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[00:29:37] <rhett_> Hi, I have a postfix server running that does mail forwarding. What's the best way to log the emails that go through?
[00:29:42] <rhett_> use tcpdump?
[00:30:47] <jimpop> !always_bcc
[00:30:47] <knoba> jimpop: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[00:31:24] <kyconquers> does postfix have a escape character, meaning any and all characters? ie (domain = example.*) so domain could be example.net, example.com, ...
[00:31:46] <jimpop> !pcre
[00:31:46] <knoba> jimpop: "pcre" : Perl-compatible regular expressions (pcre:) support in Postfix: http://www.postfix.org/PCRE_README.html
[00:32:01] <Patrickdk> example.uk, example.co.uk, example.kr, example.moon, example.name, ...
[00:32:18] <kyconquers> thanks jimpop
[00:32:24] <rhett_> thanks jimpop
[00:32:29] * Patrickdk wants example.venus
[00:32:47] * jimpop helped 2 people today. Time for some scotch
[00:32:56] <LiquidFusi0n> have the 'xxx' top levels gone live yet XD
[00:33:19] <Patrickdk> I thought that was a month or two ago
[00:33:42] <LiquidFusi0n> I know it was announced, but I believe they gave a little time for the companies to buy them up
[00:33:46] <LiquidFusi0n> Not sure though.
[00:33:56] <Patrickdk> hmm, can't resolve anything
[00:34:14] <Patrickdk> yep, no glue for xxx exists
[00:34:32] <LiquidFusi0n> ah well.
[00:35:00] <jimpop> ~$ dig playboy.xxx
[00:35:01] <jimpop> 130.250.5.253
[00:35:01] <jimpop> 130.250.4.253
[00:35:16] <Patrickdk> odd
[00:35:24] <LiquidFusi0n> reserved for registration
[00:35:29] <LiquidFusi0n> so they are just reserving them
[00:35:32] <Patrickdk> wonder why the root servers wouldn't respond to my request
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[00:35:57] <jimpop> probably in some probationary/challenge period
[00:36:02] <LiquidFusi0n> btw can anyone suggest a different null client
[00:36:09] <jimpop> nullmailer
[00:36:12] <LiquidFusi0n> msmtp is failing me
[00:36:18] <jimpop> !nullmailer
[00:36:19] <knoba> jimpop: "nullmailer" : a nullclient program which provides a means for a computer to submit mail to an existing msa. see http://untroubled.org/nullmailer/ for more info. also see !nullclient_software, !nullclient and !msa
[00:36:22] <LiquidFusi0n> Yeah I couldn't get that to work
[00:36:27] <jimpop> oh
[00:36:44] <LiquidFusi0n> I'll give you the compile error
[00:36:58] <jimpop> why not download the package?
[00:37:12] * jimpop is 1 finger into a 2 finger drink
[00:37:24] <LiquidFusi0n> http://pastie.org/3337909
[00:37:32] * thumbs is 2 thumbs into a 1 thumbs beer
[00:37:36] <LiquidFusi0n> package ?
[00:37:44] <LiquidFusi0n> ...
[00:37:51] <jimpop> apt-get install nullmailer
[00:37:54] <LiquidFusi0n> rofl
[00:37:56] <LiquidFusi0n> yum
[00:37:56] <jimpop> yum install nullmailer
[00:38:02] <LiquidFusi0n> fair enough
[00:38:05] <jimpop> ;-)
[00:38:09] <LiquidFusi0n> Should have searched that first huh
[00:38:09] <LiquidFusi0n> :P
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[00:38:47] <jimpop> your complile error suggest that you need to install g++ (another package)
[00:38:48] <LiquidFusi0n> hmm
[00:38:57] <LiquidFusi0n> nullmailer
[00:39:00] <LiquidFusi0n> doesn't exit
[00:39:05] <LiquidFusi0n> and search null and search mailer
[00:39:08] <LiquidFusi0n> return nothing
[00:39:09] <LiquidFusi0n> :(
[00:39:10] <jimpop> which distro?
[00:39:14] <LiquidFusi0n> CentOS 6
[00:39:29] <LiquidFusi0n> not by choice...
[00:39:30] <LiquidFusi0n> but still
[00:39:31] <LiquidFusi0n> XD
[00:40:01] <martian67> hi, postfix is sending from the main system IP, i want it to send from a vhost
[00:40:16] <martian67> $myhostname is set to the domain name of the vhost
[00:40:24] <Patrickdk> what exactly is a main system ip and a vhost?
[00:40:31] <martian67> secondary ip
[00:40:45] <martian67> not the default interface IP
[00:40:47] <Patrickdk> !smtp_bind
[00:40:48] <knoba> Patrickdk: Error: "smtp_bind" is not a valid command.
[00:40:52] <Patrickdk> !smtp-bind
[00:40:53] <knoba> Patrickdk: Error: "smtp-bind" is not a valid command.
[00:40:53] <LiquidFusi0n> so looks like a source install for me jimpoop
[00:40:56] <Patrickdk> heh, stupid bot
[00:40:57] <LiquidFusi0n> jimpop *
[00:40:57] <thumbs> !smtpd_bind
[00:40:57] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "smtpd_bind" is not a valid command.
[00:41:00] <LiquidFusi0n> which will be a pain
[00:41:07] <martian67> its smtp_bind_address
[00:41:11] <martian67> and it dosent work for me
[00:41:16] <martian67> it just does not send the mail
[00:41:17] <Patrickdk> no it's not
[00:41:18] <jimpop> LiquidFusi0n: i can't find it either for centos
[00:41:30] <LiquidFusi0n> Yeah, I tried msmtp as well
[00:41:37] <LiquidFusi0n> But libgnutls
[00:41:38] <thumbs> why not a custom route in your IP stack?
[00:41:38] <martian67> well according to postconf(5) it is :/
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[00:41:39] <LiquidFusi0n> fails :(
[00:41:39] <LiquidFusi0n> XD
[00:41:45] <Patrickdk> oh I guess it is
[00:41:46] <Patrickdk> heh
[00:41:49] <Patrickdk> works fine for me
[00:41:52] <Patrickdk> !smtp_bind_address
[00:41:52] <knoba> Patrickdk: "smtp_bind_address" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.
[00:41:53] <seekwill> LiquidFusi0n: Generally, you would build an RPM from source on your development machine, and check that into your own private repo. Then your server updates from your new repo
[00:41:54] <martian67> thumbs, wouldnt help here, routing is about destinations not sources
[00:42:20] <martian67> and besides packet munging fuckery is a lame workaround
[00:42:45] <LiquidFusi0n> seekwill but isn't that just adding more steps into actually just config; make; make install ?
[00:42:53] <martian67> Patrickdk, i have confirmed that that IP address can both send and recive traffic
[00:42:58] <LiquidFusi0n> I fail to see the purpose of making it an RPM
[00:43:07] <Patrickdk> martian67, heh?
[00:43:20] <Patrickdk> smtp_bind_address doesn't affect receiving email
[00:43:22] <Patrickdk> only sending
[00:43:26] <LiquidFusi0n> !help
[00:43:27] <knoba> LiquidFusi0n: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[00:43:29] <martian67> this is about sending email
[00:43:40] <Patrickdk> like I said, smtp_bind_address
[00:43:45] <LiquidFusi0n> !list
[00:43:45] <knoba> LiquidFusi0n: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Factoids, Internet, Karma, Misc, Owner, Praise, Seen, Services, User, and Utilities
[00:43:47] <martian67> im just telling you that routing to/from on that IP is working properl
[00:43:47] <martian67> y
[00:43:55] <martian67> Patrickdk, i tried that, it does not work
[00:44:02] <Patrickdk> martian67, it does work
[00:44:06] <martian67> ...
[00:44:06] <Patrickdk> I use it in ALL of my configs
[00:44:37] <Patrickdk> if it's not working, sounds like your vhost thing is screwy
[00:44:40] <Patrickdk> and should be fixed
[00:44:46] <martian67> ive already said its not
[00:44:49] <martian67> please listen
[00:44:54] <Patrickdk> no you haven't
[00:44:57] <Patrickdk> you haven't said shit
[00:45:02] <martian67> [16:42] <martian67> Patrickdk, i have confirmed that that IP address can both send and recive traffic
[00:45:02] <LiquidFusi0n> martian67 you are being rather rude
[00:45:08] <Patrickdk> you said smtp_bind _address doesn't work, but it does
[00:45:12] <martian67> [16:43] <martian67> im just telling you that routing to/from on that IP is working properl
[00:45:12] <Patrickdk> so something else on your system is broken
[00:45:12] <LiquidFusi0n> these guys are here to help, don't bitch
[00:45:33] <martian67> no, it is not, netcat to and from that IP works fine
[00:45:36] <Patrickdk> I also dunno what you mean by routing works
[00:45:40] <Patrickdk> I never asked about routing
[00:45:42] <Patrickdk> so why do I care
[00:45:51] <Patrickdk> I don't care about netcat
[00:45:53] <martian67> as in, sending traffic to that IP makes traffic arrive @ that ip
[00:45:54] <Patrickdk> netcat != postfix
[00:46:02] <LiquidFusi0n> ^
[00:46:03] <LiquidFusi0n> +1
[00:46:04] <martian67> the IP is not broken
[00:46:10] <Patrickdk> I never said the ip is broken
[00:46:18] <Patrickdk> stop infering wht I am saying
[00:46:34] <Patrickdk> if you want postfix to send email FROM ip x, smtp_bind_address = x
[00:46:54] <martian67> yes, i have set that option, it makes postfix not send mail at all
[00:47:08] <Patrickdk> send to who?
[00:47:18] <martian67> anyone/anything except the local system
[00:47:30] <Patrickdk> ok, how about this
[00:47:36] <Patrickdk> instead of us attmepting to help you
[00:47:41] <Patrickdk> you follow the channel rules
[00:47:52] <Patrickdk> then someone can point out the ovious, that you are missing
[00:47:52] <martian67> !debug
[00:47:53] <knoba> martian67: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/
[00:48:11] <martian67> i do not doubt that it is something obvious
[00:48:30] <Patrickdk> but to do what you want, as you stated, smtp_bind_address is the solution
[00:48:43] <Patrickdk> and without more details, well, I can't say what else that might break in your config
[00:48:47] <Patrickdk> as you haven't shared
[00:48:54] <martian67> ok. please hold
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[00:49:55] <Slidey> is there a simple way to manually edit the queue files directly on disk?
[00:50:06] <Patrickdk> slidey, rm -rf :)
[00:50:18] <Patrickdk> what do you mean by edit?
[00:50:37] <Patrickdk> and you should never touch a file in the queue folders when postfix is running
[00:51:18] <Slidey> ive put them in hold, but i want to rewrite the sender line in them
[00:51:49] <Slidey> in sendmail i'd just edit on disk, but it seems postfix is using a binary format and there's only a reader (postcat) - cant find anything to put one back together..
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[00:54:21] <martian67> Patrickdk, the problem was i misunderstood the syntax of smtp_bind_address
[00:54:35] <martian67> i thought you were supposed to specify localhost there aswell
[00:54:37] <martian67> you were not :)
[00:54:56] <martian67> strange it didnt error out upon starting
[00:54:58] <martian67> thank you
[00:56:19] <Slidey> Patrickdk any thoughts ?
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[01:32:24] <kyconquers> what would be wrong with these configs? http://pastebin.com/KWdSvE1m
[01:33:20] <kyconquers> i thought since postfix uses pcre that (.*) would work. or is this a ldap problem?
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[01:35:09] <kyconquers> would there be a way under the postfix format to search for a ("cn=%u,ou=%d")object under the base?
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[01:36:58] <pj> postfix *can* use pcre as a table type, that doesn't mean that you can just randomly throw regexp syntax anywhere you want.
[01:37:38] <Patrickdk> kyconquers, don't mix pcre and ldap
[01:37:45] <Patrickdk> the two aren't the same
[01:37:49] <pj> and that small snippet of one config doesn't really tell me anything.
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[01:40:23] <kyconquers> then how would i change it so that to ldap search will look for cn=%u,dc=%d, (could be several ou's or o's)$base?
[01:40:39] <Patrickdk> by using ldap search language :)
[01:41:22] <kyconquers> i've tried query_filter = (cn=%u,ou=%d) and it didn't work.
[01:41:41] <pj> don't know, I don't use ldap
[01:41:55] <kyconquers> Patrickdk, where would i read about that/
[01:42:12] <pj> !tell kyconquers ldap
[01:42:12] <knoba> kyconquers: "ldap" : a lookup method that can be used by Postfix. An introduction can be found in the LDAP_README also found at http://www.postfix.org/LDAP_README.html. A worthy project dealing with LDAP and Postfix can be found at: http://jamm.sourceforge.net/howto/html/
[01:42:14] <lunaphyte> pastebin postmap -q command and output, and pastebin the contents of the map file
[01:42:22] <kyconquers> ok i'm moving the question to #openldap
[01:43:06] <kyconquers> thanks pj and Patrickdk
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[01:45:34] <martian67> setting up postfix sucks hard
[01:45:45] <martian67> please become usable opensmtpd :D
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[02:55:58] <CrazyGir> hello! I apologize if my question is simply ignorant and naive of the details, though I have yet to find any helpful information here. I have a few projects which need a secure email setup, with redundancy and some sort of web interface. While I can manage the web hosting bit, and the redundancy there as well as having multiple relays.. I am unsure how to handle A) IMAP/POP/etc redundancy (eg w/ dovecot), wrt to shared storage in particular (is it a
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[02:59:11] <martian67> CrazyGir, opensmtpd isnt ready for that yet
[02:59:15] <martian67> give it time
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[03:08:50] <CrazyGir> but yea, I do want to use opensmtpd there too..
[03:08:50] <LiquidFusi0n> and rejoined
[03:08:50] <LiquidFusi0n> dafuq?
[03:09:02] <LiquidFusi0n> are they all one person?
[03:09:03] <rob0> Netsplit, means one of the freenode servers lost connection to the rest
[03:09:11] <LiquidFusi0n> oh right
[03:09:16] <LiquidFusi0n> :)
[03:09:34] <LiquidFusi0n> First time here on freenode XD Does it happen frequent?
[03:10:10] <rob0> sometimes yes, it varies
[03:10:28] <martian67> LiquidFusi0n, thats a "netsplit"
[03:10:40] <martian67> an irc network is a tree, one of the branches broke :)
[03:10:40] <LiquidFusi0n> Yup, never encountered one before.
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[03:10:53] <martian67> you must not use irc much then
[03:10:55] <LiquidFusi0n> Yeah I normally just connect to singular servers...
