May 21, 2011 
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May 21, 2011 [00:05:37] *** cpm has quit IRC[00:09:59] *** Gatto has quit IRC[00:13:32] *** geek_cl has joined #postfix[00:13:50] *** wdp has joined #postfix[00:13:50] *** wdp has joined #postfix[00:22:33] *** cps0 has joined #postfix[00:24:35] *** cps0 has quit IRC[00:29:26] *** basho__ has quit IRC[00:48:16] *** byronb has quit IRC[00:52:13] *** sphenxes01 has quit IRC[00:57:39] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[01:02:08] *** runev_ has joined #postfix[01:02:32] <jimpop> Please Don't stop the music! FTFY[01:05:07] *** ccxCZ_ has joined #postfix[01:06:10] *** vho\ has joined #postfix[01:06:44] *** lusted_gay has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** ccxCZ has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** runev has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** plee has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** viddy has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** vho has quit IRC[01:06:44] *** ccxCZ_ is now known as ccxCZ[01:06:44] *** youknowho has joined #postfix[01:06:44] *** viddy has joined #postfix[01:06:59] *** plee has joined #postfix[01:07:10] *** pj has joined #postfix[01:07:27] *** joschi_ has joined #postfix[01:07:51] *** joschi has quit IRC[01:08:12] *** youknowh1 has quit IRC[01:10:05] *** jimpop has quit IRC[01:11:17] *** jimpop has joined #postfix[01:11:29] * seekwill stops jimpop's music[01:19:51] <asmogator> does someone know good howto regarding postfix mail relay using sasl ?[01:21:34] <pj> !tell asmogator sasl_client[01:21:37] <knoba> asmogator: "sasl_client" : www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl[01:22:28] <asmogator> /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd: # destination credentials [mail.isp.example] username:password[01:22:50] <asmogator> can it be: [smtp.server.com] user at domain dot com:password[01:22:50] <asmogator> ?[01:23:48] *** sbeam has quit IRC[01:25:42] *** p3rror has quit IRC[01:28:10] <lunaphyte> i don't understand the question.[01:30:03] <lunaphyte> i don't believe the owner of server.com offers submission service at smtp.server.com[01:31:01] <pj> lol[01:32:12] <asmogator> sure you don't understand ;)[01:32:18] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[01:32:23] <asmogator> it's not easy one[01:34:51] <adaptr> it's trivial. you're talking about the postfix sasl client.[01:34:57] <lunaphyte> the format of the file is documented in the man 5 postconf, as well as in the file[01:35:13] <lunaphyte> *in man[01:35:24] * adaptr stands up to the man[01:35:45] <jimpop> this is #postfix, in man is over in #gay[01:37:12] <adaptr> hey, don't disparage teh gay[01:37:35] <jimpop> i'm not, i'm encouraging another follower to join them[01:38:14] 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functor: you probably want #dovecot[20:54:46] <functor> adaptr: Yes, already there[20:55:05] <functor> adaptr: Long story, luna was the one who told me to use dovecot (when reporting a postfix problem :P)[20:55:37] <adaptr> he did not.[20:56:47] <functor> Are you sure adaptr?[20:57:05] <adaptr> unless your grammar is faulty, yes[20:57:42] <functor> So he did not recommend to use Dovecot for auth (and IMAP) when I had auth issues with Postfix?[20:58:07] <adaptr> that's not what you said[20:58:14] <adaptr> are you done being a smartass ?[20:58:18] <functor> I guess my grammar is faulty then[20:58:29] <lunaphyte> luna != lunaphyte[20:58:38] <functor> Hi lunaphyte[20:59:13] <lunaphyte> nonetheless, as usual, to get help in this channel, you'll need to provide the data as detailed in the /topic [same as before].