July 1, 2012 
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#postfix[07:56:33] <Corey> jimpop: If it's from adaptr it may ivolve peen.[07:57:24] <jimpop> Corey: nope, this one came from a brit[07:57:30] <jimpop> or via a brit[08:23:40] *** Motoko has quit IRC[08:44:43] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[08:45:23] *** Silowyi has quit IRC[08:56:29] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:14:11] *** pw has quit IRC[09:18:07] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[09:20:07] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:21:22] *** elex1111111 has joined #postfix[09:21:56] *** pw has joined #postfix[09:22:56] *** elex1111110 has quit IRC[09:23:03] *** elex1111111 has quit IRC[09:39:55] *** RadoQ has quit IRC[10:17:14] *** RadoQ has joined #postfix[10:33:38] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[11:30:30] *** jkfod1 has joined #postfix[11:30:58] *** jkfod has quit IRC[11:37:40] *** wdp has quit IRC[11:50:15] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:50:21] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:13:59] *** p3rror has quit IRC[12:15:56] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:21:31] *** 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*** Tykling has quit IRC[14:28:33] <gadago> hi guys, I have two postfix servers (geographically separate locations and connections to the Internet) that it used for relaying outbound mail for my users. These server are sat behind a load-balancer and my user point at the loadbalancer to send email (redirecting the request to the postfix server(s). My problem is the reverse dns lookups.[14:29:43] <gadago> how can I get reverse dns to match for either smtp server when users are sending mail?[14:30:43] <adaptr> you get reverse DNS to match by having each server have proper reverse DNS[14:30:54] <adaptr> !tell gadago fcrdns[14:30:55] <knoba> gadago: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : your IP address should resolve to $myhostname, which in turn should resolve back to your IP. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost[14:31:49] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[14:32:11] <gadago> adaptr: so the $hostname for each server should be different?[14:32:13] <rob0> I think you might be looking for the sender_dependent_* features added in Postfix 2.7, see the 2.7 release notes. You probably will not be able to use the loadbalancer.[14:32:36] <rob0> The quest for the Perfect Headers ...[14:33:35] <gadago> and then the reverse dns for each server should match right?[14:33:41] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[14:35:30] <rob0> What are you asking? Was that not already answered by adaptr and the bot?[14:36:06] <gadago> rob0: so the $hostname for each server should be different? and then the reverse dns for each server should match right?[14:36:07] <adaptr> what, exactly, is the point in having a loadbalancer when they servers are geographically distant ? a loadbalancer balances *load*. if the load is not more than a single server can handle, it serves no purpose.[14:36:58] <adaptr> rob0: if I had a nickel for everybody who abused load balancing, I'd be able to buy myself a big mac[14:36:58] <gadago> adaptr: the main purpose is failover. but it still helps with *load*.[14:37:10] <adaptr> gadago: no. a load balancer is NEVER an HA solution.[14:37:18] <adaptr> if it is, then don't call it a "load balancer"[14:37:35] *** Tykling has quit IRC[14:38:32] *** p3rror has quit IRC[14:38:56] <gadago> adaptr: using priority and weighting on a loadbalancer can achieve failover. Why else would the loadbalancer perform 'health-checks' against the backend servers?[14:39:39] <adaptr> read what I said.[14:40:31] <adaptr> anyway, if it can do all that, why aren't you using the same for outbound traffic ?[14:42:37] <gadago> adaptr: I didn't come here to argue about load-balancers and what they do/are for. The fact is, the product I use IS a 'load-balancer'. The fact I'm using it to serve another purpose as well, doesn't mean referring to it as a load-balancer is wrong.[14:44:41] <adaptr> seeing as your problem stems from using 2 servers behind this "load balancer", I'd say it is germane[14:45:09] <adaptr> if the "load balancer" can solve the problem for you, that would be the simplest solution[14:45:16] <rob0> I still am not sure what you are after. It sounds like you might be misunderstanding some email basics. When a mail exchanger receives a connection from another MTA as client, it looks up the PTR for that client. Then the PTR value is looked up to confirm the client hostname.[14:46:01] <gadago> rob0: so yes, I need to use the $myhostname value as the reverse dns entry[14:46:44] <adaptr> ...no, you need to use the PTR record as the A label[14:46:52] <adaptr> it's unrelated to *postfix*[14:47:40] <gadago> adaptr: yes, I understand that A label need to match also.[14:47:58] <adaptr> there is no "alos", you're completely failing to understand[14:48:56] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[14:49:01] <gadago> adaptr: alos?