June 25, 2013 
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June 25, 2013 [00:02:35] *** z1mme has quit IRC[00:05:09] *** z1mme has joined #postfix[00:07:55] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[00:12:34] *** hays_ has joined #postfix[00:13:06] *** hays has quit IRC[00:13:09] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[00:15:38] *** e66 has joined #postfix[00:15:42] *** Dessa has quit IRC[00:16:04] *** Dessa has joined #postfix[00:16:17] <e66> how can I configure my mail server so only one single user will log into it and send mail as ANYNAME at MYDOMAIN dot TLD[00:16:28] *** Dessa has quit IRC[00:16:28] *** Dessa has joined #postfix[00:16:41] *** danblack has joined #postfix[00:18:02] <Zerberus> don't crosspost[00:18:48] *** mibofra has quit IRC[00:21:09] *** jarif has quit IRC[00:21:14] *** krisfremen has joined #postfix[00:21:14] *** krisfremen has joined #postfix[00:21:53] *** biggimat has quit IRC[00:23:38] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[00:25:39] *** mr_daniel has quit IRC[00:25:40] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[00:30:59] <e66> Zerberus: I am not sure where to post it. First posted on #linux but no help. Then post here.[00:31:48] <Zerberus> you have asked the same time here and in #sendmail[00:33:49] <e66> Yea[00:35:51] *** aindilis` has quit IRC[00:50:35] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[00:56:58] *** yofun has joined #postfix[00:57:41] <yofun> ello i get postsuper: fatal: scan_dir_push: open directory defer: Permission denied when running postfix start (and check) how do i solve this?[01:07:12] <yofun> alos chown: cannot access `/usr/lib/postfix/dict_cdb.so': No such file or directory[01:12:17] <Zerberus> yofun: looks like time to reinstall postfix from your package manager[01:16:18] *** aarcane has quit IRC[01:17:19] <yofun> remove then install?[01:17:27] <yofun> if so i just did that[01:18:22] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[01:32:16] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:37:11] *** huma has quit IRC[01:40:48] *** whoami has quit IRC[01:45:20] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[01:45:37] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[01:47:00] *** whoami has joined #postfix[01:53:54] *** shinao1__ has quit IRC[02:13:11] *** Ulver has quit IRC[02:17:21] *** danblack has quit IRC[02:19:59] *** Ulver has joined #postfix[02:21:50] *** grknight has joined #postfix[02:22:55] *** danblack has joined #postfix[02:32:56] *** causasui has quit IRC[02:38:53] *** Phoenixz has quit IRC[02:45:52] *** hadifarnoud has joined #postfix[02:46:30] <hadifarnoud> I have 4269 Requests in mailq. I have no idea how they come in my server. I'm not a relay. must be a script? how can I identify it?[02:47:23] <danblack> hadifarnoud use postcat to look at the contents of the message and the mail logs to see where they came from.[02:47:25] <rob0> Are they spams?[02:47:34] <hadifarnoud> yeah rob0. almost all of em[02:48:04] <rob0> Stop Postfix first. They're probably still coming in, and you do NOT need to be sending them out.[02:48:33] <rob0> The "almost" will make this much more difficult.[02:49:25] <hadifarnoud> there are alot of system alert mails in queue[02:49:44] <hadifarnoud> not important[02:49:54] <rob0> oh good.[02:50:20] <rob0> As danblack said, identify where at least ONE of the spams came in.[02:51:05] * Patrickdk guesses magic[02:51:13] *** sep has quit IRC[02:52:00] <rob0> grep maillog for the queue ID, find the first instance. Make a pastebin of it if you want, but we don't need to see all the postfix/smtp\[*. rejection messages.[02:52:14] <rob0> !relevant_logs[02:52:14] <knoba> rob0: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[02:56:03] <hadifarnoud> rob0: seems like all of them were queued during the time network route was not set[02:57:03] <rob0> hmm[02:57:15] <hadifarnoud> I had a lot of spam before. looks like all of them are system alert emails now. still too many of them. generated by psad. I thought spams came back[02:57:46] <hadifarnoud> must be safe to delete them all. right?[02:58:08] <rob0> That's a question only you can answer. :)[02:58:39] <rob0> But if there are no spams in queue, and none flooding in, it should be safe to let Postfix run again. :)[02:59:27] <hadifarnoud> :) cheers rob0. this channel is awesome. I always got answer quickly[03:00:46] <rob0> !postsuper[03:00:47] <knoba> rob0: "postsuper" : the queue supervision tool for postfix. Use it with the option "-d" to remove mails from the queue. See 'man postsuper' for more information.[03:08:48] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[03:24:31] *** stljim has quit IRC[03:26:56] *** tombar has quit IRC[03:29:51] *** jumperboy has quit IRC[03:34:59] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[03:48:53] <yofun> http://pastebin.com/618q2MrR can anyone tell me how to solve this?[03:50:16] <rob0> No, but I can make a few good guesses.[03:51:27] <adaptr> and it's nto even wednesday yet![03:51:29] <rob0> "private/auth" is probably your Dovecot SASL socket. "Connection refused" probably means it isn't running/listening on that socket.[03:51:48] <adaptr> or he has set the wrong permissions for the socket in dovecot[03:51:53] <adaptr> (it happens)[03:52:08] <rob0> Also, it's poor practice to have SASL enabled on port 25.[03:52:20] <adaptr> the permissions should be 0660 if postfix belongs to the same group as the socket. 0666 otherwise[03:58:59] <adaptr> oh noes, I'm giving dovecot advice AGAIN.[03:59:36] <yofun> well how do i check if its listening on that socket?[03:59:59] <adaptr> ...does it exist ?[04:00:06] <yofun> i mean whats the config for it[04:00:14] * yofun is a noob[04:00:28] <adaptr> you can anser my question[04:00:51] <yofun> does the socket exist? probbaly not?[04:01:42] <yofun> so how do i add it?[04:02:07] *** hadifarnoud has quit IRC[04:02:30] <adaptr> just answer the question, please[04:03:08] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[04:03:09] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[04:03:27] <rob0> !sasl[04:03:27] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[04:03:55] <rob0> ^^ has a good section on how to enable Dovecot SASL, including dovecot.conf parts[04:04:00] <yofun> is that correct ? http://pastebin.com/scNxZNba[04:04:08] * yofun clicks[04:05:35] <yofun> root@frenzic:/var/spool/postfix/private# postconf -a cyrus dovecot[04:05:47] <yofun> that means im good for that part right?