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[00:00:31] <lunaphyte> ah, so you're really just attempting to abstract a fixed set of literals?
[00:00:40] <kreign> more or less.
[00:01:36] <lunaphyte> so then yeah, a regex or pcre map type would likely be suitable. regular regex/pcre syntax/semantics apply, and you can test your maps with postmap.
[00:01:47] <kreign> the number is a rolling one, eg. 310 through 433, and then a couple months later it's 434 through 510 or some such thing.
[00:02:07] <lunaphyte> hmm. what an odd prescription.
[00:02:50] <kreign> why's that?
[00:02:52] <rob0> see pcre_table(5) or regexp_table(5). But maybe recipient_delimiter could work?
[00:02:52] <lunaphyte> anyway, speaking of exercise, time to get out with the puppy dog for a bit. bbl.
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[00:03:40] <kreign> rob0, thanks.
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[00:08:22] <kyconquers> would a question on a ldap look up for the relay_recipient_maps be reliant to this channel or should i try open-ldap?
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[00:14:14] <rob0> For relay_recipient_maps Postfix only cares that something is returned. The result does not matter. ldap_table(5) documents the Postfix side of setting up a query, but questions about the schema and LDAP particulars might get better answers elsewhere.
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[00:19:46] <TehRabbitt-Work> in my restricted_senders list, is there a way I can put a wildcard to select all users? rather than listing every user individually?
[00:19:55] <TehRabbitt-Work> such as * at mydomain dot com
[00:20:03] <kyconquers> thanks rob0 i'm looking at http://www.postfix.org/ldap_table.5.html, i'm trying to look to see if there is a (member=%u) attribute for a cn=%d,dc=example,dc=com
[00:21:15] <TehRabbitt-Work> how would I use a wildcard?
[00:21:30] <TehRabbitt-Work> ??
[00:21:54] <kyconquers> http://pastebin.com/b8K7ppV0 I thought that this would work but "%d" in search base is not being rewriten as the domain
[00:22:23] <TehRabbitt-Work> i've tried * at mydomain dot com but it says that it's Server configuration error when I try to send a message
[00:22:32] <TehRabbitt-Work> it works fine if i list the email addresses
[00:22:43] <TehRabbitt-Work> but since there are over 100 emails, there's gotta be an easier way
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[00:23:46] <kyconquers> TehRabbitt-Work, you could try using a database like ldap or mysql
[00:24:09] <Mahmoud> hello - kinda off-topic, but i think you are the right guys: which mail client do you recommend for speed and security
[00:24:09] <kyconquers> and having a map for that data base.
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[00:25:31] <TehRabbitt-Work> kyconquers: so no way to do it without using mysql or ldap?
[00:26:57] <kyconquers> TehRabbitt-Work, if you want to let every address with a @example.com be accepted then, i'm sure there is another way.
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[00:29:13] <kyconquers> TehRabbitt-Work, http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html look for the section titled "Postfix virtual ALIAS example: separate domains, UNIX system accounts" the catch-all address may suit your needs.
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[00:38:42] <kyconquers> rob0 I tried http://pastebin.com/t2aA75Cf as well. Same affect.
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[00:44:32] <Mahmoud> any mail client you guys recommend? (minimalist, secure, resonable usability)
[00:45:17] <kreign> Mahmoud, alpine
[00:45:28] <kreign> some poeple like mutt.
[00:46:27] <kyconquers> Mahmoud, I use thunderbird but i'm not sure how it compares as being (minimalist).
[00:46:44] <Mahmoud> thunderbird is bloated imo, i'm sick of if atm.
[00:47:17] <Mahmoud> neat, alpine is also cli.
[00:47:28] <roe> Mahmoud, what platform?
[00:47:37] <Mahmoud> linux
[00:47:43] <roe> mutt
[00:47:48] <kreign> yeaaars ago I used slypheed http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
[00:48:00] <kreign> Mahmoud, there's also eudora, which is now open source. nfi if it works on linux.
[00:48:55] <kreign> I love tbird, personally. especially with the sieve extension.
[00:55:17] <seekwill> Outlook :)
[00:55:37] <Mahmoud> outlook is cute. it opens images by default (leaking your location/ip)
[00:55:46] <seekwill> No it doesn't
[00:55:51] <seekwill> At least not on my mac
[00:57:23] <seekwill> "To protect your privacy, some pictures in this messages were not downloaded. [Download pictures]"
[00:57:30] <seekwill> In this message... sorry
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[01:21:41] <StuckMojo> thanks for the help folks, postscreen seems to be working well.
[01:21:45] <StuckMojo> ciao
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[01:57:34] <Mahmoud> roe: how do you open multiple mail box accounts (if you do). i'm considering running multiple mutt instances each with a differnet .muttrc file (e.g. mutt -F ~/./muttrc_mbox1)
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[02:03:01] <kreign> Mahmoud, you mean at the IMAP level?
[02:03:06] <kreign> or with local directory access?
[02:03:36] <Mahmoud> kinda both. should i use another software to do the imap thingy?
[02:04:41] <kreign> shared folders exist for cyrus, and you can do something similar with dovecot, i believe.
[02:04:57] <kreign> using aliases and sieve is probably a better/less complicated option, imo.
[02:05:25] <Mahmoud> what about listing the emails? will they all be listed as if they were from the same mail account, and that i should use my eagle-vision to look at from:?
[02:07:56] <kreign> i don't understand the question.
[02:08:56] <Mahmoud> kreign: since i'm a newbie in mutt, and since this #postfix, i moved to #mutt to avoid spamming this channel with my off-topic question
[02:10:27] <kreign> cool.
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[03:17:56] <josedb> is there any chance that anyone have a guide for using postfix as email client?
[03:22:56] <seekwill> heh
[03:35:55] <lunaphyte_> postfix isn't an email client, so no.
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[03:38:17] <josedb> i want to send systems emails using an external email server with ssl
[03:38:34] <josedb> for example, @gmail.com
[03:39:47] <josedb> ive been reading all day about these, i manage to configure postfix, and finally i got this error "delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with mail.dulkre.com.ar[209.217.226.61] while receiving the initial server greeting"
[03:40:09] <jimpop> https://mail.google.com
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[04:06:31] <osmosis> what should I have in /etc/mailname ?
[04:06:44] <osmosis> how is it different from myhostname =
[04:09:00] <jimpop> /etc/mailname is debian specific, and used for MUAs, not the MTA
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[04:16:49] <thumbs> bloody debian
[04:17:29] <lunaphyte_> is there some reference somewhere that makes a correlation between that file and postfix?
[04:20:20] <rob0> !debian
[04:20:20] <knoba> rob0: "debian" : Please see /usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian for Debian-specific information. This probably applies to Ubuntu and most other Debian-derivative distributions as well.
[04:20:47] <rob0> I think it is their default $myorigin
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[04:30:03] <jimpop> well, README.Debian doesn't mention mailname. probably should update the factoid to mention "man 5 mailname"
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[04:32:19] <rob0> hmmm
[04:33:14] <jimpop> !learn mailname as The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. "man 5 mailname" Also see: !debian
[04:33:20] <jimpop> !mailname
[04:33:20] <knoba> jimpop: "mailname" : The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. man 5 mailname Also see: !debian
[04:41:40] <jimpop> knoba: how do I use quote marks?
[04:41:53] <jimpop> lol
[04:42:13] <rob0> heh, signum can do it, but I don't think we can.
[04:42:21] <lunaphyte_> oh, yeah, that's a tough one.
