August 25, 2009 
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August 25, 2009 [00:07:12] *** MasterOne has quit IRC[00:10:07] *** chasing`Sol has joined #postfix[00:12:44] *** aiOn has joined #postfix[00:13:06] <aiOn> Getting "can't create user output file" when people try to send mail to any user on my mail server, ideas?[00:16:10] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[00:17:21] <pickcoder> aiOn: log example?[00:17:25] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[00:18:35] <aiOn> pickcoder, got it figured out. Quotas...agh.[00:18:54] <aiOn> pickcoder, don't even know why the old sysadmin put it in, the servers got a TB of space for cryin' out loud![00:19:27] <pickcoder> yeah but people could be e-mailing pr0n and consume the entire TB[00:19:31] <pickcoder> heh[00:21:33] <KB1JWQ> Seen it before.[00:21:35] <KB1JWQ> Will see it again. :)[00:22:04] *** war9407 has quit IRC[00:28:38] *** paulez has joined #postfix[00:32:26] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: I hate courier-imap.[00:33:33] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: I actually like it okay.[00:33:46] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: Now that dovecot is mature, I'm happier there, but courier brings back the fun old days.[00:34:11] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: it was most of my day today[00:34:19] <thumbs> that and cpan issues.[00:34:43] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: I love stories.[00:35:18] <pickcoder> cpan repos or cpan the shell?[00:35:24] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: oh, and using a full mysql backend, too[00:35:29] <adaptr> or c-span the sports network[00:35:35] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: Shoulda mentioned it in here.[00:35:38] <thumbs> pickcoder: repos, packages refusing to build[00:35:40] <KB1JWQ> I have a full config doing exactly that at home.[00:35:55] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: oh, thanks, but I meant to learn it again[00:35:57] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: What OS?[00:36:01] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: centos.[00:36:03] <pickcoder> thumbs: oh yeah.. that's not surprising[00:36:05] *** mezgani has joined #postfix[00:36:17] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: Ew. I have it working happily on FreeBSD, but Centos is... touchy.[00:36:19] <pickcoder> you can check the possibility of a successful build/install on the cpan site[00:36:26] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: tell me about it.[00:37:28] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: the repository lacks so many libs. I forgot how much of a PITA compiling everything by hand was.[00:38:19] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: they didn't offer BSD on those slices, and a debian-based distro was out of the question.[00:38:22] *** aantix has quit IRC[00:38:46] <pickcoder> well of course...[00:38:50] <KB1JWQ> thumbs: God help you if you talk about that in #centos[00:39:04] <thumbs> KB1JWQ: I didn't dare, no.[00:39:11] <pickcoder> it may actually be precompiled and available...[00:39:17] <pickcoder> but 2 years old[00:39:26] <thumbs> pickcoder: see, I don't like that.[00:39:37] <pickcoder> so run Gentoo[00:39:42] <pickcoder> and build everything fresh and new[00:39:49] <thumbs> however, centos still ships httpd 2.2.3, but I am willing to live with that for now.[00:39:54] *** diqpib has quit IRC[00:39:59] <pickcoder> 2.2.3? OMG[00:40:02] <thumbs> pickcoder: I don't want to spend 4 days on this.[00:40:21] <pickcoder> at least 2.2.9 is available in Debian[00:40:22] <pickcoder> :)[00:40:29] *** wdp has quit IRC[00:40:30] <thumbs> I'll probably make new httpd and php packages from the srpm.[00:40:51] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[00:41:24] <pickcoder> you understand the build procedures for RH?[00:41:39] <thumbs> pickcoder: fairly well.