June 9, 2012 
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June 9, 2012 [00:01:19] *** erratic has quit IRC[00:07:03] *** Areckx has quit IRC[00:07:30] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[00:11:34] *** Telgsta has joined #postfix[00:11:55] *** Telgalizer has quit IRC[00:14:11] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[00:17:34] *** inf_l00p has quit IRC[00:18:05] *** inf_l00p has joined #postfix[00:20:44] *** inf_l00p has quit IRC[00:21:07] *** inf_l00p has joined #postfix[00:21:41] *** ced117 has quit IRC[00:22:08] *** tr-808_ has quit IRC[00:30:45] *** carloimperia has joined #postfix[00:31:01] *** carloimperia has quit IRC[00:31:33] *** akv_ has joined #postfix[00:36:42] *** necrogami has quit IRC[00:36:42] *** jense has quit IRC[00:36:42] *** akv has quit IRC[00:36:44] *** necrogami_ has joined #postfix[00:38:11] *** AnGrYfUrBy has joined #postfix[00:39:38] *** Facefox has quit IRC[00:41:43] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[00:45:53] *** Facefox has joined #postfix[00:50:21] *** tris has quit IRC[00:54:21] *** kaos01 has joined #postfix[00:56:05] *** p3rror has quit IRC[00:58:19] *** tris has joined #postfix[00:59:52] *** eanima has quit IRC[01:04:12] <tharkun> /clear[01:08:43] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[01:11:55] <jimpop> /leave[01:13:36] * tharkun will slap anyone that gets near me with the space bar[01:15:09] <jimpop>[01:15:14] <jimpop>[01:15:17] <jimpop>[01:15:19] <jimpop>[01:20:41] <tharkun>[01:20:41] <tharkun>[01:20:42] <tharkun>[01:20:42] <tharkun>[01:20:42] <tharkun>[01:20:44] <tharkun>[01:20:47] <tharkun>[01:20:50] <tharkun>[01:20:52] <tharkun>[01:20:56] <tharkun>[01:20:58] <tharkun>[02:08:42] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:15:03] *** SelfishMan has quit IRC[02:17:27] *** SelfishMan has joined #postfix[02:29:08] *** danblack has joined #postfix[02:37:23] *** SelfishMan has quit IRC[02:39:15] *** SelfishMan has joined #postfix[02:50:54] *** jkfod has quit IRC[03:33:33] *** Creamz_ has quit IRC[03:45:32] *** danblack has quit IRC[03:46:44] *** starik has joined #postfix[03:47:18] *** starik has quit IRC[04:07:17] *** Corey has quit IRC[04:10:53] *** elex111117 has joined #postfix[04:11:43] *** elex111116 has quit IRC[04:24:44] *** mfridh has quit IRC[04:31:04] *** Corey has joined #postfix[04:36:19] *** aluchko has joined #postfix[04:54:13] *** ki7rw has joined #postfix[05:01:07] *** Blue-Dragon is now known as blue-dragon[05:03:24] *** Creamz has joined #postfix[05:11:05] *** ipnoz has quit IRC[05:12:31] *** MAAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:16:07] *** MAAAAD has quit IRC[05:17:13] *** ipnoz has joined #postfix[05:18:54] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[05:26:16] *** AnGrYfUrBy has quit IRC[05:59:04] *** NameBrand has left #postfix[06:16:41] *** aluchko has quit IRC[06:34:34] *** Areckx has joined #postfix[06:38:06] *** johnnynobody has joined #postfix[06:38:31] *** ki7rw has quit IRC[06:42:00] *** nigelb has joined #postfix[06:48:29] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[06:49:57] *** johnnynobody has quit IRC[06:50:12] <nigelb> My postfix seems to keep sending emails to root. Is there a way I can see the contents of this email or what is sending it?[06:51:02] <jimpop> mail -f /var/mail/root ?[06:52:09] <nigelb> nothing in there.[06:52:49] <jimpop> grep root /etc/postfix/aliases[06:53:23] <nigelb> no such file, but I had set /etc/mailname to be my primary domain.[06:53:37] <nigelb> The incoming to that domain is handled by google apps.[06:53:42] <nigelb> (big mistake, yeah)[06:53:51] <jimpop> i don't know then[06:54:24] <nigelb> I just removed the mailname[06:54:31] <nigelb> so that it hits this server back. hopefully.