[20:59:14] <lunaphyte> hi[20:59:45] <functor> Of course, I was going to ask something about postfix in a bit, just mentioning the trouble[20:59:54] <functor> I dont expect postfix people to help with dovecot heh[21:00:09] <lunaphyte> we'll often help with the sasl aspects.[21:00:36] <functor> Thats what I wanted to ask, I still have some trouble with auth, but I might just have the config wrong this time[21:01:18] <functor> "postfix/smtpd[6289]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms"[21:01:22] <functor> Ah this could be a sign[21:01:27] *** Norman_Bates has joined #postfix[21:03:27] <adaptr> no, the signs were yesterday. today is armageddon.[21:03:30] <adaptr> you're too late[21:03:45] <lunaphyte> oh, that reminds me, i need to get my hair cut.[21:03:58] <functor> :([21:04:09] <adaptr> shiiiiit negro, the end of times is truly upon is now[21:10:44] <functor> warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: No such file or directory[21:10:48] <functor> I smell permission problems[21:11:16] <adaptr> !tell functor chroot[21:11:16] <knoba> functor: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf, if not n , means that the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot, see !debug , !queue_directory and files in the examples/chroot-setup subdirectory of the Postfix source archive which show examples of a Postfix chroot environment on a variety of systems[21:11:36] <functor> yes adaptr, its in chroot and the file is in /var/spool/postfix/private/auth[21:11:39] <functor> (which is chroot)[21:12:01] <adaptr> nevertheless[21:12:11] <functor> Ah, seems "auth" doesnt exist[21:12:30] <adaptr> ah, so you were shitting out of your arse :)[21:12:36] <functor> Nope[21:12:41] <adaptr> ...yes[21:12:52] <functor> Thats where I configured it to be anyway[21:13:36] <adaptr> did you read[21:13:39] <adaptr> !sasl[21:13:39] <knoba> adaptr: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[21:13:41] <adaptr> completely[21:13:52] <functor> I just found the problem[21:14:10] <adaptr> "cause"[21:14:12] <adaptr> you mean the cause[21:15:23] <functor> srw-rw---- 1 postfix postfix 0 May 21 20:17 auth[21:15:26] <functor> here we go[21:15:57] <functor> woohoo, worked[21:16:29] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[21:17:18] <functor> well, the email didnt reach its destination, lol[21:19:12] *** Gatto has joined #postfix[21:23:38] <etaylor_> Hello all, I'm tasked with setting up postfix which will be sitting behind a F5 GTM. The postfix node is on a private network. What variables do I have to edit so I can send mail to the internet. I'm not sure if I have to use proxy_interfaces or relayhost. F5 GTM is just a traffic manager and only just directs traffic.[21:38:08] *** pj has joined #postfix[21:39:41] *** failure has quit IRC[21:39:48] *** failure has joined #postfix[21:40:33] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[21:51:15] *** Ashutto has quit IRC[22:03:57] <adaptr> !tell etaylor_ basic[22:03:57] <knoba> etaylor_: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[22:06:34] *** basho__ has joined #postfix[22:09:04] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[22:12:42] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[22:13:08] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[22:16:37] *** roentgen has joined #postfix[22:20:41] *** FlyOnTheWall has joined #postfix[22:21:30] <FlyOnTheWall> Hello, I have just installed a mail server, but my mails are not delivered, but left in the defer -queue, any ideas on how I should go about troubleshooting this?