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postconf -h here: http://pastebin.com/SKgcuZvw[11:27:11] <aelskling> The problem is, that some of my local users are on a differnet server[11:27:39] <Tuxick> then they're not local :)[11:28:00] <aelskling> indeed :)[11:28:27] <aelskling> I thought I can mailroute them via transport_maps to the other server[11:31:54] <Tuxick> uhm submission is for sending[11:31:56] <Tuxick> i don't get it[11:32:59] <aelskling> yes, submission takes the mail from the authenticated client[11:35:11] <aelskling> my plan is, depending of the recipients adress, submission forwards the mail to the other server if the adress is in transport_maps[11:36:47] <aelskling> this is a kolab groupware server and I want to run some of our production adresses on it for testing purposes[11:48:56] *** rsx has joined #postfix[11:59:43] *** fornax has quit IRC[11:59:44] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[12:02:24] *** Mizar has left #postfix[12:07:56] *** Thaalos has joined #postfix[12:09:51] *** Thaalos has quit IRC[12:09:51] *** 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*** penk has joined #postfix[17:01:41] *** ffiore has quit IRC[17:04:14] *** JanC has quit IRC[17:04:44] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[17:16:27] *** Rico has joined #postfix[17:16:30] <Rico> hello[17:17:16] <Rico> small question about postfix : I have a postfix server rlaying outgoing mails to a.domain.com (relayhost=a.domain.com)[17:17:57] *** JanC has joined #postfix[17:18:03] <Rico> I want to use another relay for some senders. So I've added : sender_dependent_default_transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_dependent_default_transport_maps at the end of my main.fr, and corresponding transports in master.cf[17:18:45] <Rico> but after postfix reload (or even restart), mails from specified addresses in /etc/postfix/sender_dependent_default_transport_maps are still send to a.domain.com, not to the specific transport[17:18:52] <Rico> any idea why ?[17:20:08] <Rico> postfix version 2.6.6[17:20:19] <patdk-wk> based on not following instructions? no idea[17:20:23] <patdk-wk> !tell rico getting_help[17:20:23] <knoba> rico: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[17:20:41] <Rico> !pastebin[17:20:42] <knoba> Rico: "pastebin" : (#1) see !paste, or (#2) a pastebin site lets you easily share logs and configuration. Examples are dpaste.org, fpaste.org, or pastebin.ca. Please avoid ad-supported sites such as pastebin.com if possible.[17:21:09] <Rico> !relevant_logs[17:21:09] <knoba> Rico: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[17:21:20] <Rico> !showconfig[17:21:20] <knoba> Rico: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[17:21:49] <Rico> !showconfig_old[17:21:49] <knoba> Rico: "showconfig_old" : for versions of postfix < 2.9, pastebin postconf -n and the contents of master.cf with comments removed[17:25:09] <Rico> here's the pastebin : https://paste.fedoraproject.org/271072/14431083/[17:27:34] <patdk-wk> I thought you said to set the sender_dependent_default_transport_maps option[17:27:47] <patdk-wk> it doesn't exist in your pastebin[17:28:23] *** camroncade has joined #postfix[17:28:28] <Rico> strange, it is in my main.cf...[17:28:49] <Rico> mmh[17:28:53] <Rico> postfix >2.7[17:29:10] <patdk-wk> dunno why your using that option though[17:29:18] <patdk-wk> vs sender_dependent_transport_maps[17:29:24] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[17:29:46] <Rico> is sender_dependent_transport_maps compatible with 2.6 ?[17:29:51] <Rico> I'll try[17:29:57] <patdk-wk> I believe I was using it in 2.3[17:31:03] <Rico> still don't have it in postconf -n[17:32:54] <patdk-wk> I'm stupied :)[17:33:01] <patdk-wk> it's sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[17:33:23] *** fornax has joined #postfix[17:33:29] *** lrea has left #postfix[17:34:32] <Rico> patdk-wk: ok, have it now, thanks[17:34:34] <Rico> let's try...