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[08:34:29] <jazzanova> hi, I can't seem to stop my postfix from relaying mail.
[08:35:28] <jazzanova> http://pastebin.com/f1FaBw0T
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[10:29:40] <adaptr> jazzanova: you have to misconfigure postfix quite seriously to enable it to act as an open relay
[10:36:38] <koobs> that depends on the out of the box config that some 'helpful' OS's install for you
[10:42:41] <adaptr> not really
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[13:46:12] <Mystique> hey all; anyone using postscreen?
[13:46:49] <adaptr> probably
[13:46:54] <adaptr> !tell Mystique ask
[13:46:55] <knoba> Mystique: "ask" : Please regard http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc and don't ask to ask, just ask. (after you've read 'getting help')
[13:47:14] <Mystique> yea I'm getting there.. still trying to make sure this is happening this way :P
[13:47:44] <Mystique> so I have the cbl configure and barracudacentral configured both with a score of two
[13:48:14] <Mystique> it looked like from the docs that it would send them in serial; not in parallel to the dnsbl hosts..
[13:48:49] <Mystique> so when I host in on the cbl and barracuda it shows.. and then they get rejected from the last host I have listed (barracuda in this case) and not from the first..
[13:49:15] <Mystique> so it looked like if cbl got 'this first hit' they would get rejected if the score was high enough
[13:49:31] <Mystique> postscreen is set to reject on a score of 1..
[13:50:07] <Mystique> is dnsblog recording them as they return?
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[14:20:02] <adaptr> all postscreen checks are done in parallel
[14:20:13] <adaptr> and all checks must be done in order to score
[14:20:53] <adaptr> once this has been running for a few days, the cache is mostly set, so lookups become progressively less expensive
[14:21:04] <adaptr> and, of course, you should always run a local DNS cache on a mail server
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[15:15:04] <OpenSys> hello
[15:15:44] <OpenSys> can i make rules from sender_dependent_relayhost_maps goes first then rules in transport_maps ?
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[18:00:31] <jazzanova> this is my main.cf http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1666050 and this is the kind of thing I see in the log: does it mean that my server is an open relay ? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1666051
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[18:04:10] <adaptr> jazzanova: please read the /topic carefully; we don't want to see your main.cf
[18:04:22] <adaptr> with 900+ configurable parameters, this is potentially useless
[18:07:17] <Zerberus> jazzanova: the message is obvious, isn't it?
[18:07:27] <Zerberus> "Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname, [173.242.119.177]"
[18:09:02] <jazzanova> ok, here it is: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1666052
[18:09:13] <jazzanova> the problem is why it is trying to send mail for these addresses
[18:09:15] <jazzanova> they are spam
[18:09:36] <jazzanova> to=<walletk34 at buhrmann dot com>
[18:09:51] <jazzanova> to=<saskia at bringdouble dot in>
[18:10:07] <jazzanova> to=<boinboinX32 at kdcxn dot neonetx.info>
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[18:10:38] <jazzanova> it should reject these, rather than reporting an error about contact some other server.
[18:10:50] <Zerberus> switch OFF your host from the net immediately
[18:10:59] <jazzanova> it is off now
[18:11:00] <Zerberus> you are then an open relay
[18:12:14] <jazzanova> ok, but how do I fix it
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[18:13:51] <Zerberus> jazzanova: check your log where the connections come from
[18:16:32] <jazzanova> ok, think i'm onto something: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1666054
[18:17:00] <jazzanova> I see that intially the spam is coming to my address (flowers at broadwayflorists dot com), and then I think a response is attepmted to the spam address.
[18:17:04] <jazzanova> am I correct ?
[18:17:43] <jazzanova> this one: from=<heaton at borrowcat dot in>
[18:19:06] <Zerberus> yes, evil backscatterer
[18:19:21] <jazzanova> 23284 Jun 12 14:47:17 cl-69 postfix/bounce[25309]: B7287B343C4: sender non-delivery notification: C231BB34404
[18:19:30] <jazzanova> how can I disable non-delivery notifications ?
[18:19:41] <lunaphyte> wrong
[18:19:52] <lunaphyte> !tell jazzanova mantras
[18:19:52] <knoba> jazzanova: "mantras" : 1. do not accept mail that you do not intend to deliver. 2. do not drop mail. 3. do not use wildcards or catchalls.
[18:20:24] <jazzanova> well, I wan to deliver mail for flowers at broadwayflorists dot com
[18:20:37] <lunaphyte> you are accepting mail for addresses which do not exist. *that* is what you fix.
[18:21:19] <jazzanova> for what address am I accepting mail ?
[18:21:43] <lunaphyte> if you're a source of backscatter, that is why
[18:21:50] <jazzanova> 23281 Jun 12 14:47:17 cl-69 postfix/smtp[25286]: B7287B343C4: to=<broadwayflorists at gmail dot com>, orig_to=<flowers at broadwayflorists dot com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.68.26]:25, delay=1, delays=0.25/0/0.07/0.71, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.68.26] said:
[18:21:57] <jazzanova> this is mail I want to receive
[18:22:11] <jazzanova> i'm forwarding flowers at broadwayflorists dot com to broadwayflorists at gmail dot com
[18:22:23] <lunaphyte> oh, so you'll need to fix the inability to forward the email to google.
[18:22:52] <jazzanova> how could I do that ?
[18:23:08] <lunaphyte> read the log messages.
[18:24:37] <jazzanova> well, google thinks that I am sending mass mail
[18:24:49] <lunaphyte> we know.
[18:24:56] <jazzanova> but I am only delivering mail to one address in google, namely broadwayflorists at gmail dot com
[18:30:34] <jazzanova> can you recommend a cheap email forwarding service, so that I don't have to do this myself ?
[18:31:19] <lunaphyte> you could start with your registrar. most offer a number of email related services.
[18:44:41] <Corey> !why
[18:44:41] <knoba> Corey: "why" : are you sure that installing, configuring and maintaining a mailserver is really what you want to do here? it's not something that's for the faint of heart, and definitely not something for folks that are still just learning the basics of linux or unix. also see !nullclient
[18:50:15] <lunaphyte> sounds like he knows that and feels the same way, which is a good approach.
[18:51:32] <jazzanova> how can I restrict my actual email address, not just by domain ?
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[19:21:15] <lunaphyte> i don't know what that means.
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[19:33:08] <jazzanova> does anyone know what mx record do I need to set in order to use dotster email forwarding service ?
[19:33:55] <jazzanova> they say that I should host with them the DNS at ns1.nameresolve.com but I want to do my own DNs.
[19:34:05] <jazzanova> to what do I need to change the mx record ?
[19:34:22] <lunaphyte> why are you asking us?
[19:34:30] <lunaphyte> we are not dotster
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[19:34:50] <Corey> !dam
[19:34:50] <knoba> Corey: "dam" : don't ask me why someone else's server isn't accepting your mail. if your hotel key card wasn't letting you into your room, would you go around asking other guests why? if you can't figure out who you should ask, then see the !duh factoid
[19:40:49] <scientes> i am having problems with Out: 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system storage
[19:41:01] <scientes> my Maildir is a symlink to another drive
[19:41:04] <Corey> scientes: So... free up disk?
[19:41:41] <adaptr> Corey: it could not possibly be that simple. he MUSt re-install postfix, or his OS
[19:41:47] <adaptr> or buy bigger hardware, even
[19:41:57] <scientes> NOT FAST ENOUGH
[19:42:07] <scientes> for email, that is ;)
[19:42:16] <Corey> MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS/INODES.
[19:42:26] <scientes> lololol
[19:42:30] <adaptr> ONE DEATHSTAR IS NOT ENOUGH
[19:42:39] <scientes> NOT ENOUGH OVERLORDS/hard drives
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[20:54:13] <jazzanova> how can I limit number of retries when delivering bounces ?
[20:55:25] <Zerberus> jazzanova: you try to fix the wrong thing
[20:55:59] <jazzanova> I don't want to waste server resorces for delivering bounces to spammers
[20:56:44] <tuxick> you shouldn't be accepting them
[20:59:56] <jazzanova> I am accepting emails for my valid email
[21:00:23] <jazzanova> x at y dot com and I am forwarding it to x at gmail dot com
[21:00:35] <jazzanova> but I get rejection from gmail
[21:00:48] <jazzanova> and then the server is trying to send a bounce back to the spammer
[21:13:53] <tuxick> ah
[21:19:06] <jazzanova> thanks guys for your time.
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[22:45:22] <torvald> Hi, I've been getting alot of "550 Recipient address rejected: temporarily blocked because of previous errors - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries" on mostly spam but also som legit mail.
[22:46:17] <torvald> I then added the "http://policyd-weight.org/policyd-weight.conf.sample" to /etc/ and they seems to have disapperd. Can that be?
[22:47:25] <torvald> I though policyd-weight might use the default settings if the file didnt exist?
[22:50:18] <uqlev> torvald, there might be manual saying what to do with sample configs
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[22:56:03] <torvald> Yeah, I'm just wondering if the samplefiles diffrens from what policyd-weight is using as default values when the conf is not present.
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[23:03:03] <tmberg> torvald: What version?
[23:03:38] <torvald> Version: 0.1.15.1-2
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[23:07:07] <pj> torvald: this is off-topic for #postfix, I would say that you need some sort of way to compare the default conf with the one in the sample file and how exactly you do that is specific to policyd.
[23:08:01] <tmberg> torvald: I had problems with that version also. Using 0.1.15.2-2 now without any problems.
[23:08:12] <torvald> I agree. I did not find any channels for PW on IRC.
[23:08:31] <torvald> tmberg: The same problems?
[23:09:45] <tmberg> torvald: Yeah, Blocked legit mail. Steam for example.
[23:11:16] <pj> torvald: not every program has IRC support, you may have to resort to a mailing list, forum, or simply emailing the author directly.
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[23:21:12] <torvald> Okey. Thanks. :)
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