[06:56:59] *** nutron has quit IRC[07:07:15] *** jonez has quit IRC[07:09:02] *** npmapn has joined #postfix[07:18:47] *** mfridh has joined #postfix[07:20:05] *** jonez has joined #postfix[07:30:32] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[07:30:47] <heller_barde> hi lunaphyte[07:31:29] <heller_barde> thanks for your advice the other day. I am just reading through the standard config examples[07:34:23] <heller_barde> !welcome[07:34:23] <knoba> heller_barde: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[07:34:47] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[07:37:38] <pj> nigelb: it's probably in /etc/aliases, otherwise check, "postconf alias_maps"[07:41:19] *** jetty has joined #postfix[07:50:04] *** trentg has quit IRC[07:50:49] <heller_barde> pj, I read through the basic and standard configuration examples. things are a bit more clear to me now. thanks for your help the other day[07:51:20] <pj> heller_barde: ok, yw (Iguess, I don't recall helping you).[07:51:30] <heller_barde> pj, no problem :)[07:52:20] <heller_barde> pj, you explained to me why using postfix with saslauthd makes no sense when I already have a dovecot with sasl configured[07:52:32] *** trentg has joined #postfix[07:52:44] <pj> ahhh, yep[07:53:10] <pj> that's right you were following some messed up guide[07:53:25] <pj> IIRC there were a few things wrong with those directions.[07:53:43] <heller_barde> I am now considering skipping the ubuntu own package for postfix and compiling it myself, so i don't have the ubuntu "customizations"[07:53:44] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[07:53:54] <heller_barde> do you think that is a good idea at all?[07:55:10] <pj> if the ubuntu package is a new enough version then you are better off using it.[07:55:17] <Corey> !tutorial[07:55:17] <knoba> Corey: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[07:55:44] <heller_barde> pj okay[07:55:56] <heller_barde> pj, define new enough?[07:56:07] <pj> well, what version is it?[07:56:26] <heller_barde> 2.7.0[07:56:45] <heller_barde> (+ ubuntu patches)[07:57:07] <pj> ahhhh, I generally recommend at least version 2.8.x because it has postscreen. I would look for a launchpad or backport or something with a newer version.[07:57:17] <heller_barde> okay, i'll have a look[07:58:19] *** uqlev has quit IRC[07:58:54] <pj> heller_barde: I don't use ubuntu as a server OS so my help may be limited.[07:58:57] *** feisar has joined #postfix[07:59:16] <heller_barde> pj, don't worry, the ubuntu specific parts I can handle :)[07:59:24] <pj> cool[07:59:59] <heller_barde> pj, i am not a linux/ubuntu noob, i am just a bit intimidated with running a public facing service I don't know yet (e.g smtp/imap)[08:00:44] <pj> heller_barde: that's cool, I don't mind postfix newbies, it's people who are linux newbies that want to jump right into postfix that annoy me.[08:00:59] <heller_barde> mhhh... I can see that[08:01:43] <heller_barde> configuring backports now[08:01:52] <heller_barde> version 2.8.1 is in there[08:02:00] <heller_barde> that should do fine[08:02:02] *** trentg has quit IRC[08:02:32] *** trentg has joined #postfix[08:04:34] <pj> yep, that will be ok, although if you can find a 2.9.x that would be even better.[08:05:00] <pj> it has a few more minor features, but 2.8.x has postscreen and that is one you will likely want.[08:08:30] <heller_barde> what is postscreen, I didn't see that yet in the docs i read[08:08:51] <pj> !tell heller_barde postscreen[08:08:51] <knoba> heller_barde: "postscreen" : SMTP triage server available in Postfix 2.8, see http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/postscreen.8.html[08:13:36] <heller_barde> pj, i'm gonna stick with 2.8.5. I don't want to trust some random PPA, to be honest[08:15:02] <pj> heller_barde: sure, I understand[08:16:37] *** jetty has quit IRC[08:19:07] <heller_barde> pj, I will start over completely with my config now.[08:19:28] <pj> heller_barde: That's probably not really necessary.