June 29, 2012 
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June 29, 2012 [00:03:14] *** nephfl has joined #postfix[00:03:28] <nephfl> hey, anyone here familiar with haproxy?[00:04:25] <tharkun> nephfl: you are the expert :-)[00:05:55] <nephfl> if only that were the case... I have managed to get it up and running...but I need to control it now... but it doesn't like the stats socket directive...[00:06:45] <adaptr> nephfl: does the name of this channel resemble #haproxy ?[00:07:28] <nephfl> it was someone in this channel that suggested I use haproxy, so I thought it was a fair chance that someone here had used it with postfix in a similar way that I am working on[00:07:48] <adaptr> that would appear to be the arse-forward method of system administration[00:07:51] <adaptr> please don't do that[00:08:48] *** ChikuLinu__ has joined #postfix[00:09:31] *** Chiku|dc has quit IRC[00:11:43] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[00:18:03] *** TRUNASUCI has left #postfix[00:19:55] *** eam has quit IRC[00:24:28] <tharkun> postconf -n |grep -c mysql[00:24:30] <tharkun> 0[00:24:35] <tharkun> :)[00:24:53] <adaptr> we're proud of you[00:25:38] <tharkun> well Its been a pain. The version of mysql on this server is fubared so backups have been done manually to sqlite to keep things running[00:25:45] *** eam has joined #postfix[00:26:15] <tharkun> Two boxes with the same problem. Some blackops SQL admin long ago[00:38:59] *** nephfl has quit IRC[00:41:50] *** amir has quit IRC[00:44:14] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[00:49:41] <tharkun> !sasl[00:49:41] <knoba> tharkun: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[00:55:27] *** Tormin has quit IRC[01:01:23] <adaptr> !thumbs[01:01:23] <knoba> adaptr: "thumbs" : (#1) Those opposable things which keep those apes dominant over cats, or (#2) The other bot in the channel[01:01:33] *** Tormin has joined #postfix[01:06:31] <pj> someone should have at least told him that haproxy support is available only in the latest development version of postfix.[01:07:59] <adaptr> I would have eventually gotten to that - once he explained why he thinks he needed it[01:08:06] <pj> fair enough[01:08:47] <adaptr> if he needs to ask questions about volume, he doesn't HAVE volume, ergo doesn't need to be messing with technologies he doesn't comprehend[01:09:11] <rob0> That one sounds like he's in over his head. Asking on IRC, but needs to be spending money on a consultant.[01:09:31] <thumbs> hire rob![01:09:41] <adaptr> I find the volume question to be an efficient yardstick.[01:09:41] <pj> I honestly don't think that haproxy is needed anyways, people were pumping far more volume of email through postfix then he's likely to need for ages now and without using haproxy.[01:10:14] <rob0> well, we don't know what kind of volume he has, but I get the impression that it is a lot.[01:10:54] <adaptr> where ever did you get that impression ? he gave next to no information[01:11:12] <rob0> just the type of questions[01:11:13] *** Eagleman7 has left #postfix[01:11:24] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[01:12:11] <adaptr> he asked just 2, both of which were rather dumb. one was a backwards question about what volume a single instance SHOULD handle, not what it prvably CAN handle[01:12:26] <adaptr> and then a question about haproxy without relating it to postfix in any way whatsoever[01:19:58] <rob0> he has 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IRC[09:19:20] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[09:19:57] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:20:38] *** cyrilz_ has joined #postfix[09:28:51] *** TRUNASUCI has joined #postfix[09:30:02] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[09:46:22] *** Aurica has quit IRC[09:51:01] *** e-ndy has quit IRC[09:51:48] *** e-ndy has joined #postfix[10:03:21] *** rzimmermann has joined #postfix[10:05:17] *** dark-sun has joined #postfix[10:05:21] <dark-sun> hi people[10:05:39] <dark-sun> I've installed postfix on my debian, but i can't get any email[10:05:55] <dark-sun> how can I track this issue?[10:08:01] <dark-sun> any idea?[10:10:24] <JPT> postfix needs a configuration. start by going through the logs.[10:11:26] *** kmq has joined #postfix[10:13:13] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[10:13:55] <UQlev> dark-sun: have you tried direct "telnet your.mail.host 25" to send message?[10:14:35] *** Areckx has joined #postfix[10:26:23] <dark-sun> UQlev✪ i followed http://www.wikihow.com/Send-Email-Using-Telnet, in the final part it said: ok: queue as 8947C8D646[10:26:44] <dark-sun> now I should consider it sent?[10:27:38] <UQlev> dark-sun: you may consider it "sent" but not "delivered" yet[10:29:21] <dark-sun> actually I've sent it to a localmail address. (i've installed 'dovecot' as a local imap server)[10:30:03] <dark-sun> inbox appeared empty so far[10:30:55] *** TRUNASUCI is now known as TRUNASUCI-afk[10:31:58] <dark-sun> still empty UQlev[10:32:12] <UQlev> dark-sun: every test of your server you should perform watchin your logfiles[10:32:17] *** Motoko has quit IRC[10:32:26] <UQlev> dark-sun: watching[10:32:52] <dark-sun> UQlev✪ that's what I'm looking for dude[10:33:01] <dark-sun> where are those logs?[10:33:19] <UQlev> are you looking for logs in inbox?[10:33:51] <UQlev> logs are to be in /var/log/maillog[10:35:15] <dark-sun> UQlev✪ that's /var/log/mail.log, i found it myself.[10:36:00] * dark-sun thinks who might look for a log file in the inbox... [weird][10:37:12] <UQlev> dark-sun: JPT first told you about logfile a half an hour ago[10:39:06] <dark-sun> it's a useless argument[10:40:39] <dark-sun> looks like it's sent http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1065668/[10:45:35] *** kmq has quit IRC[10:48:03] *** blodan-work has joined #postfix[10:48:12] <blodan-work> anyone know if its valid to put aaaa in your spf record or if you have to do ip6:xxx:xxx:xxx...?[10:49:39] <JPT> a:your.hostname.tld will work for aaaa, too[10:49:56] <JPT> [according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework][10:50:38] <blodan-work> right, so as long as i have a aaaa record for the root domain it should be fine then, thanks![10:50:38] <blodan-work> :)[10:51:01] <blodan-work> (already have "a" in the spf-record already)[10:51:16] *** Jaac has quit IRC[10:51:42] *** kmq has joined #postfix[10:58:53] *** bzcg has joined #postfix[11:01:00] *** cfrog has joined #postfix[11:01:22] <cfrog> Hi, I'm setting up postfix to use procmail and in the log it says "delivered to command: procmail -a "$DOMAIN"" but then nothing happens, it looks like procmail is not reading my /etc/procmailrc because I enabled verbose and specified a log file but the file isn't even created[11:02:10] <_ruben> sounds like a procmail issue then[11:04:48] <cfrog> yeah I know but the procmail chan is really dead and I guess a lot of postfix users use procmail so maybe someone knows the problem :)[11:05:26] <UQlev> cfrog: create yourself procmail's log with proper ownership[11:06:03] <cfrog> ok I'll try that, thanks[11:12:20] <cfrog> Good the log works now, thank you! Now I see that procmail put the message into Folder: /home/contact/Maildir/msg.eAAT, why not in the new directory? I could change the MAILDIR in procmailrc to $HOME/Maildir/new but is it the proper way to it?[11:12:33] *** lysander_ has quit IRC[11:15:07] <dark-sun> how can I tell postfix to store emails related to my domain in a path?[11:15:31] <dark-sun> I can't see anything about it here http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#myorigin[11:16:02] *** lysander has joined #postfix[11:17:34] <UQlev> cfrog: this is matter of procmail setting. why don't use dovecot LDA?