[03:11:03] <LiquidFusi0n> Small communities
[03:11:10] <LiquidFusi0n> Never been on freenode until today
[03:11:11] <LiquidFusi0n> XD
[03:11:22] <martian67> heres to new experiences lol
[03:11:34] * LiquidFusi0n tilts glass
[03:12:09] <martian67> CrazyGir, appologies, i seem to have assumed this was the wrong window :)
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[03:12:28] <LiquidFusi0n> ah well, back to snort rules :(
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[03:14:54] <CrazyGir> martian67: :)
[03:15:17] <CrazyGir> maybe my message was cut short?
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[03:15:50] <martian67> it was yes
[03:15:55] <CrazyGir> bah
[03:16:00] <LiquidFusi0n> GAH
[03:16:00] <martian67> "shared storage in particular (is it a"
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[03:16:27] <CrazyGir> (is it as simple as having multiple systems running dovecot and pointed at the same place) - B) storing data/emails such that all systems are happy (postfix, dovecot, etc) and lastly, C) attempting to separate frontline systems from where we actually store and auth email. thoughts?
[03:16:36] <Patrickdk> crazygir, it really isn't a postfix issue
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[03:16:49] <rob0> Yes, truncated, and the part that made it didn't get to Postfix.
[03:16:51] <Patrickdk> what you really have to solve is the dovecot + mailstore
[03:16:54] <CrazyGir> well, what cares / needs does postfix have in the scenario?
[03:17:11] <LiquidFusi0n> damn.
[03:17:12] <Patrickdk> none, it just offloads to dovecot
[03:17:18] <CrazyGir> Patrickdk: that's funny :)
[03:17:22] <Patrickdk> funny?
[03:17:25] <CrazyGir> what's the deal with dovecot?
[03:17:31] <CrazyGir> just not what I expected, I guess
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[03:17:36] <Patrickdk> heh?
[03:17:47] <Patrickdk> postfix recieves and sends email
[03:18:07] <Patrickdk> dovecot stores and processes users mailfolders
[03:18:07] <CrazyGir> so dovecot is the gatekeeper
[03:18:20] <Patrickdk> also, postfix offloads auth to dovecot too
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[03:18:25] <martian67> dovecot is an imap/pop server
[03:18:26] <CrazyGir> ah
[03:18:38] <martian67> it gives your users remotely accessible mailboxes
[03:18:49] <Patrickdk> the only thing both postfix and dovecot need to know, is valid users
[03:19:06] <rob0> If I was going to set up a clustering system, I'd have the MTA pieces hand off to a Dovecot LMTP server for delivery.
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[03:19:33] <CrazyGir> LMTP?
[03:19:38] <Patrickdk> rob0, ideally, ya, and using dovecots director features
[03:19:41] <rob0> therefore the Postfix side of it is trivial
[03:19:49] <Patrickdk> but director + lmtp is has issues currently
[03:19:58] <CrazyGir> I think I need to hire someone to build a config for me :)
[03:20:04] <rob0> perhaps so
[03:20:26] * CrazyGir adds another stack exchange post to the list
[03:21:14] <martian67> lmtp = lightweight mail transfer protocol
[03:21:25] <rob0> *LOCAL
[03:21:33] <martian67> its a protocol designed for passing around mails internally in a filtering/server cluster/setup
[03:21:36] <Patrickdk> martian67, we know what it means
[03:21:46] <martian67> im addressing CrazyGir
[03:21:54] <Patrickdk> !lmtp
[03:21:54] <knoba> Patrickdk: Error: "lmtp" is not a valid command.
[03:21:59] <Patrickdk> odd, bad bot
[03:22:01] <martian67> it dosent have the overhead of smtp
[03:22:02] <Patrickdk> !badbot
[03:22:02] <knoba> Patrickdk: Error: "badbot" is not a valid command.
[03:23:17] <rob0> The overhead is the same.
[03:23:46] <rob0> in fact, the lmtp(8) binary IS the smtp(8) one by a different name.
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[03:25:10] <Patrickdk> http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0509/1631.html
[03:25:15] <martian67> well you dont need a queue rob0
[03:25:23] <martian67> which is quite a bit of overhead
[03:25:29] <martian67> or can be anyways
[03:25:31] <Patrickdk> you don't need a queue with smtp
[03:26:51] <rob0> !learn lmtp as Local Mail Transfer Protocol, defined in RFC 2033, can be used for delivery via the Postfix lmtp(8) transport. You need an external LMTP daemon such as implemented by Cyrus or Dovecot IMAP.
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[03:29:27] <rob0> The receiving side does not need a queue. Obviously Postfix does have a queue, so there is no gain on this end.
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[07:25:49] <Bheam> do i have to do anything in particular to make sasl work for submission? i've previously used sasl with port 25 successfully
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[08:09:46] <zeshoem> How do I create a cluster to host a single mailbox on 2 machines, and if a user deletes a message via imap, it would delete on both servers?
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[08:30:58] <zeshoem> When I install postfixadmin, do I need to make changes to postfix to lookup the mysql tables?
[08:34:32] <cristian> Yes zeshoem
[08:36:11] <zeshoem> will the mailboxes be accessible via mutt ?
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[08:39:56] <cristian> Yes. The mailboxes still reside on your disk, the information about the vdomains, vusers and valiases.
[08:40:45] <zeshoem> Did you manage to get your dovecot install working?
[08:41:11] <cristian> Yes, everything is fine now, having some issues with the damn smtp.
[08:41:21] <cristian> I can get mails, can not send them from remote location.
[08:41:44] <cristian> Please pastebin your main.cf.
[08:44:14] <zeshoem> Here you go
[08:44:15] <zeshoem> http://pastebin.com/HSSdepA1
[08:44:32] <cristian> By the way, maybe these will help you: http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto
[08:44:44] <zeshoem> looks like the postfix side is ok, but the dovecot I am having trouble with
[08:47:09] <cristian> What version of dovecot do you have? there are major changes with 2.0 ...
[08:47:23] <cristian> use dovecot -n -c ./dovecot.conf to convert the file.
[08:48:01] <zeshoem> dovecot-2.0.9-2.el6_1.1.x86_64
[08:48:06] <zeshoem> I am on centos 6
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[08:48:34] <rhett> i'm trying to do virtual alias forwarding
[08:48:49] <rhett> it works, except when the from address is the same as the destination
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[08:49:13] <rhett> if from==to, it doesn't work, even if orig_to is different
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[09:19:58] <zeshoem> cristian: how did you manage to get dovecot working?
[09:21:18] <anisfarhana> If i am using postfix+roundcube webmail , then i got specified user cannot login to webmail , this is related to postfix or roundcube?
[09:21:37] <zeshoem> do you have an imap server installed and configured?
[09:22:33] <anisfarhana> yes zeshoem
[09:22:49] <anisfarhana> Problem with 1 specified user only.
[09:22:51] <anisfarhana> *headache*
[09:22:57] <zeshoem> check logs
[09:23:22] <zeshoem> what kind of linux system?
[09:23:26] <anisfarhana> debian.
[09:23:42] <zeshoem> not sure about debian, but centos would be /var/log/maillog
[09:24:08] <rhett> when I use gmail to send mail to an email address on my postfix server that gets forwarded back to the from address though a virtual alias, gmail doesn't put it in the inbox
[09:24:27] <rhett> yahoo does
[09:25:07] <zeshoem> not much you can do to change how gmail processes incoming mail
[09:25:19] <rhett> i have the same problem as this guy
[09:25:19] <rhett> http://serverfault.com/questions/179237/postfix-isnt-forwarding-e-mail-correctly
[09:25:42] <rhett> when craigslist forwards me mail, i get this "via craigslist" thing in the gmail
[09:25:56] <rhett> what is that?
[09:25:57] <anisfarhana> zeshoem: thanks , i'm checking the mail.log right now :)
[09:26:40] <rhett> maybe that's only if the domains are different between the from and the smtp server
[09:26:42] <zeshoem> are you sending the email from gmail to the postfix and expecting it to go back to the same gmail?
[09:26:53] <rhett> yes zeshoem
[09:26:58] <zeshoem> I know gmail detects duplicate email and will not show it to you
[09:27:11] <zeshoem> try sending from a different domain to postfix and test forwarding to gmail
[09:27:15] <rhett> yes, zeshoem , is there any way aroudn that?
[09:27:21] <rhett> that works zeshoem
[09:27:26] <zeshoem> not that I know of
[09:30:26] <anisfarhana> zeshoem: nothing related to imap in mail.log
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[09:34:42] <cristian> zeshoem: I used local hashes, not mysql.
[09:35:03] <cristian> If you want I can paste you the config, but it's the same as the one in the links I pasted you.
[09:37:17] <rhett> zeshoem, i can edit the mails before they're forwarded, right?
[09:37:23] <rhett> like add a header or footer?
[09:37:38] <rhett> how do I do that, with procmail?
[09:37:46] <rhett> maybe that foils the detection
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[09:40:46] <zeshoem> maybe change the subject
[09:41:00] <zeshoem> add something to the beginning
[09:41:18] <zeshoem> not sure how you would do that in an automated fashion though
[09:41:33] <zeshoem> I am curious why you need emails from one mailbox forwarded back to the same mailbox?
[09:41:54] <zeshoem> anisfarhana: what imap server are you using?
[09:42:06] <zeshoem> perhaps you need to check its logs separately
[09:42:36] <rhett> zeshoem, I set up this site http://jobpoacher.com
[09:42:47] <rhett> so, when people make a listing, they get an anonymous address
[09:43:00] <rhett> they often try it out from gmail with a test email
[09:43:15] <rhett> and then it looks like it doesn't work
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[09:43:36] <rhett> i should be modifying the body with a disclaimer anyway
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[10:00:55] <anisfarhana> zeshoem: sorry but i have no idea when you asked me what imap server i am using.
[10:01:03] <anisfarhana> zeshoem: i thought imap is imap.
[10:01:36] <anisfarhana> zeshoem: or you mean courier?
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[10:08:06] <cristian> Yes, courier and dovecot offer these facilities (imap and pph3)
[10:08:39] <anisfarhana> seem like the server is rejected this specified username.
[10:08:56] <anisfarhana> monkey at domain dot com , failed to login , if monkey2 at domain dot com , then no problem.
[10:08:57] <anisfarhana> Weird.
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[10:16:13] <cristian> Delete and add the user again.
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[10:21:26] <anisfarhana> cristian: tried that , no luck sir.
[10:22:16] <anisfarhana> cristian: SERVICE CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE! Error No. [501] , Apparently, the 501 error means that roundcube can't load its template.
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[10:23:10] <cristian> Use a local mail client (thunderbird) forget about roundcube for the moment.
[10:23:28] <anisfarhana> cristian: that user insist to use roundcube :/
[10:23:57] <cristian> See if it works without roundcube.
[10:24:08] <anisfarhana> cristian: it works with Ms Outlook.
[10:24:21] <anisfarhana> So i asusme it will work witth Thunderbird too.
[10:24:22] <anisfarhana> *assume
[10:26:50] <cristian> Then it's a roundcube thing...
[10:27:05] * anisfarhana nods
[10:27:10] <anisfarhana> unfortunately #roundcube is dead atm.
[10:29:33] <anisfarhana> cristian: http://pastebin.ws/ei3eui , any idea?
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[10:43:40] <cristian> anisfarhana: looks like a template issue. Does that file exists?
[10:43:47] <cristian> Did you change the roundcube theme?
[10:43:52] <cristian> (for that user)
[10:43:55] <anisfarhana> cristian: no.
[10:43:59] <anisfarhana> cristian: not sure if he does.
[10:44:19] <cristian> Ok, ceate temp at domain dot com and see if it works.
[10:44:23] <anisfarhana> cristian: any idea how to force that user switch back to default template?
[10:44:24] <cristian> Than change it's template.
[10:44:32] <anisfarhana> cristian: hold on sir.
[10:44:33] <cristian> No idea honestly.
[10:44:50] <anisfarhana> good workaround , i will try it now.
[10:45:07] <jimpop> cristian: can you help me with my itunes problem?
[10:45:11] <jimpop> :-)
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[10:47:54] <anisfarhana> cristian: SOLVED!!!!!!
[10:48:13] <cristian> Good. How did you solve it?
[10:48:38] <anisfarhana> mail:/usr/share/roundcube/skins# ls --> default MobileCube source --> rm -rf source
[10:48:45] <anisfarhana> source <-- not skin folder.
[10:48:55] <anisfarhana> So i guess he choose 'source' for the skin.
[10:49:22] <jimpop> or source was some cruft left over from a hack
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[10:50:11] <anisfarhana> jimpop: i do create mkdir source and download all the skins inside it , it was my mistake.
[10:50:33] <jimpop> oh, ok.
[10:56:02] <anisfarhana> cristian: many thanks sir!
[10:56:38] <cristian> Glad I could somehow help you :)
[10:58:12] * anisfarhana hugs her mailserver again
[10:58:13] <anisfarhana> lol
[10:58:19] <anisfarhana> Time for home!
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[12:02:01] <Yulth> Hi folks! Is there any way to avoid that postfix send an email when a bounced is detected?
[12:08:48] <Yulth> any suggestions?
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[12:19:38] <alterbass> hey there
[12:20:32] <Yulth> hi!
[12:21:15] <alterbass> Yulth are you a helper ? =)
[12:21:47] <Yulth> alterbass: no, I need help :D
[12:21:59] <alterbass> lol so do I
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[12:23:31] <Yulth> I need to avoid that postfix send an email to postmaster each time it detects a bounced
[12:23:44] <Yulth> Do you know how do it?
[12:24:10] <alterbass> hm it reminds me something yeah
[12:24:20] <alterbass> what's the mail?
[12:24:33] <alterbass> the text
[12:26:14] <Yulth> is a failure notice
[12:26:52] <Yulth> advising that the recipient does not exist
[12:28:41] <alterbass> i think that you can reject unknown destinations with the restrictions classes
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[12:33:04] <Yulth> each time that an email can not be sent delivered to recipient (for whatever reason), a notification is sent to sender
[12:33:17] <Yulth> *can not be sent
[12:33:35] <Yulth> I'm trying to avoid this notification....
[12:34:12] <alterbass> what's the context ?
[12:34:18] <alterbass> who sends ? your users
[12:35:13] <alterbass> and send to who ... your own domain, a foreign domain?
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[12:49:17] <Fleck> ubuntu 11.10 sasl problem - ideas?
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[12:51:43] <Section1> haarp fault !
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[13:02:56] <Yulth> it seems that solution is in 'notify_classes'....
[13:04:02] <Yulth> How I can disable the option '2bounce_notice_recipient'??
[13:05:16] <cristian> Hi guys, I have some issues setting up postfix + dovecot. I can receive email without any issue but I can not send email using the smtp server.
[13:05:33] <cristian> Here are the config files: http://fpaste.org/c4vW/ and http://fpaste.org/YF3A/
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[13:11:35] <sep> cristian, and the log ?
[13:12:32] <cristian> http://fpaste.org/Omn5/
[13:12:41] <cristian> That's the link sep
[13:14:52] <sep> to=<root at luna576 dot server4you.net>, relay=none, delay=0.2, delays=0.08/0/0.12/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for luna576.server4you.net loops back to myself) ;; means that you try to send to root at luna576 dot server4you.net , luna576.server4you.net 's MX points to your server. but your server is not configured to recive mails for that domain.
[13:16:14] <sep> i guess you need to add luna576.server4you.net to the mydomain= list
[13:17:27] <cristian> 10x sep, i'll do that.
[13:17:58] <sep> hum you have virtual domain ? howtodoityourself.org is also listed as mydomain
[13:18:10] <sep> the domain should be either local or virtual not both
[13:19:09] <sep> if you want admin mail to root to go somewhere else then root@hostname you can edit /etc/aliases and then run newaliases i usualy put something like root: management at domain dot com
[13:20:52] <sep> when it comes to your virtual delivery it looks like warning: connect to transport private/dovecot: Connection refused ;; might be a persmissions problem
[13:21:12] <sysmonk> damn, somebody brought some strange candies at work
[13:21:17] <sysmonk> they smell ... a lot
[13:21:19] <sysmonk> can't sit here
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[13:24:57] <alterbass> hey ... someone knows how to solve connection problem between dovecot and a ldap server(AD) ?
[13:25:08] <alterbass> got this
[13:25:09] <alterbass> SASL LOGIN authentication failed: Connection lost to authentication server
[13:25:37] <alterbass> i use dovecot only to smtp authentication of postfix
[13:25:37] <sysmonk> 1. this is #postfix, not #dovecot 2. the error is not informative enough to help you
[13:26:15] <alterbass> i've got that to using outlook : mx dovecot: auth(default): ldap(prod,192.168.200.13): Connection appears to be hanging, reconnecting
[13:26:37] <alterbass> but i only got the first message using telnet
[13:26:41] <sep> cristian, douiblecheck your private/auth-client that it got the rights you defined in dovecot.conf
[13:26:52] <sep> and verify postfix user can access the file
[13:29:57] <alterbass> sysmonk ... you think the error comes from dotecov ?
[13:31:35] <sysmonk> i don't think. you have not supplied enough information
[13:36:53] <Yulth> anyone know how to disable double bounce?? :S
[13:37:16] <sysmonk> don't bounce, and doun't double bounce :)
[13:37:39] <Yulth> I need to capture the bounceds
[13:37:50] <Yulth> but avoiding the double_bounce....
[13:38:47] <Yulth> I have tried adding some parameters to main.cf
[13:38:59] <sysmonk> what do you mean by 'capture' the bounce?
[13:39:05] <sysmonk> and why do you have double bounce?
[13:39:10] <Yulth> like as bounce_notice_recipient = no
[13:39:14] <Yulth> but nothing works...
[13:39:44] <sysmonk> bounce_notice_recipient requires a recipient, not a yes/no param
[13:39:53] <Yulth> sysmonk: catch the email that have a problem
[13:40:26] <Yulth> sysmonk: ok, therefore, How I can disable double_bounce notification? :S
[13:40:38] <sysmonk> deliver it to /dev/null
[13:40:48] <sysmonk> make them NOT bounce
[13:40:51] <sep> Yulth, why do you bounce in the first place ?
[13:40:55] <sysmonk> why do they bounce?
[13:41:05] <sysmonk> that's what i asked in the first place :)
[13:41:16] <sysmonk> 02-08 14:39:04 < sysmonk> and why do you have double bounce?
[13:41:23] <sysmonk> :( nobody listens to me today
[13:41:34] <Yulth> they bounce for a lot of reasons: "quota exceeded, user temporary unavailable, etc."
[13:42:09] <sysmonk> why is the user temporary unavailable?
[13:42:12] <sep> Yulth, you should reject/defer instead of bounce in 110% of all cases
[13:42:19] <sysmonk> why do you not rejec the email because of quota in the rcpt stage, not on delivery?
[13:43:09] <Yulth> because I'm parsing a maillog, and ALL information referred to emails I should read from maillog
[13:43:25] <Yulth> and for it, the Double_Bounce generates some extra lines in the maillog
[13:43:34] <Yulth> and I'm trying to avoid it...
[13:43:37] <sysmonk> you don't get the point
[13:43:39] <sysmonk> make it NOT to bounce
[13:44:02] <sysmonk> i come to your server and tell you "hi i'm sending an email to john, the mail is 10MB" and you accept the mail and then bounce
[13:44:09] <sysmonk> don't do it, you have to reject the email, not bounce
[13:44:19] <sysmonk> same with the 'temporary unavailable' stuff
[13:44:50] <sysmonk> if you realllly don't want the bounces, you can change the bounce service to discard
[13:45:05] <sysmonk> but that is just wrong
[13:45:40] <sysmonk> bounce_service_name=discard
[13:45:48] <Yulth> Feb 8 13:34:22 main postfix-mailr500slow/smtp[29 26B19624DE2: to=<esferigorzio_tu at hotmail dot com>, relay=mx4.hotmail.com[99.99.99.99]:25, delay=0.93, delays=0/0/0.55/0.38, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx4.hotmail.com[99.99.99.99] said: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[13:45:49] <sysmonk> it will discard all bounces, but that is _wrong_
[13:45:56] <Yulth> line that show a BOUNCED
[13:46:13] <Yulth> Feb 8 13:34:22 main postfix-mailr11-161/bounce[29399 26B19624DE2: sender non-delivery notification: 3DDA5624E28
[13:46:23] <Yulth> line referred to mail 26B19624DE2:
[13:46:46] <Yulth> which generates an extra maillog lines, referred to notification 3DDA5624E28
[13:46:51] <sysmonk> blah, so it's not YOU is bouncing, the hotmail is rejecting
[13:47:02] <sysmonk> so you want to turn off DSN ?
[13:47:04] <sysmonk> or bounces?
[13:47:05] <sysmonk> :)
[13:47:16] <Yulth> because I need avoid the line " sender non-delivery notification: 3DDA5624E28"
[13:47:35] <Yulth> and, of course, avoid this new email to "postmaster"
[13:48:48] <Yulth> any suggestions?? :___(
[13:49:12] <waldi> so you accept undeliverable mail and want to trash the bounce?
[13:50:00] <_ruben> bounces are bad, but double-bounces are so much worse :)
[13:50:16] <waldi> no. bounces are not bad. creating unnecesary bounces is bad
[13:50:45] <Yulth> I only want disable postmaster notification, when a bounced occurs
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[13:57:33] <sysmonk> Yulth: if you want to fully remove that, then bounce_service_name=discard should do it
[13:57:42] <rob0> huh?
[13:57:50] <rob0> !notify_classes
[13:57:50] <knoba> rob0: "notify_classes" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of error classes that are reported to the postmaster. The default is to report only the most serious problems. The paranoid may wish to turn on the policy (UCE and mail relaying) and protocol error (broken mail software) reports.
