August 27, 2009 
< | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | >
August 27, 2009 [00:09:31] *** TomHome has quit IRC[00:10:52] *** gpled has left #postfix[00:13:15] *** wdp has quit IRC[00:19:13] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[00:24:12] *** mun24 has quit IRC[00:34:28] *** aantix has quit IRC[00:36:13] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[00:38:43] *** Yermandu has joined #postfix[00:40:56] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[00:46:28] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[01:00:18] *** diqpib has quit IRC[01:06:14] *** pingouin has quit IRC[01:07:31] *** ricdanger has joined #postfix[01:07:33] <ricdanger> hi there[01:07:46] <ricdanger> I'm ahaving the most strange problem[01:08:52] <ricdanger> I can receive email from most of the servcies worldwide (gmail, hotmail, yahoo, you name it)[01:09:02] <ricdanger> but for some strange reason, emails from netapp and vmware are not received[01:10:28] <lunaphyte> !welcome[01:10:29] <knoba> lunaphyte: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[01:11:11] *** F6F has quit IRC[01:11:13] <standon> !tell ricdanger welcome[01:11:22] <standon> shame, that one made sense.[01:11:32] <ricdanger> thank you[01:11:36] <ricdanger> :D[01:12:24] <ricdanger> but I don't undestand? do you think my question is unaproppriate?[01:13:29] <adaptr> it's vague and unhelpful[01:14:12] <adaptr> hence the welcome[01:14:40] *** will_ has quit IRC[01:14:43] <ricdanger> ok. the thing is: I can receive emaail from most of the email relays in the world, but for some reason I can't receive emails from some relays. I was just wondering if someone can have any idea what can be the problem, other then theirs relays being broken[01:14:53] <lunaphyte> !welcome[01:14:53] <knoba> lunaphyte: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[01:15:01] <ricdanger> do you know any thing that blocks "senders"? like, some rbl?[01:15:04] <ricdanger> sorry[01:15:09] <ricdanger> block "destinations"[01:15:49] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[01:15:55] <adaptr> I fear the message isn't coming through - something must be blocking our destinations[01:15:59] <standon> lol[01:16:21] <ricdanger> I know that this looks like a fun thing[01:16:28] <ricdanger> but they are respected companies[01:16:28] <lunaphyte> do you know any ways to make pizza?[01:16:37] <adaptr> ricdanger: you need to spend some time investigating how email systems work, and why specific things work in specific ways[01:16:37] <ricdanger> I can receive emails from most of the relays in the world[01:16:47] <ricdanger> I know how email systems work[01:16:47] <adaptr> ricdanger: you don't receive mail from relays[01:16:52] <adaptr> I beg to differ[01:16:55] <ricdanger> they don't even connect[01:16:55] <standon> ricdanger: i have to go, but some parting words; READ THE TOPIC. you have already been directed to the documentation. show effort in trying to read documentations and solve the problem yourself, and THEN provide concise and helpful information regarding your problem (postconf -n, relevant log excerpts, et freaking cetera) so people here can volunteer to help you without wasting too much of their time.[01:17:09] <ricdanger> I have all my MX correct[01:17:19] <ricdanger> all my relays have correct PTR[01:17:22] <ricdanger> no firewall rules[01:17:25] <ricdanger> no BGP problems[01:17:34] <adaptr> please, go on ignoring everybody[01:17:41] <ricdanger> I'm sorry[01:17:46] <adaptr> BGP ?!? WHAT the FUCk do YOU think you know ?[01:17:55] <ricdanger> wtf[01:18:09] <adaptr> I'm so going to bash.org this one[01:18:09] <ricdanger> I'm saying that I'm not on a blacklist or something[01:18:15] <ricdanger> I have connectivity[01:18:15] <adaptr> no you're not[01:18:24] <adaptr> you're not sayig much of any use so far[01:18:34] <adaptr> a fact you seem determined to ignore[01:18:41] <ricdanger> adaptr: maybe I didn't express myself well[01:18:49] <adaptr> if only that was the problem[01:19:02] <adaptr> perhaps you need to stop talking and start reading[01:19:07] <ricdanger> just to be sure: I can't think of any reason why this is happening except for some shit happening at their relays[01:19:07] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[01:19:20] <ricdanger> I have correct MX, correct SPF, correct DNS, and so on[01:19:23] <adaptr> ricdanger: to be sure, we really couldn't care less[01:19:26] <adaptr> JESUS[01:19:30] <adaptr> I don't believe this[01:19:41] <adaptr> can somebody kick this idiot ?[01:19:52] <ricdanger> adaptr: why is this so silly?[01:19:53] <lunaphyte> why are you putting so much effort into insisting that nothing is wrong, but telling us things aren't working the way you'd like?[01:20:09] <lunaphyte> it seems quite counterproductive.[01:20:09] <ricdanger> lunaphyte: I was just wondering that maybe you should give me some hint[01:20:11] <ricdanger> just that[01:20:14] <adaptr> ricdanger: silly ? you need to get a major clue update to make me call you silly - you're a moron[01:20:15] <ricdanger> I don't know everything[01:20:28] *** ltriant has joined #postfix[01:20:29] <adaptr> at this point, you know absolutely nothing[01:20:31] <lunaphyte> i practically slapped you in the face with a hint.[01:20:32] <adaptr> trust me on this one[01:20:33] <ricdanger> so I thought: maybe the guys on #postfix can give me some hint[01:20:49] <adaptr> lunaphyte: I wish you just slapped him in the face[01:21:03] <lunaphyte> there are no "hints", dude. there is figuring out what is broken, understanding it, and fixing it.[01:21:04] <ricdanger> I'mm sorry: you said I should put some logs[01:21:20] <ricdanger> my problem is that I don't have logs, because the relays don't even connect[01:21:32] <ricdanger> so, if I have connectivity and correct MX and DNS conf[01:21:41] *** Woosta has joined #postfix[01:21:43] <adaptr> you do not "have connectivity"[01:21:47] <lunaphyte> what is the destination domain in question?[01:21:57] <adaptr> or clue[01:22:47] *** g8tor has joined #postfix[01:22:52] <g8tor> hello all[01:23:10] <adaptr> lunaphyte: suspicious silence all of a sudden[01:23:45] *** s0ber_ has quit IRC[01:24:08] * rob0 breaks the silence[01:24:14] <adaptr> nooes[01:24:26] * adaptr jerks out of his S&G reverie[01:25:53] <lunaphyte> #dns had an odd fellow earlier. he was bitching about registrars and wanted to find a registrar that would "just leave him and his domain alone and not mess around with it". turns out his registrar was getting "bogus abuse complaints" about his domain, and he wanted a registrar that would just ignore the complaints.[01:26:03] <rob0> Sullivan & Gilbert? Simon & Garfunkel?[01:26:03] <adaptr> hahaha[01:26:15] <KB1JWQ> lunaphyte: Gorgeous![01:26:15] <adaptr> rob0: sound of silence ? c'mon you ARE that old,...[01:26:22] <lunaphyte> nice, eh?[01:26:41] <adaptr> rob0: if it was G&S you would have heard me laughing[01:26:41] <lunaphyte> smith and gordon, i'm certain.[01:26:54] <rob0> Hello darkness my old friend ...[01:27:11] * lunaphyte knocks rob0's lights out.[01:27:17] <adaptr> you see ? I didn't even know that[01:27:45] <rob0> Cecelia! You're breaking my heart! You're shaking my confidence daily.[01:28:05] <rob0> (I can still sing in the dark! In fact I get louder!)[01:28:11] *** s0ber has joined #postfix[01:28:11] <adaptr> lost me on that one[01:28:41] <g8tor> I have a linux box at work that I would like to be able to send mail from. Our firewall does not allow for me to send mail out so I must use exchange is there some way for me to forward mail from my local postfic to the exchange server so that mail from my cron jobs will be sent through exchange?[01:28:49] <lunaphyte> is that a coping mechanism for nyctophobia?[01:29:07] <adaptr> !tell g8tor about relayhost[01:29:07] <knoba> adaptr: Error: No factoid matches that key.[01:29:18] <lunaphyte> about?[01:29:20] <adaptr> whut ?[01:29:24] <adaptr> oh...[01:29:29] <lunaphyte> haha[01:29:31] <adaptr> damn bots[01:29:33] <rob0> s/about//[01:29:47] <g8tor> oos failed to mention I'm totally a newb at email setup[01:29:48] <adaptr> no, I;m not going to do it anymore, I would look silly[01:29:54] <adaptr> sigh[01:29:58] <adaptr> !tell g8tor relayhost[01:29:59] <rob0> !basic[01:30:01] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[01:30:01] <lunaphyte> !tell adaptr relayhost[01:30:07] <adaptr> yeah, thanks[01:30:11] <lunaphyte> :p[01:30:14] <lunaphyte> j/k[01:30:18] <adaptr> I was dying to know that[01:30:42] <lunaphyte> oh, this is a good one: hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia[01:31:27] <lunaphyte> i wonder what's worse - that or triskaidekaphobia[01:31:47] <adaptr> where did you get that ?[01:32:00] <lunaphyte> wikipedia, of course! :)[01:32:23] <adaptr> you have too much free time[01:32:26] <rob0> hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.com. 14400 IN MX 0 hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.com.