[22:22:03] <Aprogas> !debug[22:22:03] <knoba> Aprogas: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://dpaste.com/[22:22:34] <FlyOnTheWall> thanks[22:26:53] *** hparker has quit IRC[22:26:58] <functor> Hmm, I just switched primary dns servers for the domain, it propagated locally but it seems gmail is still trying to send to the old smtp[22:28:11] <Aprogas> Did you change your glue?[22:31:06] *** hparker has joined #postfix[22:31:07] *** hparker has joined #postfix[22:31:16] *** s0ber_ has joined #postfix[22:31:17] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[22:31:35] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[22:32:15] *** wdp has quit IRC[22:33:07] <functor> Hotmail is fine, jusr gmail[22:33:37] *** s0ber has quit IRC[22:33:54] *** s0ber_ is now known as s0ber[22:34:51] <pj> what's the domain?[22:35:45] <pj> functor: ^^^^^^^^^^^[22:36:28] <functor> pj, haxdev.org[22:36:56] <functor> should be 87.117.198.145[22:37:57] <pj> one min while I check your dns[22:38:04] <FlyOnTheWall> My mails going in either direction to and from my internet mail host are getting stuck in the defer -queue, could anybody possibly shed some light for me how to fix the mail flow? http://dpaste.com/545124/[22:39:17] <pj> functor: how long since you changed the dns?[22:39:29] <functor> pj earlier this morning[22:39:32] <functor> how long does it take?[22:39:42] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[22:39:47] <pj> functor: your TTL is set to three hours, has it been at least that long?[22:40:14] <functor> Hmm, possibly, I'll leave it till tomorrow and check again pj[22:40:20] <functor> its not important that it works today[22:40:30] *** sphenxes02 has quit IRC[22:40:46] <pj> functor: ok, I'm also double checking ac ouple of DNS things still[22:41:18] <functor> Though, it seems to work with hotmail unless it can propagate before TTL[22:41:52] *** tris has quit IRC[22:42:05] <pj> functor: it depends on how old the entry was in the various other dns servers.[22:42:25] <pj> if there was a cached entry that had not expired yet then it will not propagate until it expires[22:42:32] <pj> otherwise it propagates right away.[22:42:36] <functor> Ah, will wait then, thanks[22:42:46] <pj> ok[22:43:00] <functor> I think the gmail server had cache because it forwarded my gmail to that address[22:43:04] <functor> hotmail didnt[22:43:05] <pj> yeah[22:43:08] <pj> so wait the three hours[22:43:11] <functor> Ok[22:43:11] <pj> then gmail should be good[22:43:16] <functor> thanks[22:43:23] <pj> yw[22:44:16] <pj> FlyOnTheWall: can you please pastebin relevant logs of the issue you are having?[22:47:07] <FlyOnTheWall> I can try, just a sec[22:49:41] <FlyOnTheWall> http://dpaste.com/545127/[22:49:43] <FlyOnTheWall> there[22:49:50] <FlyOnTheWall> I'd say that's the most relevant[22:50:05] <FlyOnTheWall> spamc does exist[22:50:40] <FlyOnTheWall> the only mention of it is on a spamassassin line in main.cf, and the path to it is correct there[22:51:18] <pj> !tell FlyOnTheWall relevant_logs[22:51:18] <knoba> FlyOnTheWall: "relevant_logs" : Relevant logs are mail.* syslog Postfix logs (NOT verbose, see !verbose) which show the entire handling of a single mail which illustrates the issue with which you want help. Random selections from your mail log might not do. IMAP/POP3 daemons and external delivery agents typically log to the same facility (mail); those are usually not relevant here.[22:52:16] <FlyOnTheWall> that is from the mail.log file[22:52:50] <pj> yes, but that is not the entire handling of a single email[22:53:03] <FlyOnTheWall> I see[22:53:15] <FlyOnTheWall> alright, I'll try to grep the id of one of the mails[22:53:26] <pj> that's a good idea ;-)[22:53:39] *** tris has joined #postfix[22:58:14] <FlyOnTheWall> alright, here goes http://dpaste.com/545129/[22:58:21] <FlyOnTheWall> the last three lines just keep repeating[22:59:04] <FlyOnTheWall> I already fixed the part where the domain was in both mydomains and the virtual_alias_domains[22:59:45] <adaptr> May 21 22:11:40 localhost spamc[9803]: exec failed: No such file or directory[22:59:52] <adaptr> fix your spamc setup[23:00:08] <pj> yeah, what adaptr said, hehehe[23:00:38] <FlyOnTheWall> adaptr: I take it you mean that I should check the path to spamc is correct in master.cf?