September 26, 2015 
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September 26, 2015 [00:08:43] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[00:10:45] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[00:10:51] <pepperoni> are there any resources available for understanding how pgp email works w/ the workaround.org tutorials?[00:22:47] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[00:24:11] *** junixbr has quit IRC[00:25:18] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[00:25:39] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[00:28:55] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[00:31:07] *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk[00:31:50] *** wiza has quit IRC[00:31:58] *** wiza has joined #postfix[00:36:25] *** ffiore has quit IRC[00:37:07] <buki> pgp works with MUA, not MTA[00:41:14] *** macwinner has joined #postfix[00:45:21] <pepperoni> buki: ah, ok, just trying to learn this stuff, thnx[00:46:33] <TheFatherMind> pepperoni: the problem with tutorials is that they approach the problem backwards.[00:47:05] <pepperoni> though my email provider decrypts my pgp to send normally, guess that's what i'm trying to understand[00:47:12] <TheFatherMind> I say this because you said you are "trying to learn this stuff".[00:47:31] <TheFatherMind> The point of most tutorials is to help you accomplish a task without learning or knowing anything about it.[00:47:39] <TheFatherMind> This concept is not supported here.. or by me.[00:47:58] <pepperoni> TheFatherMind: but this tutorial says it does it this way because they want you to understand[00:48:19] <thumbs> !tell pepperoni tutorial[00:48:19] <knoba> pepperoni: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[00:48:32] <TheFatherMind> ^^[00:48:33] <thumbs> no, tutorials are written for experts.[00:49:10] <TheFatherMind> You should not be attempting to use a tutorial until you have learned what the product is and how it is used.[00:49:19] <pepperoni> doesn't matter to me, in order to learn it, i take in tutorials, man pages, code, whatever resources I can find[00:49:20] <thumbs> since those folks will be able to quickly fill in the gaps that the tutorial author introduced, and even their mistakes[00:49:39] <thumbs> pepperoni: starting with tutorials if you're not an expert is a terrible idea[00:50:28] <TheFatherMind> https://www.google.com/search?num=100&lr=&safe=images&as_qdr=all&biw=1097&bih=549&q=understanding+pgp+and+how+it+is+implemented+-tutorial&oq=understanding+pgp+and+how+it+is+implemented+-tutorial[00:52:10] <pepperoni> TheFatherMind: thnx, but that completely misses what i'm looking for, i'm trying to understnad whats involved with an email host service when they implement the other end of pgp, how it's integrated into an email provider service[00:53:22] <rob0> What "other end" of PGP?[00:53:34] <pepperoni> rob0: the receiving end[00:53:40] <pepperoni> if i were the sender[00:54:09] <rob0> If you're the sender, encrypt your mail so that only the recipient can read it.[00:54:27] <pepperoni> heh, does no one understand me[00:54:35] <rob0> well, maybe[00:54:48] <rob0> but you don't understand you, in that case ;)[00:55:10] <pepperoni> there are email providers who allow you to send email to them where they decrypt it and send it from an anonymous ip to the receiver[00:55:10] <rob0> I think you're thinking there is a "passive" way to do encryption.[00:55:24] <rob0> Those providers are selling snake oil.[00:55:34] <pepperoni> rob0: no, they're not[00:55:42] <thumbs> hah[00:56:21] <rob0> Postfix has no PGP/GPG features, never did, never will. Good luck.[00:56:42] <pepperoni> rob0: see, now that's a helpful respose, thanks[00:58:09] <pepperoni> s/respose/response[00:58:39] <rob0> repose ... I'm off for a nap now, bbl[00:59:13] <TheFatherMind> If I had a quarter for every time... [15:54] <rob0> but you don't understand you, in that case ;)[01:28:17] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[01:37:30] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[01:40:06] *** armguy has quit IRC[01:53:04] *** armguy has joined #postfix[02:03:26] *** danieli has quit IRC[02:06:34] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[02:07:11] *** dstarh has quit IRC[02:22:42] <wsky> hey guys[02:22:55] <wsky> just chillin with my win 7 running postfix[02:22:58] <wsky> how are you[03:02:19] *** sexywoodenspoon has joined #postfix[03:04:02] <sexywoodenspoon> Hey all, asked over at sysadmin but figured this would be a better place to ask[03:04:11] <sexywoodenspoon> Got postfix setup and configured nicely on a server[03:05:02] <sexywoodenspoon> Added some nice virtual maps and they work but I've got a particular requirement that it's not filling (or working as expected)[03:05:04] *** err-or has joined #postfix[03:05:11] <sexywoodenspoon> See: http://pastebin.com/7AF12jSC[03:06:02] <sexywoodenspoon> The rules aren't processed in any order and the catch-all (regex) seems to be the only one that matches all the time. I'd prefer it to do named addresses first, then if no matches are found, go to the regex as a catch-all... is that possible[03:09:09] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[03:10:29] *** njbair has quit IRC[03:12:43] *** njbair has joined #postfix[03:18:24] *** magyar has quit IRC[03:20:54] *** m82labs has joined #postfix[03:22:14] *** magyar has joined #postfix[03:24:03] *** skweek has joined #postfix[03:27:12] *** skweek has quit IRC[03:35:30] *** Joost` has quit IRC[03:41:55] *** sexywoodenspoon has quit IRC[03:58:25] *** frdmn is now known as Guest94[04:01:36] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[04:22:19] *** tharkun has quit IRC[04:29:12] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[04:43:34] *** penk has joined #postfix[05:06:22] *** JanC has quit IRC[05:17:26] *** m82labs has quit IRC[05:20:35] *** JanC has joined #postfix[05:35:35] *** soosfarm has quit IRC[05:43:39] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[05:45:28] *** armguy has quit IRC[05:46:46] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[05:52:42] *** armguy has joined #postfix[05:59:37] *** soosfarm has joined #postfix[06:02:16] *** penk has quit IRC[06:03:00] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[06:04:27] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[06:11:38] *** macwinner has quit IRC[06:45:29] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[07:04:13] *** Columbo0815 has joined #postfix[07:13:40] *** shoonya has quit