June 10, 2012 
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June 10, 2012 [00:27:18] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[00:28:50] *** jkfod has quit IRC[00:32:10] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[00:44:51] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[00:47:58] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[00:52:06] *** Rickardo_ has joined #postfix[00:53:50] *** nutron has joined #postfix[00:54:45] <heller_barde> in this [1] document it states "NEVER list a virtual MAILBOX domain name as a virtual ALIAS domain!". what is a virtual alias domain? [1]: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[01:02:03] *** p3rror has quit IRC[01:07:04] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[01:13:23] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:14:43] *** nowthatsamatt has joined #postfix[01:15:35] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[01:20:57] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[01:24:20] *** Rickardo_ has quit IRC[01:39:35] *** mroe has joined #postfix[01:41:34] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[01:45:37] *** WozlII has quit IRC[01:59:37] *** Wozl has joined #postfix[02:14:32] <pj> !tell heller_barde virtual_alias_domains[02:14:33] <knoba> heller_barde: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.[02:14:46] <pj> !tell heller_barde virtual_mailbox_domains[02:14:46] <knoba> heller_barde: "virtual_mailbox_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that are by default delivered via the $virtual_transport mail delivery transport. This list uses the same syntax as the mydestination configuration parameter.[02:15:33] <heller_barde> Oh, I see. that is way more concise and clear than what I found in the docs[02:15:52] <pj> heller_barde: virtual_mailbox_domains can have aliases, but virtual_alias_domains cannot be delivered to mailboxes, so if you have a domain that needs both list it in virtual_mailbox_domains.[02:16:02] <heller_barde> I see[02:16:06] <pj> a lot of people just use virtual_mailbox_domains and don't bother with the other one.[02:16:15] <heller_barde> yeah, that's what i will do :D[02:16:23] <pj> heller_barde: this may help...[02:16:28] <pj> !tell heller_barde postconf_5[02:16:29] <knoba> heller_barde: "postconf_5" : For documentation on all main.cf settings see the postconf(5) man page either type `man 5 postconf' into your shell or browse to http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html.[02:16:48] <heller_barde> ooh nice[02:16:54] <heller_barde> how did I not find htat[02:16:59] <pj> hehehe[02:17:02] <heller_barde> *that[02:23:00] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[02:29:05] *** p3rror has quit IRC[02:34:55] *** Wozl has quit IRC[02:35:34] *** WozlII has joined #postfix[02:43:50] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[02:45:14] *** uqlev has quit IRC[02:57:24] *** nowthatsamatt has left #postfix[03:25:14] *** danblack has joined #postfix[03:27:21] *** necrogami_ has left #postfix[03:27:55] *** p3rror has quit IRC[03:28:20] *** necrogami has joined #postfix[03:31:08] *** necrogami has quit IRC[03:31:09] *** necrogami has joined #postfix[03:31:21] *** necrogami is now known as Necrogami[03:34:53] *** devxdev has joined #postfix[03:47:58] *** jeev has quit IRC[03:48:36] *** jeev has joined #postfix[03:59:23] *** rob0 has joined #postfix[03:59:23] *** rob0 has joined #postfix[03:59:38] *** elex111117 has quit IRC[04:02:27] *** ki7rw has joined #postfix[04:03:11] <heller_barde> pj, is there any reason not to use the "virtual" virtual_transport[04:03:47] <pj> heller_barde: use it unless/until you have a specific need that it doesnt' fill.[04:04:17] <pj> for example, I use dovecot delivery for sieve support.[04:10:56] <heller_barde> pj, can you elaborate on "sieve support"?[04:11:05] <heller_barde> is that something i possibly need?[04:11:21] <pj> it may be something you will want...[04:11:26] <pj> !tell heller_barde sieve[04:11:26] <knoba> heller_barde: "sieve" : sieve is a language that can be used to create filters for email. see http://sieve.info/ , rfc 5228, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language) for more info[04:12:10] <pj> you know how thunderbird lets you create filters that move certain emails to other folders and may delete some emails or mark them as junk, etc...[04:12:16] <pj> sieve is like that, but it's server-side.[04:12:51] <heller_barde> oh I see[04:13:07] <heller_barde> sounds like something i can put in later in case i need it[04:13:28] <pj> I use it to deliver emails to a spam folder.[04:13:31] <pj> right[04:14:12] <heller_barde> where in the chain would stuff like ClamAV come in?[04:15:45] <pj> I run clamav from amavisd-new which is run as a content filter.[04:16:01] <heller_barde> okay and amavis goes in as a transport?[04:16:16] <pj> yes[04:16:55] <pj> there's an amavisfeed transport[04:17:18] <pj> there are instructions for amavisd-new[04:17:19] <heller_barde> I see. but I thought there can only be one transport? how are they chained together?[04:17:34] <pj> what do you mean?[04:17:40] <pj> you mean amavisd-new?[04:17:43] <pj> and clamav?[04:18:07] <pj> !amavisd[04:18:07] <knoba> pj: "amavisd" : see !amavisd-new[04:18:11] <pj> !amavisd-new[04:18:11] <knoba> pj: "amavisd-new" : amavisd-new is a high-performance and reliable interface between mailer (MTA) and one or more content checkers. See http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/[04:18:19] <heller_barde> well... amavisd-new (which does the clamav, right?) and then storing the mail[04:18:20] <pj> heller_barde: ^^^^^^^^^^^[04:18:38] <heller_barde> okay, let me have a look-see[04:18:42] <pj> well, it re-injects the email back to postfix[04:22:46] <heller_barde> oh[04:23:27] *** Blue-Dragon is now known as blue-dragon[04:23:45] <heller_barde> okay, I'll leave the complicated stuff off for now[04:24:17] <pj> hehehe[04:28:49] <heller_barde> pj, if I have a VPS that has a direct public IP, what do I put in for mynetworks_style or mynetworks?[04:29:33] <heller_barde> apparently mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 works, but why?[04:29:53] <pj> you really don't need anything else there.[04:30:07] <heller_barde> yeah, i noticed, but I don't understand why[04:30:10] <pj> 127.0.0.0/8 is localhost, you should know that.[04:30:15] <heller_barde> oh, i do[04:31:08] <pj> leave mynetworks_style as the default, it's not used if mynetworks is set.[04:31:16] <heller_barde> shouldn't it be 127.0.0.0/32?[04:31:24] <pj> no[04:31:35] <pj> you're thinking of 127.0.0.1[04:31:50] <pj> but the entire 127.0.0.0/8 space is localhost.[04:32:01] <pj> or ... loopback, actually[04:32:39] <heller_barde> ... but don't i want to listen from all addresses instead of just connections from localhost?[04:33:13] <pj> !tell heller_barde mynetworks[04:33:13] <knoba> heller_barde: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.[04:33:26] <pj> mynetworks has nothing to do with listening.[04:33:54] <pj> remember that postconf(5) doc I showed you? it's all in there.[04:34:01] <heller_barde> yeah, that's what I read[04:36:29] <heller_barde> hmm... alright[04:39:19] *** mroe has quit IRC[04:52:09] *** mroe has joined #postfix[04:52:09] *** mroe has joined #postfix[05:11:32] *** WozlII has quit IRC[05:12:41] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:15:24] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[05:16:45] *** nutron has quit IRC[05:22:47] *** mroe has quit IRC[05:40:59] *** devxdev has quit IRC[06:06:42] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[06:20:33] *** elex111117 has joined #postfix[06:27:28] *** ki7rw has quit IRC[06:52:14] *** heller_barde has quit IRC[07:03:04] *** shal3r has joined #postfix[07:50:42] *** trentg has quit IRC[07:53:12] *** trentg has joined #postfix[07:55:04] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:06:40] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[08:23:49] *** danblack has quit IRC[09:16:03] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[09:17:47] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:48:49] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:49:23] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[09:53:45] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[09:54:27] *** d3c has joined #postfix[10:01:27] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[10:18:19] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[10:24:55] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[10:45:05] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[11:27:44] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[11:29:13] *** jkfod has quit IRC[11:31:11] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[12:45:11] *** e-anima has quit IRC[12:47:46] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[12:49:08] *** tr-808 has joined #postfix[12:59:08] *** weedar has joined #postfix[13:04:02] *** nowthatsamatt has joined #postfix[13:04:18] *** nowthatsamatt has left #postfix[13:06:16] *** weedar has quit IRC[13:16:46] *** weedar has joined #postfix[13:20:07] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[13:21:04] *** weedar has quit IRC[13:25:08] *** mandragor has quit IRC[13:41:09] *** Guest02377-50092 has left #postfix[14:38:14] *** wdp has quit IRC[15:37:25] *** scientes has quit IRC[16:09:19] *** wdp has joined #postfix[16:09:19] *** wdp has joined #postfix[16:44:39] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[17:38:27] *** mfridh has joined #postfix[17:46:03] *** tr-808 has quit IRC[17:46:53] *** tr-808 has joined #postfix[18:14:04] *** chogath has joined #postfix[18:41:51] *** jkfod has quit IRC[18:43:19] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[18:45:33] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[18:50:56] *** ki7rw has joined #postfix[18:54:25] *** jkfod has quit IRC[18:59:23] *** devxdev has joined #postfix[19:37:29] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[19:46:54] *** cps0 has joined #postfix[19:47:02] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[20:05:02] *** wdp has quit IRC[20:07:22] *** matt1982 has joined #postfix[20:32:55] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[20:34:26] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[20:43:10] *** scientes has joined #postfix[20:45:36] *** mi_ has joined #postfix[20:52:38] *** biggzl has joined #postfix[20:55:44] *** biggimat has quit IRC[21:16:12] *** nowthatsamatt has joined #postfix[21:19:27] *** cps0 has quit IRC[21:29:36] *** mi_ is now known as mi[21:36:09] *** nowthatsamatt has quit IRC[22:28:11] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[22:37:03] *** NorrinRadd has quit IRC[22:38:45] *** mi has quit IRC[22:39:57] *** NorrinRa1d has joined #postfix[22:40:32] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:40:34] *** trentg has quit IRC[22:40:52] *** trentg has joined #postfix[22:51:39] *** matt1982 has quit IRC[22:52:39] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[22:55:14] *** biggzl has quit IRC[23:05:51] *** jkfod has quit IRC[23:05:54] *** e-anima has quit IRC[23:17:25] *** p3rror has quit IRC[23:20:39] *** docmur has joined #postfix[23:22:03] <docmur> I hope someone here can figure my issue out. So this is the first time I've tried to run a mail server, I can send mail but can't receive it, mail.log is: http://pastebin.com/07cCejCM and the postfix main.cf is: http://pastebin.com/NzQV9z1n, Can anyone see the issue[23:26:39] <Zerberus> smtpd_recipient_restrictions is broken[23:27:05] <docmur> okay, whats broken in it?[23:28:01] <Zerberus> docmur: please see man 5 postconf for the default and understand what your setting causes[23:28:34] *** s0ber_ has joined #postfix[23:29:17] <heller_barde> how do I decide what SASL provider to use? dovecot/cyrus/saslauthd?[23:30:10] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[23:30:31] <uqlev> heller_barde, depends on whether your postfix acts as sasl server only or as sasl client as well[23:30:44] *** s0ber has quit IRC[23:30:50] <Zerberus> heller_barde: if you already use dovecot and don't need client auth, then dovecot may be first choice[23:30:59] *** s0ber_ is now known as s0ber[23:31:05] <Zerberus> heller_barde: saslauthd comes with cyrus-sasl[23:32:12] <heller_barde> Zerberus, oh okay[23:32:44] <docmur> Zerberus, even if I go with the default options for smtpd_restriction I still get the same error output that I posted[23:32:59] *** grossing has quit IRC[23:34:13] <Zerberus> docmur: *both* smtpd_*_restrictions changed?[23:34:25] <uqlev> docmur, make sure you have account docmur at kw-flipcup dot ca[23:34:45] <docmur> Well it's virtual and I have the record in the mysql database[23:35:21] <uqlev> docmur, can you check it with postmap?[23:36:32] <docmur> okay what would I type to check that[23:37:06] <Zerberus> uqlev: the error was "access denied", not "user not in virtual ..."[23:37:33] *** grossing has joined #postfix[23:37:33] <docmur> Wow I think I got it[23:37:33] <docmur> one sec[23:38:53] <docmur> Sweet :-)[23:39:13] <docmur> Thanks anyway for your help guys![23:39:22] *** docmur has quit IRC[23:52:15] *** elico has joined #postfix[23:58:04] *** elico has quit IRC[23:58:25] *** elico has joined #postfix