September 20, 2015 
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September 20, 2015 [00:02:40] *** dbalog has quit IRC[00:12:41] *** magyar has quit IRC[00:19:39] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[00:34:02] *** magyar has joined #postfix[00:40:09] *** Darcidride_ has joined #postfix[00:42:54] *** Darcidride has quit IRC[00:44:33] *** Darcidride_ has quit IRC[00:46:47] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[00:47:04] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[00:47:12] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[00:47:32] *** magyar has quit IRC[00:47:55] *** magyar has joined #postfix[00:47:55] *** magyar has joined #postfix[00:51:26] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[00:56:51] *** skweek has joined #postfix[00:59:52] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[01:02:58] *** skweek has quit IRC[01:04:01] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[01:05:15] *** the-erm1 has joined #postfix[01:07:53] *** Cerise has quit IRC[01:09:24] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[01:09:24] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[01:14:56] <the-erm1> There's an email server that's set up to use only pop3 (not my server all I can do is log in and send & receive email.) Goal: Connect to the pop3 server and store it on my own server so I can connect to it using imap. Q: What settings/programs would I use to accomplish this? Reason: Keep the tablet & computer emails & folder structure in sync.[01:15:45] <the-erm1> Links would be appreciated.[01:15:57] <the-erm1> I'm not even sure what I'd google for.[01:24:58] <pj> !getmail[01:24:58] <knoba> pj: "getmail" : getmail(1) has a more sane design than fetchmail(1). Handing already-delivered mail off to a MTA always seemed silly to me.[01:25:03] <pj> the-erm1: ^^^^^[01:26:20] <pj> http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/[01:29:30] <lunaphyte> getmail still doesn't support starttls, left i knew, sadly[01:29:47] <lunaphyte> offlineimap does though[01:30:06] <lunaphyte> too bad it's pop3[01:30:08] <pj> oh, true, but you can likely use POP3s via a tunnel[01:30:25] <lunaphyte> weird. i typed "left"[01:30:29] <pj> I doubt a server that is so old it only offers pop3 will have STARTTLS anyways[01:30:48] <lunaphyte> probably[01:31:55] <pj> anyways, getmail in combination with dovecot for your own IMAP server should work. You don't need an MTA (postfix) in the equation.[01:33:13] <pj> !learn getmail as Getmail is a secure, flexible, reliable and easy-to-use mail retriever for POP3 and IMAP4. It delivers mail into a Maildir or mbox file. It is designed to replace other mail retrievers such as fetchmail. See http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/.[01:33:17] <pj> !getmail[01:33:18] <knoba> pj: "getmail" : (#1) getmail(1) has a more sane design than fetchmail(1). Handing already-delivered mail off to a MTA always seemed silly to me., or (#2) Getmail is a secure, flexible, reliable and easy-to-use mail retriever for POP3 and IMAP4. It delivers mail into a Maildir or mbox file. It is designed to replace other mail retrievers such as fetchmail. See http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/.[01:34:00] <pj> there we go, thought that factoid could use a bit more info[01:35:15] <pj> lunaphyte: I wonder if you could do some sort of tunnel through s_client to support STARTTLS[01:35:57] <pj> although s_client isn't really designed for that and I could see issues[01:40:15] *** kisisten has joined #postfix[01:40:36] <pj> oh, you can do starttls with stunnel[01:42:17] *** magyar has quit IRC[01:42:45] <pj> they call it "protocol", not starttls, but it does support it, so you could get a starttls connection with getmail by tunnelling through stunnel[01:44:50] *** dbalog has joined #postfix[01:51:28] <pj> heh, this whole time the-erm1 hasn't said a word[01:54:30] <the-erm1> Sorry son needed something.[01:54:40] <pj> heh, fair enough[01:54:49] <lunaphyte> hmm. i wonder if the comma belongs before or after son[01:54:50] <the-erm1> Thanks this is more than enough information to get me started. I appreciate the help.[01:55:06] <pj> the-erm1: yw :-)[01:56:02] <the-erm1> It's really too bad that they don't have imap on their server. It'd make things so much easier.