[13:57:52] <sysmonk> but it's not what i would like to do
[13:58:18] <rob0> Yulth, who set up the complex multiple instances for you?
[13:58:29] <Yulth> sysmonk: ok, I will try it
[13:59:43] <sysmonk> rob0: notify_classes won't disable the bounce message to the sender, or does it?
[14:00:03] <Yulth> sysmonk: it works perfectly
[14:00:11] <Yulth> sysmonk: thank you very much!
[14:00:11] <rob0> < Yulth> I only want disable postmaster notification, when a bounced occurs
[14:00:19] <rob0> ewww.
[14:00:23] <Yulth> rob0: of course
[14:00:33] <Yulth> in order to avoid extra maillog lines.
[14:01:03] <sysmonk> rob0: he wants more than that :)
[14:01:17] <sysmonk> at least i thought so :)
[14:01:31] <sysmonk> anyway, it's ugly, and one day it will kick him in the back
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[15:07:19] <patdk-wk> I wonder if this is really a ligit email server: 216.52.167.243
[15:08:09] <thumbs> ligiiit.
[15:08:26] <patdk-wk> it keeps giving me the strangest helo's :)
[15:08:30] <patdk-wk> movietickets.local
[15:08:34] <patdk-wk> movietickets.smtp1
[15:08:38] <patdk-wk> movietickets.smtp2
[15:08:43] <patdk-wk> smtp7.movietickets.local
[15:22:17] <tuxick> isn't movietickets scam anyway?
[15:22:44] <patdk-wk> no idea
[15:22:50] <patdk-wk> finally found an email
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[15:23:02] <patdk-wk> it looks ligit, just no clue about email
[15:23:12] <tuxick> hmmye
[15:23:19] <patdk-wk> Received: from mail pickup service by movietickets.smtp2 with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
[15:23:20] <patdk-wk> Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:25:40 -0500
[15:24:00] <patdk-wk> direct mail delievery via that ms service, no real mailserver in between
[15:24:20] <jwing> *cough* spam
[15:24:41] <patdk-wk> oh, spamass marked it as spam, scored a 6.5 :)
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[16:38:04] <marl_scot> hi, could anyone tell me if the following is posible with postfix, and if so, point me to a howto?. I have an exchange server in the office, and the boss wants to have a secondary server as a backup incase the exchange box goes down. What we need is to have the postfix box copy all emails into local users maildir folders to allow them to access there emails via webmail while the exchange server is brought backup. BUT have the postfix box push all the
[16:38:05] <marl_scot> email it has backed up to the exchange server after it comes online again. I dont need to worry about MX records, as the change between exchange and postfix hadnling will be done via a port redirection in the router.
[16:38:43] <marl_scot> or would i be better setting up the postfix box to relay all mail to the exchange machine and keep a local copy of anything in maildir folders for the users?
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[16:39:01] <tuxick> remove sexchange?
[16:39:08] <marl_scot> sorry if this doesnt make a lot of sense, trying to get my head around the idea
[16:39:15] <marl_scot> lol, would LOVE to remove exchange!
[16:39:16] <lunaphyte_> you certainly shouldn't ever have an exchange server exposed to the public internet
[16:39:47] <marl_scot> I use linux/postfix all the time, and had a nightmare just trying to setup a basic mail forward on the exchange box a couple of days ago :(
[16:40:45] <lunaphyte_> a responsible configuration includes an actual mail server [e.g. postfix] used as the mx, which then relays to the exchange server. this is regardless of any concerns about "downtime".
[16:41:03] <marl_scot> the exchange box is limited to what IP addresses it can recieve email via, as we use postini to filter our spam, so we can be certain that all emails hitting our network should only be accepted if they ether are internal IPs or from one of the postini IPs
[16:41:04] <lunaphyte_> as far as access to email while exchange is down - that is the wrong way to go about addressing that.
[16:41:25] <marl_scot> lunaphyte, what would you sujest?
[16:42:20] <lunaphyte_> *suggest
[16:42:54] <marl_scot> lol, sorry spelling isnt one of my strong points!
[16:43:38] <lunaphyte_> no worries. i like to know when i make spelling or grammar mistakes so i can avoid them in the future, so i figure most other folks do too.
[16:44:13] <marl_scot> yup, only problem is trying to remember them ;)
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[16:45:48] <lunaphyte_> if there is concern that the likelihood is high enough that the exchange server will have some problem, and the time to correct the problem is expected to be that lengthy, and it would be that painful to not have access to mail for that period, then the investment should be in redundancy of the exchange service.
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[16:46:46] <marl_scot> ok, fair point
[16:47:07] <lunaphyte_> because of how email works, and the various components, doing what your boss thinks [s]he wants is just more trouble than it's worth.
[16:47:26] <marl_scot> would the above be posible (easy) with 2 postfix boxes, instead of postfix/exchange?
[16:48:15] <lunaphyte_> well, the thing is, you're gonna use exchange no matter what, it sounds like?
[16:48:41] <Dominian> To do proper 'fail over' you need two exchange boxes
[16:48:53] <patdk-wk> postfix doesn't enter into this at all
[16:48:55] <Dominian> or at least a primary and a secondary.. both that sync with each other
[16:49:01] <patdk-wk> cause postfix doesn't store mail, that is accessable to a user
[16:49:05] <Dominian> if one goes down the clients should automatically talk to the other box
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[16:49:22] <patdk-wk> so you either need high availablility exchange, or dump exchange and go high availablility something else
[16:49:34] <Dominian> yep
[16:49:55] <Dominian> Trying to thwart 'cost' and substitute open source isn't really the way to go if you insist on Exchange.
[16:49:59] <lunaphyte_> right. it's all about the user's expectations. that's the component your boss is probably missing.
[16:50:22] <lunaphyte_> focus needs to be on a user's activities, not the technical manner in which email flows
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[16:50:33] <patdk-wk> if it's exchange 2007 or 2010, that means 4 exchange servers, for high-avail
[16:50:41] <Dominian> No wusing postfix as a relay.. exchange becomes unavailable for some reason.. postfix will 'queue' up email and when exchange comes back online it will deliver it... of course
[16:51:06] <Dominian> but that seems to be outsid eof the scope of what you are really wanting to accomplish
[16:51:40] * patdk-wk wonders
[16:51:49] <patdk-wk> what all these exchange downtime questions the last 2 weeks
[16:52:10] * patdk-wk attempts to speak his native language
[16:54:13] <marl_scot> the boss is moving windoz support to a new company, they got him thinking about backup mail servers/time to replace exchange etc. TBH if i could perswade him to replace exchange (or at least exchange email) with linxu boxes, would be a lot easier for me. But ok, will gladly tell him its not posible to use postfix/exchange in this mannor and save myself a TON of headaches :)
[16:54:24] <marl_scot> thanks for the help guys
[16:54:33] <lunaphyte_> oh, it's completely possible.
[16:54:36] <lunaphyte_> just stupid.
[16:54:43] <lunaphyte_> :)
[16:56:03] <marl_scot> lol, just eamiled the boss to say no-go on it :)
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[16:59:20] <zooz> hello people
[17:01:18] <zooz> I have a quick question. What would be a more appropriate way to do that, so that any mail which is tend to be delivered via "virtual" is redirected to another email address without being stored on disk?
[17:02:05] <rob0> Um, for one thing, the question seemed misdirected: if you want to have a hotswap mailstore, Postfix is not the software to provide it. Postfix is the MTA, marl_scot needs to look at imapd options.
