June 12, 2013 
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June 12, 2013 [00:00:11] <riceandbeans> http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-address_rewriting.html[00:01:58] *** mactimes_ has quit IRC[00:02:17] *** Tomer- has joined #postfix[00:02:51] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[00:03:09] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[00:03:29] *** mactimes_ has joined #postfix[00:03:29] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[00:05:09] <jimpop> ooh, i can G+ share that[00:05:13] *** MosheM has quit IRC[00:05:16] <jimpop> still, no pictures.[00:05:18] <jimpop> :-([00:06:09] <adaptr> we should petitions Wietse to add Like and Share buttons, he's missing out on so much potential marketshare![00:06:12] *** higuita has quit IRC[00:07:09] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[00:07:34] *** wald00_ has quit IRC[00:07:54] *** wald00_ has joined #postfix[00:08:54] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[00:10:46] *** madduck has quit IRC[00:13:11] *** mibofra has quit IRC[00:14:25] *** riceandbeans has quit IRC[00:14:29] *** danblack has joined #postfix[00:16:26] *** stljim has quit IRC[00:23:42] *** Gm4n has quit IRC[00:27:22] *** xcrracer has quit IRC[00:27:38] *** Gm4n has joined #postfix[00:32:37] *** grknight has joined #postfix[00:33:29] *** Gm4n has quit IRC[00:33:53] *** wdp has quit IRC[00:37:30] *** wald00_ has quit IRC[00:39:26] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[00:39:39] *** Gm4n has joined #postfix[00:47:09] *** stljim has joined #postfix[00:49:41] *** Driver has joined #postfix[01:10:11] *** wald00 has quit IRC[01:10:27] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[01:13:06] *** MattJ has quit IRC[01:16:49] *** mcp has quit IRC[01:17:34] *** mcp has joined #postfix[01:30:19] *** Whoop has joined #postfix[01:30:19] *** Whoop has joined #postfix[01:30:20] *** Whoop has quit IRC[01:31:58] *** madduck_ has joined #postfix[01:31:59] *** madduck_ has joined #postfix[01:32:42] *** trusktr has joined #postfix[01:38:04] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[01:52:21] *** jcontra has joined #postfix[01:55:47] *** laner has quit IRC[02:03:11] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[02:11:28] *** wald00 has quit IRC[02:11:55] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[02:11:55] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[02:19:25] *** jerkbot1 has joined #postfix[02:22:07] *** trusktr has quit IRC[02:25:10] *** err-or has quit IRC[02:25:32] *** jerkbot1 has quit IRC[02:26:46] *** jerkbot1 has joined #postfix[02:28:47] *** jerkbot1 has quit IRC[02:32:01] *** jerkbot1 has joined #postfix[02:32:56] *** danblack has quit IRC[02:33:47] *** Colt has joined #postfix[02:35:45] *** jerkbot1 has quit IRC[02:35:47] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[02:41:22] *** laner has joined #postfix[02:42:12] *** laner has quit IRC[02:52:00] *** leprechau has joined #postfix[02:52:35] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[02:57:17] *** danblack has joined #postfix[03:00:03] *** soosfarm_ has quit IRC[03:02:33] *** bkfitz has joined #postfix[03:05:09] <lunaphyte> heh. giant monolithic turd = "one stop shop"...?[03:13:49] *** bungalo_ has joined #postfix[03:14:56] *** bungalo has quit IRC[03:14:56] *** bungalo_ is now known as bungalo[03:19:23] *** bkfitz has quit IRC[03:27:34] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:27:42] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[03:29:38] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[03:57:35] *** grknight has quit IRC[04:15:29] *** danblack has quit IRC[04:17:38] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[04:28:04] *** Colt has quit IRC[04:36:35] *** jcontra has quit IRC[04:39:18] *** danblack has joined #postfix[04:53:44] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[05:02:20] *** higuita