[08:19:40] <pj> you can if you want, it may give you a better learning experience.[08:19:49] <heller_barde> pj, what IMAP server would you suggest? is dovecot sensible?[08:19:57] <pj> yes, definately dovecot[08:20:22] <pj> but get your base postfix running before you add in the IMAP[08:20:36] <heller_barde> okay. well, if I don't start over completely, I will just have fragments of my previous experiments all over the place -.-[08:20:43] <heller_barde> messy[08:20:44] <pj> it's always best to do it in stages, rather than trying to install and configure everything at once.[08:20:52] <pj> heller_barde: sure[08:20:53] <heller_barde> yeah, that's what I noticed ^^[08:21:17] <heller_barde> I think I wasn't really sure of the interplay between SMTP and IMAP when I started out[08:21:30] <heller_barde> (the fact that they have nothing to do with each other ^^)[08:21:40] <heller_barde> except the maildir, of course[08:21:58] <pj> right, well that's what a good overview of how email in general helps.[08:22:30] <pj> the maildir has nothing to do with smtp either.[08:23:00] <heller_barde> pj, but it is where the smtp server stores incoming mails...[08:23:05] <pj> neither the smtp client or the smtpd server that comes with postifix cares a whit aboutyour maildir.[08:23:33] <pj> postfix also comes with a default delivery agent and *that* cares about your maildir.[08:23:44] <heller_barde> oh.[08:24:06] <heller_barde> goddarn, i thought I kinda saw through it ^^[08:24:22] <heller_barde> there is another moving wheel[08:24:24] <heller_barde> :D[08:24:34] <pj> postfix is made up a few different parts[08:24:45] <pj> and it pays to understand what they all do.[08:25:00] <heller_barde> yeah...[08:25:10] <jimpop> yeah, the parts are #postfix and postfix-users at postfix dot org[08:25:18] <pj> lol[08:25:30] <pj> don't listen to jimpop he's always confused[08:25:38] <pj> :-P[08:25:38] <jimpop> haha[08:34:37] <heller_barde> I have a file in /etc/postfix/dynamicmaps.cf that I can't find docs for[08:35:24] <heller_barde> it has only two lines in it: http://pastie.org/4054748[08:35:56] *** shoonya has quit IRC[08:42:36] <pj> that looks like an ubuntu extension[08:43:11] <pj> at a guess ubuntu has separated out the db drivers into dynamic libraries and that file defines where postfix needs to load those libs from.[08:43:42] <heller_barde> wonderful..[08:43:58] <pj> that is a complete guess[08:44:05] <heller_barde> that's okay[08:44:09] <pj> but it seems reasonable to me.[08:44:12] <heller_barde> I need to go anyway[08:44:15] <pj> I wouldn't worry about it.[08:44:20] <heller_barde> I won't[08:44:40] <heller_barde> I just don't particularly like stuff like that, because Ubuntu is awful at documenting such things[08:44:52] <heller_barde> because "it just works"[08:44:56] <heller_barde> ahaha...[08:45:17] <pj> yeah, well, there's a reason why I don't use ubuntu for servers.[08:45:34] <pj> but ... the way I see it, every distro has it's own set of quirks.[08:45:42] <heller_barde> mhh, true[08:45:56] <heller_barde> what do you use? I am considering switching to debian[08:45:58] <jimpop> dynamicmaps.cf is a debian'ism... which carries over to ubuntu[08:46:02] <pj> I use CentOS[08:46:09] *** tmberg has quit IRC[08:46:09] <heller_barde> jimpop, okay, thanks :)[08:46:14] <heller_barde> i see[08:46:23] <pj> jimpop: was my guess right about what it is for?[08:46:40] <jimpop> it specifies the lib paths for postfix addon capabilities[08:46:49] <pj> ok, close enough, then.