[11:18:29] *** dark-sun has quit IRC[11:19:57] *** kmq has quit IRC[11:20:49] *** kmq has joined #postfix[11:22:14] *** TRUNASUCI-afk is now known as TRUNASUCI[11:22:49] *** bzcg has quit IRC[11:27:17] *** kmq has quit IRC[11:27:21] <cfrog> UQlev i'm looking up dovecot LDA but what i'm actually trying to do is scanning mails with spamassassin and clamav (that is working nicely) and then deliver to my mailbox, I was told to use procmail to do that[11:28:13] *** kmq has joined #postfix[11:29:17] <UQlev> cfrog: if your server is not big it is more efficient to scan before queueing via amavisd or clamsmtpd[11:30:23] <UQlev> cfrog: scan after queue mostly used when need individual scan profile for each account[11:32:22] <UQlev> cfrog: do you use postscreen or something equal?[11:32:48] <cfrog> UQlev yes yes that's what I do, I think so at least, I followed this how to http://syslog.tv/2011/09/16/postfix-spamassassin-clamav-procmail/[11:33:08] <cfrog> no I don't know what is postscreen[11:34:31] <cfrog> the spamassassin, clamstpd part is working well I think, the problem is now to deliver the message in the right directory[11:34:48] <UQlev> cfrog: postscreen if 1st line of antispam defense to filter on helo, RBL etc basis[11:35:58] <UQlev> cfrog: scanning all spam is very costly, spammers will put your server down[11:36:25] <cfrog> even though it's a very little domain with a few emails ?[11:36:43] <cfrog> a few email addresses*[11:36:59] <UQlev> even though[11:38:03] <cfrog> hmm ok thank you for the information, I'll look into that postscreen afterward[11:38:04] <UQlev> cfrog: if rate of receiving will exceed rate of scanning you will get queue flood[11:38:22] *** oles has joined #postfix[11:40:53] <cfrog> UQlev is postscreen doing greylisting or something different?[11:41:03] <oles> hi[11:41:39] <oles> is it possible to store mail database in mysql ?[11:42:17] <oles> or postfix can store it only in file system database[11:42:25] <UQlev> cfrog: postscreen mostly filters against public black-lists[11:47:01] <UQlev> cfrog: for a small domain spamassassin is not efficient because of low traffic you will probably want postscreen only[11:47:30] *** kmq has quit IRC[11:48:35] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[11:49:12] <UQlev> cfrog: I have a few small servers too, and last trojan was cought by clamav 2 years ago[11:50:05] <UQlev> cfrog: mail-viruses are not in fashion any more[11:50:36] <cfrog> UQlev you think I should disable clamsftpd ?[11:50:48] <cfrog> clamsmtpd*[11:51:13] <UQlev> no need to disable it[11:51:53] <UQlev> I am still running it and maintaining[11:52:42] <__gilles> hi[11:53:46] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[11:56:58] *** Jaac has joined #postfix[12:09:46] *** nzero has joined #postfix[12:11:11] *** TRUNASUCI has quit IRC[12:16:44] *** amir has joined #postfix[12:39:06] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[12:40:26] *** amir has quit IRC[12:42:55] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[12:52:22] *** Nako has joined #postfix[12:56:22] *** snearch has joined #postfix[13:00:14] *** amir_ has joined #postfix[13:03:43] *** nzero has quit IRC[13:03:53] *** Bry8Star{EB has quit IRC[13:04:33] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:07:31] *** Bry8Star{EB has joined #postfix[13:09:19] *** enoch has joined #postfix[13:09:23] <enoch> hi all[13:09:37] <enoch> i have a lot of "master" processes running, is it normal?[13:10:55] *** cfrog has quit IRC[13:11:38] *** nzero has joined #postfix[13:11:39] *** cfrog has joined #postfix[13:13:19] *** masterhumper is now known as sejo[13:19:07] <colo-work> is there a sensible way to have postfix execute a script whenever a sasl-authenticated user tries to send mail via postfix' smtpd? (we'd like to deny users sending email if a number of conditions is met)[13:27:30] *** Bry8Star{EB has quit IRC[13:27:41] *** enoch has quit IRC[13:29:31] *** Bry8Star{EB has joined #postfix[13:29:36] <jduggan> colo-work: how about using a policy daemon?[13:30:42] *** jkfod has quit IRC[13:57:06] *** gavit has joined #postfix[13:57:15] <gavit> I have postfix installed and listening on all ports -> tcp 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN 328/master[13:57:35] <gavit> yet when I telnet to port 25 from outside I get a timeout, is there anything in main.cf that I should double check?