[01:32:36] <adaptr> no way[01:32:42] <rob0> way[01:32:42] <lunaphyte> my repository of sanctity for all things worth believing.[01:32:46] <lunaphyte> gfto[01:32:52] <rob0> gtfi[01:33:01] <lunaphyte> nfwtii[01:33:14] <rob0> Nintendo to you too[01:34:02] <adaptr> I see a little silhouette of a man[01:34:15] <lunaphyte> Agraphobia (also contreltophobia) is the abnormal fear of sexual abuse.[01:34:27] <adaptr> Scaramouche! Scaramouche! will you do the fandango ?[01:34:48] <lunaphyte> anyone else need esoteric nonsense copied and pasted from wikipedia?[01:34:53] <adaptr> thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightning-leeee[01:35:34] <adaptr> lunaphyte: there is abnormal fear of sexual abuse ? it'd have to be pretty friggin bizarrely obsessive, then[01:35:46] <adaptr> pretty much any fear of sexual abuse will be quite normal[01:36:20] <adaptr> not unlike fear of being run over by a bus WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF ONE[01:36:33] <adaptr> look that one up ;)[01:36:49] <rob0> What about fear of NOT being sexually abused?[01:37:00] <adaptr> now you're starying into kinkyland[01:37:03] <adaptr> *straying[01:37:14] <lunaphyte> that was my thought.[01:37:47] <rob0> Straying? I think I've lived there for years.[01:37:58] <adaptr> you're out ?[01:38:33] <rob0> traceroute me, I'm sure I'm still in kinkyland.[01:38:45] <cite> Not Kansas anymore?[01:40:10] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[01:40:43] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[01:40:50] <adaptr> I did... it loses track somewhere in the Sprawl[01:41:05] <cite> Snw Crash?[01:41:13] <adaptr> close[01:41:16] <adaptr> Gibson[01:41:20] <cite> Neuromancer?[01:41:24] <adaptr> and others[01:41:49] <adaptr> collectively called the "Sprawl novels" :)[01:42:19] <rob0> Toto, I think we're not in Kansas anymore.[01:42:39] <adaptr> quick, crush the stupid poodle between your heels and make clicking noises![01:42:40] <cite> I read those, but I think a lot of flair was "lost in translation".[01:42:44] <ricdanger> I'm sorry[01:42:47] <ricdanger> I had to leave[01:43:33] <adaptr> we're not sorry[01:43:38] <ricdanger> yep[01:43:39] <ricdanger> either way[01:43:54] * rob0 is sorry[01:44:04] <adaptr> as you should be - ponystealer![01:44:08] <rob0> Just check my rDNS, you'll see.[01:44:24] <lunaphyte> sorry, i'm not into that sort of thing.[01:44:30] <ricdanger> you are all making fun[01:44:35] <lunaphyte> i don't want to catch crabs.[01:44:37] <ricdanger> because you think I'm some kind of noob[01:44:44] <ricdanger> the thing is[01:44:48] <adaptr> yes, we are, and it's not even ... oh, you missed that[01:44:56] <ricdanger> I can not receive emails from this two relays[01:44:56] <KB1JWQ> adaptr: Toto was a cairn terrier. You ignorant slut.[01:44:58] <ricdanger> I wonder[01:45:07] <adaptr> KB1JWQ: they all look like poodles to me[01:45:20] <ricdanger> what can lead to a postfix not receivijng email from, this two hosts?[01:45:24] <ricdanger> they use remedy helpdesk[01:45:24] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Okay, I'm new to the party.[01:45:26] <cite> Actually, Toto kept harassing the healers.[01:45:26] <ricdanger> both[01:45:27] <KB1JWQ> What's your issue?[01:45:33] <adaptr> still asking the useless questions[01:45:39] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Many things. What do the logs say when mail is attempted?[01:45:40] <ricdanger> so, I was wondering what could generate this shit[01:45:46] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Language, please.[01:45:47] <lunaphyte> he still hasn't answered my most recent question.[01:45:51] <adaptr> nor do we need your language[01:45:51] <ricdanger> sorry[01:45:57] * KB1JWQ is easily offended[01:46:02] <adaptr> no you're not[01:46:07] <ricdanger> so, as far as I know, it is sufficient for me to have correct MX, correct A/CNAME for my MX[01:46:12] <ricdanger> and no blocking rules on 25[01:46:18] <lunaphyte> 23.21 lunaphyte: what is the destination domain in question?[01:46:20] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: AND THE LOGS SAY?[01:46:31] <ricdanger> KB1JWQ: they don't even show a connection[01:46:38] <rob0> !no_logs[01:46:39] <knoba> rob0: "no_logs" : Nothing in your Postfix logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question.[01:46:50] <ricdanger> sorry. I have psotfix logs[01:46:58] <ricdanger> so syslog is working[01:47:04] <rob0> No one can help you without real information. We have been trying to tell you this.[01:47:05] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Okay. This being done on the same network?[01:47:09] <lunaphyte> is this one of those people who has /nick blinders on, and can't follow a conversation unless *every* single statement is preceded by his name?[01:47:21] <ricdanger> rob0: I realized that, sorry[01:47:21] <KB1JWQ> lunaphyte: I'm one of those people.[01:47:31] <KB1JWQ> I'm also in 45 channels and twelve PMs.[01:47:34] <lunaphyte> KB1JWQ: bullsh*t[01:47:39] <lunaphyte> :)[01:47:44] <adaptr> lunaphyte: don't care, even if addressed he ignores anything that doesn't fit his.. whatever it is[01:47:51] <adaptr> here, let me show you[01:47:52] <cite> KB1JWQ: Well, if we wanted you to follow our conversation, we'd probably be on ham right now...[01:47:53] <ricdanger> is it possible for you to check my MX and mayvbe connect to one of my relays?[01:48:06] <KB1JWQ> Permit me to assist him. If he doeesn't cooperate we'll get rob0 to boot him. :-D[01:48:08] <adaptr> ricdanger: what is the domain you're sending to, and what is in the logs for these attempts[01:48:22] * rob0 permits KB1JWQ[01:48:25] <lunaphyte> i understood his domain to be the destination.[01:48:32] <ricdanger> yep[01:48:33] <adaptr> I no longer care[01:48:38] <ricdanger> that is correct[01:48:41] <lunaphyte> others can't send to him, but only in certain cases.[01:48:44] <ricdanger> I'm the destination[01:48:55] <rob0> check_KB1JWQ_access permit_auth_destination[01:49:00] <ricdanger> I'm sure my firewall isnt blocking[01:49:10] <lunaphyte> ricdanger: i'm gonna ask you this one last time (being the THIRD time), and then i'm done - what is the destination domain in question?[01:49:13] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Terrific! What's the domain? You may PM it to me if you'd prefer.[01:49:21] <ricdanger> ok[01:49:26] <rob0> domain.com[01:49:30] <cite> example.net[01:49:32] <adaptr> example.com[01:49:38] <lunaphyte> !smite rob0[01:49:39] <knoba> lunaphyte: Error: "smite" is not a valid command.[01:49:41] <KB1JWQ> amazingrapist.com-- oh wait, that's seekwill's.[01:49:44] <lunaphyte> GARRRH![01:49:52] <rob0> haha[01:49:56] <lunaphyte> rapekitandcrawlspace.com[01:49:56] <adaptr> willbuskforteenageboys.nu[01:50:00] *** keiserr has joined #postfix[01:50:08] <cite> WTF, guys...[01:50:12] <rob0> microsoft.com[01:50:16] <adaptr> if only[01:50:21] <ricdanger> com on guys[01:50:27] <ricdanger> I just want some help troubleshooting this[01:50:45] <rob0> I'm sure KB1JWQ is working on it. We can't.[01:50:51] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: You have two MXes for your domain. I can connect to both.[01:50:53] <adaptr> then start providing information, idiot![01:51:02] <lunaphyte> my crystal ball says cname.[01:51:09] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Did you recently change DNS settings for your domain?[01:51:12] <cite> KB1JWQ: Any signs of a PIX interfering?[01:51:19] <rob0> ahh, the smell of a fresh CNAME in the morning ...[01:51:24] <lunaphyte> oh, he told KB1JWQ, cool.[01:51:30] <ricdanger> rob0: I have a ASA[01:51:40] <adaptr> I would have echoed it in channel in a second[01:51:46] <KB1JWQ> It's not a CNAME.[01:51:57] <KB1JWQ> Both are A records.[01:51:59] <lunaphyte> darn! stupid crystal ball.[01:52:00] <KB1JWQ> So he's done that much correctly.[01:52:01] <rob0> Was it one of the domains we guessed?[01:52:14] <lunaphyte> oh, wait! this is a magic 8 ball, not a crystal ball.[01:52:15] <cite> ricdanger: Please PM your domain.[01:52:18] <KB1JWQ> Sending domains are vmware and netapp, we can probably assume they know wtf they'r edoing since I have accounts with both of them. :-)[01:52:30] <ricdanger> KB1JWQ: same thing I thought[01:52:49] <adaptr> KB1JWQ: PM me his domain[01:52:59] <ricdanger> btw, I changed something on my domain but not for this relays[01:53:04] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: What did you change?[01:53:06] <ricdanger> nothing mail related[01:53:13] <ricdanger> just had to replace my www address[01:53:14] <adaptr> again with the relays[01:53:18] <rob0> PM me the credit card details.[01:53:30] <adaptr> as if you would recognize one if it hit you in the NUTS[01:53:35] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: PM me the email address that netapp is attempting to send to.[01:53:37] <rob0> ouch![01:53:45] <adaptr> a relay, not a credit card[01:54:00] <ricdanger> KB1JWQ: I assume it is SUPPORT at netapp dot com[01:54:17] <rob0> I recognize a relay! I had one go bad in my refrigerator.[01:55:03] <rob0> Now the stupid thing is a semi-weather-resistant outdoor storage container. :([01:55:05] <ricdanger> maybe I'm missing something, but isn't "relay" a correct word for my MTA?[01:55:22] <ricdanger> (I'm really asking)[01:55:33] <adaptr> "MTA" is a correct word for your MTA[01:55:46] <adaptr> a relay is a function, not a system[01:55:58] <cite> Frontend MX. Mailgateway. Postamt.[01:56:00] <ricdanger> btw, as far as PIX/ASA goes, I'm not inspecting SMTP in it[01:56:20] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Not who it's FROM. Where it's going TO.[01:56:22] <ricdanger> cite: I call it a relay because I'm using my MX for both sides[01:56:34] <ricdanger> so it forwards emails from my internal email server[01:56:40] <ricdanger> an received email from the internet[01:56:42] <adaptr> gateway[01:56:55] <ricdanger> ok[01:56:58] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: Wait. Your issue-- is it that mail FROM netapp isn't getting to you, or mail TO netapp isn't getting there?[01:57:14] <ricdanger> yep[01:57:18] <adaptr> hahahahaha[01:57:24] <ricdanger> email from Netapp and VMware are not received[01:57:29] <ricdanger> go figure[01:57:36] <adaptr> THAT WAS NOT A YES QUESTION[01:58:05] <adaptr> his blinders go way beyond nicks[01:58:35] <ricdanger> KB1JWQ: from what you saw, the DNS conf is correct right?[01:58:37] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: All right, postconf -n to a pastebin please[01:58:49] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: It is, but if they've cached old results, no telling what could be the issue.[01:59:36] <ricdanger> never changed my MX addresses[01:59:47] <ricdanger> and the lifetime is 3 days[02:00:09] <KB1JWQ> ricdanger: So yet again, postconf -n to a pastebin-- for the box that's your mx target[02:00:17] <ricdanger> k[02:00:29] <ricdanger> btw, this is a stripped down conf that I'm now using for debug[02:02:31] *** selven__ has quit IRC[02:02:46] <cite> KB1JWQ: How can his logs be of any relevance if he says he doesn't see any incoming connections?[02:03:30] <rob0> The domain works, gets mail from other sources just fine?[02:03:31] <adaptr> cite: since when are people reliable witnesses ?[02:03:55] *** MasterOne has quit IRC[02:03:56] <cite> adaptr: I rest my case.[02:04:04] <ricdanger> http://pastebin.com/m3a28ac39[02:04:27] <rob0> Who was that masked.com?[02:04:40] <ricdanger> not my domain for sure ;)[02:04:44] <ricdanger> I just masked it[02:04:54] <ricdanger> you don't take me serious :S[02:05:04] <adaptr> no shit, Sherlock[02:05:06] <rob0> How could I?[02:05:34] <cite> ricdanger: You are missing the proxy_interfaces configuration.[02:05:45] <rob0> And yet ... I'm going to make a Wild-Assed Guess (WAG)[02:06:12] <rob0> Did the address given to Netapp and VMware contain a "+"?[02:06:18] <ricdanger> cite: all my MX have public addresses[02:06:30] <ricdanger> rob0: no. it has a dot[02:07:44] <ricdanger> btw, the config is now very plaing given that I used ASSP. I now dropped ASSP and make the config as simple as possible to try to debug the issue[02:07:51] <ricdanger> *very plain[02:08:09] <adaptr> of course, we all use ASSP[02:08:12] <adaptr> say no more[02:08:20] <adaptr> seriously, say no more[02:08:23] <rob0> Then all you can do, it would seem, is call them and ask why you're not getting their mails.[02:08:38] <ricdanger> adaptr: don't you like ASSP?[02:08:49] <ricdanger> I used mailscanner in the past, and ASSP worked alot better for me[02:09:07] <adaptr> I don't know what it is; it has nothing to do with postfix, I know that - as so many things you have been talking about have nothing to do with postfix[02:09:13] <ricdanger> rob0: I will do that. I can only assume the problem is somewhere on their mail servers.[02:09:24] <KB1JWQ> I've used ASSP. It's garbage, objectively speaking.[02:09:31] <KB1JWQ> Written like a drunken monkey wrote it. :-)[02:09:41] <cite> What's ASSP?[02:09:44] * adaptr wonders quietly how ricdanger can say that he is not getting mails when he is not getting mails[02:09:54] <adaptr> how do you KNOW[02:09:56] <cite> nvm[02:10:04] <ricdanger> adaptr: I know I'm missing emails because I received them on gmail, with a proper "to" filed[02:10:06] <ricdanger> field[02:10:11] <ricdanger> (gmail was cc)[02:10:29] <ricdanger> they also show on their support tools[02:10:31] <adaptr> so forward one of those[02:11:32] <ricdanger> received it fine[02:12:13] <ricdanger> btw, their mail server is mailhost2.vmware.com[02:12:24] <adaptr> ONE of them, obviously[02:12:43] <cite> Probably the fourth one.[02:12:47] <adaptr> +1[02:12:54] <ricdanger> ups, sorry: smtp-outbound-2.vmware.com[02:13:04] <ricdanger> adaptr: the one that sent the email[02:13:09] <adaptr> shit yes, why be accurate when bullshit is so much more fun[02:13:17] <ricdanger> ehehe[02:13:18] <cite> ricdanger: And you are still not getting their mails, after removing ASSP?[02:13:26] <ricdanger> yep[02:13:55] <ricdanger> I guess I will contact them[02:14:15] <adaptr> I guess you could have done that the first time[02:14:18] <ricdanger> I couldn't see any objective reason for not getting the email[02:14:25] <ricdanger> and I saw that you didn't as well[02:14:42] <ricdanger> KB1JWQ was very helpfull debuging my DNS[02:14:49] <cite> adaptr: Be careful, that's reverse psychology.[02:14:57] <adaptr> we had NO INFORMATION to make any kind of reasonable judgement[02:15:04] <adaptr> stop selling bullshit, I'm not having any[02:15:08] <cite> There, see, you fell for it![02:15:13] <adaptr> and if DNS was a problem, then postfix was not[02:15:27] <rob0> That was very kind of KB1JWQ ... and a bit over the top, perhaps ... in allowing you to PM that.[02:15:27] <ricdanger> I could contact them[02:15:34] <ricdanger> but given that I was on IRC[02:15:46] <ricdanger> I thought: why not ask the guys on #postifx[02:16:03] <adaptr> nooo-oo, you definitely did not think that[02:16:08] <ricdanger> I generally ask a lot of questions on lots of channels, so I thought you would help me as well[02:16:21] <adaptr> wow, your reasoning is flawless![02:16:31] <adaptr> but then, we had ample evidence before now[02:17:41] <adaptr> cite: I'm falling, falling for it - she seems to have an invisible touch yeh![02:18:53] <rob0> afk a bit[02:18:59] <rob0> Good night, cite.[02:19:07] <cite> n8 rob0[02:19:47] *** plugwash has quit IRC[02:20:31] *** Laibsch has left #postfix[02:20:45] <cite> .o0(I seriously wonder if citing Alicia Keys in response to Genesis rectifies a permaban.)[02:21:05] <adaptr> what did I miss ?[02:21:19] <cite> I don't understand the question.[02:21:21] *** Xzisted has quit IRC[02:23:22] <cite> Well, 2:30 am. Good night everyone.[02:23:42] <adaptr> your clocks run very fast[02:23:46] *** deltaray has joined #postfix[02:23:57] <cite> adaptr: They just had a head start :)[02:24:22] <adaptr> that's what "fast" means, you non-English-speaking-person[02:28:22] <deltaray> Is there some way of removing a specific recipient from a message in the queue. Like if I have a message in the queue addressed to recipients A, B and C. How can I remove just recipient B without removing the message from the queue?[02:28:38] <deltaray> Or is that not possible.[02:28:39] *** bturnbull has joined #postfix[02:28:59] *** bturnbull has quit IRC[02:29:03] *** bturnbull has joined #postfix[02:29:55] *** bturnbull has quit IRC[02:45:46] *** glitch has quit IRC[02:46:15] *** Ruperto has quit IRC[02:47:06] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[02:51:38] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:53:30] *** Yermandu has quit IRC[02:53:46] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[03:04:52] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[03:05:32] *** andrewfree has quit IRC[03:07:39] *** Yermandu has joined #postfix[03:09:09] *** GoGi has quit IRC[03:09:16] *** flourish has left #postfix[03:26:44] *** jimmygoon has joined #postfix[03:33:12] *** rolfkatt has quit IRC[03:41:50] *** Zblakany has quit IRC[03:49:48] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[03:49:52] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[03:54:52] *** Yermandu is now known as Yermandu_[04:07:16] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[04:10:36] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[04:12:58] *** rolfkatt has joined #postfix[04:13:43] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[04:23:29] *** Ugly_Duck has quit IRC[04:31:05] *** Woosta has quit IRC[04:42:34] *** nb_ has quit IRC[04:46:11] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[04:51:21] *** Vince42 has quit IRC[04:59:28] *** deltaray has quit IRC[05:06:41] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[05:15:25] *** CMA has joined #postfix[05:16:16] *** rolfkatt has quit IRC[05:19:07] *** Guest39788 has joined #postfix[05:19:31] *** Guest39788 is now known as Internat[05:20:34] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[05:22:04] *** p3rror has quit IRC[05:31:44] *** jimmygoon has quit IRC[05:31:50] *** jimmygoon has joined #postfix[05:31:54] *** jimmygoon has quit IRC[05:33:53] *** jens_ has joined #postfix[05:42:10] *** jense has quit IRC[05:56:57] *** kerneld has quit IRC[06:04:32] *** hparker has quit IRC[06:13:21] *** g8tor has left #postfix[06:18:15] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[06:49:10] *** CMA has quit IRC[06:54:47] *** Alagar has joined #postfix[06:57:27] *** fabounio has joined #postfix[07:04:58] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[07:17:47] *** cpbills_ has quit IRC[07:19:03] *** cpbills has joined #postfix[07:19:37] <xerophyte> i use postfix with ldap and qmail schema .. how can i specify aliease pipe i need to setup a helpdesk email queue just wondering if the schema or postfix support the pipe inside the ldap entry[07:21:39] <dragonheart> if a '| helpdeskprogram' is returned by the ldap query I can't imagine why not[07:23:52] *** keiserr has quit IRC[07:26:40] <xerophyte> hmm so i need to just put the command in the mailAlternateAddress[07:26:47] <xerophyte> will that thwork[07:28:05] *** ltriant has left #postfix[07:31:06] *** [mu]keiserr has joined #postfix[07:34:24] *** digitalmortician has joined #postfix[07:38:45] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[07:44:02] *** fabounio has quit IRC[07:59:11] *** Niemi has joined #postfix[08:06:35] *** keiserr has joined #postfix[08:12:39] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:13:13] *** denis has joined #postfix[08:15:08] *** aixenv has quit IRC[08:20:47] *** keiserr is now known as [mu[keiserr[08:21:18] *** rolfkatt has joined #postfix[08:27:14] *** [mu]keiserr has quit IRC[08:35:38] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[08:37:39] *** hever has joined #postfix[08:37:58] *** RG3rY has joined #postfix[08:38:03] <RG3rY> hi[08:39:03] *** sophokles has joined #postfix[08:39:26] <RG3rY> we use postfix for mta.some cases postfix cant send the mail, because invalid fqdn error message,and put the computer name in the domain part[08:39:33] <RG3rY> how can i fix that ?[08:40:25] *** [mu[keiserr is now known as [mu]keiserr[08:44:36] *** vivek has joined #postfix[08:51:55] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[08:55:18] *** pinoyskull- has joined #postfix[08:55:41] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[08:56:20] *** rolfkatt has quit IRC[08:57:52] *** F6F has joined #postfix[09:00:47] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:02:43] *** polaru has joined #postfix[09:03:29] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:06:09] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:10:34] *** [mu]keiserr has quit IRC[09:11:09] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[09:12:14] *** AzMoo has joined #postfix[09:13:51] <AzMoo> Hi guys. I'm sending some emails from PHP using postfix, and a bunch of headers are being attached somewhere when I do it. If I send from the command line these headers aren't added, but there's nothing in the PHP code or configuration to add them. Any ideas where I could look to find them?[09:15:55] *** vivek has quit IRC[09:17:26] *** vivek has joined #postfix[09:17:40] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:22:41] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[09:24:13] *** miconof has joined #postfix[09:26:15] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:28:13] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[09:28:33] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[09:34:06] *** AzMoo has quit IRC[09:35:04] *** soa2ii has joined #postfix[09:37:09] <soa2ii> Hi. ATM I have postfix + dovecot running. Now I want to use dovecots deliver as a LDA so I can use sieve scripts on my server. Postfix maps mail adresses to local users with the alias.db an then delivers mails to /home/user/Mailbox ... if I use deliver now... where does it get the correct destination from?[09:43:56] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[09:44:57] *** pinoyskull- has quit IRC[09:45:51] *** pinoyskull- has joined #postfix[09:50:58] *** RedShift has joined #postfix[09:51:23] <RedShift> how can I say, when postfix is sending e-mail, for a specific sender, to relay it through a certain server instead of itself, without looking up aliases[09:51:47] <RedShift> I have this really complex situation where one e-mail domain is hosted on two e-mail servers[09:52:06] <RedShift> so what I did to make certain e-mail go to the second server, is create aliasses on the first server[09:52:19] <RedShift> like, info at example dot com -> info at server2 dot example.com[09:52:35] <RedShift> then the second server aliases info at server2 dot example.com back to info at example dot com[09:53:06] <RedShift> now there's a problem, when e-mail is being sent from server2, it will see that it has example.com locally hosted, and try to send e-mail there[09:53:30] <RedShift> but while server1 has invoicing at example dot com, server2 doesn't[09:53:54] <RedShift> so server2 will reject the e-mail, making the people using server2 unable to e-mail their collegues[09:54:37] <RedShift> any suggestions how to "fix" this?[09:55:28] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[09:56:31] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:58:44] *** Robbie_ has joined #postfix[10:01:06] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[10:04:11] *** bhagat has quit IRC[10:06:01] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[10:06:27] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[10:12:23] *** Pazzo has joined #postfix[10:21:41] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[10:25:12] *** plugwash has joined #postfix[10:26:09] *** higuita has quit IRC[10:26:48] *** higuita has joined #postfix[10:29:26] *** wdp has joined #postfix[10:33:04] *** F6F has quit IRC[10:33:19] *** andrewfree has joined #postfix[10:36:52] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:38:36] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:42:23] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:43:12] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:46:09] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[11:02:44] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[11:07:33] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:10:26] *** soa2ii has left #postfix[11:12:54] *** sepski has joined #postfix[11:28:17] *** sejo has quit IRC[11:28:30] *** sejo has joined #postfix[11:39:01] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:41:10] *** Niemi has quit IRC[11:41:39] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[11:42:14] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[11:42:56] *** pinoyskull- has quit IRC[11:43:14] *** pinoyskull- has joined #postfix[11:43:29] *** vivek has quit IRC[11:50:39] *** scylla has joined #postfix[11:52:32] *** vblando__ has joined #postfix[11:52:42] *** vblando__ is now known as pinoyskull[11:52:48] *** pinoyskull is now known as pinoyskull--[11:53:01] *** andrewfree has quit IRC[11:55:27] *** pinoyskull-- is now known as pinoyskull[12:01:54] *** pinoyskull- has quit IRC[12:21:10] *** fronix has joined #postfix[12:24:08] *** mcepl has joined #postfix[12:24:46] *** mcepl has quit IRC[12:28:55] *** cilly has quit IRC[12:29:14] *** cilly has joined #postfix[12:30:03] *** sharjeel has joined #postfix[12:31:17] <sharjeel> I am setting up a postfix for only outbound messages (Would be sending newslterrers, lost passwords etc). The incoming mail server is separetly configured with different MX entries. Any quick and simple config for setting up such an outbound srv using postfix?[12:35:15] <shasta> sharjeel, http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client[12:37:35] *** fabounio has joined #postfix[12:39:13] *** fronix_ has joined #postfix[12:40:25] *** higuita has quit IRC[12:41:02] *** higuita has joined #postfix[12:43:11] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:43:41] <sharjeel> shasta, if a null client doesn't receive any mail, why does it use POP or IMAP to access?[12:50:08] *** fronixo has joined #postfix[12:50:43] <cite> knoba: Ok, it's just you and me know, so c'mon.[12:50:46] <cite> !fcrdns[12:50:46] <knoba> cite: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : $myhostname should resolve to your IP address, which in turn should resolve to $myhostname. This is very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost .[12:50:54] <cite> Thanks.[12:52:22] *** mcepl has joined #postfix[12:53:38] *** fronix_ has quit IRC[12:53:53] *** wdp has quit IRC[12:53:55] *** mcepl has quit IRC[12:55:20] *** fronix has quit IRC[12:57:21] *** cilly has quit IRC[12:59:05] <fronixo> ok im confused lets say i have my own domain that i want to use on my postfix server. Ive made a subdomain pointing to the postfix server (mail.domain.com), but how do i know the postfix server is using that so it will be @domain.com in the users email adress?[13:00:11] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[13:00:44] <cite> fronixo: The MX records for domain.com need to point to your Postfix server. @domain.com must be an accepted domain in you server, i.e. it must be in mydestination, virtual_alias_domains, virtual_mailbox_maps or relay_domains.[13:01:34] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[13:02:07] <sharjeel> Im getting a "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local entries table" error. I don't want to enforce any such limit, would like to send to any local address ... how do i do that?[13:03:17] <cite> sharjeel: If you set "local_recipient_maps=" in main.cf, recipient validation will not be performed. Any non-existiant addresses will generate a bounce message.[13:03:18] *** Wooga has joined #postfix[13:03:38] <Wooga> how do i add new aliases for mail delevery?[13:03:45] <cite> sharjeel: If you wnt to avoid that, specify an appropriate luser_relay.[13:04:32] <Wooga> i tried to add string 'testalias: user' to the /etc/aliases file, but 'mailx testalias' still returning message back[13:04:40] <cite> Wooga: Please refer to http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#virtual_alias and and http://www.postfix.org/aliases.5.html[13:04:57] <Wooga> thanks[13:04:58] <cite> Wooga: Also, don't forget to execute "newaliases" after editing /etc/aliases.[13:05:43] <sharjeel> why documentation has to be so compleX? :([13:05:43] *** fabounio has quit IRC[13:05:57] <cite> sharjeel: Postfix documentation is amongst the finest in any OSS project I know.[13:06:16] <cite> !basic[13:06:16] <knoba> cite: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[13:06:20] <sharjeel> cite, i take my words back ... why configuration has to be so complex that you feel you should hack your own server :([13:06:39] <Wooga> oh, executing newaliases is what i messed; after this all working[13:06:44] <Wooga> thanks![13:06:50] <cite> Postfix will run with as little as one(!) line in main.cf. That's not complex.[13:07:44] *** fabounio has joined #postfix[13:09:00] <sharjeel> i wish i could figure that one line out :P[13:10:28] *** wdp has joined #postfix[13:11:18] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[13:12:15] <cite> !tell sharjeel unknown_local[13:15:17] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[13:21:03] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[13:24:23] *** ricdanger has left #postfix[13:24:41] <sharjeel> site, if i wanna allow anyone to send & receive ... what should i put in local_recipient_maps?[13:25:17] <sharjeel> cite, if i wanna allow anyone to send & receive ... what should i put in local_recipient_maps?[13:25:19] <cite> !tell sharjeel vague[13:26:07] <sharjeel> :([13:26:08] <cite> !tell sharjeel relay_denied[13:26:22] <sharjeel> :'([13:26:28] <cite> !tell sharjeel sasl[13:26:46] <sharjeel> :~([13:27:30] <cite> If you don't modify _anything_ in a stock Postfix configuration, it will accept mail's for "mydestination" and try to deliver them to local Unix users.[13:27:40] <cite> I really don't understand what problem you are trying to solve.[13:27:45] *** fronixo has quit IRC[13:28:24] <cite> !tell sharjeel basic[13:28:26] <sharjeel> cite, i am getting " Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table" ... i would like the mail server to accept any address at my localdomain[13:28:57] <sharjeel> thats why i wanted to know what to put in local_recipients_map[13:29:02] <cite> sharjeel: I told you - set an empty local_recipient_maps (postconf -e 'local_recipient_maps=') and an appropriate luser_relay.[13:30:01] <sharjeel> lemme try again[13:30:42] <sharjeel> what is luser_relay (tried google but can't figure out from results)[13:30:52] <cite> !luser_relay[13:30:52] <knoba> cite: "luser_relay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional catch-all destination for unknown local(8) recipients. By default, mail for unknown recipients in domains that match $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces is returned as undeliverable.[13:31:23] *** chrisq has quit IRC[13:31:24] <cite> sharjeel: psotconf -e luser_relay=cite at incertum dot net will redirect all mail for unknown local recipients to cite at incertum dot net.[13:31:36] <cite> sharjeel: This together with an emtpy local_recipient_maps entry does exactly what you wna.[13:31:39] <cite> want*[13:32:16] <sharjeel> but i dont have anything such as "unknown recipients" :~( all i want is let my postfix dispatch whatever i sent ... i have my incoming mail hosted with gmail[13:33:34] <sharjeel> forget it[13:33:44] * sharjeel opens his IDE to write a simple mail server[13:34:08] <Wooga> hello, why even having 'smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords = silent-discard, dsn' option in my main.cf config, i still getting 'Undelivered Mail Returned to sender' messages?[13:34:22] <Wooga> how do i completely disable them?[13:35:48] <cite> sharjeel: You are getting: "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table"[13:36:06] <cite> sharjeel: That _is_ an "unknown recipient".[13:37:01] <cite> sharjeel: If you want me to help you any further, show output of "postconf -n" and a log excerpt which shows the mail delivery attempt which failed.[13:37:23] <cite> Wooga: "DSN" is an ESMTP extension. It has nothing to do with suppressing bounce messages.[13:37:36] <cite> Wooga: You cannot suppress bounce messages. What problem are you triying to solve?[13:38:26] <Wooga> i am writing my web application with password restoring feature for accounts and i don't want to get such messages when some of my users gived wrong e-mail address[13:39:47] <Wooga> since among this useless trash may be some important system notifications[13:39:50] <sharjeel> cite, http://dpaste.com/86029/[13:41:15] <Wooga> so, isn't there any source patches burning this thing out for it at least?[13:41:21] <sharjeel> cite, http://dpaste.com/86031/[13:41:37] <Wooga> if i can't disable it with configuration files[13:43:47] *** theblackerbox has joined #postfix[13:44:53] *** chrisq has joined #postfix[13:47:04] <cite> sharjeel: Is there a Unix user called "sharjeel"?[13:47:50] <cite> Wooga: May I suggest a different way to solve this problem - wit hadditional benefits for your application?[13:47:59] <sharjeel> cite, no there isn't ... i expect the mail be routed (by looking up from MX entry) to google apps which does have a user called "sharjeel"[13:48:50] <cite> sharjeel: I see. You need to remove "seenreport.com" from "mydestination" in teh first step.[13:49:35] <cite> sharjeel: After that, you need to get Postfix to relay you message. If you are contacting that server from an internal network, add the internal network to "mynetworks."[13:49:41] <Wooga> of course, if this it is really a way to do things right[13:49:41] *** hparker has joined #postfix[13:50:02] <cite> Wooga: In your application, are you able to set the _sender_ address of those notofications?[13:50:05] <cite> notifications*[13:50:44] *** Twinkletoes|W has joined #postfix[13:50:47] <Wooga> cite: yes[13:51:03] <Wooga> should i use trash address for this?[13:51:19] *** war9407 has quit IRC[13:51:43] <sharjeel> cite, mynetworks has 127.0.0.1 ... and i am using it only from localhost ... is that ok?[13:51:54] <cite> Wooga: Then use something like pwreminder+username at yourdomain dot com as the sender address. Create a recipient "pwreminder at yourdomain dot com". Bounces will be delivered to this address, and because the username is in the address after the "+", you can, e.g. with a script, kill those users which ahve undeliverable mail addresses.[13:52:16] <cite> sharjeel: Yes. Do not forget to execute "postfix reload" after modifying main.cf.[13:52:18] <Wooga> thanks![13:52:53] <cite> Wooga: Even if you can't implement the script that deactivates users, not much harm is done - you can simply delete those addresses until you implement that feature.[13:53:11] <cite> Wooga: You need to set "recipient_delimiter = +" in main.cf, though, to make this work.[13:54:02] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[13:54:41] <sharjeel> cite, thanks ... it worked :)[13:55:17] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[13:55:51] <sharjeel> exit[13:55:53] *** sharjeel has quit IRC[13:56:24] <Twinkletoes|W> I'm getting "warning: Illegal address syntax from localho... blah blah blah", which is OK, but whatever return code it is, is causing fetchmail *not* to delete the message from the server. Is there anything I can do from within postfix to allow fetchmail to accept that it's successfully delievered the mail?[13:58:53] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[14:01:38] *** stephan48 has joined #postfix[14:02:01] <Twinkletoes|W> On 2nd thoughts... postfix doesn't seem to be accepting the mail. How can I force it to accept this? I've already set the option "strict_rfc821_envelopes = no" and reloaded the conf.[14:05:00] *** al has quit IRC[14:05:14] *** al has joined #postfix[14:05:54] *** fabounio has quit IRC[14:08:45] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[14:09:25] *** theblackerbox is now known as theblackbox[14:12:42] *** Jippi has quit IRC[14:12:54] *** Jippi has joined #postfix[14:18:51] *** RedShift has quit IRC[14:22:59] *** klem has quit IRC[14:35:05] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[14:38:34] *** nimbius has joined #postfix[14:38:59] <nimbius> tell me if this sounds out of the ordinary...my mailserver is setup to relay 83 networks throug it.[14:46:53] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[14:47:45] <Dominian> nimbius: that sounds odd[14:48:36] <nimbius> so im running a postfix for a R&D div. in a fortune 500. most of our mail is cronjobs that dont TLS[14:48:46] <thumbs> nimbius: yeah, I use you as a relay for a few of my servers[14:49:29] *** AbsoluteBeginner has joined #postfix[14:50:32] <nimbius> this is the part where i overreact and run screaming through the halls.[14:50:44] <nimbius> but im about 2 pots of coffee shy for that.[14:51:44] <thumbs> nimbius: your server is pretty fast, tho. Thanks.[14:52:08] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[14:52:33] *** sepski has quit IRC[14:52:43] <nimbius> so i need to write the check for my dickpills and lotion out to you then.[14:53:39] *** stephan48 has quit IRC[14:56:00] <nimbius> .part #postfix[14:56:08] *** nimbius has left #postfix[15:07:33] *** Bad_Religion has joined #postfix[15:08:46] <Bad_Religion> does postfix not bounce connection timeouts and connection refused errors?[15:10:57] *** uqlev has quit IRC[15:12:10] *** wdp has quit IRC[15:13:00] *** TomHome has quit IRC[15:17:49] <cite> Bad_Religion: Those are logged as warnings and treated as temporary failures.[15:18:55] <cite> Bad_Religion: Delivery attempts will continue unteil the message expires (see "postconf maximal_queue_lifetime" and "bounce_queue_lifetime")[15:26:59] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:28:32] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[15:29:42] <Bad_Religion> cite: ok that helps, I seen those config values but what I am unsure about also is will that message then be treated as failed and bounced appropriately[15:30:41] *** fronixo has joined #postfix[15:32:27] *** cps0 has joined #postfix[15:34:36] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[15:35:38] <jduggan> hi guys, reading the access.5 documentation regarding the use of BCC foo@domain, if one was to call bcc as an action to a policy daemon, is that like an explicit OK, or does BCC imply DUNNO ?[15:36:56] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[15:37:18] *** stephan48 has joined #postfix[15:41:14] *** hyperboreean has joined #postfix[15:48:09] *** RG3rY has quit IRC[15:50:52] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[15:54:50] *** cilly has joined #postfix[15:55:37] *** aantix has joined #postfix[15:55:56] *** sophokles has quit IRC[15:56:35] *** aantix has quit IRC[15:57:48] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[16:00:14] *** z0ran has quit IRC[16:11:09] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[16:11:49] *** stephan481 has joined #postfix[16:13:02] *** stephan48 has quit IRC[16:17:20] *** vivek has joined #postfix[16:21:41] *** cilly has quit IRC[16:24:09] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[16:26:04] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[16:26:37] *** hyperboreean has quit IRC[16:28:13] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[16:29:43] *** cilly has joined #postfix[16:32:14] *** digitalmortician has quit IRC[16:32:16] <adaptr> !access[16:32:17] <knoba> adaptr: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[16:35:24] <fronixo> !niswarning[16:35:24] <knoba> fronixo: "niswarning" : If you get warnings about NIS lookup problems then you probably have a NIS lookup in your alias_maps. Run postconf alias_maps to see the current settings.[16:39:35] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[16:39:41] *** miconof has quit IRC[16:42:33] *** hparker has quit IRC[16:43:31] <fronixo> Ok now everything is working ive setup the config files so it works with postfixadmin but when i create a mailbox it doesnt create the mailbox on the server. And then i can't login on the smtp via Outlook or similar.[16:48:52] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[16:53:12] <bluethundr> why is maildrop telling me I am not a trusted user?[16:53:14] <bluethundr> http://beezag.pastebin.com/d2016e241[16:54:13] <lunaphyte> none of those are postfix messages.[16:54:30] <lunaphyte> probably best to ask the maildrop folks.[17:00:07] *** AbsoluteBeginner has quit IRC[17:00:19] *** samd has joined #postfix[17:01:15] <samd> i am very new to postfix ,this is my 1st installtion on suse sles 10 ,i have installed packege ,how do i configure postfix now[17:02:33] <lunaphyte> !tell samd welcome[17:02:54] <lunaphyte> !tell samd basic[17:02:58] <lunaphyte> !tell samd examples[17:03:02] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:04:48] <samd> THANKS[17:05:17] <rcsu> hmm, !tell ist a knoba command ?[17:05:52] <samd> lunaphyte: can u please please tell me if i start today in how many days i will able to configure very basic postfix feature ,just send mail and revice mail with 1/2 users[17:06:54] <lunaphyte> how on earth could anyone guess that without comprehensive background on you and your skillset?[17:07:18] <lunaphyte> a better question is probably why do you want to install and configure postfix? do you want to be a mail admin?[17:10:51] <samd> sorry i can understand that but if i have some knowlege of linux and network then ?[17:11:05] <samd> i know its odd quastion but please...[17:11:29] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[17:12:24] <samd> basically i want to setup a this server for to test MAIL/DMZ and smtp server to test UTM[17:13:28] <lunaphyte> don't you have an it department that is responsible for running things like mail servers that could configure and maintain one for your testing?[17:14:39] <samd> sorry i am @home and i want to learn utm and mail/smtp mainly later pop[17:14:52] <lunaphyte> i see.[17:15:09] <lunaphyte> (btw - you want imap, not pop)[17:15:28] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[17:15:38] <lunaphyte> out of everything possible there is to know about linux and networking, what percentage do you think you know?[17:15:55] <samd> lunaphyte: Sorry i really dont know more but in process of understanding[17:16:11] <fronixo> If i don't have a smtpd.conf is that bad? ^^[17:16:13] <samd> imap used for browser based mails ? rith[17:16:53] <lunaphyte> i think it's gonna take you at least a month to become proficient. that's as far as i'll go with this guessing game.[17:17:08] <lunaphyte> fronixo: if you don't eat pizza today is that bad?[17:17:09] *** polaru has quit IRC[17:17:53] <samd> ic[17:20:10] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:21:06] <samd> lunaphyte: can u send u pm[17:24:30] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[17:24:54] <lunaphyte> sure[17:27:03] *** smesjz has joined #postfix[17:31:10] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[17:33:10] *** xercist has joined #postfix[17:33:16] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[17:38:31] *** Pazzo has quit IRC[17:38:59] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[17:50:33] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:57:59] *** hever has quit IRC[18:03:26] *** Robbie_ has quit IRC[18:04:45] *** hark_ has quit IRC[18:05:51] *** VaNNi has quit IRC[18:06:54] *** jmedina has joined #postfix[18:07:35] <jmedina> hi there[18:07:37] <jmedina> is there any known problem with zen.spamhaus.com?[18:07:47] <jmedina> I'm having rejects in two servers[18:09:44] <jmedina> something like this[18:09:45] <jmedina> smtp postfix/smtpd[1455]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from cpc3-stok13-0-0-cust880.bagu.cable.ntl.com[213.104.67.113]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [[18:09:46] <jmedina> 213.104.67.113] blocked using zen.spamhaus.com; v=spf1 -all;[18:09:50] *** hark_ has joined #postfix[18:09:56] <Dominian> jmedina: You've more than likely gone over the allowed limit for free use[18:10:07] <jmedina> I also checkd spamhaus page[18:10:12] <jmedina> Dominian: :O[18:10:16] <jmedina> probably you are right[18:11:25] *** samd_ has joined #postfix[18:11:37] <samd_> lunaphyte: sorry disconnected[18:12:28] *** Alagar has quit IRC[18:12:48] *** loddafnir has joined #postfix[18:15:08] <rob0> zen.spamhaus.COM ?[18:15:13] <rob0> !zen[18:15:13] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL[18:15:24] <rob0> looks like org to me[18:15:57] <rob0> 113.67.104.213.zen.spamhaus.com. 3600 IN TXT "v=spf1 -all"[18:16:09] *** hever has joined #postfix[18:16:23] <rob0> 113.67.104.213.zen.spamhaus.org. 900 IN TXT "http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=213.104.67.113"[18:16:42] <Dominian> leave it to rob0 to actually pay attention to what the user says[18:16:58] <rob0> Takes quite a bit to go over the limit.[18:17:43] <rob0> And no, I didn't really read it, but I copy/pasted it into my dig query, that was how I figured it out. :)[18:20:06] * cpm goes over rob0' limit[18:21:21] <rob0> spamhaus.com : damned cybersquatter[18:22:01] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[18:22:04] <jmedina> rob0: right, they changed main.cf[18:23:26] <rob0> "They" should have both arms broken and shell access revoked.[18:23:48] <jmedina> sorry and thanks[18:24:17] <jmedina> rob0, in fact in this server I disabled zen.spamhaus.org and they enabled it again using .com ¬¬[18:24:41] <Dominian> change passwords smack everyone[18:25:41] *** samd has quit IRC[18:25:55] * seekwill smacks Dominian[18:26:02] * Dominian slaps seekwill[18:26:26] * jelly hoards all the smack[18:26:27] <seekwill> Men get punched, (man) bitches get slapped :([18:27:18] * thumbs beats seekwill at DtD[18:27:33] <Dominian> er..[18:27:38] <seekwill> thumbs: you wish![18:28:26] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[18:34:02] *** samd_ has quit IRC[18:34:19] *** vivek has quit IRC[18:39:27] * cpm raids jelly's hoarded smack[18:41:38] *** F6F has joined #postfix[19:04:17] *** MasterOne has joined #postfix[19:06:51] *** carl- has joined #postfix[19:10:38] *** p3rror has joined #postfix[19:11:56] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[19:20:51] *** hever has quit IRC[19:27:40] *** nb has quit IRC[19:41:13] *** VaNNi has joined #postfix[19:46:59] *** cps0 has quit IRC[19:49:42] *** scylla has quit IRC[19:53:44] *** denis has quit IRC[19:54:07] *** smesjz has quit IRC[19:59:10] *** hever has joined #postfix[20:02:46] *** denis_ has joined #postfix[20:17:25] *** k1ckn1ck has joined #postfix[20:20:20] <k1ckn1ck> h, we are currently using a postfix/dovecot/mysql solution for email. Our marketing team have recently been sending marketing material to customers by email, by adding multiple emails address's in the to: . is there any kind of solution to create a list so all the clients dont see each others email address in the to option in the email[20:21:03] <k1ckn1ck> i am aware of the bcc function, but i'd like to reduce the amount of time it will take to send to that list.[20:22:55] <jmedina> k1ckn1ck: using a mailing list?[20:23:29] <k1ckn1ck> easy enough to create in virtual aliases?[20:24:21] *** klamanet has joined #postfix[20:24:23] <jmedina> sure, I would use something like mailman so you get opt-in and opt-out to your customers[20:25:10] <klamanet> hi everrybody, anybody knows a good tutorial to install postfix+postfixadmin with smtp auth?[20:25:45] <k1ckn1ck> i dont really want to give opt in opt out option as it is more of a distribution list than a mailing list[20:26:32] <jmedina> ok, then create a alias[20:26:43] <thumbs> !tutorial[20:26:43] <knoba> thumbs: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[20:28:29] <klamanet> it's true thumbs, but I'm the last week trying to setup SMTP auth with postfixadmin unsuccessfully[20:33:08] <thumbs> klamanet: I set up postfix + sasl + mysql + courierauth + more in a day.[20:33:22] <thumbs> klamanet: and I had no touched an email server in the last 4 years.[20:33:39] <thumbs> klamanet: so surely, it can't be that hard, provided you read the docs like I did[20:36:16] <klamanet> thumbs: I would be very grateful[20:36:36] <thumbs> klamanet: I never said I would do it for you.[20:37:05] <klamanet> thumbs: I mean, thanks[20:41:16] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: Does everything but smtp-auth work?[20:42:48] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: With swaks give me 504 5.5.2 <mailserver>: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname[20:43:09] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: And your postconf -n is pastebinned where?[20:43:50] <KB1JWQ> k1ckn1ck: They WILL complain loudly if you email people who don't want it. :-)[20:49:37] <xerophyte> how can i configure the ldap with qmail scheme to return pipe[20:49:45] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: Don't /msg me with postfix related stuff.[20:50:00] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: It's a good idea. Can you give me some minutes? I need get a clean copy of the system[20:50:01] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: And it's not just "a good idea," it's "in the topic which you didn't bother to read."[20:50:24] <KB1JWQ> !welcome[20:50:24] <knoba> KB1JWQ: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[20:50:45] <klamanet> peace of n00b i'm[20:52:18] <seekwill> What a n00b[20:53:54] <KB1JWQ> I pretty much accept /msg traffic regarding freenode itself, op concerns within #postfix, and illicit sexual propositions from seekwill.[20:55:06] <seekwill> woohoo[20:56:19] <jmedina> XD[20:57:18] *** nb has joined #postfix[20:58:01] <k1ckn1ck> KB1JWQ: its more of a round robin email, but i do understand what you are saying. Is Mailman one of the more popular mailing lists solutions then?[20:58:38] <KB1JWQ> k1ckn1ck: Yes.[20:59:07] <k1ckn1ck> ok thank you[21:00:52] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[21:06:38] *** api984 has joined #postfix[21:17:12] *** stephan481 has quit IRC[21:18:35] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[21:18:46] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[21:23:47] *** aantix has joined #postfix[21:32:02] *** F6F has quit IRC[21:38:11] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:41:07] *** hohum has quit IRC[21:42:18] *** hever has quit IRC[21:42:29] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:45:12] *** lamby_ has joined #postfix[21:46:03] *** aantix has quit IRC[21:47:07] <lamby_> Aug 27 22:39:49 www postfix/error[30940]: 294BAA9DFC: to=<root at lambov dot org>, relay=none, delay=5048, delays=5048/0.06/0/0.02, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)[21:47:09] <lamby_> ?[21:47:57] <lamby_> some help[21:48:04] <lamby_> please[21:48:26] *** vho\ has joined #postfix[21:48:42] *** jmedina has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** k1ckn1ck has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** electro_ has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** mcp has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** lkthomas has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** vho has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** shasta has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** sysmonk has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** Nockian has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** famicom` has quit IRC[21:48:42] *** Kreg-Work has quit IRC[21:48:44] *** famicom has joined #postfix[21:48:55] *** lkthomas has joined #postfix[21:49:06] *** mcp has joined #postfix[21:50:16] *** k1ckn1ck has joined #postfix[21:50:16] *** Nockian has joined #postfix[21:50:16] *** Kreg-Work has joined #postfix[21:50:16] *** shasta has joined #postfix[21:50:16] *** sysmonk has joined #postfix[21:50:29] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: ok, at the moment is installed apache2+php5+php-mysql+php-imap+sasl2&modules+courier-auth+postfix+postfix-mysql+postfixadmin(configured with a admin user and DB loaded) Here is the main.cf http://pastebin.com/m499dbeae[21:51:11] *** ak_hepcat has joined #postfix[21:51:15] *** ak_hepcat has left #postfix[21:51:55] <rob0> lamby_: That's not enough to go on. Apparently whatever transport(5) you have set for lambov.org is unavailable. See /topic if that doesn't answer your question.[21:52:46] <lamby_> rob0 i made all steps from http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny and get this error[21:54:07] *** lamby_ has quit IRC[21:54:20] *** lamby_ has joined #postfix[21:59:24] *** hohum has joined #postfix[22:02:29] <lamby_> Aug 27 22:44:49 www postfix/error[31033]: D4186A9E0C: to=<stoyan at lambov dot org>, relay=none, delay=928, delays=927/0.14/0/0.07, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)[22:02:31] <lamby_> @[22:02:36] <lamby_> ?