June 24, 2012 
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June 24, 2012 [00:00:59] *** davlefou_ has joined #postfix[00:02:28] <rob0> See the REPLACE action in header_checks(5), but indeed, it seems strange/silly.[00:04:20] *** davlefou has quit IRC[00:09:34] *** davlefou_ has quit IRC[00:14:10] *** twobithacker has joined #postfix[00:14:59] *** twobithacker has left #postfix[00:37:28] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[00:47:14] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[01:05:40] *** andrisi has quit IRC[01:08:28] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[01:09:03] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[01:09:51] *** tr-808 has joined #postfix[01:12:22] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[01:12:23] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[01:15:01] *** jkfod has quit IRC[01:22:26] *** uqlev has quit IRC[01:47:40] *** heller_barde has quit IRC[02:33:06] <jimpop> i've seen that done before, mostly at financial institutions where contractors were vlan'ed and had to use a contractor specific relay host that added "not an actual employee..." footers, custom headers, and re-wrote From: as $name-CONTRACTOR/$dept[02:34:37] <jimpop> so proactive contractors, would end up with an email addr of $name-CONTRACTOR/$dept-CONTRACTOR/$dept ;-)[02:42:34] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[02:44:31] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[02:48:38] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[02:57:28] *** Astroman has joined #postfix[03:21:10] *** Belial has quit IRC[03:35:31] *** StevenR has quit IRC[03:35:52] *** StevenR has joined #postfix[03:42:10] *** Verilium has quit IRC[03:50:07] *** Verilium has joined #postfix[04:10:18] *** elex1111117 has quit IRC[04:21:56] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[04:31:21] *** n0sq has quit IRC[04:34:36] *** tris has joined #postfix[05:04:33] *** aarcane has joined #postfix[05:04:57] <aarcane> Is there a simple way to send all messages destined for a single address to lpd in some sane form for manual perusing ?[05:07:44] <rob0> wasn't this answered a couple days ago? (That was you with the fax-printing thing, right?[05:08:12] <rob0> Use a local (system) user with a .forward file which invokes your command.[05:09:02] <rob0> Use a virtual(5) alias if the address is not a $mydestination local(8) address.[05:09:25] <rob0> and see also aliases(5) for the format of the .forward file.[05:44:19] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:47:11] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[06:11:24] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:13:14] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:38:06] *** Laibsch has joined #postfix[06:45:50] *** Laibsch has quit IRC[06:46:03] <aarcane> Nice, thanks rob0 :) The idea just popped into my mind, and I googled it, but found nothing.[06:49:19] <aarcane> rob0, you must have been doing this a long time to even know by rote which man section the various man pages are in.[07:24:38] <pj> rob0 has been doing it a long time, but it doesn't take a lot to remember where a few man pages are located.[07:24:46] <Kellin> aarcane: rob0 has a data storage system in his beard ;)[07:24:51] <pj> lol[07:46:53] *** tapout has joined #postfix[07:47:23] <tapout> is there a way to record the message body/content of rejected messages when bounced from spamhaus and the rest? there are a few i wonder if htey were legit, but i can't see the message body[08:07:37] *** elex1111117 has joined #postfix[08:11:24] *** kyconquers has quit IRC[08:20:50] *** Silowyi has quit IRC[08:29:19] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:40:18] *** Verilium has quit IRC[08:41:48] <lunaphyte> rejected != bounced[08:45:45] <lunaphyte> also not sure you what you man by "bounced from spamhaus"[08:45:48] <lunaphyte> *mean by[08:45:57] *** Verilium has joined #postfix[08:46:39] <lunaphyte> generally speaking, the vast majority of messages you reject should be rejected before the data stage. this means before there is any message headers or message body.[08:48:07] <lunaphyte> if you did actually mean bounced, then that is a whole other problem that you need to solve. you absolutely should not be accepting messages that you do not plan on delivering.[09:15:04] *** Suppa_Spic_ has joined #postfix[09:17:01] *** Suppa_Spic_ has left #postfix[09:17:18] *** Suppa_Spic has joined #postfix[09:17:29] <Suppa_Spic> does anyone know a tutorial for Postfix with virtual mailboxes (maildir style) for Debian?[09:17:36] <Suppa_Spic> I tried this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto[09:17:41] <Suppa_Spic> but some stuff doesn't work :/[09:17:47] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[09:19:37] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:23:31] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[09:25:43] <adaptr> !tutorial[09:25:44] <knoba> adaptr: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[09:26:49] <Suppa_Spic> welp[09:49:07] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:49:08] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:54:00] <pj> !tell Suppa_Spic virtual[09:54:00] <knoba> Suppa_Spic: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[09:55:37] <pj> Suppa_Spic: your better off simply asking for help where you've encoutered a problem that you can't solve rather than starting over again from a different tutorial.[09:56:39] <Suppa_Spic> I already created a user, with password, when I try mutt -f pop://mail.mydomain.com I get a invalid password login[09:57:06] <pj> Suppa_Spic: postfix doesn't do pop[09:59:43] <Suppa_Spic> hmm[10:01:14] <pj> !tell Suppa_Spic pop[10:01:14] <knoba> Suppa_Spic: "pop" : postfix is not a pop or imap server[10:01:20] <pj> !tell Suppa_Spic pop3[10:01:20] <knoba> Suppa_Spic: "pop3" : POP3 is an application layer Internet protocol, superceded by IMAP (see !imap), that allows a client (MUA) to access email on a remote server. Postfix does not provide POP3 (or IMAP) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[10:01:45] <pj> anyways, I have to go, bbl.[10:11:58] *** andi has quit IRC[10:12:44] *** fr00d has joined #postfix[10:38:38] <rob0> Kellin, that's not data, that's food![10:40:27] *** shoonya has quit IRC[10:46:29] *** bvenkat_ has quit IRC[10:47:01] *** bvenkat has joined #postfix[10:48:13] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[10:52:31] *** bvenkat_ has joined #postfix[10:56:31] *** bvenkat has quit IRC[11:21:44] *** phenom has quit IRC[11:23:54] *** phenom has joined #postfix[11:30:25] <Suppa_Spic> nvm, got it working perfectly :)[11:33:12] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[11:36:53] *** wdp has quit IRC[12:02:36] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:02:45] *** davlefou has joined #postfix[12:03:58] *** gencha has quit IRC[12:06:50] *** gencha has joined #postfix[12:18:42] <cite> When transferring a queue from one mailserver to another, is simply tar'ing it t the new server and then running "postsuper -s" until queue file names stop changing still the way to go?[12:21:45] <rob0> Another choice is to set the new as relayhost (or "*" in transport_maps) for the old; postsuper -r ALL; postfix flush.[12:23:00] <cite> The old one is pretty dead, unfortunately.[12:23:47] <cite> Both system disks failed within 4 hours.[12:24:15] <cite> I don't want anyone to drive to the data center, replace them, reinstall the server and so on, the weather is just too great for that[12:24:53] * rob0 observes a moment of silence in honor of the departed[12:24:59] <cite> So I simply booted a resuce system with PXE and salvaged the queue, because the two disks the queue was on are still OK.[12:25:47] <cite> We usually send about 20k mails on a normal weekend, the other server will be finde doing that on it's own.[12:26:24] <cite> rob0: Do you ever sleep? :)[12:26:41] <rob0> sigh[12:27:05] <rob0> I am usually asleep now, but I got woke up in the middle of the night.[12:27:33] <cite> Earthquake? Pager? Aliens landing in your neighbourhood?[12:37:19] *** kaos01_ has quit IRC[12:46:19] *** leofishman has joined #postfix[12:52:56] <leofishman> Hi, I am very very new to postfix, have a vps server with some virtual domains, one of them is very important and I am affraid that some other domain, send spam and blacklist my server[12:53:22] <leofishman> can anyone help me set the postfix to send mails from the ip of each virtual domain?[12:53:57] <leofishman> I use postfix 2.84[12:54:16] <leofishman> and I am affraid to touch something and break it[12:54:25] <leofishman> thanks in advance[12:54:45] <leofishman> its a centos server[12:55:57] <leofishman> CentOS release 5.8 (Final)[13:00:25] *** fr00d is now known as andi[13:02:06] <cite> leofishman: Erm, yes, that's possible.[13:04:13] <cite> leofishman: You can define new smtp transports in master.cf, telling them to bind to a specific address with -o smtp_bind_address=a.b.c.d, and then you can employ a FILTER action with a check_Sender_access map to route mails to that transport.[13:04:31] <cite> leofishman: Or something like that. Let me take a look at the release notes, that's a pretty new feature...[13:04:39] <leofishman> great![13:04:41] <leofishman> thanks[13:05:08] <leofishman> i wanted to follow the instructions here[13:05:09] <leofishman> http://www.kutukupret.com/2010/01/02/postfix-bind-sender-domain-to-dedicated-outgoing-ip-address/[13:05:26] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[13:05:47] <leofishman> but since is from an older version and I dont understand 100% postfix, I am affraid to break something[13:07:37] <cite> leofishman: http://paste.debian.net/176074/[13:08:53] <cite> leofishman: For testing purposes, you can set soft_bounce and add the new transports to defer_transports.[13:09:06] <cite> leofishman: This way, nothing will be bounced immediately and no mails will go out.[13:09:22] <leofishman> ok[13:09:27] <leofishman> I'll try it now[13:10:07] <cite> leofishman: Hey, wait a second.[13:10:17] <cite> leofishman: You _must_ have Postfix > 2.7 to make this work.[13:10:23] <leofishman> yes[13:10:24] <leofishman> I have[13:10:40] <cite> leofishman: If you don't, an empty nexthop entry will not to what you expect.[13:10:42] <cite> Ok.[13:10:48] <leofishman> postfix 2.84[13:11:39] <cite> 2.8.4, I assume. You should be fine :)[13:12:21] <leofishman> I'll try it and let you know[13:15:34] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:18:09] *** StevenR has quit IRC[13:25:51] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[13:46:01] <leofishman> cite: I have a plesk paralel admin[13:46:16] <leofishman> postfix is configured from there[13:46:32] <leofishman> it is safe to change the main.cf?[13:52:31] <cite> I really don't know.[13:53:40] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[14:02:13] <leofishman> it looks like is configured already[14:02:22] <leofishman> but it works only with some domains[14:04:06] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:10:45] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[14:40:01] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[14:43:01] *** wdp has joined #postfix[14:43:02] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:48:36] *** leofishman has quit IRC[16:53:43] *** Jakey has joined #postfix[17:03:39] *** wh1zz0 has joined #postfix[17:09:43] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[17:16:00] <wh1zz0> sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. (I even contacted my dedicated server privider about this but they haven't said anything meaningful).... I have searched google for related stuff but nothing so far seems to work. I have checked mxtools and spamhaus to see if my newly gotten ip happens to be blacklisted BUT no, it's totally clean... What's really going on? Please help would be appreciated, I'd ove[17:16:00] <wh1zz0> to sort this out and gain more experience.. Anyone?[17:16:17] <wh1zz0> **[17:16:19] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. I recently got a new/fresh dedicated server and trying to configure the mail server, I have successfully been able to configure my domain's NS (and fully pointed/propagated) using Webmin's BIND and have myname at mybrandnedomain dot org. Mails sent to Yahoo and Gmail are delivered (although to junk/bulk) BUT my major issue now is that when I send a mail to aol and live I get the following error: Remote host said: 550 SC-001 Unfortunately, messages from "MY IP"[17:16:19] <wh1zz0> weren't[17:16:19] <wh1zz0> sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. (I even contacted my dedicated server privider about this but they haven't said anything meaningful).... I have searched google for related stuff but nothing so far seems to work. I have checked mxtools and spamhaus to see if my newly gotten ip happens to be blacklisted BUT no, it's totally clean... What's really going on? Please help would be appreciated, I'd ove[17:16:19] <wh1zz0> to sort this out and gain more experience.. Anyone?[17:17:58] <jimpop> perhaps you should repeat everything once more?[17:19:10] <wh1zz0> jimpop: Repeat? How do you mean?[17:21:57] <jimpop> perhaps it's just me, but I see two copies of your text above[17:22:38] <thumbs> wh1zz0: and don't cross post[17:22:48] <thumbs> jimpop: in several channels, too[17:23:25] <thumbs> wh1zz0: are you using postfix?[17:23:28] <wh1zz0> thumbs: Sorry about that, wasn't sure where to post the topic[17:23:36] <thumbs> !tell wh1zz0 welcome[17:23:37] <knoba> wh1zz0: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[17:23:42] <wh1zz0> thumbs: I am using sendmail[17:24:15] <thumbs> wh1zz0: then ask #sendmail[17:24:52] <wh1zz0> I installed postfix and got the same error only that the mail to yahoo and gmail delivered instantly (still bulk), but uninstalled it cuz postfix stopped working[17:25:07] <thumbs> wh1zz0: this is the postfix support channel.[17:25:16] <thumbs> wh1zz0: also, it's spelled 'because'.[17:27:31] <wh1zz0> Yeah sure, I know[17:27:53] <wh1zz0> Okie... thanks thumbs but any help would still be appreciated[17:28:07] <thumbs> wh1zz0: you're not using postfix.[17:28:43] <wh1zz0> I wish to uninstall stop sendmail and use postfix[17:29:27] <thumbs> wh1zz0: let us know when you do that.[17:32:56] *** mroe has joined #postfix[17:35:25] *** Jakey has quit IRC[17:39:13] *** Jakey has joined #postfix[17:41:30] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[17:42:04] <wh1zz0> thumbs: Done.. I am now using postfix[17:42:27] <wh1zz0> thumbs: Tested mail again and got the error.....