June 19, 2013 
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June 19, 2013 [00:01:28] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[00:09:37] *** stljim has joined #postfix[00:30:47] <wolfmitchell> How would I make postfix force auth to send mail? (using /etc/passwd)[00:30:48] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[00:38:27] *** jekle has joined #postfix[01:04:38] *** danblack has joined #postfix[01:05:12] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[01:11:28] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[01:25:59] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[01:27:53] <Patrickdk> wolfmitchell, you don't[01:28:04] <wolfmitchell> .-.[01:28:13] <Patrickdk> how exactly do you expect to *extract* a password form a file that doesn't have passwords in it?[01:36:11] <danblack> with magic :-)[01:38:43] <wolfmitchell> erm, whatever file it is that has passwords xD[01:43:15] <rob0> Is the question merely how to require AUTH for relaying, rather than allowing relay by IP address? If so, that's simple: remove permit_mynetworks from smtpd_recipient_restrictions (or smtpd_relay_restrictions in 2.10+).[01:48:28] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[01:50:24] <wolfmitchell> mmk[01:50:27] <wolfmitchell> thanks :D[01:53:16] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[01:56:21] *** lroe has quit IRC[01:57:06] *** lroe has joined #postfix[01:57:06] *** lroe has joined #postfix[02:08:03] *** gongoputch has joined #postfix[02:10:04] *** Praise- has joined #postfix[02:11:23] *** Praise has quit IRC[02:11:34] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[02:14:59] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[02:18:31] *** wald00 has quit IRC[02:37:17] *** Praise- is now known as Praise[02:49:12] *** bloopletech has joined #postfix[02:52:23] <bloopletech> I'm trying to set up a pretty ordinary postfix install: I want to accept email entered through sendmail -t -i, and have postfix send it out. I don't want to accept any incoming email etc. I've followed the instructions on the postfix.org FAQ as best I can (my main.cf is here https://gist.github.com/bloopletech/27735f3b22a34f5c5ddb)[02:53:03] <thumbs> perhaps a nullclient would be better[02:53:06] <bloopletech> but when I send mail out, I get this error in mailq: (connect to budgetaus.net[178.79.185.84]:25: Connection refused). Clearly I don't know what I'm doing ;), any pointers would be great[02:53:38] <bloopletech> AFAICT that's what I'm trying to set up...[02:53:46] <thumbs> !t bloopletech nullclient[02:53:47] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "t" is not a valid command.[02:53:51] <thumbs> !tell bloopletech nullclient[02:53:52] <knoba> bloopletech: "nullclient" : a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[02:54:17] <bloopletech> !nullclient_software[02:54:17] <knoba> bloopletech: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include msmtp, esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[02:54:27] <bloopletech> ooh ok[02:55:16] <bloopletech> I saw references to msmtp before, but they were saying that if you were sending any volume of email ,you might run into issues[02:56:40] <thumbs> bloopletech: well, you need a decent MTA that will deal with volume.[02:58:51] <bloopletech> mmm. Googling, most of these seem to be for handing off to a 'real' mta to actually attempt delivery :/. I'm happy to do the set up to get postfix to be my real MTA, I'm just tired (long night of getting this site ready for launch...) and know I'm probably ding something stupid with my config[02:59:59] <thumbs> the point is that postfix CAN be configured to be a nullclient, but using msmtp is far easier to set up[03:00:20] <thumbs> bloopletech: where is that postfix server hosted, anyway?[03:01:24] <bloopletech> This is on my linode vps; I'm using postfix solely for outgoing email for user account creation etc., so I'm hoping that I can do that much without running into massive issues[03:01:38] <thumbs> ok.[03:02:56] *** grknight has joined #postfix[03:03:36] *** danblack has quit IRC[03:04:25] <bloopletech> Yeah, msmtp does look simpler to set up, but I'm possibly going to run into issues with volume and rate limits if I just point it to gmail etc. I think I'd rather fix my postfix config at this point. It appears as if the server is trying to connect to itself on port 25... not sure if the sender/recipient has gotten mixed up or if the config is such that it doesn't realise the server it's connectig to is the same machine[03:04:58] <bloopletech> I don't have anything special in my /etc/hosts, and port 25 (incoming at least) is most likely blocked by my iptables config[03:05:28] <thumbs> bloopletech: telnet 178.79.185.84 25 from different machines[03:05:41] <thumbs> bloopletech: and telnet to a known working mail server, too.[03:11:04] <thumbs> bloopletech: make sure outgoing traffic on port 25 is not firewalled.[03:17:40] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[04:03:00] *** danblack has joined #postfix[04:05:53] *** fbh has quit IRC[04:05:55] *** sonne has quit IRC[04:11:44] *** ltxda has joined #postfix[04:12:28] <ltxda> hi all. Having a problem sending e-mail from my mail client through Postfix. Have configured it for clear text SMTP Auth but keep getting incorrect username/password even though that's correct. Anyone available to help?[04:13:24] *** fbh has joined #postfix[04:13:35] <ltxda> I followed this how-to but it's still not working: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailclients.html[04:14:34] <thumbs> !tell ltxda welcome[04:14:34] <knoba> ltxda: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[04:15:07] <ltxda> thumbs, thnx! :)[04:18:47] <ltxda> thumbs, i found another document and it seems the initial doc i followed was incomplete. I'll be back if this doesn't work and follow the topic as suggested. thnx.[04:40:11] *** amboss has quit IRC[04:40:57] *** danblack has quit IRC[04:42:02] *** amboss has joined #postfix[04:54:07] *** danblack has joined #postfix[04:55:03] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[05:01:13] *** Colt has joined #postfix[05:01:41] *** gavimobile has quit IRC[05:01:42] *** Colt has joined #postfix[05:02:57] *** danblack has quit IRC[05:32:13] *** stljim has quit IRC[05:38:44] *** ek has quit IRC[05:38:52] *** ek has joined #postfix[05:47:37] *** misc_ has joined #postfix[05:49:26] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[05:50:47] *** lroe has quit IRC[05:50:49] *** pj has quit IRC[05:50:53] *** daguz has quit IRC[05:50:54] *** smue has quit IRC[05:50:58] *** ccxCZ has quit IRC[05:51:00] *** dec has quit IRC[05:51:02] *** typ has quit IRC[05:51:03] *** micols_ has quit IRC[05:51:03] *** jduggan has quit IRC[05:51:08] *** jgm has quit IRC[05:51:10] *** crazedpsyc has quit IRC[05:51:10] *** jashank has quit IRC[05:51:13] *** _bt has quit IRC[05:51:14] *** ChadLepto has quit IRC[05:51:14] *** ghoti has quit IRC[05:51:25] *** misc_ has left #postfix[05:52:00] *** magyar has quit IRC[05:52:02] *** internat has quit IRC[05:52:06] *** Uninstall has quit IRC[05:52:06] *** Verilium has quit IRC[05:52:08] *** nihe has quit IRC[05:52:10] *** alexbst has quit IRC[05:52:11] *** jelly-home has quit IRC[05:52:11] *** thumbs has quit IRC[05:52:12] *** Dessa has quit IRC[05:52:13] *** jefferai has quit IRC[05:52:13] *** sp00kz has quit IRC[05:52:16] *** cromag has quit IRC[05:52:17] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[05:52:18] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[05:52:18] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[05:52:18] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[05:52:18] *** miscellt has joined #postfix[05:52:43] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[05:52:43] *** lroe has joined #postfix[05:52:43] *** pj has joined #postfix[05:52:43] *** daguz has joined #postfix[05:52:44] *** smue has joined #postfix[05:52:44] *** jgm has joined #postfix[05:52:44] *** typ has joined #postfix[05:52:44] *** ccxCZ has joined #postfix[05:52:44] *** dec has joined #postfix[05:52:45] *** micols_ has joined #postfix[05:52:45] *** jduggan has joined #postfix[05:52:45] *** crazedpsyc has joined #postfix[05:52:45] *** jashank has joined #postfix[05:52:45] *** _bt has joined #postfix[05:52:46] *** ChadLepto has joined #postfix[05:53:10] *** ghoti has quit IRC[05:53:59] *** magyar has joined #postfix[05:54:00] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[05:54:00] *** internat has joined #postfix[05:54:00] *** Uninstall has joined #postfix[05:54:00] *** Verilium has joined #postfix[05:54:01] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[05:54:01] *** nihe has joined #postfix[05:54:01] *** alexbst has joined #postfix[05:54:01] *** jelly-home has joined #postfix[05:54:02] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[05:54:02] *** Dessa has joined #postfix[05:54:02] *** jefferai has joined #postfix[05:54:03] *** sp00kz has joined #postfix[05:54:03] *** cromag has joined #postfix[05:54:04] *** miscellt has quit IRC[05:54:04] *** grknight has quit IRC[05:54:06] *** lroe has quit IRC[05:54:09] *** pj has quit IRC[05:54:14] *** daguz has quit IRC[05:54:15] *** smue has quit IRC[05:54:18] *** ccxCZ has quit IRC[05:54:20] *** dec has quit IRC[05:54:20] *** typ has quit IRC[05:54:21] *** micols_ has quit IRC[05:54:21] *** jduggan has quit IRC[05:54:25] *** jgm has quit IRC[05:54:27] *** crazedpsyc has quit IRC[05:54:27] *** jashank has quit IRC[05:54:31] *** _bt has quit IRC[05:54:31] *** ChadLepto has quit IRC[05:54:32] *** grknight has joined #postfix[05:54:32] *** magyar has quit IRC[05:54:41] *** Kellin_ has quit IRC[05:55:39] *** lroe has joined #postfix[05:55:39] *** pj has joined #postfix[05:55:40] *** daguz has joined #postfix[05:55:40] *** smue has joined #postfix[05:55:40] *** jgm has joined #postfix[05:55:40] *** typ has joined #postfix[05:55:41] *** ccxCZ has joined #postfix[05:55:41] *** dec has joined #postfix[05:55:41] *** micols_ has joined #postfix[05:55:41] *** jduggan has joined #postfix[05:55:42] *** crazedpsyc has joined #postfix[05:55:42] *** jashank has joined #postfix[05:55:42] *** _bt has joined #postfix[05:55:44] *** ChadLepto has joined #postfix[05:56:00] *** grknight has quit IRC[05:56:03] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[05:56:05] *** grknight has joined #postfix[05:56:32] *** bloopletech has quit IRC[05:59:24] <pj> !tell ltxda tutorial[05:59:24] <knoba> ltxda: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[05:59:59] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[06:11:47] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:13:45] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:17:10] *** danblack has joined #postfix[06:19:06] *** sleepee has joined #postfix[06:21:27] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[06:24:27] *** joker2u has joined #postfix[06:24:37] <joker2u> I am getting a smtp failed to connect port 25 error, but I can telnet port 25 to my emails dns and get smtp. ?? http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=smtp%3anyctelecomm.com&run=toolpage[06:26:28] <pj> getting the error from where?[06:26:49] *** wald00 has quit IRC[06:28:47] <joker2u> pj two or three different webtools.[06:29:30] <joker2u> similar to the above[06:31:16] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[06:31:39] <pj> I can connect just fine. Can't speak for the tool.[06:31:47] <pj> joker2u: what problem are you trying to solve?[06:32:42] <joker2u> just that. I am a dns freak after some previous issues. 'shell shock'. :)[06:33:27] <joker2u> making sure stuff isn't failing again.[06:33:52] <danblack> !rdns[06:33:52] <knoba> danblack: "rdns" : A reverse lookup is often referred to as reverse resolving, or more specifically reverse DNS lookup, and is accomplished using the in-addr.arpa domain in the form of a PTR record. See the !ptr factoid as well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDNS[06:34:31] <pj> joker2u: do you want to make sure people can send you mail? is that it?[06:35:02] <pj> you need to say more than you want it to pass some random tool. I don't know anything about the tool.[06:36:25] <pj> are you trying to send mail to username at nyctelecomm dot com?[06:36:35] <joker2u> pj the tenative checks seems ok, but I put out a few test emails to folks whom should of replied by now, scenario. I am digging for possible flaws. My dns was borked earlier, it all seems correct now. any error is alaming.[06:36:52] <pj> are you trying to send mail to username at nyctelecomm dot com?[06:37:31] <joker2u> no, not 'username'. drats, where are you seeing that at?[06:37:48] <pj> I mean just any user at that domain[06:38:30] <joker2u> oh, yes user at nyctelecomm dot com is the dns in question.[06:38:48] <pj> ok, yes, the dns for nyctelecomm.com is borked[06:39:13] <pj> nyctelecomm.com. 86190 IN MX 0 emailer1.knollwoodtrust.net.[06:39:28] <pj> emailer1.knollwoodtrust.net. ... NXDOMAIN[06:39:48] <joker2u> pj mx record cannot be a cannocal name. only A[06:40:08] <pj> MX record points to a hostname[06:40:26] <joker2u> hostname is emailer1.knollwoodtrust.net.[06:40:29] <pj> right[06:40:39] <pj> and emailer1.knollwoodtrust.net. does not resolve[06:40:48] <pj> it returns NXDOMAIN[06:42:10] <joker2u> my cat /var/bind/pri/nyctelecomm.com.external http://bpaste.net/show/108272/[06:42:17] *** grknight has quit IRC[06:43:28] <pj> that's nice, what makes you think that putting a record for knollwoodtrust.net. in the nyctelecomm.com. zone will do anything?[06:45:04] <joker2u> yeah, i see that now.[06:45:28] <pj> anyways, #bind is that way <-----[06:48:58] <joker2u> I thought it was ---> way? :)[06:49:51] <pj> nope, definately that way <-----[06:49:56] <jimpop> is it possible to have postscreen reject non-fqdn connentions, rather than PASSing them on to smtpd?[06:50:04] <joker2u> no ^?[06:50:07] <joker2u> :)[06:50:47] <pj> ummmmm[06:50:49] <pj> !postscreen[06:50:49] <knoba> pj: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available in Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html[06:51:12] <joker2u> Thank you!![06:51:17] *** joker2u has left #postfix[06:51:29] <pj> no, postscreen doesn't have a test for that.