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[00:00:37] <dall> ???
[00:00:46] <Section1> but maybe your problem is in args = uid=vmail .....
[00:01:13] <dall> why?
[00:01:24] <dall> vmail is the user and the grup that i'm using to read emails
[00:01:39] <dall> /home/postfix/vmail <---- vmail:vmail
[00:01:58] <Section1> your MAILS have taht uid and gid ? not the folder
[00:02:09] <dall> all the files dirs inside this directory are owned by vmail:vmail
[00:02:13] <Section1> ok
[00:02:31] <Section1> so idont know what can be...maybe selinux
[00:02:40] <dall> selinux ?
[00:03:10] <Section1> if you have enabled can be selinux
[00:03:17] <dall> i don't understand why these few logs
[00:03:55] <dall> i also tried with strace...but nothing
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[00:06:17] <dall> i'm receiving without problems
[00:07:02] <dall> i only get: Relay access denied; when i try to send with my user...
[00:07:08] <dall> i have to fix something
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[00:13:00] <lawl> rob0, thank you very much. check_sender_access with "domain.com reject" in the file did the job. Aslo Thank you Section1, seekwill and pickcoder for their points of view
[00:13:14] <kinga_> ah great, postfix has an IRC channel
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[00:13:53] <lawl> yes, and master mail servers administrators, like the ones i just named.
[00:13:57] <kinga_> ok...to be quick, i just want to have incoming mail server, i don't want to send anything, i want only to receive it
[00:14:23] <Penderecki> Hey guys. I'm getting 17914 May 13 15:09:12 localhost postfix/smtpd[32602]: setting up TLS connection from mail-iw0-f176.google.com[209.85.214.176]
[00:14:25] <kinga_> i have myhostname = kinga-desktop myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = 89.115.144.183, kinga-desktop, localhost.localdomain, localhost
[00:14:42] <kinga_> when i try to send an email from my gmail account
[00:14:44] <Penderecki> and nothing happens after that./ postconf -n =
[00:14:58] <kinga_> i get 501 5.1.3 Bad recipient address syntax
[00:15:27] <kinga_> am i doing something wrong ? how hard can setting up an email server be ?
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[00:15:58] <kinga_> i've send the email to kinga-desktop at 89 dot 115.144.183
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[00:16:23] <kinga_> tried kinga at 89 dot 115.144.183, kinga is my local account name
[00:16:28] <kinga_> but with no avail
[00:17:25] <Penderecki> my conf is http://pastebin.com/VHg7eStK and nothing shows up after the 'setting up TLS connection' message
[00:17:25] <lunaphyte> !tell kinga_ welcom
[00:17:25] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[00:17:28] <lunaphyte> !tell kinga_ welcome
[00:17:29] <knoba> kinga_: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.
[00:18:09] <rob0> Why did you expect that "kinga at 89 dot 115.144.183" was valid syntax? It's not.
[00:18:33] <kinga_> i only have a basic understanding of how mail systems work
[00:18:51] <rob0> An IP literal must be enclosed in [square brackets]. And no, mail is far from easy.
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[00:19:18] <xpeed> maybe it is a good practice include <>
[00:19:58] <rob0> the sending MTA will do it if the user doesn't.
[00:20:50] <lunaphyte> !tel kinga_ why?
[00:20:50] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: "tel" is not a valid command.
[00:20:53] <lunaphyte> bah
[00:20:55] <rob0> "RCPT TO:<kinga at [89 dot 115.144.183]>" is what the MTA will transmit over the wire.
[00:20:56] <xpeed> maybe will cause problems if strict_rfc821_envelopes is set to yes
[00:21:02] <lunaphyte> !tell kinga_ why?
[00:21:02] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[00:21:07] <lunaphyte> omfg
[00:21:20] <rob0> s/\?//
[00:21:28] <dall> hey guys i get relay access denied
[00:21:31] <lunaphyte> i just woke up. is it obvious?
[00:21:45] <rob0> Good morning! ;)
[00:21:49] <lunaphyte> :)
[00:22:09] <lunaphyte> short night last night, i took a little nap after work just now.
[00:22:32] <kinga_> my postconf: http://pastebin.com/Ku1DqKN1
[00:23:13] <rob0> No point in looking at that, as I already said, the addrss literal was wrong.