[00:41:40] <pickcoder> I need to recompile a Fedora kernel[00:41:59] <pickcoder> but that's for another day.. and another channel[00:42:06] <pickcoder> time to head home[00:42:24] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[00:52:08] *** rolfkatt has joined #postfix[00:52:53] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[01:01:46] *** cbsd has quit IRC[01:13:06] *** timotiCK1 has joined #POSTFIX[01:20:24] *** rolfkatt has quit IRC[01:22:40] *** timotiCK1 has left #POSTFIX[01:28:19] *** aantix has joined #postfix[01:29:09] *** magyar has joined #postfix[01:38:20] *** hever has quit IRC[01:38:44] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[01:43:24] *** aantix has quit IRC[01:45:19] *** AcTiVaTe has joined #postfix[01:56:00] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[01:56:53] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[02:01:51] *** bobbyd has joined #postfix[02:01:54] <bobbyd> hi[02:02:03] <KB1JWQ> Hello.[02:03:47] <KB1JWQ> !welcome[02:03:47] <knoba> KB1JWQ: "welcome" : welcome to #postfix! if you're joining for the first time, or are new to irc, the first thing you'll want to do is read the channel topic (/topic). it includes crucial instructions on how to effectively ask for help here, and what data you should include with your questions. the degree of success you'll have is directly related to how effectively you're able to follow those guidelines.[02:16:40] *** Zordrak_ has joined #postfix[02:16:49] *** Zordrak has quit IRC[02:19:29] <bobbyd> I'm running postfix 2.2.5 under Ubuntu Jaunty, I'm transferring a previously working config ( :) ) to a new server. I run spamassassin as a filter to check mail, and I think that's working fine, the problem is that once iit passes the spam check, qmgr tells me the user isn't in the vurtual users table.[02:19:32] <bobbyd> http://pastebin.com/d2d0a993[02:19:48] <bobbyd> the logs, config files, and some additional info are in there[02:20:10] <bobbyd> would anyone have time to take a look and tell me what idiocy I'm performing? :)[02:20:35] <bobbyd> virtual even :)[02:22:26] <bobbyd> I'm at a loss as I've run postmap against the /etc/postfix/virtual file and it seems to have the entries in it that are required[02:25:23] *** SARGuy has quit IRC[02:26:49] *** plugwash has quit IRC[02:30:43] *** Zblakany has quit IRC[02:32:59] <rob0> !unknown_virtual[02:32:59] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)[02:34:49] <bobbyd> ok, I'll follow that up :)[02:43:33] *** samix has quit IRC[02:45:13] *** samix has joined #postfix[02:46:43] <bobbyd> ok[02:47:44] <bobbyd> the domain is in virtual_alias_domains in main.cf and as far as I can tell, the user@domain is in the virtual_alias_maps file (testing using postmap -q)[02:50:47] <bobbyd> so it doesn't make any sense :([02:53:37] *** hvera has joined #postfix[02:56:04] <rob0> I bet $myorigin is also in virtual_alias_domains, am I guessing right?[02:56:30] <bobbyd> checking[02:57:14] <rob0> If so, you have a virtual alias loop with those unqualified addresses in virtual_alias_maps. Best practice: don't use unqualified addresses in maps.[03:00:32] <bobbyd> yes, that's true, in the old server it's phoenix.merseine.nu in the new one it's the same as one of the domains in virtual_alias_domains[03:00:46] <bobbyd> I must have set that during setup somewhere :/[03:02:11] *** clockspider has joined #postfix[03:02:14] <bobbyd> it's working :)[03:02:25] <rob0> People commonly assume that a bare "username" always means "deliver to the system user 'username'", but that's not so.[03:02:40] <bobbyd> thankyou very much for helping :)[03:02:44] <rob0> yw[03:02:48] <rob0> oh one more thing[03:02:51] <rob0> !cheatsheet[03:02:52] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[03:02:54] <rob0> !zen[03:02:55] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL[03:03:13] <rob0> Content filtering for spam control sucks, IMNSHO.[03:03:26] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[03:03:38] <rob0> You can get rid of better than 90% of it using safer, surer means.[03:03:42] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[03:03:55] <bobbyd> ok cool, i'm willing to try anything :)[03:04:41] <bobbyd> I'll have a go at that. Spamassassin has been doing a good job for a couple of years though, but I'll try that out and compare :)[03:04:48] <rob0> I find that reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname gets rid of about 25% of all connections, and never lost real mail.[03:05:40] <bobbyd> ok, that would definitely be cool for me, I get a lot of shitty connections[03:05:49] <rob0> reject_rbl_client Zen.spamhaus.org gets you up to about 90% rejections (assuming a heavily spammed domain.)[03:06:19] <bobbyd> I do get a lot of spam on one of the adresses as I've had it for ten years[03:06:26] <rob0> reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname is pretty safe, many major mail services use that.[03:06:50] <rob0> reject_unknown_client_hostname is NOT quite safe.[03:07:05] <bobbyd> hhmm, I'll try the first out then[03:07:27] <rob0> reject_unknown_helo_hostname is definitely not safe, seems to get most MSexChange sites.[03:07:28] <bobbyd> do you have an example config up somewhere?[03:07:39] <bobbyd> things that you suggest?[03:07:43] <rob0> The cheatsheet is pretty good.[03:07:55] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[03:08:21] <bobbyd> ok, checking that out now[03:15:35] <bobbyd> ok, thanks for the help, mails is running fine now :)[03:15:56] <bobbyd> I might be back with a couple of questions about the cheatsheet at some point[03:16:01] <bobbyd> goodnight[03:16:11] <rob0> sure, good night[03:16:18] *** bobbyd has quit IRC[03:16:34] <rob0> KB1JWQ: How the heck did THAT happen?[03:17:50] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:19:27] *** clockspider_ has joined #postfix[03:19:39] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[03:28:42] *** clockspider has quit IRC[03:38:16] *** samix has quit IRC[03:43:43] *** _mXr has quit IRC[03:43:46] *** mXr has joined #postfix[03:45:40] *** mezgani has quit IRC[03:48:40] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[03:55:03] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[03:55:07] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[03:58:53] *** s0ber_ has joined #postfix[04:02:26] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[04:02:58] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[04:03:09] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[04:03:19] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[04:10:35] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[04:11:49] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[04:12:46] *** s0ber has quit IRC[04:13:41] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[04:46:57] *** gebi_ has joined #postfix[04:57:18] *** gebi has quit IRC[04:59:01] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[05:00:50] *** githogori has quit IRC[05:07:04] *** ramoni has quit IRC[05:43:57] <thumbs> rob0: success![05:44:41] <thumbs> postfix+maildrop+clamav+amavis+courier+imap+pop3[05:51:34] <rob0> yay[05:51:36] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[05:51:57] <thumbs> +mysql[05:52:13] <thumbs> it's a bitch to set up, I can tell you.[05:55:07] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[06:02:50] *** warren has joined #postfix[06:02:58] *** warren has left #postfix[06:05:07] *** andrewfree has joined #postfix[06:06:11] *** warren has joined #postfix[06:06:45] <warren> Does postfix have anything like exim's fakereject? Save the mail delivered, but tell the sender they have a 5XX error.[06:13:35] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:13:40] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:20:49] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[06:46:14] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[06:47:46] *** bhagat_ has joined #postfix[06:48:02] *** bhagat has quit IRC[06:48:05] *** bhagat_ has quit IRC[06:48:16] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[07:00:06] *** kfo_ has joined #postfix[07:05:55] *** buyaka has joined #postfix[07:08:30] *** hparker has quit IRC[07:08:58] *** kfo has quit IRC[07:08:58] *** kfo_ is now known as kfo[07:11:05] *** buyaka has left #postfix[07:11:51] *** hparker has joined #postfix[07:20:13] <KB1JWQ> rob0: How did what happen?[07:24:16] *** cilly has quit IRC[07:26:18] *** chrisq_ has quit IRC[07:33:30] <rob0> Fakereject, not sure. I can't imagine wanting such a thing, myself. Maybe change the success code somehow?[07:34:21] <rob0> KB1JWQ: We had a person come in here, you gave him the !welcome factoid, and he read and complied with the /topic! That never happens when *I* give them the !welcome.[07:34:59] <KB1JWQ> rob0: Hahaha yeah. :-D[07:35:23] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[07:35:30] <rob0> Got his issue sorted out easily, and gave him extra help to boot. How cool is that?[07:36:43] <rob0> Most of these, they'd still be madly thrashing about 4-5 hours later.