June 4, 2012 
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June 4, 2012 [00:07:57] *** Kurt__ has joined #postfix[00:13:26] *** echelog has joined #postfix[00:14:26] *** Kurt__ has quit IRC[00:14:51] *** higuita has quit IRC[00:15:04] *** higuita has joined #postfix[00:23:26] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[00:25:19] *** e-anima has quit IRC[00:26:34] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[01:15:20] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:26:29] <srg> Hey guys[01:26:36] <srg> I'm trying to setup virutal users in postfix[01:26:48] <srg> I have the postgresql database created and it works when I test it with postmap[01:26:55] <srg> but I think I have an issue with intergrating maildrop into the mix[01:27:32] <srg> I read the MAILDROP_README, and followed the steps for Direct delivery without the local delivery agent[01:27:39] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[01:27:45] <srg> but it doesn't seem to be working, the logs say "invalid user specified"[01:29:59] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[01:47:44] *** elex111111 has quit IRC[01:52:44] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[01:56:58] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[02:02:39] *** Belial has joined #postfix[02:14:36] *** Belial has quit IRC[02:15:30] *** thoraxe has joined #postfix[02:21:51] <lunaphyte> !tell srg welcome[02:21:52] <knoba> srg: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[02:22:25] <lunaphyte> why are you trying to use maildrop?[02:25:38] *** thoraxe has quit IRC[02:26:54] <PatrickDK> cause people are freaking nuts[02:32:42] *** thoraxe has joined #postfix[02:32:55] <srg> because I used maildrop previously[02:33:11] <srg> I've had postfix working for system accounts for quite a while, and I use maildrop extensively for filtering[02:33:47] <srg> now I'm trying to setup virtual users as well. I'll try getting rid of maildrop. I'll look into dovecot-sieve[02:34:34] <lunaphyte> if you've got a good reason, that's fine. most people don't, so naturally, it is generally questioned without exception.[02:34:51] <lunaphyte> regadless, the channel /topic is where you'll need to start in order to get help here.[02:35:39] <srg> yeah, i'll get some information pastebin'ed. I just followed a guide and restarted my config from scratch, so lemme see if this works again[02:40:10] *** jkfod has quit IRC[02:42:29] <thoraxe> so i have some aliases set up, but the actual mail handling endpoint (zarafa) is showing that the message is TO: the original user (not the alias). Is this a postfix thing, or a zarafa thing?[02:47:53] *** thoraxe has left #postfix[02:47:55] *** thoraxe has joined #postfix[02:48:24] <thoraxe> did my last message come through? i'm having nasty connectivity issues[02:51:38] <srg> lunaphyte: http://pastebin.ca/2157920 I'm not using maildrop anymore, I still have queued mail with errors. Here's my postconf -n, maillog, and postqueue -p[02:52:39] <thoraxe> i think that postfix is taking the incoming mail for the alias and then actually re-addressing it to the real account?[02:57:09] <thoraxe> le sigh, and now i can't get into that machine. fun with comcast.[03:01:21] <jimpop> could this be a receive_override_options=no_address_mappings thing?[03:02:07] <thoraxe> jimpop: you talking to me?[03:03:15] <jimpop> i'm talking to everybody.[03:03:18] <jimpop> :-)[03:03:26] <jimpop> but mostly srg[03:03:30] <srg> ah[03:03:37] <jimpop> and those that are trying to help him/her[03:03:57] <srg> hm, that's for amavis[03:04:22] <rob0> "warning: pgsql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_alias_maps is unavailable. open /usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_alias_maps: Permission denied" looks significant[03:04:35] <jimpop> it's a postfix setting that can be used to prevent postfix from mapping addresses before moving mail to other components[03:05:02] <srg> rob0: ah, what user/group should that be to read? right now it's root:wheel 600[03:05:27] <srg> the postfix user?[03:06:17] <srg> ok, i got it[03:06:20] <srg> now a new error, yay[03:06:42] <srg> "mail system configuration error"[03:06:45] <thoraxe> srg: sounds like progress! :)[03:06:45] <rob0> "address resolver failure" is also significant[03:07:14] <srg> all this because my brother wanted a damn email address and I don't want to give him a unix account[03:07:27] <rob0> uh ... why not?[03:07:46] <rob0> you can prevent any means of login[03:08:02] <srg> I know, I use AllowUsers in sshd_config, but I like keeping /usr/home/ clean[03:08:23] <rob0> Looks like you're killing a mosquito with a missile[03:08:29] <srg> heh[03:09:22] <rob0> give him a unix account and be done. Or, conversely, use flat files in place of pgsql.[03:11:55] <srg> "warning: recipient srg at host dot net: bad uid 26 in virtual_uid_maps" uid 26 is listed in my passwd, it's the mailnull user, and it's the owner of my /usr/local/vmail dir[03:13:51] <PatrickDK> rob0, but when you use the missle[03:14:00] <PatrickDK> you know you got the mosquito, and his whole family :)[03:16:09] <srg> true, true[03:16:14] <srg> ok, i'm getting somewhere[03:16:25] <rob0> !virtual_minimum_uid[03:16:25] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_minimum_uid" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The minimum user ID value that the virtual(8) delivery agent accpets as a result from $virtual_uid_maps table lookup. Returned values less than this will be rejected, and the message will be deferred.[03:18:47] <srg> yeah, I changed that to 26 from 100 (i dunno why the tutorial I followed had 100 in there, but 26 for the uid_maps)[03:19:20] <rob0> looks like a clueless tutorial, then.[03:20:00] * PatrickDK wonders why people bother to follow tutorials line by line[03:20:17] <PatrickDK> that only works is a very very limited set of cases[03:20:39] <srg> Ok, I got some mail delievered, but I have one last problem, then #Postfix will be rid of me forever. Postmaster at host dot net says invalid user. PostfixAdmin created standard aliases for postmaster at host dot net, abuse at host dot net, etc addresses. Now, I assume I would need to forward these to the unix-account postmaster? or what is the general suggestion for that?[03:21:06] <srg> well the tutorial was for my exact setup, freebsd, postfix, pgsql, virtual users, clamav, amavis, spamassassin, spamd, etc[03:21:13] <srg> but it may have been outdated, I imagine[03:21:32] <srg> should I forward them to my regular virtual user account?