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[01:10:16] <asterismo> hi ppl
[01:11:28] <asterismo> why should i use amavis instead of spamassasin? that was suggested to me in this channel before
[01:11:39] <asterismo> just wanted to know your opinions on that
[01:25:23] <asterismo> i need help to fix this postfix conf error
[01:25:24] <asterismo> http://pastebin.oalm.gub.uy/view/2b559034
[01:27:41] <rob0> read "man 5 master" (master.5.html) about file syntax.  Specifically about leading whitespace to continue a logical line.
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[01:33:46] <asterismo> now i fixed and postfix is starting, although i cannot send mail, i get fatal: unexpected command-line argument: submission
[01:33:49] <asterismo> checking out
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[02:06:03] <asterismo> where are smtp SSL ports specified in postfix? or are they hardcoded in it?
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[02:32:52] <asterismo> hi, can anyone help me or give me a hint of what is this error? i cannot send mail from squirrelmail: http://pastebin.oalm.gub.uy/view/3fb2dfab
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[03:48:06] <asterismo> what to do with this? Gmail wont accept my home email server it seems: http://pastebin.oalm.gub.uy/view/ea7c2a22
[03:58:04] <jaybe> Expected.
[04:03:07] <lunaphyte> yup, looks normal.  get a vps
[04:03:42] <lunaphyte> are you ignoring your isp's terms of service, and trying to run an unauthorized mail server?
[04:10:52] <asterismo> no
[04:10:55] <asterismo> not at all
[04:11:02] <asterismo> i'm running my own mail server
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[04:11:32] <asterismo> i'm figuring out how to get the MX record of the freedns domain
[04:11:41] <asterismo> i use afraid.org free dns
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[04:13:20] <lunaphyte> you're running your own mail server, on your computer at home, which is connected to the internet via your isp
[04:14:31] <lunaphyte> when you purchased your service from them, you agreed to their terms of service
[04:22:07] <asterismo> i want to know the solutions of this
[04:22:19] <asterismo> relaying to other smtp server, maybe my IPSs
[04:22:32] <asterismo> or something
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[04:31:06] <asterismo> how do i relay the SMTP to my ISP?
[04:31:09] <asterismo> please help
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[05:24:02] <lunaphyte> !tell asterismo relayhost
[05:24:03] <knoba> asterismo: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid.
[05:24:42] <asterismo> thanks lunaphyte
[05:25:06] <asterismo> i learned that my email server project will fail
[05:25:20] <asterismo> because i cannot do anything about gmail rejecting my emails
[05:25:36] <asterismo> my ISP wont relay emails from my server
[05:26:34] <lunaphyte> my initial recommendation rmains.  get a vps
[05:26:42] <lunaphyte> *remains
[05:29:41] <asterismo> lunaphyte: but i want to be in total control
[05:29:54] <asterismo> i want ti tu run in my own hardware
[05:30:05] <asterismo> lunaphyte: that is probably the best way
[05:30:15] <rob0> then upgrade your account with your ISP
[05:30:24] <lunaphyte> yes, then you will pay
[05:30:31] <lunaphyte> i like to be in total control too
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[05:30:40] <lunaphyte> but the cost for it would be absurd
[05:30:45] <lunaphyte> so i use a vps
[05:30:59] <rob0> a VPS is cheaper, and you can even NAT the outbound traffic through it if you like
[05:31:26] <lunaphyte> with a vps, i still have almost total control
[05:31:33] <asterismo> for that i would use gmail thow
[05:31:44] <asterismo> vps, gmail who cares
[05:31:48] <lunaphyte> and really, the only things i don't have "control" over are things that don't actually matter all that much
[05:31:54] <asterismo> i want it home
[05:32:15] <lunaphyte> heh.  no, a vps is not even close to the same thing as gmail.  that's completely disingenuous
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[05:35:00] <asterismo> it is for security
[05:35:26] <lunaphyte> nope
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[11:55:57] <hydrajump> lunaphyte: did you have time to look at my config? if not here's the link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3e1293ea4ef0168ee1b7
[11:57:55] <DominikB> hydrajump, is that right that you have a virtual transport but no virtual*map
[11:58:58] <hydrajump> DominikB: hi ;) doesn't seem like I do :(
[11:59:16] <DominikB> is this intend ?
[12:01:49] <hydrajump> not sure I'll have to look in the docs about virtual_map
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[17:17:09] <lunaphyte> hydrajump: you did not follow the instructions
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[17:37:57] <resmo> hi
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[17:41:08] <lunaphyte> oh,  no, my mistake.  apologies
[17:41:56] <resmo> i am using check_client_access and having a entry e.g. .example.com OK to "whitelist" a client i trust, which works fine. Except if client is using IPv6, I see that the IPv6 can not be resolved into domain, however if I reverse lookup on the mailserver, I get a name. So it seems to me, this must be somehow postfix related
[17:42:22] <resmo> from unknown[<ipv6>]
[17:43:22] <resmo> any hints?
[17:46:26] <hydrajump> lunaphyte: which instructions?
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[21:27:02] <sviesusisalus> hello. we have two postfix server installations on different VPS providers with identically same postfix server config. Both servers are configured to provide multidomain email hosting. emails from one server are marked as spam another is not. Can this be missconfiguration issue? or just the IP of the server is "dirty" ?
[21:27:57] <ek> sviesusisalus: How are they being marked as spam? What do the headers say?
[21:28:08] <ek> sviesusisalus: Chances are, the IP is in an RBL.
