September 8, 2015 
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Should I header_checks and PREPEND the missing Date: ?[08:12:41] *** carl- has joined #postfix[08:16:18] <survietamine> I can see this setting too: always_add_missing_headers[08:20:41] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[08:39:14] *** zacdev has quit IRC[08:39:25] <survietamine> but I found that funny answer from Wietse http://postfix.1071664.n5.nabble.com/why-always-add-missing-headers-is-not-adding-To-header-td73227.html[08:40:11] <survietamine> the doc says it adds some missing headers including To: but now, To: is no more required. Why isn't the doc updated then?[08:40:44] <survietamine> anyway, in my case, I'm just needing the Date header, which one seems to still be required[08:47:50] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[08:55:01] *** Darcidride has joined #postfix[08:56:40] *** skynews has joined #postfix[08:57:21] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[08:58:07] <pj> survietamine: cleanup will add the Date: header[08:58:41] <pj> survietamine: see the cleanup(8) man page[09:02:10] *** Darcidride has quit IRC[09:05:15] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[09:05:29] <survietamine> pj: ok, thanks, but it's only with always_add_missing_headers setting, no?[09:06:10] <survietamine> my plan is to set always_add_missing_headers = on and including the subnet of our EATON to local_header_rewrite_clients[09:06:38] <survietamine> is that correct?[09:10:27] *** darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger[09:29:56] *** darkavenger is now known as darkavenger_afk[09:30:14] *** lrea has joined #postfix[09:57:18] <pj> survietamine: I would set it to on, although I can't say for sure from the docs.[09:57:42] <pj> well, set it to yes[10:03:04] <survietamine> yes, sorry, I meant to "yes", that's what I set[10:03:35] <survietamine> but looks weird, postfix seems to add Date header even if the client is not in local_header_rewrite_clients[10:10:37] *** zafu has quit IRC[10:12:57] <tuxick> ok, still having problem with this big active queue going out way too slowly[10:15:28] <tuxick> found several threads about it, but still no simple answer[10:16:43] *** skynews has quit IRC[10:18:27] <tuxick> thought default_destination_rate_delay was the relevant one but obviously not[10:19:31] <tuxick> although "same destination" seems a big vague[10:20:57] <tuxick> haha, changing from 1s to 0 resulted in 1 per second[10:21:09] *** dazo_afk has joined #postfix[10:21:35] *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo[10:22:41] <tuxick> dillemma, this is too fast, gmail won't like that[10:28:03] *** dazo has quit IRC[10:30:47] *** skynews has joined #postfix[10:31:35] <tuxick> so, how come default_destination_rate_delay = 1s results in about 1 mail per minute while 0 does about 1/second?[10:31:50] *** wigwam has quit IRC[10:32:19] <tuxick> hm[10:33:10] *** dazo_afk has joined #postfix[10:33:35] *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo[10:45:32] *** MissAntroph_ is now known as MissAntroph[10:47:54] *** artista-frustrad has quit IRC[10:48:02] *** artista_frustrad has joined #postfix[10:57:48] *** sphenxes02 has joined #postfix[11:01:36] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[11:13:28] *** moonpunter has quit IRC[11:17:04] *** Hydrazine has quit IRC[11:18:34] *** Hydrazine has joined #postfix[11:21:00] *** dazo has quit IRC[11:26:11] *** sina0 has quit IRC[11:26:43] *** sina0 has joined #postfix[11:28:04] *** skylite has joined #postfix[11:33:21] *** sina0 has quit IRC[11:48:28] *** sina0 has joined #postfix[11:51:22] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[11:58:34] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[12:02:25] *** sina0 has quit IRC[12:04:00] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[12:09:49] *** dazo_afk has joined #postfix[12:10:14] *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo[12:14:12] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[12:15:15] *** keanne has quit IRC[12:25:16] *** necrogami has quit IRC[12:26:58] *** joules has quit IRC[12:31:43] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[12:34:24] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[12:42:48] *** necrogami has joined #postfix[12:44:15] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[12:50:33] *** carl- has quit IRC[12:52:58] *** darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger[12:54:07] *** skynews has quit IRC[13:06:15] <higuita> tuxick: post your postconf -n and the master.cf[13:06:39] <higuita> don't know what you are doing, but i get MANY delivers for minute to gmail[13:07:17] <tuxick> my too, when i set *_destination_rate_delay = 0[13:07:20] <DominikB> probably his ip has a bad rating[13:07:40] <tuxick> but i don't understand why it drops to about one per minute when i set it to 1s[13:08:04] <tuxick> DominikB: except for constant fights with those hotmail idiots reputation isn't bad[13:08:19] <tuxick> even though this server sends some big mailings :/[13:08:27] <DominikB> tux sending or reciving hotmail?[13:08:37] <tuxick> 10k gmail 8k hotmail, stuff like that[13:08:40] <tuxick> sending to[13:09:18] <DominikB> tuxick, yeah but after sometime it should work :D i have troble with aol[13:09:28] <tuxick> it works[13:09:39] <tuxick> but 0 is too fast and 1s is too slow[13:09:51] <DominikB> 0.5 ;)[13:09:59] <tuxick> and i find nothing in documentation about what else affects _destination_rate_delay[13:10:15] <higuita> the default is 0s[13:10:20] <tuxick> which is too fast[13:10:33] <higuita> why you want to add a delay? to rate limit it?[13:10:33] <tuxick> gmail starts throttling[13:10:37] <tuxick> and hotmail barfs[13:11:16] <tuxick> yes, if you send 10k mails at gmail without limiting you get a problem[13:11:40] <higuita> change the default_destination_concurrency_limit to 10 or 5 maybe and keep the rate_delay to 0[13:12:35] <tuxick> it's at 50 now[13:12:42] <higuita> also, make sure you have the correct rdns, the SPF setup, as they sometime help also[13:12:44] <higuita> 50!![13:12:45] <tuxick> so lowering that?[13:12:52] <tuxick> well it was at 20[13:12:53] *** nyloc_ is now known as nyloc[13:12:54] <higuita> you are really asking for problems :)[13:13:01] <tuxick> tried setting it to 50 but no help either[13:13:09] <tuxick> but why is 1s not 1s?[13:13:39] <higuita> that will increase the parallel delivery to gmail and reaching the limits faster[13:13:43] <tuxick> but good idea, i'll lower it and keep delay at 0[13:14:01] <tuxick> well i tried 50 because 1s resulted in 1/2 mails a minute[13:14:06] <tuxick> made no sense[13:14:25] <higuita> you have to find a middle point where it is fast enough for you, but not too fast to trigger the rate limit[13:14:52] <tuxick> documentation not very clear about that[13:15:20] <higuita> yes, probably, if you wait 1 second for each message, you might need more channels... but i have 25 to gmail and 0 rate and works fine[13:17:25] <tuxick> concurrency limit at 25?[13:17:44] <higuita> yes[13:18:03] <tuxick> k[13:18:05] <higuita> have you changed the smtp_connection_reuse_time_limit or the smtp_connection_reuse_count_limit[13:18:38] <tuxick> no those are on defaults[13:18:51] <higuita> reusing connection is also a good idea, the default are fine, so dont change then[13:18:58] <higuita> ok[13:19:07] <tuxick> saw no reason to change them :)[13:19:43] <tuxick> i considered fixing the script sending out the mails, make it randomize[13:19:55] <tuxick> but pointless if half the addresses are hotmail/gmail[13:20:13] <higuita> yep, that don't help much[13:21:31] <tuxick> ok, rate now approaching acceptable[13:21:34] <higuita> i get about 1/3 gmail, 1/3 hotmail and 1/5 a Portuguese ISP (sapo/telepac) ... and send about 300k emails every day[13:21:55] <tuxick> ah that's more[13:22:48] <higuita> the sapo/telepac was the one with lower limits and i had to reduce it concurrency_limit to 5 (IIRC)[13:24:01] <higuita> but i get good performance on all of then[13:25:08] <higuita> postfix manage very well big queues and fast deliveries, the defaults are very good[13:25:31] *** skweek has joined #postfix[13:26:11] <tuxick> postfix can do faster than those americans accept ;p[13:27:30] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[13:28:59] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[13:30:28] *** ogny has joined #postfix[13:31:00] *** skweek has quit IRC[13:33:45] *** thumbs has quit IRC[13:33:52] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[13:34:41] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[13:36:37] *** thumbs has quit IRC[13:36:39] *** skweek has joined #postfix[13:36:55] *** frank- has joined #postfix[13:37:21] *** leeyaa has joined #postfix[13:37:22] *** frank- is now known as thumbs[13:37:29] <leeyaa> hello[13:37:46] *** carl- has joined #postfix[13:38:18] <leeyaa> i have a saslauthd question - if i am forwarding outbound emails to remote relay postfix, can i also forward saslauthd requests ?[13:38:33] <leeyaa> atm i dont see the saslauthd entries in logs on remote server and i would like to move it there[13:38:52] <leeyaa> or this is not a postfix question[13:40:11] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[13:50:17] <tuxick> higuita: rate delay 0 and concurrency 5 seems to be just enough so far[13:52:15] *** yosafbridge has joined #postfix[14:02:50] <lunaphyte> leeyaa: no, you caanot[14:02:52] <lunaphyte> *cannot[14:03:23] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[14:03:32] <leeyaa> lunaphyte: so how to make postfix log saslauthd entries on the remote machine? move saslauthd there ?[14:03:56] <lunaphyte> what is the actual problem you are trying to solve?[14:04:35] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:05:30] <leeyaa> lunaphyte: its kinda a long story[14:07:02] <leeyaa> i have multiple postfix servers that are forwarding all outbound emails to another postfix servers linked to policyd instances. during that forwarding i loose saslauthd logging (can't see who is sending the email on the remote machine where policyd is running).[14:07:19] <leeyaa> so i am looking for a way to be able to use policyd filtering based on saslauth[14:07:30] <leeyaa> i can not run policyd on the main machines[14:08:58] <leeyaa> i've tried to do it few months ago then dropped it ;p[14:11:02] *** joules has joined #postfix[14:13:56] <lunaphyte> loggin? use a central syslog server[14:13:59] <lunaphyte> *logging[14:15:05] <leeyaa> can't do that either[14:15:20] <leeyaa> here to display the craziness of this, these are the configs https://bpaste.net/show/e36ed9ce0202[14:15:21] <lunaphyte> ok, then you have artificial constraints. good luck[14:16:44] <leeyaa> yeah ill need luck. the main problem is i can not change much and half of the system is legacy -.-[14:34:11] *** zapata has joined #postfix[14:34:11] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[14:42:12] *** skweek has quit IRC[14:42:30] *** skweek has joined #postfix[14:52:01] *** RangerRick has quit IRC[14:53:24] *** RangerRick has joined #postfix[15:15:18] *** mikecmpbll has joined #postfix[15:16:23] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[15:16:43] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[15:23:30] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:28:31] <anexit> is there anyway to stop email spoofing in postfix?[15:28:42] <Dominian> hmm?[15:28:49] <Dominian> Would need examples of what you're talking about[15:30:00] <anexit> email came in saying that I need to wire 500K it came from my email address but the reply-to goes somewhere else. I looked at the headers and it was sent from another email just mocking up the from to look like me.[15:30:09] <anexit> unfortantly I have only $30[15:30:10] <anexit> haha[15:30:20] <Dominian> What type of spam filtering are you doing?[15:30:24] <Dominian> RBLs etc?[15:30:30] <Dominian> are you using postscreen?[15:30:31] <anexit> indeed, amavisd/spamd[15:30:44] <anexit> clam[15:30:50] <anexit> and greylisting[15:30:54] <Dominian> what about RBLs in postfix?[15:30:58] <anexit> yes[15:31:01] <Dominian> might take a look at /topic[15:31:01] <anexit> many[15:31:12] <Dominian> provide some of th einfo there and we can take a look.. might just be a case of some reconfiguration[15:31:37] <rob0> You definitely should do postscreen before amavisd & other content-based filtering.