[06:59:00] *** danblack has quit IRC[07:00:00] <jimpop> ok, thx[07:01:07] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[07:05:41] *** fireglow has quit IRC[07:10:34] *** fireglow has joined #postfix[07:11:10] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[07:30:05] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[07:35:26] *** jarif has joined #postfix[07:37:31] *** danblack has joined #postfix[07:38:25] *** qdrrmt has joined #postfix[07:39:40] *** sonne has joined #postfix[07:50:19] *** wald00 has quit IRC[08:05:43] *** miscellt has joined #postfix[08:06:37] <miscellt> I'm having trouble getting a postfix smtp relay working with my external hosted provider. I keep getting "cannot authenticate to server no mechanism available" when I attempt to send mail. Anyone have experience with this?[08:08:49] *** fasta_ has joined #postfix[08:08:59] *** tapout_ has joined #postfix[08:09:02] *** synapt- has joined #postfix[08:09:04] *** schrodinger_ has joined #postfix[08:09:24] *** patdk-wk_ has joined #postfix[08:09:36] *** cnu_ has joined #postfix[08:09:37] *** jacekows1i has joined #postfix[08:09:55] *** causasui_ has joined #postfix[08:09:56] *** tapout has quit IRC[08:09:56] *** fasta has quit IRC[08:09:59] *** synapt has quit IRC[08:10:01] *** madduck has quit IRC[08:10:02] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[08:10:04] *** Cybertinus has quit IRC[08:10:05] *** synapt- is now known as synapt[08:10:05] *** Cybert1nus has joined #postfix[08:10:06] *** FUF has quit IRC[08:10:09] *** nb has quit IRC[08:10:09] *** jimpop has quit IRC[08:10:09] *** causasui has quit IRC[08:10:12] *** cnu- has quit IRC[08:10:13] *** jacekowski has quit IRC[08:10:14] *** eye69 has quit IRC[08:10:14] *** jimpop has joined #postfix[08:10:14] *** Tormin has quit IRC[08:10:15] *** 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<patdk-wk_> for what goal?[14:55:57] <Dominian> reduction of forged emails/spam?[14:56:04] <patdk-wk_> it doesn't do that[14:56:19] *** jimiller has quit IRC[14:56:40] *** ncp has joined #postfix[14:56:52] <Dominian> patdk-wk_: Yeah I only skimmed it.. reading their site now[14:57:33] <patdk-wk_> really only does two things[14:57:42] <patdk-wk_> provides feedback, that is nice[14:57:46] * Dominian nods[14:57:59] <patdk-wk_> and you can set it to, yes, my spf/dkim really are suppost to be used[14:58:06] <patdk-wk_> that part is kind of redundant[14:58:15] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:58:27] <Dominian> So it combats phishing[14:59:05] <patdk-wk_> mailling lists are still hopelessly broken[14:59:10] <Dominian> Yeah[14:59:38] <patdk-wk_> everytime I mail a mailing list, I get lots of dmarc reports[14:59:44] <Dominian> heh[14:59:59] <Dominian> WEll, I might have to set it up and see what this is all about[15:00:22] <patdk-wk_> now it did let me know that another part of the company was not using our email server[15:00:30] <patdk-wk_> and managed to get that straightened out[15:00:37] <Dominian> nice[15:01:01] <Dominian> So basically this is a way of telling other servers that utilize DMARC that "Hey, I use SPF and DKIM, if emails you receive fail both of these, I didn't send it"[15:01:21] *** wdp has quit IRC[15:01:31] <patdk-wk_> for the sencond part yes[15:01:50] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:02:09] <Dominian> hmm[15:02:46] <Dominian> so are you using opendmarc on your postfix sestup?[15:02:49] <Dominian> er.. setup[15:03:14] <patdk-wk_> nope[15:03:36] <Dominian> ok[15:03:41] <Dominian> WEll thanks for the info patdk-wk_[15:03:47] <Dominian> definitely has some promise[15:04:04] <Dominian> The reporting feature of it is enough to make me want to try it out at least[15:04:42] <patdk-wk_> it's just a dns entry[15:05:01] <patdk-wk_> opendmarc is really for producing email reports to send back to people[15:05:12] <Dominian> ahhh[15:05:13] <Dominian> ok[15:05:23] <Dominian> right, I understand it's just a DNS entry[15:05:25] <Dominian> :)[15:05:32] <patdk-wk_> I'm sure it also enforces the spf/dkim stuff, but that can be done easily enough with spamass[15:05:38] <Dominian> yeah[15:05:52] *** schnuffle has joined #postfix[15:06:08] <Dominian> ahhh I see the p= tells them what to do with th emessage.. none, quarantine, or reject[15:06:59] <Dominian> So this would be a common TXT record for DMARC: v=DMARC1; p=none; rua=mailto:postmaster at your_domain dot com[15:07:02] <Dominian> well, that's simple enough[15:07:04] <patdk-wk_> ya, I would do reject, if it wasn't a mailing list issue[15:07:10] <Dominian> yeah no kidding[15:07:15] <patdk-wk_> but then, based on my spf/dkim they should be rejecting anyways[15:07:26] <lunaphyte_> what's opendmarc mostly good for? exposing dipshits who can't properly set up dkim.