[21:32:29] <sviesusisalus> no, both IP's are not listed. give me a min will give you the differences
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[21:43:46] <sviesusisalus> ek, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c76c2d78de276bc6dbb7
[21:44:33] <sviesusisalus> ek, i understand that second email is marked as spam as DKIM fails to validate, but this was my attempt to make this domain not spam....
[21:44:50] <sviesusisalus> ek, you can try and have a look, both IP's are clean.
[21:45:32] <sviesusisalus> can somehow new domain be treated as not trustable ?
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[22:16:37] <hydrajump> I'm reading the virtual readme http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html and the config is a bit confusing with regards to which options to use. Specifically the config shows setting the following 3 options
[22:16:49] <hydrajump>  virtual_mailbox_domains = example.com ...more domains...
[22:16:54] <hydrajump> virtual_mailbox_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/vmailbox
[22:17:00] <hydrajump> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[22:17:31] <hydrajump> but in the default postfix config `virtual_mailbox_domains = $virtual_mailbox_maps`
[22:17:45] <hydrajump> and `virtual_alias_maps = $virtual_maps`
[22:18:31] <hydrajump> the two options that are referenced are empty. Is that were the config should be set or should I replace the references with my config?
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[22:20:54] <hydrajump> ah I think I understand. with `virtual_mailbox_domains` I can't specify a lookup file I have to use `virtual_mailbox_maps`
[22:27:08] <pj> sviesusisalus: problems with both SPF and DKIM in the sending domain.
[22:29:42] <sviesusisalus> pj, ok, i removed DKIM as it would be impossible to accomplish using multiple domains and minimum end user interaction. how should i make my SPF records? assuming my server is mail.* so SPF should be for "mail" ?
[22:30:13] <pj> sviesusisalus: no, SPF is for the sending domain, not hte server hostname.
[22:30:26] <pj> dkim has nothing at all to do with hostname either and is quite possible for multiple domains.
[22:32:45] <pj> !tell hydrajump postconf_5
[22:32:45] <knoba> hydrajump: "postconf_5" : All possible postconf(5) settings are documented in the manual: use man 5 postconf, or visit http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html
[22:33:04] <pj> hydrajump: have a look at the postconf(5) man page to see what all those differnet settings really mean.
[22:34:23] <sviesusisalus> pj, so assuming my domain is domain.com the SPF record should be     domain.com TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all" ?
[22:35:43] <pj> sviesusisalus: that is one possible record for it, yes, but I prefer to use ip4 and ip6 entries and specify my server's IP address directly since it means that the receiving servers don't have to do an additional DNS lookup to get that info, then.
[22:36:18] <pj> anyways, I have to go
[22:36:29] <sviesusisalus> pj, thanks for your help here
[22:39:39] <rob0> hydrajump, no, you are wrong.
[22:40:16] <rob0> virtual_mailbox_domains can be a lookup file too.  See postconf.5.html#virtual_mailbox_domains
[22:40:51] <hydrajump> pj: I've read what the options mean a few times but looking at the VIRTUAL_README.html example I'm not sure I understand why first the domains are listed, then there's a lookup table for the vmailbox.
[22:41:02] <hydrajump> I understand the virtual_alias_maps options.
[22:41:03] <rob0> the $virtual_maps thing is an ancient compatibility setting.
[22:41:10] <hydrajump> oh
[22:41:11] <rob0> !virtual_maps
[22:41:12] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_maps" : The virtual_maps postconf(5) parameter has been deprecated since Postfix 2.0. If you're using virtual_maps, you're probably following old, outdated information. See !virtual_alias_maps and !virtual_alias_domains for the replacements. See also !google.
[22:43:58] <hydrajump> rob0: pj but if the default config is ` virtual_mailbox_domains = $virtual_mailbox_maps` then creating a single lookup table, e.g. virtual_mailbox_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/vmailbox would be enough, right?
[22:44:43] <rob0> yes
[22:44:59] <hydrajump> otherwise it would be two lookup tables one has domains and the other has either catchall or each legitimate mail user
[22:45:17] <rob0> ugh, stay away from catchall
[22:45:30] <hydrajump> ok
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[22:47:35] <hydrajump> and just out of curiosity if virtual_mailbox_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/domains and virtual_mailbox_maps = "" would that work?
[22:47:55] <hydrajump> so each user's address would not be in a lookup table
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[22:50:05] <rob0> no.
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[22:50:53] <hydrajump> ok
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[22:52:24] <oktaya> Hey guys/girls. I am using always_bcc which works but I am getting bounced emails there also. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:52:31] <oktaya> I want to get actual delivered emails only.
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[22:54:07] <rob0> always means always, no, not easy to fix that.  But maybe think more about your goal and look at {recipient,sender}_bcc_maps?
[22:55:23] <oktaya> what is the difference there. I didn't look there so far because it's only one domain.
[22:56:24] <rob0> !recipient_bcc_maps
[22:56:24] <knoba> rob0: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.
[22:57:25] <oktaya> how about this: receiveoverrideoptions = noaddressmappings  . i just found a few forum posts on apple's boards mentinoning this.
[22:57:50] <oktaya> also. spamassassin reinjects the mail. will recipient_bcc_maps work like that? I mean without bcc'ing bounced messages?
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[23:00:45] <oktaya> I am also actually using dovecot to deliver the mails
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[23:05:41] <sviesusisalus> which SPF record testing tools do you use ?
[23:09:22] <oktaya> rob0: does recipient_bcc_maps behave differently compared to always_bcc? Wouldn't it also deliver bounced messages to the bcc mapped address?
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[23:41:49] <oktaya> cheers guys
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