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[02:39:52] <Mystique> hey all..
[02:40:04] <Mystique> is there a 'trick' to getting isoqlog working with postfix 2.9?
[02:41:12] <rob0> what is isoqlog?
[02:41:32] <Mystique> it runs but it's not filling out right, ie shows all the users (valid and invalid..)
[02:41:43] <Mystique> a 'really old' log file parser..
[02:42:06] <rob0> you might be interested in:
[02:42:11] <rob0> !pflogsumm
[02:42:12] <knoba> rob0: "pflogsumm" : a perl script to analyse your mail log file and generate nice reports. See: http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html (metalog users see the !mpflogsumm factoid)
[02:45:42] <Mystique> http://www.enderunix.org/isoqlog/output/ I have almost 7 years of data (with exim..) in isoqlog..
[02:45:56] <Mystique> and 1000+ domains.. :P
[02:46:15] <Mystique> that would totally 'suck' if there is nothing like that for postfix..
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[02:47:54] <jimpop> it sucks that the isoqlog folks haven't upgraded their product since 2004
[02:48:28] <jimpop> does postfix 2.9 support Windows 3.1 ?
[02:49:33] <Mystique> and pflogsumm does the whole server.. nothing 'per domain' ?
[02:52:51] <jimpop> it's perl, it can be modified to do per-domain. iirc, i did such years ago.
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[02:53:53] <mercfate> hello
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[02:57:14] <mercfate> hello, i can use smtp autentications for relay with mysql?
[02:58:07] <PatrickDK> dunno
[02:58:14] <mercfate> i found a how to, slackware + mysql + dovecot + postfix and i need to set up authentications for exetrnal clients
[02:58:15] <PatrickDK> ask your sasl provider
[02:58:36] <mercfate> how i can do that?
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[02:58:47] <PatrickDK> read the dovecot manual?
[02:58:59] <mercfate> sasl can authenticate on mysql database?
[02:59:20] <PatrickDK> dovecot sasl can
[02:59:30] <mercfate> ans postfix?
[02:59:33] <mercfate> and*
[02:59:38] <PatrickDK> postfix can't
[02:59:45] <PatrickDK> didn't I just say that?
[02:59:59] <PatrickDK> postfix doesn't support authenication
[03:00:08] <PatrickDK> postfix sends it off to sasl
[03:00:18] <mercfate> im now on postfox
[03:00:21] <mercfate> new
[03:00:30] <PatrickDK> !sasl
[03:00:30] <knoba> PatrickDK: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[03:00:49] <mercfate> hm
[03:01:08] <mercfate> i can use dovecot to autenticate with sasl?
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[09:00:34] <ninan> hi. i am in the process of moving my servers to a new datacenter. the new datacenter sits behind a cisco pix firewall. On my postfix server i get a lot messages about "enabling pix workarounds" which leads to the conclusion, that my provider has smtp-fixup enabled. I set the old mail server as smart host for the new one and a lot of messages don't get delivered due timeout exceeded (in reply to end of DATA command)) errors. win
[09:00:35] <ninan> dow-scaling is disabled. What can i do?
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[09:01:33] <ninan> some mails get delivered anyway.
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[10:30:14] <pithagorians> hi. will smtpd_recipient_restrictions have effect when the sender address was already marked as spammer?
[10:31:38] <pithagorians> by spamassassin
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[12:55:53] <cali> how can I figure out what process has tried to send an email though postfix?
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[12:58:49] <UQlev> cali: did you check your logfile?
[12:59:16] <cali> UQlev, of course.
[12:59:25] <cali> UQlev, machine is now used to send spam.
[13:00:19] <cali> I believe it is a php website that was vulnerable.
[13:00:26] <UQlev> is spam submitted via smtp port or via sendmail?
[13:00:45] <cali> however I activated log file over mail() function and i cannot see much.
[13:00:46] <UQlev> yes php-scripts are most probable candidate
[13:01:25] <cali> sent through postfix/smtp
[13:02:05] <UQlev> what is your OS?
[13:02:43] <cali> UQlev, GNU/Linux
[13:03:37] <UQlev> netstat -anp will show you processes using tcp ports
[13:04:58] <cali> UQlev, the problem is that it seems that all the emails are put in the queue at once.
[13:07:33] <UQlev> I have no clue
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[13:09:16] <UQlev> I would recommend to shutdown postfix completely to prevent spam delivery prior your IP is blacklisted
[13:10:57] <UQlev> cali: php -v
[13:11:10] <UQlev> show me reply please
[13:12:17] <cali> UQlev, yup, but I'm afraid that if I shut it down I got no way to find out where it comes from.
[13:12:32] <cali> in the php mail() function logs I see normal activities.