[04:18:07] <adaptr> just follow the instructions in the SASL_README[04:27:03] *** nubianz has joined #postfix[04:28:59] *** BeepDog has quit IRC[04:33:42] *** BeepDog has joined #postfix[04:33:45] *** BeepDog has joined #postfix[04:48:37] *** e66 has quit IRC[04:48:48] *** e66 has joined #postfix[05:02:19] *** stljim has joined #postfix[05:04:08] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[05:04:23] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[05:05:19] *** yofun has quit IRC[05:14:14] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[05:30:15] *** higuita has quit IRC[05:33:38] *** higuita has joined #postfix[05:41:10] *** grknight has quit IRC[06:00:28] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[06:01:04] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[06:11:56] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:13:44] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:17:43] *** danblack has quit IRC[06:30:54] *** danblack has joined #postfix[07:04:00] *** nubianz has quit IRC[07:04:43] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[07:09:17] *** Cromulent|2 has joined #postfix[07:13:01] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[07:14:02] *** Cromulent|2 has quit IRC[07:18:54] *** internat has joined #postfix[07:22:57] <stljim>[07:23:14] <stljim> !welcome[07:23:15] <knoba> stljim: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[07:23:37] <stljim> !debug[07:23:37] <knoba> stljim: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[07:35:37] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[08:34:16] *** sep has joined #postfix[08:54:24] *** cilly has quit IRC[08:56:06] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:05:51] *** stljim has quit IRC[09:06:17] *** stljim has joined #postfix[09:07:43] *** danblack has quit IRC[09:16:30] *** stljim has quit IRC[09:18:37] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[09:23:17] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[09:37:14] *** slune has joined #postfix[09:37:34] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[09:43:45] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[09:43:54] *** _marix has quit IRC[09:49:14] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[09:50:05] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:50:05] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:52:34] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[09:56:15] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[10:01:27] *** _marix has joined #postfix[10:01:48] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[10:03:52] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[10:12:48] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[10:27:57] *** jarif has joined #postfix[10:34:34] *** chris_ has joined #postfix[10:37:46] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[10:41:00] *** cetanu has joined #postfix[10:49:33] *** batteur has quit IRC[10:50:14] *** pajamian has joined #postfix[10:52:01] *** pj has quit IRC[10:52:38] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[10:53:55] *** pajamian is now known as pj[11:00:07] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[11:00:40] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[11:06:59] *** chris_ has quit IRC[11:08:37] *** danblack has joined #postfix[11:11:00] *** mechanicalduck_ has joined #postfix[11:11:55] *** batteur has joined #postfix[11:13:12] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[11:15:44] *** mechanicalduck_ is now known as mechanicalduck[11:22:24] *** mechanicalduck_ has joined #postfix[11:24:24] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[11:24:42] *** mechanicalduck_ is now known as mechanicalduck[11:24:51] *** danblack has quit IRC[11:27:17] *** z1mme has quit IRC[11:27:56] *** Selfarian has joined #postfix[11:28:02] <Selfarian> Hi.[11:28:50] <Selfarian> I'm running postfix with spamassassin. Maybe you could tell me if spamassassin is checking per default only inbound mails, or outbound mails, too?[11:29:56] *** z1mme has joined #postfix[11:30:30] <Selfarian> e.g. i defined mailforwards in my virtual_aliases file and want to know if the spamfilter works for those, too[11:30:38] *** batteur has quit IRC[11:33:03] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[11:33:04] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[11:33:24] <UQlev> Selfarian: default SA is bidirectional[11:33:52] <UQlev> Selfarian: .. if you use amavisd-new[11:33:52] <Selfarian> okay[11:35:50] <UQlev> in order to exempt outward mail from scanning you should use special tricks[11:36:54] <Selfarian> no, i want to scan both ways... i'm asking, because i get often black listet by "t-online"[11:37:43] <Selfarian> i'm not using amavisd, only postfix with dovecot and spamassassin[11:39:29] <UQlev> Selfarian: you should use some tool to scan via SA, is it milter or something else?[11:39:29] <Selfarian> would you suggest to use amavist-new, too?[11:39:54] <UQlev> postfix can't talk directly with SA[11:43:39] <Selfarian> hm :/ i'm unsure ... it's some time ago since i configured it... is there a way to find it out?[11:43:44] <jelly-home> once upon a time there used to be a spamassassin milter, who knows what happened with that[11:44:37] <jelly-home> Selfarian: uh, check your postfix configuration for a start?[11:44:46] <UQlev> Selfarian: pastebin "postconf -n" and "postconf -Mf"[11:48:01] <Selfarian> http://pastebin.com/3WpQbSaM[11:48:50] <Selfarian> did you mean postconf -m? -Mf doesn't wor[11:48:51] <Selfarian> k[11:51:32] <UQlev> Selfarian: -M Show master.cf file contents instead of main.cf file contents. Specify -Mf to fold long lines for human readability.[11:52:00] <UQlev> Selfarian: you might have earlier postfix version[11:53:37] <UQlev> Selfarian: pastebin master.cf, I can't see any traces of amavisd yet[11:54:04] <UQlev> Selfarian: may be you are using dovecot plugin[11:54:26] <Selfarian> it's 2.7.1[11:55:23] <UQlev> 2.7.1 is not very fresh[11:56:25] <Selfarian> http://pastebin.com/WnzhUfYe[11:56:45] <Selfarian> it's the version of the squeeze apt-repository[12:00:55] <UQlev> Selfarian: it is unusual for me I can see only SA for smtp service via spamc[12:01:37] <UQlev> I can't find scan for smtpd[12:02:09] <Selfarian> okay :/ damn.. maybe it was a bad tutorial[12:02:19] <UQlev> Selfarian: does this server receive any mail?[12:02:39] <Selfarian> yes[12:02:44] <Selfarian> receiving and sending[12:02:59] <Selfarian> and spamassassin works for received mails[12:03:28] <Selfarian> it sets the subject [spam ...] and the x-spam (or similar) header flag[12:06:17] <UQlev> Selfarian: unfortunately I am not familiar with this configuration, may be it was in use some years ago[12:06:30] <Selfarian> okay[12:06:39] <Selfarian> so... i suggested to do an dist-upgrade[12:07:17] <Selfarian> so then postfix should be upgraded to 2.9.6-2[12:07:40] <UQlev> Selfarian: don't do it blindly on a production server[12:07:56] <UQlev> your server can stop working[12:08:19] <Selfarian> i'll do a snapshot before :)[12:09:43] <Selfarian> so if there's a problem, i could simply roll back. it's a vm[12:26:01] *** tmus has joined #postfix[12:29:19] <tmus> any way to rewrite target IP address to new target IP address?[12:30:29] *** danblack has joined #postfix[12:33:46] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[12:35:59] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[12:52:21] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[12:52:25] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[12:52:49] *** err-or has quit IRC[12:55:31] *** knight_ has joined #postfix[12:56:31] *** tmus has quit IRC[12:57:32] *** knight_ has joined #postfix[12:57:56] *** UQlev has quit IRC[12:58:10] *** knight_ has quit IRC[12:58:47] *** kaamii has joined #postfix[13:01:21] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[13:02:45] <kaamii> hi all[13:03:36] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[13:03:38] <kaamii> i need some help to configure my own email server using postfix on centos 6.4[13:03:52] *** err-or has joined #postfix[13:04:50] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[13:04:58] <kaamii> i wana know how to configur ISP style email server using postfix on centos[13:05:34] <kaamii> please help me or guide some notes about topics[13:06:32] <kaamii> which doc can fullfill my requirment???[13:07:06] <kaamii> anyone would reply[13:07:09] <kaamii> ?????[13:07:19] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[13:07:22] <pj> kaamii: it's not that easy[13:07:26] <pj> start here...[13:07:28] <pj> !basic[13:07:29] <knoba> pj: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[13:07:43] <kaamii> i have an idea[13:08:03] <kaamii> i have configure local mail[13:08:42] <kaamii> i wana ask i need dovecot to do this??[13:09:15] <pj> dovecot is an IMAP server, you will most likely want IMAP access, so yes.[13:09:34] <kaamii> and what about couirer[13:09:53] <pj> courier is another IMAP server, I recommend dovecot.[13:10:21] <kaamii> look i need i can able to host some virtual email domains and some users in domain[13:10:56] <kaamii> means domain1.com,domain2.com and so on[13:11:19] <pj> !tell kaamii virtual[13:11:19] <knoba> kaamii: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[13:11:19] <kaamii> all virtual domain host in my postfix server[13:11:43] <kaamii> yes yes exactly[13:13:35] <kaamii> if i have static public ip address then my postfix server will be avilable from world??[13:13:56] <pj> not necessarily[13:14:04] <pj> !tell kaamii port_25_block[13:14:04] <knoba> kaamii: "port_25_block" : Many consumer-grade ISPs (and some which claim to be for business, such as Godaddy) block outbound port 25/tcp traffic to prevent abuse from their network. If your ISP does this, you should see the !basic and !relayhost factoids. Or, upgrade to business-class service (or change ISP if you already had it.)[13:14:57] <kaamii> how will i know this?[13:15:11] <pj> test it[13:15:18] <kaamii> how??[13:15:30] <pj> try to telnet to anothger mail server from yours[13:15:41] <pj> !telnet[13:15:41] <knoba> pj: "telnet" : Have you tried to reach your mail server from outside your local network? Try telnet <server> 25 and see if you get Connected to... . See also: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/SMTP,_testing_via_Telnet[13:16:22] <kaamii> yes i have idea about telneting[13:17:32] <kaamii> ok if i m able to telnet port 25 localy and unable from outside then its mean isp block port 25??[13:17:54] <buki> check iptables[13:17:54] <kaamii> it is like that??[13:18:01] <pj> re-read what I said[13:18:26] <buki> and please get some idea about how unix-like servers, networks, etc. work[13:18:28] <kaamii> i have allow port 25 and 110 in iptables[13:18:59] <pj> you will end up needing more ports than that.[13:19:02] <kaamii> i have idea[13:19:13] <pj> but the port 25 block has to do with outbound email[13:19:31] <pj> there is also this...[13:19:37] <pj> !fcrdns[13:19:38] <knoba> pj: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[13:19:49] <kaamii> i just ask if i can telnet my postfix server on port smtp and pop3 via localnet[13:21:09] <kaamii> and my telnet failed via outside then what does it mean it will isp problem or iptables rule??[13:22:05] <kaamii> keep in mind i have configure smtp and pop3 in INPUT FORWARD and OUTPUT chins[13:23:09] <kaamii> and i m able to telnet my postfix server both smtp and pop3[13:23:16] <kaamii> locally[13:24:23] <pj> I have to go[13:24:47] <kaamii> ok thanks anyways for help[13:26:54] *** pluesch0r has joined #postfix[13:27:40] <kaamii> need some advance help about postfix[13:27:48] *** danblack has quit IRC[13:27:59] <kaamii> where should i go?[13:28:57] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[13:29:13] <pluesch0r> hi everybody. i'm running postfix 2.9.6 over here. i've written a custom delivery-command (think: mailing list) that i use to store messages in users mailboxes. unfortunately, my script gets killed after ~15 minutes and i'm not able to shove the mail into each mailbox available. i've set ipc_timeout and command_time_limit to 7200s; it's still happening. what am i possibly missing?[13:30:01] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[13:32:56] *** kaamii has quit IRC[13:34:20] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[13:34:45] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[13:36:43] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[13:37:11] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[13:43:01] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[13:43:29] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[13:43:57] *** slune has quit IRC[13:51:42] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[13:54:03] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[13:55:02] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[13:58:21] *** tharkun has quit IRC[14:00:55] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:02:46] *** ced117 has quit IRC[14:03:49] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[14:08:49] *** err-or has quit IRC[14:14:08] *** e-ndy has quit IRC[14:15:32] *** grknight has joined #postfix[14:30:15] *** pluesch0r has quit IRC[14:30:23] *** cetanu has quit IRC[14:40:35] *** soa2ii has joined #postfix[14:41:47] <soa2ii> Hi. I just found out that my parents seem to open a lot of connections to my imap server. I found those lines in the log http://pastebin.com/sxfJXGa8 Do you think it looks like my server is sending spam? Can I somehow find out which user caused those lines?[14:42:34] <lunaphyte_> connections to my imap server?[14:43:02] <lunaphyte_> for help with your imap software, you'd want to join the channel for that software[14:44:25] <soa2ii> lunaphyte_: Of course. This is just the reason why I found those lines …[14:44:57] <lunaphyte_> i see[14:45:11] <lunaphyte_> that tiny log snippit doesn't really offer much info[14:45:18] <patdk-wk_> so you sent a bounce[14:45:23] <patdk-wk_> where is the rest of the log for that email?[14:45:24] <lunaphyte_> looks like a bounce[14:45:47] <soa2ii> lunaphyte_: But my Server tried to send this mail, didn't it? Can I find out which user tried to send this mail?[14:45:57] <soa2ii> Or did I bounce this mail back?[14:46:13] <patdk-wk_> how should we know? need logs[14:47:14] <soa2ii> patdk-wk_: What do you need? AFAIK is this everything I can provide concerning this transfer[14:47:34] <patdk-wk_> I didn't say anything about *this transfer*[14:47:44] <patdk-wk_> find the original email that caused the bounce email to be created[14:48:20] <soa2ii> patdk-wk_: How would I do that?[14:48:31] <patdk-wk_> grep 3AB6D1E4033[14:50:26] <soa2ii> patdk-wk_: http://pastebin.com/JJKxwRk4 here :-)[14:51:17] <patdk-wk_> now grep 49D101E4032[14:51:41] *** cilly has quit IRC[14:51:58] <patdk-wk_> why can't people figure this out themselfs?[14:52:36] <Selfarian> ok... puh... upgrade done :)[14:53:10] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[14:53:21] <soa2ii> patdk-wk_: First time I analyze the mail.log[14:53:28] <soa2ii> It's just a small private server[14:53:36] *** cilly has joined #postfix[14:53:36] <soa2ii> http://pastebin.com/e0LttNRK this is my log concerning the new ID[14:55:07] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[14:55:10] *** grknight has quit IRC[14:55:10] <soa2ii> So my mail was forearded by my server but dismissed from gmail?[14:55:32] *** grknight has joined #postfix[14:57:58] <soa2ii> Is this now some kind of endless bounce queue or can I just ignore that?[15:18:27] *** batteur has joined #postfix[15:20:25] *** telmich has joined #postfix[15:20:26] <telmich> good day[15:21:25] <telmich> I've created a /etc/aliases file, run postalias on it ; when trying to send a mail to root, which I configured as root: my at elsewhere dot com, I get the message "mail for zahnfee.denteo.ch loops back to myself"[15:21:31] <telmich> anyone a pointer on what I may be doing wrong?