[15:31:43] <rob0> !cheatsheet[15:31:44] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : (#1) http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control., or (#2) A postscreen cheatsheet can be seen at http://rob0.nodns4.us/postscreen.html[15:31:51] <lunaphyte> you can reject mail using your domain in the From:, Reply-To:, etc. headers, but you will just end up turning it off[15:32:17] <Dominian> yep[15:32:27] <Dominian> Which is why I'm thinking your RBLs or something else needs tweaked[15:34:26] <anexit> I run postscreen[15:34:39] <Dominian> Ok.[15:34:47] <Dominian> That's great.. but.. can you show us your config?[15:34:50] <Dominian> per /topic[15:35:59] <anexit> http://pastebin.com/KeX0bCRc[15:37:04] <Dominian> what versionof postfix?[15:37:08] <Dominian> because I don't see postscreen being used[15:37:32] <Dominian> using sbl/xbl.spamhaus.org is a waste as you are using zen.spamhaus.org[15:37:35] <rob0> !ordb[15:37:36] <knoba> rob0: Error: "ordb" is not a valid command.[15:37:42] <Dominian> ordb is dead[15:38:10] <anexit> http://pastebin.com/z1y5ixUT[15:38:13] <anexit> postconf[15:38:41] <Dominian> anexit: what version of postfix is this?[15:38:57] <anexit> postfix-2.11.4,1[15:39:03] <Dominian> yeah.. ok.[15:39:17] <Dominian> Well smtpd_recipient_restrictions, if you want to run postscreen, you don't need the RBLs in there[15:40:03] <anexit> Postscreen is on another server[15:40:11] <anexit> that dumps to an openbsd spamd[15:40:28] <anexit> email gets transported from there[15:41:14] <anexit> I think we will be ditching postscreen as spamd seems to be doing quite will with the delay[15:41:44] <anexit> I think my only option is to turn on hostname checking[15:42:00] <anexit> unfortantly this is a double edge sword as well[15:48:36] <patdk-wk> that makes no sense[15:50:07] <rob0> hostname checking?[15:50:15] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[15:51:52] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[15:52:01] <tuxick> i've been testing barracude rbl, that seems rather ok[15:52:10] <tuxick> barracuda[15:52:30] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[15:54:11] <rob0> For a short time I was using BRBL to reject outright, but I found a few non-spam being blocked that way.[15:54:44] <rob0> I score it in postscreen, but it needs one other DNSBL to reject.[15:59:19] <anexit> I believe I have barracude rbl[16:05:55] *** fzirngibl has joined #postfix[16:13:10] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[16:14:33] *** R1ppa has quit IRC[16:19:18] *** cuqa_ has joined #postfix[16:19:31] <cuqa_> hello, am I correct here if I have a problem with my postfix mailserver and maildrop?[16:19:59] <cuqa_> I currently have masses of emails in the /var/spool/postfix/maildrop folder and it's too much for deleting them quickly[16:20:17] <tuxick> where did they come from then?[16:20:18] <DominikB> cuqa_, did you check your mail.log[16:20:26] <cuqa_> postqueue -p | [...] | postsuper -d - is really slow[16:20:44] <cuqa_> the source has stopped sending emails[16:21:15] <cuqa_> but still, cant get rid of the mails which are still in the pipe[16:22:32] <DominikB> cuqa_, at your own risk and loss off all mails in your queue postsuper -d ALL[16:22:45] <cuqa_> no thx. not my server ^^[16:23:05] <cuqa_> even postqueue -p is taking ages to show the mails[16:23:21] <rob0> what might be quicker is to put the spams on hold[16:24:47] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[16:25:52] <cuqa_> do postqueue and other commands work if postfix is not running?[16:26:27] <DominikB> cuqa_, yes[16:28:00] *** carl- has quit IRC[16:42:43] *** stevenm has joined #postfix[16:43:59] <stevenm> Hey I'm putting postfix in to replace an older more microsoft smtp relay.... and I get these errors.... postfix/smtpd[17959]: warning: Illegal address syntax from crm.internal-domain.local[10.0.0.2] in RCPT command: hello at customer dot com;anotherhello@customertwo.com[16:44:09] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[16:44:22] <stevenm> I realise a semicolon probably isn't standard - but is there anything I can tweak to postfix to make it work with a semicolon anyway?[16:44:23] *** magyar has joined #postfix[16:46:19] <lunaphyte> is that supposed to be an email address?[16:47:34] <rob0> The proper way to do multiple recipients is with multiple RCPT TO commands, each with a single address.[16:48:53] <lunaphyte> if that's supposed to be independent, separate, email addresses, then no.