June 7, 2012 
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June 7, 2012 [00:00:15] *** chogath has quit IRC[00:01:45] *** e-anima has quit IRC[00:03:16] *** amir_ has joined #postfix[00:03:27] *** amir_ has joined #postfix[00:06:54] <tharkun> defunct: /j #php[00:07:46] <thumbs> yes, ask ##php[00:10:09] <tharkun> Kre10s__: Could you please explain me what does snmp have to do with courier-imap. And also why would you ask a courier question on #postfix. It doesn't even make sense.[00:11:22] <Kre10s__> I figgured people working with postfix might also have experience with courier...[00:12:00] <tharkun> Kre10s__: If you asked about dovecot, well chances are way higher. But courier tough luck[00:13:36] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[00:15:19] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[00:15:26] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[00:15:34] *** chad has joined #postfix[00:23:06] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[00:36:07] *** chad has quit IRC[00:43:46] *** SockPants has quit IRC[00:48:54] *** SockPants has joined #postfix[00:52:14] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[01:01:25] *** robinho86 has left #postfix[01:15:16] *** defunct has left #postfix[01:29:08] *** tmberg has quit IRC[01:48:49] *** Marf has quit IRC[02:17:03] *** z0kum has quit IRC[02:17:17] *** zokum has joined #postfix[02:20:06] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:20:54] *** jakechapa has joined #postfix[02:21:08] <jakechapa> Port 25 is open, but I can't tell if im running postfix or sendmail.[02:21:14] <jakechapa> any suggestions on how to narrow it down[02:21:39] <thumbs> jakechapa: telnet to port 25.[02:21:45] <jakechapa> right[02:21:48] <jakechapa> that's another weird thing[02:21:58] <thumbs> !telnet[02:21:58] <knoba> thumbs: "telnet" : Have you tried to reach your mail server from outside your local network? Try telnet <server> 25 and see if you get Connected to... . See also: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/SMTP,_testing_via_Telnet[02:21:59] <jakechapa> Connected to localhost.[02:21:59] <jakechapa> Escape character is '^]'.[02:21:59] <jakechapa> Connection closed by foreign host.[02:22:18] <jakechapa> i get in then get booted out[02:22:28] <jakechapa> intakick[02:22:40] <thumbs> !helo test[02:22:40] <thumbs> !helo[02:22:40] <thumbs> bah[02:22:40] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "helo" is not a valid command.[02:22:41] <knoba> thumbs: "helo" : The domain name given in the HELO or EHLO command MUST be either a host name that is resolvable to an DNS Resource Record address, or an IP address literal.[02:23:01] <jakechapa> wow thumbs you're here too[02:23:03] <jakechapa> lol[02:23:06] <thumbs> jakechapa: check your package manager.[02:23:11] <jakechapa> are you the same thumbs as in #httpd?[02:23:12] <thumbs> jakechapa: I'm in many channels.[02:23:22] <jakechapa> are you real?[02:23:39] <jakechapa> thumbs: Both packages are installed, I"m not sure which one is active though[02:23:53] <jakechapa> i tried ps aux | grep postfix and ps aux | grep sendmail[02:23:56] <jakechapa> both return nothing[02:24:08] <thumbs> in any case, a simple HELO test will confirm the version.[02:24:08] <thumbs> jakechapa: ps?[02:24:10] <jakechapa> do the daemons run off a nother naem?[02:24:13] *** trentg has quit IRC[02:24:21] <jakechapa> ps - report a snapshot of the current processes.[02:24:45] <thumbs> root 674 0.0 0.0 6968 1792 ? Ss Apr25 1:25 /usr/libexec/postfix/master[02:24:46] <jakechapa> thumbs: I can't issue an HELO command because it boots me[02:25:03] <jakechapa> i get the boot before I can send any data though[02:25:07] <thumbs> jakechapa: if you don't see that, postfix is not running :)[02:25:26] <jakechapa> well if postfix isn't running[02:25:27] <thumbs> jakechapa: then most likely something else is listening on port 25 - man netstat; man lsof[02:25:28] <jakechapa> and sendmail isn't running[02:25:48] <thumbs> jakechapa: i have to run.[02:26:04] <jakechapa> k[02:26:12] *** mambaw has joined #postfix[02:29:33] *** p3rror has quit IRC[02:31:25] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[02:31:41] *** trentg has joined #postfix[02:40:30] *** Driver has joined #postfix[02:56:31] *** nutron has quit IRC[02:56:54] *** Kre10s__ has left #postfix[02:57:32] *** nutron has joined #postfix[03:07:59] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[03:19:51] *** laner has joined #postfix[03:27:29] *** Belial has quit IRC[04:05:31] *** jkfod has quit IRC[04:07:42] *** jetty has joined #postfix[04:08:16] *** jetty has quit IRC[04:08:16] *** jetty has joined #postfix[04:09:48] <jetty> !welcome[04:09:50] <knoba> jetty: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[04:10:31] <jetty> welcome[04:24:40] *** elex111113 has joined #postfix[04:25:18] *** elex111112 has quit IRC[04:25:37] <jimpop> @welcome[04:25:42] <jimpop> +welcome[04:25:51] <jimpop> ~welcome[04:30:35] *** ki7rw has joined #postfix[04:43:29] *** ki7rw has quit IRC[04:56:45] *** grefter has quit IRC[05:06:09] *** MAAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:10:13] *** MAAAAD has quit IRC[05:21:44] *** tmberg has joined 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compat rpm out there[06:13:30] <pj> 2.6 is still a supported version of postfix, but it's missing postscreen.[06:13:58] <pj> I'm sure there are a few people who have packaged it, the thing is, do you trust a package built by some stranger?[06:18:05] <jimpop> Corey: this looks possible: http://pkgs.org/download/postfix[06:18:21] <jimpop> pkgs.org has a solid rep[06:19:10] <jeev> JIMBOB[06:19:17] <jimpop> hehe[06:19:33] <pj> yep, looks like a good one.[06:19:55] *** fbh has quit IRC[06:22:03] <Corey> Hmm.[06:22:04] *** fbh has joined #postfix[06:25:25] *** laner has quit IRC[06:28:12] *** laner has joined #postfix[06:45:31] *** gongoputch has quit IRC[06:54:38] *** jetty has quit IRC[07:06:46] *** laner has quit IRC[07:07:15] *** laner has joined #postfix[07:09:51] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[07:13:23] <Corey> rob0: You usually rail against mysql serving as a user + domain database, what do you generally opt for instead?[07:13:45] *** laner has quit IRC[07:18:55] *** RadoQ has quit 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quit IRC[10:59:16] *** gueux_ has joined #postfix[11:00:38] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[11:03:06] *** gueux_ has left #postfix[11:03:22] *** gueux has joined #postfix[11:03:26] <gueux> hi[11:03:34] <gueux> is it possible to specify a fallback for each entry in sender_dependent_relayhost_maps?[11:10:40] *** Nico_Yustian has joined #postfix[11:11:09] *** Nico_Yustian has left #postfix[11:11:43] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[11:26:20] *** shal3r_ has quit IRC[11:28:01] *** GieltjE has quit IRC[11:29:19] *** jetty has joined #postfix[11:35:55] *** kyconquers has quit IRC[11:39:37] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[11:56:00] *** feisar has joined #postfix[12:11:45] *** nuomi has quit IRC[12:12:36] *** lawnchair has quit IRC[12:12:50] *** lawnchair has joined #postfix[12:33:24] *** chthonic has joined #postfix[12:38:15] *** codin has quit IRC[12:42:25] *** codin has joined #postfix[12:52:27] *** grefter has quit IRC[13:00:02] *** shal3r_ has joined #postfix[13:03:45] *** 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hi[14:46:03] <kryl> I have sender_dependent_relayhost_maps defined in my main.cf config file, but I can't read any logs from well use of this parameter, I'm wondering why postfix doesn't take care after this ?[14:46:41] <kryl> I follow this tutorial : http://www.millcreeksys.com/how-to-configure-your-postfix-server-to-relay-email-through-amazon-simple-email-service-ses/[14:47:46] <kryl> it appears to be a problem like that : I am using postfix 2.3.2, the sender_dependent_relayhost_maps works[14:47:47] <kryl> fine in main.cf , but when i use it in another smtpd configured in[14:47:47] <kryl> master.cf , it doesn't work[14:48:06] <kryl> because I change my master.cf to use dkim outbound[14:48:10] <kryl> any help are welcome ;)[14:49:47] <kryl> http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0611/0459.html[14:50:38] <patdk-wk> kryl, dont you think, before posting all that stuff, it would help to read the topic first?[14:50:50] <patdk-wk> even with all that crap you said, we still can't help you at all[14:52:34] *** Timmooo is now known as Timzzzz[14:54:36] <thumbs> Timzzzz: please disable your away nicknames.