[13:59:38] <_ruben> local or remote firewall is more likely the cause[14:04:23] *** gavit has quit IRC[14:04:54] *** gavit has joined #postfix[14:11:50] *** hardmaster has joined #postfix[14:16:09] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:25:37] *** ondrejk_ has left #postfix[14:25:57] *** gavit has quit IRC[14:26:25] *** gavit has joined #postfix[14:32:46] <gavit> _ruben, local shouldn't be an issue as firewalls ussually allow me to mail :P[14:33:10] *** gavit has quit IRC[14:33:36] *** gavit has joined #postfix[14:33:57] <gavit> bleh too much disconnects[14:34:32] <gavit> _ruben, http://pastie.org/4171014[14:36:24] <patdk-wk_> gavit, read that again[14:36:28] <patdk-wk_> local or REMOTE firewall[14:36:52] <patdk-wk_> what ip address is this *server* on?[14:36:56] *** patdk-wk_ is now known as patdk-wk[14:38:26] *** gvt has joined #postfix[14:40:21] *** gavit has quit IRC[14:41:48] <gvt> yay was my gateway :)[14:42:13] <gvt> now to figure out why outlook gives me a 0x080040607 error[14:43:11] *** hardmaster has left #postfix[14:43:23] *** hardmaster has joined #postfix[14:45:20] *** hardmaster has left #postfix[14:45:26] *** hardmaster has joined #postfix[14:46:34] *** hardmaster has joined #postfix[14:49:43] *** nzero has left #postfix[14:50:38] *** hardmaster has quit IRC[14:51:35] <gvt> when trying to transfer a mail server from courier to postfix, would yoou first move the sending(SMTP/POSTFIX) or the receiving (IMAP/dovecot)?[14:54:21] * patdk-wk wonders how you determins sending == postfix, and receiving == dovecot[14:55:18] <tuxick> ack[14:55:33] <gvt> patdk-wk, dovecot is a imap server right? and they recommend postfix as smtp[14:55:48] <patdk-wk> yes, but that has nothing to do with *sending* and *receiving*[14:55:54] <Dominian> an MTA does both sending and receiving..[14:56:02] <Dominian> dovecot is not an MTA[14:56:27] <gvt> patdk-wk, that's where I probably went wrong[14:56:30] <patdk-wk> dovecot used to only send to client software, but lately it is nice to use for receiving also[14:56:53] <gvt> patdk-wk, now you're confusing me[14:57:01] * gvt is trying to move AWAY from courier[14:57:24] <patdk-wk> imap/pop only SEND mail to client (well imap can receive also, but that is rarely used)[14:57:49] *** gvt has quit IRC[14:58:06] *** gvt has joined #postfix[14:58:16] *** mandragor has quit IRC[14:58:39] <gvt> patdk-wk, aah, okay. that's clear then[14:58:50] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:59:31] <gvt> patdk-wk, so my decision to start with postfix before dovecot although incorrectly founded seems to be a correct one after all :p[14:59:47] <patdk-wk> doesn't really matter in the long run[14:59:54] <patdk-wk> you have to have both working to do anything useful[15:00:02] <patdk-wk> though as postfix is so much easier[15:00:10] <patdk-wk> I would work on dovecot first[15:00:19] <gvt> patdk-wk, hahaha, okay[15:00:23] <patdk-wk> since your choices in dovecot can affect postfix[15:00:24] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:00:32] <gvt> patdk-wk, okay, thanks for the advice[15:00:38] <patdk-wk> it's not likely anything you do in postfix will affect dovecot[15:00:45] * gvt gets the dovecot manual :)[15:02:32] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:02:32] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:04:06] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[15:06:34] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:14:48] *** snearch has quit IRC[15:15:27] *** cfrog has quit IRC[15:19:50] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[15:19:51] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[15:21:21] <gvt> patdk-wk, I have a question, let's say I have a dovecotserver, a postfixserver an ldap server and a fileserver. Is it possible to make a virtual user on dovecot, in ldap to specify the fileserver as homedir to be used for mails for postfix?[15:27:36] <colo-work> is there a skeleton policy server implemented in Python available for postfix?