May 22, 2011 
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May 22, 2011 [00:09:18] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[00:12:51] *** weedar has quit IRC[00:14:47] *** weedar has joined #postfix[00:26:14] *** biggimat has quit IRC[00:27:59] <thumbs> only 1500$ ?[00:30:15] <adaptr> just the 14 hours he mentioned, eh ?[00:30:35] <adaptr> if I solve his shit in 30 mintes, should I not be re-imbursed for all the time he wasted before then ?[00:30:42] <pj> lol[00:31:12] <pj> you're forgetting that of those 30 minutes 28 of them is wasted waiting for him to provide you the right info.[00:31:44] <adaptr> that's why he pays the extra $100[00:31:51] <pj> lol[00:31:57] <adaptr> the annoying-noob rate[00:32:47] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[00:51:37] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[00:51:47] *** codeshah has joined #postfix[01:01:38] *** codeshah has quit IRC[01:08:01] *** codeshah has joined #postfix[01:09:57] *** jeev has quit IRC[01:20:03] *** e-anima has quit IRC[01:24:15] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[01:37:24] *** cps0 has joined #postfix[01:39:53] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[01:55:49] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[01:58:28] *** judget_ has joined #postfix[01:59:46] <judget_> hello I just noticed someone seemingly attempting a plain text pop3 login. Strange thing is that the nslookup almost looks like a root server is the ip address of the hack[02:01:16] <judget_> the rip of the attempt ios 62.75.202.106 ulm234.server4you.de[02:05:37] *** judget_ has quit IRC[02:32:55] <lunaphyte> wtf?[02:33:03] <lunaphyte> i wish he were still here.[02:33:17] <jimpop> who?[02:33:28] * jimpop ignores parts/joins[02:35:30] <rob0> heh, "a root server". And talking about pop3 in #postfix ... lots of fail in that.[02:35:56] <lunaphyte> every which way from sunday.[02:36:12] <lunaphyte> nslookup...[02:36:15] *** basho__ has quit IRC[02:36:35] <jimpop> oh, i auto-ignored him/her[02:37:26] <rob0> Yes, some levels of fail are not worth trying to correct.[02:39:05] <lunaphyte> like, for example, taking a broken tool to the hardware store to find some nuts and bolts to fix it, finding the needed parts, and then leaving the tool on the shelf at the hardware store and coming home with a couple of nuts and bolts but no tool.[02:39:12] <lunaphyte> [that's what i just did].[02:41:27] *** basho__ has joined #postfix[02:43:03] <jimpop> hah[02:44:52] <rob0> :)[02:45:50] *** basho__ has quit IRC[02:50:28] *** hparker has quit IRC[02:52:20] *** Cain` has joined #postfix[02:54:01] *** Cain has quit IRC[02:54:02] *** Cain` is now known as Cain[02:59:39] *** Gatto has quit IRC[03:08:29] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[03:10:09] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[03:17:46] *** locohost has quit IRC[03:23:48] *** hparker has joined #postfix[03:23:48] *** hparker has joined #postfix[03:40:30] *** jan__ has joined #postfix[03:41:07] *** gothos has quit IRC[03:47:54] *** Norman_Bates has quit IRC[03:50:20] *** kuhkatz has quit IRC[03:58:22] <adaptr> lunaphyte: you are your own tool[04:13:56] *** geek_cl has joined #postfix[04:36:08] *** hparker has quit IRC[05:03:01] *** ziroux has joined #postfix[05:50:46] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:53:25] *** mcp has quit IRC[05:53:51] *** pw has quit IRC[05:54:18] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[05:57:18] *** mcp has joined #postfix[06:01:22] *** pw has joined #postfix[06:09:54] *** etaylor_ has quit IRC[06:26:06] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[06:43:34] *** cytrinox_ has joined #postfix[06:46:38] *** cytrinox has quit IRC[06:46:38] *** cytrinox_ is now known as cytrinox[06:58:24] *** geek_cl has quit IRC[07:00:16] *** jimpop has quit IRC[07:43:54] *** Timzzzz is now known as Timmooo[07:58:53] *** krzee has quit IRC[07:59:01] *** krzee has joined #postfix[08:06:46] *** diddus has joined #postfix[08:07:28] *** Jaac has quit IRC[08:08:02] <diddus> !debug[08:08:02] <knoba> diddus: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[08:21:04] *** magyar has quit IRC[08:47:27] *** Timmooo is now known as Tim|Dinner[08:51:50] *** ziroux has quit IRC[09:01:42] *** Tim|Dinner is now known as Tim[09:01:53] *** Tim is now known as Timmooo[09:05:37] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[09:17:06] *** Norman_Bates has joined #postfix[09:20:08] *** thumbs has quit IRC[09:21:23] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[09:21:23] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[09:23:33] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[09:23:49] *** Motoko has quit IRC[09:29:27] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[09:30:25] *** _Tassadar has quit IRC[09:32:29] *** jeev has joined #postfix[09:37:06] *** madduck has quit IRC[09:46:23] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[09:46:24] *** ced117 has joined #postfix[09:54:26] *** krzee has quit IRC[10:00:55] *** madduck has joined #postfix[10:21:22] <diddus> postconf -n[10:21:28] <diddus> postconf-n[10:21:30] *** gebi has joined #postfix[10:22:01] *** diddus has quit IRC[10:24:03] *** _Tassadar has joined #postfix[10:34:49] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[10:39:06] *** weedar has quit IRC[10:50:42] *** wdp has joined #postfix[10:50:42] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:00:53] *** pj has quit IRC[11:01:09] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[11:05:06] *** dimm has joined #postfix[11:06:30] <dimm> hello! i meant that my question is not full related to Postfix… but i hope you give me right direction. What can i do if i want to copy all mail from several mail accounts to archive?[11:14:36] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[11:17:38] *** Matic`Makovec has joined #postfix[11:32:05] *** Timmooo is now known as Timzzzz[11:34:30] *** dimm has quit IRC[11:35:11] *** dimm has joined #postfix[11:37:24] *** dimm has quit IRC[11:37:29] *** n0sq has quit IRC[11:45:47] *** roentgen has quit IRC[11:50:45] *** dimm has joined #postfix[11:50:52] *** n0sq has joined #postfix[11:59:35] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[12:01:32] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[12:14:51] <adaptr> !tell dimm recipient_bcc_maps[12:14:52] <knoba> dimm: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[12:18:02] *** wdp has quit IRC[12:19:34] <dimm> adaptr: thx a lot[12:21:41] *** Norman_Bates has quit IRC[12:24:12] *** gebi has quit IRC[12:24:31] *** gebi has joined #postfix[12:28:24] *** Gatto has joined #postfix[12:42:06] *** cytrinox has quit IRC[12:42:14] *** mlsmith9999_ has quit IRC[12:42:26] <dimm> can i store virtual users in simple text file instead mysql db ?[12:43:42] <Aprogas> Please clarify. Postfix has no "virtual users".[12:44:13] <Aprogas> There are virtual mailboxes, and those can be stored in a text-file (usually you make a hash-table from it).[12:44:16] <Aprogas> Is that what you meant?[12:44:27] *** thumbs has quit IRC[12:44:36] <dimm> Aprogas: yes it is[12:45:32] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[12:45:32] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[13:11:27] *** internatg2 has joined #postfix[13:13:14] *** Internat has quit IRC[13:15:00] *** cpm has joined #postfix[13:15:00] *** cpm has quit IRC[13:15:00] *** cpm has joined #postfix[13:16:28] *** internatg2 has quit IRC[13:17:59] *** internatg2 has joined #postfix[13:23:39] *** internatg2 has quit IRC[13:29:01] *** internatg2 has joined #postfix[13:34:08] *** internatg2 has quit IRC[13:34:27] *** gebi has quit IRC[13:41:11] *** internatg2 has joined #postfix[13:42:08] *** Gatto has quit IRC[13:47:59] *** basho__ has joined #postfix[14:06:45] *** lusted_gay has joined #postfix[14:15:10] *** TomHome has quit IRC[14:31:01] <dimm> recipient johnsmith57 at backup dot com: not found in virtual_uid_maps[14:31:06] <dimm> what does it meant?[14:33:34] <Aprogas> That virtual_uid_maps contains no entry on which johnsmith57 at backup dot com would match.[14:33:35] *** wdp has joined #postfix[14:33:35] *** wdp has joined #postfix[14:33:41] <Aprogas> !tell dimm virtual[14:33:41] <knoba> dimm: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[14:33:55] <Aprogas> In many cases, using a static: table for virtual_uid_maps is sufficient.