has joined #postfix[05:04:35] *** rowin_ has joined #postfix[05:04:51] *** rowin_ has left #postfix[05:06:38] *** nveselinov has joined #postfix[05:13:53] *** m1nish has quit IRC[05:15:44] *** m1nish has joined #postfix[05:49:33] *** danblack has quit IRC[05:50:01] *** danblack has joined #postfix[05:57:25] *** laner has joined #postfix[05:58:03] *** war4head has joined #postfix[06:00:06] *** warhead has quit IRC[06:58:45] *** wald00 has quit IRC[07:02:02] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[07:07:42] *** Tormin has quit IRC[07:32:08] *** err-or has joined #postfix[07:50:24] *** m1nish has quit IRC[08:11:30] *** pj has quit IRC[08:13:42] *** pj has joined #postfix[08:14:02] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[08:17:38] *** shadyabhi has joined #postfix[08:19:42] <shadyabhi> Is it possible for me to apply miltiple header checks on the same message. I see a problem where if I've something like "header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/reject_vulgar_subject_headers.re regexp:/etc/postfix/log_headers.re", log_headers.re won't be executed if the first header check is satisfied. Am I right/[08:19:47] <shadyabhi> ?[08:24:00] <shadyabhi> The idea of skipping further checks when a match is found, is it valid for all checks or per file?[08:48:38] <danblack> !header_checks[08:48:38] <knoba> danblack: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.[08:48:53] <danblack> each header check is independant.[08:49:25] <danblack> you probably can do something ugly with filters to push the results of one header check through another smtpd instance with a second header check.[08:49:43] <danblack> I'd state your goal and see if there's a better way to do it.[08:49:45] <shadyabhi> danblack: By each header check, you mean each file that I mention?[08:49:55] <shadyabhi> in config gile[08:50:23] <shadyabhi> Because, if you are talking about header checks in a single file then that's definitely not the case[08:54:41] <shadyabhi> Ok, I read it again and now I'm confused[09:02:01] <danblack> what are the contents of both files? if the first returns OK then the second won't be checked. probably re-read the man page, I'm inbetween about 4 lots of work I should be doing.[09:08:07] *** soosfarm has joined #postfix[09:08:36] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[09:08:43] *** stljim has quit IRC[09:10:18] <prooz> I've isntalled postfix, used sendmail before, but the mailq command lists no entries, even though postfix is sending mail[09:16:28] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[09:20:44] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[09:21:19] *** gu1lle_ has quit IRC[09:31:43] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:31:43] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:43:38] *** jarif has quit IRC[09:48:13] *** jarif has joined #postfix[09:54:36] *** jarif_ has joined #postfix[09:55:07] *** jarif has quit IRC[09:59:56] *** buki has quit IRC[10:00:23] *** typ has joined #postfix[10:01:32] *** Borg has quit IRC[10:05:01] <typ> if i configure postfix to auth with sasl what do i need pam for if i'm authing against mysql? i can't find an explanation anywhere, all i find is how i need to configure it[10:06:01] *** Borg has joined #postfix[10:06:32] <Zerberus> typ: it totally depends on the way *you* implement the SASL part[10:06:44] <Zerberus> some solution uses PAM, others not[10:07:02] <typ> but sasl itself supports mysql too?[10:07:28] <typ> you mean i could leave the whole pam part out?[10:08:20] <Zerberus> SASL != SASL[10:08:32] <Zerberus> so which SASL implementation are you using? and how did you set it up?[10:10:11] *** buki has joined #postfix[10:11:47] <typ> i'm running debian squeeze, all soft is installed from repo[10:12:00] <Zerberus> that answer exactly nothing[10:12:05] <Zerberus> answers[10:12:35] <typ> that's what i thought, could you clarify the question?