[00:24:01] <dall> rob0, relay access denied....what could be? :)
[00:24:33] <kinga_> ok, i did include [ ] , no success; Probe failed: Illegal envelope To: address (invalid domain name): kinga-desktop at [89 dot 115.144.183]
[00:25:19] <kinga_> Received: from [192.168.0.129] (89-115-144-183.b.ipv4ilink.net [89.115.144.183])
[00:26:19] <kinga_> sorry for my noobiness >.<
[00:30:29] <xpeed> wich RBLs do you guys use ?
[00:37:30] <lunaphyte> !tell xpeed zen
[00:37:30] <knoba> xpeed: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL. Testing your DNSBL lookup can be done here: http://www.crynwr.com/spam/
[00:39:21] <kinga_> eh...i think i'll retry this tomorrow
[00:39:25] <kinga_> thanks anyway guys
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[00:42:23] <dall> what could it be ?
[00:43:29] <jimpop> dall: exactly what it says. Relay access is being denied
[00:43:44] <jimpop> dall: do you understand what relay access is ?
[00:44:23] <Penderecki> Good morning/afternoon/evening/etc everyone =o
[00:45:36] <Penderecki> This is the only thing that ends up in my syslog when I try sending myself an email: setting up TLS connection from mail-iw0-f176.google.com[209.85.214.176] and here is my conf: http://pastebin.com/VHg7eStK
[00:45:41] <Penderecki> No email is received
[00:45:53] <dall> YES
[00:46:05] <dall> Jimpop, yes
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[00:46:40] <jimpop> dall: do you want to allow that host to relay through your postfix?
[00:46:55] <dall> yes
[00:47:09] <dall> jimpop, smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
[00:47:28] <jimpop> dall: is the host in mynetworks?
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[00:48:01] <jimpop> dall: or does the client on that host perform auth?
[00:48:11] <dall> hmmm, no mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128
[00:48:21] <dall> i'm tring to send an email from my account to @gmail.com
[00:48:36] <rob0> !relay_denied
[00:48:36] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[00:48:59] <rob0> !tell Penderecki no_logs
[00:48:59] <knoba> Penderecki: "no_logs" : Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.
[00:50:45] <dall> rob0, yes is not listed...on virtual_mailbox_domains...i have put MY DOMAINS... now i have to send and email from my domain to @gmail.com
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[00:54:29] <Penderecki> I believe!tell Penderecki logs
[00:54:35] <Penderecki> !tell Penderecki logs
[00:54:35] <knoba> Penderecki: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung
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[00:56:26] <Penderecki> I do have logs, though. It says there's a connect coming in then it says setting TLS connection and ends there. I believe it may have something to do with that TLS connection
[01:01:09] <dall> jimpop?
[01:01:14] <dall> rob0?
[01:01:18] <jimpop> dall: what?
[01:01:38] <dall> are my rescrictions wrong?
[01:02:43] <jimpop> dall: if you want a host/client to relay thru your system, and that host/client is not listed in mynetworks nor is it auth'ing, then yes your config is wrong
[01:02:54] <jimpop> !tell dall relay_denied
[01:02:54] <knoba> dall: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[01:04:02] <dall> jimpop can i accept al the host? i don't want to "block" my accounts
[01:04:45] <jimpop> dall: what?
[01:04:56] <tharkun> !tell dall SOHO
[01:04:56] <knoba> dall: "SOHO" : Small/home office hints and tips: http://www.postfix.org/SOHO_README.html
[01:05:20] <tharkun> dall: you will find your solution and an explanation of what you actually need on the previous link
[01:05:28] <dall> i mean...i don't what to block the "sending" of my account
[01:05:29] <dall> k
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[01:09:23] <dall> jimpop, could i use it wil i'm using virtual mailbox ?
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[01:13:29] <jimpop> dall: i'm not sure what your problem is. need configs and logs. please see /topic
[01:14:07] <dall> jimpop,
[01:14:08] <dall> http://serverfault.com/questions/269606/postfix-and-dovecot-receving-ok-sending-ko
[01:15:16] <jimpop> dall: is thunderbird running on the same host as postfix and dovecot?
[01:16:13] <jimpop> dall: ??
[01:16:58] <dall> no
[01:17:11] <dall> on my pc
[01:17:17] <dall> postifx is on my vps
[01:17:23] <jimpop> dall: is thunderbird authenticating correctly with postfix (SASL)?