IRC[07:34:57] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[08:26:34] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[08:27:52] *** Batch has joined #postfix[08:28:47] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[08:33:15] *** Columbo0815 has quit IRC[10:16:33] *** sarri has quit IRC[10:18:02] *** sarri has joined #postfix[10:20:51] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[11:01:01] *** sphenxes02 has joined #postfix[11:04:19] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[11:17:04] *** infides has joined #postfix[11:36:10] *** roxlu has quit IRC[11:41:44] *** ced117 has quit IRC[11:47:55] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[11:52:11] *** Batch has quit IRC[12:16:05] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[12:27:37] *** Guest59310 has joined #postfix[12:32:58] *** bjornar_ has joined #postfix[12:33:49] *** moeyebus has quit IRC[12:35:34] *** moeyebus has joined #postfix[12:58:49] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[13:07:07] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[13:17:37] *** m82labs has joined #postfix[13:25:00] *** Guest59310 has quit IRC[13:29:46] *** Joost` has joined #postfix[13:38:16] *** jan has joined #postfix[13:38:30] *** jan is now known as Guest50458[13:38:41] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[13:39:24] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[13:42:03] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[13:48:30] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[14:09:47] *** m82labs has quit IRC[14:15:50] *** infides has quit IRC[14:42:49] *** m4rcu5 has quit IRC[14:45:35] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[14:48:40] *** m4rcu5 has joined #postfix[15:15:46] *** moldy has left #postfix[15:16:32] *** icehaunter has joined #postfix[15:20:56] *** m82labs has joined #postfix[15:36:07] *** penk has joined #postfix[15:38:40] *** Guest50458 has quit IRC[15:40:42] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[15:40:56] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[15:41:03] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[15:43:19] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[15:55:58] *** penk has quit IRC[16:27:51] *** icehaunter has quit IRC[16:29:35] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[16:38:17] *** PHPanos has joined #postfix[16:38:24] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[16:54:53] *** ploopkazoo has quit IRC[17:08:30] *** PHPanos has quit IRC[17:14:03] *** Slackology has quit IRC[17:23:42] *** rsx has joined #postfix[17:26:14] *** m82labs has quit IRC[17:26:35] *** rsx has quit IRC[17:26:58] *** ploopkazoo has joined #postfix[17:30:08] *** Slackology has joined #postfix[17:31:37] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[17:40:36] *** sarri has quit IRC[17:41:52] *** sarri has joined #postfix[17:46:22] *** njbair has left #postfix[17:46:47] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[17:53:21] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[17:54:07] *** noxid has quit IRC[18:15:47] *** bolt has quit IRC[18:18:01] *** bolt has joined #postfix[18:38:59] *** thowe has joined #postfix[18:46:00] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[18:48:00] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[18:49:25] *** noxid has joined #postfix[19:26:44] *** sputnik has quit IRC[19:26:59] *** roxlu has quit IRC[19:50:14] *** sputnik has joined #postfix[19:51:03] *** tacco has quit IRC[19:57:44] *** err-or has quit IRC[19:58:01] *** err-or has joined #postfix[20:02:52] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[20:04:14] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[20:20:18] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[20:22:03] *** Chill_Surf has joined #postfix[20:23:11] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[20:29:48] <thowe> Not strictly a postfix question, but I suspect someone here will know... If I want per-user quarantine with amavisd-new, I need a policy configured for each user, correct?[20:30:13] <thowe> since the policy appears to be the only place the location is specified...[20:34:06] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[20:36:00] <thowe> hm, even then the quarantine table doesn't seem to offer any user-specific indicator...[20:36:17] <thowe> guess a directory would need to be used[20:38:11] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[20:40:55] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[20:42:24] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[20:51:30] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[20:57:30] *** ag4ve has joined #postfix[20:59:49] *** Taurith has joined #postfix[20:59:57] *** Xenoth is now known as Guest94669[21:00:25] *** Taurith is now known as Xenoth[21:01:33] *** Guest94669 has quit IRC[21:12:02] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[21:15:38] *** OnkelTem has quit IRC[21:17:29] *** OnkelTem has joined #postfix[21:18:51] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[21:21:32] *** Fleurety has quit IRC[21:23:28] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[21:25:11] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[21:30:07] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[21:33:45] *** rrman has quit IRC[21:34:10] *** ag4ve has quit IRC[21:35:33] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:40:00] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[21:42:10] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[21:53:53] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[22:07:41] *** arinov__ has joined #postfix[22:10:58] *** arinov_ has quit IRC[22:17:40] *** roxlu has quit IRC[22:22:42] *** ghostlines has joined #postfix[22:37:32] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[22:39:03] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[22:44:20] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[22:45:56] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[22:46:53] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[22:52:11] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[22:52:29] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[22:53:51] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[22:59:59] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[23:05:54] *** ghostlines has quit IRC[23:12:12] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[23:14:02] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[23:21:53] *** phunyguy has quit IRC[23:25:19] *** phunyguy has joined #postfix[23:36:05] *** phunyguy has quit IRC