[15:28:33] <patdk-wk> gvt, it's your system, you can do anything you can imagine :)[15:28:45] <patdk-wk> how easy that is, depends on your knowledge though[15:29:29] <gvt> patdk-wk, lets start with system users then :P[15:32:03] <Dominian> colo-work: policyd maybe?[15:42:36] <colo-work> Dominian, written in Perl, is it not?[15:42:55] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[15:43:30] <Dominian> oh you said python[15:43:31] <Dominian> nevermind[15:48:50] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[15:49:22] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:57:24] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[15:58:03] <Eagleman> Is postfix able to use a remote SMTP Server?[15:59:19] <UQlev> Eagleman: I beg your pardon?..[15:59:51] <UQlev> Eagleman: do you mean remote relayhost?[15:59:57] <Eagleman> I think so[16:00:11] <UQlev> if so, then yes[16:00:16] <Eagleman> Not sure if its working since my SMTP server is marked as a spam server[16:00:53] <UQlev> there might be reason for it[16:01:02] <Eagleman> residental IP[16:01:29] <UQlev> Eagleman: dynamic?[16:01:32] <Eagleman> yes[16:01:55] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[16:02:02] <Eagleman> So will it work if i use a relayhost?[16:02:43] <UQlev> http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Postfix_configured_with_Gmail_SMTP[16:05:10] *** pj-phone has joined #postfix[16:05:15] <Eagleman> All i have to do is add this:[16:05:15] <Eagleman> relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587[16:05:38] <Eagleman> My ISP's SMTP Server also requires authentication[16:10:03] <oles> are master, smtpd, cleanup single processes or just a part of main process?[16:16:09] <pj-phone> they are separate[16:20:54] *** pj-phone has quit IRC[16:22:49] <tharkun> oles: they are separate but master calls each one of them according to master.cf[16:24:08] <tharkun> Eagleman: take a look at smtp_sasl_* they will give you a nice idea on what you need to set up[16:30:43] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[16:31:34] <phantasm66> question about queue expiry (maximal_queue_lifetime)... i assume that applies to messages in the 'deferred' queue only, correct?[16:32:00] <phantasm66> question may sound retarded.. but i found no explicit documentation on it[16:33:47] <patdk-wk> it doesn't affect incoming or hold queues[16:36:44] <phantasm66> what about the active queue?[16:39:57] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[16:42:25] <patdk-wk> stuff shouldn't be in the active queue for more than a few seconds[16:42:36] <patdk-wk> it should either go away, or go to deferred[16:43:27] <gvt> patdk-wk, meh, fileserver + dovecot + ldap = NFS? /sigh[16:44:19] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[16:48:10] <phantasm66> patdk-wk: true, but a dedicated slow transport MTA could potentially take in more than it's concurrency out is... thus making an active queue grow..[16:48:42] <phantasm66> anyway, i think you answered the question.. thanks :)[16:51:44] <tharkun> gvt: it can be achieved ldap+dovecot+postfix. dovecot is capable of asking ldap about mail dirs on the filesystem. Further assistance on the dovecot end should be on #dovecot.[16:56:01] <patdk-wk> phantasm66, ya, but I don't believe it will purge it, till it goes back to deferred though[16:56:05] <patdk-wk> but don't quote me on that :)[16:56:45] <phantasm66> makes sense.. thanks![16:59:11] *** yangchang has joined #postfix[16:59:40] <gvt> tharkun, I know, but I'll need to mount a remote filesystem[17:00:22] <tharkun> gvt: why?[17:00:37] <gvt> tharkun, I want the hoome dirs on the fileserver[17:00:47] <gvt> which will not be the dovecot/postfix server[17:01:13] *** Silowyi has joined #postfix[17:01:43] <tharkun> gvt: I will play devils advocat, why would you want to do that?[17:02:01] <tharkun> s/advocat/advocate/[17:02:12] <gvt> tharkun, so I don't have to make backups of the mailserver daily[17:03:09] *** Nako has quit IRC[17:03:51] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:04:16] <tharkun> gvt: beeing honest that is not a valid reason. Backups is a completely different beast from e-mail. Think exactly why you need backups how you want your server to behave and come up with a different less convoluted solution[17:05:01] * patdk-wk wonders why backing up a fileserver would be any easier or simpler than backing up an email server[17:05:27] <patdk-wk> personally I wouldn't want to mix the backups of the two, cause they act totally different[17:05:33] <gvt> patdk-wk, not easier/simpler, just need to backup 1 server rather than 2[17:05:41] <gvt> patdk-wk, I got 1 tapedrive[17:06:14] <lunaphyte> this is a non problem.[17:06:26] <gvt> meh Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table, back to the google-board[17:20:21] <gvt> when trying to send a mail via telnet it seems to succeed, however with outlook I get error 80040607, does this have anything to do with me being on 10.2.2.0 and the server being on 10.3.3.0? and is this a dovecot or a postfix issue?[17:21:08] <tuxick> or a lookout problem[17:21:25] <gvt> tuxick, or that ^^[17:21:39] <patdk-wk> you telnetted from the outlook machine?[17:22:07] * patdk-wk also wonders why no logs[17:22:11] <patdk-wk> and no config[17:22:16] <patdk-wk> !tell gvt welcome[17:22:16] <knoba> gvt: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[17:23:11] <gvt> patdk-wk, http://pastie.org/private/t0wi2huvvdj0qtorc3zywq <- yes the outlook machine[17:24:16] <gvt> http://pastie.org/private/yossgpsmhmmogceb61vpw <- logs, hmm, I'll redo the telnet experiment as I hadn't updated the permissions on the folder yet[17:26:29] *** nzero has joined #postfix[17:27:56] <gvt> meh test at domain dot com doesn't exists which causes the error[17:30:00] <tharkun> gvt: test you system with an appropiate user.[17:45:35] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[17:47:52] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[17:52:49] <gvt> http://wiki.dovecot.org/MboxLocking <- in dovecot I set mbox_read_locks = fcntl and mbox_write_locks = dotlock fcntl, but I cant find the mailbox_delivery_lock = fcntl, dotlock in postfix/main.cf[17:53:05] <gvt> is it possible that the dovecot manual is outdated?[17:53:36] <tharkun> gvt: Does this look like #dovecot to you?[17:56:00] <gvt> tharkun, no, but I'm not sure if this is a postfix or a dovecot issue. postconf -d |grep mailbox_delivery_lock gives me mailbox_delivery_lock = fcntl, dotlock[17:56:00] <gvt> which looks like it should be correct[17:57:26] <gvt> the <user> also has RW permission on parent dir of ~<user>[17:57:33] <gvt> the <user> also has RW permission on parent dir of ~<user>/mailbox*[17:58:35] *** UQlev has quit IRC[18:22:02] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[18:22:02] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[18:22:58] *** a90342 has quit IRC[18:27:11] *** gvt has quit IRC[18:27:59] *** hyper_ch has joined #postfix[18:30:30] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have a header_check pcre file among others, containing a REJECT line depending on the subject "offizielle sieger". But some email with such subject was accepted just fine. Rule and email headers are here: http://pastebin.com/d24M1rNL[18:30:54] *** rzimmermann has quit IRC[18:33:32] *** RadoQ has joined #postfix[18:33:32] *** RadoQ has joined #postfix[18:35:08] *** a90342 has joined #postfix[18:40:31] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[18:42:36] *** gavit has joined #postfix[18:43:48] *** higuita has joined #postfix[18:49:58] <gavit> I get Relay access denied; for mailing to gmail. I am emailing from 10.2.2.0/28 and I specified mynetworks = 10.2.2.0/28, 10.3.3.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8 in main.cf and restarted postfix I doubt I need a relayhost, but how would I test that?[18:50:14] <Dominian> !relay_denied[18:50:14] <knoba> Dominian: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[18:50:46] <Dominian> It's best to not include everything you want to be able to relay via $mynetworks, but to utilize SASL and submission if possible.[18:51:03] <Dominian> That way you can stop any rogue viruses/spyware from using you as a relay, even from $mynetworks hosts[18:51:45] <gavit> hmm, I thought it would allow from mynetworks (I understand your point, but I want to see if it works first before adding auth)[18:51:58] <Dominian> It should allow mynetworks to relay sure[18:52:10] <Dominian> If you can show the logs of a denied relay.. might help[18:52:22] <gavit> I am in mynetworks (10.2.2.237) vs mynetworks = 10.2.2.0/28, 10.3.3.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8[18:52:39] <Dominian> hrm[18:52:43] <gavit> http://pastie.org/private/j9ind4ktgjfjmds6wnncw[18:52:46] <Dominian> um[18:52:58] <Dominian> 10.2.2.237, if I'm doing my subnetting right, doesn't fall under 10.2.2.0/28[18:53:07] <Dominian> or does it.. shit let me look[18:53:17] <gavit> 32-8 = 24 sorry[18:53:19] <gavit> you're right[18:53:42] <Dominian> ok.. does your mynetworks setting specify /24?[18:53:44] <Dominian> or /28[18:54:09] <Dominian> if it were set to /28, that would be why[18:54:14] <gavit> Dominian, it specified /28 but it should have been /24[18:54:19] <Dominian> yeah[18:54:42] <Dominian> so mynetworks = 10.2.2.0/24, 10.3.3.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8?[18:55:05] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[18:55:22] <Dominian> postconf -n might help to a pastebin as well if you don't mind[18:56:43] <rob0> heh, and here I was thinking wow, this guy's cool with those non-/24 subnets :)[18:56:53] <Dominian> hah[18:57:16] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[18:57:52] <Dominian> Well, I'm guessing it worked?[18:58:01] *** yangchang has quit IRC[18:58:19] <gavit> odd now it seems to leave, but not arrive[18:58:40] <Dominian> mailq[18:58:40] <gavit> http://pastie.org/4172460[18:59:02] <Dominian> connection timed out.. port 25[18:59:11] <Dominian> Jun 29 13:57:59 localhost postfix/smtp[2382]: connect to alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.79.27]: Connection timed out (port 25)[18:59:47] <rob0> !port_25_block[18:59:47] <knoba> rob0: "port_25_block" : Many consumer-grade ISPs (and some which claim to be for business, such as Godaddy) block outbound port 25/tcp traffic to prevent abuse from their network. If your ISP does this, you should see the !basic and !relayhost factoids. Or, upgrade to business-class service (or change ISP if you already had it.)[19:01:35] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[19:04:34] <gavit> whohoo[19:04:45] <gavit> I had added a firewall rule, but wrote block rather than pass :)[19:04:50] *** gaberlunzie has joined #postfix[19:04:57] <Dominian> that'd do it[19:05:16] *** gaberlunzie has left #postfix[19:07:55] <gavit> so, now that this works, shall we start migrating :)[19:12:27] *** neonoe has left #postfix[19:12:57] *** schnatta has joined #postfix[19:35:29] *** nzero has joined #postfix[19:45:05] *** oles has quit IRC[19:50:11] *** on1ald has quit IRC[19:53:22] *** on1ald has joined #postfix[19:57:46] *** Suppa_Spic_ has joined #postfix[20:00:55] *** Suppa_Spic has quit IRC[20:01:15] *** nzero has quit IRC[20:22:10] *** jkfod has quit IRC[20:27:20] *** TheAvatar has quit IRC[20:28:53] *** TheAvatar has joined #postfix[20:34:14] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[20:43:12] <gavit> hmm in courier I used to have folders, I dont see these inp ostfix :'([20:47:02] <rob0> !imap[20:47:02] <knoba> rob0: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[20:53:37] *** Areckx has quit IRC[20:55:22] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[20:57:51] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[20:58:28] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have a header_check pcre file among others, containing a REJECT line depending on the subject "offizielle sieger". But some email with such subject was accepted just fine. Rule and email headers are here: http://pastebin.com/d24M1rNL[21:07:30] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[21:09:30] <rob0> Looks like it should have matched. Are you sure there's not some character set translation taking place before you see those headers?