[17:43:19] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[17:43:38] <Zerberus> wh1zz0: why do you think switching from Sendmail to Postfix would change anything?[17:44:44] <wh1zz0> Zerberus: To be honest/sincere, I don't, logically, after thinking about it, I felt it would still give the same error being that they are just agents but the network is still the same[17:45:46] <wh1zz0> However, having said that, I switched cuz I noticed that using postfix, the test mail to yahoo and gmail delivered immediately while using sendmail there's a 5 minute lag[17:45:51] <wh1zz0> because*[17:51:25] <wh1zz0> thumbs: Okie no there's no error.. BUT I see the test mail sent to aol in message queue while for live I neither get an error message nor does it go in the queue[17:51:35] <wh1zz0> thumbs: i.e using postfix now[17:52:30] <wh1zz0> How can I troubleshoot this? I have just checked again if the IP is blacklisted and it's clean. The domain as well is new (barely 3 days old)[17:57:03] <thumbs> !tell wh1zz0 welcome[17:57:03] <knoba> wh1zz0: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[17:57:25] <thumbs> wh1zz0: you still need to read the /topic instead of blabbering like a headless monkey :)[18:01:40] *** znull has quit IRC[18:01:41] *** znull has joined #postfix[18:04:09] <lunaphyte> !tell wh1zz0 dam[18:04:10] <knoba> wh1zz0: "dam" : don't ask me why someone else's server isn't accepting your mail. if your hotel key card wasn't letting you into your room, would you go around asking other guests why? if you can't figure out who you should ask, then see the !duh factoid[18:06:50] <wh1zz0> Hmmm[18:14:09] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[18:17:19] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[18:19:19] <mroe> !ssl[18:19:19] <knoba> mroe: "ssl" : See !tls[18:19:22] <mroe> !tls[18:19:22] <knoba> mroe: "tls" : Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). Previously known as SSL, TLS adds a layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, submission, IMAP or POP3 to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS is implemented using the STARTTLS method, while the non-standard wrapper style of implementation is deprecated at this point. See http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html for more info.[18:21:11] <mroe> hrm, how do I specify an intermediate certificate?[18:22:02] <mroe> nm, I guess I just cat them together[18:43:03] *** leofishman has joined #postfix[18:43:59] *** leofishman has joined #postfix[19:02:32] *** kaos01_ has joined #postfix[19:19:20] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[19:19:42] *** cps0 has joined #postfix[19:20:13] *** Natureshadow has joined #postfix[19:21:14] <wh1zz0> I ran ifconfig and here's the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1057821/ ... Is this supposed to show 127.0.0.1 (localhost) as my inet address?[19:25:53] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[19:44:21] *** leofishman has quit IRC[20:16:07] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[20:35:35] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[20:48:17] <jimpop> wh1zz0: your IP (37.59.242.168) is from OVH ? If so, good luck.[20:49:05] <jimpop> OVH is blocked by many mail servers.... years, *years* of problems with spam from OVH IPs.[20:53:29] <mroe> OVH?[20:55:41] <JPT> well, ovh provides cheap servers that are mostly (ab)used by young people that install minecraft servers on them...[20:57:53] <jimpop> ...and unsecured php sites[20:59:37] <JPT> oh, right. i forgot about that :D[21:10:31] *** Uninstall has joined #postfix[21:10:32] *** Uninstall has joined #postfix[21:10:41] *** Uninstall has left #postfix[21:25:59] *** ced117 has quit IRC[21:48:39] *** chaozzbubi is now known as ChaozZBubi[22:25:25] *** uqlev has quit IRC[22:31:19] *** elex1111117 has quit IRC[22:32:39] *** elex1111117 has joined #postfix[22:36:22] *** a90342 has joined #postfix[22:37:26] *** elex1111117 has quit IRC[22:41:58] *** elex1111117 has joined #postfix[22:43:52] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:44:56] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[22:49:07] *** elex1111117 has quit IRC[22:49:24] *** elex1111117 has joined #postfix[22:49:41] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:59:06] *** cps0 has quit IRC[23:03:18] *** nowthatsamatt has joined #postfix[23:03:30] *** nowthatsamatt has left #postfix[23:12:23] *** elex1111117 has quit IRC[23:14:49] *** ChaozZBubi is now known as chaozzbubi[23:18:15] *** bvenkat_ has quit IRC[23:18:51] *** bvenkat has joined #postfix[23:33:59] *** elex1111117 has joined #postfix[23:34:21] *** jkfod has quit IRC[23:35:53] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[23:37:45] *** e-anima has quit IRC[23:40:45] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[23:50:50] *** JPT has quit IRC[23:52:59] *** JPT has joined #postfix