[10:12:53] <Zerberus> please study the SASL README provided by Postfix[10:13:19] <Zerberus> that should help to understand that there are 2 SASL implementations Postfix can use[10:13:44] <Zerberus> and look at the topic to see how to request help[10:13:55] <danblack> !sasl[10:13:55] <knoba> danblack: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[10:14:19] <typ> okay i installed sasl with pam then...[10:14:35] <typ> i wouldn't need to configure mysql in sasl then, right?[10:15:08] <typ> ok, i think i get it[10:15:17] <danblack> the simplier the better, don't involve mysql unless you need synced authentication with something else that doesn't use pam[10:16:57] <typ> what is the /etc/postfix/sasl/ config for?[10:17:08] <typ> i need/want mysql for virtual users[10:22:59] <Zerberus> typ: which SASL implementation are you using?[10:24:05] <typ> according to the postfix SASL readme i'm using saslauthd with PAM[10:24:42] <Zerberus> so cyrus-sasl[10:25:21] <Zerberus> cyrus-sasl provides the sql auxprop, which makes no use of PAM[10:25:52] <Zerberus> as an alternate cyrus-sasl can use saslauthd, which uses PAM as the backend, which can be configured to use pam-mysql[10:26:00] <Zerberus> find *your* way[10:27:20] <typ> i just think i did it double, because i have set saslauthd to use the pam framework (MECHANISMS="pam") and configured all the mysql stuff into /etc/postfix/sasl/..[10:27:34] <typ> *too[10:28:18] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[10:28:55] <typ> although, my saslauthd doesn't support mysql, only: sasldb getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap shadow ldap[10:29:13] <typ> so the whole mysql part in my sasl config is obsolete[10:29:47] <typ> or the postfix>sasl part[10:31:33] <Zerberus> typ: saslauthd does not support mysql - I didn't state so![10:31:56] <Zerberus> typ: you better start reading the provided documentation[10:44:07] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[10:45:01] * tuxick suggests using dovecot[11:12:19] <tuxick> ok, got a little problem understanding what's happening: i have assp listen on :25, passing mails to postfix on :125, and it uses VRFY to check if local account exists[11:13:14] <tuxick> now when a local user tries to send a mail via :25 and recipient server uses greylisting mail bounces instantly[11:13:27] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[11:13:42] <tuxick> as if postfix is also using vrfy when sending?[11:14:28] <tuxick> i'm probably overlooking something silly[11:14:46] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[11:15:05] *** err-or_ has joined #postfix[11:15:30] *** err-or has quit IRC[11:16:19] *** tabakhase has quit IRC[11:16:35] *** mooperd has joined #postfix[11:19:09] *** Borg has quit IRC[11:20:53] *** UQlev has quit IRC[11:22:15] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[11:24:37] *** Borg has joined #postfix[11:25:54] *** tabakhase has joined #postfix[11:38:57] *** mibofra has joined #postfix[11:42:26] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[11:51:05] *** danblack has quit IRC[11:54:03] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[11:56:14] *** deXar has joined #postfix[11:57:08] <deXar> Quick question: Does postfix has any known trouble with the noatime mount option?[11:57:35] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[11:57:48] <UQlev> deXar: not at least on ZFS[11:58:14] <deXar> ummm,thats FFS.