[14:35:13] <dimm> Aprogas: yes, got it working now :)[14:35:38] <dimm> status=sent (delivered to mailbox)[14:40:55] *** cpm has quit IRC[14:57:11] *** magyar has joined #postfix[14:57:19] *** magyar has joined #postfix[15:02:56] *** kuhkatz has joined #postfix[15:02:56] *** kuhkatz has joined #postfix[15:33:40] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[15:39:20] *** roentgen has joined #postfix[15:57:37] *** roentgen has quit IRC[15:59:11] *** _justdave has quit IRC[15:59:46] *** roentgen has joined #postfix[16:01:04] *** Jaac has joined #postfix[16:03:47] *** _justdave has joined #postfix[16:12:00] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[16:13:28] *** uqlev has quit IRC[16:31:37] *** JoKoT3 has quit IRC[16:42:39] *** jimpop has joined #postfix[17:01:52] *** Matic`Makovec has quit IRC[17:06:52] *** made_of_storm has joined #postfix[17:08:39] *** made_of_storm has quit IRC[17:08:57] *** made_of_storm has joined #postfix[17:30:00] *** cps0 has quit IRC[17:36:30] *** john_doe has joined #postfix[17:37:01] <john_doe> How do I avoid unauthorized sending of mails?[17:37:27] <Aprogas> By setting up proper restrictions.[17:37:48] <john_doe> Aprogas: I got so far ;-)[17:38:39] <john_doe> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, check_relay_domains ?[17:39:12] <Aprogas> Usually you need at least a reject_unauth_destination and be careful with any restrictions you put before that.[17:39:50] <adaptr> !check_relay_domains[17:39:50] <knoba> adaptr: "check_relay_domains" : check_relay_domains was a valid restriction from Postfix 1.x and earlier. For backwards compatibility it still retains functionality similar to !reject_unauth_destination, but it SHOULD NOT BE USED in a modern Postfix install.[17:40:11] *** Pathin_ has quit IRC[17:42:31] *** Pathin has joined #postfix[17:42:42] <Aprogas> That's old.[17:42:43] *** dimm has quit IRC[17:43:51] *** dimm has joined #postfix[17:44:21] <john_doe> Aprogas: Yes I have reject_unauth_destination[17:45:16] <john_doe> = noanonymous I wanted to say[17:45:16] *** dimm has quit IRC[17:45:19] <Aprogas> You can also restrict which sender addresses SASL-authenticated clients can use, I forgot the exact name of the setting though, something like sender_login_maps[17:45:42] <Aprogas> Maybe you should just pastebin your configuration as per the topic. You are confusing me a bit.[17:45:57] *** dimm has joined #postfix[17:51:02] *** MAAAAAD has joined #postfix[17:53:57] *** MAAAAD has quit IRC[17:56:04] *** Pathin has quit IRC[18:38:46] *** empity has joined #postfix[18:42:29] *** krzee has joined #postfix[18:42:57] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[19:04:26] *** Matic`Makovec has joined #postfix[19:08:06] *** john_doe has quit IRC[19:09:13] *** codeshah has quit IRC[19:27:24] *** dimm has quit IRC[19:27:35] *** dimm has joined #postfix[19:32:25] *** dimm has quit IRC[19:32:42] *** dimm has joined #postfix[19:49:55] *** dimm has quit IRC[19:50:21] *** dimm has joined #postfix[20:00:43] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[20:21:36] *** e-anima has quit IRC[20:21:58] *** roentgen has quit IRC[20:29:10] *** Motoko has quit IRC[20:31:52] *** Motoko has joined #postfix[20:37:27] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[20:46:07] *** made_of_storm has quit IRC[21:03:27] *** kale has joined #postfix[21:04:28] <kale> i'm setting up postfix, and i'm having trouble seeing the difference between local_recipient_maps and alias_maps. can you clarify?[21:10:59] *** Motoko has quit IRC[21:15:47] <Aprogas> alias_maps rewrites addresses, local_recipient_maps specifies which addresses exist.[21:16:12] <Aprogas> Addresses that are not rewritten can still exist, e.g. UNIX usernames.[21:19:12] <adaptr> !local_recipient_maps[21:19:12] <knoba> adaptr: "local_recipient_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Lookup tables with all names or addresses of local recipients. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces.[21:19:54] <Aprogas> There is also alias_database to add to the confusion.