[17:02:30] <wdp_> hey rob0 .)
[17:02:49] <rob0> for another thing, it's a very difficult pipe dream, to be able to have mailbox redundancy
[17:02:54] <rob0> hey
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[17:04:25] <marl_scot> rob0, it was more the getting the backed up email back into the exchange box afterwards, kind of using TEE, where one copy of mail goes into the mailqueue as per an MX backup, and antoher copy is passed to imapd etc.
[17:04:36] <rob0> zooz, does not make sense. A queue is always stored on disk.
[17:04:54] <zooz> rob0, sure, queue is not a problem
[17:05:01] <zooz> since it is temporary
[17:05:16] <lunaphyte_> perhaps s/stored on disk/delivered/ ?
[17:05:23] <rob0> zooz, then what is the problem?
[17:06:01] <zooz> rob0, I guess no problem
[17:06:17] <zooz> sorry,
[17:06:39] <rob0> wow, that one was easy to solve :)
[17:06:45] <zooz> :-)
[17:07:42] <zooz> I guess I will just have to do it in header_checks
[17:07:50] <rob0> ?
[17:07:52] <lunaphyte_> wtf are you talking about?
[17:07:54] <lunaphyte_> !goal
[17:07:55] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is
[17:08:32] <zooz> right, so I need to redirect mail to other email address as it arrives
[17:08:34] <rob0> marl_scot, looking at it the wrong way, and if you ever did have to swap mailstores like that, you'd have unhappy users.
[17:08:55] <lunaphyte_> zooz: that's called an alias
[17:08:57] <rob0> You'd do the sync in imap, not at the MTA.
[17:09:31] <jelly> or even below imap at the storage layer, if such a thing existed
[17:09:59] <rob0> People have their mailboxes, and they delete stuff, or they put things in folders. The MTA cannot know this.
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[17:10:38] <rob0> Maybe your boss is trying to micromanage that which he does not understand.
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[17:11:02] <rob0> !tell zooz virtual_alias_maps
[17:11:02] <knoba> zooz: "virtual_alias_maps" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).
[17:11:29] <zooz> rob0, thanks, looking at it now
[17:13:16] <rob0> too much work to do
[17:14:09] <lunaphyte_> i don't believe you
[17:14:46] <rob0> I am trying to become an openssl guru, driving me nuts
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[17:17:07] <LucidGuy> Question: What is the point of a listserv? Mailman seems to be a popular option?
[17:17:07] <lunaphyte_> oh, fun
[17:17:30] <lunaphyte_> wrong channel
[17:17:58] <LucidGuy> lunaphyte, huh?
[17:18:20] <lunaphyte_> you're asking in the wrong channel
[17:18:37] <rob0> A listserv serves lists ... if you need a mailing list, you need it.
[17:18:43] <jelly> what's the point of #postfix
[17:18:55] * rob0 points to thumbs
[17:19:07] <wdp_> jelly, we're making friends here.
[17:19:16] <wdp_> jelly, wanna become seekwill 's friend?
[17:19:31] <rob0> openssl has no friends
[17:19:42] <jelly> wdp_: does that entail finding him a job
[17:21:18] <LucidGuy> rob0, hmm... makes sense .. but also does not. Mailing lists are taken care of by the email server, what would be the point then?
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[17:25:11] <rob0> A MTA does not do list management, confirmations, bounce handling, ...
[17:25:43] * rob0 kicks openssl again
[17:25:50] <kriebz> LucidGuy: subscribes, unsubscribes, digests, moderation... there's more to a list than just being a reflector
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[17:26:43] <LucidGuy> kriebz, Ok.. slowlying understanding.
[17:26:53] <Dominian> hrm
[17:27:02] <Dominian> You know I just thought of another possible solution for that Exchange server thing
[17:27:21] <Dominian> which involves postfix and the ability to acces sthe email via ewebmail
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[17:28:02] <Dominian> marl_scot: You still around?
[17:28:24] <LucidGuy> Management asked me if I can build them a listserv ... funny enough I've never even knew these apps existed. Sounds like they are very much a part of being an email server under the hood. like postfix.
[17:28:56] <Dominian> If you are going to do this with postfix... I suggest using mailman
[17:30:24] <LucidGuy> kriebz, Dominian Why don't people just stick to email groups/aliases to email to a single user with a single email address?
[17:30:46] <rob0> Mailman does a lot of stuff that Postfix is not made to do. If you try just using a virtual alias as a "mailing list", you will quickly find out why you want a listserv.
[17:30:49] <LucidGuy> group of users via single email ... I mean
[17:31:00] <rob0> have fun :)
[17:31:25] <Dominian> LucidGuy: You'll find out later down the road why we suggest using listserv software such as mailman
[17:32:39] <rob0> A friend of ours ( Dominian knows who ) is a teacher in a US state. The state education department set up a "mailing list" as an alias going to all the teachers in that state.
[17:32:59] <rob0> madness ensued, of course.
[17:33:00] <kriebz> oh boy
[17:33:29] <kriebz> LucidGuy: you've never subscribed to a mailinglist yourself? never noticed the "Click this link to unsubscribe" message?
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[17:33:54] <LucidGuy> kriebz, yes.
[17:34:16] <rob0> Madness can happen on a much smaller scale, and yet still be mad.
[17:34:25] <Dominian> rob0: hahahahha
[17:34:29] <Dominian> rob0: I totally forgot about that
[17:34:31] <Dominian> that was hiliarious
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[17:35:22] <kriebz> which happened first: the load on the box hits 1000, or it was blacklisted by everyone
[17:36:34] <LucidGuy> Will it not complicate things if you already have an groupware email server for the domain? Just trying to picture how inbound email would bake it back to the listserv
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[17:40:15] <kriebz> mailman actually uses aliases for the list addresses. if you're not running mailmain on the mail server, you probably just install those aliases by hand on you existing mail server
[17:40:19] <kriebz> read the docs and try it out
[17:41:43] <LucidGuy> kriebz, sounds like you would want to install something like mailman on the same box as the email server. With that said something like mailman would obviously not work with an msExchange environment.
[17:42:15] <kriebz> I'm not saying it won't. also, don't use exchange. that's just cruel
[17:42:30] <LucidGuy> kriebz, I don't, just an example.
[17:42:47] <kriebz> in fact, I'm *sure* there's a way to do it, it just might require more effort on your part
[17:45:18] <LucidGuy> kriebz, Ok I setup mailman with postfix on a seperate box. Create a group of 100 users. mailling list is maillist at mydomain dot com. The main email server hosting mydomain is seperate. How would inbound emails addressed to maillist at mydomain dot com even make it to the mailman box.
[17:46:23] <kriebz> you make an alias for listname at mydomain dot com on your main email server to e.g. listname at listserver dot mydomain.com, and make sure the two boxes speak SMTP correctly to each other
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[17:47:25] <LucidGuy> nice .. right in the middle of the conversation.
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[17:49:55] <catphish> what is the correct way to set up a pipe based transport for locally deliverable mail?
[17:51:39] <Buduk> when i add a new email account (IMAP) to my mail client numfile increases by ~1000 on my vps, using a client with a few accounts on it quickly causes me to exceed the hardlimit set by my host, is this normal? do i need to have the hardlimit increased or is there some configuration i can change to drastically reduce this ?
[17:52:58] <rob0> Buduk, perhaps you want to ask this in a place for your imapd?
[17:53:13] <rob0> !tell catphish pipe
[17:53:13] <knoba> catphish: "pipe" : the pipe(8) daemon processes requests from the postfix queue manager to deliver messages to external commands. this program expects to be run from the master(8) process manager
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[17:54:11] <catphish> i can make a pipe, but i'm unclear how to make it the transport for local domains
[17:54:18] <Buduk> ah right ok, i guess this would be courier?
[17:54:35] <rob0> I don't know.
[17:54:38] <rob0> !imap
[17:54:38] <knoba> rob0: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.
[17:54:51] <Buduk> great thanks,
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[17:57:14] <Bud_> i said thanks before my dc incase u didnt see :)
[17:58:25] <catphish> the real problem i'm having is that if i set up a spam filter to run as the "spamfilter" user, then mail is delivered locally to a pipe in the alises file, it is executed as the spamfilter user
[17:58:30] <catphish> i'm struggling to avoid it
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[18:01:03] <marl_scot> Dominian, yup for a couple more mins, early night tonight :)
[18:01:17] <catphish> think i'm just not understanding the process fully, will keep poking
[18:02:34] <catphish> ah no, it does run as the default user :)
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[18:09:15] <catphish> turns out selinux was upsetting me
[18:09:28] <rob0> Bud_, I saw, np.
[18:10:02] <rob0> !alias_owner
[18:10:02] <knoba> rob0: Error: "alias_owner" is not a valid command.
[18:10:10] <rob0> !aliases_owner
[18:10:10] <knoba> rob0: "aliases_owner" : When an aliases(5) file (listed in or referred to from $alias_maps) is owned by a user other than root, the file owner and group would be the UID/GID for any commands invoked from that file. See aliases(5) and local(8) for details.
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[18:31:17] <Dominian> marl_scot: I thought of another idea..
[18:31:20] <Dominian> marl_scot: that might be possible.
[18:32:15] <Dominian> marl_scot: You could do hosted email boxes in postfix, that are given webmail access, then use POP3 connectors on Exchange or another type of program like POPCon to pop the email from postfix into exchange accounts. With that, they still have the ability to utilize exchange and if exchange goes down.. they can access their email that hasn't been delivered yet via webmail hosted on postfix
[18:32:54] <rob0> POP3? can't it do IMAP?
[18:33:13] <rob0> otherwise sounds like a good idea
[18:33:16] <Dominian> rob0: It can, to a degree.
[18:33:29] <Dominian> but preferrably use pop3 to actually pull the email in and then deliver to exchange mailboxes
[18:33:42] <rob0> POP3 won't work if the user makes folders
[18:33:48] <Dominian> then you can configure the pop3 connectors to either save email on the remote server or remove it or whatever
[18:33:53] <Dominian> rob0: Oh I know
[18:34:11] <Dominian> the whole point is they'd need to understand the full opereation behind and NOT make folders on their pop3 accounts if they login via webmail
[18:34:34] <Dominian> We do this here to a degree with some of our clients.
[18:34:39] <Dominian> works quite well
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[19:08:30] <Shbinky> I would like to use Postfix Address Rewriting in order to forward incoming messages of specific users to different email address. I managed to do this already. Is there a way to change from From header as well? (I want to target will see that the messaged sent from my server and not from the source).
[19:09:31] <rob0> !rewriting
[19:09:31] <knoba> rob0: "rewriting" : See http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html for a discussion of address rewriting features in Postfix.
[19:09:44] <patdk-wk> that is what the env from address is for, or return-path
[19:10:46] <Shbinky> thanks
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[19:30:35] <lunaphyte_> fwiw, that's not usually a good idea
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[20:37:24] <erik76> hi
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[20:37:51] <erik76> there is the chan ita postfix?? sorry for my english
[20:39:19] <dragonheart> !tell erik76 welcome
[20:39:19] <knoba> erik76: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
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[20:40:34] <dragonheart> erik76: the postfix channel is here.
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[20:41:14] <erik76> there isn't channel italia
[20:41:39] <erik76> i'm a question
[20:43:46] <erik76> The company that manages my email use postfix and i download email whith client pop3
[20:45:30] <erik76> whene the user external send email in my company whehe there is 2 ccn whene the downlaod email the information ccn is broken ..
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[20:45:55] <erik76> sorry for my english
[20:47:08] <erik76> the company respond for my question there isn' t solution
[20:47:27] <erik76> only solution relay email in my server on the port 25
[20:49:12] <wdp_> ccn?
[20:49:19] <wdp_> whene = when?
[20:49:29] <erik76> yes
[20:49:47] <wdp_> you're sure you mean "respond" or do you mean "responsible"?
[20:49:50] <erik76> bcc
[20:50:07] <wdp_> ah
[20:50:08] <wdp_> no.
[20:50:24] <wdp_> you mean they responded to your question by saying there is no solution.
[20:50:39] <erik76> yess
[20:50:52] * wdp_ should get a job as de-crypter
[20:51:16] <erik76> the header bcc is broken whene the downlaod email
[20:51:27] <erik76> if there is 1 bcc is ok
[20:51:52] <erik76> there is 1 a and 1 bcc the bbc is not recive email
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[20:55:46] <ceraphin1> Hi all
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[20:56:26] <ceraphin1> i need help on a problem with dovecto 2.1 and postfix
[20:56:48] <ceraphin1> i have a problem with SASL authentification
[20:57:14] <patdk-wk> !sasl
[20:57:15] <knoba> patdk-wk: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[20:57:35] <ceraphin1> thanks knoba
[20:57:40] <ceraphin1> but i know that
[20:57:46] <ceraphin1> i have a previous version of dovecot
[20:57:55] <ceraphin1> 1.2.15 which was working perfectly
[20:58:03] <ceraphin1> since i made an update to 2.1
[20:58:11] <ceraphin1> it stop working and i don't know why
[20:58:18] <patdk-wk> 2.1 doesn't exist yet, still rc
[20:58:23] <patdk-wk> I'm pretty sure
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[20:59:25] <ceraphin1> sorry i wanna say
[20:59:27] <ceraphin1> 2.0.17
[20:59:36] <ceraphin1> miss some chars XD
[20:59:43] <ceraphin1> so tired ^^
[20:59:57] <ceraphin1> but for sasl i have
[20:59:57] <ceraphin1> smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
[20:59:57] <ceraphin1> smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth
[21:00:31] <ceraphin1> and in mail.err it say postfix/smtpd[10330]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
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[21:14:27] <ceraphin1> ok i found my problem
[21:14:42] <ceraphin1> it was a problem in dovecot conf
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[21:38:15] <pj> +
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[22:31:08] <Syco54645_work> does anyone see any issues here as to why my test mail wouldnt be delivered? http://pastebin.com/0tUSNfb1
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[23:42:00] <mroe> This question is for people that use bcc maps as an archiving method. What method do you use for accessing the archive?
[23:44:29] <dragonheart> mutt -R
[23:44:47] <dragonheart> mutt -R /path
[23:45:23] <mroe> what mailstore type do you use?
[23:46:19] <mroe> and how large is your archive?
[23:50:54] <dragonheart> ah. was using maildir. Was also using procmail to do year/month/day folders.
[23:51:14] <dragonheart> sorry don't have the script - was a previous employer.
[23:51:27] <dragonheart> was using maildir
[23:51:45] <mroe> that's a pretty good idea
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