[17:35:54] <Rico> looks good, just a firewall problem[17:35:55] <Rico> thanks a lot[17:43:22] *** izzol has joined #postfix[17:43:24] <izzol> hello[17:46:09] *** camroncade has quit IRC[17:47:52] <Rico> patdk-wk: strange, postfix tries to relay mail to host "aws-mail" (name of my service in master.cf)[17:48:45] <lunaphyte> do note that 2.6 is too old to be using. it was abandoned over 2 years ago[17:50:17] <Rico> lunaphyte: yes I know, but latest in centos6 repos[17:50:20] <Rico> so I keep it for now[17:50:25] <lunaphyte> that does not make it ok[17:50:25] <Rico> don't have time to rebuild[17:50:48] <Rico> I know[17:50:58] <Rico> but I guess it will be sufficient for what I need to do[17:51:07] <lunaphyte> if the centos community thinks it is cool to use old abandoned software, then you should be asking them to be the ones who donate their time to help with it[17:51:29] *** rsx has joined #postfix[17:51:31] <Rico> don't have time for that[17:51:36] <lunaphyte> it is not fair to ask the postfix community to support software when it is someone else who is suggesting you use it[17:51:47] <lunaphyte> you don't have time for that?[17:51:59] <lunaphyte> your time is precious and valuable, but ours is not?[17:52:09] <Rico> lunaphyte: what's your problem ?[17:52:43] <Rico> did I say something agressive to you ?[17:53:07] <lunaphyte> i wasn't receptive to the "i don't have time for that" comment[17:53:11] <Rico> sorry, I don't want to fight (don't have time for that ;) )[17:53:33] <lunaphyte> no, there is no "fighting" that is going to occur[17:53:35] <Rico> I don't have time to "be the ones who donate their time to help with it"[17:53:39] *** ffiore has quit IRC[17:54:09] <patdk-wk> they wouldn't even if you attempted to[17:54:25] <lunaphyte> anyway, there's really no reason someone using centos can't run a reasonably current release. there are numerous resources available from which current software can be obtained, in various formats[17:54:27] <Rico> and at this time, I don't have time to rebuild the latest postfix version on each of my servers[17:54:48] <patdk-wk> I'm running postfix 2.11 on my rhel6 server[17:54:56] <Rico> I would be happy to di it if I could[17:54:58] <Rico> but I can't[17:55:08] <patdk-wk> I wasn't till last week[17:55:19] <patdk-wk> some new users complaining about spam[17:55:23] <patdk-wk> where the old users wanted the spam[17:55:41] <patdk-wk> had to finally get postscreen up and running[17:55:50] <patdk-wk> and upgrade to rhel7 is not on the table yet[17:55:50] <thumbs> lunaphyte: FWIW, I think CentOS is doing the backporting game, and keeping the old version number.[17:56:08] <lunaphyte> thumbs: yeah, i know. that's almost worse, in some ways[17:56:08] <patdk-wk> thumbs, centos doesn't do anything, except copy from rhel[17:56:37] <thumbs> patdk-wk: ok, RHEL then[17:56:38] <Rico> lunaphyte: how long would it take to you to upgrade, test and validate latest postfix version on about 100 servers, going from centos 5 to centos 6, debian, ...[17:56:54] <lunaphyte> probably a few hours[17:57:20] <Rico> so I guess you're far more efficient than me[17:57:25] <Rico> nvermind...[17:57:44] <Rico> can anybody help me with my unsupported postfix 2.6 problem ?[17:58:07] <patdk-wk> what problem?[17:58:10] * patdk-wk sees no problem[17:58:20] <Rico> postfix tries to relay mail to host "aws-mail" (name of my service in master.cf)[17:58:29] *** gamba47 has quit 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see where[18:06:37] <Rico> mmh[18:06:40] <Rico> maybe the ":"[18:07:33] *** Guest16431 has joined #postfix[18:07:33] <patdk-wk> oh, that won't work[18:07:39] <patdk-wk> I don't think[18:08:00] <Rico> why wouldn't it ?[18:08:25] <patdk-wk> that is a transport, not a relayhost[18:08:46] <Rico> mmh[18:09:02] <Rico> so I should use something like sender_dependent_transport_maps[18:09:20] <patdk-wk> ya, that is what you where using[18:09:24] <patdk-wk> but it needs 2.7+[18:09:48] <Rico> ok[18:10:01] <Rico> so I guess I'll have to upgrade ( o/ lunaphyte )[18:10:01] <Rico> ;)[18:10:24] <patdk-wk> didn't realize you where doing it via transport[18:11:06] *** penk_ has joined #postfix[18:11:06] <Rico> I'm doing it via master.cf service[18:13:17] <patdk-wk> yes, transports[18:14:00] <patdk-wk> relay, smtp, lmtp, error, bounce, .... are some of the preconfigured ones[18:14:03] <patdk-wk> you added aws