[23:00:58] <adaptr> no, I meant exactly what I said. I don't use spamc/d, I have no idea what you did wrong.[23:01:19] <pj> it could be a chroot issue, I think[23:01:30] *** ced117 has quit IRC[23:01:33] <adaptr> of course[23:01:45] <FlyOnTheWall> chroot is set to no[23:02:53] <pj> well, it's spamc that is complaining, not postfix[23:02:59] <pj> so it is being run on some level[23:03:01] <FlyOnTheWall> I'm not sure how to "fix my spamc setup" since the only reference to spamc actually points to the correct file[23:03:22] <FlyOnTheWall> hm..[23:03:23] <pj> spamc is complaining that it can't execute something else[23:03:26] <FlyOnTheWall> I see[23:04:31] <FlyOnTheWall> ...[23:04:36] <FlyOnTheWall> I think I found the error now[23:04:39] <pj> ok[23:05:23] <FlyOnTheWall> sigh[23:05:27] <FlyOnTheWall> yes.[23:05:32] <FlyOnTheWall> thank you both[23:05:38] <pj> yw, what was the error?[23:05:50] <FlyOnTheWall> the spamassassin line in master.cf[23:05:55] <pj> ok[23:05:57] <FlyOnTheWall> it's just one line, I'll paste it here[23:06:02] <pj> ok[23:06:14] <FlyOnTheWall> well, two, but still[23:06:15] <FlyOnTheWall> spamassassin unix - n n - - pipe user=spamd argv=/usr/bin/vendor_perl/spamc -f -e /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}[23:06:24] <FlyOnTheWall> ah no, just vim splitting it[23:06:36] <FlyOnTheWall> the path to sendmail was /user/sbin/sendmail[23:06:45] <FlyOnTheWall> obviously I wrote that by hand[23:06:50] <pj> ahhhh, right[23:06:52] <pj> that would do it.[23:06:56] <FlyOnTheWall> indeed[23:07:33] <pj> and so spamc could not re-inject the emails because it didn't have the correct path to sendmail[23:07:55] <FlyOnTheWall> yes[23:08:09] <FlyOnTheWall> although, I still can't send mail from the local machine out[23:08:19] <FlyOnTheWall> but this time it actually says so[23:08:46] <pj> well, if you want assistance then we need to see relevant logs again[23:09:37] <FlyOnTheWall> yup, gonna make sure it's not just the webmail client first[23:09:43] <pj> ok[23:11:14] <FlyOnTheWall> yeh, must be something fishy with the webmail client[23:11:20] <FlyOnTheWall> mails go through when I use thunderbird[23:11:33] <pj> ok[23:11:42] <pj> logs will show you the problem[23:11:51] <FlyOnTheWall> oh well, main thing is the incoming mail works, the outgoing doesn't have to for until monday[23:11:57] <FlyOnTheWall> I'm hoping they will[23:12:04] <FlyOnTheWall> but right now I need to go home and get some sleep[23:12:07] <pj> they almost always do[23:12:40] <FlyOnTheWall> past midnight here, this little configuration only took about 14 hours or so[23:12:44] <FlyOnTheWall> thanks again[23:12:50] <pj> yw[23:12:52] *** FlyOnTheWall has quit IRC[23:13:21] <adaptr> he's going to get is ass reamed come monday[23:13:54] <pj> heh, why is that?[23:14:51] <adaptr> because he is in way over his head, and people are going to bitch about mail[23:15:01] <pj> yep, there is that, hehehe[23:15:18] <adaptr> managers tend to have very little patience or understanding when it comes to mail[23:15:33] <pj> they don't understand just how complex it really is[23:15:47] <pj> all they see is, "type in email, hit send. How hard can it be?"[23:16:42] <adaptr> and we say "easy! that'll be $1500 in conslutting fees plz"[23:16:49] <pj> lol[23:22:56] *** uqlev has quit IRC[23:34:25] *** e-jones has quit IRC