June 26, 2012 
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See also !jamm[01:35:09] <tharkun> !jamm[01:35:09] <knoba> tharkun: "jamm" : A project dealing with LDAP and Postfix can be found at: http://jamm.sourceforge.net/howto/html/[01:36:38] *** SelfishMan has quit IRC[01:37:02] *** The_Ball has quit IRC[01:37:11] *** The_Ball has joined #postfix[01:37:38] *** SelfishMan has joined #postfix[01:38:58] *** tmberg has quit IRC[01:40:40] *** elex111119 has joined #postfix[01:41:34] *** elex1111110 has joined #postfix[01:41:38] *** andres has quit IRC[01:41:38] *** gongoputch has quit IRC[01:42:46] *** andres has joined #postfix[01:43:20] *** Sil4nc4_ has quit IRC[01:44:18] *** Sil4nc4 has joined #postfix[01:45:07] *** elex111119 has quit IRC[01:53:33] *** p3rror has quit IRC[01:53:54] *** Hans67521 has quit IRC[02:07:07] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[02:07:34] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[02:12:43] *** elex1111110 has quit IRC[02:15:41] *** danblack has joined #postfix[02:20:50] *** p3rror has quit IRC[02:21:25] *** Sil4nc4 has quit IRC[02:26:55] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[02:27:42] *** gongoputch has joined #postfix[02:33:16] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[02:35:21] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[02:35:33] *** tr-808 has joined #postfix[02:41:23] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[03:01:51] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[03:03:53] *** znull has quit IRC[03:10:25] *** nuomi has quit IRC[03:24:25] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[03:26:02] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[03:27:14] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[04:00:53] *** danblack has quit IRC[04:02:20] *** nuomi has quit IRC[04:08:31] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[04:20:41] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[04:23:54] *** nuomi has quit IRC[04:25:07] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[04:45:38] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[05:06:24] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[05:08:19] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[05:09:26] *** danblack has joined #postfix[05:14:11] *** danblack has quit IRC[05:20:51] *** nuomi has quit IRC[05:25:07] *** codebeard has joined #postfix[05:25:37] *** MaximusColourum has quit IRC[05:33:42] <codebeard> hey guys, I've been looking at authorized_submit_users as well as smtpd_sender_restrictions, and I can't work out how to do this: restrict each local user who doesn't use SASL to only be able to send with a 'From' header matching some user-specific pattern[05:34:26] <codebeard> for example, I want the local user joe to be able to send mail from joe at example dot org and joseph at example dot org, but no other from envelopes[05:52:22] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[05:59:29] <rob0> Wait, you start off saying header, then you say envelope. Which is it? If the former, you are out of luck. The latter feature is implemented:[05:59:57] <rob0> !smtpd_sender_login_maps[05:59:58] <knoba> rob0: "smtpd_sender_login_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.[06:01:29] <rob0> To enforce it, you'd use reject_authenticated_sender_mismatch before permit_sasl_authenticated in your smtpd_recipient_restrictions.[06:05:04] *** MAAAAAD has joined #postfix[06:12:43] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:13:57] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:16:53] *** nihe has quit IRC[06:17:28] <codebeard> rob0: sorry, I may be using the wrong wording for from header / envelope. I mean what I said in the example. local user joe can send as joe at example dot org but not mary at example dot org[06:19:33] <codebeard> rob0: I would use smtpd_sender_login_maps, but I thought it required SASL authentication? I don't want users to have to configure a mail client with a username/password[06:21:40] <rob0> Oh, I skipped that part in your question. No, there's no way to connect non-SASL submissions with any particular user account. For sendmail(1) submission you know who it is, but there is no way to make the headers match that user.