September 23, 2015 
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September 23, 2015 [00:02:33] *** ffiore has quit IRC[00:04:25] *** tmberg has quit IRC[00:05:32] *** T3 has joined #postfix[00:06:22] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[00:08:11] *** WakiMiko has quit IRC[00:09:28] <T3> quick question: the emails on postfix queue, where are they from the OS point of view? disk or RAM?[00:09:31] *** WakiMiko has joined #postfix[00:10:09] <T3> if disk, is there a directive where I see/set the path?[00:10:14] *** sparr has quit IRC[00:11:03] *** sparr has joined #postfix[00:12:17] *** _Nomad_ has quit IRC[00:14:00] <T3> ok, /var/spool/postfix[00:14:05] <T3> sorry about the silly question :)[00:14:46] *** chrisq1 has joined #postfix[00:14:52] *** chrisq has quit IRC[00:15:12] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[00:15:13] *** HeavyMetal has quit IRC[00:15:50] *** HeavyMetal has joined #postfix[00:15:50] *** HeavyMetal has joined #postfix[00:16:33] *** ghoti has quit IRC[00:16:41] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[00:18:24] *** Slackology has quit IRC[00:19:13] *** bakhtiya has quit IRC[00:20:14] *** bakhtiya has joined #postfix[00:21:27] *** Dessa has quit IRC[00:21:57] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[00:22:10] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[00:22:14] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[00:22:29] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[00:23:58] *** Dessa has joined #postfix[00:25:40] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[00:26:56] *** rednul has quit IRC[00:26:56] *** Bish has quit IRC[00:27:40] *** cite has quit IRC[00:27:40] *** tacco has quit IRC[00:27:45] *** Bish_ has joined #postfix[00:27:46] *** tacco has joined #postfix[00:27:46] *** cite has joined #postfix[00:27:57] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[00:29:04] *** rednul has joined #postfix[00:34:39] *** fornax has joined #postfix[00:50:41] *** ffiore has quit IRC[00:55:27] *** doppo has quit IRC[00:59:32] *** fatalhalt has quit IRC[01:01:03] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[01:01:12] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[01:02:04] *** doppo has joined #postfix[01:08:50] *** mikecmpbll has quit IRC[01:17:53] *** junixbr has quit IRC[01:29:03] *** fornax has quit IRC[01:37:49] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[01:45:03] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[01:47:10] *** magyar has quit IRC[01:47:29] *** magyar has joined #postfix[01:47:29] *** magyar has joined #postfix[01:47:40] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[01:55:36] *** bjornar_ has quit IRC[02:16:28] *** Slackology has joined #postfix[02:18:32] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[02:21:10] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[02:34:05] *** T3 has quit IRC[02:34:22] *** namyzarc has joined #postfix[02:34:34] *** skweek has joined #postfix[02:34:53] *** namyzarc has quit IRC[02:59:13] *** abrotman has joined #postfix[02:59:59] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[03:00:18] <abrotman> Using postscreen, can this be shared between two systems? Something like two MXes share one set of reputation?[03:02:08] <lunaphyte> sure. see postscreen_readme[03:02:49] <abrotman> was looking at the online man page .. didn't seem obvious, perhaps Imissed the option[03:03:56] <lunaphyte> did you read postscreen_readme?[03:04:16] <abrotman> I don't have the software installed, was just doing research[03:04:28] <abrotman> http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html That's what I was reading[03:05:00] <abrotman> oh, found at the bottom[03:17:55] *** penk has joined #postfix[03:30:51] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[03:35:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[03:36:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[04:03:58] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[04:09:39] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[04:09:58] *** pankid has quit IRC[04:10:27] *** pankid has joined #postfix[04:14:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[04:19:10] *** Batch_ has joined #postfix[04:29:32] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[04:47:05] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[04:49:29] *** yosafbridge has joined #postfix[04:54:18] *** Batch_ has quit IRC[04:54:42] *** Cerise has quit IRC[04:55:36] *** Tourist has quit IRC[04:57:52] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[04:57:52] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[05:11:10] *** jwing has quit IRC[05:17:23] *** Motoko has quit IRC[05:23:30] *** jwing has joined #postfix[05:23:30] *** jwing has joined #postfix[05:24:14] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[05:28:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[05:30:16] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[05:34:29] *** internat