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[00:24:56] <tewk> I'm trying to use maildrop with postfix on Ubuntu 11.10
[00:25:11] <tewk> I get this Feb 13 16:12:46 fred postfix/pipe[2155]: AFC44835B5: to=<tewk at tewk dot com>, relay=maildrop, delay=0.1, delays=0.05/0/0/0.05, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command output: Invalid user specified. )
[00:35:26] <danblack> tewk: you need to make sure postfix knows what local recipients addresses exist
[00:35:29] <Patrickdk> heh? why?
[00:35:44] <Patrickdk> what imap/pop server are you using?
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[00:36:48] <danblack> its a postfix error. look at local_recipient_maps
[00:37:18] <danblack> and make sure its the same as what postdrop is looking at.
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[00:52:29] <tewk> danblack: I'm using virtual addressess and local_recipient_maps isn't set in the main.cf
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[00:53:34] <danblack> tewk: it will be virutal_recipient_maps then
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[10:54:31] <cristian> Hi guys, is there an option to enable debug or at least verbose output for messages like: warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: Connection refused and fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms ?
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[11:06:35] <emgee> Hey postfixes! Something went wrong when I installed postfix-policyd on my server. Could someone be a darling and give me a pastebin with the policyd mysql database structure? :) Pretty please?
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[12:22:14] <Nicket> Hi all, i have the following problem: My mailserver is behind a NAT setup. And has a private IP. I made a PTR record for the forwarded public IP. However postfix mails through the firewall, so the outgoing IP is the public ip of the firewall. Does anybody know how i can tell postfix to use another public IP? I already tryed Proxy_interface = public ip
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[13:15:27] <m1chael> how can i merge two virtual email dirs together? i'm moving servers, and i've got users that have kept emails on server
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[13:19:37] <wsmsg> any reason why i should get the "file too large" when mailbox limit is 0 ?
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[13:37:16] <zimmi> hi
[13:37:51] <zimmi> is this correct that I've to add a domain to transport when I want to send mail to this host when the recipient is a specific domain?
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[13:59:27] <Rovanion> I'm fallowing this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_Virtual_User_Mail_System#Postfix to set up a mail server. Problem is, when I try and start up postfix it errors out on the line with relay_domains = * with the error: Bad field count.
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[14:20:57] <patdk-wk> !tutorial
[14:20:57] <knoba> patdk-wk: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[14:21:18] <patdk-wk> you really should understand what it means, when you set an option
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[15:44:18] <wdp> hey
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[16:12:41] <init> Is it possible to set things like mydomain outside the main.cf file
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[16:13:01] <init> the main.cf file is managed by puppet and will often be overwritten with non-working defaults
[16:13:06] <sysmonk> mydomain = /path/to/file
[16:13:28] <init> I tried that once and it kinda didnt work
[16:13:34] <lunaphyte_> then you did it wrong
[16:13:34] <init> are there some gotchas?
[16:13:49] <lunaphyte_> sure. if you do it wrong, it probably won't work.
[16:16:24] <lunaphyte_> thing is, if you overwrite a reference to a file, then of course the data in that file won't be used.
[16:16:40] <init> I see
[16:16:54] <init> But I can use variables that are defined in a file
[16:16:55] <init> like
[16:17:00] <init> mydomain = /path/to/file
[16:17:05] <init> lala = $mydomain
[16:17:43] <init> or even mydestinations = localdomain $mydomain anotherdomain
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[17:07:04] <Chosi> hey there. i'm having issues with a fresh postfix/dovecot setup here. the box is in a domain, so it's hostname.sub.domain.com whenever i try to send mail to user at host dot sub.domain.com i get an error from the mailer daemon telling me, that user at sub dot domain.com is an unroutable adress, how come?
[17:07:41] <Dominian> !welcome
[17:07:42] <knoba> Dominian: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
[17:07:57] <Chosi> ugh, sorry.
[17:08:43] <Chosi> postconf: http://pastebin.com/RaARLLib
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[17:44:16] <Chosi> so actually what i'm getting - to make this a little more precise - i can't reveice or send mail from that local domain. the hostname gets stripped for some reason and i can't seem to find a solition. it must be connected to mydestination i guess
[17:45:12] <Chosi> so, sending mail from user at box dot localdomain.domain.de ends up with a return to sender, stating that user at localdomain dot domain.de is unroutable
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[17:56:46] <lunaphyte_> !priorities
[17:56:46] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "priorities" : LOGS are almost *always* the primary thing you should be focusing on providing. unless someone has specifically told you logs are not needed, do not bother collecting other information until after you have a clear log snippit demonstrating what you are asking for help with. also see !logs, !no_logs, and !relevant_logs.
[18:00:23] <Chosi> i would've supplied logs if there was anything useful in them. seems like the mailhost delivering mail is already stripping hostnames from mails
[18:00:31] <Chosi> that's why they don't ever reach the MTA
[18:01:05] <lunaphyte_> just supply logs
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[18:03:10] <rob0> the logs almost surely were useful. :)
[18:03:43] <lunaphyte_> it's sort of a courtesy thing too.
[18:04:02] <Chosi> yeah, but thanks to your hint at the logs i found out the mailhost in between stole the hostname.
[18:04:05] <Chosi> :)
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[22:10:56] <kreign> I have some configuration parameters in main.cf which were put there by my predacessors which I am unfamiliar with, are referenced only once, and isn't in man 5 postconf ; could someone help me understand these? eg: noextdsn, greylist
[22:11:40] <Dominian> postconf -n to a pastebin would be a good start
[22:11:43] <Dominian> what version of postfix?
[22:11:51] <Dominian> postconf | grep mail_version
[22:12:22] <lunaphyte_> postconf mail_version !
[22:13:57] <Dominian> hehe either works :P
[22:14:08] <Dominian> lunaphyte_: but I'd knew it would irritate you specifically.. so ;)
[22:14:19] <lunaphyte_> you're a JERK! :)
[22:14:23] <Dominian> lol
[22:14:24] <Dominian> I know.
[22:14:28] <Dominian> probably why I'm alone on Vday :)
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[22:15:52] <kreign> Dominian, 2.2.10 in this case, but I'm upgrading to 2.8 and need to go through this to figure out where the spam is getting through.
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[22:20:46] <seekwill> You don't look at your Postfix config to figure out why spam "gets through"
[22:21:17] <lunaphyte_> right. you look at seekwill's
[22:21:25] <seekwill> :D
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[22:21:52] <seekwill> HEY IF YOU DIDN'T SAY NO IT'S NOT MY FAULT
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[22:27:59] <Dominian> kreign: that's a big jump
[22:28:22] <Dominian> kreign: if you install from source with postfix you can run make upgrade which 'should' do pretty well in warning of crap options and additions of new nes
[22:28:25] <Dominian> ones*
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[22:31:33] <kreign> Dominian, yeah i've opted to just go through the whole configuration manually.
[22:31:42] <kreign> they're 'shortcut aliases'
[22:31:55] <kreign> foo = check_client_access hash:/foo
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[22:39:55] <wdp__> Is there some page, which explains the practical use of restrictions in postfix? My question is more performance and mail-loss based. Like "restriction xyz does a fast syntax check - thus is fast. restriction xyz needs to do a dns lookup, thus is slow." and "restriction xyz might cause mail-loss because of buggy clients" such stuff.
[22:40:37] <wdp__> I mean, i can get some information from the documentation (all main.cf parameters) and i read that already. Now i'm looking for something more in-depth, if possible without looking at the source .)
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[22:53:16] <wdp__> none?
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[22:54:10] <rob0> There was an old page, "uce.html" iirc, that might have some of a high-level overview.
[22:54:23] <rob0> And of course the !cheatsheet
[22:54:43] <wdp__> hm. right. the cheatsheet.
[22:54:51] <wdp__> jim's document, yeah?
[22:55:02] <rob0> otherwise, you have to just think about what each restriction means, and go from there. Yes, Jim's.
[22:55:27] <wdp__> It's difficult to think about it. Because of theory vs realism.
[22:56:10] <wdp__> In a perfect world, every mailer and client would work like the rfc states and those restrictions would make perfect sense. We aren't in a perfect world and thats why these restrictions are there (hehe) and there are buggy mailers around.
[22:56:37] <wdp__> That's where thinking isn't helping.
[22:57:06] <rob0> Bugs are not so much the issue as is deliberate waves of abuse.
[22:58:24] <patdk-wk> buggy mailers?
[22:58:43] <patdk-wk> things handing out improper helo aren't buggy, they are illegitimate
[22:59:55] <wdp__> If i answer now, we would end up in an old debate :>
[23:00:07] <wdp__> .oO( and i don't want :p )
[23:03:44] <patdk-wk> hehe :)
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