[15:07:29] <patdk-wk_> I really feel it's annoying, if you set them, and they are ignored[15:07:45] <lunaphyte_> e.g. [08:59am] patdk-wk_: mailling lists are still hopelessly broken[15:08:13] <Dominian> lol[15:08:29] <Dominian> anyway.. I'll add that txt record,, at least the aggregate report will be interesting to see[15:09:01] <patdk-wk_> well, I mainly blame the mailling list software for that[15:09:11] <patdk-wk_> it could fix the email for spf/dkim[15:09:12] <lunaphyte_> i now hesitate more to send messages to mailing lists because i know i'll get back a bunch of brain dead garbage from idiots' mail servers claiming my dkim is broken [it's not][15:09:19] <patdk-wk_> nothing the mailling list can do fix senderid though[15:14:18] <Dominian> grrr[15:14:25] <Dominian> I always forget nsupdate -l syntax[15:14:26] <Dominian> lol[15:14:38] <patdk-wk_> just don't use bind[15:14:41] <patdk-wk_> then it won't matter[15:15:17] <Dominian> :)[15:15:31] <Dominian> I'll look at changing DNS servers at some point[15:15:34] <Dominian> but right now, it's what I got[15:15:50] <lunaphyte_> meh.[15:15:54] <lunaphyte_> bind is perfectly fine[15:16:17] <patdk-wk_> dunno, I gave up on it long ago[15:16:28] <patdk-wk_> it was just not keeping up with the load I put on it[15:16:40] <lunaphyte_> i've never had any problem with that[15:18:05] <patdk-wk_> I had some processing, and it was taking too long[15:18:25] <patdk-wk_> did some benchmarks and found powerdns would serve up lookups 3x faster than bind was[15:18:58] <patdk-wk_> also, I liked switching from bind txt files to ldap backend[15:19:03] <Dominian> grr _dmarc.slackadelic.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=DMARC1\; p=none\; rua=mailto:postmaster at slackadelic dot com"[15:19:08] <Dominian> fucking \[15:19:55] <patdk-wk_> your suppost to have the \[15:20:02] <Dominian> Yeah.. just realized that[15:20:05] <Dominian> it added it in automatically[15:21:22] <Dominian> well _dmarc record added[15:21:28] <Dominian> see how this goes[15:21:46] <patdk-wk_> maybe add pct=100 ?[15:22:43] <Dominian> hmm from what I read, if you don't include pct, 100% is assumed[15:22:52] <Dominian> Trying to verify that now[15:22:56] <patdk-wk_> ah, I normally don't make assumptions[15:23:22] <Dominian> Yeah.. good point :)[15:25:04] <Dominian> got it.. thanks patdk-wk_[15:26:49] <Dominian> so that basic dmarc record should get me the reports then[15:27:36] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:30:36] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:38:47] *** junixbr has joined #postfix[15:56:09] *** gargoyle has joined #postfix[15:59:30] <gargoyle> Can anyone here help me resolve dependency issues with the fedora 18 rpm? I'm trying to install postfix via yum, and its showing libmysqlclient.so.18(libmysqlclient_16)(64bit) as a dependency, and thinks it needs mysql-libs. But I have provided that via the rpm from mysql.com (http://pastie.org/private/jtp4o8yf4mpq4oxno6fl2g#) Although, as you can see from the paste, it doesn't list libmysqlclient.so.18(libmysqlclient_16)(64bit)[15:59:51] <Dominian> #fedora[16:00:07] <Dominian> The dependencies are determined by the OS, not postfix.[16:00:37] <gargoyle> Thanks Dominian, didn't know if anyone here worked on the rpm stuff.[16:06:44] <Dominian> Doubt it[16:06:48] <Dominian> that's a distro specific issue[16:06:53] *** RayS has quit IRC[16:06:58] <Dominian> postfix is distributed as source[16:08:15] *** bungalo has joined #postfix[16:15:27] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[16:16:24] <tuxick> good old rpm[16:16:33] <patdk-wk_> heh, gargoyle you screwed up your install by using 3rd party stuff[16:16:38] <patdk-wk_> and assume it would work?[16:18:27] <jelly> patdk-wk_: correction: 1st party stuff.[16:18:40] <patdk-wk_> 3rd party, it was not from his os[16:18:45] <gargoyle> patdk-wk_: It's not really screwed, and I am not "assuming" anything. Also, the package is direct from MyQSL[16:19:02] <jelly> patdk-wk_: 1st party, mysql.com is the 1st party. Distro is the 2nd[16:19:04] <patdk-wk_> yes, but the mysql package clearly was not designed to interface cleanly to your os[16:19:16] <gargoyle> I just thought that there might have been another geek kicking around that also is trying to use mysql 5.6.12 on fedora![16:19:43] <patdk-wk_> then try #mysql?[16:20:25] <jelly> just rebuild the thing against whatever libmysqlclient devel you have installed and go on your merry way, I guess[16:21:10] <gargoyle> jelly, yeah - been all round #mysql, #fedora, etc, and am going to build postfix from source.[16:21:14] <jelly> fedora hopefully still provides .src.rpms[16:21:53] *** wald00 has quit IRC[16:22:03] <patdk-wk_> oh mysql doesn't even release a fedora version[16:22:22] <patdk-wk_> you have debian/suse/rhel and generic[16:23:52] *** jarif has quit IRC[16:28:22] *** schnuffle has left #postfix[16:29:50] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[16:30:54] *** stljim has joined #postfix[16:31:22] <gargoyle> jelly: Thanks for the help.[16:37:11] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[16:45:30] *** anebi has joined #postfix[16:45:58] <rob0> !mysql[16:46:00] <knoba> rob0: "mysql" : http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html is helpful in configuring postfix to talk to a mysql server.[16:46:38] <rob0> (has instructions on how to compile with mysql support)[16:47:20] <anebi> hi, i received a requirement from a client to copy all his incoming and outgoing mails on his server to specific address. i know i can do it using always_bcc or similar, but there is a requirement all incoming mails to be forwarded to specific address and spefic folder. Same for outgoing mails. This way to have separation of incoming and outgoing mails.[16:47:37] <anebi> Can you please give me some ideas how i can do it on postfix?[16:47:41] <waldi> !sender_bcc_maps[16:47:41] <knoba> waldi: "sender_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by sender address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[16:48:02] <waldi> !tell anebi sender_bcc_maps[16:48:02] <knoba> anebi: "sender_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by sender address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[16:48:06] <waldi> !tell anebi recipient_bcc_maps[16:48:06] <knoba> anebi: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[16:48:23] <anebi> thanks :) i will check these :)[16:49:19] <waldi> please note that any server related to the bcc address needs to support DSN properly[16:50:02] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[16:50:05] <gargoyle> \o/[16:50:25] <gargoyle> Rebuilt the rpm without mysql support![16:56:02] <patdk-wk_> ok, spammers are calling me now[16:57:42] *** qdrrmt has quit IRC[16:57:52] *** pj has quit IRC[17:02:11] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:03:17] *** qdrrmt has joined #postfix[17:09:25] *** magyar has joined #postfix[17:09:25] *** magyar has joined #postfix[17:09:27] *** gpkfr has joined #postfix[17:11:30] <gargoyle> Do I need to run a command after editing /etc/postfix/transport like "newaliases" for /etc/aliases ?[17:15:41] <patdk-wk_> postmap[17:15:59] <rob0> (assuming it's a hash: map)[17:16:01] *** pj has joined #postfix[17:22:07] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[17:33:35] <adaptr> hash, or db2, or texthash, or anything else not involving network services or regexes[17:34:47] <rob0> texthash does not need postmap[17:35:07] <rob0> And most sites don't need transport_maps, for that matter.[17:35:36] <adaptr> oh, is that hashed internally, then ?[17:35:43] <rob0> transport_maps are terribly overused by clueless howtos[17:35:52] <adaptr> s/howtos/*/[17:36:06] <anebi> can i send message to user like this address+Folder at domain dot tld and mail to be delivered directly into Folder mentioned in address?[17:36:35] <patdk-wk_> you can, most websites can't :)[17:36:41] <adaptr> that's for your MDA[17:36:45] <adaptr> to figure out[17:36:51] <adaptr> jeebus I need moar cofe[17:36:54] <adaptr> cofi[17:37:20] <rob0> !recipient_delimiter[17:37:20] <knoba> rob0: "recipient_delimiter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The separator between user names and address extensions (user+foo). See canonical(5), local(8), relocated(5) and virtual(5) for the effects this has on aliases, canonical, virtual, relocated and on .forward file lookups. Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before trying user and .forward.[17:37:47] <patdk-wk_> I have transport maps setup on 2 of my servers[17:37:49] <adaptr> um, not updated for alternatives yet ?[17:38:03] <rob0> no[17:38:15] <adaptr> lazyphyte[17:38:32] <rob0> that's only in 2.11, so we'll have some time to think about rewording it[17:39:02] <adaptr> ah yes, I am running ahead now[17:39:11] *** tharkun has quit IRC[17:39:11] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[17:39:13] * thumbs trips adaptr[17:39:20] <tharkun> anebi: sieve is your weapon of choice[17:39:41] *** causasui_ is now known as causasui[17:39:43] <patdk-wk_> tharkun, not really[17:40:16] <patdk-wk_> well, you could use sieve, but it's supported directly[17:40:17] <tharkun> patdk-wk_: then you release managesieve on your server and users get to fubar it all by themselves[17:40:37] <patdk-wk_> I have never seen a user use managesieve[17:40:39] <anebi> tharkun: thanks, i am reading now more for all these[17:40:42] <adaptr> I just set it globally in dovecot. works like magic[17:40:44] <patdk-wk_> now, they do use webmail to configure it though[17:40:56] *** gargoyle has left #postfix[17:41:24] <patdk-wk_> adaptr, I have a global put spam in spam folder rule that runs after user rules, so if only applies if they don't set their own spam rules[17:41:39] <adaptr> okay[17:42:48] <tharkun> patdk-wk_: So your global rule is allways runned?