has quit IRC[05:35:05] *** internat has joined #postfix[05:35:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[05:48:55] *** BoomerBile has joined #postfix[06:00:22] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[06:10:58] *** BoomerBile has quit IRC[06:24:25] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[06:25:58] *** penk has quit IRC[06:28:10] *** zapata has quit IRC[06:30:31] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[06:30:45] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[06:31:32] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[06:36:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[06:42:59] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[06:46:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[07:29:30] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[07:33:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[07:37:23] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[07:41:20] *** zapata has joined #postfix[07:49:32] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[07:57:04] *** Tyklol is now known as Tykling[08:08:13] *** _Nomad_ has joined #postfix[08:35:17] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[08:38:12] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[08:46:16] *** _Nomad_ has quit IRC[08:46:28] *** _Nomad_ has joined #postfix[08:48:37] *** SupaYoshi has quit IRC[08:49:52] *** SupaYoshi has joined #postfix[08:50:38] *** Mizar has joined #postfix[08:51:37] *** Mizar has left #postfix[08:53:12] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[09:01:42] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[09:04:48] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[09:07:14] *** lrea has joined #postfix[09:07:35] *** cuqa_ has quit IRC[09:07:35] *** cuqa_ has joined #postfix[09:17:15] *** Darcidride has joined #postfix[09:19:32] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[09:23:05] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[09:26:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[09:33:27] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[09:43:44] *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo[10:07:51] *** _Nomad_ has quit IRC[10:08:23] *** irctc923 has joined #postfix[10:09:41] *** _Nomad_ has joined #postfix[10:11:08] *** OnkelTem has quit IRC[10:12:47] *** OnkelTem has joined #postfix[10:17:16] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[10:20:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[10:45:43] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[10:45:49] *** davlefouAMD has joined #postfix[10:46:46] *** brgtt has joined #postfix[10:47:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[10:47:42] <brgtt> hi.. how do I know what is the folder of my hold queue?[10:50:03] *** fornax has joined #postfix[10:50:37] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[10:50:44] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[10:54:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[10:56:07] <brgtt> hi.. how do I know what is the folder of my hold queue?[10:56:12] <brgtt> Urgent sorry :([10:57:13] <Tuxick> normally /var/spool/postfix/[10:57:20] <Tuxick> but depends on your setup[10:58:58] <brgtt> Tulah: thanks[10:59:35] <brgtt> I have nothing about hold queue on main or master .cf[10:59:45] <DawnFantasy> try postconf | grep queue_directory[10:59:47] <brgtt> Is the same folder as all the other queues?[11:00:02] <brgtt> I know I my queues are on /var/spool/postfix[11:00:40] <brgtt> var/spoool/postfix is running on RAM for me. May I change just the hold queue to another folder? I need to move it to hard disk[11:01:19] <brgtt> if I can move hold queue to a folder on hard disk I would solve my problem with postsuper -h ALL deferred[11:03:07] <survietamine> I don't know if making a symlink...[11:04:15] <brgtt> so I would create a symlink from var/spoool/postfix/hold to hard drive then postsuper -h ALL deferred[11:04:22] <brgtt> would be great if it works :)[11:04:51] <brgtt> did anyone here have ever done this?[11:05:00] <survietamine> no, I didn't do that[11:05:06] <brgtt> ahahah[11:05:07] <survietamine> because I don't often hold mails[11:05:13] <brgtt> me neither[11:06:18] <survietamine> does putting queue_directory into ram faster a lot your mail service?[11:06:38] <brgtt> a lot[11:06:46] <Tuxick> really?[11:06:51] <brgtt> we have 21 MTAs here all running on 32G RAM[11:06:56] <Tuxick> your queues that active?[11:06:57] <brgtt> thats everything I can say =X[11:07:46] <survietamine> so, you have to be sure that your servers won't never shutdown "brutally"?