[04:42:33] <lunaphyte_> i figured it out once, but it was a hassle
[04:42:44] <lunaphyte_> !forget mailname
[04:42:54] <jimpop> !learn mailname as The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. \"man 5 mailname\" Also see: !debian
[04:43:00] <jimpop> !mailname
[04:43:00] <knoba> jimpop: "mailname" : The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. \"man 5 mailname\" Also see: !debian
[04:43:11] <jimpop> well, that works partially
[04:43:24] <rob0> try "" or """
[04:43:32] <jimpop> !forget mailname
[04:43:41] <jimpop> !learn mailname as The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. ""man 5 mailname"" Also see: !debian
[04:43:42] <lunaphyte_> !learn ffoobarbaz as foo \\"bar\\"
[04:43:45] <lunaphyte_> !ffoobarbaz
[04:43:45] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "ffoobarbaz" : foo \\"bar\\"
[04:43:46] <jimpop> !mailname
[04:43:46] <thumbs> rob0 seems to be an expert at finding sql injection vectors
[04:43:46] <knoba> jimpop: "mailname" : The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. man 5 mailname"" Also see: !debian
[04:43:47] <lunaphyte_> meh
[04:43:54] <jimpop> !forget mailname
[04:43:55] <thumbs> rob0: find a flaw in the bot!
[04:43:57] <rob0> eww
[04:44:06] <lunaphyte_> !forget ffoobarbaz
[04:44:09] <jimpop> !learn mailname as The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. *man 5 mailname* Also see: !debian
[04:44:16] <jimpop> !mailname
[04:44:16] <knoba> jimpop: "mailname" : The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. *man 5 mailname* Also see: !debian
[04:44:19] <rob0> ha, that works
[04:44:23] <jimpop> yep
[04:44:33] <rob0> cheating tho!
[04:44:46] <lunaphyte_> !duplicates
[04:44:47] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "duplicates" : the following can be used to list redundant settings defined in main.cf: (postconf -d; postconf -n) | sort | uniq -d
[04:45:15] <lunaphyte_> there's one i did it in, but i can't remember now
[04:45:31] <lunaphyte_> !foobar
[04:45:31] <knoba> lunaphyte_: Error: "foobar" is not a valid command.
[04:45:44] <thumbs> !dupes
[04:45:44] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "dupes" is not a valid command.
[04:45:44] <lunaphyte_> !learn foobar as "foo \"bar\"
[04:45:45] <knoba> lunaphyte_: Error: No closing quotation
[04:45:46] <lunaphyte_> !foobar
[04:45:47] <knoba> lunaphyte_: Error: "foobar" is not a valid command.
[04:45:54] <lunaphyte_> oops
[04:45:57] <lunaphyte_> !learn foobar as "foo \"bar\""
[04:46:00] <lunaphyte_> !foobar
[04:46:00] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "foobar" : foo "bar"
[04:46:09] <lunaphyte_> ah, that was it
[04:46:51] <jimpop> !forget mailname
[04:47:15] <jimpop> !learn mailname as "The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. \"man 5 mailname\" Also see: !debian"
[04:47:20] <jimpop> !mailname
[04:47:20] <knoba> jimpop: "mailname" : The file /etc/mailname is a plain ASCII configuration file, which on a Debian system contains the visible mail name of the system. It is used by many different programs, usually programs that wish to send or relay mail, and need to know the name of the system. "man 5 mailname" Also see: !debian
[04:47:23] <jimpop> sweet
[04:47:28] <thumbs> !sweet
[04:47:29] <knoba> thumbs: "sweet" : http://sweet.nodns4.us/
[04:47:30] <jimpop> ty
[04:47:35] <jimpop> haha
[04:47:40] <lunaphyte_> no aye problema
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[05:02:24] <josedb> i manage to get postfix working with external email server. but i must send emails as the email adress and not aliases because it accuse me of phising
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[06:36:36] <draikx> I have followed the steps in this article >> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html << but I can't seem to get AUTH working for Postfix. Is there something that I overlooked? I also created a self-signed certificate, if that matters.
[06:37:02] <atossava> How specifically does it not work?
[06:37:12] <atossava> Can you for example pastebin the error messages from the mail log?
[06:44:19] <draikx> When I test 'telnet server 25', it doesn't give me the AUTH
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[06:46:35] <draikx> Going to try SMTP connection from my mail client for errors in mail.log
[06:48:06] <danblack> are you expecting an auth over an unencrypted connection? try openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connnect {host}:{port} port can be 25 for 587
[06:48:44] <draikx> Here is the error message I get in Thunderbird...
[06:48:54] <draikx> The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server mail.server.com failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify that your SMTP server settings are correct and try again, or contact the server administrator.
[06:49:09] <draikx> danblack: Going to try that.
[06:49:24] <danblack> !submission
[06:49:25] <knoba> danblack: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf
[06:49:46] <danblack> !port25block
[06:49:46] <knoba> danblack: Error: "port25block" is not a valid command.
[06:50:01] <danblack> you isp could be blocking port 25 outbound too.
[06:52:06] <jimpop> !port25
[06:52:06] <knoba> jimpop: "port25" : The MAAWG recommendations on managing port 25/tcp traffic: http://www.maawg.org/port25/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf
[06:54:07] <draikx> danblack: I can send out via 25
[06:54:12] <draikx> I'm having an auth issue
[06:54:21] <draikx> Locally, I can send out email.
[06:54:56] <lunaphyte_> telnet server 25 shouldn't give you auth. that's normal.
[06:55:13] <danblack> !logs
[06:55:13] <knoba> danblack: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /path/to/syslog_config_file should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung
[06:55:24] <lunaphyte_> auth is done using the submission protocol. that's port 587
[06:55:59] <danblack> draikx: need more information including config and logs if you want further help. we can't guess what you've done or what errors you're seeing
[06:56:49] <draikx> lunaphyte_: You're right. I missed this. I didn't "ehlo..." so I never saw the AUTH LOGIN PLAIN message.
[06:57:01] <draikx> But now I need to figure out why I can't auth.
[06:57:03] <lunaphyte_> eh?
[06:57:18] <draikx> 250-STARTTLS
[06:57:18] <draikx> 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
[06:57:19] <draikx> 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
[06:57:20] <lunaphyte_> you should not see auth on port 25, regardless of it you ehlo or helo.
[06:57:29] <draikx> I see those when I ehlo
[06:57:42] <lunaphyte_> then your server is misconfigured.
[06:57:47] <draikx> :(
[06:57:56] <draikx> I'll go ahead and nuke postfix right now
[06:58:09] <thumbs> great idea!
[06:58:12] <lunaphyte_> additionally, do no use the login mech. that's non standard and long since deprecated.
[06:58:32] <lunaphyte_> and lastly, auth should not be offered until after starttls has been performed.
[06:58:45] <lunaphyte_> but start with getting auth set up on the proper port - submission, not smtp.
[06:59:11] <draikx> I've been following this >> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[06:59:12] <lunaphyte_> !tell draikx submission
[06:59:12] <knoba> draikx: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf
[06:59:15] <draikx> Is there a better document?
[06:59:24] <lunaphyte_> you're joking, right?
[06:59:39] <draikx> Nope.
[06:59:44] <lunaphyte_> is that web site maintained by the authors of postfix?
[06:59:49] <thumbs> draikx: that's possibly the worst document you could read on the subject.
[06:59:57] <lunaphyte_> who maintains that web site? are the experienced email admins?
[07:00:00] <lunaphyte_> *they
[07:00:27] <draikx> OK, so that answers my question.