ones[18:14:07] <Rico> ok[18:14:21] *** penk has quit IRC[18:14:51] *** skweek has quit 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Good Luck![19:27:46] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[19:41:48] *** depate has quit IRC[19:48:19] *** skweek has joined #postfix[20:03:04] *** depate has joined #postfix[20:03:17] *** skweek has quit IRC[20:19:48] *** skweek has joined #postfix[20:24:18] *** dstarh has quit IRC[20:42:38] *** josephholsten has joined #postfix[21:09:32] *** gehidore has quit IRC[21:14:54] *** skweek has quit IRC[21:15:19] *** OnkelTem has quit IRC[21:16:08] *** Fab_ has joined #postfix[21:16:31] *** Fab_ is now known as Guest36319[21:16:53] *** OnkelTem has joined #postfix[21:17:35] *** Guest36319 has quit IRC[21:18:52] *** gehidore has joined #postfix[21:19:17] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[21:19:29] *** gehidore has quit IRC[21:20:09] *** rsx has quit IRC[21:20:13] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[21:21:15] *** gehidore has joined #postfix[21:21:39] *** Fabien has joined #postfix[21:23:39] *** Fabien has quit IRC[21:26:17] *** fafadu40 has joined #postfix[21:28:07] *** fafadu40 has left #postfix[21:28:55] *** fafadu40 has joined #postfix[21:29:03] <fafadu40> hi[21:29:31] <fafadu40> i'm getting a : Sep 24 21:13:13 localhost postfix/smtp[9373]: F0D1583AB: to=<savy.fab at gmail dot com>, relay=none, delay=0.09, delays=0.04/0.05/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp.orange.fr type=MX: Host not found, try again)[21:29:36] <fafadu40> can you help me ?[21:30:01] <thumbs> fafadu40: is this a chroot?[21:30:35] <fafadu40> I know that postfix runs in chroot by itself, but the Ubuntu OS is running chrooted yes[21:30:44] <thumbs> fafadu40: no, it does not, by default.[21:30:45] *** depate has quit IRC[21:31:58] <fafadu40> postfix is by default in /var/spool, isn't it ?[21:32:21] <thumbs> !tell fafadu40 chroot[21:32:21] <knoba> fafadu40: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf, if not n , means that the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot, see !debug , !queue_directory and files in the examples/chroot-setup subdirectory of the Postfix source archive which show examples of a Postfix chroot environment on a variety of systems[21:33:15] <thumbs> fafadu40: your DNS resolution is broken, possibly because of your broken chroot with your debian package[21:33:52] <thumbs> fafadu40: you should disable it first[21:35:12] <fafadu40> ok i'm gonna try that[21:36:47] *** Ioyrie has joined #postfix[21:37:26] <fafadu40> so I have to write an 'n' instead of the '-' ??[21:37:45] *** skweek has joined #postfix[21:41:24] <fafadu40> ok, I said postfix not to chroot the smtp parts. I tried sending another mail and i'm getting : Sep 24 21:38:49 localhost postfix/pickup[9557]: 5BB9583B2: uid=5000 from=<admin> Sep 24 21:38:49 localhost postfix/cleanup[9562]: 5BB9583B2: message-id=<20150924193849.5BB9583B2@serveur>[21:41:38] <fafadu40> did it sent the mail ?[21:45:29] <lunaphyte> consult the subsequent log entries[21:46:42] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[21:49:12] <fafadu40> how does postfix say HELO to the smtp servers ?[21:50:11] <patdk-wk> a slap in the face?[21:50:44] <fafadu40> han han.. no I mean when it connects through telnet[21:50:58] <patdk-wk> postfix doesn't use telnet[21:51:03] <patdk-wk> telnet is a totally different protocol[21:51:38] <thumbs> telnet isn't a protocol, technically[21:51:49] <patdk-wk> it is[21:51:58] <patdk-wk> it has all kinds of command and term support[21:52:03] <fafadu40> all right. but does it uses the same way to communicate (HELO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO..)[21:52:15] <patdk-wk> read the rfc?[21:52:21] <patdk-wk> rfc822 if you want the orig[21:52:33] <patdk-wk> or is it in rfc821?[21:53:25] <fafadu40> (it's sooooooo long)[21:54:32] <fafadu40> but first pages gave me what I did search for[21:54:39] <fafadu40> it uses the same commands[21:54:55] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[21:55:13] <fafadu40> but does Postfix tell his ip with the HELO or just his hostname ?[21:55:26] <patdk-wk> it's all in that document[21:55:36] <patdk-wk> !hostname[21:55:37] <knoba> patdk-wk: Error: "hostname" is not a valid command.[21:55:42] <patdk-wk> !myhostname[21:55:42] <knoba> patdk-wk: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.[21:55:53] <patdk-wk> !helo[21:55:53] <knoba> patdk-wk: "helo" : The domain name given in the HELO or EHLO command MUST be either a host name that is resolvable to an DNS Resource Record address, or an IP address literal.[21:57:11] <fafadu40> ok[21:59:50] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:00:04] <fafadu40> does postfix log the communication with the smtp server somewhere ??[22:01:27] <rob0> okay, what is it that you REALLY want to know?[22:02:24] <fafadu40> if my mail was accepted my the relayserver i use[22:02:48] <fafadu40> because I just have : Sep 24 22:00:27 localhost postfix/pickup[9774]: 2F29883B6: uid=5000 from=<admin> Sep 24 22:00:27 localhost postfix/cleanup[9782]: 2F29883B6: message-id=<20150924200027.2F29883B6 at fabien dot cf>[22:03:02] <fafadu40> and nothing on my other mail service[22:03:07] <fafadu40> (which is gmail)[22:04:30] <rob0> is there no postfix/smtp log for 2F29883B6?[22:04:43] <rob0> and for heaven's sake, this is 2015,[22:05:34] <fafadu40> and..?[22:05:51] <rob0> postconf.5.html#enable_long_queue_ids[22:06:02] <fafadu40> ok[22:06:33] <rob0> also,[22:06:40] <rob0> !tell fafadu40 basic[22:06:40] <knoba> fafadu40: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[22:06:53] <fafadu40> but i already went there :)[22:06:59] <rob0> your hostname is "localhost"[22:07:52] <lunaphyte> seriously! we're only 27 days away from hoverboards![22:07:59] <fafadu40> true :( I thought i did changed that[22:08:22] *** arinov__ has joined #postfix[22:11:02] *** arinov_ has quit IRC[22:16:18] *** fafadu40 has quit IRC[22:26:41] *** afics has joined #postfix[22:29:11] *** orbifx has joined #postfix[22:42:24] <orbifx> is there a programmatical way to control postfix?[22:42:39] <orbifx> check if values are set or set them to something new?[22:42:40] <lunaphyte> define "control"[22:42:49] <lunaphyte> what values?[22:43:04] <orbifx> configuration values, the whole lot really[22:43:17] <lunaphyte> man 1 postconf[22:43:25] <orbifx> i basically want to install postfix with my package manager, and then have my program run and control postfix[22:43:27] <rob0> and postfix(1)[22:44:04] <orbifx> ok, to specify more, cause i know about postconf: any libraries[22:44:11] <lunaphyte> no[22:44:13] <orbifx> not that postconf won't work[22:44:25] <orbifx> thanks lunaphyte[22:45:06] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[23:05:06] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[23:12:43] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[23:13:08] *** penk has quit IRC[23:22:20] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[23:31:02] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[23:34:31] *** dstarh has quit IRC[23:42:33] *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk[23:49:41] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[23:49:43] <roxlu> hi![23:50:12] <roxlu> I'm making some changes to my postfix config main.cf, but when I type postfix reload, and then check the changes using postconf -d, I'm not seeing my changed values[23:50:17] <roxlu> Am I doing something wrong?[23:50:23] <thumbs> roxlu: yes. You're using -d[23:50:35] <thumbs> roxlu: and you didn't read what -d is doing.[23:50:40] <rob0> Look up what "-d" means.[23:50:58] <thumbs> rob0: hey, he's MINE![23:50:59] <roxlu> ah ... :#[23:51:44] * roxlu facepalm[23:52:33] <lunaphyte> it's interesting, we get this every so often. is there some blog telling people -d shows customized settings?[23:52:58] <thumbs> lunaphyte: no, no, it must be a howto / tutorial[23:53:04] <roxlu> then one other question ... someone is trying to brute force a login. I read that I can block an IP by using a blacklist, and add something like: check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/blacklist, to smtpd_recipient_restrictions, but that doesn't seem towork :$[23:53:21] <lunaphyte> !tell roxlu getting_help[23:53:21] <knoba> roxlu: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin