September 24, 2010 
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September 24, 2010 [00:01:21] *** TomHome has quit IRC[00:11:23] *** rhenz has joined #postfix[00:14:07] *** henriknj has quit IRC[00:15:59] *** misterjack has quit IRC[00:18:03] *** Matic`Makovec has quit IRC[00:19:15] *** Section1 has quit IRC[00:32:17] *** Alagar has joined #postfix[00:36:32] *** Tashia has joined #postfix[00:37:51] <Tashia> !standard[00:37:51] <knoba> Tashia: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[00:38:05] *** Tashia has quit IRC[00:42:28] *** Aprogas has quit IRC[01:11:50] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[01:11:50] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[01:17:19] *** forsberg is now known as fOrsberg[01:23:06] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[01:40:18] *** skyweb has left #postfix[01:44:28] *** Sky[x] has quit IRC[01:46:07] *** bimbo has joined #postfix[01:46:39] <bimbo> hello, is there a way to see how many emails where sent by day through smtp server?[01:47:08] <bimbo> I think it can be done by "parsing" the logs, but that task sounds a little bit tedious[01:47:09] <tharkun> use a log analyzer[01:47:55] <tharkun> lire or awstats are two good options[01:50:56] <bimbo> tharkun: haven't seen that, awstats is actually running :p[01:50:59] <bimbo> thanks for the tip[01:54:32] *** tharkun has quit IRC[02:01:54] *** sebuba has joined #postfix[02:02:18] *** sebuba has quit IRC[02:03:13] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[02:05:00] *** i is now known as nb[02:14:36] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[02:14:36] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[02:18:24] *** Aprogas has joined #postfix[02:26:56] *** mroe has joined #postfix[02:28:59] *** robotarmy has quit IRC[02:52:51] *** bluethundr_ has quit IRC[02:55:37] *** bimbo has left #postfix[03:00:51] *** axisys has quit IRC[03:05:00] *** jeremymcs has joined #postfix[03:05:02] *** axisys has joined #postfix[03:15:37] *** Tom-B has quit IRC[03:22:17] *** aindilis2 has joined #postfix[03:35:03] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[03:38:37] *** wdp has quit IRC[03:42:03] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[03:42:03] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[03:58:20] *** astinus has quit IRC[04:00:37] *** astinus has joined #postfix[04:02:31] *** shaggystyle has joined #postfix[04:05:15] *** astinus has quit IRC[04:05:17] <shaggystyle> !welcome[04:05:17] <knoba> shaggystyle: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[04:06:04] *** astinus has joined #postfix[04:06:39] *** rajijoom has joined #postfix[04:09:20] *** rajijoom has quit IRC[04:10:44] *** astinus has quit IRC[04:11:29] *** astinus has joined #postfix[04:11:36] *** astinus has quit IRC[04:11:36] *** astinus has joined #postfix[04:16:33] *** astinus has quit 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#postfix[05:32:23] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[05:33:28] *** GOrshkOFF has joined #postfix[05:34:28] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[05:36:16] *** astinus has joined #postfix[05:37:46] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[05:37:47] *** ServerCrash has joined #postfix[05:38:26] *** jeremymcs has joined #postfix[05:39:31] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[05:41:05] *** astinus has quit IRC[05:42:07] *** friskd has quit IRC[05:42:35] *** MAAAAAD has quit IRC[05:51:45] <ServerCrash> hi anyone awake?[05:52:40] <ServerCrash> need to know when to use postmulti (multiinstance) and when to use sender_dependent_default_transport_maps[05:53:11] <ServerCrash> can some one share some light on these, i think both are methods for sending mails that are related to a specific domain[05:54:53] <mroe> I'm awake but as I am running a version older than one that supports postmulti I never really looked into it[05:55:30] <lunaphyte> generally, if you're not sure whether or not you should be using postmulti, that means you shouldn't be using it.[05:58:00] <ServerCrash> well i am trying to understand if sender_dependent_default_transport_maps takes away the requirement of postmulti[05:58:25] <ServerCrash> because postmulti was used to created multiple instances where each ip will bind to a specific instance[05:58:38] <lunaphyte> that's not what postmulti is for.[05:58:59] <ServerCrash> lunaphyte, well thats why most of the people used multiple instances[05:59:17] <ServerCrash> so that each instance can be further tuned as per requiremetns[05:59:17] <lunaphyte> how would you know?[05:59:37] <lunaphyte> a single instance of postfix is perfectly capable of using more than one network interface.[05:59:44] <ServerCrash> well search postmulti on google, and most of the implementations shows its used for that[06:00:21] <lunaphyte> sure. most people writing howtos and tutorials shouldn't be. that's the norm, unfortunately.[06:00:23] <ServerCrash> yes a single instance is capable of using more than one network interface but then it didnt provided binding mail to a specific ip[06:00:34] *** astinus_ has joined #postfix[06:00:34] *** astinus_ has quit IRC[06:00:34] *** astinus_ has joined #postfix[06:00:54] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:00:58] *** cillybabe has joined #postfix[06:01:08] <ServerCrash> i a newbie, so i might not be knowing much, but thats what i came to understanding from last 24hrs reading arround postfix[06:02:30] <lunaphyte> sure it does.[06:02:41][06:04:11] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:04:43] *** astinus_ has quit IRC[06:05:10] *** astinus_ has joined #postfix[06:06:04] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[06:07:28] <ServerCrash> lunaphyte, any experience with sender_dependent_defualt_transport_maps?[06:09:53] *** astinus_ has quit IRC[06:16:28] *** astinus_ has joined #postfix[06:16:33] *** astinus_ has quit IRC[06:16:33] *** astinus_ has joined #postfix[06:35:42] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[06:39:04] *** szonek has quit IRC[06:43:47] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[06:51:11] *** 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#postfix[09:22:32] *** freaky[t] has quit IRC[09:26:02] *** VaNNi has quit IRC[09:26:50] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[09:26:58] *** VaNNi has joined #postfix[09:27:20] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[09:27:52] *** freaky[t] has joined #postfix[09:29:00] <sysmonk> hm, guys, got a question![09:29:24] <sysmonk> postfix supports (and must support) sending to an IP address (i.e. email at [1 dot 2.3.4])[09:29:42] <sysmonk> that works fine for ipv4, but i can't manage to mail to an ipv6 address ;/ i get bad address syntax all the time[09:30:08] <sysmonk> tried test@xx:xx:xx:xx and test@[xx:xx:xx:xx:xx][09:34:39] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[09:35:41] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[09:37:39] *** Qwert_ has joined #postfix[09:39:15] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[09:40:08] *** qwert has quit IRC[09:42:41] *** Qwert_ has quit IRC[09:48:54] <ichdasich> sysmonk: test@[xx:xx:xx:xx:xx] like test@[xx:xx:xx:xx::xx]?[09:50:03] *** juergen_dose has quit IRC[09:53:41] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[09:54:06] <sysmonk> ichdasich: yes[09:54:14] <sysmonk> ichdasich: you think i'd need to use the full ipv6?[09:54:16] <sysmonk> lemme try[09:55:27] <sysmonk> nope, full ipv6 doesn't work either[09:55:42] <sysmonk> (btw, i can give you a server to test it out on if you wish)[09:57:53] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[09:59:21] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[09:59:25] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[10:02:11] *** fOrsberg is now known as forsberg[10:08:31] *** meero has joined #postfix[10:08:46] <sysmonk> blah, i don't have any ideas anymore[10:09:22] <meero> what directive to use in postfix main.cf to be able to authenticate using user/pass when sending email?[10:10:02] <ServerCrash> how to disable relay, right now i am able to send as even billgates at microsoft dot com ...:([10:10:58] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[10:11:54] <Qwert> Is there a channel for openDNS?[10:13:47] <UQlev> meero, block of directives re sasl[10:16:07] <sysmonk> ichdasich: after reading some sources it seems that IPV6:xxx:xx:xx:xx should work[10:16:14] <meero> UQlev could you be pls more specific?[10:17:23] *** benteaa has joined #postfix[10:17:30] *** henriknj has quit IRC[10:18:13] <UQlev> meero, http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=8[10:18:51] <UQlev> meero, it depends of sasl method, password storage etc.[10:18:59] *** Qwert has quit IRC[10:19:26] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[10:20:05] <meero> UQlev thanks[10:22:05] <sysmonk> ichdasich: so the correct syntax issss ..... rcpt to:<something@[IPV6:aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:gg]>[10:28:07] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[10:28:52] *** eye69 has quit IRC[10:33:17] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[10:36:12] *** Jippi_moc has joined #postfix[10:38:34] *** eye69 has quit IRC[10:39:18] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[10:43:16] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[10:44:17] *** eye69 has quit IRC[10:44:25] *** meero has quit IRC[10:45:21] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[10:45:31] <ichdasich> sysmonk: yeah, but don't forget some :: between the last two packs, if you left at least one out ;-)[10:49:01] <sysmonk> ichdasich: i tried the short version xx::xx and the long version xx:00:00:00:00:00:00:xx[10:49:25] *** mac2k has joined #postfix[10:50:17] <ichdasich> sysmonk: wasn't that clear from your paste ;-)[10:52:32] *** riversky has quit IRC[10:52:56] *** UQlev_ has joined #postfix[10:53:33] <mac2k> hi@, i'm installing postfix letting it drop mails in the users home directory, now i also would like to have it crypted und no automounting stuff, now my question, someone know what postfix does if is starts and home is not mounted? will it deliver the malils as soon as i mount home?[10:53:42] <sysmonk> ichdasich: well, i thought this line clarified it :) 09-24 11:03:03 < sysmonk> nope, full ipv6 doesn't work either[10:53:46] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[10:54:47] *** cillybabe is now known as cilly[10:55:03] *** UQlev_ has quit IRC[10:55:46] *** UQlev has quit IRC[10:55:54] *** riversky has joined #postfix[10:56:19] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[10:59:33] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[11:00:42] *** hever has quit IRC[11:01:09] *** hever has joined #postfix[11:03:01] *** henriknj has quit IRC[11:09:22] <ServerCrash> i am trying to add dkim milter to postfix[11:09:50] <ServerCrash> i doc that i am following says smtpd_milters = unix:/var/run/dkim-milter/dkim.sock should be added to main.cf[11:10:35] <ServerCrash> but i see that i have /var/run/dkim-milter/dkim-milter.pid and no dkim.sock :([11:10:47] <ServerCrash> can anyone suggest whats been missing here :([11:11:17] <Aprogas> Tell dkim-milter to create a UNIX socket; or make it listen on TCP and tell Postfix to find it on TCP.[11:11:41] <Aprogas> Especially if you chroot, going via TCP is easier, even though slightly less efficient.[11:12:02] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[11:12:04] <ServerCrash> Aprogas, how to tell dkim to create unix socket? sorry i am new to it[11:12:31] <ServerCrash> can i say posix to read from that pid file[11:12:36] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[11:12:57] <Aprogas> A pid-file just contains a number, it's not very relevant to Postfix.[11:13:13] <Aprogas> Consult the dkim-milter documentation; I have no experience with that tool.[11:14:42] *** tPl0ch has joined #postfix[11:16:51] <tPl0ch> Hello, I am trying to set up postfix on a debian system with plesk to relay emails from a mailserver with a dynamic ip address. But I am getting "535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure". If you could tell me a) what might be wrong and b) what information you would need to eventually help me I would be very thankful.[11:16:53] <ServerCrash> Aprogas, got it :) thnx[11:17:19] <Aprogas> UNIX sockets may be a bit tricky to understand at first, but it's how two applications can talk with eachother.[11:18:05] <Aprogas> tPl0ch: Half of your question is answered in the topic.[11:20:53] *** bianchi has joined #postfix[11:21:59] <bianchi> hi, can someone explain me how to configure logging of successfully send mails, or some mail delivery status for my postfix... so I can be sure that everything is send successfully ?[11:23:21] *** henriknj has quit IRC[11:25:51] <f3ew> bianchi look for status=sent[11:26:49] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:27:08] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[11:28:49] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[11:29:37] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[11:30:12] *** robotarmy has joined #postfix[11:33:05] <bianchi> f3ew, there is no log about my mail message... with any of status[11:33:20] <benteaa> Is there an easy way to modify the non-address part of from? Example: "Cron Daemon" <root at example dot foo> -> "(bar.example.com) Cron daemon" <root at example dot com>[11:33:25] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[11:34:54] *** robotarmy has quit IRC[11:34:55] <Aprogas> benteaa: The mail client is the first place to try and do this.[11:41:02] <benteaa> Thanks for the input, but I'm really asking for info on how to achieve this rewrite with postfix.[11:42:30] *** phetips has joined #postfix[11:42:50] <phetips> I have a question[11:43:05] <Aprogas> !tell benteaa header_checks[11:43:06] <knoba> benteaa: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.[11:43:08] <phetips> !welcome[11:43:08] <knoba> phetips: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[11:44:39] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[11:45:16] *** mac2k has quit IRC[11:45:24] <phetips> I have recently installed postfix 2.7.0-1 on ubuntu 10.04, I had no previous MTA installed. I have tested the SMTP server by connecting with telnet and sending an e-mail. That worked just fine. the /usr/sbin/sendmail binary just doesn't seem to send any mail at all. I have followed the instructions in man sendmail, like this: sendmail -t < testmail.txt (testmail containting to, from and subject headers, and a body.[11:45:44] <phetips> I have no clue as to why i can send mail from the command line of the server directly using sendmail =\[11:46:34] <ServerCrash> Aprogas, where do we define MTA Deamon in postfix ?[11:47:12] <ServerCrash> like i have 3 ips, and i use 3 domains, in sendmail i network binding i created 3MTA[11:48:26] <ServerCrash> is it name that we give in master.conf?[11:51:44] *** henriknj_ has joined #postfix[11:51:50] *** phetips has left #postfix[11:52:05] <benteaa> thanks[11:53:11] *** henriknj has quit IRC[11:54:13] *** phetips has joined #postfix[11:56:26] <phetips> I cannot seem to send any mail using the sendmail binary installed with postfix (2.7.0-1). I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and i didn't have any MTA installed previously[11:56:41] <phetips> I have tested the installation by connection through telnet and sending en e-mail to an external address, that worked[11:57:02] <phetips> but sending e-mail by issuing /usr/sbin/sendmail -t daan at xxx dot nl < testmail.txt[11:57:49] <phetips> where testmail.txt contains "to: daan at xxx dot nl", "subject: test", "from: test at test dot nl" , TEST[11:57:53] <phetips> all on seperate lines[11:57:58] <phetips> just doesn't send anything[11:58:05] <phetips> and no errors in the /var/log/mail.err either[12:02:13] <Aprogas> ServerCrash: I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you talking about which interfaces to bind to?[12:02:29] <ServerCrash> Aprogas, yes[12:02:47] <ServerCrash> i get error saying no MTA match from dkim[12:02:50] <ServerCrash> filter[12:02:59] <phetips> here is my postconf -n : http://pastebin.com/s4TUr6Pb[12:02:59] <Aprogas> phetips: Verify that sendmail binary is the Postfix one. Also check your logs. Also check if you really need Postfix or just a nullclient.[12:03:30] <Aprogas> ServerCrash: I have no experience with DKIM at all, also not with dkim-milter. I'm pretty sure documentation exists on how to integrate it with Postfix though.[12:03:53] *** smoking_kiddo has joined #postfix[12:03:54] *** smoking_kiddo has joined #postfix[12:04:10] <phetips> i have verified that by checking synaptic, the sendmail binary is the one installed with postfix[12:04:20] <Aprogas> phetips: Are you going to receive mail for any domains?[12:04:26] <ServerCrash> Aprogas, yups, thats done :) its just last bit of nitty grity to be taken care off, i know when that error message comes in sendmail, just need to figure how the solution in postfix :)[12:04:44] <phetips> Aprogas: i just want to use it for sending mail on a development box[12:05:54] <Aprogas> !tell phetips nullclient[12:05:55] <knoba> phetips: "nullclient" : a null client is a computer that can only send mail. it receives no mail from the network, and it does not deliver any mail locally. while postfix can be configured to fill this role, it is often unnecessary overkill, and a much simpler software package is more appropriate. see !nullclient_software for more details.[12:06:38] <phetips> Aprogas: thanks[12:07:28] <phetips> oh!, found something in the .log file[12:07:31] <phetips> was looking at the .err one[12:07:33] <phetips> Sep 24 12:14:37 daan-desktop postfix/smtp[2758]: 4AC648204B5: to=<daan at pitgroup dot nl>, relay=smtp.routit.net[89.146.30.26]:25, delay=2.4, delays=0.14/0/2.2/0.01, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host smtp.routit.net[89.146.30.26] said: 501 #5.1.3 Partial domain not allowed: 'daan-desktop' (in reply to MAIL FROM command))[12:07:52] <phetips> how come i can send mail when using telnet though =\[12:08:26] <Aprogas> SMTP does not like unqualified domains. But if you only need a nullclient, uninstall Postfix and install a nullclient.[12:08:42] <phetips> !nullclient_software[12:08:42] <knoba> phetips: "nullclient_software" : a program that serves as a drop in replacement for /usr/sbin/sendmail and provides a simple means to submit messages to an existing msa without the need to install and maintain a full-blown mta/msa. examples include esmtp, ssmtp and nullmailer. also see !msa[12:13:14] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[12:14:49] *** mutante has joined #postfix[12:15:06] *** phetips has quit IRC[12:15:48] <ServerCrash> what is equivalent to DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MTA1,Address=127.0.0.1,Port=smtp,Modifiers=fh')from sendmail in postfix[12:15:51] *** henriknj_ has quit IRC[12:16:06] <mutante> which of the processes started by postfix (master, pickup, qmgr, smtp, smtpd) can i expect to ALWAYS run under normal conditions? (i want to send monitoring alarms if something that should be running is not running, but some processes cant be expected to always run, like "trivial-rewrite" which i already removed )[12:17:53] <ServerCrash> anyone in here experinced with that ?[12:18:50] <ServerCrash> i guess this is called as transport map or something, not sure :([12:20:57] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[12:20:57] *** ServerCrash has joined #postfix[12:23:06] *** e-jones has quit IRC[12:27:03] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[12:35:53] *** sebuba has joined #postfix[12:57:42] *** mac2k has joined #postfix[13:00:57] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:05:19] *** sebuba has quit IRC[13:16:39] *** ihtraum has joined #postfix[13:45:24] *** p3rror has quit IRC[13:45:31] *** Matic`Makovec has quit IRC[13:53:21] *** [sergiu] has quit IRC[13:57:18] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[14:16:16] *** hever has quit IRC[14:20:39] *** ihtraum has quit IRC[14:24:18] *** mac2k has left #postfix[14:26:41] *** p3rror has quit IRC[14:29:18] *** sebuba has joined #postfix[14:29:29] *** m4madnimalik has joined #postfix[14:29:56] <m4madnimalik> hello[14:30:15] <m4madnimalik> hello everybody[14:30:46] <m4madnimalik> can anyone help me[14:30:50] <Aprogas> !tell m4madnimalik welcome[14:30:51] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[14:31:42] <m4madnimalik> i need mail server related help[14:31:49] <m4madnimalik> can u please help me???[14:31:55] <Aprogas> !tell m4madnimalik topic[14:31:55] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "topic" : The Postfix MTA || Wiki: postfixwiki.org || On using IRC: workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc || Bot info: workaround.org/f=postfix || post postconf -n and relevant logs to a pastebin when asking questions / check your logs / know your unix basics || http://code.google.com/p/mail-trends/ || Channel log: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?postfix || http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.postfix.announce/110[14:32:20] <m4madnimalik> wat is this???[14:32:28] <m4madnimalik> i m new to this[14:32:35] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: read what knoba gave you.[14:32:39] <Aprogas> !tell m4madnimalik why[14:32:39] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "why" : are you sure that installing, configuring and maintaining a mailserver is really what you want to do here? it's not something that's for the faint of heart, and definitely not something for folks that are still just learning the basics of linux or unix. also see !nullclient[14:33:04] <m4madnimalik> hmmm[14:33:08] <Aprogas> m4madnimalik: We cannot help you until we have the right information; and maybe running a mailserver isn't what you need.[14:33:10] <m4madnimalik> knoba i agree with u[14:33:16] <m4madnimalik> then where i have to go[14:33:27] <Aprogas> Why do you think you need a mailserver?[14:33:37] <m4madnimalik> for mailing setup[14:33:46] <Aprogas> Why do you need a mailing setup?[14:33:47] *** cilly has quit IRC[14:33:47] <m4madnimalik> to setup a corporate mail server[14:34:06] <m4madnimalik> so that i can manage mail server myself[14:34:13] *** Qwert has quit IRC[14:34:16] <Aprogas> !tell m4madnimalik googleapps[14:34:16] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "googleapps" : Google Apps - http://www.google.com/a/ - A free service provided by Google to have your email and other services hosted by them[14:34:18] <m4madnimalik> users creation, policeis[14:34:25] <m4madnimalik> and so on[14:34:29] <Aprogas> You might want to look into that, I never used it, but I heard it is pretty flexible.[14:34:39] <m4madnimalik> then[14:34:45] <m4madnimalik> please guide me[14:34:52] <Aprogas> You could also look for affordable email hosting for your company.[14:34:55] <m4madnimalik> in which room i have to join[14:35:14] <m4madnimalik> no no i want a mail setup on my company[14:35:15] <Aprogas> For help with Google Apps, you should first read their website.[14:35:35] <m4madnimalik> after googling i came here[14:35:36] <Aprogas> Do you just want your company to have working email, or do you insist you must do it all yourself?[14:35:48] <m4madnimalik> working email[14:36:15] <Aprogas> Google Apps lets you set up email hosted by Google, but it uses the domains of your company, so it looks as if hosted by your company.[14:36:26] <Aprogas> I think this sort of thing may be what you are looking for.[14:36:45] <m4madnimalik> how can i get help from postfix???[14:36:51] <Aprogas> Paid email hosting is also an option, find an email hoster that offers the flexibility that you need, is affordable, and has good service.[14:37:06] <m4madnimalik> paid is not feasible[14:37:18] <Aprogas> Google Apps is free for small-scale I think.[14:37:31] <m4madnimalik> i have 800 users[14:37:48] <m4madnimalik> then Google Apps will be feasible[14:38:06] <Aprogas> If you are inexperienced in running a mailserver, but set it up yourself, and eventually it breaks; you might lose more revenue in lost sales/customers, than you would by having your email run by professionals.[14:38:19] <Aprogas> If you want to test around and learn Postfix, do so in a test environment first.[14:38:23] <Aprogas> !tell m4madnimalik basic[14:38:23] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[14:38:37] <m4madnimalik> obviusly[14:38:42] <Aprogas> That is a good place to start learning Postfix basics; but again I stress I think outsourcing your email is more suitable for you.[14:38:48] <m4madnimalik> first i will try it in test enviornment[14:39:01] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: allow yourself at least a month to learn.[14:39:05] <m4madnimalik> then if i will be confidnet enough then will shift it in production[14:39:22] <m4madnimalik> i m intrested to learn[14:39:31] <m4madnimalik> but my concern is where to start???[14:39:35] <thumbs> !basic[14:39:35] <knoba> thumbs: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[14:39:41] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: there[14:39:48] <m4madnimalik> hmmm[14:40:04] <m4madnimalik> is there any tutorial type thing in ur knowledge???[14:40:12] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: don't use tutorials.[14:41:21] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[14:44:05] *** cilly has joined #postfix[14:44:08] *** mutante has left #postfix[14:46:27] *** e-jones has quit IRC[14:47:01] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[14:50:49] <m4madnimalik> ??[14:51:06] <m4madnimalik> thums y r u not recommending tuturial???[14:51:40] <Dominian> tutorials are fine as a guidelines[14:51:46] <Dominian> they aren't meant to be the end-all-be-all answer[14:51:54] <Dominian> trust me.. I wrote a tutorial and its not meant to give you all the answers[14:55:00] <Aprogas> Many Postfix tutorials are badly written, contain incorrect information, and will confuse you.[14:55:14] <Aprogas> Also many tutorials start way too complicated, so they don't make things simpler at all.[14:58:54] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: and it's spelled 'why', 'are' and 'you'.[15:01:07] <thumbs> !tell m4madnimalik tutorial[15:01:07] <knoba> m4madnimalik: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their server w/out reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to find hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[15:02:55] *** forsberg is now known as fOrsberg[15:04:24] *** TomHome has quit IRC[15:06:16] *** p3rror has quit IRC[15:08:39] <Dominian> Hell the tutorial I wrote is more for me than anyone else.. so I don't forget my setup :)[15:09:22] <thumbs> Dominian: maybe I'll read it and find the flaws in it[15:09:28] <Dominian> heh[15:09:30] <Dominian> its got a few[15:09:32] <Dominian> I need to redo it[15:09:38] <Dominian> I've changed things around quite a bit sinc eI wrote that[15:09:43] <m4madnimalik> domainian[15:09:54] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[15:09:54] <m4madnimalik> can i u help me in postfix[15:10:05] <Dominian> thumbs: but like I said, it was written mainly for me and so I didn't forget how I set everything up[15:10:13] <Dominian> If you mean hold your hand m4madnimalik .. no.[15:10:17] <Dominian> !basic[15:10:17] <knoba> Dominian: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[15:10:18] <Dominian> !standard[15:10:18] <knoba> Dominian: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[15:10:23] <Dominian> that's how I started ^^^^[15:10:33] <m4madnimalik> ok i got it[15:10:49] <m4madnimalik> how can i install it on new installed machine???[15:11:20] <m4madnimalik> domaiani[15:11:57] <m4madnimalik> domaian where can i find installation steps of Postfix??[15:12:11] <m4madnimalik> let supposr if i stuck in any step then[15:12:18] <m4madnimalik> where can i find help???[15:12:55] <thumbs> m4madnimalik: ask smarter questions first[15:14:09] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:27:52] *** ghoti has quit IRC[15:28:25] *** ghoti has joined #postfix[15:31:19] *** m4madnimalik has quit IRC[15:33:18] *** necro has quit IRC[15:33:34] *** mizerydearia has joined #postfix[15:33:37] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[15:35:58] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[15:36:14] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[16:00:35] *** fOrsberg is now known as forsberg[16:06:24] *** mroe has joined #postfix[16:06:50] *** mroe is now known as Guest83537[16:08:42] *** JonnyV has joined #postfix[16:08:43] *** smica has joined #postfix[16:12:05] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[16:12:29] *** henriknj has quit IRC[16:13:12] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[16:14:14] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[16:17:02] *** johest|w has quit IRC[16:19:25] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[16:20:14] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[16:22:09] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[16:24:58] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:26:31] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[16:26:38] *** Meskalyn_ has joined #postfix[16:26:38] *** Meskalyn_ is now known as Meskalyn[16:33:09] *** balek has joined #postfix[16:33:27] *** bluethundr_ has joined #postfix[16:36:19] <balek> hi i have a question please i have a postfix and when i receive a mail i want to check the body and if i found the sentence i delete this sentense is it possible please ? thanks for your help[16:37:12] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[16:38:14] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[16:39:03] <UQlev> balek, probably you might be able to delete a sentense from pure text message. But what to do with encoded body, with attachments?[16:39:09] *** bfrog has joined #postfix[16:39:18] <bfrog> is there a reason this might happen? fatal: 0.0.0.0:smtp: Servname not supported for ai_socktype[16:40:48] <Dominian> misconfiguration[16:40:53] <bfrog> in what way?[16:41:04] <Dominian> what changes have you made to your configuration?[16:41:10] <bfrog> hostname[16:41:14] <Dominian> can you show us master.cf and postconf -n on a pastebin?[16:41:17] <bfrog> yes[16:41:20] <balek> UncleD : Why the body is encoded ? i have mail with attachments yes but i don't know if it's encoded or no[16:41:47] <Dominian> balek: modifying the message like that... I don't agree with.[16:41:58] <UQlev> balek, e.g. MIME encoded[16:42:51] <bfrog> http://pastebin.com/PD83m8hP master.cf[16:42:57] <balek> my problem is when i receive the mail on my postfix i have a signature i want to delete this i don't know if it's possible[16:43:20] <Dominian> Where's the signature coming from?[16:43:23] <Dominian> More than like your email client.[16:43:33] <Dominian> Turn it off in your mail client[16:43:45] *** JonnyV has quit IRC[16:43:51] <Dominian> bfrog: master.cf looks clean[16:43:53] <balek> no it's not on the mail client it's on an other server mail i can't modify this[16:44:00] <bfrog> postconf -n http://pastebin.com/ynZmidSe[16:44:01] <bfrog> exactly[16:44:10] <bfrog> I think the configuration is fine[16:44:19] <bfrog> I think its failing to find what port to use from /etc/services[16:44:27] <Dominian> bfrog: can you show me the lines before and after that error[16:44:55] <bfrog> Sep 24 09:44:51 dev postfix/postfix-script[3839]: starting the Postfix mail system[16:44:58] <bfrog> Sep 24 09:44:51 dev postfix/master[3840]: fatal: 0.0.0.0:smtp: Servname not supported for ai_socktype[16:45:02] <bfrog> there's no error aftr[16:45:07] <bfrog> it fails to start after that[16:45:17] <Dominian> er[16:45:21] <Dominian> grep smtp /etc/services[16:45:26] <bfrog> its there[16:45:30] <bfrog> lemme paste the line[16:45:45] <bfrog> smtp 25/tcp # Simple Mail Transfer[16:45:46] <bfrog> smtp 25/udp # Simple Mail Transfer[16:46:08] <bfrog> if I change master.cf to explicitly use port 25 things are peachy[16:46:12] <bfrog> but thats stupid[16:46:16] <UQlev> balek, you may use sed to erase trailing singnature if it is always the same type[16:46:32] <Dominian> bfrog: wait.. what?[16:47:27] <bfrog> thats what I get when grepping /etc/services[16:47:29] <bfrog> is that wrong?[16:47:49] <Dominian> smtp 25/tcp mail #Simple Mail Transfer[16:47:50] <Dominian> smtp 25/udp mail #Simple Mail Transfer[16:47:52] <Dominian> try that[16:47:56] <Dominian> those are entries off my working postfix box[16:48:01] <f3ew> What are the permissions on your files?[16:48:11] <f3ew> exec grep ^smtp /etc/services[16:48:19] <f3ew> smtp 25/tcp mail[16:48:19] <f3ew> smtp 25/udp mail[16:48:19] <f3ew> smtps 465/tcp # SMTP over SSL (TLS)[16:48:27] <Dominian> f3ew: read up.. he pasted the lines[16:48:29] <Dominian> :P[16:48:36] <Dominian> Sep 24 14:53 < bfrog> smtp 25/tcp # Simple Mail Transfer[16:48:37] <Dominian> Sep 24 14:53 < bfrog> smtp 25/udp # Simple Mail Transfer[16:48:51] <f3ew> Dominian I have no idea if he ran the grep as root[16:49:03] <Dominian> uh ok[16:49:06] <f3ew> The 0.0.0.0:smtp makes me think of a hostname issue though[16:49:34] <Aprogas> chroot?[16:49:38] <bfrog> its not though, as I said, explicitly changing smtp to port 25 in master.cf gets postfix to work[16:49:38] <Dominian> Aprogas: nope[16:49:47] <f3ew> Not a chroot issue[16:49:58] <Dominian> bfrog: Did you make the change above with my /etc/services lines?[16:50:06] <bfrog> I did[16:50:07] <Dominian> ls -al /etc/services[16:50:08] <bfrog> same results[16:50:18] <bfrog> tburdick@dev /etc/postfix$ ls -al /etc/services[16:50:27] <Dominian> interesting[16:50:36] <Dominian> bfrog: changing it to port 25 is the same as using 'smtp'...[16:50:41] <bfrog> tburdick@dev /etc/postfix$ grep smtp /etc/services[16:50:41] <bfrog> smtp 25/tcp mail # Simple Mail Transfer[16:50:41] <bfrog> smtp 25/udp mail # Simple Mail Transfer[16:50:44] <Dominian> it pulls 'smtp' from /etc/services and ties it to port 25[16:50:53] <Dominian> but yes, it is annoying[16:51:02] <bfrog> right, thats why I think its failing to grab it from /etc/services[16:51:15] <Dominian> Aprogas: http://pastebin.com/PD83m8hP[16:51:18] <Dominian> Aprogas: that's the master.cf[16:51:30] <Dominian> Aprogas: postconf -n http://pastebin.com/ynZmidSe[16:51:36] <Dominian> maybe I'm missing something[16:51:58] <f3ew> So the file exists and is readable[16:52:05] <bfrog> how does postfix actually get things from /etc/services[16:52:07] <bfrog> is that a library?[16:52:15] <bfrog> or does it just directly parse the file?[16:52:40] <bfrog> because I tried exim, and it had the same exact issue[16:52:48] <f3ew> Oooh, what's in your /etc/nsswitch.conf file?[16:52:51] <Dominian> haha[16:52:53] <bfrog> :-)[16:52:55] <Aprogas> getservent/getservbyname that sort of thing[16:52:56] <Dominian> f3ew: damn you.. I was just typing that :0[16:52:59] <bfrog> ah hah[16:53:04] * f3ew likes the Google suggestion![16:53:11] <Dominian> f3ew: lol[16:53:22] <bfrog> I'm using ldap on this machine for things[16:53:24] <Dominian> bfrog: should have something like: services: files iirc[16:53:29] * f3ew hasn't dealt with those files for so long I almost forgot about them[16:53:29] <bfrog> so the entires go ldap files[16:53:32] <f3ew> aha[16:53:38] <bfrog> which one should be only files for this?[16:53:44] <Dominian> services[16:53:46] <bfrog> I see them[16:53:47] <bfrog> yes[16:53:48] <bfrog> yes yes[16:53:49] <balek> UncleD : you think i can modify the file mail but postfix send automatiquely the mail i have not time to modify this file . If i create a script and add on master.cf is it a good solution for you ?[16:53:51] <bfrog> thank you![16:53:53] <bfrog> thank you so so much[16:53:53] <Dominian> bfrog: lol[16:53:55] <Dominian> working now?[16:54:00] *** tharkun has joined #postfix[16:54:09] <Dominian> I'm assuming its working heh[16:54:49] <bfrog> it looks like it is[16:54:53] <bfrog> yes[16:54:54] <bfrog> its working[16:54:59] <Dominian> woot[16:55:03] <bfrog> thank you so much, I hadn't thought to look in nsswitch[16:55:08] <bfrog> I'll remember that one[16:55:10] <Dominian> nor did WE![16:55:13] <Dominian> until f3ew google'd[16:55:14] <Dominian> lmao[16:55:22] <Dominian> god.. nsswitch.conf..[16:55:25] <Dominian> totally forgot about that file[16:56:58] <f3ew> There *is* a reason I recommend Googling :P[16:57:07] <Dominian> ;)[17:00:04] <UQlev> balek, I didn't ask for solution. Any solution that fits your needs is good[17:02:25] <bfrog> I tried googling, I guess I missed out on the fix for this[17:02:37] <bfrog> or just googled for the wrong thing[17:06:20] <Toerkeium> Guys, I'm getting this error "postfix/smtpd[22163]: warning: unknown[x.x.x.x]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed" but only when I try to send email, the same user can login with pop or imap. I already checked the smtpd.conf file for sasl2[17:06:32] <Toerkeium> any idea where else to look?[17:07:43] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[17:08:28] *** e-jones has quit IRC[17:13:11] *** jeremymcs has quit IRC[17:13:19] *** Guest83537 has quit IRC[17:13:46] <UQlev> Toerkeium, what is your pop/imap server?[17:16:40] <Toerkeium> UQlev: it's Cyrus[17:17:07] <Toerkeium> UQlev: postfix and cyrus works with mysql[17:17:50] <UQlev> Toerkeium, can you pastebin your main.conf?[17:17:54] <Toerkeium> sure[17:18:12] <UQlev> Toerkeium, better postconf -n[17:18:18] <Toerkeium> yes of course :)[17:18:43] *** n0ctum has joined #postfix[17:19:42] <Toerkeium> do you know other pastebin than .ca?[17:20:00] <UQlev> Toerkeium, www.dpaste.org[17:20:29] <UQlev> Toerkeium, http://paste.pocoo.org/[17:21:26] <Toerkeium> UQlev: http://www.dpaste.org/CCnr/[17:21:38] <Toerkeium> Snippet #31731[17:23:19] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[17:23:53] <UQlev> Toerkeium, postconf -d | grep smtpd_sasl[17:24:08] *** balek has quit IRC[17:25:11] <Toerkeium> UQlev: http://www.dpaste.org/mJbw/[17:25:28] *** UNIX107 has joined #postfix[17:27:03] <UQlev> Toerkeium, odd, I can't see smtpd_sasl_type & smtpd_sasl_path[17:27:54] <UNIX107> Hi ALL WORLD , some one know an tools to analys /var/log/maillog in real time .?[17:27:55] <UNIX107> :)[17:27:57] <UNIX107> thanks[17:27:58] <UQlev> Toerkeium, postconf -a[17:28:02] <Toerkeium> let me check UQlev[17:28:09] <Aprogas> UNIX107: tail -f , less and press F[17:28:40] <UNIX107> Aprogas No i means an tools extract information in tables or web pages[17:28:44] <UNIX107> clear information[17:28:45] *** ServerCrash has joined #postfix[17:28:56] <UNIX107> with tail -f we cant view all information[17:28:57] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[17:28:57] *** ServerCrash has joined #postfix[17:29:00] <UNIX107> it passed fastly[17:29:01] <UNIX107> :D[17:29:07] <Toerkeium> UQlev: there is no switch -a in my postconf[17:29:12] <Toerkeium> UQlev: probably it's old[17:29:14] <Aprogas> pflogsumm analyses the logfiles, but isn't real-time[17:29:40] <Aprogas> !addon[17:29:41] <knoba> Aprogas: Error: "addon" is not a valid command.[17:29:43] <Aprogas> !addons[17:29:43] <knoba> Aprogas: Error: "addons" is not a valid command.[17:29:56] <Aprogas> http://www.postfix.org/addon.html[17:29:59] <Aprogas> might be something in there[17:30:38] <UQlev> Toerkeium, what versionof your postfix?[17:31:14] <rob0> Toerkeium: what MUA are you using to send this mail?[17:32:15] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[17:32:28] <Toerkeium> UQlev: it's 2.1.5[17:33:11] <Toerkeium> rob0: hey, it's the damn outlook express :)[17:33:53] <rob0> Yes, smtpd_sasl_type and postconf -a|-A were introduced in 2.3.[17:34:15] <rob0> Do the same credentials work in Thunderbird?[17:35:20] <Toerkeium> rob0: didn't test it really. Just tried it in another machine with another OE version, never used thunderbird before[17:36:33] <tharkun> !outlook[17:36:33] <knoba> tharkun: "outlook" : MS Outlook has numerous problems with TLS and AUTH support. Try using a better client to troubleshoot your Postfix server's AUTH features; then once you know it works, you can go back and break it such that Outlook will work. See the following MS KB article to enable transport logging in Outlook that may be of some help in troubleshooting, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300479/en-us[17:37:40] <rob0> You already seem to have the two Outhouse "fixes", LOGIN mechanism and broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes[17:37:56] <Toerkeium> tharkun: I use the same MUA to connect to orher MTA, same release, same "practicaly" install sucess[17:38:27] <tharkun> Toerkeium: chech the root CA of both servers your problem might be there[17:38:46] <rob0> no, I doubt SSL is involved, as 2.1 did not support SSL[17:38:58] <Toerkeium> there is not ssl at all[17:39:07] <Aprogas> I think still using 2.1 is the problem that trumps all other problems.[17:39:18] <tharkun> Ohh sorry i missread the version[17:39:35] <UQlev> old outlooks work fine with -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes on smtpds, and new one with -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt on submission[17:39:36] <tharkun> tharkun: seconds the motion to upgrade[17:40:30] * tharkun needs some aspirins[17:41:54] <Toerkeium> yes yes, I'll, eventually[17:41:59] <UQlev> Toerkeium, what does prevent you 6 years from upgrade?[17:42:28] <Toerkeium> UQlev: been poor and having to work more than expected? heh[17:42:42] <Toerkeium> UQlev: no, really.. 6 years of excellent postfix behavior[17:43:00] <tharkun> Toerkeium: A rainy weekend and a nice pot of coffee should fix the isue[17:44:05] <UQlev> tharkun, unless he is paid for it what is the reason?[17:44:19] <tharkun> Toerkeium: same "practicaly" install <-- Do you know the differences between each install[17:44:48] *** robotarmy has joined #postfix[17:45:02] <Toerkeium> tharkun: Those are the same install, I mean.. they are hosted on a VPS, I think I screwed it up, but I can't find the reason why[17:45:12] <Toerkeium> (and that VPS copied)[17:45:17] <rob0> don't overlook testsaslauth[17:45:48] <rob0> are both SASL backends using the same database?[17:46:22] <Toerkeium> rob0: by backend you mean pop/imap and smtpd ?[17:46:56] <Toerkeium> if so, yes.. imap and pop use the same db[17:47:46] <Toerkeium> even, postfix is delivering messages, I mean, to local/virtual recipients, so it's connection to mysql fine too[17:47:48] *** Thaxll has joined #postfix[17:48:08] <Toerkeium> connecting*[17:48:35] <rob0> smtpd(8) passes credentials to the SASL library. That's controlled by /some/where/smtpd.conf, which should be using the same auth backend that the IMAP does.[17:48:38] <Toerkeium> I dont have the testsaslauth tool[17:49:12] <rob0> testsaslauthd*[17:49:45] <Toerkeium> yes rob0 I got that file in "/usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf"[17:50:06] <rob0> that might not be the right path.[17:50:49] <rob0> my guess would be /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf[17:51:04] <Toerkeium> let me see[17:51:28] <rob0> (if it's a Fedora package, otherwise /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf is probably right if built from source.)[17:52:10] <Toerkeium> checked other VPS and there seems to be some symlinks[17:52:19] <Toerkeium> let me reproduce them and test it[17:52:22] <Toerkeium> maybe....[17:55:35] <Toerkeium> reproduced the symlinks but no[17:55:37] <rob0> probably. If that fails, get and pastebin output of saslfinger[17:55:41] <rob0> !saslfinger[17:55:41] <knoba> rob0: "saslfinger" : SASL authentication debugging tool for Postfix: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/[17:58:03] <Toerkeium> doing it[17:58:55] <Toerkeium> nice tool[18:01:21] <Toerkeium> done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/499802/[18:06:45] <rob0> /usr/sbin/testsaslauthd: usage: /usr/sbin/testsaslauthd -u username -p password [-r realm] [-s servicename] [-f socket path] [-R repeatnum][18:07:02] <rob0> I think you'd need "-s smtpd"[18:07:40] <Toerkeium> let me check[18:09:40] <Toerkeium> 0: NO "authentication failed"[18:12:15] <rob0> That "sql_verbose: yes[18:12:54] <rob0> " setting, is it causing verbose logging at the mysql end? (I thought you were pgsql ...)