[11:08:13] <brgtt> yes we have more RAM reserved to the system[11:14:56] <Tuxick> i run into problems with the remote servers way before i get queue performance problems[11:15:04] <Tuxick> even when i have > 20k mails in queue[11:15:07] <Tuxick> so i don't get it[11:22:11] *** fornax has quit IRC[11:31:50] *** fornax has joined #postfix[11:32:03] *** enclyp has joined #postfix[11:42:43] *** fornax has quit IRC[11:51:07] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[11:51:27] *** fornax has joined #postfix[11:53:55] *** moijk_ has quit IRC[11:58:20] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[12:01:44] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[12:03:11] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[12:05:36] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[12:06:09] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[12:08:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[12:27:09] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[12:27:19] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[12:28:16] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[12:29:46] <fling> How to restrict envelope sender usage?[12:32:41] <fling> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_sender_login_mismatch …[12:32:57] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[12:37:26] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[12:37:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[12:42:49] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[12:45:41] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[12:45:57] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[12:47:28] *** arinov_ has quit IRC[12:48:23] *** arinov has joined #postfix[12:48:55] *** davlefouAMD has quit IRC[12:54:33] <fling> Ok, it works: Sep 23 16:53:52 mail postfix/smtpd[13446]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[106.5.196.47]: 553 5.7.1 <agmu_ped2 at barnaul dot zdravalt.ru>: Sender address rejected: not owned by user agmu_ped2 at barnaul dot zdravalt.ru; from=<agmu_ped2 at barnaul dot zdravalt.ru> to=<manmanzhujuan at sohu dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<bpjdqnzvp>[12:54:53] <fling> But how to REDIRECT instead of rejecting? :P[12:59:09] *** arinov has quit IRC[12:59:34] *** arinov has joined #postfix[12:59:57] *** irctc923 has quit IRC[13:06:32] <survietamine> I think you cannot because it's named "reject_..."[13:06:45] <survietamine> not "check_..."[13:07:18] <survietamine> why do you want to redirect these messages?[13:32:30] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[13:37:36] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[13:41:11] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[13:57:10] *** brgtt has quit IRC[14:04:23] *** abrotman has left #postfix[14:07:27] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:10:54] *** bakhtiya has quit IRC[14:21:26] *** sarri has quit IRC[14:22:57] *** irctc232 has joined #postfix[14:22:58] *** sarri has joined #postfix[14:24:27] <Tuxick> ukrainian criminal literally flooding server with spam for meetme-rightnow.com[14:24:44] <Tuxick> getting > 10 per minute[14:25:01] *** takner has joined #postfix[14:26:01] <DominikB> Tuxick, welcome to the club[14:26:52] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[14:28:20] <Tuxick> :)[14:28:36] <Tuxick> fail2ban working very hard[14:28:43] <takner> ola[14:28:55] <DominikB> Tuxick, we ended up null route a lot of ip ranges[14:30:36] <takner> Anyone available for a bit of advice?[14:30:59] <DominikB> takner, try and ask[14:31:16] <Tuxick> ell the only real solution nullrouting all of russia and .ua[14:31:33] <Tuxick> until those idiots get arrested[14:31:52] <DominikB> Tuxick, yep thats what i request from my managment to do so[14:32:10] <Tuxick> well i mean the main connections[14:32:18] <Tuxick> botnets have hosts all over the world[14:32:37] <Tuxick> you need to cut off the criminals behind it[14:33:35] <Tuxick> all peering with russia :)[14:35:07] <takner> Cheers DominikB[14:35:12] <takner> In postfix is there a way to expand distribution group DISTRIBUTION_LIST at example dot com (hosted outside my control on a seperate server) into it's individual components for delivery (e.g. USER2 at example dot com, USER1 at example dot com) to virtual mailboxes?[14:35:31] <takner> I'm using a catchall with dbmail and it's not exactly behaving the way I'd like it to[14:39:20] <Tuxick> tips for a good uribl?