[17:43:05] <patdk-wk_> global runs are always run[17:43:15] <patdk-wk_> I just run it after so it's can be ignored[17:43:34] <adaptr> ...why would it be ignored[17:43:49] <patdk-wk_> if the spam mail was already filtered by a user rule[17:43:53] * tharkun runs to the dovecot documentation to alter the order in which rules are aplied[17:45:08] <patdk-wk_> user whitelists an address, user wants spam mail to be deleted instead, ...[17:46:53] <patdk-wk_> hmm, actually I don't have it set that way anymore[17:47:00] <patdk-wk_> just of been how I did it for maildrop[17:47:09] <patdk-wk_> sieve just has the option if they have no rules[17:47:18] <patdk-wk_> I think that changed receintly though[17:48:08] <jeev> hm[17:48:53] *** jarif has joined #postfix[17:49:10] *** gpkfr has quit IRC[17:49:46] <jeev> Server error: '452 ... temporary failure' <- would i not see this in maillog ?[17:50:23] <patdk-wk_> sure[17:50:48] *** Jarris has joined #postfix[17:50:48] <jeev> i've been getting complaints that one person in the office is not getting their emails sometimes.[17:51:06] <lunaphyte_> oh, that should be fixed now[17:51:08] <jeev> one of the girl's forwarded me this, looks like an amavis response, i don't see anything[17:51:12] <jeev> ha ha lunaphyte[17:51:13] <thumbs> u/29[17:52:39] <patdk-wk_> I have one 452 in my logs, rept to not found[17:53:03] <jeev> i dont even have a 452 in the logs.[17:53:20] <patdk-wk_> then likely your server didn't get the message[17:53:31] *** gpkfr has joined #postfix[17:53:34] <patdk-wk_> are you sure your server was involed in the transactio nthat greated the 452?[17:53:45] <jeev> yes, this is true.[17:53:52] <jeev> let me see[17:54:01] * patdk-wk_ notes typing gone to hell[17:54:24] <jeev> i don't seem to understand why this person has been having trouble getting emails from some places.. only this person[17:54:29] <lunaphyte_> i remember back before the 452 was great.[17:54:56] <lunaphyte_> that all happened after the great transactio took over as overlord[17:55:13] * patdk-wk_ goes back to drinking 151[17:56:12] <jeev> hm[17:57:06] <jeev> this girl is like an 8/10, if she were a foot taller, i'd say she's a 10.[17:57:27] <patdk-wk_> taller? dunno, I like short girls[17:57:30] <jeev> i emailed her and said i'm gonna monitor her stuff, she's like "lol you're watching me?" i was gonna say "my girlfriend wouldn't be too happy"[17:57:35] <jeev> she's 13 inches shorter than me[17:57:57] <jeev> my ex was 4'10 dude, i'm done with little ones but even my current gf is in the low 5's[17:57:59] <patdk-wk_> pics or she doesn't exist :)[17:58:17] <jeev> no way, my girlfriend looks like angelina jolie, now they both share the same trait, small boobs![17:58:27] <jeev> characteristic,whatever[17:58:46] <patdk-wk_> na, not the gf :)[17:59:06] <jeev> oh, it'd be too weird, some freak here would contact her[17:59:11] <jeev> (rob0)[17:59:17] <patdk-wk_> :)[18:00:54] <adaptr> jeev: both refer to Mendelevian genetics. AJs boobs did not involve genetics *directly* :)[18:02:24] <jeev> ah[18:02:34] <jeev> yea i didn't mean trait[18:06:12] <jeev> ah that waws a godaddy error[18:06:23] <jeev> or outlok, wait i dunon[18:10:33] <jeev> she said she tried to forward the other girl an email from godaddy and got that.[18:18:21] <jeev> any idea's as to what would cause this ?[18:18:42] *** ffiore has quit IRC[18:18:57] <patdk-wk_> there is no reason that should happen[18:19:08] <patdk-wk_> and without seeing the emails, hard to even guess[18:19:54] *** Jarris has quit IRC[18:22:48] *** xcrracer has joined #postfix[18:24:26] <jeev> what do you mean seeing the emails? she just forwarded something, truthfully i never saw anything come in, i just forwarded from that account and it went through.[18:24:41] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[18:25:14] <adaptr> !tell jeev welcome[18:25:14] <knoba> jeev: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[18:25:42] *** cilly has quit IRC[18:26:23] <jeev> :> i'll look at this later[18:27:26] *** cilly has joined #postfix[18:29:20] <patdk-wk_> :)[18:29:29] <patdk-wk_> headers and bounce emails are very important[18:33:31] *** jarif has quit IRC[18:34:32] *** gpkfr has quit IRC[18:38:51] <anebi> I got all working. Thank you very much all.[18:44:01] *** anebi has quit IRC[18:48:26] *** RayS has joined #postfix[18:49:55] *** err-or has joined #postfix[18:50:09] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[18:59:02] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[19:04:00] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[19:10:24] *** Toerkeium has joined #postfix[19:10:57] *** Chex is now known as Chex-[19:11:03] *** Chex- is now known as Chex[19:20:46] *** tidd has joined #postfix[19:21:25] <tidd> !welcome[19:21:26] <knoba> tidd: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[19:22:37] *** jarif has joined #postfix[19:40:17] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[19:42:14] *** jhave has joined #postfix[19:42:17] <jhave> Hello[19:42:30] <jhave> I have a problem whit postix pipes[19:43:23] <adaptr> !tell jhave welcome[19:43:23] <knoba> jhave: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[19:44:19] <jhave> i have a alias created as mail: "|/usr/bin/php -q /var/www/domain.dk/cp/pipe/pipe.php" in /etc/aliases[19:44:30] <jhave> but the log says the file dont exists[19:44:30] *** trusktr has joined #postfix[19:44:43] <adaptr> jhave: did you read the /topic ?