[08:47:00] <heller_barde> alright, I'm off. see you some other time![08:47:07] <pj> ok, have a good one[08:47:15] <heller_barde> you too[08:47:16] <jimpop> heller_barde:[08:47:22] <jimpop> opps[08:47:24] <jimpop> sorry[08:47:27] <pj> hehehe[08:47:50] *** heller_barde has quit IRC[09:00:53] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[09:03:50] *** Areckx has quit IRC[09:05:32] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[09:08:48] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[09:15:42] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[09:17:37] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[09:21:52] *** on1ald has quit IRC[09:35:17] *** on1ald has joined #postfix[09:35:50] *** nuomi has quit IRC[09:48:25] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[09:52:22] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[10:00:13] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[10:02:33] *** shoonya has quit IRC[10:03:07] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[10:08:12] *** shoonya has quit IRC[10:11:26] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[10:11:32] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[10:18:47] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[10:22:39] *** jelly has quit IRC[10:24:12] *** jelly has joined #postfix[10:33:35] *** nuomi1 has joined #postfix[10:36:42] *** nuomi has quit IRC[10:38:36] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[10:38:45] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[10:50:08] *** tmberg has quit IRC[10:53:41] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[10:53:48] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[10:54:38] *** tmberg has quit IRC[10:55:12] *** tmberg has joined #postfix[10:58:22] *** uqlev has quit IRC[11:03:58] *** d3c has joined #postfix[11:08:00] *** nuomi1 has quit IRC[11:08:48] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:22:24] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[11:28:14] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[11:37:55] *** nuomi1 has joined #postfix[11:38:56] *** snearch has joined #postfix[11:39:40] *** nuomi has quit IRC[11:42:25] *** nuomi1 has quit IRC[11:44:27] *** shoonya has quit IRC[11:56:19] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[11:56:52] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[12:02:50] *** nuomi has quit IRC[12:30:11] *** Azzid has joined #postfix[12:40:50] *** ghoti has quit IRC[12:41:54] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[12:47:01] *** Wozl has joined #postfix[12:57:57] *** blue-dragon is now known as Blue-Dragon[13:02:24] *** jeev has quit IRC[13:10:08] *** jeev has joined #postfix[13:29:21] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[13:34:33] *** WozlII has joined #postfix[13:34:58] *** snearch has quit IRC[13:37:15] *** codin has quit IRC[13:37:55] *** Wozl has quit IRC[13:39:08] *** codin has joined #postfix[13:49:42] *** Alagar has joined #postfix[14:12:16] *** squinteye has joined #postfix[14:16:48] *** jeev has quit IRC[14:18:06] *** jeev has joined #postfix[14:20:49] *** AnGrYfUrBy has joined #postfix[14:20:56] *** WozlII has quit IRC[14:24:22] *** tjikkun has quit IRC[14:25:34] *** amir has quit IRC[14:26:24] *** amir has joined #postfix[14:31:47] *** jeev has quit IRC[14:33:37] *** jeev has joined #postfix[14:33:47] *** jeev has quit IRC[14:33:47] *** jeev has joined #postfix[14:36:15] *** elex111117 has quit IRC[14:36:43] *** jkfod has quit IRC[14:57:03] *** hesco1 has left #postfix[15:04:06] *** jeev has quit IRC[15:04:36] *** jeev has joined #postfix[15:09:42] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[15:11:22] *** squinteye has quit IRC[15:12:54] *** elex111117 has joined #postfix[15:22:08] *** thumbs has quit IRC[15:23:27] *** krzee has quit IRC[15:39:01] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[16:12:17] *** heller_barde has quit IRC[16:12:41] *** kaos01 has quit IRC[16:34:06] *** jeev has quit IRC[16:37:36] *** jeev has joined #postfix[16:42:39] *** d3c has quit IRC[16:44:36] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[16:51:35] *** NorrinRadd has joined #postfix[16:55:05] *** Wozl has joined #postfix[17:43:06] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[17:57:16] *** rob0 has quit IRC[18:07:12] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[18:14:52] *** MikeSeth has quit IRC[18:53:55] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[19:06:03] *** Nako has joined #postfix[19:06:26] <tmberg> !nolisting[19:06:27] <knoba> tmberg: Error: "nolisting" is not a valid command.