[14:39:38] <Tuxick> it's a bit strange i had to add these domains myself[14:40:06] <Tuxick> realhookuped-girl.com is the other one, same criminal[14:45:57] *** irctc232 has quit IRC[14:47:02] *** dstarh has quit IRC[14:50:55] *** penk has joined #postfix[14:51:31] *** enclyp has quit IRC[14:51:56] <lunaphyte> takner: using catchalls is a huge no no. don't do it[14:53:08] <DominikB> takner, sry no clue atm[14:54:06] *** fornax has quit IRC[15:05:13] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[15:21:27] *** stevej has joined #postfix[15:21:27] *** stevej has joined #postfix[15:22:07] *** stevej has left #postfix[15:34:02] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[15:38:48] *** equilibriumuk has quit IRC[15:39:19] *** equilibriumuk has joined #postfix[15:43:46] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[15:45:22] *** fornax has joined #postfix[15:47:04] *** penk has quit IRC[16:08:33] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[16:10:25] *** stan_man_can has joined #postfix[16:11:12] <stan_man_can> Hi all. Running RHEL6. Postfix came installed. When I try to the service, I get [postfix: fatal: file /etc/postfix/main.cf: parameter mail_owner: unknown user name value: postfix][16:11:47] <lunaphyte> !tell stan_man_can showconfig[16:11:47] <knoba> stan_man_can: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[16:11:52] <lunaphyte> stan_man_can: pastebin that[16:12:47] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: "Invalid option -- 'f'[16:12:58] <lunaphyte> uh oh[16:13:09] <lunaphyte> postconf mail_version[16:13:20] <stan_man_can> 2.6.6[16:13:28] <lunaphyte> that's way too old[16:13:33] <lunaphyte> anyway, see the factoid[16:13:49] <stan_man_can> !showconfig_old[16:13:49] <knoba> stan_man_can: "showconfig_old" : for versions of postfix < 2.9, pastebin postconf -n and the contents of master.cf with comments removed[16:15:05] *** FinboySlick has joined #postfix[16:15:22] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: postconf -n https://paste.fedoraproject.org/270524/17705144/[16:16:02] <takner> Ok. How about I tackle it from a different point of view. How does postfix know when to send mails our indivually and when to send it out as one mail with a big TO: list?[16:16:13] <takner> Essentially that's the functionality I'm looking to force[16:17:02] *** fornax has quit IRC[16:17:26] *** fornax has joined #postfix[16:17:27] *** fornax has quit IRC[16:17:51] *** fornax has joined #postfix[16:20:10] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: main.cf https://paste.fedoraproject.org/270527/44301799/[16:21:10] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: theres an entry for postfix in /etc/aliases[16:21:32] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: that says postfix: root[16:21:49] <lunaphyte> main.cf?[16:22:01] <lunaphyte> i think maybe you misread the factoid[16:22:32] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: yup sure did one sec[16:23:30] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: master.cf https://paste.fedoraproject.org/270529/01820514/[16:24:13] <lunaphyte> getent passwd postfix[16:24:16] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: I should probably add, this is JUST going to be used to send emails from the system to a few people in our org as system report types of things. so a script can notify us via email[16:24:42] <lunaphyte> wait, that's all this is? you already have a mail server?[16:24:49] <stan_man_can> #getent passwd postfix[16:24:49] <stan_man_can> #[16:25:08] * Tuxick sighs[16:25:16] <stan_man_can> yeah we already have our orgs email set up and everything I'm just trying to get postfix setup so I can use mail[16:25:19] <lunaphyte> well, that's your problem, but if this is just to send notification email, you don't need [or want] postfix for that[16:25:25] <stan_man_can> as in, /etc/mail[16:25:28] <lunaphyte> you use a null client for that[16:25:35] <lunaphyte> i recommend msmtp[16:25:37] <stan_man_can> /bin/mail **[16:26:51] *** penk has joined #postfix[16:47:41] *** juke has joined #postfix[16:47:57] *** juke has left #postfix[16:54:38] *** JanC has quit IRC[16:57:18] *** jaguar-es is now known as jaggz-s[17:00:38] <stan_man_can> lunaphyte: have a dependency error setting up msmtp[17:01:14] <stan_man_can> As for postfix, is there anythign _wrong_ with using it for this? from what I can tell I think I might just need to create a 'postfix' user but I can't find anywhere what type of permissions it should have or anything[17:04:37] <lunaphyte> yes, there is something wrong with it. it is the wrong tool for the job[17:04:41] <lunaphyte> it is unnecessary overkill[17:05:12] <lunaphyte> all you need to do is submit mail for delivery. postfix is mail server/mail routing software. it would be silly to have to install mail server software just to simply send an email[17:05:27] *** knoba has quit IRC[17:05:27] *** knoba` has joined #postfix[17:05:57] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[17:07:13] *** emiliano_ has joined #postfix[17:08:32] *** gamba47 has quit IRC[17:08:45] *** emiliano_ has quit IRC[17:09:00] *** JanC has joined #postfix[17:09:12] *** emiliano_ has joined #postfix[17:11:58] *** emiliano_ has quit IRC[17:12:11] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[17:13:55] *** stan_man_can has quit IRC[17:14:17] *** fornax has quit IRC[17:18:21] *** fornax has joined #postfix[17:21:21] *** knoba` has quit IRC[17:21:28] *** knoba has joined #postfix[17:36:02] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[17:40:15] *** fornax has quit IRC[17:43:30] <ghoti> So... I've got a bunch of internal servers who have been delivering daily notices of one sort or another to a local root mailbox that nobody watches. Once in a while, when disk space starts to run out, we purge old messages.