[21:20:43] <adaptr> !alias_database[21:20:43] <knoba> adaptr: "alias_database" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The alias databases for local(8) delivery that are updated with "newaliases" or with "sendmail -bi".[21:21:56] <Aprogas> Which makes me realize I have it set incorrectly because I use mailman.[21:22:47] <Aprogas> To think of all the CPU-cycles wasted on newaliases hashing mailman's aliases file, even though mailman already did that![21:22:55] *** Fire-Fox has joined #postfix[21:23:08] <Fire-Fox> !debug[21:23:08] <knoba> Fire-Fox: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[21:23:35] *** Fire-Fox has left #postfix[21:28:09] *** pj has joined #postfix[21:34:23] <kale> Aprogas: ok, alias_maps is used for something like: john@doe -> jane@doe[21:34:49] <kale> Aprogas: and the local maps is where you actually deliver the email[21:34:58] <kale> Aprogas: is this correct?[21:35:22] <Aprogas> local(8) delivers the mail, local_recipient_maps is used by smtpd to determine whether to accept or reject (unknown local user) the mail.[21:35:45] <kale> Aprogas: ok, thanks[21:36:31] <Aprogas> Normally you don't need to change local_recipient_maps[21:36:49] <kale> when i use postfix to deliver email through dovecot. does postfix then still check its local_recipient_maps? i mean before mail is given to dovecot?[21:36:51] *** tris has quit IRC[21:37:18] <kale> Aprogas: my users are in ldap, so i need to make some change to the loca_recipient_maps i believe[21:37:31] <Aprogas> Are your local UNIX users in LDAP?[21:37:38] <kale> Aprogas: no[21:37:49] <Aprogas> Maybe you want to use virtual users instead.[21:38:20] <Aprogas> And often you can use Postfix's own local or virtual delivery agents, you only need to deliver through dovecot if you use sieve or such features.[21:38:28] <kale> ahh yes, that would be better[21:38:50] <kale> Aprogas: if i deliver through dovecot, then dovecot does not need to rescan the maildirs[21:48:40] *** tris has joined #postfix[21:51:49] *** Timzzzz is now known as Timmooo[21:53:33] *** jumperboy has quit IRC[21:56:35] *** jumperboy has joined #postfix[22:05:12] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[22:12:53] *** ced117 has quit IRC[22:14:16] *** gremset has joined #postfix[22:14:38] <gremset> I have setup nginx+php-fpm+postfix. php mail() does not work, gives a 500 inernal server error? Any pointers to where should I look to solve this issue?[22:15:06] <Aprogas> !logs[22:15:06] <knoba> Aprogas: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung[22:15:32] <Aprogas> Although with an 500 internal server error, it probably doesn't even reach the front door of Postfix.[22:15:59] <Aprogas> Check your webserver logs or put PHP into some debugging mode.[22:20:07] <kale> Aprogas: i want to be able to receive mails from cron and other services, these mails should be delivered a user in the virtual domain. is this possible?[22:21:44] <thumbs> gremset: go and ask ##php[22:21:48] *** e-anima has joined #postfix[22:22:24] <Aprogas> kale: Yes.[22:23:15] <kale> Aprogas: so i will have an aliases for each unix account that runs cronjobs, and this aliases points to an emailaddress in the virtual domain. is that the way it works?[22:24:50] <Aprogas> That is one possibility. Another is to just set MAILTO= to the correct address in the crontab.[22:27:27] <kale> i did set up postfix to add a domain after the user part of the email (myorigin). so this way i believe all emails will be delivered to a corresponding user in the virtual mailsystem automatically.[22:29:04] <Aprogas> If the domain added by myorigin is a virtual_mailbox_domain then yes. Although this is no guarantee that the corresponding virtual user exists.[22:29:25] <kale> seems like i only need to find out how to make postfix deliver using info from ldap. can postfix deliver to a directory like this "user@domain" -> /srv/domain/user/mailbox ?[22:29:59] <kale> ahh, ok, then i need not worry about local users[22:31:08] <Aprogas> Postfix table lookup are abstract. If you can write an LDAP-query that returns the relative path of the mailbox, Postfix will accept it (if compiled with LDAP-support of course)[22:31:49] <Aprogas> If you are running cronjobs, those run as local users, and by default mail will be sent to those users (probably at the unqualified address). If myorigin expands those unqualified addresses to virtual mailboxes that don't exist, the mails won't be delivered.[22:32:14] *** Gatto has joined #postfix[22:32:23] <kale> Aprogas: yes, but i only have two users and they are in both places. it will be ok.[22:32:53] *** dimm has quit IRC[22:33:27] <Aprogas> So you have multiple virtual users in LDAP, 2 of which also happen to have real local accounts?[22:33:31] *** dimm has joined #postfix[22:33:33] <dimm> centos-ru[22:33:42] <kale> Aprogas: yes[22:33:58] <dimm> sorry, part of /j message[22:35:49] <Aprogas> You can use alias_maps or .forward to redirect all mail that happens to go to the local UNIX users to their virtual mailboxes instead.[22:36:17] <kale> Aprogas: ok[22:43:58] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:44:22] *** Timmooo is now known as Timzzzz[22:56:43] <kale> so how do i ask ldap? transport_maps = ldap:mytransport ?[22:57:17] <Aprogas> !tell kale virtual[22:57:17] <knoba> kale: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[22:57:35] <Aprogas> transport_maps does something else, you don't need it for virtual mailboxes[22:59:14] <kale> ok, what to write instead of: virtual_alias_maps = ldap homeDir /../maildir/[22:59:59] <kale> virtual_recipient_maps = ldpa:mymaps ?[23:00:34] <Aprogas> Read the virtual readme first.[23:00:59] <kale> manpage? or some file?[23:01:05] <Aprogas> Using an LDAP-table is nearly the same as using a hash-table, except you need to write a query.[23:01:08] <Aprogas> !tell kale virtual[23:01:08] <knoba> kale: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[23:08:39] *** Matic`Makovec has quit IRC[23:09:46] *** Dessa has quit IRC[23:12:36] *** verywiseman has joined #postfix[23:12:36] *** verywiseman has joined #postfix[23:14:56] <kale> looks like this will be much easier if i just check the emailaddress is ok, and then deliver to dovecot.[23:16:29] <Aprogas> How many users are in the LDAP?[23:17:09] <kale> not many, this is a hobby project. i'm doing it to learn how it works[23:18:05] <Aprogas> Usually if you store mailboxes for users that aren't local UNIX accounts, you virtual mailboxes.[23:18:29] <kale> Aprogas: dovecot uses virtual users too, if thats what you ask?[23:18:45] <Aprogas> It's still wise to set it up as virtual in Postfix as well.[23:19:16] <kale> what benefits would i get from that?[23:19:21] <Aprogas> local_transport is invoked as root I think, not sure if dovecot/deliver knows how to drop privs and to what uid[23:19:48] <Aprogas> Do you want to do this the right way, or hack things together?[23:20:07] <kale> well dovecot is not an smtp server[23:21:18] <Aprogas> Correct, but not sure what you mean by that.[23:21:42] <kale> but yes, i want this done right. that way i can easily replace dovecot later on if i want to. right now i'm just wondering how to tell postfix to ask ldap for the adresses[23:21:56] <adaptr> !tell kale ldap[23:21:56] <knoba> kale: "ldap" : a lookup method that can be used by Postfix. An introduction can be found in the LDAP_README also found at http://www.postfix.org/LDAP_README.html. A worthy project dealing with LDAP and Postfix can be found at: http://jamm.sourceforge.net/howto/html/[23:22:48] <Aprogas> I linked you to the virtual readme. Once you grasp how that works, just replace the hash-table by the ldap-table and write an ldap-query that returns a relative mailbox path when Postfix puts an email address into %s[23:23:08] *** carloimperia has joined #postfix[23:24:08] <kale> i do have a virtual system running now, but i set it up 6-8 years ago, so some parts i do not remember fully. i used a postgress database for the users earlier, but now i want to switch to ldap.[23:24:26] <kale> the ldap readme looks like the thing i need[23:35:34] *** basho__ has quit IRC[23:36:41] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[23:41:02] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[23:41:35] *** codeshah has joined #postfix[23:45:47] *** Dessa has joined #postfix[23:53:19] *** e-jones has quit IRC