[21:14:14] <rob0> Also, that appears to be actually from gmail. Of course they're not going to do anything about an abuse complaint, but you could safely block the sender address, check_sender_access[21:18:56] *** arnoldB has joined #postfix[21:21:25] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[21:24:16] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[21:27:59] *** uqlev has quit IRC[21:31:23] <arnoldB> hi. SMTP host A delivers a mail from user@SMTPa to SMTP host B, receiver user@SMTPb. user@SMTPb's emails will be redirected to user@SMTPa automatically. SMTPa rejects it (bounce 450 Authentication required to send email as user@SMTPa (in reply to MAIL FROM command)). log: http://www.np.arbe.me/index.php?1443[21:31:28] <arnoldB> problem: SMTPb redirects email from user@SMTPa to user@SMTPa and sets user@SMTPa as <FROM> adress within the header. SMTPa doesn't like this. Why and how to solve it?[21:32:46] *** a90342 has quit IRC[21:32:59] *** Eagleman7 has joined #postfix[21:33:40] <arnoldB> isn't a better solution that SMTPb sets the former receiver address in <FROM> and puts the user@SMTPa (former sender) anywhere else in the header?[21:34:16] <arnoldB> I'm not sure who is responsible for this problem[21:34:44] *** Eagleman has quit IRC[21:45:00] *** a90342 has joined #postfix[21:47:24] <tharkun> arnoldB: you are discribing an intentional mail loop out whom postfix is simply bailing out. That is not a problem You should burn in green timber usera@smtpa for creating it.[21:50:59] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[21:53:51] *** elex1111110 has joined #postfix[21:54:07] <arnoldB> tharkun: thanks, I order a removal of the redirect..[21:54:18] <arnoldB> or another fitting solution.[21:55:06] <tharkun> green timber would be fine but the removal of the redirect should suffice[21:55:53] <tharkun> Actually the redirect is a non isue since it would only affect the target user at smtpb but removing the redirect won't hurt[21:59:05] <gavit> bah made typo in mydomain[21:59:54] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:04:09] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[22:15:20] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:16:25] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[22:30:30] *** echelog has joined #postfix[22:33:54] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[22:38:36] *** tonyyarusso has joined #postfix[22:52:23] *** amir_ has quit IRC[22:54:46] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[22:57:55] *** amir_ has joined #postfix[22:58:05] *** amir_ has joined #postfix[23:05:37] *** devxdev has joined #postfix[23:09:07] *** wdp has quit IRC[23:13:22] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[23:19:22] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[23:26:52] *** wh1zz0 has joined #postfix[23:40:13] *** Eagleman7 has quit IRC[23:40:30] *** Eagleman has joined #postfix[23:41:32] <gavit> Dominian, am I correct to understand that if I want to mail from OUTSIDE of my domain I need to config postfix rather than dovecot to "enable it"?[23:41:46] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[23:42:07] *** devxdev has quit IRC[23:45:15] <tharkun> gavit: Brathe, you are one with e-mail and postfix. What you just said doesn't make sense at all. If you want to send an e-mail from OUTSIDE YOUR NETWORK through your SMTP server you definetly need to tweak postfix config to do it.[23:45:33] <tharkun> !tell gavit basic[23:45:33] <knoba> gavit: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[23:45:40] <tharkun> !tell gavit submission[23:45:40] <knoba> gavit: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf[23:45:47] <tharkun> !tell gavit sasl[23:45:47] <knoba> gavit: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[23:46:10] <tharkun> !botsnack[23:46:10] <knoba> tharkun: "botsnack" : Mmmm, tasty