[01:17:34] <dall> dovecot sasl
[01:17:35] <dall> y
[01:18:15] <jimpop> dall: what network interface is dovecot using to communicate with postfix?
[01:18:48] <jimpop> dall: because the configs I see only allow dovecot to communicate with postfix on localost/127.0.0.1
[01:19:09] <dall> what you mean with "interface" ?
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[01:19:33] <jimpop> dall: network interface (eth0, lo0, etc)
[01:19:37] <Matadore> hello
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[01:20:00] <dall> i think eth0
[01:20:05] <jimpop> dall: i don't know anything about dovecot, what you are discribing sounds like a dovecot config issue.
[01:20:05] <dall> how can i check it ?
[01:20:09] <Matadore> I wanted to know if the fallback_relay in postfix forwards hard bounes also? or just deferred/errored out sends?
[01:20:16] <jimpop> dall: use tcpdump to verify
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[01:21:08] <Penderecki> Okay I finally got some updates on my Syslog -
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[01:21:18] <Penderecki> It says SSL_accept error from ns1.m05.siteground.biz[69.175.58.162]: -1
[01:21:21] <jimpop> dall: also try adding the IP address associated with eth0 to mynetworks
[01:21:35] <Matadore> Does anyone know if "fallback_relay" in postfix does it ignore hard bounces?
[01:22:45] <dall> ok but do i have to add the autorized ip addresses?
[01:22:59] <dall> i would only check the user and password without the IP
[01:24:42] <jimpop> dall: i believe you need to add the IP address that dovecot is using to connect to postfix.
[01:25:20] <dall> i0m searching a guide postfix/dovecot
[01:26:23] <dall> i go
[01:26:26] <dall> thank you
[01:26:28] <dall> see you soon
[01:26:30] <dall> goodbye
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[01:49:36] <tharkun> seekwill: ping
[01:50:52] <seekwill> tharkun: pong
[01:51:36] <rob0> tharpong
[01:51:42] <tharkun> I have this new BB icon about Available upgrades from version 4.6.1.272 to 5.0.0.1036 What does it mean?
[01:51:49] <rob0> seekping
[01:51:51] <tharkun> rob0: hi, how are the bees?
[01:52:09] <rob0> busy, so am I, job hunting, sigh.
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[01:52:41] <tharkun> rob0: Hope you find something interesting soon
[01:52:52] <tharkun> seekwill: any ideas?
[01:53:16] <seekwill> tharkun: Sounds like a BB OS upgrade
[01:53:54] <rob0> interest is no longer a concern. I might have to settle for flipping burgers.
[01:54:03] <tharkun> Yes, you are right, I'll try to manage a backukp and then do the upgrade. Although app world disappeared this morning without trace
[01:54:09] <seekwill> tharkun: Hmm... I'm on version 6 though
[01:54:21] <seekwill> I thought you had a new-ish phone
[01:54:30] <rob0> But, we can take heart in what dall says about his new job at gmail ... yikes!
[01:54:38] <tharkun> It is brand new. The model seems to be quite old :D
[01:56:16] <tharkun> BB bold 8520 ... Not precisely the flagship of BB but a fully funcitional one ;P
[01:56:17] <seekwill> oh
[01:56:28] <seekwill> I think the Bold is the flagship
[01:56:31] <seekwill> I only have the Curve
[01:56:38] <seekwill> But newer, if the numbers mean anything
[01:56:38] <tharkun> I mean it is a Curve
[01:56:42] <seekwill> oh
[01:56:49] <seekwill> I have the 9330 Curve
[01:57:04] <tharkun> ohh nice one the keys are a bit further appart
[01:57:45] <seekwill> I think so
[01:57:59] <seekwill> I miss my Pearl flip
[01:59:06] <tharkun> I haven't seen that one yet
[02:00:57] <seekwill> oh, the new flip is lame
[02:01:08] <tharkun> seekwill: FWIW http://bbssh.org/ nice ssh client :D
[02:01:27] <seekwill> ooh
[02:01:53] <seekwill> I use my iPad for ssh :)
[02:02:01] <tharkun> Although i find that accessing to lower ports is quite problematic from my isp so i setted up a few high ports to achieve that.
[02:02:07] <tharkun> seekwill: i hate you
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[02:02:27] <tharkun> seekwill: you finally bought the ipad 2 right?
[02:02:57] <seekwill> You know I'm going to send you a picture now...
[02:03:10] <tharkun> lol
[02:03:30] <seekwill> Yep... 64GB + 3G
[02:04:50] <tharkun> What is the ssh app named?
[02:05:03] <seekwill> iSSH, duh!
[02:05:22] * tharkun looks for his brain. Left it somewhere
[02:06:09] <adaptr> ask the right, perhaps it was jealous
[02:06:55] <tharkun> seekwill: thanks i just found iX11 exactly what i was looking for :D
[02:07:27] <seekwill> ??
[02:08:55] <rob0> seekhate
[02:09:08] <adaptr> hateping
[02:09:11] <tharkun> Xserver for the ipad. I have some graphical apps running on unix that a client wants to take a look at them from his ipad
[02:09:33] <seekwill> ugh
[02:10:12] <adaptr> nasty
[02:10:26] <tharkun> Too bad i can't test it on my ipod touch G1
[02:10:32] <seekwill> hah
[02:10:54] <seekwill> Does it have iOS2?
[02:11:08] <adaptr> ....or 4
[02:11:09] <seekwill> My sister is similar. Can't get to iOS4 or something
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[02:12:02] <tharkun> it has iOS2 People at macstore told me that it was not possible to upgrade it to iOS3 let alone 4
[02:12:10] <seekwill> Yeah
[02:12:48] <adaptr> oh, the touch g1 is the same as the iphone 1
[02:12:53] <adaptr> I have one of those :)
[02:13:00] <adaptr> I think 2 is the max there, yes
[02:14:00] <tharkun> Quite frustrating. Lots of games for the kids that are unable to load because 3.1 is required :(
[02:14:44] <tharkun> Speaking of which. See you guys later
[02:14:46] <seekwill> I like your stickers
[02:16:36] <tharkun> My daughter putted them there
[02:17:49] <seekwill> I don't have stickers :(
[02:18:08] <seekwill> I want rainbows and unicorn stickers!!! I think thumbs might have some I can have
[02:18:28] <adaptr> somebody throw up a URL to that fucking unicorn strip
[02:18:32] <tharkun> My daughter has a few of those. I will ask her for them
[02:18:35] <adaptr> Steve ? no, what ?
[02:18:50] <seekwill> tharkun: lol :)
[02:19:38] <seekwill> tharkun: Interested in the PlayBook?
[02:20:08] <tharkun> Yes specially since it can run lots of android apps
[02:20:50] <seekwill> My only worry with it is that I don't think it's going to save RIM... :(
[02:22:11] <Penderecki> I found a helpful error, but I have no idea what it means: warning: TLS library problem: 751:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_srvr.c:584:
[02:23:09] <tharkun> The question is not if the PlayBook will save rim or not. Will your PlayBook outlive RIM or not.
[02:24:40] <seekwill> lol
[02:24:54] <seekwill> Just get an iPad LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE WORLD :)
[02:25:30] <tharkun> go to go now see you later
[02:25:36] <seekwill> later
[02:27:31] <adaptr> the galaxy pad is exactly the same price. and runs android, a not-stupid OS.
[02:27:44] <adaptr> it's smaller though, but I may just get one to run my XBMC remote from
[02:27:57] <adaptr> finally dump the keyboard I use in front of the TV
[02:29:12] <seekwill> I don't watch TV
[02:29:32] <seekwill> It would be nice to be able to keep up with local news or something
[02:31:11] <adaptr> I don't watch "TV", no. I do watch the 8-odd TB of tv series and movies I have
[02:31:24] <adaptr> you can get news on your phone
[02:31:40] <adaptr> fuck, if you tune your tin foil hat right you can even pluck it out of the air
[02:31:41] <seekwill> I can get it on my pad too... not the same
[02:31:47] <seekwill> Not anymore...
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[03:34:35] <Matadore> Does anyone know if "fallback_relay" in postfix does it ignore hard bounces?
[04:10:12] <seekwill> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#fallback_relay
[04:10:37] <seekwill> Looks like it would
[04:11:05] <seekwill> By default, mail is returned to the sender when a destination is not found, and delivery is deferred when a destination is unreachable
[04:12:20] <adaptr> Matadore: fallback_relay doesn't ignore anything
[04:16:00] <seekwill> fallback_relay ignores me :(
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[04:23:04] <Matadore> anyway to prevent the fallback relay from repeating a hard bounce?