[15:22:15] <lunaphyte_> i guess you didn't tell postfix that it's responsible for zahnfee.denteo.ch[15:22:29] <lunaphyte_> that's all covered in the docs which the author includes with the software[15:22:45] <lunaphyte_> basic_readme, etc[15:23:53] *** bungalo has joined #postfix[15:25:23] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[15:26:28] <telmich> lunaphyte_: 100 points - changed mydestination before[15:26:33] <telmich> lunaphyte_: thanks a lot[15:29:24] <lunaphyte_> you're welcome[15:45:52] *** tharkun has quit IRC[15:45:52] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[15:57:04] *** Phoenixz has joined #postfix[15:58:21] *** Selfarian has quit IRC[15:58:25] *** ferai has joined #postfix[16:00:16] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[16:00:19] *** Uninstall_ has joined #postfix[16:00:28] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[16:00:31] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[16:04:16] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[16:06:32] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[16:07:28] *** nihe_ has joined #postfix[16:07:44] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:10:02] *** mechanicalduck_ has joined #postfix[16:11:47] *** Kamal_ has quit IRC[16:11:49] *** Uninstall has quit IRC[16:11:49] *** Verilium has quit IRC[16:11:50] *** nihe has quit IRC[16:11:50] *** alexbst has quit IRC[16:11:54] *** jefferai has quit IRC[16:11:55] *** sp00kz has quit IRC[16:11:56] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[16:11:57] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[16:13:12] *** tolkor has quit IRC[16:13:35] *** tolkor has joined #postfix[16:15:30] *** mechanicalduck__ has joined #postfix[16:16:17] *** mechanicalduck_ has quit IRC[16:16:39] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[16:16:39] *** Kamal_ has joined #postfix[16:16:40] *** Verilium has joined #postfix[16:16:40] *** alexbst has joined #postfix[16:16:40] *** sp00kz has joined #postfix[16:22:55] *** mechanicalduck__ has quit IRC[16:23:44] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:27:10] *** VaNNi has quit IRC[16:27:28] *** higuita has quit IRC[16:28:47] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[16:29:55] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[16:29:57] *** higuita has joined #postfix[16:30:16] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[16:30:52] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[16:30:58] *** Kamal_ has quit IRC[16:31:00] *** Verilium has quit IRC[16:31:00] *** alexbst has quit IRC[16:31:01] *** sp00kz has quit IRC[16:31:02] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[16:33:22] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[16:35:38] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[16:35:38] *** Kamal_ has joined #postfix[16:35:39] *** Verilium has joined #postfix[16:35:39] *** alexbst has joined #postfix[16:35:39] *** sp00kz has joined #postfix[16:36:05] *** shwaiil has joined #postfix[16:36:13] <shwaiil> hi[16:37:00] <shwaiil> When installing postfix for the first time we get the wizard. Is this the same as /var/postfix/main.cf ? Tks[16:37:38] <thumbs> shwaiil: postfix doesn't provide a wizard.[16:37:49] <thumbs> shwaiil: if this is a distro script, you should ask them about it.[16:38:30] <shwaiil> thumbs: thanks for looking! Ok, I guess it's the case since I'm using 12.04 ubuntu.[16:39:03] <shwaiil> In my logs I found low <root@http (in reply to MAIL FROM command)), so I guess there's a typo in the config file, but can't find any issues under main.cf[16:39:14] <shwaiil> is there any other conf file for postfix ?[16:40:04] <thumbs> shwaiil: see postconf -n[16:40:10] <shwaiil> thanks : )[16:40:27] *** VaNNi has joined #postfix[16:41:11] *** s0ber_ has joined #postfix[16:41:38] <shwaiil> I get the params I've set in the main.cf[16:42:46] *** Ahti333_ has joined #postfix[16:42:57] *** rob0__ has joined #postfix[16:42:57] *** rob0__ has joined #postfix[16:44:45] *** abyss_ has joined #postfix[16:44:57] *** jarif has quit IRC[16:45:20] *** diabel- has joined #postfix[16:48:08] <shwaiil> I've removed the package and then reinstalled is now working. Thanks for your time thumbs, you are always helping, sorry : )[16:48:12] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[16:49:15] *** FUF_ has joined #postfix[16:49:17] *** hurtigbuffer has joined #postfix[16:49:18] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[16:49:31] *** s0ber has quit IRC[16:49:31] *** jelly-home has quit IRC[16:49:32] *** diabel has quit IRC[16:49:33] *** jimpop has quit IRC[16:49:37] *** abyss has quit IRC[16:49:37] *** Ahti333 has quit IRC[16:49:38] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[16:49:38] *** on1ald has quit IRC[16:49:40] *** badiane has quit IRC[16:49:41] *** FUF has quit IRC[16:49:41] *** synapt has quit IRC[16:49:42] *** s0ber_ is now known as s0ber[16:50:18] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[16:50:19] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[16:50:21] *** tabakhase has quit IRC[16:50:36] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[16:50:51] *** tolkor has quit IRC[16:50:51] *** fasta has quit IRC[16:50:56] *** sven_oostenbrink has joined #postfix[16:51:00] *** Phoenixz has quit IRC[16:51:02] *** fasta has joined #postfix[16:51:11] *** tolkor has joined #postfix[16:51:31] *** necrogami has quit IRC[16:51:32] *** JC_SoCal has quit IRC[16:52:02] *** Bronze has quit IRC[16:52:03] *** Bronz_ has joined #postfix[16:52:13] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[16:52:49] *** necrogami has joined #postfix[16:52:51] *** tld has quit IRC[16:53:28] *** nutron has quit IRC[16:54:20] *** mibofra has quit IRC[16:55:15] *** nutron has joined #postfix[16:56:29] *** on1ald has joined #postfix[16:56:39] *** badiane has joined #postfix[17:00:24] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[17:02:16] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[17:02:21] *** ferai is now known as jefferai[17:06:36] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[17:06:47] *** Bronz_ is now known as BRONZE[17:06:47] *** causasui has joined #postfix[17:06:53] *** BRONZE is now known as Bronze[17:08:30] *** batteur has quit IRC[17:10:36] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[17:10:43] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:12:40] *** jumperboy has joined #postfix[17:12:40] *** jumperboy has joined #postfix[17:13:32] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[17:18:48] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[17:21:29] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:25:35] *** rob0 is now known as rob0_[17:25:43] *** rob0__ is now known as rob0[17:29:40] *** snearch has joined #postfix[17:38:32] *** jimpop has joined #postfix[17:39:18] *** ltxda_ has joined #postfix[17:39:55] *** bjoe2k4_ has joined #postfix[17:40:06] *** ltxda_ has joined #postfix[17:40:10] *** kilburn_ has joined #postfix[17:40:27] *** ltxda_ has joined #postfix[17:40:48] *** ltxda_ has joined #postfix[17:40:50] *** ltxda_ has quit IRC[17:41:35] *** ltxda_ has joined #postfix[17:42:01] *** prooz_ has joined #postfix[17:42:03] *** Tyklol has joined #postfix[17:42:10] *** Tabstar has joined #postfix[17:42:16] *** spY|da_ has joined #postfix[17:42:26] *** arnoldB_ has joined #postfix[17:42:35] *** SWAT_ has joined #postfix[17:43:12] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[17:43:13] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[17:43:27] *** spY|da_ has quit IRC[17:43:35] *** spY|da_ has joined #postfix[17:44:05] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:46:29] *** nutron has quit IRC[17:46:35] *** gencha has quit IRC[17:46:36] *** CookieNinja has quit IRC[17:46:36] *** ltxda has quit IRC[17:46:39] *** jacekowski has quit IRC[17:46:40] *** sonne has quit IRC[17:46:46] *** spY|da has quit IRC[17:46:46] *** Whoop has quit IRC[17:46:49] *** staticsafe has quit IRC[17:46:49] *** CrunchyChewie has quit IRC[17:46:50] *** kenyon has quit IRC[17:46:50] *** Nothing4You has quit IRC[17:46:51] *** milligan has quit IRC[17:46:51] *** prooz has quit IRC[17:46:52] *** Tabmow has quit IRC[17:46:54] *** arnoldB has quit IRC[17:46:54] *** twiztar has quit IRC[17:46:55] *** SWAT has quit IRC[17:46:55] *** kilburn has quit IRC[17:46:56] *** bjoe2k4 has quit IRC[17:46:56] *** jelly has quit IRC[17:46:56] *** JPT has quit IRC[17:46:57] *** Tykling has quit IRC[17:46:59] <thumbs> !submission[17:47:00] <knoba> thumbs: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[17:47:01] *** JPT_ has joined #postfix[17:47:24] *** cilly has left #postfix[17:47:35] *** twiztar has joined #postfix[17:53:10] *** nutron has joined #postfix[17:53:27] *** jelly has joined #postfix[17:53:47] *** jelly is now known as Guest10797[18:02:18] *** Guest10797 has quit IRC[18:02:36] *** Guest10797 has joined #postfix[18:04:33] <survietamine> hmm, rob0, you there ?[18:04:36] <survietamine> http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL188147[18:04:53] <survietamine> it is commented out with "2nd worst ISP..."[18:05:04] <survietamine> but it seems to be an outdated info[18:05:18] <survietamine> I cannot find iliad.fr in their current top 10[18:06:46] *** tidd has left #postfix[18:08:24] <rob0> iliad.fr was #2 when I looked yesterday, still bad, 38 open items[18:08:35] <rob0> http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings/iliad.fr[18:09:10] <survietamine> I have discussed with them[18:09:21] <survietamine> they are our hierarchically boss[18:09:45] <survietamine> and they said spamhaus is wrong they don't want to give them credits[18:09:54] <rob0> heh[18:09:54] <survietamine> I had to whitelist them[18:10:01] <survietamine> on our servers[18:10:15] <survietamine> but the mail servers around the world won't[18:10:17] <survietamine> I guess[18:10:37] <thumbs> you can't force other admins to make a unsensible decision :)[18:10:39] *** snearch has quit IRC[18:10:54] *** averagecase has joined #postfix[18:11:13] <survietamine> they told us that we are in 2013, using RBLs is stupid no brain[18:11:18] <thumbs> given that there's 38 open items, I would bloody blacklist that range too.[18:11:33] <thumbs> survietamine: well, if they're so smart, you should ask them, then.[18:11:51] <patdk-wk_> so many botnet controllers[18:11:55] <survietamine> but they didn't say how they fight spams[18:12:02] <patdk-wk_> they *don't* :)[18:12:03] <rob0> DNSBLs have brought spam under control. Spamhaus is the best of the bunch.[18:12:07] <survietamine> rob0: I have read your postscreen config[18:12:12] <thumbs> survietamine: hint: a RBL is used for specific cases.[18:12:20] <survietamine> maybe I'll try to apply something like this[18:12:49] <rob0> Tell them that stupid no brain servers around the world are taking Spanhaus' word over theirs.[18:12:54] *** gencha has joined #postfix[18:12:57] *** CookieNinja has joined #postfix[18:12:57] *** jacekowski has joined #postfix[18:12:57] *** sonne has joined #postfix[18:12:57] *** Whoop has joined #postfix[18:12:58] *** staticsafe has joined #postfix[18:12:58] *** CrunchyChewie has joined #postfix[18:12:58] *** kenyon has joined #postfix[18:12:58] *** Nothing4You has joined #postfix[18:12:58] *** milligan has joined #postfix[18:12:59] *** grknight has quit IRC[18:13:10] *** grknight has joined #postfix[18:13:21] <thumbs> survietamine: that range simply cannot be trusted, at the moment.[18:13:24] <survietamine> yeah, my personal mailboxes @free.fr are full of spams[18:14:11] <survietamine> they also restrict YouTube bandwidth in France, lol[18:14:18] <survietamine> hoping they win vs Google[18:14:37] <patdk-wk_> they?[18:14:39] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[18:14:40] <survietamine> and customers that love YT switch to another ISP[18:15:05] <survietamine> patdk-wk_: free.fr is the 3rd ISP in France[18:15:17] <survietamine> maybe 2nd now, I dunno[18:15:41] *** failure has joined #postfix[18:15:49] *** fasta_ has joined #postfix[18:16:21] *** hays has joined #postfix[18:16:22] <survietamine> and their brands online.net and dedibox.net are concurrent to OVH, a well known hosting services in France[18:16:37] <survietamine> so they have bunch of networks[18:16:43] <thumbs> and wee?[18:16:48] *** stljim has joined #postfix[18:16:53] <survietamine> and since 1 year mobile provider too[18:16:53] *** Tormin has joined #postfix[18:17:15] *** madduck_ has joined #postfix[18:17:15] *** madduck_ has joined 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s0ber has quit IRC[19:22:07] *** ced117 has quit IRC[19:22:07] *** Section1 has quit IRC[19:22:09] *** sep has quit IRC[19:22:10] *** e66 has quit IRC[19:22:14] *** TomWork has quit IRC[19:22:15] *** ds187 has quit IRC[19:22:15] *** s0ber_ is now known as s0ber[19:22:34] *** grknight1 is now known as grknight[19:25:01] *** JPT has joined #postfix[19:25:20] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[19:26:09] *** zooko has joined #postfix[19:27:05] <zooko> Hello! Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I think I'm using postfix on my laptop to relay mail to postfix on my server, and I think the server is saying that it refuses relay because the client (postfix on my laptop ??) is not authenticated. How do I configure postfix on my laptop to use a certain username and password to authenticate itself to postfix on my server?[19:27:33] <zooko> All the documents I can find talk about postfix acting as a server and authenticating clients, but none talk about postfix acting as a relay and authenticating itself as a client to a server.[19:27:40] <zooko> So, maybe that's because it's not actually doing that and I'm confused...[19:28:03] <patdk-wk_> why would you run postfix on a laptop?[19:28:15] <patdk-wk_> don't you use an email application?[19:28:54] *** on1ald has joined #postfix[19:29:09] *** sep has joined #postfix[19:29:32] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[19:29:49] *** nutron has joined #postfix[19:30:03] *** spY|da_ has left #postfix[19:30:22] <zooko> That's a good question. I don't understand what i'm doing very well. I have Ubuntu on this laptop, and my MUA is mutt, and I think mutt is just going to attempt some kind of smtp or sendmail delivery when I tell mutt to send a mail.[19:30:39] <zooko> So, I thought the way to do it was install postfix, and have that receive the attempt to send from mutt, and then relay that to my actual smtp server.[19:30:50] *** spY|da has joined #postfix[19:31:11] <patdk-wk_> well, that is easy, configure mutt correctly[19:31:27] <UQlev> zooko, do you prefere using CLI?[19:32:16] <zooko> UQlev: yes, I think I prefer mutt over alternatives that I've tried.[19:32:17] <UQlev> zooko, why do you use ubuntu then with GUI?[19:32:40] <patdk-wk_> where did he say he was using ubuntu with gui?