[06:25:28] <codebeard> rob0: I noticed that if users change their from address with sendmail -f, it adds a header about "Received... from userid 621" -- I thought that perhaps I could reject it with header_checks[06:27:14] *** nihe has joined #postfix[06:27:54] <rob0> !filter[06:27:54] <knoba> rob0: "filter" : see !filter_readme[06:27:59] <rob0> !filter_readme[06:27:59] <knoba> rob0: "filter_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html :: After-queue content filtering[06:28:09] <rob0> um, that is the wrong one[06:28:23] <rob0> see the one about built-in filtering[06:28:41] <codebeard> !header_checks[06:28:41] <knoba> codebeard: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.[06:28:51] <rob0> see especially the part about "limitations"[06:29:17] <rob0> no, there is a README for this, I am not talking about the man page[06:30:21] <rob0> BUILTIN_FILTER_README.html#limitations[06:30:59] <codebeard> thanks[06:54:09] *** Areckx has joined #postfix[07:12:19] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[07:12:49] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[07:21:15] *** nutron has quit IRC[07:31:45] *** nuomi has quit IRC[07:46:36] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[08:11:50] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:17:31] *** nuomi has quit IRC[08:21:25] <Chiku|dc> user+extension@domain I don't understand[08:21:32] <Chiku|dc> can you give me an example ?[08:24:30] *** breaker313 has joined #postfix[08:25:24] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[08:27:03] *** andi has left #postfix[08:27:47] *** octe has joined #postfix[08:32:33] <octe> I'm trying to configure my postfix correctly, i want notifications when outgoing mail is bounced so i added "bounce" to notify_classes[08:32:58] <octe> unforttunately now i also get bounce notifications for incoming mail, i.e. spam being sent to non-existing local users[08:39:04] <octe> i guess what i want is bounce notifications only for relayed mail[08:42:11] *** Telgalizer has joined #postfix[08:47:51] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[08:54:36] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[09:15:53] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[09:17:03] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[09:17:50] *** zokum has joined #postfix[09:19:31] *** z0kum has quit IRC[09:19:31] *** e-ndy has quit IRC[09:19:31] *** jense has quit IRC[09:19:32] *** benteaa has quit IRC[09:19:40] *** benteaa has joined #postfix[09:19:48] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:20:19] *** e-ndy- has joined #postfix[09:31:50] *** pyco_ has joined #postfix[09:31:51] *** nomicon_ has joined #postfix[09:31:52] *** __NiC has joined #postfix[09:31:56] *** SockPant1 has joined #postfix[09:32:00] *** frank-- has joined #postfix[09:32:58] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:35:07] *** Almtesh2 has joined #postfix[09:36:13] *** Aurica has joined #postfix[09:36:41] *** Astroman has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** Silowyi has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** thumbs has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** Almtesh has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** SockPants has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** pyco has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** _NiC has quit IRC[09:36:41] *** nomicon has quit IRC[09:37:10] *** nuomi has quit IRC[09:39:30] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[09:42:02] *** e-ndy- is now known as e-ndy[09:50:15] *** cyrilz_ has joined #postfix[09:50:15] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[09:50:36] *** cyrilz_ has quit IRC[10:05:09] *** Astroman has joined #postfix[10:05:43] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[10:06:01] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[10:07:13] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[10:09:57] *** Toerkeium has joined #postfix[10:18:51] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[10:23:48] *** lunaphyte__ has joined #postfix[10:23:49] *** lunaphyte__ has joined #postfix[10:26:45] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[10:26:45] *** lunaphyte__ is now known as lunaphyte_[10:34:41] *** rzimmermann has joined #postfix[10:34:54] *** happymeerkat has joined #postfix[10:45:22] *** Areckx has quit IRC[10:52:28] *** Aurica has quit IRC[10:59:20] *** happymeerkat has quit IRC[10:59:44] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[11:03:28] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[11:06:30] *** huwenfeng has joined #postfix[11:07:38] <huwenfeng> hi, I can set multiple MX for my domain. But I wonder, How to keep the mail in sync between this two mail server? I am using postfix. Anyone can direct me to the right place?[11:08:14] <sep> huwenfeng, use a shared storage[11:08:40] <sep> huwenfeng, eg like nfs, or a san or a distributed filesystem[11:08:42] <huwenfeng> sep: Is this the only solution???? That would be sad.[11:09:24] <huwenfeng> OK, I will try to setup a distributed filesystem.....[11:09:33] <sysmonk> huwenfeng: that's not about postfix[11:09:51] <sysmonk> postfix only delivers mail, you should look into lda replication/syncing[11:10:06] <sysmonk> if you use cyrus it has cyrus replication, dovecot has dsync,[11:10:06] <sep> drbd might be something to investigate, if you are looking at a failover type of configuration[11:10:08] <huwenfeng> sysmonk: I mean, postfix does NOT implement any sync method? right?[11:10:12] <UQlev> huwenfeng: why would you need multiple MX?[11:10:14] <sysmonk> dbmail has ... well.. deepnds on the backend[11:10:41] <sysmonk> huwenfeng: correct, and it doesn't have to, it doesn't touch the emails - it only delivers them to <somewhere>[11:10:44] <sep> huwenfeng, correct. it's not in the smtp scope realy[11:10:51] <sysmonk> it's up to <somewhere> what to do with them, how to sync them and etc[11:11:05] *** ayaka has joined #postfix[11:11:16] <huwenfeng> sysmonk: Oh, maybe I should take a look at Cyrus.[11:11:53] <sep> huwenfeng, or better... dovecot[11:11:55] <sep> :)[11:12:20] <huwenfeng> UQlev: oh, I just want load balance or fail over.[11:12:28] <sep> altho dsync is not a real replacement for a real shared storage[11:13:04] <sysmonk> well, shared storage sometimes suck[11:13:15] <sysmonk> i don't even offer that to anyone :)[11:13:24] <sep> every solutions have their backside :)[11:14:11] <UQlev> huwenfeng: how many messages a day your server receive/send?[11:14:45] <zw> Hi there. If you use check_policy_service inet:ip:port[11:15:06] <zw> can the ip also be a hostname ? (With a round-robin behind?)[11:15:07] <huwenfeng> UQlev: over 10+ expected..[11:15:40] <UQlev> huwenfeng: 10+ or 10K+[11:15:49] <sysmonk> 10+ what?[11:15:52] <huwenfeng> 10K+, sorry..[11:15:53] <sysmonk> thousand? milions?[11:15:59] <sysmonk> oh, not much[11:16:27] <sysmonk> my mailbox gets more :P[11:16:53] <sysmonk> k $work[11:18:17] <UQlev> huwenfeng: with such amount of mail traffic you barely need any redundant MX[11:19:23] <huwenfeng> UQlev: yes, maybe not, but since I started learning about postfix(or mail), I think i'd better have an understand of how this problems can be solved.[11:20:36] <huwenfeng> So, postfix only delivers email. If I need to let the people read those emails received, i have to setup POP3/IMAP server... Really overwhelmming...[11:21:22] <huwenfeng> by the way, my users are fetched from LDAP server. pretty great.[11:27:50] <ayaka> does postfix support SSL pass phrase[11:28:52] <UQlev> ayaka: you mean to load certificate?[11:29:06] <ayaka> UQlev, yes[11:30:10] <sysmonk> ayaka: sadly but not[11:30:33] <sysmonk> ayaka: only supports certs without a passphrase[11:30:47] <ayaka> sysmonk, it doesn't matter as I don't why I need it[11:30:59] <sysmonk> then wtf do you ask :)[11:32:27] <ayaka> sysmonk, because somebody tell me it will make more security[11:32:33] <ayaka> but I don't know why[11:34:12] <UQlev> ayaka: you can do it manually every reboot. If you feed passphrase from script it will be not more secure[11:35:08] <ayaka> UQlev, then he is lie, I feed pass phrase in a script for apache2[11:36:07] <sysmonk> UQlev: postfix does not support that afaik[11:36:54] <sysmonk> anyway, afk[11:37:55] *** nuomi has quit IRC[11:40:21] <zw> huwenfeng: there are plenty of dovecot/postfix/ldap cookbooks on the internet, no ?