[19:46:57] <jhave> adaptr, yes i have just read it :)[19:47:37] <adaptr> and...?[19:48:09] *** tidd has quit IRC[19:48:19] <jhave> output from postconf -n http://pastebin.com/zivBkKKA[19:48:56] <adaptr> it's those logs you mentioned we need to see.[19:50:11] *** tidd has joined #postfix[19:52:10] <jhave> maybe i found the problem :S[19:53:57] *** CookieNinja_ has joined #postfix[19:54:01] *** mechanicalduck_ has joined #postfix[19:59:24] *** emcepe has joined #postfix[20:00:09] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[20:00:12] *** CookieNinja has quit IRC[20:00:12] *** mcp has quit IRC[20:12:02] *** jekle has quit IRC[20:30:40] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[20:35:23] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[20:43:55] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[20:52:37] *** Section1 has quit IRC[20:54:29] *** dijit has joined #postfix[20:54:51] *** dijit has left #postfix[21:16:15] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:28:54] *** qdrrmt has quit IRC[21:33:31] *** RayS has quit IRC[21:36:31] *** Quadro has quit IRC[21:40:51] *** qdrrmt has joined #postfix[21:44:55] *** xcrracer has quit IRC[21:45:44] *** Bronze has joined #postfix[21:47:02] *** xcrracer has joined #postfix[21:56:11] *** LinuxCode has quit IRC[21:59:53] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[22:04:29] *** RayS has joined #postfix[22:12:45] *** OpenSys has joined #postfix[22:13:03] <OpenSys> hello[22:13:36] <OpenSys> a little help, what is the parameter to insert the header "X-Postfix-Queue-ID"[22:13:38] <OpenSys> ?[22:15:43] <lunaphyte_> !goal[22:15:44] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[22:16:33] *** xcrracer has quit IRC[22:16:46] <OpenSys> lol, i need the queue id code in the mail header in all emails[22:17:11] <OpenSys> i search about and see references to the "X-Postfix-Queue-ID"[22:17:54] <adaptr> OpenSys: that is not a goal. what is the goal ?[22:18:18] *** bungalo has quit IRC[22:18:31] <OpenSys> goal is a objective[22:19:11] <OpenSys> my objective e tracking the maillog with a mail database[22:19:33] <OpenSys> and with queue id do that job[22:19:39] <OpenSys> 5*[22:20:13] *** xcrracer has joined #postfix[22:20:35] <OpenSys> i see that header in: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html[22:22:23] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[22:23:49] <adaptr> ...have you bothered to read what that section of the readme is about ?[22:25:16] <OpenSys> yes adaptr, don't have anything about, but is just about that header[22:25:23] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[22:26:19] <adaptr> then I don't know what to tell you[22:26:52] <OpenSys> adaptr, do you know that exist's or not a var to insert that header ?[22:27:18] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[22:27:19] <adaptr> I know that you should probably read that page properly, to understand what the random shit you lifted from it actually MEANS.[22:29:22] *** on1ald has quit IRC[22:31:01] <OpenSys> adaptr, forget that page, just a example about the header[22:33:54] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[22:34:30] *** wdp has joined #postfix[22:34:30] *** wdp has joined #postfix[22:40:12] <OpenSys> found some info[22:40:15] <OpenSys> post_mail_fprintf(bounce, "X-%s-Queue-ID: %s",[22:40:15] <OpenSys> bounce_info->mail_name, bounce_info->queue_id);[22:40:31] <OpenSys> only in bounce exists[22:40:57] <OpenSys> change the source code required do add that header[22:42:03] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[22:42:31] *** soosfarm_ has quit IRC[22:48:30] <adaptr> I'm sorry, you want what ?[22:51:06] <pj> OpenSys: the queueid can change if, for example, you use something like amavisd[22:51:28] <OpenSys> adaptr, i need to change the source code for that[22:52:39] *** mechanicalduck_ has quit IRC[22:53:04] <OpenSys> pj, i don't use amavisd, it's a memory sucker. but yes the queueid code changes with that new mail jump[22:53:06] *** RayS has quit IRC[22:55:41] *** grknight has quit IRC[22:56:42] *** snearch has joined #postfix[23:00:31] *** higuita has quit IRC[23:06:29] *** hcpldan has joined #postfix[23:07:06] *** hcpldan has quit IRC[23:11:43] *** UQlev has quit IRC[23:21:55] *** mibofra has quit IRC[23:27:23] *** Bronze has quit IRC[23:31:13] *** diabel has quit 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