[12:06:53] *** Tormin has joined #postfix[12:14:54] *** shadyabhi has quit IRC[12:30:47] *** twobithacker has quit IRC[12:31:00] *** twobithacker has joined #postfix[12:32:07] *** _ruben has quit IRC[12:32:15] *** _ruben has joined #postfix[12:33:12] *** tmberg has quit IRC[12:33:22] *** pppingme has quit IRC[12:33:22] *** Patrickdk has quit IRC[12:33:23] *** whoami has quit IRC[12:33:42] *** patdk-wk has quit IRC[12:33:42] *** kenyon has quit IRC[12:33:42] *** CrunchyChewie has quit IRC[12:33:42] *** synapt has quit IRC[12:34:46] *** kenyon has joined #postfix[12:37:04] *** CrunchyChewie has joined #postfix[12:37:18] *** synapt has joined #postfix[12:37:23] *** whoami has joined #postfix[12:37:38] *** pppingme has joined #postfix[12:38:33] *** Patrickdk has joined #postfix[12:38:50] *** patdk-wk has joined #postfix[12:40:22] *** cnu- has quit IRC[12:43:36] *** glontu has joined #postfix[12:43:38] <glontu> hi[12:44:07] <glontu> so i hear that i can write something like this in the user's forward file |/path/to/command[12:44:32] <glontu> and every time that user receives email it should pipe it through my script[12:44:47] <glontu> so i made a simple bash script that simply echoes all arguments to a file[12:45:13] <glontu> well it does echo something every time email is received but it only echoes blank lines[12:45:24] <glontu> so how do i access the actual email elements ?[12:45:34] *** twobithacker has quit IRC[12:45:43] *** twobithacker has joined #postfix[12:49:17] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[12:58:05] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:01:40] *** kirin` has quit IRC[13:02:56] *** kirin` has joined #postfix[13:21:08] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[13:21:08] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[13:25:35] *** marl_scot has quit IRC[13:25:35] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[13:31:49] *** internat has quit IRC[13:34:50] *** internat has joined #postfix[13:38:04] *** damyan^ has quit IRC[13:38:43] *** damyan^ has joined #postfix[13:44:26] *** webguynow has joined #postfix[13:56:21] *** eth00 has quit IRC[13:57:02] *** eth00 has joined #postfix[13:57:45] *** CookieNinja has joined #postfix[13:59:28] *** CookieNinja_ has quit IRC[14:18:18] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:33:20] *** grknight has joined #postfix[14:34:33] *** lisak has joined #postfix[14:37:43] <lisak> hey, a read documentation of postfix smtp server, is there a way of changing the logs by configuration ? For instance we have a lot of java smtp servers that send email via postfix and I'd need to have information about which client sent the email[14:37:45] <lisak> like IP address[14:38:18] <lisak> otherwise I don't know which java client sent it[14:38:31] <lunaphyte_> that's already logged[14:39:06] *** lisak has left #postfix[14:39:13] *** lisak has joined #postfix[14:39:34] <lisak> lunaphyte, Jun 11 06:18:18 gds39d postfix/smtp[30113]: 072EC404065: to=<fake at email dot com>, relay=mx70.seznam.cz[77.75.73.49]:25, delay=319519, delays=319518/0.03/1/0.01, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host mx70.seznam.cz[77.75.73.49] said: 450 5.1.1 Mailbox is currently disabled. (in reply to RCPT TO command))[14:39:59] <lunaphyte_> huh?[14:39:59] <lisak> gds39d is the hostname where postfix runs ?[14:40:13] <lunaphyte_> you tell me. what's the hostname?[14:40:21] <lisak> gds39d :-)[14:40:31] <lisak> so this information is useless[14:40:37] <lunaphyte_> useless?[14:40:41] <lunaphyte_> no, not really.[14:40:43] <lisak> it tells me where my postfix runs[14:40:55] <lunaphyte_> that's got nothing to do with postfix[14:41:20] <lunaphyte_> postfix isn't writing "gds39d"[14:41:38] <lisak> well where do you see the information about the java smtp that is sending this email via postix ?[14:42:10] <lunaphyte_> why don't you tail the log file, and send a test message.[14:42:19] <lunaphyte_> then you can see what is logged when a connection is made to postfix.[14:44:13] <lisak> well thats it[14:44:30] <lisak> just the status is sent[14:44:48] <lunaphyte_> not sure why you'd think that.[14:45:01] <lunaphyte_> well, you actually wouldn't if you watched the log file when doing a test[14:45:30] <lunaphyte_> did you do this?