[13:13:18] <UQlev> mail() submits via sendmail
[13:13:47] <UQlev> or script can directly call sendmail command
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[13:14:50] <UQlev> monitor all ports listened
[13:15:32] <cali> UQlev, It is supposed to use postfix as I've made the configuration to be so in php.ini
[13:16:47] <UQlev> any php application could be compromised on your server because php version is rather old
[13:17:19] <cali> UQlev, well it is the latest version of PHP provided by debian stable.
[13:18:44] <UQlev> I have no idea about debian stable they might have own patches, but other distros use 5.4.3 nowadays
[13:19:41] <cali> testing got 5.4 also.
[13:19:47] <cali> but I don't think this is the issue.
[13:19:55] <cali> also it shows in logs that postfix is used.
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[13:23:20] <UQlev> cali: postfix itself is very safe. Problems begin when you allow apache+php on the same server
[13:23:59] <cali> UQlev, yup, but how could I at least tell postfix to show me that the mails come from www-data?
[13:24:53] <UQlev> cali: I guess you should instruct php to log more verbosely
[13:25:14] <UQlev> and shutdown postfix to see where errors will come from
[13:26:09] <cali> UQlev, no way to tell postfix PID used?
[13:27:58] <UQlev> I have no clue
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[13:28:56] <UQlev> if it is script what will PID show you
[13:29:04] <UQlev> process was in the past
[13:29:15] <UQlev> it is not daemon
[13:31:01] <UQlev> regret I have to go
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[16:04:13] <cali> is there a way to determine how postfix ahs been called? (there is a php script which appears to be vulnerable and some attackers are massively spamming).
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[16:07:06] <Dominian> called?
[16:07:10] <Dominian> postfix isn't 'called'...
[16:07:52] <Dominian> How's the PHP script sending it's email?
[16:07:56] <Dominian> PHP Mail function... calling sendmail?
[16:08:35] <srg> cali: php.ini has your sendmail settings
[16:08:40] <srg> for the php mail() function
[16:09:05] <srg> it uses the sendmail binany
[16:09:43] <srg> The default is "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i"
[16:09:54] <lunaphyte_> so then that's how it's being called
[16:09:56] <srg> the ini option is sendmail_path. See also #PHP :-P
[16:11:06] <lunaphyte_> the answer is, of course, as always, and as with any software, the log data.
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[16:13:54] <sh00b_> Hi people, one question: How do I get a domain that is identical to another. To authenticate with either going to the same maildir? thanks
[16:14:07] <Dominian> do what?
[16:14:42] <sh00b_> have two identical domains
[16:15:30] <cali> Dominian, let's just say that I can see in the postfix logs that there is a so massive spamming campaign sent through us, and that I guess it comes from php but I got no evidences, how can i prove that?
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[16:16:46] <UQlev> sh00b_: having system accounts you may multiple domains for same set of usernames, each user owns one maildir
[16:17:33] <sh00b_> no, I have a mail server itself, and I have two domains. I have configured the server with a domain and want to have another virtual domain alias first.
[16:17:43] <Dominian> !virtual_alias_domain
[16:17:44] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "virtual_alias_domain" is not a valid command.
[16:17:44] <sh00b_> sorry pro my english :P
[16:17:46] <Dominian> damn it
[16:18:02] <Dominian> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
[16:18:11] <Dominian> !virtual_alias_domains
[16:18:11] <knoba> Dominian: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.
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[16:19:43] <sh00b_> yes ,I set it, but when I try loggin  I get an error
[16:20:05] <sh00b_> as the user does not exist
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[16:29:56] <cali> fuck, I can't find where this fuckin spam is coming from...
[16:30:57] <rob0> you have a PHP script which is sending spam? Not much Postfix can do about that, sounds like a PHP problem.
[16:31:04] <rob0> You can do this:
[16:31:13] <rob0> !authorized_submit_users
[16:31:13] <knoba> rob0: "authorized_submit_users" : List of users who are authorized to submit mail with the sendmail(1) command (and with the privileged postdrop(1) helper command).
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[16:31:29] <rob0> and except your httpd user from that list
[16:31:36] <cali> rob0, I don't even know if it is PHP becauseI don't know how to figure out where it comes from.
[16:31:45] <cali> I can just see postfix sending massive mails.
[16:31:53] <rob0> but then there is no sending AT ALL by any web-based app
[16:32:07] <rob0> Step one: postfix stop
[16:32:17] <rob0> Step two: log analysis
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[16:40:06] <zfmf> he guys i installed postfixadmin and now try to install vacation plugin but i get always a email back mail return to sender  mail#domain at autoreply dot change-this-to-your.domain.tld ichanged the "our $vacation_domain" in vacation.pl but also dont work what can be the problem ???
[16:50:44] <Dominian> ask postfixadmin
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[17:37:21] <jiffe98> if I have multiple IPs, each with its own ssl cert, the best way to do this is to run separate smtpd's via master.cf bound to each IP with its cert files?