[03:21:38] <lunaphyte> tutorial? haha[03:21:48] <srg> guide, tutorial, whatever :-P[03:22:00] <lunaphyte> all synonyms for garbage[03:22:13] <lunaphyte> clueless people write tutorials.[03:22:20] <srg> I spent more time on the postfix.org docs, if it makes me look any better :-P[03:22:32] <srg> the tutorial messed me up, as you can see[03:22:43] <lunaphyte> if you're lucky, you learn that quickly. if you're not, you become like them.[03:22:50] <lunaphyte> indeed[03:22:57] <lunaphyte> !tutorial[03:22:57] <knoba> lunaphyte: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[03:23:09] <thoraxe> hmm looks like postfix is doing its job but zarafa is doing something stupid[03:29:28] <lunaphyte> srg: whatever your preference is. in one way or another, if you are the mail admin ,then should end up in your inbox. however that happens is largely a matter of personal taste.[03:29:40] <srg> alright, thanks[03:29:56] <lunaphyte> *they should[03:44:56] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[03:59:45] *** Belial has joined #postfix[04:13:18] *** Belial has quit IRC[04:15:07] *** tona has joined #postfix[04:15:14] <tona> hello guys[04:15:44] <tona> one simple question i can not send email to hotmail or live accoutnt which is the porcess to hotmail accept my emails again[04:19:00] <tona> can someone help me[04:22:39] <lunaphyte> !tell tona ask[04:22:39] <knoba> tona: "ask" : Please regard http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc and don't ask to ask, just ask. (after you've read 'getting help')[04:22:43] <lunaphyte> oop[04:22:44] <lunaphyte> oops[04:22:47] <lunaphyte> that's the wrong one[04:22:50] <lunaphyte> oh[04:22:55] <lunaphyte> !tell tona dam[04:22:55] <knoba> tona: "dam" : don't ask me why someone else's server isn't accepting your mail. if your hotel key card wasn't letting you into your room, would you go around asking other guests why? if you can't figure out who you should ask, then see the !duh factoid[04:28:38] *** Facefox has quit IRC[04:28:42] * PatrickDK would just kick the door in[04:35:28] *** Facefox has joined #postfix[04:37:10] *** freezey has joined #postfix[04:44:01] *** phantomcircuit has joined #postfix[04:44:07] <phantomcircuit> so this is weird[04:44:13] <phantomcircuit> connect to postfix on port 25[04:44:17] <phantomcircuit> nothing happens[04:44:23] <phantomcircuit> HELO localhost\r\n[04:44:27] <phantomcircuit> no response[04:44:29] <phantomcircuit> nothing in logs either[04:46:17] <rob0> !nologs[04:46:17] <knoba> rob0: "nologs" : Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[04:47:07] <phantomcircuit> syslog shows postfix starting[04:47:13] <phantomcircuit> and i checked with tcpdump[04:47:34] <phantomcircuit> HELO localhost\r\n to master on 25[04:47:39] <phantomcircuit> no response nothing in logs[04:49:13] <PatrickDK> logs?[04:49:25] <PatrickDK> if postfix started it would be in logs, if postfix didn't start, it woudl be in logs[04:49:28] <PatrickDK> so post your logs[04:49:29] <PatrickDK> !logs[04:49:29] <knoba> PatrickDK: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. You can usually find them with ls /var/log/mail* otherwise something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /path/to/syslog_config_file should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung[04:50:02] <PatrickDK> your turn, rob0[04:51:10] <phantomcircuit> syslog_facility is mail[04:51:42] <phantomcircuit> which is going to /var/log/mail.log[04:53:37] <phantomcircuit> ah i got it[04:53:43] <phantomcircuit> alisases db is missing[04:54:32] <rob0> so not weird at all[04:55:02] <phantomcircuit> no entry in mail.log about it[04:55:03] <phantomcircuit> just[04:55:09] <phantomcircuit> master exited unsuccessfully[04:55:10] <phantomcircuit> :/[04:58:12] *** tona has quit IRC[05:04:38] *** Marf has joined #postfix[05:06:16] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:09:21] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[05:14:34] *** freezey has quit IRC[05:24:41] <jimpop> postaliases /etc/postfix/aliases[05:38:34] *** elex111111 has joined #postfix[05:42:13] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[06:08:04] *** elex111111 has quit IRC[06:09:02] *** trentg has quit IRC[06:09:02] *** trentg has joined #postfix[06:10:02] *** freezey has joined #postfix[06:15:35] *** tompson has joined #postfix[06:16:31] <tompson> Hello friends! I got the following error code when trying to send to hotmail[06:16:32] <tompson> 550 SC-001[06:17:03] <tompson> how I should proceed[06:17:04] *** Marf has quit IRC[06:27:12] *** chadmaynard has joined #postfix[06:30:56] *** Bry8Star has joined #postfix[06:32:48] *** doc|mobile has joined #postfix[06:32:55] <doc|mobile> !debug[06:32:55] <knoba> doc|mobile: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post information including NON-verbose logs in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[06:36:26] *** freezey has quit IRC[06:38:17] <doc|mobile> hey, I've setup postfix with mysql on centos. In my logs I'm getting "warning: do not list domain DOMAINREMOVED.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains". I've grepped all the /etc/postfix files and it's not set anywhere. Anyone got any suggestions?[06:38:35] <doc|mobile> where it's = mydestination[06:48:18] *** scientes has quit IRC[06:53:17] <doc|mobile> I am getting: postconf -d | grep mydestination[06:53:17] <doc|mobile> mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost[06:53:36] <doc|mobile> which is strange because I've even tried explicitly setting that to localhost in main.cf[06:57:13] *** phantomcircuit has left #postfix[07:01:17] *** scientes has joined #postfix[07:02:42] <Corey> rob0: What OS would you say makes the best Postfix reference platform?[07:03:01] <Corey> (The debian chroot approach makes me conclude that Ubuntu/Debian are likely NOT it)[07:04:31] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[07:05:47] <pj> Corey: every OS I've seen has it's own stupidities. Pick the one you work with best and use it because you will be better positioned to deal with the stupidities on that platform.[07:05:52] <pj> for me it's CentOS.[07:06:25] <Corey> pj: Unfortunately I've been doing the consulting dance for the last few years, which means that between Debian and RHEL, it's "flip a coin."