[17:43:35] <ghoti> I'd like to start sending root's mail to "real" admin email addresses, but I need a valid 'myorigin' domain. Is it a better idea to (1) add my internal to public DNS so that I can easily tell these messages apart, at the cost of exposing internal hostnames in DNS, or[17:43:47] <ghoti> (2) use a single myorigin that is my domain, so that all outgoing mail from internal servers is uniform, or (3) could I perhaps set a DNS wildcard like *.int.example.com and set myorigin to a local hostname within that domain?[17:45:22] *** fornax has joined #postfix[17:47:12] <Tuxick> what's the actual problem?[17:48:05] <lunaphyte> just alias root to an actual email address[17:52:44] *** guampa has quit IRC[17:53:13] <lunaphyte> avoid relying on things like myorigin or mydomain[17:57:58] <ghoti> lunaphyte: setting the alias isn't the problem. The problem is that the alias points to an external address (we host our company email at Google), which responds with "553 5.1.8 <root at wopr dot example.com>... Domain of sender address root at wopr dot example.com does not exist (in reply to MAIL FROM command))"[17:58:07] <ghoti> wopr is the local hostname, which does not exist in our public DNS.[17:58:27] *** penk has quit IRC[18:01:24] <lunaphyte> oh, you're talking about the envelope sender?[18:01:42] <ghoti> That is what myorigin affects, is it not?[18:01:46] <lunaphyte> i would just set it to a valid real email address then. no reason to overthink it[18:03:22] <ghoti> Just trying to reduce the effort of tracking the origin of these things. When viewing a list of FROM and SUBJECT, I'd like to be able to see which actual host the mail came from. If it's not in the From, I'd need to add it to the Subject.[18:04:36] *** Darcidride has quit IRC[18:04:40] <lunaphyte> you can set the from header to whatever you like[18:05:52] *** lrea has left #postfix[18:06:29] *** penk has joined #postfix[18:08:36] *** ffiore has quit IRC[18:13:47] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[18:15:46] *** davlefou has quit IRC[18:16:02] *** ploopkazoo has quit IRC[18:30:26] <ghoti> If I set the From header to a hostname that exists courtesy of a wildcard in DNS, is that likely to avoid the "553 5.1.8" error I noted above?[18:32:31] <lunaphyte> i wouldn't even worry about dns[18:32:43] <lunaphyte> what does google do with the from header?[18:32:51] *** _Nomad_ is now known as Nomadx[18:33:12] *** Nomadx is now known as Nomads[18:33:20] *** ploopkazoo has joined #postfix[18:34:54] <ghoti> I am an idiot. :-P[18:35:12] <ghoti> Google does not refuse the mail. This was a local forwarder producing the error.[18:35:20] <ghoti> Sorry to bother you. I'll go back to my corner now.[18:35:28] <lunaphyte> oh, heh[18:35:31] <lunaphyte> no worries[18:38:12] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[18:49:17] *** err-or has joined #postfix[18:54:47] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[19:00:11] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[19:05:24] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[19:14:31] *** roo has joined #postfix[19:17:26] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[19:21:28] *** dFence has joined #postfix[19:22:48] <dFence> Hi guys! I just tried sending an email via my smtp server (as usual) but I get the RBLTRAP error message („Sorry, I have decided you are a spammer…“), even though I am authenticated via SASL… any ideas?[19:23:33] <lunaphyte> !tell dFence getting_help[19:23:33] <knoba> dFence: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[19:23:51] <dFence> !showconfig[19:23:51] <knoba> dFence: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[19:27:47] <dFence> here we are: http://pastebin.com/icFS717g[19:31:25] <thumbs> dFence: nope.[19:31:36] <dFence> no[19:31:37] <dFence> ?[19:31:44] <thumbs> dFence: you *never* want to offer sasl on port 25 - that's for other mx hosts[19:31:49] <thumbs> !t dFence submission[19:31:50] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "t" is not a valid command.[19:31:54] <thumbs> !tell dFence submission[19:31:54] <knoba> dFence: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[19:32:47] <dFence> hrrrrrrngh… now I know why it was working before - I removed the account some time ago and Mail.app must have just used the defaults[19:33:08] <dFence> thumbs: thanks![19:35:47] <dFence> thumbs: while looking through the conf, did anything else strike you as out of place?[19:36:13] <thumbs> dFence: I can't access pastebin.com, so I can't comment on it.[19:36:35] <dFence> ah okay, never mind then.[19:38:21] *** gamba47 has quit IRC[19:41:29] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[19:44:39] *** magyar has quit IRC[19:44:44] *** kisisten has joined #postfix[19:45:00] *** kisisten has quit IRC[19:58:25] *** BlueDino_ has joined #postfix[19:59:19] <BlueDino_> I have two domains, I have a postfix server running on my internal network. Sending out emails, one domain goes through mx1.emailsrvr.com, the other goes through a local IP address according to maillog[19:59:35] <BlueDino_> What controls that? MX record on the local DNS?[20:00:40] <BlueDino_> to=bluedino at foobar dot com, relay=foobar.com[10.0.0.240][20:08:05] <lunaphyte> dns, unless postfix is otherwise configured[20:12:25] <BlueDino_> yea we don't have a mx for that domain so it was using the wildcard. duh[20:12:53] <BlueDino_> I was ocnfused becuase mx1.emailsrvr.com doesn't show in oru configs anyway but it wouldn't because it's outgoing. I need a nap.[20:13:21] <lunaphyte> yet another reason why wildcards, in both email and dns, are foolish and amateur[20:17:29] <BlueDino_> agreed[20:19:41] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[20:19:50] *** bjornar_ has joined #postfix[20:23:33] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[20:29:45] *** a_west has quit IRC[20:29:55] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[20:30:11] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:34:48] *** skweek has joined #postfix[20:36:06] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[20:50:09] *** a_west has joined #postfix[20:54:12] *** rsx has joined #postfix[20:55:14] *** ffiore has quit IRC[21:03:45] *** penk_ has joined #postfix[21:04:26] *** penk has quit IRC[21:04:55] *** rsx has quit IRC[21:05:06] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[21:08:20] *** gorp has joined #postfix[21:08:55] *** gorp has left #postfix[21:12:26] *** OnkelTem has quit IRC[21:13:25] *** Dus10 has joined #postfix[21:13:52] *** fornax has quit IRC[21:14:33] *** dFence has quit IRC[21:14:53] *** dFence has joined #postfix[21:16:39] *** OnkelTem has joined #postfix[21:23:45] *** FinboySlick has joined #postfix[21:24:50] *** fling has quit IRC[21:25:23] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:26:43] *** penk_ has quit IRC[21:28:20] *** xBytez has quit IRC[21:29:40] *** xBytez has joined #postfix[21:29:40] *** xBytez has joined #postfix[21:30:12] *** penk has joined #postfix[21:33:29] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[21:45:59] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[21:59:26] *** zapata has quit IRC[22:00:25] *** gu1lle_1 has joined #postfix[22:02:03] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[22:02:03] *** gu1lle_1 is now known as gu1lle_[22:07:08] *** arinov_ has joined #postfix[22:09:20] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:09:59] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:10:25] *** arinov has quit IRC[22:11:14] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[22:12:44] *** zapata has joined #postfix[22:14:04] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[22:16:00] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[22:16:32] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[22:27:43] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[22:36:29] *** fornax has joined #postfix[22:42:08] *** MrJohn has joined #postfix[22:44:07] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[22:49:12] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[22:49:14] *** dh has quit IRC[22:50:21] *** TheFatherMind- has joined #postfix[22:50:22] *** TheFatherMind has quit IRC[22:52:00] *** ploopkazoo has quit IRC[22:54:32] *** nikgod has quit IRC[22:55:33] *** ploopkazoo has joined #postfix[22:55:37] *** MrJohn has quit IRC[22:56:43] *** dh has joined #postfix[22:57:10] *** magyar has joined #postfix[22:57:20] *** nikgod has joined #postfix[22:57:33] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[22:58:23] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[22:59:37] *** pti-jean_ has joined #postfix[23:00:42] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[23:02:01] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[23:03:54] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[23:07:41] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[23:08:42] *** skweek has quit IRC[23:10:46] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[23:10:52] *** TheAvatar has joined #postfix[23:13:41] *** anyk has quit IRC[23:14:00] *** atmx has left #postfix[23:16:12] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[23:16:31] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[23:21:17] *** anyk has joined #postfix[23:21:34] *** skweek has joined #postfix[23:27:33] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[23:29:42] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[23:29:44] *** penk has quit IRC[23:35:29] *** atmx has joined #postfix[23:43:08] *** joules has quit IRC[23:52:05] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix