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[04:44:29] <funfunctor> Hi
[04:45:19] <funfunctor> I am trying to figure out how to ensure mail to root@localhost and root@fqdn wind up going to the same alias of root: root at anotherexample dot com
[04:48:40] <pj> !alias_maps
[04:48:40] <knoba> pj: "alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The alias databases that are used for local(8) delivery. See aliases(5) for syntax details.
[04:48:45] <pj> !virtual_alias_maps
[04:48:45] <knoba> pj: "virtual_alias_maps" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).
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[04:52:57] <funfunctor> pj: thx, the configuration file points me to a "domain-wide alias map" is that the same thing as virtual_alias_maps ?
[04:53:19] <funfunctor> because I know the simple syntax for /etc/aliases which alias_maps points to
[04:53:51] <funfunctor> but does user at example1 dot com: user at example2 dot com work inside /etc/alias ?
[04:54:03] <funfunctor> *aliases
[04:56:57] <funfunctor> Because according to the man page of aliases "he name is a local address (no domain part)."
[05:01:38] <pj> !tel funfunctor getting_help
[05:01:38] <knoba> pj: Error: "tel" is not a valid command.
[05:01:45] <pj> !tell funfunctor getting_help
[05:01:45] <knoba> funfunctor: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[05:02:53] <funfunctor> yes ok, pj should I press 0 to be forwarded to talk to a human?
[05:02:59] <thumbs> pj: what's your telephone??
[05:03:49] <funfunctor> I am not asking anything about a particular configuration, I am asking about the semantics of aliases
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[05:05:06] <funfunctor> ah ok, I am looking for mydestination
[05:05:46] <pj> funfunctor: I gave you the generic answers now you seem to need additional help which requires details of your configuration.
[05:06:38] <pj> thumbs: 1-900-...
[05:06:44] <thumbs> har
[05:07:26] <funfunctor> pj: no, I just needed some motivated thought
[05:07:40] <thumbs> funfunctor: well, I believe in you. You can do it.
[05:07:49] <thumbs> is that motivated enough?
[05:08:05] <pj> funfunctor: I'm not in the business of providing motivation, you should seek that elsewhere.
[05:08:06] <funfunctor> what has happened to IRC, too much helping of ubuntu folks makes people assume everyone is a complete idiot
[05:08:10] <funfunctor> I fixed it
[05:08:20] <funfunctor> thumbs:
[05:08:30] <funfunctor> ok well whatever
[05:08:54] <thumbs> nah, we don't assume you're an idiot - we just want to see the full picture first.
[05:10:02] <funfunctor> don't worry, I solved the problem. If you are interested, its because I didn't have mydestination set properly, it needed $myhostname also, so it was thinking "not for me, forward on"
[05:10:08] <thumbs> there's many things that postconf can reveal.
[05:10:22] <thumbs> funfunctor: postconf -n would reveal that!
[05:10:27] <funfunctor> It was more just thinking about it
[05:10:48] <thumbs> funfunctor: we just want to skip the boring stuff, and get the important info to help you first.
[05:10:52] <funfunctor> assuming I know what I was looking for ;)
[05:11:01] <funfunctor> its ok, thanks guy!
[05:11:16] <thumbs> funfunctor: we know what to look for
[05:13:14] <pj> funfunctor: there are lots of different reasons as to why your alias might not have been working properly. My crystal ball is broken today, so I have to rely on your logs and config. Obviously you were able to figure it out, congratulations.
[05:14:04] <pj> Di I assume you're an idiot, no. I just won't try to take crap guesses in the dark about what your issue is. I give people the benefit of the doubt about being an idiot, usually they prove me wrong.
[05:22:29] <funfunctor> how does the mail command (from mailx) assume the domain to send to when a user is specified without the @tld ?
[05:23:13] <funfunctor> I had thought it was from mydomain
[05:24:30] <funfunctor> ah no, that makes no sense.. it must be from the network info for the NIC
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[05:35:43] <rob0> !mail
[05:35:43] <knoba> rob0: "mail" : mail(1) (also known as mailx(1) or bsd-mailx) is not a Postfix-provided command. For help with it, see its man page. More powerful, commonly available console- and CLI-based MUAs include mutt, alpine and heirloom mailx (likewise, not supported here.)
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[07:39:15] <pj> !telnet
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[09:57:30] <pokrak> Hello can somebody help me with postfixadmin vacation script?
[09:57:58] <survietamine> I don't use it
[09:58:59] <pokrak> :(
[09:59:28] <sep> don't use it either. try asking in postfixadmin mailinglist or similar ?
[09:59:49] <pokrak> i still waitinf for responds
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[10:33:21] <pj> !tell pokrak postfixadmin
[10:33:21]
<knoba> pokrak: "postfixadmin" : used for managing email accounts through a web interface (http://high5.net/postfixadmin/). Further, this channel is for issues regarding postfix. For postfixadmin support, please try the postfixadmin mailing list or the postfixadmin channel.
[10:34:25] <pj> pokrak: I used to use it, but I've since replace it with dovecot sieve that has vacation functionality.
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[10:35:55] <pokrak> when i on vacation mode emails dont recive into mailbox
[10:36:34] <pj> !tell pokrak getting_help
[10:36:34] <knoba> pokrak: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[10:36:57] <pokrak> log are clean
[10:37:23] <pj> pokrak: you mean that there are no logs or that you think they don't show anything relevant?
[10:37:47] <pokrak> i schearching everywhere a
[10:38:05] <pj> and yet you did not follow the directions in the factoid
[10:38:50] <pokrak> logs in logs are mail i deliveren and no show any errors
[10:39:14] <pj> the factoid does not ask if they show errors
[10:41:16] <pj> pokrak: English is obviously not your primary language, so I'll try to spell it out for you...
[10:41:23] <pj> !tell pokrak relevant_logs
[10:41:23] <knoba> pokrak: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.
[10:41:29] <pj> !tell pokrak showconfig
[10:41:29] <knoba> pokrak: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[10:41:39] <pj> pokrak: follow these directions, please ^^^^^^
[10:41:46] <pj> if you cannot understand something then ask.
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[10:51:13] <pj> that's a start, but I still need to see your relevant logs
[10:52:14] <pokrak> moment
[10:53:25] <survietamine> pj is patient :)
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[10:57:20] <pokrak> :)
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[11:04:59] <Zerberus> to=<username#lelumpolelum.xxx.com at autoreplay dot lelumpolelum.xxx.com> status=sent (delivered via vacation service)
[11:05:22] <pj> Zerberus: right, that's the vacation service, he wants to know why it's *not* delivering to him as well...
[11:07:01] <pj> pokrak: what is the output of: postmap -q name.surname at domain1 dot com mysql:/etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf
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[11:07:48] <pokrak> domain1 is another domain with another mailserwer
[11:08:04] <pokrak> postfix + postfixadmin are lelumpolelum
[11:08:21] <pj> oh, sorry...
[11:08:24] <pj> one min
[11:08:51] <pj> pokrak: what is the output of: postmap -q username at lelumpolelum dot xxx.com mysql:/etc/postfix/sql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf
[11:10:34] <pokrak> username#lelumpolelum.xxx.com at autoreplay dot lelumpolelum.xxx.com
[11:11:42] <pj> pokrak: ok, that alias is added by your vacation program, but it's doing it wrong, the alias actually has to be this: username#lelumpolelum.xxx.com at autoreplay dot lelumpolelum.xxx.com,username@lelumpolelum.xxx.com
[11:13:55] <pokrak> where find it to correct?
[11:19:56] <survietamine> maybe that's why people here don't use this postfixadmin feature :)
[11:20:37] <survietamine> "autoreplay" lol
[11:21:20] <pokrak> i must have autoreplay feature :/
[11:21:45] <survietamine> I thought it should be called "autoreply"
[11:21:55] <pj> survietamine: I've used it before, it works fine when properly configured.
[11:22:20] <survietamine> pj: even with courrier, I prefered the maildroprc way
[11:22:31] <pj> pokrak: it's an issue with the vacation script which is not supported here, it's not a postfix issue.
[11:23:00] <pj> survietamine: I use sieve now for that, but only because I already use sieve for other things now.
[11:23:09] <pokrak> i`m understand
[11:23:53] <pj> pokrak: you can make the change in your mysql db that I said yourself to verify that it works, but the next time you switch vacation mode on it will overwrite that change.
[11:25:43] <pokrak> address - username at lelumpolelum dot xxx.com goto - username#lelumpolelum.xxx.com at autoreplay dot lelumpolelum.xxx.com
[11:26:10] <pj> [22:11] <pj> pokrak: ok, that alias is added by your vacation program, but it's doing it wrong, the alias actually has to be this: username#lelumpolelum.xxx.com at autoreplay dot lelumpolelum.xxx.com,username@lelumpolelum.xxx.com
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[11:33:56] <pokrak> yes that`s works
[11:34:28] <pokrak> i must find where , and what change to do i auto
[11:34:37] <pokrak> do it
[11:34:54] <pj> right, you need to ask postfixadmin support for that.
[11:35:06] <pokrak> yes than`a a lot
[11:35:11] <pokrak> thanks
[11:35:15] <pj> !tell pokrak postfixadmin
[11:35:15]
<knoba> pokrak: "postfixadmin" : used for managing email accounts through a web interface (http://high5.net/postfixadmin/). Further, this channel is for issues regarding postfix. For postfixadmin support, please try the postfixadmin mailing list or the postfixadmin channel.
[11:35:38] <pj> yw
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[12:17:02] <pokrak> ok it`s working fine now :)
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[12:36:18] <pj> pokrak: glad to hear it.
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[12:55:34] <pokrak> :)
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[14:06:34] <venture37> hi
[14:07:26] <venture37> when running with restrictions such as reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_sender_domain
[14:08:20] <venture37> if DNS queries made by postfix fail due to DNS issues, is the default behaviour to let emails through
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[14:08:42] <venture37> or can the configuration be set to allow the email through?
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[14:36:26] <patdk-wk> how do you define *failure*
[14:37:03] <venture37> patdk-wk: postfix is unable to obtain a response from DNS
[14:37:22] <patdk-wk> that should NEVER happen
[14:37:36] <venture37> & if it does?
[14:37:46] <patdk-wk> you need to fix your dns server
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[14:38:16] <venture37> ok & the DNS server happens to be in a sepearate administritive domain?
[14:38:27] <patdk-wk> what are yo utalking about?
[14:38:27] <venture37> & the failure has happened
[14:38:37] <patdk-wk> postfix will use YOUR dns server for lookups
[14:38:43] <patdk-wk> dns should NEVER fail, but always respond
[14:39:19] <survietamine> maybe, have a cache-only dns server with your postfix setup
[14:39:21] <patdk-wk> it should never been in a seperate domain
[14:39:43] <patdk-wk> most always, it should be on the same server as postfix
[14:40:29] <venture37> right, but it's not so if a response is not obtained, can postfix be set to allow an email through?
[14:41:05] <patdk-wk> maybe straighten this out right
[14:41:19] <patdk-wk> you mean if it receives an NSERROR response? or no response?
[14:41:24] <patdk-wk> no response you have a broken system
[14:44:33] <venture37> I'm trying to work out why an email which shouldn't be accepted due to checks such as reject_unknown_sender_domain or reject_unknown_client_hostname and others, is
[14:44:36] <rob0> In a high-availability setup you might have DNS on a different system, but available over a local connection.
[14:45:29] <rob0> Make a pastebin as per !getting_help and it will probably be easy to answer your question.
[14:45:37] <patdk-wk> ya, I used to do that, but added local ones on postfix also, to keep down the local dns traffic of rbl cached lookups
[14:46:13] <venture37> I'm thinking perhaps postfix was unable to get an response from the configured DNS server & so permited the email
[14:46:20] <rob0> nope
[14:47:35] <venture37> !getting_help
[14:47:35] <knoba> venture37: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin
[14:48:36] <venture37> !showconfig
[14:48:36] <knoba> venture37: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old
[14:50:13] <venture37> !relevant_logs
[14:50:13] <knoba> venture37: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.
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[14:52:24] <nfi|ermes> hi all
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[14:52:53] <nfi|ermes> is possible to configure postafix to send email of a specific domain to two different servers ?
[14:52:59] <nfi|ermes> postfix
[14:53:40] <patdk-wk> yes, this is why dns was created
[14:54:09] <rob0> I think maybe the question is to duplicate the mail and send it twice?
[14:54:22] <rob0> If so there are numerous ways to do that.
[14:56:03] <nfi|ermes> i have /etc/postfix/virtual_transports
[14:56:40] <nfi|ermes> with domain.com smtp:[xx.xx.xx.xx]
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[14:57:19] <nfi|ermes> i need to send domain.com to smtp:[xx.xx.xx.xx] and smtp:[yy.yy.yy.yy]
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[15:02:50] <nfi|ermes> rob0 can u help me to find out a way to do that
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[15:06:54] <rob0> either virtual_alias_maps or recipient_bcc_maps to clone each mail into two deliveries. Beware, though, you don't want the cloned mail to bounce, because that would mean a bounce to the sender.
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[19:58:13] <djadk> Hi
[19:58:28] <djadk> I having a bit of problem with postfix
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[19:58:31] <djadk> any help
[19:58:32] <djadk> please
[20:01:05] <Zerberus> djadk: how is your cyrus-sasl configured? that part fails
[20:01:52] <Zerberus> nobody wants to wade through that verbose log
[20:03:16] <Zerberus> and don't configure SMTP AUTH on port 25, but on submission
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[20:04:25] <Zerberus> and that sasl part works outside of postfix?
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[20:04:38] <Zerberus> saslauthd and sasldb is stupid, if even possible
[20:05:34] <djadk> :Zerberus Im open to subjection
[20:05:56] <Zerberus> where are the credentials stored?
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[20:07:33] <djadk> /etc/sasldb
[20:07:56] <djadk> /var/spool/postfix/etc/sasldb
[20:10:06] <Zerberus> then configure smtpd.conf to use pwcheck_method: auxprop
[20:11:11] <djadk> Ok
[20:11:14] <djadk> thanks
[20:13:50] <djadk> Zerberus: a lot thanks working now
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