[04:37:06] <seekwill> Why do you think it is?
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[05:01:59] <Matadore> seekwill: i am currently configuring multiple instances, i havent tested yet.. i just wanted to mke sure .. if a hard bounce comes in.. that it doesnt get forwarded an damages sending reputation
[05:04:08] <seekwill> Matadore: Reading the docs, it doesn't look like it would
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[12:16:11] <dall> hello guys!
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[13:07:50] <dall> hey guys i get this error: Sending of message failed.
[13:07:50] <dall> The SMTP server mail.mxadmin.net does not allow plaintext passwords. Please try changing to 'Encrypted password' as the 'Authentication method' in the 'Account Settings | Server settings'.
[13:08:10] <dall> i used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto
[13:11:07] <Aprogas> !tutorial
[13:11:07] <knoba> Aprogas: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
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[13:11:27] <dall> Aprogas, wrong
[13:11:40] <dall> I get other errors and i fix them
[13:11:46] <dall> this is the "last" :)
[13:11:59] <dall> i'm becaming postifx guru
[13:12:01] <dall> ahahah :)
[13:12:02] <Aprogas> Check the topic for instructions on how to get help.
[13:14:29] <dall> ok boss
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[13:29:07] <dall> Aprogas, sent!!!
[13:29:16] <dall> works! but gmail put it in the spam list
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[13:30:07] <dall> maybe because i'm using a wrong ssl cert
[13:34:24] <dall> works... ok.
[13:34:27] <Mark22> dall: that is possible the reason (but also check rDNS and content (and the network you use)
[13:34:47] <dall> Mark22 ok perfect
[13:35:11]
[13:35:20] <dall> *to the recipient
[13:35:27] <dall> why ?
[13:37:51] <Mark22> dall: do you use UTF-8 or something like that?
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[13:56:45] <dall> Mark22, excuse me
[13:56:53] <dall> (long call)
[13:57:10] <dall> yes i would like to use utf8 always, can i set it to postfix?
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[14:02:47] <Matadore> dall: i believe u can set it in headers
[14:03:42] <dall> Metadore, i see --> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed <--- on the email i set
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[14:09:34] <bodom> Hi there
[14:09:44] <bodom> I've just configured postfix as a backup MX for a domain
[14:10:04] <bodom> I'm wondering if there's a way to tell it what the primary MX IP is
[14:12:39] <Zerberus> bodom: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#backup
[14:13:04] <Zerberus> bodom: while backup MX setup is an obsolete concept these days
[14:13:58] <Zerberus> dall: postfix does not care for the payload, that's the job of the MUA
[14:14:16] <dall> ah ok
[14:14:40] <dall> but strange i'm using thunderbird with many account...only the my account (my postfix) has these problems
[14:15:48] <bodom> Zerberus: Well, I understand, and that's what I've done. But also, I'm trying to tell postfix that mail for domain xyz should be sent to 1.2.3.4
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[14:16:26] <Zerberus> bodom: you did not read the readme I pointed you to
[14:17:13] <bodom> Zerberus: I have to read the whole readme?
[14:17:49] <Zerberus> bodom: the part(s) you are interested in at least
[14:18:27] <bodom> Zerberus: I've read those parts and looks like they doesn't contain my answer, or, at least, I couldn't catch it
[14:19:14] <Zerberus> bodom: for which reason do you think the secondary MX does need to have the primary MX's IP in his config?
[14:19:31] <Zerberus> bodom: what do you think the MX records in DNS are for?
[14:20:37] <bodom> Zerberus: well, but for some weird reason I'm gonna list primary MX as secondary in DNS record and vice-versa, so, if I let secondary MX trust DNS, it will cause mail loops
[14:21:23] <bodom> sending mail to itself
[14:22:19] <Zerberus> bodom: I don't get what your DNS setup is, sounds unlogic, even impossible as contradictory
[14:22:36] <Zerberus> bodom: if you are causing loops you have not read and comprehended the postfix readme
[14:24:06] <bodom> Zerberus: What I'm trying to accomplish is having all mail for domain a sento to secondary MX, and having secondary MX forwarding it to a different MX
[14:24:44] <Zerberus> bodom: so you try to setup a relay MX, not a secondary
[14:26:01] <bodom> mhhh
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[14:27:30] <dall> guys....
[14:27:51] <dall> someone coul dtell me if the DNS Of mxadmin.net are correct?
[14:28:16] <dall> i'm reading the source of an email... and i see
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[14:29:15] <dall> Received: from mail.mxadmin.net (116.xxx.104.xxx.static.xxxx.com [xxx.104.xxx.116]
[14:29:37]
[14:29:44] <dall> how is it possible?
[14:30:00] <Zerberus> mail.mxadmin.net has address 93.104.211.190
[14:30:28] <dall> exact!
[14:30:38] <dall> why this different IP ?
[14:30:46] <dall> Received: from mail.mxadmin.net (116.xxx.104.xxx.static.xxxx.com [xxx.104.xxx.116] <----
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[14:31:27] <Zerberus> dall: you did change the zone info and other DNS did not get it
[14:31:39] <Zerberus> the serial in the SOA look weird
[14:31:54] <dall> i'm not using BIND...I change it using name.com
[14:33:50] <dall> what could it be?
[14:35:43] <Zerberus> can't verify what the other rDNS is
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[14:38:31] <dall> Zerberus, whay you can't ?
[14:38:39] <dall> some problem? wrong configuration ?
[14:38:55] <Zerberus> dall: no, you obfuscated the info
[14:39:02] <dall> aaaah
[14:39:04] <dall> one moment
[14:39:05] <dall> pvt
[14:39:52] <bodom> Zerberus: I've checked relay doc, but looks like I still end up with my original problem: how to tell postfix what's the relay host for a domain
[14:39:53] <dall> *sent
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[14:45:43] <bodom> Well, looks like "use transport maps" is my answer. found it myself, ty anyway
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[15:06:28] <lampe345> hey my server is getting spamed. the spam is gettint rejected but i still got a out traffic only for mail about 1 GB but on this server is nothing runing is maybe postfix sending a mail to the spamers ?
[15:08:40] <geek_cl> lampe345 check mailq
[15:14:33] <geek_cl> lampe345
[15:16:24] <lampe345> geek_cl, yes
[15:16:38] <lampe345> iam not using mailq as mail server
[15:17:43] <Zerberus> hrhrhr
[15:17:57] <geek_cl> x.o
[15:18:05] <Zerberus> lampe345: do you have any idea about Postfix or was it just preinstalled?
[15:18:39] <lampe345> Zerberus, sry that this is my first postfix setup ...
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[15:20:28] <Zerberus> lampe345: no excuse, you have to understand the components of your MTA, you would have to know that the queue mananager is a main part, that you can check the queue with the mailq command, how to find and read the mail log ...
[15:21:34] <lampe345> Zerberus, the mail log is getting in 1 hour about 100 mb this are thusend lines of code
[15:21:46] <lampe345> and the mail queue is empty
[15:21:53] <Zerberus> lampe345: then stop your MTA
[15:22:29] <lampe345> Zerberus, how can help this ?
[15:22:55] <Zerberus> lampe345: it will prevent the mail log to grow and you have time to read what happened so far
[15:23:18] <Zerberus> it will help even if there is a major issue with your Postfix and you are hitting innocent third parties
[15:23:58] <lampe345> with tail: May 14 15:25:33 internetinnventions postfix/smtpd[14586]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from fortunecare.com.ph[61.28.150.141]: 554 5.7.1 <numtan597 at hotmail dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<jhuqu at yahoo-inc dot com> to=<numtan597 at hotmail dot com> proto=SMTP helo=<fortunecare.com.ph>
[15:24:48] <Zerberus> lampe345: that's a rejected relay attempt
[15:25:04] <geek_cl> i repeat, check mailq
[15:25:20] <lampe345> geek_cl, i repeat mailq is empty
[15:25:43] <lampe345> 0 Kbytes in 0 Requests
[15:26:28] <geek_cl> then they are having a party with your server eh
[15:29:49] <lampe345> i thought that spamassassin is blocking it
[15:31:15] <Zerberus> lampe345: spamassassin is not blocking, it just classifies mail as ham or spam
[15:33:25] <lampe345> so iam a spam server right now ?
[15:35:50] <Zerberus> lampe345: does your mail log say so?
[15:37:12] <lampe345> it says Relay access denied
[15:37:47] <Zerberus> lampe345: it says "NOQUEUE: reject"
[15:38:08] <Zerberus> lampe345: so being postmaster you should know without a doubt what that means
[15:39:16] <lampe345> i thought that the message is rejected by my server
[15:40:32] <Zerberus> it is
[15:43:13] <lampe345> hm
[15:44:37] <lampe345> is there anything i can do or must i wait until they stop ?
[15:46:43] * geek_cl ....
[15:48:01] <Zerberus> lampe345: you may have been an open relay and this is still the result of the bots knowing you
[15:48:32] <Zerberus> lampe345: check from which sources the attempts are coming and evaluate to firewall them if possible
[15:49:39] <lampe345> Zerberus, you mean to block the ip's ?
[15:49:53] <Zerberus> lampe345: sure
[15:50:29] <Zerberus> but that only makes sense of it is not an army of bots hitting your MTA
[15:50:42] <lampe345> Zerberus, okay thx sry for my noobish questions bot iam not a mailadmin a friend asked me cause the server was lagging
[15:51:59] <Zerberus> lampe345: not being a mechanic I would not do a car repair for a friend - but consult someone with the proper knowledge
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[15:52:49] <geek_cl> i hope your friend buy some beers
[15:54:17] <lampe345> i dont wanted to do this but the other guy how do this is on vacation
[15:54:41] <lampe345> i hope too that i get some beer =)
[15:55:52] <lampe345> the problem was to that this is a server with multidomian's and zarafa ...
[15:58:06] <lampe345> can i take the ips from mail.warn ?
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[16:17:49] <dall> guys i have a doubt, could i only set a TXT record for SPF or do i also have to install postfix-policyd-spf-perl package?
[16:18:27] <wdp_> depends on what you wanna do.
[16:18:41] <wdp_> the txt record at the domain is there, for tools/mailers which check your spf record.
[16:18:54] <wdp_> the policy service is there, to check incoming mails.
[16:20:36] <dall> aaah to check SPF Of other
[16:20:45] <dall> understand
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[16:48:41] <jumperboy> lampe345: are you trying to troubleshoot a performance issue?
[16:49:51] <lampe345> jumperboy, since the spamers are not sending thounsend of mails the server runs fast as hell =)
[16:51:03] <jumperboy> k, i was going to suggest looking for authentication failures, i've noticed an increase in brute force authentication attempts
[16:51:20] <dall> guys a linux command to see all the DNS of a domain?
[16:53:13] <jumperboy> dall: dig axfr example.com
[16:53:27] <jumperboy> note that a zone transfer should not work on a correctly configured domain
[16:53:40] <jumperboy> unless allowed to certain hosts
[16:55:22] <dall> can i also see MX record with DIG ?
[16:55:33] <jumperboy> dig mx example.com
[16:55:45] <jumperboy> host example.com will often show the mx, too
[16:56:18] <dall> ok thank you
[16:56:25] <dall> seem my dns are configured correctly
[16:57:33] <dall> i just added SPF
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[18:30:58] <overrider> On a mail filtering gateway I need to enforce that about4Users at domain dot com can send to someusers at samedomain dot com , and basically silently drop or bounce all other mail. Which parameters or files do i look at to get started? Its easy to deny mail from some addresses, but how do i allow some and deny all others, eg a default deny...
[18:31:36] <adaptr> !tell overrider mantras
[18:31:36] <knoba> overrider: "mantras" : 1. do not accept mail that you do not intend to deliver. 2. do not drop mail. 3. do not use wildcards or catchalls.
[18:32:03] <adaptr> so this is a mail filtering gateway for... 4 addresses ?
[18:33:01] <overrider> i have a "secure room", inside sit 4 people that are only allowed to send to selected e-mail addresses, and are also only allowed to receive mail from selected e-mail address. I am not sure how to solve this best.
[18:33:27] <adaptr> !tell overrider postfwd
[18:33:27] <knoba> overrider: "postfwd" : http://postfwd.org/ : A Postfix policy daemon to combine complex restrictions in a ruleset. See also http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html
[18:33:35] <adaptr> that might be the easiest way
[18:33:49] <standon> postfwd++
[18:42:02] <overrider> ok will look into it, gracias
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[19:47:44] <vaq> Hello, is it possible to have postfix auto-create e-mail accounts once the first e-mail is received?