[14:49:30] <adaptr> _also_[14:50:38] <gadago> adaptr: ip_of_server = dnsname = ip_of_server. I get it okay.[14:59:26] *** schnatta has joined #postfix[15:02:51] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[15:03:59] *** Tykling has quit IRC[15:04:45] *** fken has joined #postfix[15:05:20] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[15:13:57] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[15:15:26] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[15:27:01] *** omersimanovsky has joined #postfix[15:27:33] *** omersimanovsky has quit IRC[15:55:54] *** schnatta has quit IRC[16:11:36] *** jkfod has quit IRC[16:22:20] *** Tykling has quit IRC[16:23:42] *** davlefou has quit IRC[16:23:43] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[16:23:46] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[16:35:05] *** p3rror has quit IRC[16:42:56] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[16:45:03] *** Tykling has quit IRC[16:49:57] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[16:54:34] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[16:55:15] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[16:55:17] *** p3rror has quit IRC[16:55:46] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[17:00:05] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[17:20:53] *** e-anima has quit IRC[17:24:18] *** koshie has quit IRC[17:24:33] *** koshie has joined #postfix[17:36:16] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[17:36:57] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[17:36:58] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:42:40] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[17:54:17] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[17:54:26] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[17:59:34] *** d3c has joined #postfix[18:04:21] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[18:13:18] *** Tykling has quit IRC[18:23:58] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[18:27:43] *** jlt has joined #postfix[18:31:24] *** Tykling has quit IRC[18:39:56] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[18:43:32] *** p3rror has quit IRC[18:59:04] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[19:04:09] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[19:04:15] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[19:05:41] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[19:22:16] *** nephfl has joined #postfix[19:23:15] <nephfl> hello, my syslog stops logging postfix occasionally and I'm not sure where the issue may be[19:23:37] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[19:24:43] <adaptr> I remember you having problems with basic troubleshooting and service configuration before[19:24:44] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[19:24:46] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[19:24:56] <adaptr> so my WAG would be.. you messed it up.[19:25:18] <rob0> in any case, it's a syslogd problem, not a Postfix problem[19:26:03] *** chazcafe has joined #postfix[19:26:28] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[19:26:37] *** chazcafe has joined #postfix[19:27:40] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[19:28:55] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[19:33:30] *** chazcafe has left #postfix[19:33:53] *** chazcafe has joined #postfix[19:50:54] *** elex1111110 has joined #postfix[19:51:25] *** d3c has quit IRC[19:52:14] *** nzero has joined #postfix[19:54:31] *** snearch has joined #postfix[20:02:51] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[20:10:03] *** uqlev has quit IRC[20:27:14] *** Tykling has quit IRC[20:29:13] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[20:36:18] *** lacrosse1991 has joined #postfix[20:36:31] <lacrosse1991> hello[20:37:27] <lacrosse1991> i was wondering if i could get some advice for a problem I am having with getting outlook clients to connect to my server?[20:38:07] <rob0> heh, sure. :) Don't support outlook.[20:38:11] <rob0> !otlook[20:38:11] <knoba> rob0: Error: "otlook" is not a valid command.[20:38:15] <rob0> !outlook[20:38:15] <knoba> rob0: "outlook" : MS Outlook has numerous problems with TLS and AUTH support. Try using a better client to troubleshoot your Postfix server's AUTH features; then once you know it works, you can go back and break it such that Outlook will work. See the following MS KB article to enable transport logging in Outlook that may be of some help in troubleshooting, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300479/en-us[20:39:59] <lacrosse1991> well auth/tsl works perfectly fine on other clients, I honestly could give a fuck about outlook lol, it just irks me that I cant get it to connect over tls :)[20:41:24] <lacrosse1991> is outlook pretty much out of the question when it comes to postfix?[20:42:26] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[20:42:50] <rob0> uh, no, but it does not interest me to fix the problem unless I'm being paid, and if I am being paid, I strongly recommend to use better clients for many reasons.