[17:38:26] <tharkun> !tell jiffe98 goal
[17:38:26] <knoba> jiffe98: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is
[17:39:10] <jiffe98> my goal is the first part of the sentence, to have multiple IPs running on the same machine with their own ssl certs
[17:42:06] <jiffe98> thats the solution I've seen doing a google search, but those threads seem to be dated so I'm not sure if there's a better way
[17:43:42] <tharkun> So back to the original question why do you want to have several ip's when postfix is perfectly capable of using a single one to achieve the same task?
[17:48:05] <lunaphyte_> no, that's not your goal.
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[17:48:14] <lunaphyte_> that is your perception of the solution to your goal.
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[17:49:26] <jiffe98> with different cert files?
[17:49:51] <jiffe98> how would I bind the cert files to the individual IPs?
[17:50:43] <patdk-wk> questions aren't goals either
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[17:51:35] <srg> jiffe98: You must conform exactly to the culture of this support channel or else you will be shunned :-| Asking questions are not allowed, you must only state your goals.
[17:51:51] * srg rolls eyes
[17:51:58] <patdk-wk> !tell srg goal
[17:51:59] <knoba> srg: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is
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[17:52:39] <lunaphyte_> sigh
[17:53:07] <lunaphyte_> jiffe1: smtp does not support sni.
[17:53:24] <lunaphyte_> [and thus postfix] - although it was recently discussed on the ml.
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[19:15:18] <Kre10s__> hello. I just installed postfix, and updated the config using one I had working on another server. When I /etc/init.d/postfix start it tells me its starting postfix, but I don't see any new process in ps -e... the files /etc/var/mail.* only show daemon started -- version 2.7.1, configuration /etc/postfix
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[19:18:13] <Kre10s__> oh. Its proxymapd...
[19:23:01] <Kre10s__> ok. So I can telnet to the server, but it does not show the initial 220 <host> ESMTP message
[19:24:08] <Kre10s__> how can I better test to see what is running and what not?
[19:27:34] <tharkun> nmap?
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[19:43:53] <lunaphyte_> !tell Kre10s__ welcome
[19:43:54] <knoba> Kre10s__: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
[19:48:37] <Kre10s__> I am trying to migrate my server. Basically I'm setting up postfix again on the new server. One thing I am doing differently is using pgsql instead of mysql. On the old server I can telnet port 25 and get postfixs greeting. On the New server with the same postfix.cf i get only the "Connected to" message nothing more.
[19:49:33] <lunaphyte_> yeah, we got that part.
[19:49:54] <Kre10s__> my iptables are the same for both servers, and the connected messages shows (me) I am getting through. just not making it to postfix.
[19:51:28] <Kre10s__> I'm not sure why postfix is not responding the same way/at all.
[19:52:20] <Kre10s__> the error logs don't have any messages.
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[21:44:08] <zeroC> does anyone have a good website for hardening of postfix?
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[21:48:56] <patdk-wk> hardening?
[21:49:52] <patdk-wk> normal setup practices?
[21:50:52] <patdk-wk> done enable vrfy and expn?
[21:50:57] <zeroC> patdk-wk: expn?
[21:51:00] <patdk-wk> and be an openrelay?
[21:51:20] <zeroC> should not be an openrelay, if i remember right i have tested that...
[21:51:42] <zeroC> patdk-wk: do you mean the sender ?
[21:51:49] <zeroC> (with verify)
[21:51:52] <patdk-wk> hmm?
[21:52:05] <patdk-wk> I mean your server should reject vrfy, if it's exposed to the internet
[21:52:49] <patdk-wk> http://cr.yp.to/smtp/vrfy.html
[21:53:28] <zeroC> doen
[21:53:28] <zeroC> :)
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[21:57:08] <zeroC> patdk-wk: what do you think about disable etrn?
[21:57:18] <zeroC> expn is seems to be not installed
[21:58:19] <patdk-wk> dunno, I have it disabled
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[21:59:21] <zeroC> oh ok.. :) thanks
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[23:02:25] <Kre10s__> he. turns out I spelled pgsql as psql...
[23:02:53] <Kre10s__> I'm surprised I didn't get any violent error messages.
[23:03:03] <Kre10s__> join #courier
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[23:06:12] <Kre10s__> I guess I'll just ask here. I can use telnet to do snmp, and have started the courier-imap deamon. I cannot get a mail client to connect, it simply takes forever, and times out. strangely netstat shows ipv6 addresses. could that be it? http://pastebin.com/JEZ6m4gv
[23:06:21] <defunct> hello, I am having trouble figuring out why PHP can't seem to change the From Name when sending via postfix. Could anyone suggest how I can further troubleshoot? thanks
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