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[19:48:51] <jumperboy> vaq: it's possible for something to do it, depends on your system
[19:48:52] <xpeed> it will create the mailbox, but not the account. and i will not suggest such feature.
[19:49:31] <vaq> I need it to create the account
[19:49:38] <vaq> jumperboy: like what?
[19:51:36] <jumperboy> it would involve your LDA, so what's your backend?
[19:52:34] <vaq> local users, procmail.
[19:52:47] <xpeed> What advantages would such setting had instead of automating the creation of the accounts via a script or something ?
[19:53:03] <xpeed> has*
[19:54:29] <vaq> xpeed: Because I have a backup system that sends reports to mail accounts, I monitor the mail account for changes in the backup
[19:54:39] <vaq> xpeed: I don't want to setup the mail account manually
[19:55:14] <vaq> so if I sent an email to a at a dot tld and the account doesn't exist already, it should add it, and deliver the mail
[19:55:17] <vaq> is that possible?
[19:56:26] <xpeed> how the software knoes to wich accounts send the reports ?
[19:56:53] <xpeed> knows*
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[19:57:58] <jumperboy> any reason they have to be separate accounts? you could use a wildcard with some restrictions and send to one account for later filtering in the email client.
[19:58:18] <jumperboy> even better, just sort on subject into folders in one account
[19:59:22] <jumperboy> dynamically creating accounts seems like an inefficient solution
[19:59:37] <vaq> xpeed: Because I define the accounts where the mails should go to
[19:59:42] <lunaphyte> none of that makes any sense. creating accounts when mail arrives is stupid.
[19:59:51] <lunaphyte> !tell vaq goal
[19:59:51] <knoba> vaq: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is
[20:00:35] <vaq> I asked if it was possible, not your opinion, did I?
[20:01:10] <lunaphyte> lose the attitude.
[20:01:31] <vaq> No problem.
[20:01:33] <lunaphyte> you're not going to get help here doing dumb things.
[20:01:49] <vaq> It's not a dump solution, it is was I need.
[20:02:00] <vaq> dumb*
[20:02:18] <jumperboy> how do prevent proliferation of accounts?
[20:02:23] <kenyon> besides, anything is possible if you want to spend the time developing it
[20:02:23] <lunaphyte> no, it's what you've decided the solution to your *actual* problem is.
[20:02:38] <lunaphyte> now - ask for help with the *actual* problem, and you'll likely get good help.
[20:03:23] <vaq> jumperboy: it's an internal server, not internet connection. So I know what mails are going to be received by it.
[20:03:49] <jumperboy> k, but why separate accounts?
[20:03:52] <vaq> lunaphyte: I understand, but my question was if it's possible to do with postfix, if there's any such feature.
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[20:04:20] <lunaphyte> no. it's not possible.
[20:04:34] <vaq> jumperboy: Because our corporate monitor solution will monitor each mail account for changes in the mail report, if anything changes it will alert us.
[20:04:50] <vaq> jumperboy: so one mail account for each backup account.
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[20:06:09] <jumperboy> so you want an account created for each client?
[20:06:19] <vaq> exactly.
[20:06:31] <lunaphyte> this should be done ahead of time, as part of the provisioning process.
[20:06:37] <lunaphyte> do it right, not lazy.
[20:07:35] <jumperboy> my advice would be to use an issue tracking system, instead. allow clients to access relevant messages via issue tracker, send notifications via issue tracker, etc.
[20:08:22] <jumperboy> then have the backup system use special subjects and assign issues to right client based on that
[20:08:39] <vaq> alright
[20:09:00] <lunaphyte> and, no surprise, no that we get to the *actual* issue, there begins to appear some sanity.
[20:09:15] <vaq> lunaphyte: lose the attitude.
[20:09:34] <lunaphyte> excuse me?
[20:09:49] <lunaphyte> i think you better just head along.
[20:10:22] <vaq> no need.
[20:10:29] <jumperboy> so the mail would be sent to something like support at example dot com with subject "Backup notice for Joe Client"
[20:10:45] <vaq> jumperboy: ye, I'll do thtat.
[20:11:11] <jumperboy> and that would trigger a notification to the client address on record. more flexible that way.
[20:11:57] <jumperboy> nice thing about that is it maintains a history if your client's support personnel change or they add consultants, etc.
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