[19:12:46] *** npmapn has left #postfix[19:14:17] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[19:17:16] *** Rickardo1 has joined #postfix[19:18:48] <Rickardo1> I have made a successful install of postfix courier pop3 server and everything works despite of sending mail through it´s smtp to other receipients than local.. I got .... Relay access denied', Port: 26, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 554[19:20:54] <Zerberus> that is not postfix logging, look at that[19:21:01] <Zerberus> !tell Rickardo1 relay_denied[19:21:01] <knoba> Rickardo1: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_do[19:21:57] <Rickardo1> Zerberus: "and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains"[19:22:37] <Zerberus> Rickardo1: read the syslog() output, comprehend it[19:26:40] *** feisar has quit IRC[19:34:38] *** snearch has joined #postfix[19:41:34] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[19:59:20] *** WozlII has joined #postfix[20:03:40] *** Wozl has quit IRC[20:21:37] *** AnGrYfUrBy has quit IRC[20:33:13] *** AnGrYfUrBy has joined #postfix[20:34:28] <tharkun> Gentlemen i get this mail from 103.8.25.70 which is indeed a phishing attempt, how can i make life difficult on this guys?[20:36:15] * tharkun doesn't like beeing disturbed by phone Saturday Morning[20:41:10] *** snearch has quit IRC[20:41:33] <AnGrYfUrBy> how to make sure tls is enabled on post fix[20:41:50] <AnGrYfUrBy> * how do you make sure tls is enabled in postfix[20:42:11] <tharkun> !tell AnGrYfUrBy saslclient[20:42:12] <knoba> AnGrYfUrBy: "saslclient" : See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl when you need client-side SASL authentication to deliver mail to another server[20:43:31] <AnGrYfUrBy> sasclient is configured correctly but i get constant timeout[20:43:49] <AnGrYfUrBy> Jun 9 14:38:52 kxef postfix/smtp[4003]: connect to smtp.gmail.com[74.125.130.108]:587: Connection timed out[20:44:19] *** SelfishMan has quit IRC[20:52:54] *** SelfishMan has joined #postfix[21:04:36] *** mfridh has quit IRC[21:08:22] *** nowthatsamatt has joined #postfix[21:08:51] *** nowthatsamatt has left #postfix[21:18:40] *** heller_barde has joined #postfix[21:18:52] <heller_barde> hi guys :)[21:28:15] *** jkfod has quit IRC[21:34:42] *** Rickardo1 has quit IRC[21:42:14] <heller_barde> so my postfix installation is responsible for multiple domains and the DNS entries for those domains all point to the server. what should I put down for $myhostname and how does it matter?[21:45:18] <tharkun> heller_barde: pick the name you feel most comfortable with. It really doesn't matter since you will not recieve messages addressed to user at machine dot example.com[21:46:17] <heller_barde> tharkun, hm, but the commented config files says that "it is used as a default value for many other config parameters"[21:46:32] <heller_barde> if it doesn't matter, that's okay too :)[21:47:22] <tharkun> heller_barde: pick one and if something fails feel free to ask again 8)[21:47:34] <heller_barde> tharkun, thanks, that sounds sensible :)[21:47:53] <tharkun> np[21:48:15] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[21:52:03] *** Nako has quit IRC[21:52:57] <heller_barde> if a line in the config runs long, can I wrap it and if so, under what circumstances and rules?[21:53:41] <heller_barde> (i read the basic config guide and am in the process of reading through the "Standard configuration examples" document)[21:56:21] <tharkun> heller_barde: IIRC start the next line with whitespace[21:56:37] <heller_barde> that seems congruent with examples I saw. 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