[14:55:15] <patdk-wk> Timmooo is now known as killed-by-thumbs[14:58:00] <kryl> everything is explained in good english in the last url ![14:59:16] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[15:02:15] <patdk-wk> kryl, explainations don't help solve problems, without logs and configs[15:02:30] <patdk-wk> how can we tell you what yo udid wrong, when we can't see the config? that you claim doesn't work?[15:02:37] <patdk-wk> man, why can't people freaking read anymore[15:03:15] <kryl> it's theorical question[15:03:43] <kryl> forget this I'll find by searching by myself ;)[15:03:54] <patdk-wk> theorical? so you don't have any issues?[15:04:21] <patdk-wk> nothing you said was theorical, you stated you had issues[15:04:57] <kryl> in the thread I gave you, problem was solved by adding a second instance of postfix but it's not possible for me. I try to figure out.[15:06:44] *** mambaw has quit IRC[15:27:30] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[15:29:06] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[15:29:22] *** sami has left #postfix[15:29:51] *** MAAAAAD has joined #postfix[15:32:51] *** jkfod has quit IRC[15:44:36] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:48:50] <kryl> is there a tool or debug mode to follow which transport a mail use or to profile postfix use ?[15:52:17] <lunaphyte_> there's sendmail -bv[15:53:21] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:01:43] *** jetty has quit IRC[16:04:30] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[16:11:45] *** mandragor has quit IRC[16:15:06] *** waldi has quit IRC[16:20:13] *** Ub_user has joined #postfix[16:21:40] <Ub_user> Hi all! I have to replace a lotus domino server with a wonderful postfix, but during migration i have to use both the server at the same time[16:21:49] <Ub_user> how can i do it?[16:22:50] <thumbs> Ub_user: DNS and TTL?[16:23:14] <thumbs> Ub_user: what MDA are you using?[16:25:01] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:26:00] <Ub_user> you talk to diffucult for me! :)[16:26:22] <Ub_user> i use the default configuration in postfix...[16:26:40] <thumbs> !mda[16:26:40] <knoba> thumbs: "mda" : Mail Delivery Agent: software that delivers mail messages to individual recipient mailboxes after they've been accepted by an MTA. Postfix includes local(8) and virtual(8) MDAs, or can be configured to use an external one.[16:26:56] <thumbs> !tell Ub_user overview[16:26:56] <knoba> Ub_user: "overview" : Postfix Architecture Overview : http://www.postfix.org/OVERVIEW.html[16:26:58] <lunaphyte_> i'd encourage you to contract the services of an experienced mail and network admin.[16:27:19] <Ub_user> wait....[16:27:51] <lunaphyte_> if concepts like dns, ttl, and mda or foreign to you, then you need to include someone else who is familiar and experienced with these concepts.[16:28:01] <lunaphyte_> *are foreign[16:28:12] <thumbs> Ub_user: migrating mailboxes might get tricky[16:28:28] <Ub_user> i do not understand the answare...[16:28:33] <lunaphyte_> right, we know.[16:28:34] <Ub_user> why you ask me about dns?[16:28:46] <lunaphyte_> that's where the experienced mail and network admin comes into play.[16:29:17] <thumbs> Ub_user: it's easy to deploy a postfix server. It's hard to configure it properly, and much harder to migrate one.[16:29:27] *** Toerkeium has quit IRC[16:29:39] <Ub_user> i hav not toi migrate postfix..i have to migrate domino :)[16:29:58] <thumbs> Ub_user: migration implies moving from one system to another.[16:30:34] *** blue-dragon is now known as Blue-Dragon[16:30:58] <Ub_user> :) ok[16:31:39] <Ub_user> but... with my scenario... what did you do?[16:31:53] <lunaphyte_> if you pay me 80% of the money you're getting for this, i'll help you[16:32:14] <thumbs> Ub_user: I planned, planned again, planned more, tested, tested more, and migrated.[16:32:32] <thumbs> Ub_user: if you want specifics, you'll need to ask precise questions.[16:32:58] * patdk-wk asks thumbs about ubuntu precise[16:33:13] <thumbs> patdk-wk: sorry, I don't deal with ubuntu. personal choice.[16:33:23] <patdk-wk> but they are precise questions :)[16:34:15] <patdk-wk> heh, ub_user, you really don't want to use both at the same time[16:34:16] <Ub_user> ok... thumbs... i thinked about transport maps... during account migration, i will use transport maps to send email to postfix or to lotus... ok?[16:34:38] <patdk-wk> how many users?[16:34:39] <Ub_user> but... postfix do it... and domino!?[16:34:41] * thumbs boggles[16:35:45] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[16:36:18] <thumbs> Ub_user: what MDA are you using?[16:36:32] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[16:37:55] <Ub_user> maildrop[16:49:35] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[16:54:31] *** UQlev has quit IRC[17:01:29] *** ced117[-] has quit IRC[17:01:52] <Ub_user> sorry...i'm backl[17:12:04] *** BluesMurf has left #postfix[17:13:11] *** wdp has joined #postfix[17:13:28] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[17:13:48] *** tuxick has joined #postfix[17:14:13] *** UNIXgod has quit IRC[17:14:22] <tuxick> re[17:14:41] <tuxick> why does postfix ignore host.conf,hosts file?[17:18:31] *** UNIXgod has joined #postfix[17:23:52] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:23:52] *** wdp has joined #postfix[17:23:57] <wdp> tuxick, its either doing that because your postfix runs chrooted and you haven't edited the correct file, or you want to ask your nsswitch.conf in /etc which might override that behavior.[17:24:11] <wdp> you know, you could have provided more information .)[17:26:06] <tuxick> you helped me alread, forgot about chroot, thanks :)[17:26:24] * tharkun bets on debian install[17:27:07] <tuxick> yes[17:27:11] <wdp> tuxick, my crystal ball is good, isn't it.[17:27:18] <tuxick> very![17:28:51] <tuxick> i suppose this fixed it, i'll wait and see[17:29:04] <tuxick> but i thought hosts,bind was default[17:29:14] <tuxick> there was no host.conf file in chroot btw[17:36:43] <tharkun> tuxick: file the bug report if you think it is a most or fix the init.d script to include it[17:43:06] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:44:59] *** kryl has quit IRC[17:48:06] <tuxick> @debin?[17:49:16] <tuxick> hmm, looks like it didn't help[17:49:25] <tuxick> can't imagine i need to restart postfix[17:51:07] <tharkun> tuxick: lamont jones is the debian maintainer of postfix he will surely take a look at your request.[17:51:33] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[17:52:46] <tuxick> ack[17:53:23] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[17:55:26] <patdk-wk> but postfix doesn't use hosts file by default[17:56:25] <tuxick> i might have found issue[17:56:38] <tuxick> been using postfix reload instead of the rc script[17:57:38] <tuxick> hmm[17:57:53] <tuxick> nope that wasn't it[17:59:15] <tuxick> ahah, google to teh resque[17:59:54] <tuxick> ?mtp_host_lookup[17:59:56] <tharkun> tuxick: Lets stop waging and start working. what is your goal?[18:00:43] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[18:03:02] <tuxick> nevermind, it's sorted :)[18:04:37] <tuxick> smtp_host_lookup = native makes it use nsswitch and friends[18:05:12] <tuxick> but for some reason 'dns' is preferred[18:06:06] <tuxick> problem was box is behind nat, and trying to connect to assp via outside ip[18:06:28] <tuxick> so it's fix router or config :)[18:13:23] *** Ub_user has quit 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blue-dragon[20:39:39] *** Toerkeium has joined #postfix[20:52:13] *** Telgalizer has joined #postfix[21:05:54] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[21:07:50] *** Telgalizer has quit IRC[21:11:23] *** Telgalizer has joined #postfix[21:12:14] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[21:20:40] *** g105b has joined #postfix[21:20:57] <g105b> !welcome[21:20:57] <knoba> g105b: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[21:47:33] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[21:50:28] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[21:51:41] <g105b> Hi, I would like to set up a server that acts as an outbound gateway for Google Apps. Can Postfix do this? I would like to use it if possible to append a message to all outgoing mail before it is sent.[21:52:13] <adaptr> an MTA is not the place to alter messages, no[21:58:20] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:03:00] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:05:13] <g105b> adaptr: can you suggest some software that is?