[16:51:30] <lunaphyte> and fwiw, that's not microsoft merely making some small innocuous digression from a standard[16:52:01] <lunaphyte> that is a completely wrong, invented syntax, that in no way reflects how email/smtp actually works[16:52:21] <tuxick> some clients allow comma separated lists afair[16:52:36] <tuxick> which might confuse people[16:52:37] <lunaphyte> within the client interface? sure.[16:52:43] <tuxick> ack[16:53:07] <lunaphyte> commas, spaces, semicolons, tabs, probably other characters too[16:54:00] *** skylite has quit IRC[16:54:40] <rob0> Anyway, you'd probably have to patch the source, and I would not recommend that.[16:59:03] <anexit> Neat, forgot about helo_checks[16:59:13] <anexit> Solved my issue with the spoofing[16:59:44] <tuxick> you found address of spammer and went over with baseball bat?[16:59:56] <tuxick> ah, i see[17:00:02] <anexit> I wish[17:00:05] <anexit> /^localhost$/ 550 Don't use my own domain (localhost)![17:00:06] <anexit> /^ideorlando.\org$/ 550 Don't use my own domain![17:00:11] <tuxick> i reject bad helo anyway[17:00:19] <tuxick> not even scoring, just go away[17:00:27] <tuxick> ooh that one[17:00:37] <anexit> /^ideorlando.\org$/ 550 Don't use my own domain![17:00:49] <rob0> uh, maybe you meant to escape the dot?[17:01:05] <anexit> This /^ideorlando.\org$/ 550 Don't use my own domain![17:01:22] <anexit> I did some test from my swedish server and it dropped the message[17:01:43] <rob0> and what if they use "EHLO mail.ideorlando.org", you don't want to block that?[17:01:59] <rob0> !regex[17:01:59] <knoba> rob0: "regex" : some people, when confronted with a problem, think i know, i'll use regular expressions. now they have two problems. (jamie zawinski)[17:02:35] <anexit> rob0: no point, postfix sits in front of our exchange 2013 farm[17:02:48] <anexit> user authenticate with activesync[17:03:15] *** D-Boy has quit IRC[17:03:26] <anexit> Might be an issue if the email server was running dovecot[17:04:49] <rob0> You're confusing me. Anyway, what does the "\o" syntax mean?[17:05:10] <anexit> .org[17:05:20] *** toothe has joined #postfix[17:05:52] <anexit> match ideorlando.org[17:06:25] <rob0> uh, maybe you meant to escape the dot?[17:06:47] <anexit> I'm lost[17:06:58] <patdk-wk> what is a \o[17:07:03] <tuxick> \o/[17:07:19] <patdk-wk> oh, you have to escape tld's now?[17:07:35] <tuxick> syria tld ;p[17:07:59] *** pylearner has joined #postfix[17:08:01] <anexit> I would imagine /o means turn on[17:08:09] <anexit> did I use this somewhere?[17:08:20] <patdk-wk> you posted it like 3 times[17:08:39] <anexit> what?[17:08:52] <anexit> I don't see it[17:08:56] <patdk-wk> <anexit> /^ideorlando.\org$/ 550 Don't use my own domain![17:09:26] *** D-Boy has joined #postfix[17:09:32] <anexit> wasn't posting here[17:09:40] <anexit> because of /[17:09:47] <anexit> sorry for the duplicates[17:09:54] <patdk-wk> but, better would be, /^(.*\.)?ideorlando\.org$/[17:10:11] <toothe> is there any way to setup an email list using postfix?[17:10:19] <toothe> or do I need a separate add-on?[17:10:21] <patdk-wk> aliases :)[17:10:25] <tuxick> or mailman[17:10:30] <toothe> that can resend to multiple users?[17:10:31] *** pylearner1 has quit IRC[17:10:35] <tuxick> or mlmmj[17:10:50] <tuxick> sure you want mailing list?[17:10:55] <tuxick> or just outgoing?[17:11:10] <tuxick> quite a difference[17:11:21] <toothe> pardon?[17:11:43] <toothe> meaning, if I email "listserv-123 at mydomain dot com", it resends to a few users.[17:11:45] <anexit> patdk-wk: that would block *.domain.org[17:11:52] <toothe> and if anyone sends to listserv-123 at mydomain dot com, it auto-sends to a few users.[17:12:26] <patdk-wk> axisys, no it wouldn't[17:12:36] <tuxick> that could still be done with aliases[17:12:38] <rob0> Aliases can expand to multiple addresses, but even in small situations you might be better off with a real MLM, like Mailman.[17:12:57] <patdk-wk> it would block only *.ideorlando.org[17:13:08] <patdk-wk> why do you think it would block *.domain.org?[17:13:28] <anexit> so specific[17:13:33] <patdk-wk> heh?[17:13:38] <anexit> Yes *.ideorlando.org[17:13:44] <patdk-wk> blocking is suppose to be random?[17:14:08] <patdk-wk> well, isn't that the whole point, Don't use my own domain?[17:14:46] <anexit> haha[17:15:02] <anexit> fair enough[17:17:56] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[17:19:36] *** darkavenger is now known as darkavenger_afk[17:22:48] *** ogny has quit IRC[17:26:21] *** fzirngibl has quit IRC[17:33:29] *** joules has quit IRC[17:35:18] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[17:36:36] *** epretorious has joined #postfix[17:36:47] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[17:44:16] *** yosafbridge has joined #postfix[17:44:27] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[17:53:11] *** linkedinyou has quit IRC[18:00:40] *** joules has joined #postfix[18:02:07] *** lrea has left #postfix[18:16:01] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[18:25:16] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[18:37:26] *** mikecmpbll has quit IRC[18:45:27] *** leeyaa has quit IRC[19:00:35] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[19:01:47] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[19:03:52] *** Xenoth has joined #postfix[19:07:40] *** LaBliMo has joined #postfix[19:14:01] *** skweek has quit IRC[19:15:39] *** mikecmpbll has joined #postfix[19:17:23] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[19:19:56] *** bjoe2k4_ is now known as bjoe2k4[19:25:36] *** cesurasean has quit IRC[19:26:42] *** skweek has joined #postfix[19:26:57] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[19:51:27] *** Amkei has joined #postfix[19:55:05] *** moonpunter has joined #postfix[19:55:21] *** skweek has quit IRC[19:56:44] *** moonpunter has quit IRC[19:56:44] *** moonpunter has joined #postfix[19:57:28] *** darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger[19:57:54] <roukoswarf> postmap -q gerbil at emmie dot rouk.org pcre:/etc/postfix/smtpd_sender_login_maps_special -> bounces at emmie dot nerivon.com[19:58:11] <roukoswarf> yet rejected... " Sender address rejected: not owned by user"[19:58:27] <roukoswarf> that pcre is the only login map[20:00:05] <patdk-wk> yes, what did you expect?[20:00:29] <roukoswarf> it to work?[20:00:49] <roukoswarf> /.*/ bounces at emmie dot rouk.org <- the only line in that pcre[20:01:49] <roukoswarf> oi[20:01:59] <roukoswarf> i see whats wrong[20:02:36] <roukoswarf> how would i make it so multiple addresses can send as anything?[20:02:41] <roukoswarf> if its always first match[20:03:09] <roukoswarf> guess i could with some database disgusting hacks[20:04:04] *** gamba47 has joined #postfix[20:06:17] <patdk-wk> isn't that backwards?[20:09:38] *** epretorious has quit IRC[20:10:03] <patdk-wk> wouldn't you query bounces@, and receive the list of allowed login users? qerbil as the answer?[20:10:09] <patdk-wk> or are you doing something really really odd[20:11:06] *** epretorious has joined #postfix[20:11:31] <patdk-wk> oh, are you attempting to lockdown some listserv?[20:31:32] *** skynews has joined #postfix[20:36:10] <hydrajump> hi should the server that is running postfix have its timezone set to UTC or to the local timezone?[20:36:52] <rob0> that wouldn't matter, but clock accuracy is a good idea.[20:39:18] <roukoswarf> patdk-wk: basically what i need is, i have a database where all users are checked for who they can send as, and i need 1 exempt user[20:39:37] <roukoswarf> trying to figure out how to stick it together so i can have a catchall wildcard while still having the ability to send as self[20:39:49] <roukoswarf> both of them are wildcards that will trigger in the same case[20:39:53] <hydrajump> rob0: ok I wasn't sure how the server time in UTC would show for each mail client, e.g. will mail clients automatically show the time as set by the user's device?[20:39:56] <roukoswarf> so... how do make them both work together[20:41:31] <rob0> Mail clients write their own Date: headers.[20:41:43] <patdk-wk> roukoswarf, that depends on what *user*[20:41:57] <patdk-wk> are you talking the mail from user? or the login user?[20:42:13] <patdk-wk> and remember, first match wins, on regex tables[20:42:15] *** NightMonkey has joined #postfix[20:42:53] <roukoswarf> patdk-wk: i have bounces at emmie dot nerivon.com that needs ability to send as anything[20:43:10] <roukoswarf> and i have every other user that needs to follow normal rule mapping[20:43:37] <patdk-wk> well, the problem is, that regex will match everything[20:43:57] <patdk-wk> so the only real option there, is to use that last, and manually ad bounces@ to every other line before it[20:44:06] <rob0> roukoswarf, you know that the "user" in that map file is the SASL username?[20:44:40] <roukoswarf> yeah, i have a postgres db with the list of possible senders, the issue is to allow users to send as themselves, i need a regex[20:44:43] <hydrajump> rob0: thank you[20:44:49] <roukoswarf> or a COALESC on the database[20:44:59] <rob0> The lookup key is an email address, the result is a comma-delimited list of SASL usernames.[20:45:07] <patdk-wk> ya, if your using a db, don't double duty it with regex, it makes a mess[20:45:07] <roukoswarf> wait[20:45:17] <roukoswarf> it can take a comma list?/[20:45:19] <roukoswarf> hm[20:45:25] <patdk-wk> sure, or space, or whatever[20:45:45] <rob0> result_format = %s,superuser[20:46:13] <roukoswarf> i could just strap it into the db query...[20:46:36] <roukoswarf> return db result+%s+superuser[20:47:11] <patdk-wk> or add an exception before the sasl login match rule[20:47:16] <patdk-wk> that says that is ok[20:47:22] <patdk-wk> so the restriction is ignored[20:47:29] <roukoswarf> how would i do that?[20:47:30] <patdk-wk> many ways to solve it[20:48:46] *** MinetestForFun has quit IRC[20:58:47] *** micah has joined #postfix[20:59:26] <micah> alias_maps supposed to be applied before luser_relay is triggered, right?[21:05:07] *** Oreoo has joined #postfix[21:09:15] *** Amkei has quit IRC[21:16:01] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[21:17:23] *** irctc748 has joined #postfix[21:17:58] *** dstarh has joined #postfix[21:23:11] *** moonpunter has quit IRC[21:23:32] *** TyrfingMjolnir has quit IRC[21:24:42] *** [NoClan]GoAway has quit IRC[21:25:01] *** TyrfingMjolnir has joined #postfix[21:26:35] *** asterismo_m has joined #postfix[21:29:57] *** Oreoo has quit IRC[21:31:21] *** irctc748 has quit IRC[21:36:53] *** MinetestForFun has joined #postfix[21:36:58] *** [NoClan]GoAway has joined #postfix[21:37:02] *** w0ls0n has joined #postfix[21:38:47] <w0ls0n> having been a longtime qmail user ... I have decided to look at postfix. ANy ideas where to start reading?[21:46:19] *** darkavenger is now known as darkavenger_afk[21:51:23] *** micah has left #postfix[21:52:47] <rob0> !tell w0ls0n basic[21:52:47] <knoba> w0ls0n: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[21:52:52] <rob0> !tell w0ls0n docs[21:52:53] <knoba> w0ls0n: "docs" : Postfix documentation http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html[22:00:32] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:05:13] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:19:02] *** TAARs has quit IRC[22:21:43] *** TAARs has joined #postfix[22:31:00] *** asterismo_m2 has joined #postfix[22:31:10] *** skynews has quit IRC[22:32:36] *** asterismo_m has quit IRC[22:41:45] *** asterismo_m2 has quit IRC[22:49:22] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[22:49:49] *** dominic1134 has joined #postfix[22:51:50] *** Haudegen has quit IRC[22:52:23] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[22:55:48] *** wiuempe has quit IRC[22:56:02] *** wmp has joined #postfix[22:56:11] *** LaBliMo has quit IRC[22:56:18] *** L235 has quit IRC[22:56:19] *** wmp is now known as Guest70264[22:57:29] *** irctc407 has joined #postfix[22:57:58] *** L235 has joined #postfix[22:58:29] *** asterismo_m has joined #postfix[23:01:05] *** Haudegen has joined #postfix[23:01:39] *** irctc407 has quit IRC[23:03:22] *** FinboySlick has quit IRC[23:06:41] *** googlah_ has quit IRC[23:07:13] *** googlah has joined #postfix[23:08:51] *** asterismo_m2 has joined #postfix[23:10:23] *** asterismo_m has quit IRC[23:12:02] *** googlah has quit IRC[23:18:46] *** googlah has joined #postfix[23:19:03] *** dstarh has quit IRC[23:21:11] *** asterismo_m2 has quit IRC[23:30:35] *** pti-jean_ has quit IRC[23:32:56] *** Guest70264 has left #postfix[23:45:12] *** asterismo_m has joined #postfix[23:50:21] *** linkedinyou has joined #postfix[23:58:01] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[23:59:46] *** linkedinyou has quit IRC