[20:42:57] *** amir__ is now known as amir[20:43:10] <rob0> You can google a few million posts on the mailing list and probably find your issue.[20:45:05] <lacrosse1991> ah ok, Think i may just ignore it then as the email server is serving a small group of people, plus I would be even more concerned if one of them were using outlook as their regular client[20:45:32] *** Kellin has quit IRC[20:46:10] <rob0> Outlook is a (the?) major for a certain class of malware.[20:46:18] <rob0> *major vector[20:47:14] *** snearch has quit IRC[20:48:19] <lacrosse1991> yup, i would even go so far as to say windows in general, have been working on setting up a debian desktop, but unfortunately there are still a few programs that are keeping me from being able to completely ditch windows[20:50:53] <rob0> well yeah, pretty much all significant client-side malware is for Windows. But a lot of bots are going around looking for Unix hosts too.[20:52:26] <lacrosse1991> indeed, at least things seem to be more concrete in linux/unix when it comes to viewing that sort of activity, whereas it would be childs play to setup an active logscanner such as fail2ban in debian, i would imagine that doing the same with windows would be a[20:52:32] <lacrosse1991> more drawn out process[20:54:42] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[20:54:55] *** koshie has quit IRC[20:55:10] *** koshie has joined #postfix[20:59:02] *** agronholm has joined #postfix[20:59:10] <agronholm> !debug[20:59:10] <knoba> agronholm: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[21:03:29] *** lunaphyte__ has joined #postfix[21:04:23] *** lunaphyte__ has quit IRC[21:08:04] *** lacrosse1991 has left #postfix[21:08:59] <agronholm> I have a problem with one of my mail servers -- it refuses to send mail ANYWHERE -- logs: http://dpaste.com/766100/ config: http://dpaste.com/766101/[21:09:22] <agronholm> it doesn't try to contact outside smtp servers -- it just bounces all the mail[21:09:29] <agronholm> and doesn't tell me why[21:10:39] <rob0> default_transport = error[21:13:24] <agronholm> whoa...I had that on my other mail server too, I wonder where that came from[21:14:08] <agronholm> rob0: thanks for pointing it out[21:15:32] <rob0> it looks like a Debian-generated thing[21:22:54] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[21:26:15] *** nephfl has quit IRC[21:39:35] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[21:40:33] *** grefter has quit IRC[21:40:40] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[21:42:37] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[21:42:45] *** uqlev has quit IRC[21:45:57] *** Areckx has joined #postfix[21:46:06] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[21:49:37] *** feng-fr has joined #postfix[21:50:02] <feng-fr> hi there, I followed https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Postfix I now can send email BUT can't connect to email accounts (using pop3 or webmail (roundcube))[21:50:17] <feng-fr> does anyone can teach me please ?[21:50:53] *** agronholm has left #postfix[21:53:30] <rob0> !pop3[21:53:30] <knoba> rob0: "pop3" : POP3 is an application layer Internet protocol, superceded by IMAP (see !imap), that allows a client (MUA) to access email on a remote server. Postfix does not provide POP3 (or IMAP) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[21:56:05] <feng-fr> hm[21:56:15] <feng-fr> well I note that :D[21:56:21] <feng-fr> wrong channel then ![21:56:25] <feng-fr> ty[21:56:30] *** feng-fr has left #postfix[22:04:10] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[22:04:10] *** Kellin has joined #postfix[22:04:46] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[22:05:16] *** s0ber has quit IRC[22:06:24] *** s0ber has joined #postfix[22:07:15] *** fken has quit IRC[22:13:07] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[22:14:58] *** grefter has joined #postfix[22:18:28] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:24:04] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:26:29] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[22:28:26] *** p3rror has quit IRC[22:33:16] *** lysander is now known as DonAlejandro[22:33:18] *** DonAlejandro is now known as lysander[22:33:30] *** nzero has quit IRC[22:36:06] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[22:44:33] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:47:05] *** gadago has quit IRC[22:54:38] *** elex1111110 has quit IRC[22:55:25] *** elex1111110 has joined #postfix[22:55:58] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[23:00:53] *** nb has quit IRC[23:05:20] *** nb has joined #postfix[23:06:36] *** Tykling has quit IRC[23:11:56] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[23:12:54] *** Tykling has quit IRC[23:16:54] *** elex1111110 has quit IRC[23:23:23] *** Silowyi has joined #postfix[23:24:59] *** e-anima has quit IRC[23:29:28] *** jkfod has quit IRC[23:37:57] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[23:44:30] *** schnatta has joined #postfix[23:46:16] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[23:47:59] *** devxdev has joined #postfix