[07:06:49] <Corey> rob0 is a big slack/slam fan last I checked[07:06:59] <doc|mobile> ugh, I've tried changing main.cf to remove mydestination values and they're not reflected in postconf -d, anyone got any ideas why?[07:07:11] <pj> yep, well with debian you have the chroot mess which is actually not hard to deal with, just edit master.cf and change the chroot entries, or work with the chroot properly...[07:07:19] <Corey> doc|mobile: Sure! Check postconf -n.[07:07:34] <Corey> doc|mobile: -d is "default," so nothing short of code changes will alter them. :-)[07:07:42] <doc|mobile> bwahaha[07:07:43] <doc|mobile> doh[07:07:47] * doc|mobile noob[07:07:48] <pj> with RHEL/ CentOS you have to deal with old versions of everything, and I generally rebuild the postfix package with the latest version of postfix for that.[07:08:03] <Corey> doc|mobile: Yeah, everyone gets the occasional "I feel like a moron" moment, this may be yours. :-)[07:08:15] <doc|mobile> moron != noob :( ;)[07:08:34] <Corey> Tomato, tomahto...[07:08:36] <doc|mobile> ok, postconf -n doesn't show mydestination at all[07:08:50] <Corey> Then it's set to the defaut value. Have you restarted postfix?[07:08:51] <doc|mobile> should be ok, provided I can find out how to flush email delivery[07:08:52] <pj> doc|mobile: man postconf[07:08:57] <doc|mobile> Corey: I have[07:09:03] <Corey> doc|mobile: "flush email delivery?"[07:09:15] <jimpop> i think mydestination defaults to hostname.tld... so just set mydestination=blah in main.cf[07:09:20] <doc|mobile> Corey: it's on incoming email it's getting lost[07:09:23] <doc|mobile> literally blah?[07:09:33] <jimpop> or localhost.localdomain[07:09:48] <Corey> jimpop: You're not the authoritative source for "blah?"[07:09:52] <jimpop> lol[07:10:00] <doc|mobile> I have it as localhost.$mydomain right now[07:10:04] <doc|mobile> will try .localdomain[07:10:18] <jimpop> it just can't be anything that is in virtual[07:10:19] <doc|mobile> now, how can I attempt redelivery?[07:10:33] <Corey> doc|mobile: Redlivery inbound?[07:10:33] <jimpop> from where?[07:10:37] <Corey> Or redelivery, even.[07:10:39] <doc|mobile> Corey: yep[07:10:46] <doc|mobile> they hit the server but I got the error message[07:10:53] <Corey> doc|mobile: Uh... how do you envision being able to trigger that?[07:10:59] <doc|mobile> "warning: do not list domain DOMAINREMOVED.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains"[07:11:11] <doc|mobile> Corey: I thought they'd be queued locally. Is that wrong?[07:11:16] <Corey> It is.[07:11:20] <doc|mobile> ah, ok, thanks[07:11:31] <Corey> Unless..[07:11:37] <Corey> Does mailq show them?[07:13:07] <doc|mobile> says its empty, but when I try to send a new email to the address it adds to the logs a number of emails that failed before[07:13:18] <doc|mobile> I just thought it was attempting redelivery of all of them[07:14:03] * doc|mobile postsuper -d ALLs them[07:14:45] <doc|mobile> and no effect[07:14:47] * doc|mobile sighs[07:16:14] <doc|mobile> damn it, now it's ignoring the virtual domains from the db[07:20:54] <doc|mobile> ugh[07:20:57] * doc|mobile goes for a walk[07:28:37] *** Bry8Star_ has joined #postfix[07:29:28] *** Bry8Star has quit IRC[07:29:34] *** Bry8Star_ is now known as Bry8Star[07:39:24] <tompson> Hello friends! I got the following error code when trying to send to hotmail[07:39:26] <tompson> 550 SC-001[07:39:32] <tompson> how I should proceed[07:39:38] <jimpop> google?[07:40:37] <jimpop> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hotmail+550+SC-001[07:46:33] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[07:46:54] *** trentg has quit IRC[07:48:18] *** trentg has joined #postfix[07:48:21] <Corey> jimpop: Oh that's not nice. :-)[07:49:06] <Corey> I seem to have a chrooted postfix environment that can't make DNS queries.[07:49:59] <Corey> Yet var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf exists and is sane.[07:50:50] <Corey> tompson: Send a test message to jimpop at amazingrapist dot com[07:51:53] <tompson> [Corey]: I did some test to gmail / yahoo and everything is normal[07:52:28] <tompson> only hotmail that is bugging me[07:53:37] <Corey> tompson: Would you like me to guess, or would you prefer hard data? :-)[07:54:29] <tompson> well ... any help is welcome[07:54:51] <tompson> volunteers are not employees[07:54:53] <tompson> ^^[07:55:16] <tompson> feel free to help you feel comfortable[07:56:52] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[08:06:43] *** scientes has quit IRC[08:08:12] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[08:08:16] *** bhagat_ has joined #postfix[08:09:48] <tompson> well .. what I'm reading I have to contact microsoft support[08:10:11] <tompson> if someone has another solution I am very grateful[08:13:13] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[08:16:03] <jimpop> Corey: lol[08:17:50] *** bhagat_ has quit IRC[08:18:28] *** bhagat has quit IRC[08:19:24] *** scientes has joined #postfix[08:19:45] <tompson> iptables -D INPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP[08:19:45] <tompson> iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?).[08:21:47] <jimpop> ?[08:22:57] <tompson> how do I solve this problem with hotmail[08:23:01] <tompson> jimpop[08:24:19] <jimpop> tompson: by following Microsoft's directions on their postmaster page[08:25:28] *** internat has quit IRC[08:25:38] <tompson> [jimpop]: I think not ... there must be an easier way to wait 300 days for a response[08:25:44] <jimpop> ok[08:27:39] <jimpop> their instructions are very very clear on what it takes to deliver email to them. Their servers, their rules.[08:27:57] *** internat has joined #postfix[08:30:18] <tompson> mm[08:30:21] <tompson> ok[08:34:57] <tompson> jimpop[08:35:03] <tompson> one more question .. I'm having trouble sending mail to other servers normally. detail: port 25 is closed. I need to open port 25 or leave as is?[08:35:46] <jimpop> you only need to open port 25 in order to receive email[08:36:11] <tompson> send no[08:38:59] *** laner has joined #postfix[08:41:13] <jimpop> tompson: one thing.... if you are sending email that is being rejected (bounced back), then you will need to make sure you accept them. Too many ignored bounces can get you blocked by many sites.[08:42:14] <tompson> [jimpop]: ok[08:42:43] <tompson> telnet> open hotmail.com 25[08:42:43] <tompson> Trying 65.55.72.135...[08:42:44] <tompson> telnet: connect to address 65.55.72.135: Connection timed out[08:42:59] *** doc|mobile has quit IRC[08:43:03] <jimpop> dig mx hotmail.com[08:43:15] <jimpop> then telnet to one of hotmail's MX's[08:43:21] <tompson> I can not connect to them[08:44:42] <tompson> ANSWER SECTION:[08:44:43] <tompson> hotmail.com. 3600 IN MX 5 mx3.hotmail.com.[08:44:43] <tompson> hotmail.com. 3600 IN MX 5 mx4.hotmail.com.[08:44:43] <tompson> hotmail.com. 3600 IN MX 5 mx1.hotmail.com.[08:44:51] <tompson> for dig mx hotmail.com[08:44:59] <jimpop> could be a firewall issue[08:45:04] <pj> tompson: you have been told several times in the past, USE A PASTEBIN!!!![08:45:28] <tompson> [pj]: ;/[08:45:31] <tompson> sorry[08:46:05] <tompson> want to see the iptable[08:46:09] <tompson> jimpop[08:46:13] <pj> as for you r port 25 issue, that's either (1) an issue with your firewall or (2) your ISP is blocking port 25, several of them do.[08:46:27] <pj> or (3) you're trying to connect to the wrong server./[08:46:40] <pj> ...because you don't understand how DNS works with email.[08:47:06] <tompson> ok[08:47:56] <pj> judging from what you said just now, the answer is C, the host at hotmail.com does not listen on port 25.[08:48:02] <tompson> this is my iptable[08:48:03] <tompson> http://pastebin.com/6vDPrJLi[08:48:42] <tompson> where I open the door 25[08:49:10] <jimpop> lol[08:49:28] <jimpop> you just pasted the contents of /etc/init.d/iptables[08:49:36] <jimpop> !congrats[08:49:36] <knoba> jimpop: "congrats" : Congratulations! You have a postfix problem. There are lots of people in this channel who would love to help you but in order to provide you anything better than a guess please take the output of postconf -n and some !relevant_logs and !paste them into a pastebin. Once you have done this then someone will be available to help you shortly.[08:49:36] <pj> you have copied and pasted your iptables init.d script, sheesh[08:49:57] <pj> jimpop: I think the appropriate factiod for him is !why[08:50:04] <pj> !tell tompson why[08:50:04] <knoba> tompson: "why" : are you sure that installing, configuring and maintaining a mailserver is really what you want to do here? it's not something that's for the faint of heart, and definitely not something for folks that are still just learning the basics of linux or unix. also see !nullclient[08:50:11] <jimpop> yes[08:50:28] <pj> but then I told him that days ago and he still persists.[08:52:19] <tompson> well, I do not think this is a good way to treat people pj, I think you should not treat people well[08:52:20] <tompson> if you can not help not to say that they are unable[08:52:46] <pj> tompson: you can't help someone who is beyond help.[08:53:06] <tompson> [pj]: if after all I am doing very well without his help several days[08:53:57] <pj> tompson: you continue to prove your lack of unix knowedge every time you ask a question in here, and we are not here to tutor you in unix basics.[08:54:00] <tompson> [pj]: if I had given up when you send me the one day or two ago, I would not be sending e-mail now[08:54:17] <pj> this channel is for postfix help.[08:54:46] <pj> and what makes you think that the fact that you can now send email is a good thing?[08:54:52] <tompson> therefore if you persist in throwing myself backwards I'll have to ignore it[08:56:03] <pj> tompson: go, and make an effort to learn unix basics, when you can show that you have some basics down about how unix and Linux works in general then I will be much more tolerant.[08:56:35] <tompson> [03:53:56] <pj> tompson: you continue to prove your lack of unix knowedge every time you ask a question in here, and we are not here to tutor you in unix basics.[08:56:36] <jimpop> no students allowed in the teacher's lounge....[08:56:39] <tompson> you speak for everyone now[08:56:58] <tompson> I do not know you were a leader here[08:57:01] <tompson> sorry[08:57:58] <pj> well, ok, is there anyone in this channel (other than tompson) who disagrees?[08:58:08] <pj> by all means speak up if you do[08:58:18] <pj> I'm sure tompson would love to hear it.[08:58:53] <jimpop> the Aye's have it[08:59:25] <pj> hehehe[08:59:39] <tompson> [pj]: I think I can open that door without your help[08:59:41] <tompson> so let's not make it something amazing[09:00:00] <tompson> is only one port[09:00:03] <tompson> ^^[09:00:23] <pj> tompson: I'm not trying to hold you back, I'm just telling you that you have to learn to walk before you can run.[09:01:11] <tompson> I was born and I dress fired[09:01:14] <Corey> tompson: Yeah, your firewall misconfiguration isn't a postfix problem.[09:01:21] <Corey> Until then you're off topic here, really.[09:01:28] <tompson> [Corey]: is the natural order of things[09:01:49] <jimpop> "I was born and I dress fired" WHAT?!?[09:01:59] <Corey> tompson: Delightful? The point is you're off in the weeds.[09:02:13] *** scientes has quit IRC[09:02:46] <tompson> [Corey]: ok[09:03:03] <tompson> let's go back to the topic[09:14:47] *** scientes has joined #postfix[09:20:44] *** laner has quit IRC[09:24:07] *** Soehnke has joined #postfix[09:31:22] *** laner has joined #postfix[09:34:55] *** laner has quit IRC[09:38:58] *** laner has joined #postfix[09:39:32] *** laner has quit IRC[09:44:16] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[09:44:33] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[09:48:18] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[09:48:48] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[09:50:02] *** laner has joined #postfix[09:52:13] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[09:53:11] *** laner has quit IRC[09:56:02] *** nuomi has joined #postfix[09:58:14] *** scientes has quit IRC[10:00:59] *** Marf has joined #postfix[10:03:06] *** laner has joined #postfix[10:05:54] *** street has joined #postfix[10:07:30] *** laner has quit IRC[10:20:56] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[10:23:11] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[10:23:24] <tompson> pj[10:23:37] <tompson> fatal: unknown inet_protocols value "mail.rush.com" in "all?[10:24:45] <pj> tompson: what does "postconf inet_protocols" say?[10:25:52] <tompson> [pj]: pj guy please[10:25:54] <tompson> not the most complicated thing for me just help me[10:26:14] <tompson> this value is unknown[10:26:57] <tompson> where I should point[10:27:01] <tompson> main.cf[10:27:33] <pj> tompson: type in the command: postconf inet_protocols[10:27:37] <pj> and tell me what it says.[10:27:43] <pj> sheesh[10:28:46] <tompson> [pj]: # postconf inet_protocols[10:28:47] <tompson> mail.$mydomain, www.$mydomain, ftp.$mydomain, rush.net[10:29:30] <pj> oh wow, yep, you'vemessed that settin gup completely[10:29:46] <pj> !tell tompson inet_protocols[10:29:47] <knoba> tompson: "inet_protocols" : The Internet protocols Postfix will attempt to use when making or accepting connections. Specify one or more of ipv4 or ipv6 , separated by whitespace or commas. The form all is equivalent to ipv4, ipv6 or ipv4 , depending on whether the operating system implements IPv6.[10:31:10] <tompson> [pj]: I have to do[10:31:26] <tompson> mail.rush.com[10:31:29] <tompson> so[10:31:51] <pj> no, read that factoid, or better yet read the documentation.[10:32:23] <pj> you can't just put random stuff into random settings and expect it to work.[10:33:04] <jimpop> ...and for such an important musical group[10:33:33] <tompson> is the only way to learn something here .. mistakes and successes.[10:33:54] <pj> actually, reading the documentation works pretty well.[10:34:26] <jimpop> imagine if Geddy Lee never read the music or learned how to play[10:34:47] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[10:35:27] <pj> imagine someone wanting to run out and play to a packed stadium without ever having picked up a musical instrument.[10:35:37] <jimpop> yep[10:38:24] <jimpop> and why is there a * next to Nov-1 (*Nov-1) for the Atlanta concert?[10:40:03] <tompson> ]# postconf inet_protocols[10:40:04] <tompson> inet_protocols = all[10:40:08] <tompson> solved[10:41:21] *** street has quit IRC[10:42:00] <pj> maybe, do you know what that actually means?[10:42:19] *** laner has joined #postfix[10:42:49] <pj> you may have made the error go away, but do you understand what you really did?[10:42:50] <pj> brb[10:44:36] *** TMcTrain has joined #postfix[10:46:51] *** KippiX has joined #postfix[10:46:52] *** laner has quit IRC[10:50:07] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[11:02:32] <tompson> ~]# echo OI |mail -s Assunto luanna-g at bol dot com.br[11:02:36] <tompson> do not get the message and also I'm not even an error log[11:02:49] <tompson> bol.com.br[11:02:53] <tompson> uol.com.br[11:02:54] <tompson> o.o[11:04:53] *** nuomi has quit IRC[11:05:01] *** grossing has quit IRC[11:05:52] <tompson> ^^[11:05:57] <tompson> solved[11:05:59] <tompson> lol[11:16:20] <fr00d> Hello[11:16:54] <fr00d> I'd like to forward an email to another mail address and save the mail locally. What do I need for that?[11:17:36] <fr00d> I can use virtual_alias_maps, but then the mail does not get saved via my local delivery agent.[11:46:35] *** Soehnke has quit IRC[11:51:44] <tuxick> postfix is supposed to log message size exceeding limit, no?[11:52:10] <tuxick> go another "someone tries to mail me and he gets some message back"[11:53:45] * tuxick hates stupid users[11:57:33] *** laner has joined #postfix[12:02:07] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:04:32] *** zorg1 has joined #postfix[12:05:00] <sep> fr00d, i use a alias, that points to 2 addresses. one beeing the local account, the other is the remote account,[12:08:38] *** niklaswe has quit IRC[12:09:17] *** tgs3 has joined #postfix[12:10:59] *** mi has joined #postfix[12:18:19] *** GieltjE has joined #postfix[12:45:10] <pj> tuxick: postfix logs everything related to postfix, so if it's a postfix limit that is exceeded then it should be logged.[12:49:38] <fr00d> sep: But then you need to send the mail to a at domain dot tld and use imap or pop with b at domain dot tld, right?[12:50:53] *** Facefox has quit IRC[12:51:56] *** Facefox has joined #postfix[12:53:35] *** matt1982 has joined #postfix[13:10:34] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[13:14:12] *** chadmaynard has quit IRC[13:41:49] *** noop has quit IRC[13:43:26] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[13:44:32] *** laner has quit IRC[13:53:27] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[13:56:46] *** janfrode has joined #postfix[13:57:23] *** dreet_ has quit IRC[13:58:17] <janfrode> I have this alias_maps and recipient_restrictions.. http://fpaste.org/CRCy/ Can anybody spot why the sender is looked up in the virtual_alias_maps at rcpt to ?[13:58:42] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[13:59:30] <lunaphyte_> !tell janfrode welcome[13:59:31] <knoba> janfrode: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[14:00:48] <janfrode> sorry, postconf -n > http://fpaste.org/LC4s/[14:01:58] <rob0> virtual_alias_maps is applied always, to all addresses, recursively.[14:02:03] <rob0> !virtual_alias_maps[14:02:03] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_alias_maps" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[14:02:19] <rob0> see postconf.5.html#virtual_alias_maps[14:03:24] *** noop has joined #postfix[14:03:44] <rob0> First the address is looked up, then any result[s] is[are] looked up, until the recursion limit is reached or no result is found.[14:05:05] <janfrode> ok, it just seemed strange that it would happen in smtpd_recipient_restrictions instead of on smtpd_sender_restrictions..[14:05:13] <lunaphyte_> hey, i tried to improve the documentation for that ;)[14:18:08] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[14:24:11] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[14:31:16] *** tompson has quit IRC[14:35:37] <rob0> um, any address-based restrictions are applied to the original envelope address, not to rewritten results.[14:43:05] *** Coiby has joined #postfix[14:44:04] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[14:44:22] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:44:23] <Coiby> Hi, I find this in the log: "max connection rate 1 60s for postfix". It seems gmail is send emails to my server too fast. How can I fix this problem.[14:45:55] <sep> Coiby, perhaps tweaking the values in http://www.postfix.org/TUNING_README.html might help[14:47:16] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[14:48:13] *** sfergut has joined #postfix[14:48:26] <Coiby> sep: Thanks! I've read this and think "smtpd_client_message_rate_limit" may be parameter. But it's default value is "no limit"(I haven't changed it).[14:48:32] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:49:57] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[14:50:54] <sfergut> hello .. how would a hash file(not the actual has file but the txt file contents) for virtual_alias_domains would look like ? domain.com \n domain1.com etc ??[14:51:24] <lunaphyte_> sfergut: man 5 virtual[14:51:53] <sfergut> lunaphyte_: i did that already but i dont see no examples .. cant understand the logic[14:52:16] <lunaphyte_> there's also all of the other virtual related documentation to go along with that.[14:52:38] <lunaphyte_> but if, after having read that documentation, you're having trouble, then see the channel /topic for help.[14:52:49] <lunaphyte_> [or specifically, what to do to get help][14:54:04] <sfergut> i have virtual_alias_maps set fine as office at example dot com user at remote dot com .. but i need to also add virtual_alias_domains for it to work[14:55:05] <sfergut> i saw by default virtual_alias_domains = $virtual_alias_maps .. but i have loop back errors(meaning my domain is not allowed to receive email)[14:55:25] <sfergut> so how an hash for virtual_alias_domains will look like[14:55:28] <lunaphyte_> !tell sfergut welcome[14:55:28] <knoba> sfergut: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[14:56:03] <sfergut> give me an example for virtual_alias_domain[14:56:10] <lunaphyte_> no[14:56:11] <sfergut> hash type not file[14:56:13] <lunaphyte_> read the documentation[14:57:09] <sfergut> i read it dont see only samples for virtual_alias_maps where ant waht line are for virtual_alias_domains[14:58:23] <sfergut> wich line on man 5 virtual is for virtual_alias_domains ... i see only virtual_alias_maps options[15:01:21] <sfergut> " virtual-alias.domain anything (right-hand content does not matter) " ?[15:01:41] <sfergut> meaning i can write "localdomain.com abc" ?[15:07:02] *** Section1 has quit IRC[15:10:00] *** cali has quit IRC[15:10:56] *** Fluor has joined #postfix[15:12:47] <Fluor> Ohai. I would like postfix to just accept any envelope-from and/or header-from i feed it. Can i completely disable any of that header rewriting? I found 'sender_canonical_classes' but it does not seem to accept no options instead.[15:20:42] <rob0> If you mean invalid/broken envelope or headers, no, I don't think so.[15:22:11] <Fluor> Not invalid nor broken. I want the mails to 'appear' to come from user at $validdomain dot tld, not www-data@$fqdn_of_server.[15:22:26] <Fluor> So bounces go to user at validdomain dot tld, not www-data@fqdn_of_server.[15:22:40] *** mambaw has quit IRC[15:22:49] <rob0> you might need to have a look at "man sendmail"[15:23:03] <rob0> specifically "-r"[15:23:47] <rob0> Just a WAG that your question asked is quite far from the actual problem.[15:24:22] *** JoeBlue has joined #postfix[15:25:03] <rob0> see also:[15:25:05] <rob0> !basic[15:25:05] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[15:25:09] <rob0> !myorigin[15:25:10] <knoba> rob0: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.[15:25:28] <JoeBlue> is there any possibility to limit sent mails from an sender?[15:25:56] <rob0> Joe, define "sender". Generally not any native means, no.[15:26:23] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[15:26:37] *** nb has quit IRC[15:27:08] <rob0> Typically you could use a policy service or milter to do that.[15:27:11] *** laner has joined #postfix[15:27:13] <rob0> !postfwd[15:27:13] <knoba> rob0: "postfwd" : http://postfwd.org/ : A Postfix policy daemon to combine complex restrictions in a ruleset. See also http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html[15:27:17] <rob0> !policyd[15:27:18] <knoba> rob0: "policyd" : (#1) http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon, or (#2) . It also can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by postfix directly[15:27:32] <JoeBlue> one of my user has a too simple pwd and someone sent over 1000k mails in 3-4 hours. how can i prevent that?[15:27:34] *** robinho86 has joined #postfix[15:27:41] <rob0> heh :)[15:28:28] <rob0> As it happens, I am giving a presentation on that very issue this week at SELF in Charlotte, North Carolina, USA.[15:29:03] <rob0> you'll also want content filtering on your submission stream.[15:29:42] <patdk-wk> cc all viagra emails to all users[15:30:14] <patdk-wk> installing a rate limiting policy daemon is also nice[15:31:08] *** nb has joined #postfix[15:35:30] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[15:36:57] *** mrx234 has joined #postfix[15:37:03] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[15:37:48] *** paul831 has joined #postfix[15:38:08] *** paul831 has left #postfix[15:52:43] *** mroe has joined #postfix[15:52:43] *** mroe has joined #postfix[15:55:45] <sfergut> i have http://pastebin.com/pcebUYHw why it says "User unknown in virtual alias table" if is there ?[16:02:43] *** grossing has joined #postfix[16:03:53] <tuxick> forgot to rehash?[16:05:43] <sfergut> no i postmap again ..i even delete /etc/postfix/virtual.db and postmap again[16:09:43] *** Fluor has left #postfix[16:13:49] *** Shuro has joined #postfix[16:17:36] *** Shuro has left #postfix[16:19:18] <tuxick> then it's looking elsewhere[16:19:22] <tuxick> or typo :)[16:20:16] <sfergut> i did cat -e and more i tried to enable deb_peer_list=127.0.0.1 and smtpd -v to see if is looking somewhere but i see the same errors only[16:21:20] <sfergut> s/deb_/debug_[16:22:37] <rob0> You surely do not need verbose logs.[16:24:01] <sfergut> then what is the problem i want to see exactly line by line what is doing[16:24:36] <sfergut> postmap -q office at localdomain dot com hash:/etc/postfix/virtual .. is ok it says someuser at gmail dot com[16:25:35] <rob0> oh.[16:25:42] <rob0> !unknown_virtual[16:25:43] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)[16:26:08] *** madduck has quit IRC[16:26:32] <rob0> In the case of virtual alias table, it might mean that the address does not resolve to an address which is not in virtual_alias_domains.[16:27:16] <rob0> If you have gmail.com in your virtual_alias_domains, YDIW.