[22:05:33] <adaptr> not offhand, no.[22:05:38] <adaptr> !Tell g105b goal[22:05:40] <knoba> g105b: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[22:05:41] <adaptr> !tell g105b goal[22:05:42] <knoba> g105b: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[22:06:28] <g105b> adaptr: What is the significance of 'goal'?[22:09:59] *** weedar has joined #postfix[22:11:36] <roe> g105b, he's trying to figure out what your high-level goal is[22:12:01] <thumbs> g105b: we think you're trying to solve the wrong problem, in other words[22:12:12] <g105b> My earlier message: I would like to set up a server that acts as an outbound gateway for Google Apps.[22:12:33] <g105b> I didn't know if Postfix was the correct type of software, as I know nothing about it.[22:12:41] <g105b> (But I'm willing to learn if it is)[22:12:46] <adaptr> that has nothing to do with "it must append shit to messages". so you have either two goals, or one wrong one[22:13:13] <adaptr> postfix can act as a mail gateway, sure[22:13:21] <adaptr> it's an MTA. that's what an MTA does.[22:17:08] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[22:19:17] <g105b> Maybe my definition of outbound gateway is incorrect. Using Google Apps, it is possible to supply an outbound gateway IP with which I plan to append data compliance messages to all emails sent. Have I got wrong goals?[22:19:44] <adaptr> they're not the same thing.[22:19:59] <adaptr> but yes, that's not what a gateway does.[22:20:14] *** weedar has quit IRC[22:32:10] *** UNIXgod has quit IRC[22:32:11] *** UNIXgod has joined #postfix[22:33:33] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[22:37:11] *** biggimat has quit IRC[22:38:03] <tharkun> What happens if an ipv6 mta tries to send mail to my ipv4 only mailserver? How does it get through?[22:38:49] *** weedar has joined #postfix[22:38:51] <adaptr> an ipv6-only MTA ?[22:38:57] <tharkun> yes[22:38:58] <adaptr> i.e., no ipv4 connectivity ?[22:39:24] <adaptr> if neither v4 MX nor a v4 A record are found, postfix gives up. unroutable.[22:39:37] <adaptr> *v6, sorry[22:40:04] <tharkun> so I need to get an ipv6 ip in order to recieve such mail. Right[22:40:18] <adaptr> yup![22:40:37] <adaptr> but they're giving those away for free[22:40:43] <adaptr> I have a /56 right here[22:41:21] <tharkun> Let me ask my provider about that.[22:42:31] *** cps0 has quit IRC[22:43:40] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[22:43:44] <adaptr> (you won't likely get a /56; that's 256 world-routable ipv6 networks :)[22:43:48] <adaptr> I just have a cool ISP[22:45:01] *** weedar has quit IRC[22:46:14] <tharkun> adaptr: "We are also offering the ability to have an entire /64 or /56 subnet " he he mine is cooler[22:46:24] <adaptr> ...in what way[22:46:53] <tharkun> Actually it ain't my isp it is my vps provider[22:47:10] <adaptr> how is your /56 cooler than mine[22:47:12] <adaptr> idjit[22:49:28] *** uqlev has quit IRC[22:50:21] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[22:58:13] *** krzee has quit IRC[22:59:29] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[23:02:26] <pj> tharkun: while it is a good idea for you to get on the IPv6 bandwagon, your concern is a non-issue. It is going to be some time yet before anyone who wants their outbound email to be recieved by more than a fraction of the other MTAs will not have IPv4 connectivity. Anyone who does IPv6 now will end up doing both.[23:03:03] <pj> and if they don't have IPv4 your server is certainly not the only one they won't be able to send email to.[23:03:23] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[23:04:52] *** g105b has quit IRC[23:09:53] *** s0ber_ has joined #postfix[23:11:49] *** s0ber has quit IRC[23:12:05] *** s0ber_ is now known as s0ber[23:15:52] * tharkun slaps adaptr with his free /56 ISP offer[23:16:12] <tharkun> Anyway my ISP has no plans of getting ipv6 on the near future[23:17:08] *** PatrickDK has quit IRC[23:17:12] <pj> your home ISP?[23:17:16] <pj> get a tunnel[23:17:31] <pj> http://tunnelbroker.net/[23:18:39] <tharkun> pj: thanks for the link[23:18:45] <pj> yw :-)[23:19:23] *** e-anima has quit IRC[23:34:37] *** mandragor has quit IRC[23:41:52] *** PatrickDK has joined #postfix[23:58:19] *** chad has joined #postfix