[11:40:38] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[11:42:43] <UQlev> zw: huwenfeng is deeply depressed yet by the fact that postfix is MTA only and nothing else[11:43:44] <zw> ah[11:46:49] <ayaka> sysmonk, UQlev thank you[11:46:53] *** ayaka has left #postfix[11:51:52] *** nuomi has quit IRC[11:55:33] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[11:56:02] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:02:42] <zw> Any postfwd users awake ? :)[12:11:11] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[12:21:00] *** huwenfeng has quit IRC[12:24:31] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[12:27:20] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[12:39:45] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[12:44:18] *** kryl has joined #postfix[12:44:54] <kryl> hi, I want to bcc to a specific email all domain except one email address how can I do it ?[12:45:33] <kryl> I have in recipient_bcc : @domain.com example at test dot com[12:45:47] <kryl> and it transfer all emails from the domain to example at test dot com[12:46:28] <kryl> if I want to exclude user1 at domain dot com from the bcc rules can you help me to understand please ?[12:50:27] *** cnkrs has joined #postfix[12:50:51] *** cnkrs has left #postfix[12:55:52] *** iamamoron has joined #postfix[12:55:56] <iamamoron> hi there[12:56:11] <iamamoron> would it be possible it post fix to delivery mail not locally?[12:57:36] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[12:57:50] *** sejo has quit IRC[12:57:52] *** cnkrs has joined #postfix[12:59:08] *** cnkrs has left #postfix[13:06:35] <Zerberus> iamamoron: please, do not continue your mess here[13:06:56] *** Bry8Star{EB has quit IRC[13:07:29] <JPT> why that nickname?... Oo[13:08:29] *** frank-- has quit IRC[13:08:29] *** frank-- has joined #postfix[13:08:34] *** frank-- is now known as thumbs[13:09:10] <iamamoron> hahaha Zerberus[13:09:32] <Zerberus> iamamoron: that was not a joke[13:10:13] *** Sil4nc4 has joined #postfix[13:10:24] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[13:10:57] *** Bry8Star{EB has joined #postfix[13:12:12] <iamamoron> ok Zerberus any ideas how to separate a mail server?[13:13:14] <Zerberus> iamamoron: that is not a term anyone can understand[13:13:35] <Zerberus> !tell iamamoron welcome[13:13:35] <knoba> iamamoron: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[13:16:13] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:18:22] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:19:32] <iamamoron> Zerberus: \/[13:19:36] <iamamoron> Zerberus: ?[13:27:23] <thumbs> !tell iamamoron welcome[13:27:23] <knoba> iamamoron: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[13:28:24] <iamamoron> Zerberus : is a waste of time[13:28:35] <iamamoron> lame helper[13:29:15] <thumbs> iamamoron: in that sense, you're a lame user, too :)[13:29:33] <iamamoron> i came for help[13:29:42] <iamamoron> he ask the problem[13:29:45] <iamamoron> keep on asking[13:29:50] <iamamoron> but wasted my 5 hours[13:29:58] <iamamoron> realizing the he doesnt know anything[13:30:17] <thumbs> iamamoron: attacking helpers here won't help your case.[13:30:33] <thumbs> iamamoron: the problem is that you're asking the wrong questions, as a matter of fact.[13:30:34] <iamamoron> he doesnt qualify eaither[13:32:30] <iamamoron> if you just saw my chat logs thumbs with Zerberus you will understand why i am so pissed off[13:33:04] *** sejo has joined #postfix[13:35:21] <thumbs> iamamoron: take it elsewhere, please.[13:39:24] <iamamoron> sorry[13:46:41] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:04:52] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[14:06:12] *** wh1zz0 has quit IRC[14:07:58] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:09:33] *** voidy has quit IRC[14:15:29] *** iamamoron has quit IRC[14:42:01] *** mroe has joined #postfix[14:42:01] *** mroe has joined #postfix[14:50:16] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[14:58:04] *** shal3r has quit IRC[14:58:23] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:01:44] *** shal3r has joined #postfix[15:01:58] *** abramart has quit IRC[15:02:21] *** cilly has quit IRC[15:02:37] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[15:03:29] *** shal3r has quit IRC[15:04:12] *** shal3r has joined #postfix[15:07:37] *** abramart has joined #postfix[15:09:09] *** abramart has quit IRC[15:13:29] *** abramart has joined #postfix[15:14:36] *** mroe has quit IRC[15:20:52] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[15:21:34] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[15:32:25] *** p3rror has quit IRC[15:47:19] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[15:50:46] *** cilly has joined #postfix[15:57:08] *** kryl has quit IRC[16:02:47] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[16:03:17] *** viddy has quit IRC[16:03:31] *** breaker313 has quit IRC[16:04:19] *** viddy has joined #postfix[16:07:08] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[16:29:05] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[16:36:38] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[16:41:11] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[16:43:00] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[16:50:28] *** wdp has joined #postfix[16:50:29] *** wdp has joined #postfix[16:52:20] *** shoonya has quit IRC[16:53:57] *** mroe has joined #postfix[16:53:57] *** mroe has joined #postfix[16:57:11] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[17:00:54] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[17:06:48] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:15:21] *** hjbehling has joined #postfix[17:20:38] *** mroe has quit IRC[17:21:40] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[17:22:14] *** rotbeard has joined #postfix[17:22:45] *** rotbeard has quit IRC[17:24:09] <pickcoder> any ideas as to why dict_pcre_open and dict_tcp_open are not defined via libutil.a?[17:24:37] <tharkun> pickcoder: where did you get your sources from?[17:24:41] <pickcoder> A recent update took out NIS (again) and we are dead at the moment[17:24:50] <pickcoder> debian backports.. 2.9.1[17:24:56] <thumbs> debian--[17:24:58] <pickcoder> the orig tarball builds fine but I need the updates[17:25:14] <pickcoder> thumbs: yeah I agree on this one[17:25:29] <thumbs> pickcoder: it's not the first time they make a terrible mistake like this.[17:25:41] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:25:52] <pickcoder> thumbs: I need help with postfix so lets keep the flaming down[17:26:00] <thumbs> sorry.[17:26:00] *** mroe has joined #postfix[17:26:28] <pickcoder> I doubt #debian is going to be helpful and after reviewing the headers I dunno why it would not be defined[17:26:31] <tharkun> pickcoder: you can pester lamont on #d-devel he is the maintainer. Maybe he is around and will lend you a quick hand[17:26:53] *** Silowyi has joined #postfix[17:27:14] <tharkun> I would set up the two building trees and make a diff on both to see what changed[17:27:57] <pickcoder> that is not a fun task considering all of the modifications made to sources and config data[17:28:09] <pickcoder> I guess I don't have a choice if lamont isn't around[17:28:23] <pickcoder> d-devel is on otc?[17:28:29] <tharkun> oftc yes[17:28:43] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[17:33:53] *** trentg has joined #postfix[17:46:04] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[17:46:21] <pickcoder> FYI the Makefile.in under src/util/ is missing dict_pcre.o and dict_tcp.o in the OBJ ref[17:46:38] <pickcoder> that's for 2.9.1 in debian bpo[17:46:47] <pickcoder> I told lamont, but I don't think he's aruond[17:46:50] <pickcoder> ~around[17:47:18] <tharkun> pickcoder: ok, I normally don't use bpo but i will take a look at it this evening[17:47:38] <pickcoder> hrm.. now the config defs are missing[17:47:51] <pickcoder> bin/postconf: symbol lookup error: bin/postconf: undefined symbol: warn_fstat[17:48:42] <tharkun> pickcoder: too many errors for a normal day at the office. Why don't you download upstream and aply patches to fit[18:01:26] <pickcoder> I might as well just set up another server[18:01:32] <pickcoder> this is insane[18:02:09] <tharkun> pickcoder++[18:02:10] <thumbs> bah[18:06:39] <pickcoder> hopefully dpkg-buildpackage will be happy enough to make me a usable deb[18:07:27] <pickcoder> pcre support blew up[18:07:34] <pickcoder> debian--[18:07:46] <pickcoder> (tho I am using a backport..)