[07:01:27] <draikx> !topic
[07:01:27] <knoba> draikx: "topic" : The Postfix MTA || See !debug and provide a pastebin URL of relevant logs and postconf -n output before asking questions / check your logs / know your unix basics || On using IRC: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc || Bot info: http://workaround.org/f=postfix || Channel log: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?postfix
[07:01:46] <lunaphyte_> there are lots of things floating around out there written by plenty of people, most of whom should not be writing such documents. nonetheless, we don't support them here. however, we DO support with vigor the documentation for the software.
[07:05:10] <thumbs> lunaphyte_: ah, I just conquered jQuery.
[07:05:27] <lunaphyte_> fun
[07:09:20] <lunaphyte_> it's 1 am and i'm at work
[07:09:39] <thumbs> same here!
[07:09:53] <thumbs> lunaphyte_: I'm been working until 3AM every day of this year!
[07:09:58] <lunaphyte_> dude
[07:10:00] <thumbs> can I cry now?
[07:10:35] <lunaphyte_> i think maybe we share a similar motivation trait, but that's not healthy!
[07:11:19] <thumbs> not at all.
[07:11:40] <thumbs> on the positive side, I have now finished the dynamic css portion of my app, and it's browser agnostic.
[07:12:10] <lunaphyte_> neat
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[07:15:47] <thumbs> I wrote a dhtml calendar by hand, with custom filters.
[07:16:12] <thumbs> I wished I used jQuery to build it, however.
[07:16:15] <lunaphyte_> you have a sickness :)
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[07:16:47] <thumbs> that's what other folks told me too.
[07:17:07] <thumbs> every god damn code on the net was inadequate. I had to start from almost nothing.
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[07:18:49] <thumbs> it's either it had months / year filters, or time filters. Not both.
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[07:19:06] <thumbs> and most had lots of severe bugs.
[07:19:11] <thumbs> </rant>
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[07:29:17] <draikx> Seems that reinstalling Postfix fixed the authing issue (maybe), but I can't send mail to my Gmail account.
[07:29:20] <draikx> An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 <me at gmail dot com>:
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[07:29:33] <draikx> Relay access denied. Please check the message recipient me at gmail dot com and try again.
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[07:45:24] <thumbs> !relay_denied
[07:45:24] <knoba> thumbs: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[07:45:28] <thumbs> !gmail
[07:45:28] <knoba> thumbs: "gmail" : Google Mail issues?: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=81126
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[08:51:21] <osmosis> how can I troubleshoot imapd-ssl: LOGIN FAILED
[08:52:24] <osmosis> turn up the debug level?
[08:52:34] <_ruben> postfix doesn't do imap
[08:52:38] <osmosis> no warnings or errors coming up
[08:52:41] <osmosis> _ruben, ok
[08:53:51] <ceraphin> what do you use osmosis courier, dovecot, cyrus for imap?
[08:53:56] <osmosis> courier
[08:54:02] <osmosis> new install
[08:54:12] <osmosis> setup with mysql virtual domains too
[08:54:33] <ceraphin> so you should look about looking to debug courier
[08:54:44] <ceraphin> postfix is not used for imap loogin
[08:54:51] <ceraphin> loggin
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[08:55:01] <osmosis> ceraphin, im testing via imap...but i think its more likely my postfix mail accounts
[08:55:08] <osmosis> and postfix config connecting to mysql
[08:55:18] <ceraphin> both connecting to mysql
[08:55:31] <osmosis> all the config i setup was in /etc/postfix
[08:55:42] <osmosis> mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
[08:55:49] <ceraphin> normaly you should have config a part in courier
[08:55:56] <ceraphin> otherwise it's normal
[08:55:59] <ceraphin> it don't work
[08:56:06] <osmosis> right
[08:56:19] <ceraphin> in courier you should have something like
[08:56:20] <ceraphin> authmysqlrc
[08:56:25] <osmosis> and i see ... MYSQL_PASSWORD thepassword
[08:56:30] <osmosis> i never change it
[08:56:33] <osmosis> changed
[08:56:46] <ceraphin> XD
[08:57:03] <ceraphin> look for all the config for courier because your problem is there
[08:57:26] <osmosis> ha
[08:58:46] <ceraphin> ok hope you will find your way have to go
[08:58:49] <ceraphin> good luck
[08:58:51] <ceraphin> +
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[09:26:11] <osmosis> this postfix mysql setup isnt working. maybe im going about this wrong. for virtual domains, should I just be using Maildir?
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[09:39:10] <pj> maildir is good, and why did you choose courier for your IMAPd
[09:39:11] <pj> ?
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[09:55:31] <Ceraphin> Hi All
[09:56:26] <pj> !tell Ceraphin welcome
[09:56:26] <knoba> Ceraphin: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
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[11:55:13] <wild_oscar> hey. is any of you guys proficient in Sieve rules? I'd like something like http://pastebin.com/NLnaqDnU
[11:55:23] <wild_oscar> ie, to change the top into the bottom
[11:56:56] <sep> wild_oscar, sorry no. i use avelsieve.
[11:59:16] <wild_oscar> sep: oh. what does it do? does it let you create rules in squirrelmail and converts it to sieve rules?
[11:59:37] <wild_oscar> sep: ie, will it work only when accessing through squirrelmail, or will it work in the server directly?
[11:59:41] <sep> it's a web based rule editor yes
[11:59:53] <sep> as a squirrel plugin so it require squirrel
[12:00:34] <wild_oscar> sep: so rules will only be applied when using web mail, not when using another IMAP client, right?
[12:01:04] <sep> my sieve rules are effected by the dovecot delivery (when mail is recived by the server)
[12:01:17] <sep> does not matter what klient you use.
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[12:03:26] <wild_oscar> oh, ok. have to check that, might be useful
[12:03:52] <wild_oscar> in the meantime, if somenone could help me out with rules created by hand: http://pastebin.com/NLnaqDnU
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[12:06:26] <osmosis> im stuck on SASL authentification. getting, postfix/smtpd[16018]: warning: SASL authentication failure: incorrect digest response
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[12:15:41] <leberknecht> hi, one question: does anyone know what "X-Antivirus-Code: 0x100000" in a mail header means? i googled it but found nothing...i just need to know if this code marks a mail as spam or not
[12:21:12] <nido> X-Antivirus-Code seems to be from Dr.Web antivirus, which is a commercial antivirus product. I suggest you consult them about the mailheaders they add
[12:23:37] <leberknecht> aye! thx for that hint :)
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[12:30:22] <nido> wild_oscar: I believe one can do something like if allof( address :is "From" "trac at itc dot com", anyof( header :contains "subject" "[ITC Management]", header :contains "Subject" "Jenkins build",)); however, you could also consider making two blocks, one for Jenkins, one for [ict management]
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[12:32:41] <wild_oscar> nido: yeah, I had something like that...but realised the second *of should be alloff too, as I have "not header"s inside
[12:32:50] <wild_oscar> let me try it...
[12:33:06] <nido> wild_oscar: good luck. I'll be offline
[12:33:24] <wild_oscar> cheers
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[13:23:37] <xinming> hmm, Sorry to ask a non-postfix related question, But since it's mail related, What do you prefer? getmail or fetchmail? and why please?
[13:31:43] <Aprogas> !tell xinming fetchmail
[13:31:43] <knoba> xinming: "fetchmail" : a command-line tool to fetch emails from POP3/IMAP servers and send them to a (local) mail server
[13:31:46] <Aprogas> !tell xinming getmail
[13:31:46] <knoba> xinming: "getmail" : getmail(1) has a more sane design than fetchmail(1). Handing already-delivered mail off to a MTA always seemed silly to me.
[13:32:21] <Aprogas> I agree with the opinion in the getmail factoid.
[13:33:58] <xinming> knoba: thanks
[13:34:02] <xinming> Aprogas: thanks
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[13:43:38] <jelly> knoba has opinions!
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[13:48:06] <ncopa> hi
[13:48:25] <ncopa> does anyone have a dynamic-maps patch for postfix-2.9.0?
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[14:09:20] <Patplu> Hi
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[14:12:08] <Patplu> I set mynetworks with a cidr_table and authorize a subnetwork, for example 192.168.2.0/24 but I want to deny an IP from this. I tried adding "192.168.2.3 REJECT" in the beginning or end of the table but it doesn't work, this IP can still connect to postfix. What am I doing wrong ?
[14:14:22] <Ceraphin> Hi
[14:15:04] <ncopa> i have a dynamic-maps patch for postfix in case anybody is interested
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[14:16:27] <Ceraphin> Question : Did someone know why when i received email for user which are not defined in my database (exemple at emxemple dot org) postfix still accept the email and create the directory?
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[14:17:24] <Section1> Ceraphin, i recommend you to check the cnannel opic
[14:17:29] <Section1> topic*
[14:18:03] <Ceraphin> !debug
[14:18:04] <knoba> Ceraphin: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/
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[14:21:22] <Ceraphin> http://pastebin.ca/2109320 that's the log
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[14:22:53] <Ceraphin> http://pastebin.ca/2109321
[14:22:56] <Ceraphin> and my conf
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[14:27:55] <Ceraphin> OMG i find my self my stupidity here
[14:27:56] <Ceraphin> XD
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[14:30:45] <Section1> which ?
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[14:32:55] <Ceraphin> think it's because root is a local account but not sure
[14:35:15] <Section1> try with asdasdasdasd at domain dot com
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[14:40:09] <Ceraphin> it create it
[14:40:13] <Ceraphin> Damned
[14:40:18] <Ceraphin> that's not local
[14:41:51] <Ceraphin> Section1: any idear...?
[14:47:32] <Section1> maybe its vurtual_transport = dovecot
[14:47:37] <Section1> virtual*
[14:48:10] <Section1> but not 100% sure ...maybe someone here can confirm it
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[14:49:27] <lorimar> could really use some help. we have 2 postfix servers. our main mail server and another server that handles spam filtering. when I came in this morning, the spam filtering system had this in its maillogs: "fatal: open database /etc/postfix/example_etc_aliases.db: Invalid argument"
[14:49:41] <lorimar> and no external email is reaching the internal mail server
[14:49:54] <roe> pastebin it
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[14:50:57] <lorimar> http://pastebin.com/kGida4nc
[14:51:20] <roe> and your config and the contents of that file
[14:52:08] <Ceraphin> Section1: why virtual_transport=dovecot
[14:52:09] <Ceraphin> ?
[14:53:01] <lorimar> http://pastebin.com/hRjXDGqy
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[14:54:01] <roe> lorimar, I don't see that file used anywhere
[14:54:12] <lorimar> sorry, i changed the name of it in the log file
[14:54:22] <lorimar> it is hedwig_etc_aliases
[14:56:11] <roe> and the contents of the file
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[14:57:03] <lorimar> sent it privately to you since it has a lot of email addresses in it
[14:57:08] <lorimar> sorry, paranoid
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[15:01:48] <roe> lorimar, move that file out of the way and postmap an empty version of that file and restart postifx
[15:03:09] <Section1> Ceraphin, or maybe its falling virtual_mailbox_maps
[15:04:36] <Section1> its the table to check valid addresses
[15:05:00] <lorimar> roe: all set. there was an error on the other email server that was causing the problem
[15:05:03] <lorimar> thanks for your help
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[15:09:23] <Ceraphin> yeah checked and good
[15:09:24] <Ceraphin> ... :s
[15:10:34] <Ceraphin> postmap -q root at test dot net mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf
[15:10:37] <Ceraphin> give nothing
[15:11:04] <Ceraphin> but with a good email it's ok
[15:11:21] <Ceraphin> ... really don't understand
[15:15:12] <Ceraphin> query = SELECT email FROM virtual_users WHERE email='%s'
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[15:16:12] <roe> that query doesn't really make sense
[15:16:37] <roe> ohcibi, nm it's for mailbox maps
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[15:16:42] <roe> oh*
[15:19:18] <Ceraphin> Section1: any idear?
[15:20:00] <Section1> nop
[15:20:02] <Section1> sorry
[15:20:18] <Ceraphin> damned ...
[15:20:20] <Ceraphin> :s
[15:20:38] <Section1> i don't have similar setup
[15:20:50] <Ceraphin> you don't used mysql?
[15:21:11] <Section1> now im using zimbra.
[15:21:16] <Section1> its use ldap
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[15:21:38] <Ceraphin> i like zimbra but i can't afford to have a dedicated server for it
[15:22:06] <lunaphyte_> Ceraphin: i don't understand what problem you're trying to solve. the postfix logs you pastebinned don't show any problem.
[15:22:56] <Ceraphin> yeah the problem is when you send a mail to a non existant account to my mail server
[15:23:03] <Ceraphin> he create the directory
[15:23:17] <lunaphyte_> ah, i see
[15:23:19] <Ceraphin> for this non-existant user
[15:23:30] <Ceraphin> so it's normal there is no error XD
[15:24:03] <Ceraphin> have any idear?
[15:24:30] <Ceraphin> (i have follow this tutorial
[15:24:31] <Ceraphin> http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze
[15:26:59] <lunaphyte_> do a test email to a non existent user [but not root], and pastebin *only* postfix logs showing the delivery
[15:27:27] <Section1> Ceraphin, postmap -q john at example dot org mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf whats gets ?
[15:27:39] <Section1> or non existetn user.
[15:27:58] <Ceraphin> nothins
[15:28:01] <Ceraphin> nothing
[15:28:20] <Ceraphin> that's what you have on pastbin
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[15:30:13] <Section1> an with a valid user you get 1 ?
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[15:31:53] <Ceraphin> non i get the email of the user
[15:32:00] <Ceraphin> don't really like the 1 idear
[15:32:15] <Ceraphin> (have tried both it's change nothing)
[15:33:15] <lunaphyte_> do a test email to a non existent user [but not root], and pastebin *only* postfix logs showing the delivery
[15:33:47] <Ceraphin> ok
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[15:36:21] <Ceraphin> http://pastebin.ca/2109363
[15:36:24] <Ceraphin> here it is
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[15:39:38] <gionnico> Hi!
[15:40:01] <lunaphyte_> adddadad at XXXXXXX dot net is the non existent user
[15:40:19] <gionnico> What are the options that I should use to make my postfix server very mild?
[15:40:21] <Ceraphin> yes
[15:40:51] <gionnico> i'd like it to delay everything quite much and accept very few connections at a time. so that it won't spam
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[15:43:46] <Ceraphin> any idear lunaphyte
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[15:47:11] <lunaphyte_> pastebin postmap -q 'adddadad at XXXXXXX dot net' mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf, postmap -q 'adddadad at XXXXXXX dot net' mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf, and postmap -q 'adddadad at XXXXXXX dot net' mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf
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[15:48:56] <Ceraphin> Nothing
[15:49:06] <gionnico> is $default_destination_rate_delay to make postfix only send 1 mail / that delay?
[15:49:13] <gionnico> or i need more to make that hard limit?
[15:49:15] <Ceraphin> it give nothing so
[15:49:49] <gionnico> i have accumulated quite much (deferred) mails and wouldn't like postfix to flood all of them in a short time
[15:49:58] <gionnico> rather to digest them, sending one per time. quite long time.
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[15:51:32] <Ceraphin> lunaphyte_ can't pastbin nulll
[15:53:46] <patdk-wk> hmm
[15:53:59] <patdk-wk> postscreen keeps bombing out everytime I update my hash file
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[15:55:49] <patdk-wk> guess I really need to change that to a dnsrbl instead of a hash file :(
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[15:57:46] <roe> patdk-wk, are you maintaining a local blacklist file in a bdb?
[15:58:00] <patdk-wk> yep, or was attempting to
[15:58:05] <abrawass> Hi there
[15:58:07] <roe> why?
[15:58:19] <patdk-wk> why not?
[15:58:29] <roe> because it adds more work for you for no real gain
[15:58:36] <patdk-wk> why does it add more work?
[15:58:43] <patdk-wk> I don't need to maintain it at all
[15:58:56] <roe> well for one, you seem to be having problems with postscreen
[15:59:14] <patdk-wk> problems with postscreen doesn't make it my issue
[15:59:17] <patdk-wk> looks like a bug
[15:59:24] <patdk-wk> updating a hash file shouldn't CRASH a program
[15:59:29] <roe> that is true
[15:59:44] <patdk-wk> the issue is
[15:59:49] <patdk-wk> postscreen sees it updated, and restarts
[15:59:56] <abrawass> Hey guys, was wandering if something was possible ... can I explain it ?
[16:00:01] <patdk-wk> then everything that was using it, bitchs that the sockets vanished
[16:00:12] <patdk-wk> the map file was getting updated once per min
[16:00:35] <patdk-wk> and I wasn't receiving mail, cause it was causing the smtp connections to die if they lasted over that update time
[16:00:51] <patdk-wk> this hash file is based of a grep of my logs, so no real maintance for me
[16:01:48] <patdk-wk> guess I need to change it to like a dnsrbl with a 200second ttl
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[16:02:43] <patdk-wk> I did fix my hash updater to only update if something actually changes now
[16:02:46] <roe> patdk-wk, have you tried using a db instead of a hash?
[16:02:49] <patdk-wk> but that is happening about every 3/4min
[16:03:00] <patdk-wk> nope
[16:03:07] <patdk-wk> just so much work for me to shove it into a db
[16:03:14] <patdk-wk> dnsrbl would be easier
[16:03:16] <roe> sqlite is pretty easy
[16:03:28] <patdk-wk> not when the info is spread over 4 servers
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[16:03:47] <roe> let me rephrase, sqlite is as easy as a hash
[16:04:11] <patdk-wk> hmm
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[16:05:56] <patdk-wk> how do I check what types are supported?
[16:06:05] <lunaphyte_> postconf -m
[16:06:22] <patdk-wk> ah, good, this wasn't a hacked build :)
[16:06:57] <patdk-wk> go more evil and use texthash?
[16:07:48] <roe> I think the problem you're running into is related to the fact that hashes weren't meant to be frequently updated
[16:08:01] <patdk-wk> ya :(
[16:08:08] <patdk-wk> I normally don't update them often
[16:08:14] <patdk-wk> just was convenitent for this instance
[16:08:22] <patdk-wk> till I had time to do it correctly
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[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> lunaphyte_: btree
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> cidr
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> environ
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> hash
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> internal
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> mysql
[16:11:14] <Ceraphin> nis
[16:11:15] <Ceraphin> proxy
[16:11:15] <Ceraphin> regexp
[16:11:16] <Ceraphin> sdbm
[16:11:16] <Ceraphin> static
[16:11:17] <Ceraphin> tcp
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[16:17:19] <thumbs> Ceraphin: stop?
[16:18:13] <Ceraphin> stop what?
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[16:29:41] <patdk-wk> there, made a hash -> sqlite awk script
[16:30:46] <Belial_> I have a bunch of emails stuck in my mailq that I cannot get to send. They are trying to send to a gmail smtp server but they always timeout. I use kmail as my mail app and it isn't setup to send via gmail's smtp servers, just yahoo's, so I am not sure why the queue is loaded with apparently unsendable emails. Where might postfix be getting the config setting to try gmail smtp servers?
[16:33:06] <thumbs> Ceraphin: flooding the channel.
[16:33:23] <Ceraphin> ah sorry thumbs
[16:33:29] <Ceraphin> was not done for doing it
[16:36:23] <Belial_> I do not understand this. Here is one of my my mailq output lines: 6B3502431C 3978 Fri Feb 3 10:34:49 MAILER-DAEMON
[16:36:23] <Belial_> (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[173.194.69.27]:25: Connection timed out
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[16:37:12] <Belial_> I have tried flushing or deleting the queue multiple times but it keeps getting these failed deliveries in it anyway but I am not setup anywhere that I can find to send via google's smtp servers!
[16:40:12] <patdk-wk> roe, sqlite isn't working much better
[16:40:16] <patdk-wk> postscreen doesn't crash
[16:40:28] <patdk-wk> but it kills the connection on sqlite db locked
[16:44:11] <Belial_> I'm also seeing a message in my syslogs thus: "postfix/smtpd[24189]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from stonekeep.ravenhome.net[127.0.0.1]: 552 5.3.4 Message size exceeds fixed limit" but "postfix -n" doesn't display anything regarding a size limit.
[16:44:46] <patdk-wk> roe, nope postscreen just crashed on sqlite
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[16:57:29] <Ceraphin> did someone use sasl/stmp.conf with a mysql db?
[16:58:04] <Dominian> what is that for? crourier?
[16:58:06] <Dominian> er.. courier?
[16:58:18] <Ceraphin> for postfix
[16:58:35] <Dominian> sasl/smtp.conf is not postfix
[17:01:03] <patdk-wk> there switched to mysql, and no more issues
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[17:03:28] <Bheam> hlep
[17:03:38] <Bheam> someone is abusing my mail server for spam :(
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[17:03:50] <Dominian> Misconfiguration problem most likely
[17:03:56] <Dominian> !welcome
[17:03:56] <knoba> Dominian: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
[17:05:20] <Bheam> aaargh
[17:05:30] <Dominian> If you want help, provide what weask for.
[17:05:43] <Bheam> http://pastebin.com/7wauu1ac
[17:06:37] <Dominian> and how do you know they are using you for spam?
[17:07:30] <Bheam> mailqueue full of 100000000s of messages and massive complaints
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[17:08:58] <Dominian> are you using sasl/submission?
[17:09:18] <Bheam> not sure
[17:09:23] <Bheam> how can i tell
[17:09:27] <Dominian> !submission
[17:09:27] <knoba> Dominian: "submission" : Port 587 is submission, for user submission of mail, NOT suitable for mail exchange. See the commented example in master.cf. also see !msa, and rfc 6409. Also read http://www.maawg.org/sites/maawg/files/news/MAAWG_Port25rec0511.pdf
[17:09:29] <Dominian> !sasl
[17:09:29] <knoba> Dominian: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[17:09:31] <Bheam> i've enabled submission
[17:09:48] <Dominian> judging from your postconf -n you have sasl enabled
[17:10:03] <Bheam> how can i tell if sasl is enabled for submission?
[17:10:08] <Dominian> hrm
[17:10:11] <Dominian> I see a big issue rght now
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[17:10:19] <Dominian> You are doing zero rbl checks
[17:10:32] <Dominian> what versionf of postfix is this?
[17:12:12] <Bheam> trying to chek
[17:12:30] <patdk-wk> this is an user submitted email only?
[17:12:31] <Dominian> postconf | grep mail_version
[17:12:32] <Section1> maybe a spammer have an user/password
[17:12:47] <Dominian> I haven't ruled that out Section1
[17:12:53] <Dominian> but not having rbl checks is bad
[17:13:05] <Section1> yes
[17:13:12] <Dominian> and guarantee most of what he's seeing is because of that
[17:13:17] <patdk-wk> to me, that smtpd_recipient_restrictions is pretty bland for internet accessable email
[17:13:23] <Dominian> if you're using a rpretty recent version of postfix you could also implement postscreen
[17:13:28] <Dominian> patdk-wk: yep
[17:13:35] <Dominian> http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/doaBeK83.html
[17:13:38] <patdk-wk> that basically says, accept everything, and wait till you have enough cpu power for amavis/spamass/clamav
[17:13:46] <Dominian> Thre's what I suggeset to do for smtpd_recipient_restrictions and to use postscreen
[17:14:06] <Dominian> that should cover 99% of the problem
[17:14:08] <Bheam> how can i tell what account the spammers are using?
[17:14:14] <Dominian> Bheam: First off.. stop
[17:14:17] <Dominian> One issue at a time
[17:14:22] <patdk-wk> check the email headers, if you add auth info
[17:14:25] <Dominian> we need to fix your smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[17:14:31] <Dominian> patdk-wk: he does
[17:14:34] <patdk-wk> just select some random email in your queue, and postcat
[17:14:38] <Dominian> smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
[17:14:51] <patdk-wk> if it looks like spam, reset the password on that account
[17:15:02] <Dominian> IF it was sent from an account that's authing
[17:15:04] <patdk-wk> then work on cleaning those emails from the queue
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[17:15:11] <Dominian> it could be spammers just pushing spam through port 25 to domains he manages
[17:15:16] <patdk-wk> yep
[17:15:28] <Dominian> and the way smtpd_recipient_restrictions is setup.. NO rbl checks are happening
[17:15:28] <patdk-wk> if not a user outgoing
[17:15:35] <patdk-wk> but incoming, well, you need a better config :)
[17:15:39] <Dominian> yes
[17:15:43] <lunaphyte_> plug the hole before you start bailing out the boat.
[17:15:49] <Dominian> Bheam: In your main.cf
[17:15:58] <patdk-wk> lunaphyteyep, but we need to know what hole to plug first :)
[17:16:00] <Dominian> Bheam: remove your smtpd_recipient_restrictions and replace it with this: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/doaBeK83.html
[17:16:03] <patdk-wk> looking for the largest leak :)
[17:16:06] <lunaphyte_> :)
[17:16:08] <Dominian> Bheam: then postfix reload
[17:16:11] <Bheam> well
[17:16:18] <lunaphyte_> lunaphyteyep!
[17:16:24] <Dominian> lunaphyte_: lol
[17:16:29] <Dominian> lunaphyte_: Hey did you get your VPS issue sorted out?
[17:16:32] <Bheam> as long as i have auth, why does rbl matter? (except if someone brute forced a password)
[17:16:45] <Dominian> Bheam: You need to do RBL checks on incoming email to port 25
[17:16:58] <lunaphyte_> Dominian: what was my vps issue?
[17:17:06] <Dominian> lunaphyte_: the CPU usagr eor someting// high load average stuff?
[17:17:10] <lunaphyte_> ohoh, the vmware squid stuff?
[17:17:13] <Dominian> yes yes
[17:17:14] <Dominian> that
[17:17:16] <lunaphyte_> yeah, thanks.
[17:17:23] <Dominian> what did it turn out to be?
[17:17:24] <lunaphyte_> it was swapping big time.
[17:17:28] <Dominian> haha
[17:17:32] <Dominian> memory over utilization?
[17:17:50] <lunaphyte_> yeah
[17:17:55] <Bheam> how do i use postcat?
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[17:17:59] <Dominian> Bheam: just do what I ask and replace that smtpd_recipient_restrictions with the stuff I just pastbinned you above.
[17:18:09] <Dominian> lunaphyte_: figures
[17:18:13] <Dominian> squid is a monster with memory
[17:18:18] <Dominian> especially if you do it for a large site
[17:19:11] <lunaphyte_> it's got 8gb now, and seems to be doing better, so far.
[17:19:19] <lunaphyte_> we'll see though over time.
[17:19:31] <lunaphyte_> i'm not entirely convinced it was the fundamental issue
[17:20:00] * Dominian nods
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[17:20:20] <Dominian> hrm looks like upgrading dovecto from 1.x to 2.x won't be as challenging as I thought
[17:20:36] <lunaphyte_> we've been debating moving this service onto it's own computer and just going traditional.
[17:20:42] * Dominian nods
[17:20:51] <Dominian> Yeah in my experience web filtering should be ona dedicated machine
[17:21:00] <lunaphyte_> yeah.
[17:21:12] <Dominian> for smaller sites.. a VM would probably work ok
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[17:21:53] <lunaphyte_> i'm not surprised necessarily, i guess, but like to at least give it a shot.
[17:21:53] <lunaphyte_> i don't really think of us as terribly large, but i guess it's also a focal point in terms of traffic.
[17:23:18] <Bheam> Dominian: i've merged what ihave with what u pastebinned for smtpd_reciption_restrictions, without removing my mysql params
[17:23:42] <Bheam> Dominian: as for postscreen, i don't have any parameters like that, is that a plugin or what?
[17:23:52] <patdk-wk> what version of postfix you have?
[17:23:56] <patdk-wk> postscreen is only in 2.8.x
[17:23:57] <lunaphyte_> our daily access logs before compression seem to average around ~650 mb
[17:24:02] <Bheam> 2.3
[17:24:10] <patdk-wk> then you can't use postscreen
[17:24:17] <patdk-wk> postscreen just takes some of the load off smtpd
[17:24:26] <patdk-wk> not required, but can help
[17:25:13] <Bheam> well i believe someone must have brute forced a password on one account
[17:25:22] <Bheam> how can i tell which account is being used?
[17:25:31] <patdk-wk> postcat on an email in the queue
[17:25:32] <Bheam> i don't understand how postcat works,
[17:25:38] <patdk-wk> locate the file
[17:25:49] <Bheam> where is the queue located usually
[17:25:56] <patdk-wk> well, all yours are in the active queue right?
[17:26:05] <patdk-wk> normally, /var/spool/postfix/active
[17:26:11] <patdk-wk> I would just cd there
[17:26:20] <patdk-wk> then postcat xxxxxxxx | less
[17:26:46] <patdk-wk> if they are deferred emails, then you have to look in /var/spool/postfix/deferred/x/x/
[17:27:00] <patdk-wk> or however many levels deep you configured postfix to make it
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[17:29:35] <Bheam> argh
[17:29:39] <Bheam> think i found the account
[17:29:44] <Bheam> how can i clean the queue?
[17:29:58] <patdk-wk> postsuper
[17:30:03] <patdk-wk> but it's a bit annoying
[17:30:32] <patdk-wk> you really need some scripts to use postsuper on that level
[17:30:42] <Bheam> omg
[17:30:54] <Bheam> ls -lR|wc-l on deferred lists 100,000 files
[17:30:58] <Bheam> is that normal :po
[17:31:00] <Bheam> :p
[17:31:16] <patdk-wk> not bad, I have had higher, but mine go into the hold queue
[17:34:40] <Bheam> is there any way to just kill the entire queue?
[17:34:50] <patdk-wk> you don't want to
[17:34:54] <patdk-wk> your see your users bitch more
[17:35:06] <patdk-wk> google for something like, pfdel for postfix
[17:35:14] <Bheam> i'm got 100k spam emails in the queue :(
[17:38:24] <UQlev> Bheam: are they of domestic origin?
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[17:39:11] <thumbs> !postqueue
[17:39:11] <knoba> thumbs: "postqueue" : The postqueue(1) command implements the Postfix user interface for queue management. It implements operations that are traditionally available via the sendmail(1) command. See the postsuper(1) command for queue operations that require super-user privileges such as deleting a message from the queue or changing the status of a message.
[17:39:37] <Marian> my postfix server has sent out an error mail including a "transcript of session". This however includes also the AUTH PLAIN XXXXxxx line. is it possible to prevent this?
[17:41:48] <Bheam> UQlev: not sure what that means, i think i've confirmed they're all originating through the brute forcing of an account/password
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[17:42:34] <Bheam> the pfdel script, does it work on actual authenticated user email or only on whatever headers are stated in said email?
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[17:43:02] <Bheam> i'm running pfdel with the account email in question, but it's taking forever so don't know if it's working
[17:44:04] <Bheam> and if it works only on the headers stated in the email, it will have no effect since the spammers have forged everything
[17:45:52] <patdk-wk> forged everything is better
[17:45:59] <patdk-wk> it's easier to not delete ligit email :)
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[18:06:13] <ripratm> Is it possible to have basically 2 different $mynetworks (prob 2 different names) under smtpd_sender_restrictions
[18:07:24] <ripratm> ala if message hits is from X.X.X.X send automatically don't require any auth, but if IP is B.B.B.B have additional requiremens
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[18:13:41] <kreign> ripratm, I think you can do that but i'm not sure.
[18:16:34] <UQlev> ripratm: you may have many subnets under $mynetworks. What is your goal?
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[18:27:32] <ripratm> postfix is outbound smtp for most clients. we verify they are sending from valid email and addy and coming from our network. this works fine
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[18:27:56] <ripratm> exchange also routes outbound through us, which also works due to above requirements
[18:28:48] <ripratm> however NDR from exchange are sent from: <> which we do not validate. So what we are wanting to do is whitelist exchange so it doesn't do any valid senders check but we just send blindly.
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[18:31:34] <ripratm> however if we put exchange in our network above Jan 22 19:41:59 HORDE [debug] [imp] SQL Query by Prefs_sql::store(): INSif we place exchange in the $myworks and place it above the valid senders list, then that bypasses that check.
[18:31:51] <ripratm> sorry for that bad copy paste
[18:40:01] <UQlev> ripratm: I can't get it yet. In mynetworks you put IPs or range, it is irrelevant to return address <>
[18:43:15] <ripratm> yeah, I know, I'll strip some detail out. We do 2 checks, auth, and mynetwork. We do not want exchange to auth, but if we put $mynetworks above auth then nothing auths.
[18:44:13] <ripratm> all users will meet the $mynetwork requirement. So now we want 3 checks. 1) are you exchange...send away, 2) auth 3) $mynetwork
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[18:51:14] <UQlev> ripratm: why you can't add your exchange as 1.2.3.4/32? why should it let everyone go without auth?
[18:52:12] <UQlev> ripratm: or your exchange is on dynamic IP?
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[18:58:33] <ripratm> We have a big DB of all valid email addresses for our domain. So as long as your sending with a valid email from that DB your ok. Exchange though is sending its NDR as From: <> which is not in the DB so we are rejecting. So I want exchange allowed to send BEFORE the DB is checked.
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[19:16:16] <rob0> !tell ripratm access
[19:16:16] <knoba> ripratm: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.
[19:16:25] <rob0> !tell ripratm check_client_access
[19:16:25] <knoba> ripratm: "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise
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[20:13:37] <kisisten> hi, is zen.spamhaus.org down?
[20:15:10] <seekwill> omg! the spam!
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[20:17:50] <thumbs> seekwill: you can spam happily for hours, now!
[20:18:51] <seekwill> fear me!
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[20:20:53] <rob0> Feb 3 19:19:03 harrier postfix/dnsblog[3608]: addr 192.162.160.12 listed by domain zen
[20:20:56] <rob0> .spamhaus.org as 127.0.0.4
[20:21:06] <rob0> so no, spamhaus is fine
[20:21:13] <thumbs> you mirrored spamhaus!
[20:21:27] <rob0> I wish!
[20:21:32] <kisisten> i keep getting : postfix/smtpd[27903]: warning: xxx.yyy.zzz.ccc.zen.spamhaus.org: RBL lookup error: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=xxx.yyy.zzz.ccc.zen.spamhaus.org type=A: Host not found, try again
[20:21:54] <rob0> heh, what is the point in munging the lookup?
[20:22:00] <thumbs> kisisten: DNS issues on your end, perhaps.
[20:22:11] <thumbs> kisisten: either way, we can't tell what hostname it's trying to lookup.
[20:22:17] <kisisten> o yeah... bahh
[20:22:18] <rob0> Anyway, the most common cause is that you are using DNS forwarders.
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[20:22:38] <rob0> Google DNS, for example, is blocked by spamhaus.
[20:22:54] <rob0> as are many ISP resolvers.
[20:23:03] <thumbs> rob0: I wonder why.
[20:24:16] <rob0> Spamhaus wants to control access, and limit sites which exceed a certain number of queries. I think their blocking is semi-automated.
[20:25:45] <rob0> They do require commercial sites above a certain threshhold to pay for use. (Most small business sites would fall under this number, but most ISPs would exceed it.)
[20:26:01] <rob0> but don't take my word for it, see their web site.
[20:26:05] <rob0> !zen
[20:26:05] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL. Testing your DNSBL lookup can be done here: http://www.crynwr.com/spam/
[20:27:01] <thumbs> interesting.
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[20:40:40] <kisisten> hmm, still not working, I have a small mail server with 20 queries per day at most
[20:40:54] <kisisten> my DNS seems to be fine, I can resolve everyting
[20:41:14] <kisisten> s/everyting/everything
[20:43:37] <thumbs> kisisten: what's the literal entry from the log?
[20:43:51] <thumbs> kisisten: or perhaps, the non-munged name you're trying to resolve?
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[20:46:03] <rob0> So you are NOT using DNS forwarders?
[20:46:54] <rob0> !dnsbl_test
[20:46:54] <knoba> rob0: Error: "dnsbl_test" is not a valid command.
[20:47:05] <thumbs> !dnsbl
[20:47:05] <knoba> thumbs: "dnsbl" : DNS zones that can help your mail server to determine if an IP address is trusted. It's a great way to fight spam. See http://www.spamhaus.org/ZEN/ http://www.au.sorbs.net/ http://www.dnsrbl.net/ http://www.spamcop.net/ http://www.mail-abuse.org/ http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/
[20:47:18] <thumbs> umm
[20:47:58] <kisisten> rob0: no , o forwarders just a standard bind9 with root.ca
[20:48:15] <rob0> !learn dnsbl_test as Many DNSBLs support a special test record of 127.0.0.2, so you can "dig 2.0.0.127.zen.spamhaus.org. any" to test Zen, for example.