[14:45:35] <lisak> yesterday[14:45:42] <lisak> it has a few minutes delay[14:45:46] <lisak> before it is loggde[14:45:47] <lisak> logged[14:45:53] <lisak> I'm waiting[14:46:08] <lunaphyte_> why would there be a delay?[14:46:25] <lunaphyte_> as soon as postfix receives a connection, it will be logged. no delay.[14:46:49] <lunaphyte_> unless there is something completely broken with your syslog[14:46:55] <lisak> I don't get it too, yesterday it took 4 minutes[14:47:06] <lisak> eventhough the email was delivered immediately[14:47:45] <lunaphyte_> if you restart postfix is there a delay before you see the restart messages in the log file?[14:50:34] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[14:54:25] <lisak> I'm using davmail, mmnt, I do that via that java client[14:54:48] <adaptr> ... no. restart postfix.[14:54:56] <adaptr> if you cannot, you don't administer postfix[14:55:06] <lunaphyte_> why would a java client be involed in restarting postfix?[14:55:12] <lunaphyte_> this is not making very much sense so far[14:56:02] <lisak> I'm a java developer, and I have to parse the logs to obtain statuses for newsletter campaign[14:56:09] <lisak> I can't do this stuff :-)[14:56:10] <adaptr> irrelevant.[14:56:19] <lunaphyte_> oh. where's your email admin?[14:56:33] <lunaphyte_> they would be the one responsible for postfix.[14:56:55] <lisak> yeah, but they told me that it is not possible to setup those logs[14:57:06] <lunaphyte_> they are an idiot then[14:57:15] <lunaphyte_> because there is nothing to set up.[14:57:18] <lisak> I'm here double checking because it is a lot of pain without sender IP[14:57:25] <lunaphyte_> [08:38am] lunaphyte_: that's already logged[14:57:54] <adaptr> Y U so early ?[14:58:29] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[15:05:01] *** UQlev has quit IRC[15:13:25] *** bkfitz has joined #postfix[15:15:08] *** glontu has quit IRC[15:15:51] *** wald00 has quit IRC[15:17:46] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[15:39:02] *** d00 has joined #postfix[15:54:17] <lisak> I got it, Jun 11 06:18:18 gds39d is syslog part[15:54:25] <lisak> the rest is postfix[15:56:34] <lisak> though I found out that we use a "loadbalancing" postfix that is dividing the emails to 3 our smtp servers[15:57:05] <lisak> so even if I'm able to get the sender IP, it would be IP of the load balancing server[16:02:04] <adaptr> postfix has no loadbalancing capabilities.[16:02:24] <adaptr> and that sounds like a pretty stupid setup.[16:02:31] <adaptr> how are you checking DNSBLs ?[16:02:49] <adaptr> were 3 MX records too expensive ?[16:04:33] *** bkfitz has quit IRC[16:05:15] <tuxick> i suspect a manager did some thinking[16:06:04] *** RayS has joined #postfix[16:08:30] *** bal has joined #postfix[16:11:01] *** ffiore has quit IRC[16:11:30] *** ffiore has joined #postfix[16:18:16] <lisak> newsletter batch -> serverA -> serverB,C,D (1/3, 1/3, 1/3) ... thats all I know[16:18:45] *** slune has joined #postfix[16:19:18] <lisak> the batches have a million emails each[16:23:42] *** Uranio has joined #postfix[16:24:12] *** RayS has quit IRC[16:26:06] *** RayS has joined #postfix[16:26:07] *** stljim has joined #postfix[16:26:36] *** d00 has quit IRC[16:26:55] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[16:31:44] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:43:42] *** d00 has joined #postfix[16:48:00] <tuxick> oh outgoing spam[16:48:09] <tuxick> then why on earth balance?[16:48:29] <tuxick> oh well[16:51:33] *** RayS has quit IRC[16:52:51] <UQlev> fair spam distribution[16:53:18] *** d00 has quit IRC[16:54:45] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[16:54:46] *** wald00 has quit IRC[16:55:00] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[16:56:04] *** jww has left #postfix[16:56:50] <thumbs> death to spammers?[16:57:41] <UQlev> thumbs: no, MTA-killer[17:03:42] *** mactimes_ has quit IRC[17:03:42] *** mactimes_ has joined #postfix[17:03:42] *** mactimes_ is now known as mactimes[17:11:08] *** stljim has quit IRC[17:14:06] *** err-or_ has quit IRC[17:14:27] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[17:14:30] *** err-or has joined #postfix[17:18:05] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[17:20:46] *** stljim has joined #postfix[17:21:09] *** Whoop has joined #postfix[17:22:06] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[17:23:57] *** bal has quit IRC[17:26:18] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:33:53] *** bungalo has quit IRC[17:35:47] *** gu1lle_ has joined #postfix[17:42:26] *** mactimes is now known as mactimes_[17:50:36] *** bisoc has quit IRC[17:54:59] *** bisoc has joined #postfix[18:05:01] *** Tormin has quit IRC[18:06:23] <lisak> tuxick, it ain't spam, just newsletters :-) I hate them though[18:07:17] <tuxick> i bet lots of people consider them spam anyway[18:07:35] <tuxick> joe clicker learned not to click on unsubscribe links[18:07:36] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[18:07:44] <tuxick> since that might be harvesting :)[18:07:53] *** Tormin has joined #postfix[18:08:32] <lisak> we just work for these spammers :-)[18:08:52] <lisak> back to the point, I don't think there is a better way of loadbalancing[18:09:27] <grknight> lisak: are you using VERP for such things? it's an easy way to catch bounce backs and allow for automatic processing[18:09:27] <lisak> now I'm unable to get info about the original sending smtp server[18:12:42] <lisak> uff, a long reading[18:13:51] *** freezey has joined #postfix[18:15:24][18:20:01] <lisak> so that the responses goes there ? And you can listen to the bounces ?[18:20:24] *** ffiore has quit IRC[18:20:46] * UQlev is falling in love with SA .oO(great tool!)[18:20:48] *** mactimes_ is now known as mactimes[18:21:45] <UQlev> especially good against newsletters[18:24:32] <lisak> this is above my skills in this matter[18:25:20] *** deXar has quit IRC[18:27:13] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[18:27:13] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[18:27:56] <UQlev> spammers and sysadmins should be in the same Union. Who the hell will hire sysadmin if setup and maintenance of mailserver will be that easy[18:29:11] <jelly> also, malware authors and protection tools[18:29:20] <tuxick> :)[18:29:21] <adaptr> lisak: then yuo probably shouldn't be managing it[18:29:38] <adaptr> sending out spam without VERP will get you blacklisted. often.[18:29:45] <UQlev> right, we should protect them all as wildlife[18:30:20] *** jimiller has joined #postfix[18:31:30] *** jimiller has quit IRC[18:32:00] <Mp5shooter> !VERP[18:32:51] <adaptr> no spaces, and no upper case[18:33:02] <rob0> case is ignored[18:33:09] <rob0> !vERp[18:33:09] <knoba> rob0: "vERp" : http://www.postfix.org/VERP_README.html[18:33:11] <adaptr> RUSHUR[18:34:09] *** stljim has quit IRC[18:36:10] *** p3rror has quit IRC[18:36:34] <tuxick> ah right, ezmlm[18:37:09] *** micw has quit IRC[18:39:06] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[18:47:13] *** UQlev has quit IRC[18:51:23] *** Eagleman7 has joined #postfix[18:51:27] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[18:58:01] *** slune has quit IRC[18:59:14] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[19:04:47] *** Driver has quit IRC[19:08:07] *** mechanicalduck has joined #postfix[19:45:27] *** mactimes is now known as mactimes_[19:51:45] *** nutron has quit IRC[20:01:45] <lisak> adaptr, checking the internets, I don;t see why VERP would make us blacklisted[20:02:32] <lisak> it looks like a legitimate way[20:03:05] *** wald00 has quit IRC[20:04:17] *** lisak has quit IRC[20:14:58] *** mooperd has quit IRC[20:19:12] *** frb_ has quit IRC[20:35:23] *** TrentonAdams has joined #postfix[20:36:36] <TrentonAdams> Hey guys. I'd like one of my mail servers to ONLY relay stuff destined for my domains. As it is, if I have relay_host and relay_domains set, it will relay anything to relay_host that one of my permitted networks asks it to. But I don't want that. I want mail that's meant for an outside domain to immediately go out to that domain.[20:36:41] <TrentonAdams> How do I fix that?[20:39:45] <rob0> first thing, there is no relay_host, and relayhost has nothing to do with relay_domains[20:40:16] <rob0> I really can't tell what you are asking.[20:40:34] <rob0> "Dumb it down" for us.[20:40:53] <TrentonAdams> Yeah, I know relayhost has nothing to do with relay_domains, it only specifies where things get relayed to. But, when I remove that parameter, I get a loop error.[20:41:28] <thumbs> time for the /topic ?[20:41:34] <thumbs> !tell TrentonAdams welcome[20:41:35] <knoba> TrentonAdams: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[20:41:36] <rob0> see /topic and make a pastebin which shows the problem.[20:42:32] <TrentonAdams> I have a final destination server, that deals with all mail delivery for my domains. mail.example.com. mail3.example.com is supposed to relay all mail for example.com to mail.example.com, but nothing else. If a permitted network asks mail3 to send a message to me at gmail dot com it should not go through mail.example.com, it should just go directly to gmail.com.[20:42:34] <rob0> Typically, a site which is using relay_domains also has those domains listed in transport_maps, but I have no idea if that is the actual problem.[20:43:18] <TrentonAdams> rob0: Oh, I don't have transport_maps configured. How would I do that?[20:45:22] *** mooperd has joined #postfix[20:45:37] *** UQlev has quit IRC[20:48:09] <TrentonAdams> Yeah, I think transport_maps is what I'm looking for. Cause relayhost is not working the way I want, and without it I get mail looping errors.[20:48:22] <TrentonAdams> I can't seem to find a good example of transport_maps[20:50:05] <rob0> !transport[20:50:05] <knoba> rob0: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html[20:54:02] <TrentonAdams> thanks[20:55:19] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[20:55:55] *** mooperd has quit IRC[21:01:20] *** bkfitz has joined #postfix[21:19:05] *** d3c has joined #postfix[21:20:33] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[21:34:18] *** alexbst has quit IRC[21:34:59] *** Driver has joined #postfix[21:36:39] *** alexbst has joined #postfix[21:38:47] *** mechanicalduck has quit IRC[21:39:21] *** bkfitz has quit IRC[21:42:21] *** CheeToS` has joined #postfix[21:42:34] *** CheeToS` has left #postfix[21:43:55] *** wdp has joined #postfix[21:43:55] *** wdp has joined #postfix[21:45:29] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[22:07:06] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:07:40] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:07:58] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[22:21:13] *** master_o1_master has joined #postfix[22:24:23] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[22:25:48] *** Muyari77 has joined #postfix[22:27:26] *** Muyari77 has left #postfix[22:30:06] *** Muyari77 has joined #postfix[22:30:43] *** d3c has quit IRC[22:33:17] <Muyari77> anyone around I can ask a question or 2?[22:34:12] <Muyari77> !debug[22:34:12] <knoba> Muyari77: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[22:34:27] *** bkfitz has joined #postfix[22:35:10] <grknight> !tell Muyari77 ask[22:35:10] <knoba> Muyari77: "ask" : Please regard http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc and don't ask to ask, just ask. (after you've read 'getting help')[22:36:16] <Muyari77> I have been trying to solve this issue, I have ran throught he postfix install and all goes well untill i attempt to SMTP-AUTH[22:36:59] <Muyari77> and if i do ssh -v localhost 25 i get an error on the line when it attempts to provide port 25[22:37:23] <Muyari77> havent been able to find anything online in the past few days[22:37:35] <grknight> !tell Muyari77 tlstest[22:37:35] <knoba> Muyari77: "tlstest" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[22:37:50] <Muyari77> !tell Muyari77 tlstest[22:37:50] <knoba> Muyari77: "tlstest" : Starting with OpenSSL 0.9.7, you can test the server-side TLS with the following: openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect <hostname>:587 (or :25, accordingly).[22:38:45] *** mibofra is now known as mibofra_jabber[22:38:52] <Muyari77> i see i get connection refused[22:38:57] *** mibofra_jabber is now known as mibofra[22:39:22] <grknight> Muyari77: but besides your bad test try, what exactly is the issue? so far you have only told a story with a test attempt and no errors or what you expect[22:41:04] <Muyari77> sorry, i just attempted with port 25 and i am not at a line 250 dsn[22:41:09] *** TrentonAdams has left #postfix[22:41:09] <Muyari77> i need to read through this[22:45:11] *** mibofra is now known as mibofra_pidgin[22:45:27] *** mibofra_pidgin is now known as mibofra[22:45:50] *** wdp has quit IRC[22:45:58] <Muyari77> ehlo localhost[22:45:58] <Muyari77> 250-server1.example.com[22:45:58] <Muyari77> 250-PIPELINING[22:45:58] <Muyari77> 250-SIZE 10240000[22:45:58] <Muyari77> 250-VRFY[22:45:59] <Muyari77> 250-ETRN[22:45:59] <Muyari77> 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN[22:46:00] <Muyari77> 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN[22:46:00] <Muyari77> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES[22:46:00] <Muyari77> 250-8BITMIME[22:46:01] <Muyari77> 250 DSN[22:46:02] <Muyari77> is this what i should see?[22:46:24] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:47:09] <grknight> Muyari77: that's a successful connect yes, but don't flood the channel[22:47:17] <Muyari77> sorry[22:47:24] *** bkfitz has quit IRC[22:47:56] <grknight> still do not know what your real issue is.[22:48:13] <Muyari77> well when i attempt to ssh to localhost on 25[22:48:45] <grknight> Muyari77: you cannot use ssh the command[22:48:54] <Muyari77> and use -v all authentication seems to be successful but then gives me this error[22:48:56] <Muyari77> one sec[22:49:06] <Zerberus> Muyari77: that'[22:49:12] <Zerberus> sorry, that's nonsense[22:49:19] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[22:49:34] <Muyari77> debug1: Sending command: 25[22:49:46] <Muyari77> bash: 25: command not found[22:49:56] <Muyari77> debug1: Exit status 127[22:50:17] <grknight> Muyari77: you don't seem to know what you're doing[22:50:25] <Zerberus> Muyari77: you cannot use the SSH protocol to speak with your MTA which only speaks SMTP[22:50:55] <Zerberus> !tell Muyari77 why[22:50:55] <knoba> Muyari77: "why" : are you sure that installing, configuring and maintaining a mailserver is really what you want to do here? it's not something that's for the faint of heart, and definitely not something for folks that are still just learning the basics of linux or unix. also see !nullclient[22:50:59] <Muyari77> ok so telnet is my only option to test[22:51:59] <Muyari77> ok thanks for your help![22:54:08] *** Muyari77 has quit IRC[22:56:41] *** grknight has quit IRC[22:58:08] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[23:02:43] *** smue has quit IRC[23:07:17] *** bkfitz has joined #postfix[23:07:50] *** wald00 has quit IRC[23:14:00] *** wald00 has joined #postfix[23:14:48] *** smue has joined #postfix[23:18:12] *** bkfitz has quit IRC[23:28:17] *** cnu- has joined #postfix[23:30:08] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[23:31:19] *** mooperd has joined #postfix[23:32:05] *** nutron has joined #postfix[23:33:02] *** nutron has quit IRC[23:34:27] *** nutron has joined #postfix[23:39:39] *** freezey has quit IRC[23:56:22] *** whoami has quit IRC