[18:08:37] <tharkun> pickcoder: take a look at the sid source. it is supposed to be cleaner that bpo[18:08:48] <tharkun> although you will find that you need to fix some dependencies[18:09:03] <pickcoder> yeah.. that's OK.. this is a critical machine and I don't wan sid-anything near it[18:09:17] <tharkun> pickcoder: sid sources for postfix are stable[18:09:26] * tharkun has used them quite often[18:09:29] <pickcoder> within themselves.. yes[18:09:38] <tharkun> ok, got the idea[18:09:39] <pickcoder> not when paired with other packages that may not play nice[18:10:21] <pickcoder> I appears to be another typo in a makefile[18:10:25] <pickcoder> trying to find the source[18:11:30] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[18:15:46] <Rich_Morin_> It appears that creating a file named /etc/postfix/mail_users caused our incoming mail to start bouncing. However, we can't find any documentation on the web about such a file name. Clues, anyone?[18:16:53] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[18:17:05] <tharkun> Rich_Morin_: postconf -n should tell you where you are calling that file[18:18:22] <Rich_Morin_> "postconf -n | grep mail_users" doesn't find anything[18:20:43] <tharkun> Rich_Morin_: then take a look at relevant logs to see the real cause of your problems[18:20:48] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[18:21:25] <pickcoder> I had to force -lpcre in AUXLIBS in order to get it to compile[18:24:18] <pickcoder> now.. I feel like I'm sitting in the office with server parts strewn all over the place and trying to figure out which pieces aren't needed now.. there are 3 versions of postfix parts around[18:29:10] * pickcoder pulls out hair[18:29:22] <pickcoder> init script won't start it now complaining it's already running[18:35:05] *** mroe has quit IRC[18:36:10] *** grefter has quit IRC[18:36:24] *** grefter has joined #postfix[18:37:58] <pickcoder> I cleaned out ./pid and it still refuses to start. Any other lockfile locations?[18:49:16] <pickcoder> well.. looks like I'll be forefully re-installing 2.7 from the repos[18:49:26] <pickcoder> the permissions are fubar fom 2.9[18:49:39] <pickcoder> I dunno wth happened[18:50:21] <rob0> is a non-.deb install an option? You can always uninstall it after the Debian bugs are fixed.[18:50:31] <pickcoder> I tried that already[18:50:33] <pickcoder> no luck[18:50:39] <pickcoder> too many bugs in the makefiles[18:50:45] <pickcoder> for 2.9[18:50:49] <rob0> uh, it always builds for me[18:51:02] <pickcoder> from the main source, I have no problems[18:55:33] <pickcoder> done.. back on 2.7.1 and it's working[18:55:36] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[18:55:58] <pickcoder> guess I'll eventually get postscreen and not have distro update issues..[18:56:03] *** hjbehling has quit IRC[18:56:35] *** jonez has quit IRC[19:00:46] *** matt1982 has joined #postfix[19:02:25] <rob0> What I suggested was to build the upstream source NOW and uninstall it when the Debian bugs are fixed LATER. It is not hard to uninstall.[19:04:20] *** FainaUkraina has joined #postfix[19:04:44] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[19:09:15] *** jonez has joined #postfix[19:14:14] *** mroe has joined #postfix[19:14:14] *** mroe has joined #postfix[19:16:42] *** mroe has quit IRC[19:18:19] *** Cerise has quit IRC[19:18:29] *** FainaUkraina has quit IRC[19:20:12] *** Cerise has joined #postfix[19:24:16] *** KaiForce has joined #postfix[19:27:02] *** MaximusColourum has joined #postfix[19:29:51] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[19:32:38] *** falu has joined #postfix[20:01:17] <tharkun> How do I what kind of authentication is a server using for sasl? If it dovecot or some weird choice by the previous administrator?[20:05:33] <tharkun> !smtpd_sasl_type[20:05:33] <knoba> tharkun: Error: "smtpd_sasl_type" is not a valid command.[20:05:48] <tharkun> !smtpd_sasl_type[20:05:48] <knoba> tharkun: Error: "smtpd_sasl_type" is not a valid command.[20:06:01] <tharkun> !botsnack[20:06:02] <knoba> tharkun: "botsnack" : Mmmm, tasty[20:08:17] *** corretico has joined #postfix[20:08:21] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[20:09:17] <falu> I fail to setup four relay hosts. All mails seem to be sent through the default relay host and outgoing emails have an SPF issue. 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