[16:29:20] <sfergut> i have only what is pasted .. virtual_alias_domains = $virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual[16:30:04] <sfergut> and virtual is only that 2 lines for now[16:33:06] *** madduck has joined #postfix[16:40:42] *** weedar has quit IRC[16:55:19] *** mi has quit IRC[16:55:26] *** freezey has joined #postfix[16:58:40] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:04:06] <sfergut> rob0: pff i found out the problem, i had enabled receive_override_options = no_address_mappings[17:04:24] <sfergut> and that disable alias mappings[17:04:52] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[17:05:20] *** tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[17:05:23] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[17:17:31] *** JoeBlue has quit IRC[17:17:48] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[17:27:53] *** wdp has quit IRC[17:29:58] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC[17:30:48] *** tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:47:04] *** shoonya has joined #postfix[17:48:53] <tharkun> !sieve[17:48:53] <knoba> tharkun: "sieve" : sieve is a language that can be used to create filters for email. see http://sieve.info/ , rfc 5228, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language) for more info[17:49:17] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[17:49:37] *** zorg1 has quit IRC[17:59:34] *** GieltjE has quit IRC[18:02:19] *** laner has quit IRC[18:03:17] *** Corey has quit IRC[18:03:17] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[18:03:38] *** laner has joined #postfix[18:04:04] *** KippiX has quit IRC[18:04:18] *** KippiX has joined #postfix[18:04:53] *** sfergut has left #postfix[18:07:45] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[18:07:45] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[18:07:45] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[18:07:45] *** Coiby has quit IRC[18:07:45] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[18:07:45] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[18:08:00] *** cite_ has quit IRC[18:08:21] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[18:08:30] *** Corey has joined #postfix[18:08:30] *** Corey is now known as 45PAANW6S[18:08:58] *** cite has joined #postfix[18:14:46] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[18:16:48] *** newbie has joined #postfix[18:17:12] *** newbie is now known as Guest26239[18:18:57] *** roe_ has joined #postfix[18:18:58] *** roe_ has joined #postfix[18:18:59] *** 45PAANW6S is now known as Corey[18:20:14] *** TMcTrain has quit IRC[18:20:14] *** mroe has quit IRC[18:21:06] *** jkfod has quit IRC[18:21:06] *** Section1 has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** matt1982 has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** Mp5shooter has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** Mazon has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** Kurt_ has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** ubsrv has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** jonez has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** kaos01_ has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** Driver has quit IRC[18:21:07] *** xcrracer has quit IRC[18:21:08] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[18:21:08] *** JPT has quit IRC[18:24:38] *** grefter has quit IRC[18:25:28] *** grefter has joined #postfix[18:26:05] *** cite has quit IRC[18:26:47] *** cite has joined #postfix[18:28:00] *** Coiby has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** jkfod has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** matt1982 has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Steve_The_Pirate has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Mp5shooter has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Mazon has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Kurt_ has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** ubsrv has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** jonez has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** kaos01_ has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** Driver has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** xcrracer has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[18:31:49] *** JPT has joined #postfix[18:32:45] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[18:32:45] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[18:35:58] *** Guest26239 has quit IRC[18:36:18] <srg> I have a virtual users setup using maildir's. What's the best way to setup automatic filtering into folders? The software I use to access it is squirremail and dovecot.[18:36:45] <patdk-wk> best way? dovecot :)[18:37:00] <srg> alright....using the sieve stuff with dovecot?[18:37:10] <patdk-wk> yep, so outside the postfix scope though[18:37:12] <srg> previously I used maildrop when I used unix accounts[18:37:14] <srg> yeah, I understand that[18:37:25] <srg> i figure postfix is the glue for it all, so I'd ask here[18:37:26] <srg> thanks[18:37:34] *** scientes has joined #postfix[18:41:47] <tuxick> dovecot/sieve indeed[18:42:14] <tuxick> squirrelmail offers a reasonable interface for sieve[18:42:27] <Dominian> dovecot 2.x offers a nice sieve offering.[18:42:30] <Dominian> built in[18:42:41] <Dominian> I use roundcube for webmail which also has a nice plugin for sieve filtering[18:42:53] <tuxick> in fact i even have users who managed to actually use it ;p[18:43:22] <tuxick> new server i'm building will provide both sm and roundcube[18:43:44] <tuxick> and assp for filtering[18:43:52] <Dominian> I offer one and only one. Not going to support multiple interfaces.[18:44:49] <tuxick> well they're used to sm[18:45:00] <tuxick> so that bit's ok[18:46:21] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[18:49:09] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[19:03:33] *** roe_ has quit IRC[19:10:48] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[19:12:12] *** shoonya has quit IRC[19:14:07] <phantasm66> is there a trivial way to force the postfix 'smtp' process to log the "from=<address at tld dot com>" (typically logged by the qmgr) on the same line as the "status=(sent|deferred|bounced|expired)" and "to=<address at tld dot com>" in a mail log?[19:21:05] <patdk-wk> phantasm66, heh?[19:21:10] <patdk-wk> it always logs the from[19:21:22] <patdk-wk> oh, smtp, hmm[19:21:33] <patdk-wk> from isn't interesting for the smtp process[19:23:49] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[19:25:02] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[19:25:51] <phantasm66> i tried using the smtp_header_checks and doing /^From:/ INFO[19:26:12] <phantasm66> and that just logs "another" smtp log line with the info i want[19:26:31] <patdk-wk> yep[19:27:16] <phantasm66> smtp doesn't know the 'status=' at the time of the smtp_header_check /^From:/[19:27:56] <phantasm66> so, that makes sense.. but wanted to know if i can get the smtp that does log the status= to also log the "From"[19:31:55] *** elex111111 has joined #postfix[19:46:53] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[19:51:58] *** uqlev has quit IRC[19:52:06] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[19:52:33] *** biggimat has quit IRC[19:59:29] <adaptr> a better question is: why does it have to be on the same line[19:59:59] <patdk-wk> simplicity :)[20:00:28] <adaptr> doesn't sound like simplicity[20:00:51] <adaptr> phantasm66: what is the Goal[20:01:01] <patdk-wk> depends on what end your looking at[20:01:09] <patdk-wk> from the, grep the logs end :)[20:01:29] <adaptr> please keep it on-topic.[20:02:01] <patdk-wk> heh? that was defently on topic[20:02:29] <adaptr> you're implying postfix is not perfect. you know you can't do that[20:02:59] <adaptr> we'd have to revoke your membership card again[20:03:47] <patdk-wk> I didn't imply anything[20:03:57] <patdk-wk> I think postfix does it fine, and you should matchup the queue id's[20:04:04] *** mroe has joined #postfix[20:04:04] *** mroe has joined #postfix[20:04:07] <adaptr> that is where this was going, yes[20:04:08] <patdk-wk> but from someone that doesn't want to do that work, I get it[20:04:29] <patdk-wk> you won't convince big W to make that change[20:04:43] <patdk-wk> so either patch it yourself, or give up on it :)[20:05:27] *** mambaw has joined #postfix[20:05:40] <phantasm66> adaptr: i want to have logstash grab a single line from the mail log, send it via AMQP to our rabbitMQ cluster. that single line has the from, to and delivery status and no log line correlation(s) need to take place. that is to say, rely on a queue-id which is NOT unique[20:06:04] <phantasm66> in 2.9 there is the long queue id capability[20:06:09] *** mambaw has quit IRC[20:06:11] <phantasm66> i run 2.8.4[20:06:11] <adaptr> yes, there is.[20:06:16] <phantasm66> that is not an option[20:06:20] <adaptr> so uprgade. 2.9 has been stable for a while[20:06:54] <phantasm66> well.. i should say... i didn't want to compile and roll a new RPM[20:06:59] <phantasm66> not a big deal though[20:06:59] <adaptr> boohoo[20:07:11] <phantasm66> yeah.. i am a little bitch :([20:07:17] <adaptr> there is a way to have smtpD log it all on one line, but that still doesn't have the status[20:07:47] <phantasm66> alright, i should really upgrade anyway[20:07:58] <phantasm66> thanks[20:08:21] <adaptr> of course, you're entirely free to patch postfix to include it[20:10:06] <phantasm66> my C is shitty[20:10:31] <patdk-wk> heh, I'm good at C, i'm ok with c++[20:10:45] <patdk-wk> got thrown into some c# stuff, oh hell[20:11:33] <phantasm66> it's kind of amazing that no one else has thought this would be useful enough to patch it... makes me feel like i'm crazy[20:11:55] <adaptr> clean process separation is one of the cornerstones of postfix design[20:11:57] <patdk-wk> it's more like, how many other things will break[20:14:15] *** Coiby has left #postfix[20:37:10] *** ubsrv has quit IRC[20:38:05] *** krosis has joined #postfix[21:09:20] *** breaker313 has joined #postfix[21:12:35] *** Wozl has joined #postfix[21:13:29] *** Section1 has quit IRC[21:14:23] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[21:14:38] *** breaker313 has quit IRC[21:17:00] *** mroe has quit IRC[21:17:00] *** Steve_The_Pirate has quit IRC[21:17:26] *** mroe has joined #postfix[21:17:26] *** mroe has joined #postfix[21:20:07] *** biggimat has joined #postfix[21:21:49] *** mroe has quit IRC[21:23:56] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[21:24:07] *** biggi_mat has joined #postfix[21:24:38] *** biggimat has quit IRC[21:24:42] *** ced117 has quit IRC[21:34:52] *** wdp has joined #postfix[21:35:32] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[21:38:01] *** mroe has joined #postfix[21:38:01] *** mroe has joined #postfix[21:39:00] *** breaker313 has joined #postfix[21:39:50] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[21:42:30] *** krosis has quit IRC[21:47:10] *** phantasm66 has joined #postfix[21:48:23] *** breaker313 has quit IRC[21:58:15] *** Deathvalley122 has quit IRC[22:08:32] *** scientes has quit IRC[22:08:36] *** s0ber has quit IRC[22:10:31] *** s0ber has joined #postfix[22:12:36] *** Deathvalley122 has joined #postfix[22:15:03] *** Kurt_ has quit IRC[22:17:07] *** Wozl has quit IRC[22:21:30] *** scientes has joined #postfix[22:27:45] *** Section1 has quit IRC[22:28:24] *** Marf has quit IRC[22:31:02] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:33:08] *** biggi_mat has quit IRC[22:39:32] *** e-anima has quit IRC[22:54:12] *** doc|home has joined #postfix[22:54:36] *** phantasm66 has quit IRC[23:03:05] *** jkfod has quit IRC[23:05:34] <doc|home> I keep getting Relay access denied; from=<X> to=<y> proto=ESMTP helo=<desktop> when using sasl from a remote machine but when I test it using telnet it seems to work fine[23:05:40] <doc|home> from the local machine[23:06:28] <tharkun> !tell doc|home sasl[23:06:28] <knoba> doc|home: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[23:07:22] <tharkun> !tell doc|home relay_denied[23:07:23] <knoba> doc|home: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_doma[23:08:21] <doc|home> yep, sounds right, but the problem is I'm trying to do the auth and it seems to be ignoring it[23:08:26] <doc|home> or something :/[23:08:55] <tharkun> !tell doc|home welcome[23:08:55] <knoba> doc|home: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[23:09:14] <doc|home> I looked at those last night[23:09:39] <rob0> did you make a pastebin? Repost it.[23:10:33] <doc|home> well crap, figured out what it was[23:10:52] <doc|home> smtp auth details weren't set, and the error messages weren't reflecting that :/[23:11:42] <tharkun> Hmm i doubt it. But then again if it works now, so be it[23:11:56] <doc|home> yeah, seems odd[23:17:05] *** wdp has quit IRC[23:17:05] <rob0> Can't argue with success, even if you don't understand it.[23:42:21] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[23:43:42] *** mroe has quit IRC[23:46:14] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[23:46:42] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[23:51:23] *** uqlev has quit IRC[23:56:44] *** robinho86 has left #postfix