[18:13:07] <Toerkeium> let me check, didnt check it[18:14:08] <rob0> ah, no, I see mysql in the postconf, got confused[18:14:20] *** hever has joined #postfix[18:14:43] <adaptr> postconf rob0_confusion_level : MAX[18:14:58] <Toerkeium> heh no it isnt[18:17:35] *** friskd has joined #postfix[18:19:36] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[18:20:45] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[18:24:15] *** henriknj has quit IRC[18:24:48] *** tPl0ch has quit IRC[18:26:18] <Toerkeium> can you believe it? I just *not sure why* retyped the password in the smtpd.conf file, and ... it's working?[18:26:24] <Toerkeium> the exact same password[18:26:28] <Toerkeium> just playing[18:27:29] <Thaxll> Hi there, is that possible for transport_map to use the from: addr instead of the to: ?[18:27:38] <Toerkeium> thanks everyone for the help[18:27:43] <Toerkeium> and patience[18:29:23] <rob0> Thaxll, no, but:[18:29:36] <rob0> !sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[18:29:36] <knoba> rob0: "sender_dependent_relayhost_maps" : a configuration directive in main.cf for sender based message routing. See http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[18:31:26] *** Section1_ has joined #postfix[18:32:10] *** Section1 has quit IRC[18:32:10] <Thaxll> ho thanks![18:34:27] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[18:36:31] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[18:37:13] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[18:44:16] *** UQlev has quit IRC[18:52:18] *** hever has quit IRC[19:06:05] *** kurt_ has quit IRC[19:06:49] *** henriknj has quit IRC[19:14:56] *** Tom^B has joined #postfix[19:14:57] *** Tom-B has quit IRC[19:22:11] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[19:22:50] *** ib-mobile_ has quit IRC[19:22:58] *** ib-mobile_ has joined #postfix[19:25:12] <jelly> too bad that map is eval'ed before almost everything else[19:26:10] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[19:28:41] *** ServerCrash has quit IRC[19:32:36] *** warriorforGod has joined #postfix[19:33:06] <warriorforGod> Can anybody tell me how to fix this error? Sender address rejected: Domain not found;[19:34:03] <warriorforGod> Specifically I want to be able to receive mail that is being blocked with this message.[19:35:41] <Aprogas> Is the domain one under your control?[19:35:55] <warriorforGod> Aprogas: Yes.[19:36:18] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[19:36:23] <Aprogas> Then give it an A or MX record (if A, make sure a mailserver runs on that).[19:37:07] <Aprogas> If you use a domain as part of an emailaddress, that domain should have a mailserver responsible for it.[19:37:14] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[19:37:21] <Aprogas> However, Postfix does not reject such mail by default, you specifically put in a restriction to make it do that.[19:37:26] <Aprogas> !tell warriorforGod access[19:37:27] <knoba> warriorforGod: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[19:44:59] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[19:53:41] *** uqlev has quit IRC[19:57:28] *** UNIX107 has quit IRC[20:00:31] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[20:01:44] *** Meskalyn has joined #postfix[20:06:03] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[20:19:25] *** Section1_ has quit IRC[20:19:52] *** Section1_ has joined #postfix[20:26:44] *** Meskalyn_ has joined #postfix[20:27:00] *** Meskalyn has quit IRC[20:27:00] *** Meskalyn_ is now known as Meskalyn[20:42:00] *** failover has joined #postfix[20:43:59] <failover> Hey, my postfix send messages to procmail, procmail can delivery messages to /var/mail/sysadmin/new but can't delivery to /var/mail/sysadmin/.Junk/ show this error on log: procmail: Unable to treat as directory "/var/mail/sysadmin/.Junk"[20:44:10] <failover> Anyone know why this happens[20:44:10] *** Tom^B has quit IRC[20:44:28] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[20:44:28] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[20:48:19] <Aprogas> Maybe .Junk is not a directory, or maybe your procmail recipe is incorrect.[20:50:33] <Thaxll> .* is a hidden file in Linux systems[20:51:09] <Aprogas> That only applies to listing, not accessing the file.[20:51:14] <failover> http://pastebin.com/bFqJQWT5 is my /etc/procmailrc[20:51:48] <Aprogas> You seem to specify it as a mbox instead of a Maildir.[20:51:56] <Aprogas> Also this isn't really Postfix related.[20:52:10] <failover> yeah, it's not...[20:52:18] <adaptr> failover: what does ls -la /var/mail/sysadmin say[20:53:04] <failover> drwx------ 5 sysadmin root 512 2010-09-24 12:34 .Junk[20:53:13] <Thaxll> lol[20:53:27] <Thaxll> It's a right problems imo[20:53:40] <Thaxll> i don't think the binary is running under sysadmin[20:53:43] <Aprogas> No, it's a "tell procmail to access a directory as a file" problem.[20:54:05] <failover> there is another two mail servers using these mailboxes with the same procmailrc file, but they are openbsd boxes, and are working fine...[20:54:29] <Aprogas> In procmailrc, path to a Maildir has a trailing slash.[20:54:29] <adaptr> failover: remote mounted ?[20:54:32] <Thaxll> anyway I don't see how it could access the file with thoses rights[20:54:33] <failover> nfs[20:54:56] <failover> well it access, it can delivery to "new" folder[20:54:58] <adaptr> Thaxll: the mailbox_command executes as the mailbox owner, so that's not a problem[20:55:00] <Aprogas> Thaxll: procmail might run as user sysadmin for mail delivered to user sysadmin by local(8)[20:55:09] <failover> drwx------ 2 sysadmin root 512 2010-09-24 12:41 new[20:55:15] <adaptr> Aprogas: *does*, not might. this is not configurable.[20:55:32] <Aprogas> adaptr: I usually don't deal in absolutes.[20:55:38] <adaptr> I love absolutes![20:55:44] <Aprogas> failover: You seem to be ignoring my comments about Maildir and trailing slash.[20:56:43] <adaptr> Aprogas: not the issue, but he would do well to log what procmail executes[20:56:51] <adaptr> failover: log what procmail does[20:56:51] <failover> you mean, missing a / at and ?[20:56:57] <failover> one minute[20:57:28] <Aprogas> adaptr: I'm not that familiar with procmail, I assumed it just had vague error reporting, and was complaining about having to deliver mbox-style to a directory.[20:57:32] <adaptr> and yes, you're missing a mandatory slash at the end of that maildir[20:57:58] <adaptr> Aprogas: correct, but it seems to work on first glance - until yuo remember that any subdir of a maildir must also be a maildir[20:59:03] <failover> http://pastebin.com/gP6JnRh2[20:59:41] <failover> i added the / at end... that was the log[20:59:48] <Aprogas> failover: Please also share your postconf -n on how procmail is invoked[21:00:36] <adaptr> failover: LOG THAT[21:00:43] <failover> invoked: mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail[21:03:14] <warriorforGod> Is there a way to whitelist a non existent domain other than take out reject_unknown_sender_domain?[21:04:21] <Aprogas> warriorforGod: Yes, read the access readme I linked you to.[21:04:21] <adaptr> warriorforGod: yes, whitelisting anything whatsoever is trivial[21:04:26] <Aprogas> warriorforGod: Also just fix your domain.[21:04:45] <Aprogas> warriorforGod: If you use @domain.com in an emailaddress, domain.com should have an MX.[21:06:44] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:11:36] <warriorforGod> Aprogas: So I have read the link but am still not understanding how to whitelist it. It is unfeasable for me to set up an MX record for the address.[21:14:14] <warriorforGod> ls[21:15:34] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[21:16:01] <Aprogas> warriorforGod: Why are you sending email from that domain then? You can whitelist in multiple ways, e.g. a PCRE check_sender_access that results "DUNNO" for your whitelisted domains, and reject_unknown_sender_domain for all others. Or you could use restriction classes.[21:20:03] <adaptr> warriorforGod: sane advice #1: when you send mail, use real addresses[21:20:15] <adaptr> give us a very, very good reason why you should not heed it[21:22:05] <Tom-B> Big man thumbs.[21:23:02] *** p3rror has quit IRC[21:23:07] <thumbs> Tom-B: you should refrain from bringing your dirty laundry in other channels. A /pm is suitable.[21:24:07] <psilo2> Ohhh.. I'm sitting here trying to figure out why having big man thumbs is an excuse for using fake domains[21:24:07] <Tom-B> You refrain from your linux geek cliche "I'm better than you because I know more about a given subject" antics. Humanity is more suitable.[21:24:14] <Tom-B> XD psilo2[21:24:47] <Tom-B> If you came in to a channel about a subject I knew more than you about and asked a question, I wouldn't for a second treat you like that[21:24:48] <adaptr> I think Tom-B is aiming for a global ban[21:24:52] <Tom-B> And you demand my request?[21:24:57] <Tom-B> respect[21:25:06] <Tom-B> Yep, a global ban of a dynamic IP, zomg?[21:25:38] <thumbs> Tom-B: this discussion is not suitable for this channel. Take it elsewhere.[21:25:59] <Tom-B> You've bored me mr cliche[21:32:35] *** uqlev has quit IRC[21:32:45] *** warriorforGod has left #postfix[21:37:46] <seekwill> thumbs starting fights again?[21:38:00] <adaptr> seekwill: looking for a fight ? huh ? HU H?[21:38:08] * seekwill steps up[21:38:13] <seekwill> u wanna do it???[21:39:09] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[21:39:52] *** ssureshot has quit IRC[21:40:00] *** GoGi has quit IRC[21:40:19] *** grobe0ba|away is now known as grobe0ba[21:40:36] *** failover has quit IRC[21:41:06] * tharkun goes for his 30 ft pole to poke at adaptr[21:41:08] *** uqlev_ has joined #postfix[21:41:20] <adaptr> oh, I'm sorry, I lost interest[21:41:30] *** uqlev_ has quit IRC[21:42:20] <tharkun> Damn[21:44:56] *** uqlev has quit IRC[21:46:44] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[21:48:10] *** Qwert has quit IRC[21:48:36] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:48:45] *** Qwert has quit IRC[21:49:07] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:49:17] *** Qwert has quit IRC[21:49:33] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:51:31] *** Qwert has quit IRC[21:51:53] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:54:05] *** Qwert has quit IRC[21:54:26] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[21:57:29] *** Tom-B has quit IRC[22:01:03] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[22:01:03] *** Tom-B has joined #postfix[22:04:20] *** Qwert has quit IRC[22:04:42] *** Qwert has joined #postfix[22:05:46] *** e-jones has quit IRC[22:10:15] *** Qwert has quit IRC[22:17:26] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[22:22:07] *** n0ctum has quit IRC[22:27:04] <Tom-B> Thumbs can you remove the +q from #mysql please[22:27:48] <Aprogas> Maybe you should say the magic s-word and p-word.[22:28:03] <tharkun> shut up ??[22:28:12] <Aprogas> no, sorry and please[22:28:52] <thumbs> removed.[22:29:00] <Tom-B> And httpd?[22:29:09] <thumbs> sec.[22:30:00] <Tom-B> The fact you set it there too speaks volumes tbh[22:30:10] <Tom-B> Set them both back on I'll just alias if it makes you feel happy.[22:30:39] <thumbs> Tom-B: I asked you to keep the dirty laundry outside of this channel.[22:31:08] <tharkun> On this corner with the blue boxer ....[22:31:11] <Tom-B> thumbs you're an egomanic geek cunt, go fuck yourself[22:31:26] <tharkun> Tom-B: Please[22:31:37] <Aprogas> No more Postfix help for Tom-B.[22:31:43] <seekwill> Uh... This is #postfix or #mysql?[22:31:53] <Aprogas> seekwill: true[22:32:04] <jelly-hme> Aprogas: evil.[22:32:05] <Tom-B> He talked like shit to me in #mysql when I asked a simple question, then he +q's me in #mysql and for no reason what so ever in #httpd, a channel I haven't spoken in all day[22:32:08] <seekwill> KB1JWQ: Help[22:32:09] <Tom-B> Pure egomania[22:32:29] <Aprogas> This is #Postfix, not #DirtyLaundry.[22:32:41] <Aprogas> If you have an issue with how you have been treated on a channel, take it up with the Freenode staff, not with us.[22:35:03] <tharkun> Gentlemen I have a problem i setted up a postfix install with a self signed certificate. Without me realizing the test server became the production server. How can i change the certificate from the selfsigned to a CA signed certificate causing the least trouble to the users ?[22:35:55] <Tom-B> Just upload the files and point postfix in the right direction? (I'm not even sure that was a true question;)[22:36:42] <Tom-B> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.cert[22:36:42] <Tom-B> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.key[22:36:46] <Tom-B> or whatever you put em[22:36:56] <Tom-B> I never needed the ca bundle thing, infact it broke my shizzle[22:38:03] <tharkun> Actually the postfix end of the situation does not worry me at all. It is the mua of the outside users that worries me most. I wouldn't want them to be cut off[22:39:05] <Tom-B> If your CA cert is provided by a recognised company and supported by 99% of MUA's why worry?[22:39:30] <Tom-B> Just backup and go balls out the world will still be here afterwards <3[22:45:59] <adaptr> still providing priceless help I see[22:47:17] *** Thaxll has quit IRC[22:50:34] *** Dingofest2 has quit IRC[22:50:36] <Tom-B> still up your own arse I see[22:51:24] *** tharkun has left #postfix[23:29:14] *** f3ew has quit IRC[23:30:09] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[23:31:39] <thumbs> ebergen: I suppose twopak and Tom-B are consins.[23:31:45] <thumbs> cousins, rather[23:32:56] <seekwill> ebergen doesn't use #postfix[23:33:05] <seekwill> thumbs fail[23:33:05] <thumbs> seekwill: I just realized. Sorry.[23:33:14] <seekwill> STOP BRINGING #MYSQL STUFF HERE[23:35:20] <jeev> stop the #mysql stuff[23:35:23] <jeev> :>[23:35:47] <riversky> take mysql and store all your bullshit[23:35:49] <thumbs> it was an ECHAN. Sorry.[23:36:08] *** higuita has quit IRC[23:40:24] *** uqlev has quit IRC[23:41:48] *** JoKoT3 has quit IRC[23:42:47] *** henriknj has quit IRC[23:43:52] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[23:49:31] *** cilly has quit IRC[23:53:59] <Tom-B> Someone else tire of your condescending nature thumbs?[23:54:11] *** Section1_ has quit IRC[23:58:33] *** rhenz has quit IRC