[22:02:42] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[22:06:26] *** pnZd\mGW\ has joined #postfix[22:09:16] *** kfo_ has joined #postfix[22:13:58] *** hohum has quit IRC[22:14:13] *** hohum has joined #postfix[22:16:48] <lamby_> help me please :( http://pastebin.com/m2d0906ed[22:19:28] <lunaphyte> lamby_: start with the obvious things, like line 109 of your pastebin[22:20:27] <lamby_> ok[22:20:56] <lunaphyte> also, why are you using dovecot for your virtual_transport?[22:20:59] *** cipherz has quit IRC[22:21:32] *** carl- has quit IRC[22:22:13] <lamby_> i used this how-t http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny,[22:25:08] <lunaphyte> that tutorial is one of the few that we are willing to accept here, but unless you have some specific need to use dovecot's mda you'd really best just leave it as is.[22:26:01] *** kfo has quit IRC[22:26:01] *** kfo_ is now known as kfo[22:28:15] *** aantix has joined #postfix[22:29:38] <lamby_> lunaphyte what do y suggest, i just want a warking mail server with virtual domains ?[22:30:08] <lunaphyte> what are you talking about? i've made my suggestions.[22:31:05] *** api984 has quit IRC[22:32:00] <lamby_> can you give me anaother tutorial how to configure my mail server ?[22:32:41] <lunaphyte> are you even reading what i'm taking the time to write?[22:33:02] <lunaphyte> !tell lamby_ tutorial[22:33:42] <seekwill> The Book of Postfix[22:33:48] <seekwill> By Ralf H[22:34:36] <lamby_> :)[22:41:03] <lamby_> can somebody help ?[22:41:41] <lamby_> http://pastebin.com/m2d0906ed - line 109 fixed[22:46:52] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: You fail at FQDN.[22:46:54] <KB1JWQ> !fqdn[22:46:54] <knoba> KB1JWQ: "fqdn" : the 'Fully-Qualified Domain Name'. It consists of the hostname part and the domain part. 'www.postfix.org' is a FQDN whereas 'www' is not. Only DNS resolvable, fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs) are permitted when domain names are used in SMTP.[22:50:43] <k1ckn1ck> wish my problem was this easy[22:52:00] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[22:52:02] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: Nice to see you again. I know what is my problem: the auth in SMTP. I wanna use auth from MySQL. I found this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto and now I'm setting the smtpd.conf[22:52:47] <k1ckn1ck> ola lunaphyte my email server is non functional, can u help?[22:55:13] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:58:44] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: You need to fix the FQDN that your box HELOs as or remote sites won't accept your mail.[22:59:16] <KB1JWQ> lamby_: Please troll lunaphyte less. He's sensitive.[22:59:28] <seekwill> Troll KB1JWQ instead[23:00:44] <lamby_> how to change my mail delivery agent[23:00:46] <lamby_> ?[23:00:56] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: Ok, but I send mails from test-mode in postfixadmin and works fine[23:00:59] <lamby_> where is my mistake[23:01:01] <lamby_> ?[23:01:50] *** bturnbull has joined #postfix[23:04:50] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: Yes, it works in your test instance, fine-- other people have different restrictions set. The error you pasted is FQDN derived; if you disagree paste a more relevant error.[23:06:11] <seekwill> 250 Relaying Denied :-([23:09:21] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: Watch what is the msg actually -> http://pastebin.com/m23639cbd[23:10:16] <seekwill> heh[23:10:50] <k1ckn1ck> not sure if anyone can answer this, but trying to use Mailman with postfix, using virtual domains, is it best to use a seperate sub domain for Mm[23:10:56] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: Explain to me how "mailserver" is a valid email address.[23:11:07] <KB1JWQ> k1ckn1ck: Generally.[23:11:17] <KB1JWQ> k1ckn1ck: I took it a step further and actually gave it its own postfix instance.[23:11:28] <seekwill> k1ckn1ck: We always use "lists.domain.com"[23:11:49] <seekwill> Generally because our list servers are on a different machine (and IP address) than the corporate mail server[23:12:37] <seekwill> Lists can be spammy, so it's best not to pollute your transactional IP addresses[23:12:57] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: no, mailserver is the name of the pc. It's important to say that i'm testing in a LAN?[23:13:44] <KB1JWQ> klamanet: You need to figure out how the SMTP protocol works.[23:14:07] <KB1JWQ> RCPT TO:<mailserver> <-- Oh I'm sorry, that's so very wrong it's not even in the same hemisphere as right.[23:14:15] <k1ckn1ck> thats brilliant advice thank you. My email server is located on-site, but our website is hosted on a dedicated server at an isp, would i need to install postfix on the dedicated server to then host the list?[23:14:31] <KB1JWQ> This is not #email101.[23:14:45] <seekwill> Too many K's speaking[23:14:51] <KB1JWQ> seekwill: srsly.[23:15:14] *** war9407 has quit IRC[23:15:30] *** KB1JWQ is now known as evilKB1JWQ[23:15:43] *** aantix has quit IRC[23:15:48] <evilKB1JWQ> Happy?[23:16:04] <k1ckn1ck> muchlu, ty[23:16:05] <klamanet> KB1JWQ: ok, but I need to add a virtual domain to use a domain.tld?[23:16:31] <evilKB1JWQ> klamanet: You need to send to an email address! Not a hostname! That's what RCPT TO: *DOES*![23:17:11] <seekwill> heh[23:18:41] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[23:18:57] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[23:19:50] <lamby_> heh[23:20:16] <evilKB1JWQ> !tell klamanet basic[23:20:26] <evilKB1JWQ> Go read.[23:21:00] <klamanet> evilKB1JWQ: Now is give me Relay access denied. I'll still reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto. Thank so much[23:21:56] <evilKB1JWQ> !tutorial[23:21:57] <knoba> evilKB1JWQ: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.[23:22:15] <rob0> !relay_denied[23:22:15] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from CLIENT_HOST[CLIENT_IP]: 554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER@SENDER_DOMAIN> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>: This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or (1 more message)[23:23:53] <evilKB1JWQ> rob0: You can handle this before I strangle him. :-)[23:24:40] * k1ckn1ck hands evilKB1JWQ some rope!!![23:25:05] *** rcsu has quit IRC[23:28:55] *** hparker has joined #postfix[23:30:03] <evilKB1JWQ> Hey, hparker[23:30:38] <hparker> evilKB1JWQ: How did you become evil?[23:30:47] <evilKB1JWQ> klamanet drove me to it.[23:31:01] <evilKB1JWQ> Through his failing to grasp the SMTP conversation.[23:31:11] <hparker> I see :P[23:32:00] <klamanet> evilKB1JWQ: Sorry men[23:38:43] *** klamanet has quit IRC[23:39:56] *** Bad_Religion has quit IRC[23:43:39] *** evilKB1JWQ is now known as KB1JWQ[23:43:51] <seekwill> help[23:44:02] <seekwill> mY rCpTT to: doesn't work[23:44:09] <seekwill> RCPT TO:<myhostname>[23:44:14] <seekwill> wHy??[23:46:38] <rob0> I ate it. Sorry.[23:46:45] <seekwill> give it back![23:47:07] <rob0> At this point you wouldn't want it back.[23:47:26] <seekwill> i can deal with that[23:48:01] <lamby_> www postfix/qmgr[31373]: warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis: Connection refused[23:48:27] <seekwill> Dang, what a cryptic message![23:49:47] <cite> Mail loops back to myself. Literally.[23:49:54] <seekwill> Nice![23:49:58] <rob0> lamby_: BTW, unsolicited private messages are billable.[23:50:03] <cite> I tried to sent this damn letter twice, and it came back twice.[23:50:27] <rob0> Silly, that was a boomerang mail client you used![23:50:29] <cite> Recipient unknown and two instead of three stamps.[23:51:16] <cite> wAnd because the wonderful Italian postal service is slower than my former company's exchange, I'm already two wweks late :-([23:52:39] <seekwill> heh[23:52:45] <cite> So, tell me, where is the loginc in sending a letter back from Italy to Germany because they noticed I didn't pay enough?!?[23:52:55] <seekwill> It's the principle[23:53:01] <cite> Probably.[23:53:09] <seekwill> Just keep doing it again[23:53:31] <cite> I tried sending an email. Came back. "The IP you are sending from is in the FortiGuard blacklist."[23:53:44] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[23:53:50] <cite> I'm just goona take a few days off and stuff their fortiguard and their postal service up their a****[23:54:08] <cite> And BTW, my typing sucks. Again.[23:55:10] *** pingouin has quit IRC[23:57:40] *** seekwill has quit IRC[23:57:44] <rob0> cite: sounds like improper use of a DNSBL, if you ask me. ;)[23:59:13] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[23:59:44] <cite> rob0: ;-)[23:59:52] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix