September 5, 2010 
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September 5, 2010 [00:03:40] *** biggimat has quit IRC[00:11:43] *** tharkun has quit IRC[00:13:41] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[00:20:24] *** cga has quit IRC[00:22:10] *** makomi has quit IRC[00:23:10] *** makomi has joined #postfix[00:24:58] *** hever has joined #postfix[00:27:15] *** henriknj has quit IRC[00:27:25] *** mtrg has quit IRC[00:37:29] *** smica has quit IRC[00:42:46] *** makomi has quit IRC[01:02:40] <Tom-B> I am having an issue with the relay aspect of postfix.[01:03:08] <Tom-B> I get "The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server." when I try to send to an address that is outside of my "allowed" virtual domains[01:03:39] <Tom-B> I'd like to set-up the relay to be allowed but users have to authenticate before they can send? can anyone suggest what to do or a tutorial please?[01:04:02] <Tom-B> Thus far I have followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto[01:04:24] <Zerberus> Tom-B: just read the original Postfix docs[01:04:37] <Zerberus> for authentication the SASL_README[01:05:11] <Tom-B> Where are the original postfix docs located?[01:06:33] <Zerberus> should shipt with your distribution[01:06:47] <Zerberus> and are available on postfix.org[01:06:57] <Zerberus> s/shipt/ship[01:07:32] <Tom-B> http://old.thecabal.org/devin/postfix/smtp-auth.txt the correct one? :)[01:08:57] <Zerberus> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html[01:12:19] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[01:13:24] <Tom-B> Thanks[01:34:33] *** astromme has joined #postfix[01:55:50] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[02:04:10] *** Jippi_mac has quit IRC[02:06:02] *** Southron has left #postfix[02:46:12] *** hever has quit IRC[03:53:13] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[03:53:21] *** higuita has quit IRC[03:55:58] *** higuita has joined #postfix[04:20:39] *** higuita has quit IRC[04:23:19] *** higuita has joined #postfix[04:25:27] *** inflex has joined #postfix[04:25:55] <inflex> hiya all - wondering if there's a simple way to make my own local Postfix on my workstation use the SSL wrapped port 465 on my email server on the net ?[04:26:01] <inflex> (for forwarding emails)[04:29:56] <roe> huh?[04:30:09] <roe> what is your goal exactly?[04:30:39] <roe> you want one instance of postfix to forward to another instance of postfix using smtps?[04:30:48] <inflex> Correct.[04:30:54] <roe> sure, that isn't difficult[04:35:38] <roe> something like[04:35:45] <roe> !smtp_tls_policy_maps[04:35:45] <knoba> roe: "smtp_tls_policy_maps" : optional lookup tables with the Postfix SMTP client TLS security policy by next-hop destination. The lookup result is a security level (none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure), followed by an optional list of whitespace and/or comma separated name=value attributes that override related main.cf settings. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.[04:35:52] <roe> and[04:35:55] <roe> !relayhost[04:35:55] <knoba> roe: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid.[04:39:55] <inflex> tx[04:49:15] *** higuita has quit IRC[04:51:59] *** higuita has joined #postfix[04:54:17] *** nokia3510 has quit IRC[04:54:56] *** nokia3510 has joined #postfix[04:59:02] *** nokia3510 has quit IRC[05:16:01] *** LowKey has quit IRC[05:27:19] *** MOUNIBEC has joined #postfix[05:27:48] <MOUNIBEC> Hi guys[05:28:15] <MOUNIBEC> Do you a tutorial on how to install Sender-Id for Postfix ?[05:49:58] *** sameerynho has joined #postfix[05:50:08] *** sameerynho has left #postfix[05:52:44] *** ghobad has joined #postfix[05:53:19] *** sjobeck has joined #postfix[05:54:45] <MOUNIBEC> Do you a tutorial on how to install Sender-Id for Postfix ?[05:54:51] <sjobeck> hey hi all. hope all well. i have an odd one. i have a mail filter server which i have maintained for 8 yrs working perfectly but i just went to add a new subnet to "mynetworks" and it is not showing up nor taking effect. postconf -d shows only localhost & the lan but not my other couple subnets. i cant get it to take them. any one see this before?[05:56:48] *** swombat has quit IRC[05:57:59] *** weedar has joined #postfix[05:59:15] <ghobad> hi all. I study postfix source code to develop it.[05:59:39] <ghobad> I am tow question:[06:00:46] <ghobad> 1- How create mail folder in postfix as a postfix user?[06:02:28] <ghobad> 2- which postfix's module (in the postfix source code) create mail folder ?(as postfix developer)[06:04:14] *** sjobeck has left #postfix[06:04:32] <ghobad> I just understand postfix mail folder name start with "inbox." and follow by optional mail folder name.[06:06:15] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[06:07:31] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[06:07:32] *** weedar has quit IRC[06:09:34] <ghobad> Can any one help me?[06:35:47] *** ramoni has quit IRC[06:47:50] *** mandragor is now known as weedar[06:51:08] *** Jasonsmr has joined #postfix[06:51:23] <Jasonsmr> hello Im trying to setup postfix for the first time[06:52:02] <Jasonsmr> and I wanted to know in the main.cf file what to put for both myhostname = example.com and mydomain= example.com[07:02:20] <Nombrandue> Jasonsmr, you would put your domain name there. if your email address is email at anetwork dot org you would change example.com with the anetwork.org in your email address[07:13:06] *** ghobad has quit IRC[07:16:18] *** inflex has left #postfix[07:21:14] <Jasonsmr> what do I do to send mail from a diffrent address and set up my server as a recive only, or how should that work?[07:25:41] <joschi> !tell Jasonsmr basic[07:25:42] <knoba> Jasonsmr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[07:30:33] *** Jasonsmr_ has joined #postfix[07:33:06] *** Jasonsmr has quit IRC[07:39:17] *** higuita has quit IRC[07:41:04] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[07:42:06] *** higuita has joined #postfix[07:44:02] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[07:46:22] *** MOUNIBEC has quit IRC[07:54:21] <standon> rob0: my goodness, alif has *lost* it.[08:00:32] *** Jasonsmr_ has quit IRC[08:02:52] <joschi> who's alif?[08:07:59] *** ghobad has joined #postfix[08:17:39] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[08:17:47] *** weedar has quit IRC[08:21:26] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[08:24:24] *** mandragor has quit IRC[08:25:08] *** Matic`Makovec has joined #postfix[08:28:36] *** LowKey has joined #postfix[08:29:40] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[08:29:45] *** mandragor is now known as weedar[08:31:52] *** uqlev has quit IRC[08:32:46] *** MOUNIBEC has joined #postfix[08:51:35] *** cga has joined #postfix[08:53:07] *** higuita has quit IRC[08:56:11] *** higuita has joined #postfix[08:58:02] *** MOUNIBEC has quit IRC[09:16:34] <Aprogas> multirbl.valli.org > robtex.com[09:23:10] *** DogWater has quit IRC[09:23:13] *** Tadej_ has joined #postfix[09:23:48] *** seekwill has quit IRC[09:25:11] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[09:26:20] *** Tadej__ has quit IRC[09:26:46] *** DogWater has joined #postfix[09:31:25] *** xpeed has quit IRC[09:37:05] *** Jasonsmr has joined #postfix[09:37:46] <Jasonsmr> in what situation in creating a certificate athority would one generate a pem file?[09:38:19] <Jasonsmr> with the following command would be used to create a pem using the command in terminal :: make hostname.pem[09:38:28] *** henriknj has joined #postfix[09:38:29] *** higuita has quit IRC[09:38:46] <Jasonsmr> of course this is the perhaps most vague security question I have ever asked[09:39:15] <Jasonsmr> I was reading a list of things to to when setting up postfix with a external smtp[09:39:41] <Jasonsmr> would openssl method for a pem creation suffice or some other>?[09:41:20] *** higuita has joined #postfix[09:41:59] <Aprogas> !tell Jasonsmr ssl[09:42:00] <knoba> Aprogas: Error: No factoid matches that key.[09:42:03] <Aprogas> !tell Jasonsmr tls[09:42:04] <knoba> Jasonsmr: "tls" : Short for Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). It adds an additional layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, POP3 or IMAP to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS features in Postfix are documented here: http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html[09:52:08] *** Dominian has quit IRC[09:52:26] *** Dominian has joined #postfix[09:55:10] *** higuita has quit IRC[09:58:09] *** higuita has joined #postfix[10:11:16] <cga> !seen Signum[10:11:17] <knoba> cga: Signum was last seen in #postfix 3 days, 12 hours, 26 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Signum> :)[10:11:24] <cga> mmmm[10:11:30] <cga> but Signum is here[10:13:37] <cga> anyhow, good morning everyone[10:26:54] *** Jasonsmr_ has joined #postfix[10:27:46] *** Jasonsmr_ has quit IRC[10:29:05] *** Jasonsmr has quit IRC[10:32:21] *** AstralStorm has quit IRC[10:39:34] *** hever has joined #postfix[10:43:47] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[10:44:08] *** higuita has quit IRC[10:44:15] *** hever has quit IRC[10:45:20] *** hever has joined #postfix[10:46:40] *** higuita has joined #postfix[10:48:11] *** war9407 has quit IRC[10:49:40] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[10:50:09] *** makomi has joined #postfix[10:55:35] *** weedar has quit IRC[10:55:49] *** weedar has joined #postfix[10:57:11] *** Trengo has quit IRC[11:14:46] *** NotInternat has joined #postfix[11:16:50] *** Internat has quit IRC[11:17:59] *** cga has quit IRC[11:19:37] *** weedar has quit IRC[11:19:54] *** weedar has joined #postfix[11:25:57] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:27:54] *** hever has quit IRC[11:28:08] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[11:28:38] *** hever has joined #postfix[11:33:11] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:33:37] *** hever has quit IRC[11:40:33] *** weedar has left #postfix[11:46:02] *** wdp has quit IRC[11:56:20] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:00:23] *** lennard has quit IRC[12:06:30] *** Huhuha has joined #postfix[12:06:33] <Huhuha> asd[12:07:01] <Aprogas> f[12:07:29] <Huhuha> Hello, i have problem :([12:07:38] <Aprogas> !tell Huhuha welcome[12:07:39] <knoba> Huhuha: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[12:07:54] *** swombat has joined #postfix[12:07:58] <Huhuha> je je je[12:08:19] *** wdp has quit IRC[12:08:50] <Huhuha> So...[12:10:09] <Huhuha> Im using postfix+dovecot+roundcube. All works perfectly over 2 months...[12:11:09] <Huhuha> And now client cant send message outside server...[12:11:43] <Huhuha> Whell i connect to server from my pc via telnet, i get this error:[12:13:37] <Huhuha> 220 mail.rambo.net ESMTP (rambo.net)[12:13:37] <Huhuha> EHLO rambo.net[12:13:37] <Huhuha> 250-mail.rambo.net[12:13:37] <Huhuha> ...[12:13:37] <Huhuha> 250 DSN[12:13:37] <Huhuha> MAIL FROM:root at rambo dot net[12:13:37] <Huhuha> 250 2.1.0 Ok[12:13:38] <Huhuha> RCPT TO:rambo18 at gmail dot com[12:13:38] <Huhuha> 554 5.7.1 <rambo18 at gmail dot com>: Relay access denied[12:13:53] <Huhuha> Can u help me diagnose problem? :)[12:14:18] <Matic`Makovec> You could try showing your configuration file. Pasting on pastebin or so might be the idea[12:14:29] <Huhuha> kk[12:14:37] <Aprogas> !tell Huhuha paste[12:14:38] <knoba> Huhuha: "paste" : do not paste more than 3-4 lines in the channel. a pastebin is a way to share larger amounts of data with others, without flooding the channel with garbage. try http://pastebin.com or http://paste.debian.net (or use google and find your own). don't forget to tell us the url where you pasted the text[12:14:57] <Aprogas> !tell Huhuha relay_denied[12:14:58] <knoba> Huhuha: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domain[12:15:20] <Huhuha> But this config work over 2 months and i not change nothing...[12:16:28] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:18:49] <Huhuha> here is postconf -n: http://pastebin.com/wSfDN28J[12:20:55] <Aprogas> Are you connecting from a host that is in mynetworks?[12:21:24] <Huhuha> yep[12:21:40] <Huhuha> via rondcube[12:22:25] <Huhuha> kk, i try telnet on localhost[12:22:38] <Aprogas> I think you should paste the logs, not just the result of the telnet session.[12:22:43] <Aprogas> s/paste/pastebin/[12:24:16] <Huhuha> hmy[12:24:39] <Huhuha> its work on telnet via localhost ;x[12:24:59] <Aprogas> !tell Huhuha logs[12:25:00] <knoba> Huhuha: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going. also see !no_logs and !have2mung[12:29:26] <Huhuha> ./var/log/mail.info http://pastebin.com/pWfkUUab[12:31:28] <Huhuha> ./var/log/mail.log http://pastebin.com/7XE51Wcf[12:31:45] <Huhuha> ./var/log/mail.error is empty[12:33:38] <Huhuha> ./var/log/mail.warn http://pastebin.com/NWPeZpgW[12:33:40] *** ghobad has quit IRC[12:34:27] <Aprogas> I don't see your relay denied error in those logs.[12:34:52] <Huhuha> should be in mail.error?[12:35:14] <Aprogas> Personally I only use mail.log, it depends how your syslog is setup.[12:35:31] <Aprogas> You should look at your logs at the same time as trying to send the mail.[12:35:40] <Huhuha> kk[12:35:42] <Aprogas> If you get an error in your mail client, you should also see it in the logs.[12:36:29] *** ghobad has joined #postfix[12:40:08] <Huhuha> and nothing on log about postfix/smtp... when i press Send button on client, get error: "SMTP error -1" Cant connect to server...[12:40:19] <Aprogas> !tell Huhuha no_logs[12:40:20] <knoba> Huhuha: "no_logs" : Nothing in your mail logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question. also see !logs.[12:43:14] *** weedar has joined #postfix[12:43:17] <zoo_> is there a way to debug the mysql queries that postfix is doing?[12:44:00] <joschi> !tell zoo_ verbose[12:44:01] <knoba> zoo_: "verbose" : You probably do not need verbose logging, but in rare cases the extra detail can assist in debugging. To set verbose logging add a -v after the command name (such as smtpd) in master.cf, then 'postfix reload' after that.[12:44:52] *** makomi has quit IRC[12:45:16] *** Vivek has joined #postfix[12:48:47] *** ghobad has quit IRC[12:50:04] <adaptr> zoo_: postfix will do the queries you tell it to. if you need to check your maps, see[12:50:06] <adaptr> !postmapq[12:50:06] <knoba> adaptr: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf you may check this mapping by running postmap -q example.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf and see if it works.[12:51:47] *** weedar has quit IRC[12:53:16] <Huhuha> Ok, fixed.[12:54:32] <Huhuha> $rcmail_config['smtp_server'] = 'mail.rambo.net'; changed to rambo.net on webclient[12:54:45] <Huhuha> But why this work before?[12:56:20] <adaptr> Huhuha: you're not using postfix[12:57:36] <Huhuha> Ok, nvm... :D[12:57:45] <Huhuha> Thx for help for all.[12:57:52] <Huhuha> Thx Aprogas[13:00:35] *** MatBoy_ has quit IRC[13:05:31] *** weedar has joined #postfix[13:07:47] *** cga has joined #postfix[13:36:53] *** higuita has quit IRC[13:39:10] *** higuita has joined #postfix[13:43:31] *** weedar has quit IRC[13:59:13] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[13:59:29] <cite> Anyone here subscribed to spam-l? WTH is going on there, and why is that last posting from J.A. almost unreadable?[14:02:14] <dragonheart> probably nothing postfix broke or can fix[14:02:19] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[14:10:04] <rob0> cite, I am one of the "deposed" listmoms. I don't know, I think he has lost it. I asked him to turn over control of the domain and let us set up alternate hosting. He's not replying to that.[14:13:05] <cite> rob0: I'm not used to JA writing this way. Neither am I used to "charges" being made by the listmoms, nor do I want to get used to people being publicly unsubscribed.[14:13:36] <rob0> yes, he was clearly wrong and the rest of us were unanimous about that.[14:14:28] <cite> Would you mind keeping me posted if you get either new listmoms or the domain re-hosted? I think I'll unsubscribe until then.[14:14:49] <rob0> sure, thanks for the input, I will share it with the others[14:14:58] <cite> Thanks in advance.[14:15:28] <cite> I'd offer hosting, but seeing who you listmoms are, that's hardly necessary.[14:15:31] <cite> ;-)[14:16:11] <rob0> heh, I'm rather hesitant to host it myself, but I do think we have enough other options.[14:16:46] <cite> That's what I meant. Anyways, gonna unsubscribe now and then go out, enjoy the last sunshine this summer has to offer.[14:16:54] <cite> bbl[14:16:57] <rob0> enjoy[14:23:55] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[14:24:04] *** Huhuha has quit IRC[14:29:02] *** higuita has quit IRC[14:29:39] *** henriknj has quit IRC[14:30:11] <adaptr> spam-l ?[14:31:39] *** higuita has joined #postfix[14:32:19] *** uqlev has quit IRC[14:33:25] <Aprogas> !tell adaptr parrot[14:33:26] <knoba> adaptr: "parrot" : please don't repeat what someone else has said and tack a question mark on to the end. if you don't understand something about what was said, or have a question, that's fine - just ask it. those who donate their time here aren't interested in guessing what the ? actually means, typing an explanation, and hoping that they're right.[14:33:45] <adaptr> Aprogas: yeah, thanks, noob[14:33:45] <Aprogas> factoids are more fun when applied to people they shouldn't be applied to[14:34:20] <adaptr> y'all be relieved I can't import fajita into #postfix[14:35:47] <Aprogas> I know lunaphyte_ runs dig-dug on #dns and #bind; didn't know you had a bot as well.[14:37:40] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[14:41:08] *** wdp has quit IRC[14:49:20] *** sn6 has joined #postfix[14:49:37] <sn6> Is there a way to combine two header checks? That is, /^From: foo/ && /^To: bar/?[14:51:32] <dragonheart> in short not easily - in long one header check and return FILTER something and that filter can do the second check[14:52:00] *** Vivek has quit IRC[14:52:21] <Aprogas> The header_checks readme uses plural "patterns" for the if/endif syntax, suggesting multiple patterns can be used.[14:59:58] <dragonheart> header_checks(5) description talks about one header field at a time[15:18:53] *** misterJack is now known as misterjack[15:24:37] <Aprogas> I just made my first MySQL-backed virtual_alias_maps. Seems to work.[15:26:43] *** Trengo has joined #postfix[15:37:21] <rob0> header_checks(5) is almost always the wrong answer. Probably what you want to do can be done by combining check_recipient_access and check_sender_access.[15:37:39] <rob0> !tell sn6 restriction_class[15:37:40] <knoba> sn6: "restriction_class" : postfix per-client/user/etc. access control http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html[15:37:49] <rob0> !tell sn6 access[15:37:50] <knoba> sn6: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[15:38:56] <adaptr> rob0: what postfix feature allows me to run checks on incoming message headers ?[15:39:24] * rob0 smacks adaptr[15:39:31] <adaptr> well, you did say ALMOST[15:40:37] <sn6> rob0: I want to cause a 400/500 error whenever twitter send something (but to me only)[15:40:51] <adaptr> ..or you could unsubscribe from twitter[15:41:08] <sn6> adaptr: if it only were that easy[15:41:18] <adaptr> it is that easy[15:41:22] <rob0> sure, what I described can do it[15:41:23] <sn6> company put me on the support mainling list, which itself is subscribed[15:42:54] <adaptr> then you should probably be getting them[15:43:14] <adaptr> anyhoo, a simple restriction class will solve it[15:43:30] <sn6> heck no. whoever the idiot was to link a mailing list with twitter[15:44:21] <adaptr> mm.. interesting concept. I wonder if that makes it possible to forkbomb twitter.. why don't we subscribe the linux kernel ML[15:44:51] <adaptr> are most MLMs aware of being subscribed to another MLM ?[15:45:29] <sn6> They probably check X-Mailing-List. But TW does not use that header.[15:45:59] <adaptr> no, I didn't mean twitter here. but you only have to send a mail from a list address ONCE to mess it up beyond recognition :)[15:58:25] *** pa has quit IRC[16:02:38] *** pa has joined #postfix[16:02:42] *** pa has quit IRC[16:02:42] *** pa has joined #postfix[16:09:07] *** higuita has quit IRC[16:11:54] *** karlgus has joined #postfix[16:21:09] *** karlgus has quit IRC[16:21:43] *** karlgus has joined #postfix[16:22:13] *** weedar has joined #postfix[16:32:04] *** weedar has quit IRC[16:36:43] *** pa has joined #postfix[16:38:19] *** weedar has joined #postfix[16:45:30] *** weedar has quit IRC[16:50:37] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[16:54:07] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[17:06:26] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[17:17:41] *** weedar has joined #postfix[17:25:53] <MatBoy> does someone know a good pipescript to pipe mails to a mysql DB ?[17:34:21] <Zerberus> MatBoy: for what it's worth: http://www.dbmail.org/[17:34:22] *** MOUNIBEC has joined #postfix[17:34:22] <adaptr> MatBoy: dbmail works fine as it is, but it's a full IMAP server.[17:38:23] *** makomi has joined #postfix[17:48:40] <MatBoy> I need it for some tracking system... so I think I can do it with a script only[18:03:59] *** GoGi has quit IRC[18:04:36] *** weedar has quit IRC[18:04:48] *** weedar has joined #postfix[18:09:15] *** mandragor has joined #postfix[18:09:17] *** weedar has quit IRC[18:09:41] *** mandragor is now known as weedar[18:42:41] <MatBoy> guys, can I filter to only pipe the mail when sent to mailbox at domain dot com ?[18:49:29] <Aprogas> Is domain.com run by you? Is mailbox owned by a local UNIX user?[18:57:08] <MatBoy> Aprogas: I have a mysql based postfix backend, so I'm confused[18:58:15] <MatBoy> Aprogas: yes, own mailservers :)[18:59:30] <Aprogas> What exactly do you mean with "pipe to a DB" ? You want to store the emails into a mySQL database?[19:00:32] <MatBoy> Aprogas: yes, i have a script that does this, but I need to let postfix know when I receive an email to mailbox at domain dot com it needs to run the script for it[19:01:13] <MatBoy> I was thinking about this in aliases: support: "|/usr/bin/php -q /var/www/html/CE_DIRECTORY/SupportPipe.php"[19:01:24] <MatBoy> and in virtual: support at yourdomain dot com support[19:01:33] <MatBoy> but I wonder if this works when my backend is MySQL based[19:02:06] <Aprogas> You can only pipe in local-aliases, not virtual-aliases.[19:02:18] *** tomocha6 has joined #postfix[19:02:19] <MatBoy> so I need to create a mailbox ?[19:02:19] *** qdb has joined #postfix[19:02:36] <Aprogas> I recommend using qualified addresses only, e.g. support@localhost[19:02:46] <MatBoy> ok[19:02:52] <MatBoy> but what about my mysql backend ?[19:03:00] <Aprogas> Yes, you can use an SQL-backed virtual alias to rewrite to a local user.[19:03:01] <qdb> hello. i have not ptr record and my mails to some hosts are rejected. does my postfix also reject such mails?[19:03:19] <Aprogas> qdb: Not by default, but you should get your reverse DNS fixed. Contact your hosting provider.[19:03:32] <qdb> ok. thank you[19:03:40] *** qdb has left #postfix[19:04:18] <Aprogas> MatBoy: Would you pastebin for me how you setup your virtual aliases, and how you created the table? I too am learning SQL-backed aliases, and I'm curious to how different people set it up.[19:04:43] <MatBoy> Aprogas: use the way of postfixadmin :)[19:08:19] <MatBoy> Aprogas: mhh, difficult[19:11:03] *** Tadej_ has quit IRC[19:13:13] <Aprogas> Does postfixadmin have any documentation?[19:14:32] *** makomi has quit IRC[19:14:39] <MatBoy> Aprogas: in their docs I thought yes[19:14:43] <Aprogas> Maybe this isn't such a strange idea, since some other admins should also use it who are less Postfix-savvy.[19:14:50] <Aprogas> Does pfa leave my existing installation alone?[19:15:16] <MatBoy> Aprogas: yes, it only reads and changes records when you want it to :)[19:15:29] <MatBoy> Aprogas: that piping seems to be an issue with a mysql backend[19:15:55] <Aprogas> Provide logs to see where it goes amiss.[19:16:13] <Aprogas> Are you editing aliases via pfa? Are you sure you are editing the local(8) aliases?[19:16:25] <MatBoy> I just putted the script path into the DB as an alias... that does not seems to work[19:17:48] <Aprogas> We needs logs and postconf -n[19:17:52] <Aprogas> And other relevant information.[19:18:26] <MatBoy> Aprogas: you don't when I first know what is best to set the pipe up :) my mailserver works pretty good ;)[19:19:02] *** xpeed has joined #postfix[19:23:08] <Aprogas> I couldn't parse that sentence.[19:25:37] <MatBoy> syntax error :P[19:52:35] *** [Sergiu] has joined #postfix[19:54:21] <[Sergiu]> I have set home_mailbox = Maildir/ ... any ideas why it keeps creating cur/new/tmp in user's home instead of user's home/Maildir ?[19:56:21] <Aprogas> !tell [Sergiu] welcome[19:56:22] <knoba> Aprogas: Error: "Sergiu" is not a valid command.[19:56:37] * Aprogas is confused[19:56:41] <Aprogas> !tell Sergiu welcome[19:56:42] <knoba> Sergiu: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[19:57:32] *** BlackBishop has joined #postfix[19:58:24] <[Sergiu]> http://pf.pastebin.com/ftLvHfB3 this is my postconf[19:58:51] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[19:59:24] <[Sergiu]> and it still creates /home/vmail/domain/user/{cur new tmp} instead of /home/vmail/domain/user/Maildir/{cur tmp new }[20:00:17] <Aprogas> You are using virtual mailboxes, home_mailbox only applies to local mailboxes.[20:00:49] <Aprogas> You'd have to change the entries in your virtual mailbox table.[20:04:05] <Aprogas> Or just accept the paths as they are; I think Maildir/ is redundant for a directory that will solely house mailboxes.[20:15:37] <adaptr> it is not only redundant, it doesn't work[20:15:52] <adaptr> a path that ends in a slash is by definition a maildir[20:16:27] <adaptr> unless that's not what you meant[20:32:01] *** mroe has joined #postfix[20:40:35] *** AstralStorm has joined #postfix[20:40:49] <AstralStorm> hello again,[20:41:10] *** LowKey has quit IRC[20:41:16] <AstralStorm> how does the permissions postfix needs work with a virtual mail setup?[20:41:35] <mroe> huh?[20:42:01] <mroe> do you mean who owns the mailstore for all users when users don't have system accounts?[20:42:17] <AstralStorm> all dirs owned by postfix[20:42:25] <AstralStorm> exactly[20:42:39] <AstralStorm> I don't want any real user mail[20:43:03] <mroe> one generally creates a dedicated system user 'vmail' or 'virtual' or something else as identifiable and keeps all users mail owned by that user[20:43:04] <AstralStorm> (courier-imap should be able to access this too)[20:43:39] <AstralStorm> does postfix still need root then? (it shouldn't, I think...)[20:43:56] *** MOUNIBEC has quit IRC[20:44:09] <mroe> I don't understand what you are asking there[20:44:40] <AstralStorm> see, one part that postfix needs root for is that it needs to run the delivery agent as the user[20:44:54] <AstralStorm> now if all the accounts are virtual and the owner of those is the same as the user postfix is running as...[20:45:37] <AstralStorm> it should be possible to run it as user in such a configuration[20:46:19] *** sn6 has left #postfix[20:46:30] <mroe> sure, but I wouldn't recommend that[20:46:57] <mroe> are you also going to run your imap/pop service as user 'postfix'?[20:47:00] <AstralStorm> why? is it more secure to run as root in that case or something?[20:47:18] <AstralStorm> no, user will be called mail, but more or less[20:47:24] <AstralStorm> actually, they will be in the same group[20:47:29] <AstralStorm> but not the same user[20:47:38] <mroe> whatever floats your boat[20:47:53] <AstralStorm> hmmh[20:48:14] <AstralStorm> in fact, I could put all this into a "vm" that is user mode linux[20:48:16] <Aprogas> Only the tiny master process runs as root by default, e.g. to open ports below 1024[20:49:12] <AstralStorm> Aprogas: a user can have the capability to do that, cap_net_bind_service[20:49:23] <AstralStorm> although, oh what the hell, I'll use user mode linux for this[20:49:40] *** LowKey has joined #postfix[20:49:59] <AstralStorm> (can't use anythin better)[20:55:20] *** weedar has quit IRC[20:59:30] <MatBoy> mhh, does a aliasses file work with a mysql backend ?[21:00:29] <uqlev> MatBoy, virtual_aliases?[21:00:50] <MatBoy> uqlev: I need it for piping[21:00:57] <MatBoy> ... so no virtual I guess[21:07:01] <Aprogas> MatBoy: Have you pastebinned your configs and logs yet?[21:07:12] <MatBoy> Aprogas: you don't needs the configs for it, it's just a simple mysql based MTA[21:07:31] <MatBoy> I wonder if you can use also an aliasses file when you have it MySQL based[21:07:44] <Aprogas> Yes, we already told you that it is possible.[21:08:03] <Aprogas> It is also possible to pipe to a command, but only if delivery is handled by local(8)[21:10:15] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[21:12:23] <MatBoy> Aprogas: true, but not from the DB, that is what I wanted to know :)[21:15:26] *** [Sergiu] is now known as [sergiu][21:15:50] <Aprogas> I think if you make your alias_maps query mysql, and that returns |/some/command that local(8) will happily pipe to it.[21:16:06] <Aprogas> You probably just did it wrong, hence our request for logs and configs.[21:19:30] <MatBoy> Aprogas: it seems it did, but I need to recheck it[21:20:04] <rob0> AstralStorm: "it should be possible to run it as user ..." right. However the code has never been submitted, and Wietse focuses on portable code, rather than Linux-only code.[21:20:44] <rob0> You'll either have to patch Postfix, or choose another MTA, or give up.[21:20:50] <AstralStorm> hmm, those are technically POSIX 1003.e capabilities[21:20:55] <AstralStorm> but that was a draft[21:21:10] <AstralStorm> I might write a patch for this, yes[21:21:19] <AstralStorm> or at least for some option to bypass the UID 0 check[21:21:26] <rob0> sure, send it to the mailing list.[21:22:25] <MatBoy> Aprogas: does not seems to be so easy with mysql as backend[21:22:46] <Aprogas> !tell MatBoy postmapq[21:22:47] <knoba> MatBoy: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf you may check this mapping by running postmap -q example.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf and see if it works.[21:26:53] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[21:42:42] <MatBoy> woei pipe works ![21:52:56] *** zunix has quit IRC[21:53:48] *** spq` has quit IRC[21:54:26] *** GNU\colossus has quit IRC[22:01:48] *** spq` has joined #postfix[22:02:35] *** GNU\colossus has joined #postfix[22:03:04] *** jense_ has joined #postfix[22:05:30] *** jabbadoo__ has joined #postfix[22:05:31] *** swarog_ has joined #postfix[22:07:26] *** tibyke_ has joined #postfix[22:09:31] *** maix` has joined #postfix[22:09:46] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix[22:10:04] *** uqlev has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** pa has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** sphenxes has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** jense has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** hooch has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** maix has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** Meskalyn-Freenod has quit IRC[22:10:04] *** tibyke has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** swarog has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** raw_ has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** reisi has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** jabbadoo1_ has quit IRC[22:12:44] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[22:15:58] *** zunix has joined #postfix[22:16:09] *** raw_ has joined #postfix[22:16:16] *** sphenxes has joined #postfix[22:16:27] *** Meskalyn-Freenod has joined #postfix[22:16:59] *** pa has joined #postfix[22:17:19] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[22:17:29] *** smica has joined #postfix[22:19:37] *** karlgus has quit IRC[22:37:33] *** jduggan has quit IRC[22:40:48] *** uqlev has quit IRC[22:46:35] *** youngdev has joined #postfix[22:47:02] *** youngdev has quit IRC[23:11:56] *** yosafbridge has joined #postfix[23:12:08] <Aprogas> I am quite satisfied with postfwd, spamassassin hasn't caught spam since, nor have I gotten false negatives.[23:15:21] *** maix` is now known as maix[23:26:22] <standon> Aprogas: i love postfwd![23:26:50] <standon> Aprogas: postpals, too.[23:27:59] <Aprogas> Is that some sort of auto-whitelisting based on outgoing mail?[23:34:42] *** ironm has joined #postfix[23:35:48] <ironm> Good evening - I have changed aliases in /etc/postfix/virtual .. how can I recreate the virtual.db? - tnx in advance for a short hint ;)[23:35:52] <standon> Aprogas: indeed. http://mailfud.org/postpals/[23:36:15] <standon> ironm: postmap, perhaps? that's a wild guess given the incomplete nature of your question.[23:36:44] <standon> ironm: that is to say, 'postmap /etc/postfix/virtual'.[23:37:14] <Aprogas> !tell ironm postmap[23:37:15] <knoba> ironm: "postmap" : a command to 'compile' text files to hash databases. Example: a file transport will be converted to transport.db by running 'postmap transport'. Your main.cf will contain something like transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport (without the '.db')[23:37:18] <ironm> thank a lot standon :) .. I have forgot it ... did it wo months ago[23:37:24] <ironm> two[23:37:48] <ironm> tnx Aprogas :) .. I will try it[23:49:25] <ironm> it works ... thank you very much standon and Aprogas :)[23:49:32] *** loddafnir has joined #postfix[23:49:48] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[23:51:29] *** rcsu has quit IRC[23:52:14] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[23:53:56] *** cga has quit IRC[23:54:50] *** smica has quit IRC