[20:48:30] <rob0> !forget dnsbl_test
[20:49:04] <rob0> !learn dnsbl_test as Many DNSBLs support a special test record of 127.0.0.2, so you can "dig 2.0.0.127.zen.spamhaus.org. any" to test Zen, for example. See also http://www.crynwr.com/spam/ to test your server's use of various DNSBLs.
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[20:59:53] <kisisten> thank you rob0 , I am able to dig and get the proper A records
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[21:24:27] <fury__> How can I make my server send "250-AUTH PLAIN" in response to HELO to let stubborn clients know that is the only authentication method?
[21:25:04] <fury__> currently it's sending "250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5"
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[21:29:08] <Dominian> turn off the other auth methods?
[21:31:37] <seekwill> lol
[21:32:06] <thumbs> Dominian: that's too obvious.
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[21:37:46] <fury__> Dominian: I believe that's what I asked how to do, yes.
[21:37:50] <clustermagnet> hey folks :) anyone running postfix/mailscanner/sa in ec2 micro instance?
[21:38:06] <clustermagnet> hows the performance…? not a large volume, 10K emails/day
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[21:42:17] <rob0> !tell fury__ idfma
[21:42:18] <knoba> fury__: "idfma" : Insufficient Data For Meaningful Answer (perhaps look at the /topic)
[21:45:53] <fury__> a better answer, at least, than "lol" and "do what you just asked to know how to do lol".
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[21:46:17] <fury__> the data you were looking for, since you were kind enough to tell me that you needed more information (but not what information you needed), is that I'm using dovecot for sasl and it needed to be disabled there.
[21:47:11] <fury__> please remember that not everybody is a postfix admin guru, and also in the case of thumbs, honestly just go fuck yourself. you're nothing but a complete fucking dick to everybody on freenode. You have serious issues, and you really should see somebody about that.
[21:50:25] <seekwill> haha
[21:50:33] <Dominian> dovecot has nothing to do with postfix
[21:50:46] <Dominian> Never assume that we assume that you are using $software with postfix
[21:51:33] <seekwill> I assume thumbs
[21:51:36] <fury__> Never assume that I know that "the thing that is being sent over a session, by postfix, has nothing to do with postfix"
[21:52:10] <thumbs> fury__: good luck getting help here after that outburst.
[21:52:18] <Dominian> fury__: If its dovecot, its not postfix. You figured it out yourself that it wasn't postfix. The question is: did you fully troubleshoot the issue before you came here or did you assume it was postfix?
[21:52:26] <fury__> a great follow-up question, if you didn't want to be a dick, would be "what are you using for sasl authentication? dovecot? something else maybe?"
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[21:52:34] <fury__> thumbs: I really don't give a flying fuck about you or your help.
[21:52:47] <fury__> I watch you - you rarely help anybody with anything anyway.
[21:52:47] <Dominian> Not a good idea to fly off the handle.
[21:52:58] <Dominian> anyway, glad you found it
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[21:53:14] <Dominian> fury__: and my answer to your original question was legit
[21:53:31] <Dominian> You asked how could you get 250-AUTH to send just the auth=plain... I answered you.
[21:53:31] <fury__> the assumption that it had to do with postfix, as postfix is the one sending "CRAM-MD5" as an available authentication method, was a fair one.
[21:54:29] <Dominian> I'm just saying, you didn't ask 'how' to disable/enable anything.. you asked : Feb 03 20:24 < ?fury__> How can I make my server send "250-AUTH PLAIN" in response to HELO to let stubborn clients know that is the only authentication method?
[21:54:38] <Dominian> My answer was legit.
[21:54:44] <Dominian> Which is awesome that you figured it out.
[21:54:57] <Dominian> I'd be happy with the fact I figured it out and ignore the attitude of the rest of us in here.
[21:54:58] <fury__> it was a bs answer and you know it was, especially judging by the "lol" from "the biggest asshole on freenode (tm)". it's fine, but if you want to help people, help them.
[21:55:00] * Dominian shrugs
[21:55:01] <seekwill> fury__: There are other support channels available.
[21:55:03] <Dominian> just saying
[21:55:06] <fury__> you gave a very typical "freenodian" answer.
[21:55:15] <seekwill> I'm the biggest asshole on freenode?
[21:55:23] <fury__> seekwill, no, thumbs is.
[21:55:30] <fury__> I actually have no problem with you :) you've helped me a bunch in the past
[21:55:36] <seekwill> fury__: thumbs never said "lol". I did...
[21:55:57] <Dominian> fury__: My bigger point is: You obviously didn't do the troubleshooting yourself. Its obvious you figured out the issue without help from anyone in here. So did you really troubleshoot the issue fully or did you come here just to start an argument over a moot point?
[21:56:08] <fury__> seekwill: my mistake, he said "that's too obvious."
[21:56:30] <seekwill> fury__: I'm still offended you called me the biggest asshole on Freenode :(
[21:56:41] <Dominian> seekwill: In all honesty, you are..... just sayin'
[21:56:44] <fury__> Dominian: I spent about 20 minutes googling and grepping config files before asking.
[21:56:50] * seekwill hugs Dominian
[21:56:55] <Dominian> seekwill: hehe
[21:57:02] <fury__> seekwill: sorry, I didn't mean you.
[21:57:03] <thumbs> tough love, indeed.
[21:57:05] <Dominian> fury__: Fair enough.
[21:57:24] <fury__> Dominian: unfortunately I was grepping the wrong config files, hehe.
[21:57:30] <Dominian> fury__: If you have something similar to that issue again, maybe next time state what you did, but then say I'm using dovecot with postfix, spamassassin yada yada yada
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[21:57:37] <Dominian> fury__: I've done that before
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[21:57:47] <fury__> fair enough.
[21:57:56] <Dominian> I'd rather have TOO much information than not enough
[21:58:13] <Dominian> and when I asnwered you, I wasn't trying to be a dick.. was just answering the question
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[22:07:51] <rob0> fury__, that tone and attitude is not useful here, nor anywhere, really.
[22:08:15] <fury__> rob0: nor is thumbs, at all, really.
[22:08:50] <fury__> it's a good thing he's here, policing #httpd and all. really a great asset to freenode.
[22:08:51] <rob0> It might help you to understand that we are volunteers and have our own responsibilities. We're generally glad to help where we can.
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[22:09:12] <fury__> rob0: you may be. others may be. thumbs just serves to be the resident dick.
[22:09:13] <rob0> Yes, thumbs is indeed a great asset. Has helped me a lot.
[22:09:30] <fury__> sorry, the sarcasm didn't come across.
[22:10:38] <rob0> yes it did, but I did not care to address it that way.
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[22:11:23] <rob0> Anyway, knowing the "Dovecot" part would have enabled me to answer. Simple as that.
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[22:16:00] <fury__> I'll keep in mind mentioning the whole setup if I need help again, thanks
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[22:19:00] <dym> Hey - what was the config directive to have all undelivered and postmaster messages sent to an administrative mailbox on postfix?
[22:19:48] <rob0> !notify_classes
[22:19:48] <knoba> rob0: "notify_classes" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of error classes that are reported to the postmaster. The default is to report only the most serious problems. The paranoid may wish to turn on the policy (UCE and mail relaying) and protocol error (broken mail software) reports.
[22:20:52] <rob0> also see "postconf | grep postmaster"
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[22:25:58] <dym> cheers!
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[23:58:20] <ripratm> is there anyways to to change smtpd_sender_restrictions to and OR condition vs and condition
[23:58:57] <ripratm> basically if I have three conditions in smtpd_sender_restrictions if any of the conditions are met allow mail to be sent
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