[19:32:40] <zooko> patdk-wk_: so I configure mutt to send over smtp (with starttls) to my smtp server, and auth with a certain username+password?[19:32:42] <zooko> That sounds okay.[19:33:01] <zooko> But what about other mail-sending things on my laptop? Some things might want to send mail automatically. What will they do?[19:33:16] <patdk-wk_> what other mail sending things?[19:34:23] <UQlev> spambots[19:34:44] <zooko> Um, maybe some daemon I'm going to run is going to want to send email in order to inform me of an error.[19:34:57] <zooko> Or, for that matter, I think cron will do that if a cron job emits stdout or returns an error code or something.[19:35:13] <zooko> In general, I'd like for any code I run on this laptop to have the ability to send mail. At least to myself ...[19:35:15] <lunaphyte> you just need a null client[19:35:26] <lunaphyte> !tell zooko nullclient[19:35:26] <knoba> zooko: "nullclient" : a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[19:35:36] <lunaphyte> these days i generally recommend msmtp[19:35:57] <patdk-wk_> well, I guess he will need a nullclient with spooling support[19:36:07] <zooko> I guess I can do without that functionality for now.[19:36:15] <zooko> I'll just learn how to configure mutt to connect to my server and I'll be satisfied.[19:36:16] <zooko> Thanks![19:36:21] <lunaphyte> why a spool?[19:36:34] <patdk-wk_> incase laptop has no connectivity[19:36:45] <patdk-wk_> it is a laptop :)[19:37:10] <lunaphyte> oh[19:37:24] <zooko> Yeah, that sounds like too much work for a need that i'm not sure I really have.[19:37:41] <lunaphyte> i don't know. i bet that's nearly as much of an issue as some people might make it out to be.[19:38:15] <lunaphyte> i'd be willing to bet that most laptops have a reasonable degree of connectivity most of the time they're being used for something like that[19:38:21] <zooko> By the way, any other recommendations for keyboard-oriented local MUA's besides mutt?[19:38:38] <lunaphyte> i was always partial to pine/alpine[19:39:06] <lunaphyte> but i don't use console muas anymore.[19:39:38] <lunaphyte> i used to be hardcore never gonna use anything besides a shell for email. it just got silly eventually though.[19:41:37] <patdk-wk_> I only used pine too, till around 2008 or so[19:41:41] <patdk-wk_> now it's all phone or webmail[19:46:41] *** freezey has joined #postfix[19:55:52] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[20:00:34] <zooko> Hrm. I already have mail sitting in my queue in postfix on my laptop, that it is now repeatedly attempting to deliver, unsuccessfully, to my postfix on my server.[20:00:55] <zooko> Is there no way to teach postfix on my laptop that when it tries to relay mail to an smtp server it needs to do AUTH with a certain username+password over STARTTLS?[20:05:03] *** shwaiil has quit IRC[20:05:18] *** m1nish has quit IRC[20:05:28] *** zooko` has joined #postfix[20:06:32] *** jumperbo1 has quit IRC[20:06:50] *** jumperboy has joined #postfix[20:06:50] *** jumperboy has joined #postfix[20:07:02] *** zooko has quit IRC[20:08:14] <adaptr> of course there is[20:08:34] <adaptr> but why are you running postfix on a laptop ?[20:08:42] <adaptr> !tell zooko` nullclient[20:08:42] <knoba> zooko`: "nullclient" : a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[20:10:46] *** m1nish has joined #postfix[20:12:28] *** zooko` has quit IRC[20:12:35] *** KaiForce has quit IRC[20:18:10] *** UQlev has quit IRC[20:28:30] *** averagecase has quit IRC[20:35:04] *** yofun has joined #postfix[20:35:55] <yofun> Jun 25 14:34:24 frenzic postfix/error[2367]: 5045A7A5518: to=<fud at frenzic dot net>, relay=none, delay=0.38, delays=0.33/0/0/0.05, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)[20:36:06] <Dominian> !welcome[20:36:06] <knoba> Dominian: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[20:36:07] <yofun> what is mail transport unavailable?[20:36:51] <adaptr> exactly what it says, oddly enough[20:37:16] <yofun> well whats the issue?[20:37:23] <yofun> config issue? missiing package?[20:37:40] <Dominian> Did you read the topic?[20:38:02] <yofun> yea?[20:38:33] <yofun> the 2nd part? are you refering too?[20:42:48] <yofun> http://pastebin.com/yDsgu3Zb[20:46:17] <Dominian> Jun 25 14:40:26 frenzic postfix/qmgr[2654]: warning: private/dovecot socket: malformed response[20:46:26] <Dominian> is dovecot running?[20:46:44] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[20:46:55] <Dominian> mynetworks = frenzic[20:47:09] <Dominian> Odd nomenclature.. .although it's possible you can do that and I just am not aware[20:47:35] <yofun> yes dovecot is running[20:47:54] <adaptr> !mynetworks[20:47:54] <knoba> adaptr: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.[20:48:05] <Dominian> yofun: can I see the dovecot line in your master.cf ?[20:48:09] <adaptr> Dominian: if that is an existing hostname reachable through DNS, then it is valid ;)[20:48:25] <Dominian> adaptr: Yeah, makes sense.[20:48:34] <Dominian> I've just never done it that way[20:48:41] <adaptr> nor would any sane admin[20:48:53] <yofun> ya 184.171.167.20 frenzic.net frenzic its in my /etc/hosts[20:49:02] <Dominian> ah[20:49:05] <yofun> Dominian: which line?[20:49:15] <Dominian> yofun: master.cf the dovecot line that you had to define to use dovecot[20:49:56] <yofun> "dovecot" not found[20:50:01] <Dominian> Unless I'm missing something[20:50:09] <Dominian> oh.. you're calling the mailbox command directly[20:51:29] <adaptr> is there a pastebin with relevant logs and postconf -n ?[20:51:42] <yofun> http://pastebin.com/yDsgu3Zb[20:51:44] <yofun> yes[20:51:52] <Dominian> I call it differently[20:52:05] <Dominian> I define a transport within master.cf for dovecot, then call that via virtual_transport[20:53:07] <yofun> also i have two private paths private/auth and private/dovecot (i couldnt find private/dovecot in the configs so i added it to dovecot)[20:54:01] <yofun> is that normal or?[20:54:31] <adaptr> ...you added it why ?[20:54:41] <adaptr> Dominian: I would not use deliver at all. it's old and crotchety[20:54:55] <adaptr> yofun: you're using dovecot deliver to deliver to local mailboxes?[20:55:00] <yofun> smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth <--- i cant find the line that says private/dovecot[20:55:33] <yofun> tbh i i installed zpanel which everything worked but the mail server[20:56:01] <yofun> i have no idea if im using dovecot to deliver to local mailboxes[21:00:09] *** zooko has joined #postfix[21:00:58] * yofun gets the hint that everyone thinks i should give up[21:01:11] <Dominian> adaptr: I use virtual_transport directive with a dovecot definition in master.cf which looks like: dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=virtual:virtual argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/dovecot-lda -f ${sender} -d ${recipient}[21:01:28] <Dominian> Needed it for the sieve filtering[21:01:51] <adaptr> yofun: that is what your configuration shows.[21:02:06] <adaptr> Dominian: nonsense. you should be using LMTP[21:02:29] <yofun> adaptr: im sorry? shows what?[21:03:08] <adaptr> mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver[21:03:13] <yofun> ah[21:03:24] <adaptr> that means local(8) defers delivery to that command[21:04:00] <adaptr> and you should use LMTP for that[21:04:10] <adaptr> and set mailbox_transport instead.[21:04:19] <yofun> how do i set up lmtp?[21:04:27] <lunaphyte_> use lmtp and relay_domains[21:04:27] <adaptr> in dovecot.[21:04:35] <adaptr> lunaphyte_: um. you silly.[21:04:44] <lunaphyte_> not me[21:05:10] <adaptr> that excludes aliases(5), among other things[21:05:30] <lunaphyte_> perfect[21:05:52] * adaptr glares at luna'postrophe[21:06:11] <lunaphyte_> why would aliases be needed anyway?[21:06:22] <lunaphyte_> it's all delivered to dovecot[21:09:10] *** Cromulent has joined #postfix[21:13:01] <adaptr> I might want delivery to a command, for an MLM, or any application, relaly[21:22:03] *** pajamian has joined #postfix[21:22:50] *** batteur has joined #postfix[21:25:19] *** pj has quit IRC[21:25:40] <zooko> Sigh. Does anybody want to tell me how to configure mutt to use a username and password over tls to authenticate to my postfix server?[21:26:01] <zooko> Or, alternately, since this is the postfix channel instead of the mutt channel, tell me how to configure my postfix on my laptop to authenticate itself to postfix on my server…[21:26:48] *** SuperNull has quit IRC[21:27:18] *** ankso_ has joined #postfix[21:27:36] <adaptr> you should just use a nullclient on your laptop[21:28:05] *** Jota_B has quit IRC[21:28:55] <zooko> adaptr: that is a thing that spools up mail and later sends it to an smtp server?[21:29:08] <adaptr> not spools, no. see !nullclient[21:29:27] <adaptr> why should it spool ?[21:30:36] *** ankso has quit IRC[21:31:14] <patdk-wk_> adaptr, sending email on a plane?[21:31:26] <patdk-wk_> or otherwise without network access[21:31:35] *** digitalirony has left #postfix[21:31:40] <adaptr> I'd just have the MUA hold it[21:31:55] <patdk-wk_> not many mua's support that[21:32:07] <JPT> back in the times of dial up connections...[21:32:22] <JPT> most of the ones i know do support it[21:32:35] <patdk-wk_> sendmail command doesn't[21:32:50] <patdk-wk_> that is what mua cron is using[21:33:00] *** Motoko has quit IRC[21:37:00] *** Wamphyri has joined #postfix[21:37:09] *** Section1 has quit IRC[21:39:41] <zooko> So... postfix can't authenticate itself to a remote postfix smtp server in order to deliver (relay) email to it?[21:39:49] * zooko goes to ask a channel named "#mutt", if there is one.[21:41:01] <adaptr> as I already told you, yes, it can.[21:41:14] <adaptr> !tell zooko sasl[21:41:14] <knoba> zooko: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[21:44:32] <zooko> adaptr: I'm sorry, perhaps I missed it when I disconnected earlier.[21:44:51] <adaptr> oh, yes, you did.[21:44:53] <zooko> adaptr: but isn't that all doc there about postfix acting as a server authenticating a client which is trying to connect to it?[21:45:07] <adaptr> no, it clearly isn't.[21:45:25] <adaptr> as you'd discover if you actually read the index[21:45:31] <Wamphyri> !welcome[21:45:31] <knoba> Wamphyri: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[21:45:40] <adaptr> "enabling authentication in the postfix smtp CLIENT"[21:46:04] <zooko> adaptr: thanks.[21:46:29] <Wamphyri> !debug[21:46:30] <knoba> Wamphyri: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[21:50:32] <Wamphyri> when i try sending a email out i keep getting the email rejected, (postfix -> hotmail) if i try to send a email from hotmail to postfix it goes off to null (doesn't show up to postfix logs or hotmail[21:50:34] <Wamphyri> http://pastebin.ca/2407990[21:51:12] <Wamphyri> this is what the email says when its rejected http://pastebin.ca/2407994[21:51:34] <adaptr> !tell Wamphyri relay_denied[21:51:34] <knoba> Wamphyri: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[21:51:53] <adaptr> Wamphyri: also, don't show us non-postfix logs. they don't factor into any postfix issues[21:53:16] <Wamphyri> adaptr which is a non-postfix log?[21:53:27] <adaptr> anything without the word "postfix" in it.[21:53:28] *** jekle has joined #postfix[21:55:03] <Wamphyri> adaptr so client_ip would be my main pc ip or the server ip?[21:55:35] <adaptr> do you understand what the terms "client" and "server" mean in the context of client-server protocols ?[21:56:03] <adaptr> (which SMTp is)[21:56:08] <Wamphyri> yes, rather well i'm just trying to fixure what you mean the logs shows i authed[21:56:13] <Wamphyri> figure*[21:56:43] <adaptr> that isn't borne out by your question, though[21:56:56] <Wamphyri> its borne from your answer[21:57:05] <Wamphyri> This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH)[21:57:40] <adaptr> your claim that "yes, you understand client-server protocols rather well" isn't borne out by anything you say[21:58:21] <adaptr> the relay-denied factoid is not in doubt. it is always one of those reasons.[21:59:40] <Wamphyri> how does the mydestination work?[22:01:20] <adaptr> !mydestination[22:01:20] <knoba> adaptr: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mydestination for more information.[22:02:22] *** freezey has quit IRC[22:02:31] <yofun> whats the command to clear the queue ?[22:06:57] <adaptr> "man postsuper"[22:07:24] <adaptr> yofun: we're not big fans of handholding here. postfix conatins very complete documentation; please use this terrific resource![22:15:24] *** robinho86 has quit IRC[22:16:03] *** jimiller has joined #postfix[22:17:04] *** Aprogas_ is now known as Aprogas[22:18:51] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[22:19:01] *** Toerkeium has joined #postfix[22:19:40] *** stljim has quit IRC[22:23:21] <yofun> adaptr: ty i didnt know about postsuper[22:23:24] <yofun> know i do :P[22:30:11] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:34:00] *** zooko has quit IRC[22:41:36] *** Bronze has quit IRC[22:42:19] *** prooz_ has quit IRC[22:48:10] *** shortbus- has joined #postfix[22:49:10] *** bolt has quit IRC[22:52:05] *** bolt has joined #postfix[22:52:27] *** synapt has joined #postfix[22:52:27] *** synapt has joined #postfix[22:52:41] *** e66_ has quit IRC[22:53:02] <shortbus-> i'm trying to setup to setup a transport map for a few users to forward their email to a different server (gmail), but i'm having some issues. i added 'transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/foo.com.gmail' to my main.cf; in that file i have 'user at foo dot com smtp:aspmx.l.google.com' but it isn't working. what am i missing or doing wrong?[22:53:13] *** bolt has quit IRC[22:54:05] <adaptr> !tell shortbus- relevant_logs[22:54:05] <knoba> shortbus-: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[22:56:00] *** bolt has joined #postfix[22:56:10] <shortbus-> it almost looks like google is rejecting it, but i'm not sure. let me put the log message in a pastebin[22:56:39] <shortbus-> http://www.fpaste.org/20874/72193794/[22:56:53] *** grknight has quit IRC[22:57:36] *** zooko has joined #postfix[22:58:35] <shortbus-> we're also using a bunch of virtual_alias_maps in main.cf as well, including some for the same domain. would that cause any issues?[22:59:22] <sp00kz> that is inbound FROM google, not to google[22:59:41] <shortbus-> ah, gotcha[23:00:15] <shortbus-> my postfix skills are fairly rusty at this point, it's been a while since i've done anything like this[23:00:29] <sp00kz> you seem to have screwed up your local address lookup[23:01:48] <shortbus-> so obviously since what i tried isn't working, what's the right way to setup forwarding to gmail on a per address level?[23:02:27] <shortbus-> i've been poking around the docs on postfix.org but haven't managed to figure this out[23:03:33] <adaptr> the address <gigi at douzet dot com> is not in your virtual alias tables, yet the domain is a virtual alias domain.[23:03:47] <adaptr> do you know why ?[23:04:13] <shortbus-> yes, we are doing virutal alias for some address in that domain[23:04:22] <adaptr> no, you are not.