September 16, 2010 
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September 16, 2010 [00:00:10] <Aprogas> acidjazz: Which server is throwing that error you are getting? What information is in your logs?[00:00:21] <acidjazz> the box is just a small ec2 instance w/ a domain pointed to it and i need to accept email to that domain and forward it to work email[00:00:36] <acidjazz> that message comes from authsmtp when they suspended my account i asked why and they sent that[00:00:50] <Aprogas> Why are you using SASL at all?[00:01:09] <acidjazz> full email http://pastebin.com/wmDXUj0b[00:01:12] <Aprogas> What is authsmtp? Who disabled your account?[00:01:27] <seekwill> I did.[00:01:37] <acidjazz> authsmtp is a global outgoing smtp service[00:01:58] <acidjazz> im using them as my smtp server[00:02:20] <Aprogas> It seemed to me you just wanted to forward one domain to a work emailaddress. Did I understand that correctly?[00:02:55] <acidjazz> well the box is a hosting web server as well[00:03:20] <Aprogas> Ok, but on the email-level I'm still trying to understand why you use SASL on either end.[00:03:21] <acidjazz> so the box needs to actually route the mail[00:03:26] <Aprogas> Did you mistake SASL for SSL ?[00:03:33] <acidjazz> i think that was the setup to use w/ authsmtps tutorial[00:04:13] <Aprogas> Postfix is an MTA, it can handle receiving email and forwarding it to your work email; unless your work's mailserver refuses to talk to your server, I'm not sure why you need authsmtp in between.[00:04:28] <Aprogas> So please elaborate on that part of your setup.[00:04:42] <acidjazz> yes thats another issue and reason i used authsmtp[00:04:52] <acidjazz> my work email would not accept it iirc[00:05:02] <Aprogas> Does your work's mailserver give a meaningful error?[00:05:56] <FFForever> how can I see why no mail is leaving my server?[00:06:03] <acidjazz> the issue i have is w/ authsmtp is that i am logging excessive errors[00:06:10] <Aprogas> !tell FFForever logs[00:06:10] <knoba> FFForever: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung[00:06:34] <Aprogas> acidjazz: My first solution would be to eliminate authsmtp altogether from your setup, since I don't understand why you need them.[00:06:46] <Aprogas> acidjazz: But if you insist on keep using authsmtp, it seems they limit which From addresses you can get.[00:06:55] <acidjazz> i dont have that time/knowledge/expertise[00:07:05] <Aprogas> !tell acidjazz why[00:07:05] <knoba> acidjazz: "why" : are you sure that installing, configuring and maintaining a mailserver is really what you want to do here? it's not something that's for the faint of heart, and definitely not something for folks that are still just learning the basics of linux or unix. also see !nullclient[00:07:06] <acidjazz> hmm[00:07:23] <Aprogas> s/get/set/ by the way, in my last line.[00:08:23] <Aprogas> Perhaps authsmtp lets you add an entire domain as valid from.[00:08:52] <acidjazz> no just email addresses[00:08:55] <acidjazz> and htey each ahve to be ferified[00:08:56] <acidjazz> verified*[00:09:08] <acidjazz> how do i turn off sending out MAILER-DAEMON e-mails basically?[00:09:24] <Aprogas> By fixing the error that is causing them to get sent in the first place. Consult your logs.[00:10:18] <FFForever> !no_logs[00:10:18] <knoba> FFForever: "no_logs" : Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[00:10:27] <Aprogas> acidjazz: Which domain do you forward to your work? I don't see any virtual aliases.[00:10:59] <acidjazz> ryan at palmconnections dot com get forwarded[00:11:27] <acidjazz> my logs are flooded w/ account suspended[00:11:39] <Aprogas> Can you pastebin a piece of that?[00:11:41] <robotarmy> acidjazz: #ansi ?[00:12:20] <acidjazz> is there an option to turn off mailer daemon messages?[00:12:25] <acidjazz> sure[00:12:43] <acidjazz> http://pastebin.com/CPFeQ8Z7[00:13:58] <Aprogas> Why is kevin sending so much mail?[00:14:25] <seekwill> He's looking for a date[00:14:32] <lunaphyte> well, if it's kevin arnold, it's probably because he's in love with winnie.[00:14:46] <seekwill> Winnie the Pooh?[00:14:56] * seekwill is not getting any work done today... :/[00:15:16] <acidjazz> i think it keeps on trying[00:15:18] <acidjazz> and gets bounced[00:15:19] <acidjazz> or something[00:15:24] <acidjazz> going through authsmtp[00:15:26] *** Section1 has quit IRC[00:15:29] <acidjazz> cuz im suspended[00:15:31] <Aprogas> Those logs look as if you are firewalled on authsmtp.com; it also looks as if you have some runaway process.[00:15:38] <acidjazz> i am suspended[00:15:52] <acidjazz> whole reason im here they suspended me for http://pastebin.com/tv4XYj3G[00:15:53] <Aprogas> Pastebin output of qshape please[00:16:01] <acidjazz> how do i get that[00:16:10] <Aprogas> You type qshape on a shell.[00:16:13] <Aprogas> It's a command.[00:16:19] *** smica has quit IRC[00:16:25] <Aprogas> Doesn't even require root I think.[00:16:26] <acidjazz> T 5 10 20 40 80 160 320 640 1280 1280+ TOTAL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0[00:19:38] <Aprogas> Maybe I wasn't looking for qshape.[00:19:58] <acidjazz> It's not something you need to do in Postfix - A program / script is passing messages to Postfix to send from that address, if you look in your mail queue (typically /var/spool/mail) you should be able to find the messages and view the content to ascertain what is generating them.[00:20:01] <acidjazz> thats their response[00:21:04] <acidjazz> its mail from/to www-data[00:21:21] <acidjazz> aha[00:21:26] <acidjazz> mail() in php[00:21:49] <Aprogas> Do you have a hijacked PHP-script that spammers are abusing?[00:21:59] <acidjazz> no i wrote this[00:22:01] <Aprogas> To channel: which command shows all queues and how many messages are in each?[00:25:58] <thumbs> Aprogas: good question.[00:26:12] <Aprogas> I vaguely remember there existed something like this.[00:40:47] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[00:41:07] *** Talirk81 has quit IRC[00:47:03] *** nadia has joined #postfix[00:47:50] <nadia> Hi Aprogas[00:49:00] <FFForever> I ran sendmail locally and it says Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to <root>. this is not a local address =\[00:49:31] <Aprogas> FFForever: sendmail -bv ?[00:50:18] <nadia> i just came to say thank you for the link u gave i resolved my problem yesterday, thought it's polite to say thx[00:50:20] <nadia> bye[00:50:38] <FFForever> # sendmail -bv user at remotedomain dot com < /etc/motd Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to <root>.[00:50:39] <Aprogas> nadia: Ok, I forgot what your issue was though.[00:51:00] *** nadia has quit IRC[00:51:47] <Aprogas> FFForever: Not sure if sendmail -bv takes any input. Is it a problem that it is sent to <root> ?[00:52:17] <FFForever> Aprogas, it is not a problem but I never get the remote email[00:54:56] *** adaptr has quit IRC[00:55:43] *** adaptr has joined #postfix[01:15:27] *** fury__ has quit IRC[01:16:31] <FFForever> How can I find out why my emails never make it to gmail?[01:17:09] <Aprogas> !tell FFForever logs[01:17:09] <knoba> FFForever: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung[01:17:29] <FFForever> Aprogas, the logs say the mail was delivered =\[01:18:45] <FFForever> nvm... damn gmail[01:21:53] *** Sky[x] has quit IRC[01:26:40] *** makomi has quit IRC[01:31:52] <Dominian> Aprogas: what about em?[01:31:54] <Dominian> seekwill: it works for me[01:32:34] <Dominian> Aprogas: and yeah.. thats my current restrictions list. Haven't updated it in a while.. small mail server.. nothing massive[01:32:36] <Aprogas> Dominian: You check SPF before rejecting non_fqdn. I don't expect sensible SPF records to be returned on non-FQDNs.[01:32:53] <Dominian> Aprogas: ahh the order yeah[01:33:13] <Dominian> Aprogas: nice catch.. I had that on my TODO list to chagne.. heh[01:33:37] <Aprogas> I like to put non-DNS checks above DNS-based checks as much as possible.[01:33:47] <Dominian> Aprogas: yep[01:33:53] <Dominian> same here.. thanks for reminding me[01:33:55] <Dominian> and fixed[01:34:14] <Dominian> see.. just shows you all.. even those of us using postfix for a long time have screw ups every so often[01:35:08] <lennard> I'll tell you a secret[01:35:13] <lennard> that doesn't just apply to postfix ;)[01:35:54] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[01:36:11] <Dominian> lennard: heh[01:37:22] <lennard> although I have yet to rm, chown or chmod / -R[01:37:32] <Dominian> hah[01:37:39] <Dominian> I one time.. was working inside a chroot...[01:37:47] <lennard> rm'ed ~/* once though)[01:37:50] <Dominian> failed to realized I had LEFT the chroot...[01:37:57] <Dominian> and did rm -rf /etc/*[01:38:05] <Dominian> talk about a pit in my stomack[01:38:10] <Dominian> *stomach[01:38:36] <Aprogas> I managed to hardwire my brain to take a step back and look at what I'm doing for many of those commands.[01:38:52] <Dominian> Aprogas: I do that now[01:39:02] <Dominian> However, at the time I was keeping local rsynced copies of /etc on the same disk[01:39:05] <Dominian> :)[01:39:08] <Aprogas> I've been SSHing to my VirtualBox which I halt -p when I'm done; I read my prompt five times to make sure I'm on the right host.[01:39:17] <Dominian> so cp -rpf /store/etc/* /etc/[01:57:35] *** macsim has quit IRC[01:58:59] *** johnjay has quit IRC[01:59:12] *** johnjay has joined #postfix[02:08:36] *** macsim has joined #postfix[02:23:12] *** Borg has joined #postfix[02:23:30] <Borg> cdb maps are incomplete/broken in postfix freebsd portage.[02:25:48] <Dominian> Borg: yell at freebsd[02:25:49] <Dominian> :)[02:25:55] <Dominian> Borg: how are they broken btw?[02:29:59] *** aptituz has quit IRC[02:30:14] *** aptituz has joined #postfix[02:45:42] *** superbofh has quit IRC[02:50:48] *** neekfenwick_ has joined #postfix[02:53:14] 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IRC[07:27:00] *** jamesmacleod has quit IRC[07:44:33] *** jamesmacleod has joined #postfix[08:05:01] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[08:08:33] *** cilly has joined #postfix[08:10:25] *** uqlev has quit IRC[08:10:53] *** elspic_buddha has joined #postfix[08:12:54] *** elspic_buddha has left #postfix[08:12:58] *** elspic_buddha has joined #postfix[08:14:51] <elspic_buddha> I have a program which sends out emails with the to: field formatted like this: "Bob Oso 5125551212^company=Test Company" <faxqueue at sendingcompany dot com>[08:16:54] <elspic_buddha> I've created an alias for faxqueue, and am trying to use the info the quotes, to trigger faxmail[08:17:23] <elspic_buddha> can somebody tell me how, or at what step I can access the name/number in quotes?[08:18:51] <elspic_buddha> for the alias I've tried faxqueue: "|/etc/test.txt" and faxqueue: "|/etc/test.sh"[08:19:23] <elspic_buddha> where test.sh is just a bash script that should echo any arguments passed to test.txt[08:19:36] *** Jippi_mac has joined #postfix[08:19:56] <elspic_buddha> and watching the maillog, I can see "status=sent (delivered to command: /etc/test.txt)"[08:20:14] <elspic_buddha> however, there is never anything in test.txt[08:25:42] *** zoo_ has joined #postfix[08:27:18] *** talin has joined #postfix[08:29:42] <talin> hello. could someone help me interpret what this means: http://codepad.org/ScfFyX2u ... it looks to me like some @virtua.com.br address is trying to send an e-mail to to a gmail address?[08:30:02] <talin> my server only allows relaying for "mynetworks" which is a small network[08:30:19] <talin> it is very unlikely that someone in my network has a virtua.com.br address[08:30:45] <talin> and the order of those IP-adresses should indicate something. does it indicate which IP it is coming from, and which one it is going to?[08:31:54] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[08:33:23] *** Kirok has quit IRC[08:34:45] *** zoo^ has joined #postfix[08:35:11] *** zoo^ has quit IRC[08:35:17] *** 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#postfix[09:34:15] *** shal3r has quit IRC[09:34:22] <talin> giga: good morning[09:34:52] *** karlgus has joined #postfix[09:35:45] *** e-jones has quit IRC[09:38:36] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[09:38:55] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:38:57] *** Sky[x] has joined #postfix[09:48:18] *** acidjazz has left #postfix[09:49:33] *** macsim has quit IRC[09:51:16] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[10:17:45] *** EagleWatch has joined #postfix[10:17:59] *** Schnoobby has joined #postfix[10:21:22] *** UQlev has quit IRC[10:29:38] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[10:38:57] *** rcsheets has quit IRC[10:40:39] *** Jippi_moc has joined #postfix[10:44:06] *** rcsheets has joined #postfix[10:49:53] *** wdp_aao has joined #postfix[10:51:10] *** rajijoom has joined #postfix[10:59:29] *** rajijoom has quit IRC[11:14:59] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[11:25:39] *** karlgus has quit IRC[11:26:04] *** karlgus has joined #postfix[11:27:09] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:27:14] *** makomi has joined #postfix[11:28:35] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[11:29:00] *** zoo_ has joined #postfix[11:30:24] *** zoo_ has quit IRC[11:32:00] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[11:37:12] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[11:38:35] *** makomi has quit IRC[11:39:18] *** makomi has joined #postfix[11:39:36] <Meskalyn> I'm using postfix (with mysql), I want to count "how much email" each mailbox send. http://pastebin.com/DLRpEUa5 << there is a way to "say" "UPDATE field SET sent = sent + 1; somewhere ?[11:41:40] <Aprogas> Maybe a log-file analyser is more useful for such things.[11:41:45] <sep> you can't solve it with pflogsumm ?[11:41:59] <Meskalyn> For now that's the "only" way I found[11:42:07] <Meskalyn> But I'm looking for a "real time" solution[11:42:43] *** Jippi_moc has quit IRC[11:42:50] <Schnoobby> do you have to save that in your database?[11:43:18] <Meskalyn> Not necessary, or in another database with some bash script for now work nice[11:43:40] *** Jippi_moc has joined #postfix[11:43:43] <Meskalyn> But postfix check it when it want to send a mail, so it could be the simplest way (sorry for my english)[11:44:48] <Aprogas> I guess a policy service or content filter could be made to do such a thing.[11:45:00] <sep> Meskalyn, cache will trick you (not count) and how can you detect that the query in fact failed and the mail was not send (counting to much)[11:45:44] <Meskalyn> Aprogas, yes, that's my next search. sep : I just thaught there was a "post_sql_cmd" config option or thing like this[11:45:53] <sep> Meskalyn, you can make a tiny daemon that tail's the log and updates base in real time[11:46:09] <sep> just make sure it's reloaded on logrotate and such[11:46:41] <Meskalyn> OK, policy or daemon. Thanks for your returns, I thought there was a built in option[11:47:03] <Aprogas> In my opinion accounting software shouldn't in any way be able to disrupt operations.[11:47:17] <sep> i agree[11:47:21] <Aprogas> So I strong advise against using the content filter or policy service approach, and favour the log-analyse approach.[11:47:39] <sep> read the logs and accept that it may lag by 1 minute[11:47:46] <sep> or tail and have almost real time[11:48:09] *** neekfenwick__ has joined #postfix[11:50:18] <Meskalyn> OK, for now, in PHP, I use a "fake" sendmail_path (with a script using sendmail), I thought there was the same stuff possible in postfix. tail should be ok or maybe just a cat in log each day. ("real time" mean (for my case) 1 day)[11:51:13] *** neekfenwick_ has quit IRC[11:51:50] <sysmonk> !policyd[11:51:50] <knoba> sysmonk: "policyd" : (#1) http://www.policyd.org/ : an anti-spam Postfix policy daemon, or (#2) . It also can manage throttling of email and a variety of other things not handled by postfix directly[11:51:58] <sysmonk> Meskalyn: that stuff is already done in policyd as far as i remember[11:52:35] <Aprogas> policyd does accounting?[11:54:07] <Meskalyn> Accounting: (Supported in: r343, v2.1.x)[11:54:08] <Meskalyn> Usage based accounting[11:54:12] <Meskalyn> nice ![11:55:55] <sysmonk> Aprogas: yes[11:56:13] <sysmonk> although i used only v1, but it had accounting as far as i remember[11:56:52] <sysmonk> Sender-(envelope, SASL or host / ip)-based throttling (on messages and/or volume per defined time unit), Recipient rate limiting,[11:57:31] <sysmonk> not really accounting, but if you set the limit to very large that nobody will be able to achieve, it will do the accounting only :P[12:01:17] *** makomi has quit IRC[12:02:32] *** henriknj has quit IRC[12:02:45] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:04:09] *** makomi has joined #postfix[12:04:54] *** cilly has quit IRC[12:05:00] *** cilly has joined #postfix[12:05:17] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[12:07:48] <Meskalyn> there is some "bash bin" to do a validate_email function ?[12:12:12] *** shoonya has quit IRC[12:13:40] *** makomi has quit IRC[12:26:15] *** johest|w has quit IRC[12:30:02] *** johest|w has joined #postfix[12:31:42] *** pkkm has joined #postfix[12:31:48] <pkkm> what does `postfix flush` do?[12:33:18] <sep> pkkm, man postfix ? and read about flush[12:36:55] *** screenn has joined #postfix[12:38:27] *** pkkm has quit IRC[12:39:37] <screenn> I've disconnected transport server for some time, so mail collected in mailq at relay host, but now the sever where configured transport up again, and I have this error "(delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with" when trying to postque -f or send a new mail to server[12:41:01] <screenn> I had this problem once, and mail was sended after couple of days, why not immediately?[12:46:59] *** xabbu has quit IRC[12:47:34] *** henriknj has quit IRC[12:47:45] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[12:49:21] *** henriknj has quit IRC[12:50:00] *** makomi has joined #postfix[12:51:33] *** shal3r has joined #postfix[12:54:39] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[12:59:09] *** xabbu has joined #postfix[13:03:59] *** famicom has quit IRC[13:04:29] *** famicom has joined #postfix[13:15:28] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[13:15:31] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:20:34] *** jwit_ has joined #postfix[13:20:41] *** jwit has quit IRC[13:28:25] *** rajijoom has joined #postfix[13:38:53] *** makomi has quit IRC[13:46:15] *** screenn has quit IRC[13:48:38] *** henriknj_ has joined #postfix[13:49:18] *** henriknj has quit IRC[14:09:22] *** bhagat has quit IRC[14:10:21] *** cga has joined #postfix[14:13:40] *** makomi has joined #postfix[14:15:03] *** makomi has quit IRC[14:15:03] *** makomi_ has joined #postfix[14:15:32] *** henriknj_ has quit IRC[14:24:39] <zamba> i'm trying to set up SASL on postfix using dovecot's auth method.. but when i telnet to postfix and issue ehlo i don't see the auth line[14:24:43] <zamba> how can i debug that?[14:30:17] <Dominian> !sasl[14:30:17] <knoba> Dominian: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[14:33:42] *** Duckboot has left #postfix[14:38:54] *** xabbu has quit IRC[14:40:00] <lunaphyte_> what have you tried so far?[14:40:13] *** macsim has joined #postfix[14:40:47] *** TomHome has quit IRC[14:41:17] <macsim> hi, something i didn't get on http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html it's write : # For Postfix 2.2 and later The SQL query template. and # For Postfix releases prior to 2.2. See mysql_table(5) for details. my postfix version is 2.5.5 I should use the 1st one ? or 2nd one ? (I'm not english)[14:41:34] <Dominian> 1st one[14:41:45] <macsim> Dominian, oki thanks ;)[14:41:50] <Dominian> welcome[14:54:45] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[15:05:16] *** Sieg has joined #postfix[15:09:13] *** wdp_aao has joined #postfix[15:11:18] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[15:11:22] *** johest|w has quit IRC[15:24:35] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[15:24:38] *** jim_SFU has joined #postfix[15:24:45] *** bezourx has joined #postfix[15:26:50] *** Sky[x] has quit IRC[15:31:09] *** GoGi2 has joined #postfix[15:31:30] *** GoGi2 has quit IRC[15:31:53] *** fken has joined #postfix[15:35:09] *** rajijoom has quit IRC[15:38:26] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[15:38:35] *** jwit_ is now known as jwit[15:38:45] *** bezourx has left #postfix[15:44:03] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[15:44:15] *** johest|w has joined #postfix[15:44:24] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:50:03] *** EagleWatch has quit IRC[16:03:24] *** jamesmacleod has quit IRC[16:04:52] *** JeffJohnson has joined #postfix[16:04:53] *** JeffJohnson has left #postfix[16:07:34] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[16:10:59] *** niceday5 has joined #postfix[16:11:11] <niceday5> hello all[16:11:19] *** e-jones has quit IRC[16:12:44] *** talin has quit IRC[16:12:51] <Aprogas> zamba: In my opinion SASL should only be done over TLS and not announced nor accepted for unencrypted connections.[16:12:57] <niceday5> Does anyone know how to prevent postfix from rejecting mail and instead send them to catch_all_rejected_mails@myadress?[16:13:35] <Aprogas> niceday5: For all addresses or only nonexistent local addresses?[16:14:10] <niceday5> Aprogas: for all addesses for local i'm using luser_relay which works fine[16:14:12] *** cga has left #postfix[16:15:10] <Aprogas> Virtual aliases support catchall too; but make very sure you understand the implications.[16:15:14] <Aprogas> !tell niceday5 virtual[16:15:14] <knoba> niceday5: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[16:16:13] <niceday5> I have configured postfix as "local delivery only" and know i want that all mails which are external are sent to one local address[16:17:11] <Aprogas> You mean you want to accept mails for domains you are not MX for?[16:18:22] <niceday5> Aprogas: I know Virtual aliases, but i'm not sure if this solves my problem. Because in virtual alias i can do something like @mydomain to mycatch@local but i need somthing for all external domains.[16:18:33] <niceday5> Aprogas: Yes that is what i want[16:19:06] <Aprogas> That doesn't sound sensible at all. Why do you want this?[16:19:28] *** UQlev has quit IRC[16:20:43] <niceday5> Aprogas: I have a test system for web development and on the plattform are generated mails for different users with external email adresses on this development system i don't want to get the mails sent out, but i want to see them if they look right.[16:22:42] <niceday5> Isn't there something like luser_relay for external addresses?[16:27:17] <macsim> I have this error :http://pastebin.org/883866 I don't get what's wrong my postfix user is vmail and the virtual_mailbox_base is well set /home/virtual (owser is vmail:vmail)[16:28:38] *** yuriy has joined #postfix[16:29:50] <niceday5> macsim: does /home/virtual/foo.bar/admin/Maildir exist?[16:30:07] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:30:43] *** yuriy has quit IRC[16:30:47] *** UQlev has quit IRC[16:31:11] *** cpm has quit IRC[16:31:13] <macsim> niceday5, no I create the virtual user account and try create his account with welcome message on server mail -s Welcome admin at foo dot bar < welcome.msg[16:31:22] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:31:50] *** Dominian has quit IRC[16:32:11] <niceday5> macsim So have a look at the maildirmake command[16:33:04] <macsim> niceday5, I use it on my /etc/procmailrc[16:33:52] <niceday5> macsim maybe the following links could help you:[16:33:55] <niceday5> http://www.gentoo.de/doc/de/virt-mail-howto.xml[16:34:04] <niceday5> Have a look at Point 7.[16:34:20] <macsim> niceday5, I don't speak german ;)[16:34:35] <macsim> niceday5, it's ok I change url to fr ;)[16:34:49] *** e-jones has joined #postfix[16:35:07] <niceday5> ok[16:36:49] <elspic_buddha> I have a program which sends out emails with the to: field formatted like this: "Bob Oso 5125551212^company=Test Company" <faxqueue at sendingcompany dot com>[16:36:58] <elspic_buddha> I've created an alias for faxqueue, and am trying to use the info the quotes, to trigger faxmail[16:37:15] <elspic_buddha> can somebody tell me how, or at what step I can access the name/number in quotes?[16:37:46] <elspic_buddha> for the alias I've tried faxqueue: "|/etc/test.txt" and faxqueue: "|/etc/test.sh"[16:38:20] <elspic_buddha> where test.sh is just a bash script that should echo any arguments passed to test.txt[16:38:27] <elspic_buddha> however, there is never anything in test.txt[16:38:50] *** Dominian has joined #postfix[16:39:07] *** cpm has joined #postfix[16:43:27] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[16:48:32] *** jamesmacleod has joined #postfix[16:50:59] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[16:51:42] <jelly> elspic_buddha: what arguments? It's a pipe.[16:53:31] *** cpm has quit IRC[16:53:33] *** karlgus has quit IRC[16:53:53] <elspic_buddha> jelly: that's where I'm losing things I guess. I was just trying that to see if I could find out what is passed via the alias[16:54:32] <jelly> elspic_buddha: you could white the stdin to a file then, not the arguments[16:55:16] <Blue-E1> hi guys, I have postfix/dovecot/saslauthd running, and I can receive mail to users (mail is not rejected to those users) but it is not synching up in squirrelmail. When I login with a suer new mail is not seen, but I can see the mail in each /var/spool/mail/user location.[16:55:34] <elspic_buddha> jelly: that would be something like: faxqueue: "|/etc/test.txt"[16:55:40] <elspic_buddha> right?[16:55:45] *** 64MAAIJ1E has joined #postfix[16:56:19] <elspic_buddha> watching the maillog, I can see that the message is passed to the file, however there's never anything in it[16:56:21] <jelly> elspic_buddha: no. piping implies a command to run. "|cat >> /etc/test.txt" perhaps[16:56:42] <jelly> elspic_buddha: you want to learn how pipes work[16:56:53] <elspic_buddha> ok, that makes more sense[16:57:13] <elspic_buddha> well, I took that example from another sendmail alias file[16:57:28] <jelly> "|/etc/test.txt"? Unlikely[16:57:36] <elspic_buddha> the name is my own[16:58:48] <elspic_buddha> but I see where I went wrong with that. To alias to a file, you don't include the pipe.[16:58:53] *** 64MAAIJ1E has quit IRC[16:59:00] *** ib-mobile has joined #postfix[16:59:20] *** e-jones has quit IRC[17:00:02] *** fken has quit IRC[17:00:19] *** cpm has joined #postfix[17:00:24] <ib-mobile> Is there a way to configure postfix to only relay mail for a specific list of hosts?[17:00:36] <will_> lol[17:00:44] <will_> relay_hosts ?[17:00:55] <rob0> no, mynetworks[17:01:01] <rob0> !basic[17:01:01] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[17:01:01] * ib-mobile looks[17:01:06] <will_> What's relay_hosts?[17:01:17] <rob0> no such param[17:01:30] <will_> oh!!! lol. That's for the other software...[17:01:47] *** norbi1 has joined #postfix[17:02:14] *** fken has joined #postfix[17:03:27] <norbi1> guys, can you tell me please how can i check for waiting list?[17:03:41] <norbi1> i want to see how many mails are waiting to be sended[17:05:12] <Blue-E2> ?join #squirrelmail[17:05:32] <norbi1> it is not sended via webmail[17:05:37] <norbi1> its via smtp[17:05:45] <norbi1> with a php mail script[17:06:03] <norbi1> i thougth that there is a processing list[17:06:20] <rob0> !mailq[17:06:20] <knoba> rob0: "mailq" : used to display mail currently in the postfix queues. To remove or requeue mail from the queues see the postsuper(1) command.[17:07:03] <norbi1> rob0: thanks, i will check for it[17:16:22] <cpm> qshape[17:17:54] *** fken has quit IRC[17:18:00] *** fken has joined #postfix[17:25:51] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:25:58] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:33:18] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[17:33:36] *** Cubber has joined #postfix[17:35:11] <Cubber> I have setup postfix on a gentoo server with virtual domain support. All the domains seem to be able to send and recieve emails, however when I send an email from a script on the local machine, or from a php web contact form the mail comes from root at servername dot localdomain instead of from one of the virtual domains. How can I make these emails come from one of my real domains without changing the hostname of the server itself?[17:37:56] <roe> Cubber, you need to read the man page about how to send email more completely using phpmail or mail (8 I think)[17:37:59] <roe> !mail[17:37:59] <knoba> roe: "mail" : mail(1) (also known as mailx(1)) is not a Postfix-provided command. For help with it, see its man page. More powerful, commonly available console- and CLI-based MUAs include mutt, alpine and nail (likewise, not supported here.)[17:38:16] <roe> ah (1)[17:40:03] <Cubber> I am using a sendmail command[17:40:11] <roe> ok...[17:40:13] <roe> !sendmail[17:40:13] <knoba> roe: "sendmail" : a pretty cryptic MTA that was famous in the ancient days of UNIX and still runs on a lot of mail servers. Don't confuse it with the "sendmail" command that is offered by Postfix to send emails (for compatibility reasons).[17:40:21] *** Vivek has joined #postfix[17:40:37] <Cubber> roe: well that is right it is the sendmail command packaged with postfix[17:40:47] <seekwill> Cubber: Read php.net/mail[17:40:47] *** Vivek has quit IRC[17:40:48] *** Vivek has joined #postfix[17:40:49] <roe> -f sender[17:41:01] <seekwill> roe: That's in the PHP manual :)[17:41:17] <roe> Cubber, yes, and the man page for sendmail tells you to use -f to set the sender[17:41:22] <Cubber> my issue is both with php and email sent by cron and such[17:41:26] <Cubber> ahh ok[17:41:28] <Cubber> roe thanks[17:41:31] <roe> you bet[17:41:44] <roe> man is your friend[17:42:17] <Cubber> yah I tried reading through some manuals for postfix but probably should have just looked at sendmail, I figured since I was using the postfix provided sendmail it would be in postfix docs[17:43:25] <macsim> I have this error with maildrop http://pastebin.org/884421 but I'm unable to found where it's come from, seams to be a right error but my rights are good, any idea ? thanks[17:43:39] <roe> !maildrop[17:43:39] <knoba> roe: "maildrop" : a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the "courier" mail server. See: http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/[17:44:09] <roe> might have better luck in #courier[17:44:16] <macsim> unable to found website "/~mrsam/maildrop/".[17:44:23] <macsim> ... :/[17:44:32] <roe> ha, guess we should update the link[17:44:45] <macsim> roe, ;)[17:44:49] <roe> http://www.courier-mta.org/[17:45:01] <seekwill> Cubber: Not stupid gmail. :)[17:45:14] <roe> !forget maildrop[17:45:36] <roe> !learn maildrop as "a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the "courier" mail server. See: http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop.html"[17:45:41] <roe> !maildrop[17:45:42] <knoba> roe: "maildrop" : a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the courier" mail server. See: http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop.html"[17:45:53] <cpm> !roe[17:45:53] <knoba> cpm: "roe" : has a good point[17:46:10] <Aprogas> maildrop is also a Postfix queue[17:46:32] <Aprogas> knoba does not like double-quotes btw, use single-quotes[17:46:41] <roe> I see that[17:46:44] <macsim> I still get this error :/ to=<admin at foo dot bar>, orig_to=<root at ns3696XX dot ovh.net>, relay=maildrop, delay=0, delays=0/0/0/0, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown. Command output: ERR: authdaemon: s_connect() failed: Permission denied Invalid user specified. )[17:47:04] <roe> !forget maildrop[17:47:16] <roe> !learn maildrop as 'a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the "courier" mail server. See: http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop.html'[17:47:22] <roe> !maildrop[17:47:22] <knoba> roe: "maildrop" : 'a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the courier mail server. See: http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop.html'[17:47:29] <Aprogas> You cannot escape double-quotes, don't even try.[17:47:31] <rob0> !pipe[17:47:31] <knoba> rob0: "pipe" : the pipe(8) daemon processes requests from the postfix queue manager to deliver messages to external commands. this program expects to be run from the master(8) process manager[17:47:39] <Cubber> seekwill do you know if they do any checks that will make my domain spam? Or do I just need to declare all of the stuff from my domain not spam?[17:48:06] <seekwill> Cubber: Gmail is one of the easiest places to send email to. You're doing something spammy[17:48:36] <Cubber> seekwill: hmm reversedns not setup correctly possibly?[17:48:54] <seekwill> Everything you can think of, and maybe more![17:49:06] <ib-mobile> Sorry, I got tied up on the phone - So back to my question. Is there a way to specify a list of hosts to relay mail for? I'm aware of the myNetworks and myNetworks_style paramaters, but they only let me specify hosts by subnet/class/localhost[17:49:12] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:49:17] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:49:35] <seekwill> ib-mobile: How would you like to specify hosts?[17:49:36] <ib-mobile> I want to be able to allow relaying only from specific hosts in the subnet[17:49:37] <roe> ib-mobile, mynetworks allows you to list IPs[17:50:19] <ib-mobile> roe - I haven't seen a doc that indicates that. do you have a link?[17:50:32] <roe> lets see what knoba has[17:50:35] <roe> !mynetworks[17:50:36] <knoba> roe: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.[17:51:10] <roe> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html[17:52:34] <roe> "Specify a list of network addresses or network/netmask patterns, separated by commas and/or whitespace."[17:52:58] <roe> I'm skeptical about how hard you looked[17:53:11] <jelly> !basic > ib-mobile[17:53:11] <knoba> jelly: Error: "basic" is not a valid command.[17:53:36] * jelly can't be bothered to look up the syntax needed to emulate rob0[17:54:08] <roe> !whisper basic ib-mobile[17:54:09] <knoba> roe: Error: No factoid matches that key.[17:54:12] <roe> !basic[17:54:12] <knoba> roe: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[17:54:29] <jelly> ib-mobile: that one.[17:54:45] <roe> ah...[17:54:57] <roe> !whisper jelly basic[17:55:10] <thumbs> !whisper thumbs rob0[17:55:10] <jelly> that worked[17:55:38] <jelly> !whisper sweet nothings[17:55:38] <knoba> jelly: Error: No factoid matches that key.[17:55:43] <roe> ha[17:55:52] <roe> no love for you[17:56:35] <roe> hrm, I wonder if mynetworks supports dns[17:56:44] <ib-mobile> k, but I still don't see where you can specify host addresses. unless I was to do something like 192.168.x.x/32? would that work?[17:56:55] <roe> no.[17:56:58] <ib-mobile> it isn't offered as one of the examples[17:57:11] <roe> mynetworks = 192.168.42.24, 192.168.42.164[17:57:42] <rob0> you CAN use DNS names, but it is not recommended. Names are resolved using system gethostbyname().[17:58:09] <roe> and if the example of exactly what you want isn't given you can't read the definition and create your config?[17:58:30] <roe> rob0, I'm just thinking about how much of a PITA ipv6 addresses are[17:59:46] <rob0> Of course you can use CIDR expressions in mynetworks. But, they have to be valid CIDR.[18:00:00] <ib-mobile> k, I'll give that a try. If this is an option, I think it needs to be made more clear because I've read several documents and non mentioned the use of host addresses instead of network addresses as an option for Mynetworks[18:00:30] <roe> your opinion has been filed[18:01:23] <ib-mobile> so, if I understand correctly, I should be able to specify a file with a list of addresses to allow via the hash:...[18:01:39] <roe> that would also be correct[18:02:46] <roe> and it doesn't have to be a hash table[18:02:54] <ib-mobile> thanks. I figured there must be a way. :)[18:03:47] <ib-mobile> roe, ic. so just specify a file seeing as it's just a simple list of hosts[18:12:42] * roe hands rob0 some hot CIDR[18:13:42] <rob0> ib-mobile: postconf.5.html#mynetworks linked from !basic[18:14:31] * seekwill spills his cidr all over roe[18:14:54] <roe> great! now I have all these networks to clean up[18:20:28] *** cilly has quit IRC[18:20:34] *** cilly has joined #postfix[18:25:32] *** UQlev has quit IRC[18:36:56] *** cillybabe has joined #postfix[18:37:02] *** cilly has quit IRC[18:39:17] *** Cubber has quit IRC[18:40:42] *** car has quit IRC[18:41:10] *** plee has quit IRC[18:42:36] *** juergen_dose has joined #postfix[18:44:42] *** makomi_ has quit IRC[18:46:00] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[19:03:00] *** MAAAAD has quit IRC[19:04:07] *** rgouveia has joined #postfix[19:06:03] *** MAAAAD has joined #postfix[19:10:30] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[19:14:20] *** Matic`Makovec has joined #postfix[19:15:42] *** ghoti_ has joined #postfix[19:18:42] *** ghoti has quit IRC[19:18:58] *** rgouveia has left #postfix[19:19:47] *** henriknj has quit IRC[19:21:29] *** juergen_dose has left #postfix[19:25:32] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[19:26:16] <Blue-E2> ok, so how do I create a user and make that the mail admin?[19:27:18] <seekwill> lol[19:27:27] <seekwill> useradd rob0[19:28:36] <Blue-E2> nono, lol I know how to create a user, but for instance, to migrate from mbox to maildir, documentation says I need to run that "as the user of the mailboxes, not as root"[19:29:11] <roe> and some how you interpreted 'user of the mailboxes' as 'mail admin'?[19:29:30] <Blue-E2> yes, "some how" =)[19:29:50] <roe> do an ls -l on one of your mboxes[19:30:02] <Blue-E2> so just run the mb2md as any old shlub user?[19:30:11] <roe> no[19:30:32] <roe> I might be coming to the party late, do we know *anything* about your configuration?[19:30:43] <Aprogas> Is this even Postfix related?[19:31:18] <roe> Blue-E2, who is the owner of the mboxes on your system?[19:31:34] <Blue-E2> Nothing in postfix is concerned with mbox vs. maildir?[19:31:52] <Aprogas> Blue-E2: It can be.[19:32:16] <roe> Blue-E2, to be honest, if you are using a third party MDA, then no, nothing in postfix cares about your mailstore format[19:32:21] <Aprogas> dovecot has a pretty good convert-plugin, and I think the new version has put it into a seperate program[19:32:25] <roe> but I have some time to kill, so I'd be happy to hep[19:32:27] <roe> help*[19:32:28] <Blue-E2> ok, obv I am a terrible nubile, what do you need to know in order to help[19:32:31] <Blue-E2> ty![19:32:39] <roe> Blue-E2, who is the owner of the mboxes on your system?[19:32:43] <Aprogas> I think mb2md has some limits[19:32:49] <Blue-E2> this is a mailserver I am attempting to build, me[19:33:07] <roe> ugh. Ok lets start a bit slower[19:33:12] <Blue-E2> owner is root[19:33:22] <Aprogas> Do you need a mailserver?[19:33:34] <roe> how many mailboxes do you need to convert?[19:33:42] <Blue-E2> we have 10 users[19:33:44] <Blue-E2> so 10[19:33:56] <roe> and all 10 of the mbox files are owned by root?[19:34:11] <Blue-E2> yes, Apro, I know its not the easiest route, I tried google apps mail and I cant use the webmail they serve[19:34:23] <Blue-E2> roe, how do I confirm that?[19:34:39] <roe> ugh[19:34:45] <Blue-E2> i know, sorry[19:34:45] <roe> ls -l[19:34:50] <Blue-E2> one moment[19:35:38] <Blue-E2> 1 line ex: -rw-rw---- 1 chris mail 0 Jul 28 09:06 chris[19:36:02] <roe> that looks like an empty file[19:36:17] <Blue-E2> yeah no mail to that user yet[19:36:22] <roe> ok, and the next one?[19:36:54] <roe> but ok, so mb2md needs to be run as user 'mark' on that mbox[19:36:59] <roe> get it?[19:37:09] <Blue-E2> ok, I get it![19:37:20] <Blue-E2> danke![19:37:41] <roe> I am sure you will be back here in a bit with 'I just broke everyone's email'[19:37:46] <roe> see ya soon :)[19:38:07] <Blue-E2> ok, well after I run this on each box, I will adjust the dovecot.conf to use maildir, then I'll be back[19:38:08] <Blue-E2> thanks[19:38:10] <Blue-E2> =)[19:39:48] *** stockholm has quit IRC[19:40:56] *** stockholm has joined #postfix[19:43:26] *** neekfenwick__ has quit IRC[19:45:14] <Blue-E2> ummm[19:45:51] <Blue-E2> how do I get mb2md? I can't yum it huh?[19:46:22] <roe> !goal[19:46:22] <knoba> roe: "goal" : describe your goal, not what you think the solution is[19:46:37] <roe> why do you want to convert to maildir?[19:47:04] <Blue-E2> well people in #dovecot said mbox is terribad[19:47:18] <Blue-E2> I got mb2md.pl[19:47:49] <roe> lets try something...[19:47:58] <Blue-E2> ok[19:48:25] <roe> dovecot is terrible, you should use UWimap[19:48:37] <Blue-E2> lol[19:48:53] <cpm> uwimap + tiny tiny tiny mboxes works really well.[19:49:04] <Blue-E2> ok, ok, but does it make sense that you would rather have emails as individual files vs one large file?[19:49:15] <cpm> depends[19:49:18] <Blue-E2> and my users will be attachign PDFs, some large[19:49:21] <roe> yes it could make perfect sense[19:49:32] <Blue-E2> not just short text bursts[19:49:38] <roe> maildir = lots of inodes[19:49:41] <cpm> but what has this to do with postfix?[19:49:45] <roe> which could be prolematic for your FS[19:49:52] <roe> problematic[19:50:28] <Blue-E2> ok, so then, say I stick with mbox for now. What conditions would warrant me migrating to maildir, in your opinion?[19:50:44] <roe> the point is your knowledge is clearly minimal, and to make changes to your mail server without really understanding what you are doing is a pretty good waste of everyone's time[19:50:54] <Blue-E2> agreed[19:51:24] <elspic_buddha> I have an alias setup: faxqueue: "|/etc/testfax.sh"[19:51:27] <roe> I suggest you read some of the ubiquitous documentation about the strengths and weaknesses of the two formats and come back and tell us the answer to your question[19:52:16] <Blue-E2> ok, fair enough. I am trying to learn this. Reading is the best way to do that.[19:52:20] <Blue-E2> Thank you.[19:52:22] <elspic_buddha> and would like to eventually use the testfax.sh script to extract info from the email and trigger faxmail, however for now, simply have it echo'ing the number of arguments passed to another file[19:52:27] <seekwill> So is experimenting ![19:52:44] <Blue-E2> yes, seekwill, it's how I've gotten this far.[19:53:02] <seekwill> Don't fix something unless it needs to be fixed[19:53:37] <Blue-E2> ok, but can't that sometimes lead to being unprepared?[19:53:56] <Schnoobby> Blue-E1, are you german?[19:54:10] <Blue-E2> why do you ask? but, no[19:54:29] <Schnoobby> 'cause you said danke!^^[19:54:40] <Blue-E1> ahh, just saying thanks, heh[20:05:21] *** MAAAAD has quit IRC[20:10:16] *** Schnoobby has quit IRC[20:11:04] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[20:12:17] <cite> adaptr: Do you need a new backport of 2.8, now that postscreen(8) got enhancements?[20:13:17] * rob0 backports cpm[20:13:25] <cpm> oh great[20:14:32] *** cillybabe has quit IRC[20:15:01] <rob0> Don't complain! You got the enhancements too![20:16:06] *** cilly has joined #postfix[20:19:09] * Motoko-chan is babying a postfix queue[20:20:34] <cpm> don't do that![20:21:48] <Motoko-chan> Why?[20:24:33] <seekwill> Don't![20:24:43] <Motoko-chan> But why?[20:24:49] <seekwill> Why do you want to?[20:24:59] <seekwill> Over parenting causes problems[20:25:57] <Motoko-chan> A 7k+ queue causes *me* problems with my customers.[20:27:35] *** higuita has quit IRC[20:27:36] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[20:28:01] <rob0> mmmm bbq[20:28:04] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[20:29:44] <Motoko-chan> Sounds good.[20:29:57] <Motoko-chan> I'll be getting free In-N-Out on the 23rd.[20:30:14] *** higuita has joined #postfix[20:30:43] * seekwill kickbans Motoko-chan[20:30:57] <Motoko-chan> ;_;[20:31:13] * seekwill misses CA[20:31:25] *** smica has joined #postfix[20:31:29] *** Alagar has quit IRC[20:31:40] <seekwill> What's wrong with a 7k queue?[20:32:13] <rob0> There's no need to fear! Postsuper(1)man is here![20:33:25] <Motoko-chan> Indeed.[20:33:29] *** cilly has quit IRC[20:33:38] <Motoko-chan> I'm holding messages from certain senders to let the queue clear.[20:34:01] <seekwill> Are you a bulk mailer?[20:34:06] <Motoko-chan> Using a combination of qshape, hold-from-mailq, and unhold-from-mailq (the last two being modifications of delete-from-mailq)[20:34:14] <Motoko-chan> No. I'm a bulk receiver.[20:34:25] <Dominian> that's what he said[20:34:30] <Motoko-chan> ...[20:34:35] <Dominian> yeah.. bad joke[20:34:38] * Dominian goes back to work[20:34:44] <seekwill> Why are the messages not being delivered to the mailstore? Where's the bottleneck?[20:34:53] <Motoko-chan> This mail environment is used by folks selling impressed products.[20:34:57] <Motoko-chan> Like pens with logos on them.[20:34:59] *** cilly has joined #postfix[20:35:10] <Motoko-chan> They get metric tons (if it was paper) of marketing mails sent to them.[20:35:21] <Motoko-chan> Bottleneck was amavisd-new locking up for two hours.[20:35:31] <seekwill> oh[20:35:39] <Motoko-chan> I'm just trying to get the queue back and flowing again.[20:35:40] <rob0> heh, that would do it[20:36:49] <cpm> it'll flow, just let it go.[20:37:00] <Motoko-chan> Not when it was at 7k and growing.[20:37:21] <Motoko-chan> I pulled all the blast sources (vresp, constantcontact, etc) off to hold.[20:37:27] <Motoko-chan> Let the other mail flow.[20:37:36] <Motoko-chan> Now I'm slowly releasing the held mail.[20:38:07] <seekwill> Try rebooting[20:38:12] <seekwill> It always fixes thing[20:38:12] <seekwill> s[20:38:26] <Motoko-chan> This isn't Windows...[20:38:30] <seekwill> oh[20:40:01] <Motoko-chan> Postfix doesn't really run on Windows.[20:40:22] <Aprogas> Don't mess with the queues.[20:40:22] *** rajijoom has joined #postfix[20:40:48] *** henriknj has quit IRC[20:41:12] <seekwill> I run Postfix in Windows![20:41:15] <seekwill> Windows 7![20:41:52] <Blue-E2> Postfix in windows? How?[20:42:01] <Dominian> CYGWIN solves EVERYTHING[20:42:05] <seekwill> yep[20:42:18] <Blue-E2> oh[20:42:18] <Dominian> seekwill: hell I even run APACHE in CYGWIN[20:42:23] <Dominian> BEAT THAT[20:42:26] <Dominian> even MYSQL[20:42:33] <seekwill> I know a guy who knows a guy who's brother's wife has a sister that knows a guy that ported Postfix to Win32[20:42:43] <Blue-E2> .. hah[20:42:52] *** jim_SFU has quit IRC[20:42:58] <Dominian> seekwill: I think I know the brother of that sister of that cousin who had an uncle that new a guy that had a friend who knew that guy that ported postfix to win32[20:43:19] <seekwill> Whoa! What a small world[20:43:19] * roe 's head explodes[20:43:31] <Blue-E2> 6 degrees of spearation?[20:43:34] <roe> can I get a diagram of that sentence?[20:44:15] <Dominian> roe: oh that's nothing... that guy knew this chick that knew this other guy... his cousin's best friend's wife's cousin twice removed, well their step-father's grandfather's cousin's niece knew the same guy![20:44:19] <Motoko-chan> I tried to compile Postfix in Cygwin a while back. Didn't work. I suppose it's fixed now.[20:44:39] <Motoko-chan> Cygwin doesn't solve anything. 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