[01:56:22] <pj> yeah, it must eitehr be a very old server or a clueless admin[01:56:46] <pj> I'd be worried in either case[02:29:48] *** dominic1134 has quit IRC[03:06:24] *** dbalog has quit IRC[03:09:51] *** penk has joined #postfix[03:26:43] *** armguy has quit IRC[03:33:11] *** bjornar_ has quit IRC[03:35:58] *** m82labs has joined #postfix[03:41:09] *** kisisten has quit IRC[03:41:09] *** dbalog has joined #postfix[03:43:10] *** kisisten has joined #postfix[03:57:14] <m82labs> Quick DKIM question. Should my DKIM sig be for my base domain? Or the full domain (domain.com) of my mail server (mail.domain.com).[03:57:48] <pj> it should be for your email domain, not the hostname.[03:59:14] <m82labs> Ok thanks. Getting "unsupported version" when I try to verify. Just starting from the basics to make sure I set it up properly.[04:17:31] <m82labs> Damn, just forgot some semi-colons in my DNS record.[04:26:22] *** JanC has quit IRC[04:29:54] *** JanC has joined #postfix[04:32:46] *** tcpdump has joined #postfix[04:33:23] *** tcpdump has quit IRC[04:48:58] *** CyberDems has quit IRC[05:03:43] *** m82labs has quit IRC[05:05:45] *** CyberDems has joined #postfix[05:15:55] *** dbalog has quit IRC[05:32:42] *** penk has quit IRC[06:04:01] *** magyar has joined #postfix[06:04:01] *** magyar has joined #postfix[06:05:42] *** arinov_ has quit IRC[06:08:18] *** kisisten has quit IRC[06:10:17] *** arinov has joined #postfix[06:29:09] *** arinov has quit IRC[06:50:28] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[07:20:50] *** magyar has quit IRC[07:28:53] *** arinov has joined #postfix[08:24:03] *** madduck has quit IRC[09:01:11] <arinov> HOW[09:01:25] <arinov> to disable host verification in postfix?[09:01:29] <arinov> for sender[09:03:22] <arinov> Sep 20 13:02:39 mail postfix/smtpd[18793]: warning: <IP>: hostname <IP> verification failed: Name or service not known[09:04:31] <thumbs> !tell arinov welcome[09:04:31] <knoba> arinov: "welcome" : Welcome to #postfix! If you're new here, or to IRC, first read the channel topic (/topic). It has important instructions on how to ask good questions. You will get more and better help if you follow those instructions. Good Luck![09:04:42] <arinov> heh[09:04:46] <arinov> direct question[09:05:25] <arinov> nothing personal, but can IRC people answer direct questions any more?[09:05:35] <arinov> how to disable this checks?[09:05:47] <arinov> with directive and configuration file?[09:06:25] <arinov> page and chapter name of official documentation where i can find simple solution[09:06:28] <arinov> anything[09:08:52] *** CyberDems has quit IRC[09:09:19] *** fragtion has joined #postfix[09:09:19] *** fragtion is now known as CyberDems[09:12:08] <arinov> whahahah[09:14:39] <gehidore> arinov: they can answer direct questions as well as "IRC people" can read /topics and informative messages...[09:15:17] <arinov> gehidore, hot to disable hostname check for remote senders?[09:15:21] <arinov> how*[09:20:21] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[09:20:38] *** gehidore has quit IRC[09:21:07] *** gehidore has joined #postfix[09:22:33] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[09:23:22] *** rsx has joined #postfix[09:28:48] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[09:31:30] *** SweetKatya has joined #postfix[09:31:46] <SweetKatya> hi. I want to make my email server accept to receive emails from _only_ my contacts list just to control spam. how can I do that? and please refer me to a web page worth reading about the issue.[09:32:30] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[09:40:33] <arinov> SweetKatya, heheheh[09:43:33] <thumbs> SweetKatya: that's not how spam control works, but see:[09:43:40] <thumbs> !address_verification[09:43:41] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "address_verification" is not a valid command.[09:43:53] <thumbs> !sender_verification[09:43:53] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "sender_verification" is not a valid command.[09:44:50] <thumbs> !check_sender_access[09:44:50] <knoba> thumbs: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[09:46:15] *** Motoko has quit IRC[09:46:47] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[09:51:47] *** Motoko has quit IRC[09:57:15] *** Batch has joined #postfix[10:07:13] *** skylite_ has 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on my centos6 (ovh released). Please is there a way to re install postfix again ?[17:59:22] <thumbs> Babcom: just use your package manager[18:00:01] <Babcom> 1574 packages excluded due to repository priority protections[18:00:01] <Babcom> Aucun paquet marqué pour suppression[18:00:01] <Babcom> thumbs , yes but when I try 'yum remove postfix' I have this error :[18:00:09] <Babcom> 1574 packages excluded due to repository priority protections[18:00:09] <Babcom> Aucun paquet marqué pour suppression[18:00:31] <thumbs> Babcom: that's not really a #postfix issue[18:01:03] <Babcom> ok, I thought it was sorry :/[18:01:20] <Babcom> I thought it was. Sorry[18:07:07] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[18:10:05] *** sina0 has joined #postfix[18:10:23] *** Babcom has left #postfix[18:23:19] *** armguy has joined #postfix[18:23:51] *** madduck has quit IRC[18:29:57] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[18:41:00] *** armguy has quit IRC[18:41:27] *** armguy has joined #postfix[18:43:45] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[18:49:07] *** irgendwer4711 has joined #postfix[18:51:05] *** MinetestForFun_ has joined #postfix[18:53:49] *** danieli has joined #postfix[18:54:59] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[18:55:09] *** Slackology has quit IRC[19:06:10] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ has joined #postfix[19:09:19] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[19:29:27] *** armguy has quit IRC[19:29:56] *** armguy has joined #postfix[19:30:41] *** SweetKatya has left #postfix[19:31:08] *** irgendwer4711 has left #postfix[19:33:06] *** skweek has joined #postfix[19:33:15] *** skweek has quit IRC[19:34:30] *** arinov has quit IRC[19:40:33] *** ghostlines has joined #postfix[19:40:51] *** ghostlines has left #postfix[19:41:13] *** ghostlines has joined #postfix[19:43:12] <ghostlines> howdy, is it possible to use one VPS(one IP) to send email for multiple domains that I host for customers without Gmail and others considering sent mail as spam?[19:43:48] <ghostlines> appreciate any tips or docs[19:50:44] <Tuxick> if you add dkim and spf it might work[19:50:54] <Tuxick> those hotmail idiots are most likely to become a problem[19:51:47] *** Cerise has quit IRC[19:52:30] <Tuxick> oh and definitely avoid OVH :)[19:53:13] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[19:53:13] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[20:05:41] *** passthru has quit IRC[20:14:55] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[20:21:46] *** SpamGladiator has joined #postfix[20:26:11] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[20:32:00] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[20:34:36] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[20:41:59] *** dbalog has joined #postfix[20:44:02] *** SpamGladiator has quit IRC[20:46:05] *** michael_mbp has quit IRC[20:50:35] *** michael_mbp has joined #postfix[20:53:08] <rob0> Multiple domains are not the issue at all. The issue is mostly the reputation of your IP address and your provider's network.[20:53:51] *** passthru has joined #postfix[20:54:26] *** skylite has joined #postfix[20:54:43] <rob0> also,[20:54:58] <rob0> !tell ghostlines fcrdns[20:54:58] <knoba> ghostlines: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[20:55:44] *** dbalog has quit IRC[20:55:48] <ghostlines> rob0 thanks will check this out![21:00:07] *** ploopkazoo has quit IRC[21:09:47] *** MinetestForFun_ has quit IRC[21:16:32] *** [NoClan]GoAway_ has left #postfix[21:16:51] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[21:22:29] *** ploopkazoo has joined #postfix[21:23:29] *** arinov has joined #postfix[21:44:55] *** dstarh has quit IRC[21:47:36] *** skweek has joined #postfix[21:58:52] *** professor_ has joined #postfix[22:04:15] <professor_> I'm getting 550 5.1.1 <x at y dot se>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table, I have checked my logs and am seeing this postfix/smtpd[32466]: connect from unknown[10.0.0.13]. How can I solve this unknown problem?[22:05:02] <Tuxick> fix dns[22:05:17] <Tuxick> but that's nothing to do with unknown user[22:05:27] <Tuxick> more like everything is wrong[22:05:47] <professor_> Tuxick, not sure what to fix, trying different solutions on the internet but no luck[22:07:57] <professor_> any guess what might be wrong? checked main.cf several times but cannot find the problem[22:08:36] <professor_> I can send mail to gmail and other mail accounts but I cannot receive them[22:10:49] *** dbalog has joined #postfix[22:18:19] *** ced117_ has quit IRC[22:26:54] *** passthru has quit IRC[22:36:27] *** internat has quit IRC[22:36:42] *** internat has joined #postfix[22:38:43] *** TheAvatar has quit IRC[22:38:55] *** TheAvatar has joined #postfix[22:44:24] *** dbalog has quit IRC[22:45:20] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[22:51:23] *** TheAvatar has quit IRC[22:51:33] *** TheAvatar has joined #postfix[22:58:19] *** skweek has quit IRC[23:02:34] *** skylite has quit IRC[23:07:07] *** danieli has quit IRC[23:10:54] <Freeaqingme> Is it possible to disable support for the RSET command? It seems either postfix' milter implementation, or libmilter doesn't handle it nicely[23:11:41] *** skweek has joined #postfix[23:20:48] *** Xenoth has quit IRC[23:23:12] <pj> disable in what way, for what service?[23:23:58] <Freeaqingme> just have it respond "invalid command" or something to all smtp clients that issue it[23:25:39] <pj> !smtpd_forbidden_commands[23:25:39] <knoba> pj: Error: "smtpd_forbidden_commands" is not a valid command.[23:25:42] <pj> bleh[23:25:48] <Freeaqingme> oh, that should give a hint[23:25:49] <Freeaqingme> tnx[23:25:50] <pj> you probably want smtpd_forbidden_commands[23:25:56] <pj> !postconf_5[23:25:56] <knoba> pj: "postconf_5" : All possible postconf(5) settings are documented in the manual: use man 5 postconf, or visit http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html[23:26:22] <Freeaqingme> perfect[23:26:33] <Freeaqingme> or well, it's a nasty solution to a stupid bug[23:27:00] <pj> alternatively, smtpd_noop_commands, if you want smtpd to give a 250 respose but ignore the command.[23:28:41] <pj> or, you might be able to fix it with smtpd_command_filter[23:28:45] <pj> those are the different options[23:30:15] <Freeaqingme> cool[23:30:16] <Freeaqingme> I'll work something out[23:31:48] <pj> also have a look at smtpd_junk_command_limit[23:33:05] *** m82labs has joined #postfix[23:35:25] <professor_> /var/log/mail.log keeps shoing unknowns postfix/smtpd: connect from unknown. What can be the problem?[23:35:51] <Freeaqingme> connects from unknown are connections that have no reverse dns[23:38:35] <pj> they're basically connections that don't satisfy fcrdns[23:38:38] <pj> !fcrdns[23:38:38] <knoba> pj: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[23:38:40] <professor_> Freeaqingme: ok, I cannot send mail from say a gmail account to my own mailservers accounts it says: 550 5.1.1 <tj at turnkeysolutions dot se>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table[23:39:05] <pj> !tell professor_ getting_help[23:39:05] <knoba> professor_: "getting_help" : before asking your question, read the !relevant_logs and !showconfig factoids, and prepare a single pastebin containing all of that data. if you don't understand what this means, or if you need help doing this, please let us know. also see !pastebin[23:40:09] *** m82labs has quit IRC[23:42:19] <professor_> ok, here is pastebin[23:42:21] <professor_> http://pastebin.com/e3vyxHK6[23:43:34] <pj> professor_: please actually follow the instructions in the factoid.[23:44:10] <professor_> sorry unsure how to[23:44:45] <professor_> !relevant_logs[23:44:45] <knoba> professor_: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[23:45:19] <professor_> !showconfig[23:45:19] <knoba> professor_: "showconfig" : when asked to provide your config, pastebin postconf -nf and postconf -Mf. if your version is too old for those commands to work (< 2.9), you should upgrade, but see !showconfig_old[23:47:18] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[23:50:25] <professor_> So I have checked the logs and there potential problems I see are the previously stated unknown and also a warning in the mail.log file "warning: TLS library problem: error:14082174:SSL routines:SSL3_CHECK_CERT_AND_ALGORITHM:dh key too small:s3_clnt.c:3339:"[23:53:13] <pj> I have to go[23:58:21] <rob0> !tell professor_ unknown_virtual[23:58:21] <knoba> professor_: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)