[23:04:31] <shortbus-> well, we were before i broke it[23:04:41] <adaptr> !tell shortbus- virtual_alias_domains[23:04:41] <knoba> shortbus-: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.[23:05:02] <adaptr> shortbus-: read that for me. where it says ALL ADDRESSES, what does that suggest to you ?[23:06:18] <shortbus-> yea, all is fairly clear[23:06:39] <adaptr> excellent[23:07:15] *** wdp has quit IRC[23:11:56] <shortbus-> perhaps i'm going about this the wrong way. I'm trying ot have some address for douzet.com get forwarded to our exchange server, which currently works via virtual_alias_maps, and have gigi at douzet dot com go to gmail. how should i do that, or is it not supported?[23:12:19] <adaptr> will gmail accept that recipient ?[23:12:27] <zooko> Folks, do you have a FAQ answer for "How can I configure this postfix to relay all my mail from my SASL-authenticated client while not being an open relay for spammers?"[23:12:29] <shortbus-> yes, i already set that up[23:12:42] <zooko> Because I've been studying http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_relay_restrictions and related stuff and experimenting and I feel rather lost.[23:12:44] <adaptr> then add it to transport(5)[23:12:54] <adaptr> !relay[23:12:54] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "relay" is not a valid command.[23:12:56] <adaptr> bah[23:13:35] <zooko> The rule that smtpd_relay_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions is required to have[23:13:52] <zooko> reject_unauth_destination or something even more strict appears to forbid serving as a relay, to my untrained eye.[23:13:55] <adaptr> zooko: client connections should NOT come in (nor be allowed) on port 25[23:14:05] <zooko> No, I'm using 587.[23:14:08] <adaptr> is this postfix machine an MTA, or an MSA ?[23:14:11] <adaptr> or both[23:14:16] <zooko> I don't know the difference.[23:14:22] <adaptr> !mta[23:14:22] <knoba> adaptr: "mta" : Mail Transfer Agent: software that facilitates the transfer of mail messages between hosts[23:14:24] <adaptr> !msa[23:14:24] <knoba> adaptr: "msa" : Message Submission Agent : a process which accepts message submissions from MUAs on port 587 known as 'message submission service' using the 'message submission protocol' defined by rfc4409. To enable message submission service in postfix uncomment the relevant lines in master.cf. also see !submission.[23:14:43] <zooko> I would say it is simply the latter. It can accept and send email for my own domain, zooko.com.[23:15:07] <zooko> Oh, well since it serves as the receiving mail server for other people to mail to zooko.com then I guess it is the former.[23:15:20] <zooko> Oh, so all this smtpd stuff is for the port 25 traffic.[23:15:32] <zooko> And what I need to do is change the configuration for the port 587 traffic (which is only me from my laptop...)[23:15:58] <zooko> But you earlier told me to read http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html[23:16:12] <zooko> and that's what I've been following ever since, but now I find myself tweaking smtpd_relay_restrictions ...[23:16:13] <zooko> Hm...[23:17:00] *** Cromulent has quit IRC[23:17:19] <adaptr> zooko: correct. the commented submission example in master.cf holds the correct values. all restrictions unset, and -o smtpd_recipient_restricitons=permi_sasl_authenticated,reject.[23:17:29] <adaptr> no space in master.cf -options[23:17:31] <zooko> ah![23:17:33] <zooko> thanks[23:17:54] <adaptr> you should also set smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes in main.cf[23:18:05] <adaptr> thsi forbids plaintext SASL[23:18:06] <zooko> ok[23:18:21] <zooko> And that's all on the server.[23:19:37] <zooko> Wait, what commented submission example in master.cf?[23:21:06] <zooko> Hm, this line was already uncommented: submission inet n - - - - smtpd[23:21:06] <zooko>[23:21:44] <zooko> Hm, there are a bunch of lines after that, which *are* commented and have the options you mentioned ...[23:23:52] *** hparker has quit IRC[23:26:42] *** hparker has joined #postfix[23:29:59] *** danblack has joined #postfix[23:30:12] *** donmichelangelo has quit IRC[23:30:29] <zooko> Okay, I guess I'll bang my head against this later. My wife is waiting for me.[23:30:31] <zooko> Thanks for your help![23:30:34] *** zooko has quit IRC[23:30:40] *** donmichelangelo has joined #postfix[23:33:30] *** Guuest45818 has joined #postfix[23:34:17] <Guuest45818> Hello[23:35:54] <Guuest45818> I want to use relay_domains = $mydestination, example.com with sll[23:36:05] <Guuest45818> relay_recipient_maps =[23:36:15] <adaptr> no, you don't.[23:36:32] <adaptr> domains should be in one address class only[23:37:17] <Guuest45818> thank you adaptr. how do I get to use it with ssl?[23:37:29] <adaptr> I don't understand the question[23:37:50] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[23:38:17] <Guuest45818> waiting for ssl connection[23:38:46] <adaptr> !tell Guuest45818 welcome[23:38:46] <knoba> Guuest45818: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[23:39:50] <Guuest45818> !tell Guuest45818 welcome[23:39:51] <knoba> Guuest45818: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[23:40:01] <Guuest45818> Hi[23:40:25] <adaptr> Guuest45818: that is the /topic. you were shown it by me already, and when you joined this channel.[23:40:44] <adaptr> err !welcome message. it mentions the /topic[23:44:01] *** biggimat has quit IRC[23:44:12] <Guuest45818> postfix to accept an e mail while using ssl[23:44:15] <Wamphyri> !tell Wamphyri relay_denied[23:44:15] <knoba> Wamphyri: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[23:44:21] *** danblack has quit IRC[23:44:44] <adaptr> Guuest45818: please ask questions or at least type complete sentences. we won't be able to help you otherwise[23:46:36] <Guuest45818> i want to use postfix as backup mx with ssl/tls[23:46:53] <thumbs> you don't need a backup mx.[23:47:00] <Guuest45818> is there a manual?[23:47:11] <thumbs> you don't need a backup mx.[23:47:18] <Guuest45818> thumbs: Hi, why not?[23:47:34] <thumbs> Guuest45818: because all MTAs will retry on 5xx errors.[23:47:52] <adaptr> ...on 4xx errors.[23:48:02] <thumbs> err, 4xx, yes.[23:48:12] <thumbs> adaptr: thanks, that was a stupid typo[23:48:14] <adaptr> trout -> yo face[23:48:29] * adaptr steps daintily back[23:48:41] <adaptr> haven't seen that clip in ages.. mmm want to see[23:48:54] <Guuest45818> I have to be on just one hour a day online and then all the emails have to arrive[23:49:08] <adaptr> Guuest45818: that is not under your control.[23:49:12] <thumbs> Guuest45818: run your main server on a real connection instead.[23:50:00] <Guuest45818> what you mean with real connection ?[23:50:10] <thumbs> Guuest45818: one that doesn't die often.[23:50:34] <thumbs> Guuest45818: presumably, with a 4-9 SLA[23:51:00] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[23:51:55] <Guuest45818> But why not just run postfix as backup?[23:52:06] <thumbs> Guuest45818: because you don't need a backup mx.[23:53:03] <Guuest45818> I know it[23:53:22] <thumbs> Guuest45818: well, we won't help you with it here - you don't need a backup mx.[23:54:06] <Guuest45818> I also believe that I get no help here.[23:54:40] <thumbs> Guuest45818: then you're free to leave :)[23:57:15] <Guuest45818> I might actually save me again tomorrow to ask[23:58:03] <thumbs> Guuest45818: then I'll make sure to tell you the same thing tomorrow.