[07:38:46] <KB1JWQ> No kidding.[07:38:57] <KB1JWQ> I have time to sleep through most of the night by the time they get their issues sorted out.[07:49:46] *** Niemi has joined #postfix[07:50:46] *** Niemi has quit IRC[08:00:16] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:00:23] *** mactimes_ has joined #postfix[08:02:40] *** MasterOne has joined #postfix[08:02:46] *** sophokles has joined #postfix[08:08:28] *** cilly has joined #postfix[08:10:03] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[08:14:42] *** andrewfree has quit IRC[08:14:58] *** toXic has joined #postfix[08:15:07] *** toXic is now known as Guest51015[08:15:20] *** theif has joined #postfix[08:15:25] *** theif has left #postfix[08:22:05] *** andrewfree has joined #postfix[08:27:42] *** mactimes has quit IRC[08:31:58] *** cilly has quit IRC[08:32:50] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[08:36:41] *** mactimes_ is now known as mactimes[08:38:43] *** polaru has joined #postfix[08:39:10] *** Guest51015 has quit IRC[08:48:20] *** Niemi has joined #postfix[08:48:38] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[08:57:01] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[08:57:03] *** jelly has quit IRC[08:57:47] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:00:04] *** bhagat has quit IRC[09:01:49] *** SteveC has quit IRC[09:01:55] *** SteveC has joined #postfix[09:03:34] *** jelly has joined #postfix[09:08:40] *** Niemi has quit IRC[09:08:50] *** mactimes has quit IRC[09:11:25] *** andrewfree has quit IRC[09:11:41] *** denis has joined #postfix[09:20:23] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[09:23:26] *** diqpib has joined #postfix[09:24:21] *** chrisq has joined #postfix[09:25:41] *** Pazzo has joined #postfix[09:25:55] *** miconof has joined #postfix[09:32:05] *** hever has joined #postfix[09:34:40] *** chasing`Sol has quit IRC[09:35:13] *** chasing`Sol has joined #postfix[09:43:01] *** hparker has quit IRC[09:49:46] *** polaru has quit IRC[09:49:49] *** Robbie_ has joined #postfix[09:50:06] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[09:52:31] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[09:53:22] *** miconof has quit IRC[09:54:12] *** polaru has joined #postfix[09:55:59] *** miconof has joined #postfix[09:57:21] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[10:02:07] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[10:06:04] *** F6F has joined #postfix[10:13:53] *** al has quit IRC[10:14:03] *** al has joined #postfix[10:17:55] *** plugwash has joined #postfix[10:32:43] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[10:34:41] *** wdp has joined #postfix[10:40:09] *** gebi_ is now known as gebi[10:46:14] <maloi> hello i have entries in /etc/aliases like 'list: "|/path/to/script.sh"'. When i send mail to list, then it's not piped to this script, instead it's delivered to a /virtual) mailbox. "kolab dovecot: auth(default): master out: USER^I1^I|/usr/local/bin/listmailer.sh list^Iuid=2525^Igid=2525^Ihome=/var/spool/virtual_mailboxes/|/usr/local/bin/listmailer.sh list"[10:46:41] <maloi> it's the same with the postfix lda...[10:47:26] *** klem has quit IRC[10:53:12] *** sophokles1 has joined #postfix[10:58:30] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[11:03:25] *** naoshige has joined #postfix[11:03:30] <naoshige> Hi everyone[11:03:33] <naoshige> I got greylisting enabled[11:03:51] <naoshige> And I'm expecting a very important email from someone - I'm suspecting their email have been greylisted[11:03:55] <naoshige> Is there anyway I can find out?[11:04:18] <naoshige> * any way[11:06:29] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[11:07:27] <sysmonk> naoshige: do you know they email addie? if so - check the logs[11:07:30] <sysmonk> same for their IP[11:08:20] <naoshige> /var/log/maillog?[11:09:02] *** sophokles has quit IRC[11:09:10] <naoshige> nope, nothing there[11:09:34] <naoshige> Thanks sysmonk :)[11:09:39] <naoshige> now i can breathe again[11:15:17] *** F6F has quit IRC[11:22:50] *** d_l0rd has joined #postfix[11:23:32] <d_l0rd> Hi, is it possible to forward the mail for one account in the virtual file to another server? (both are configured to receive mail for this domain)[11:29:03] *** diqpib has quit IRC[11:40:31] *** wdp has quit IRC[11:41:13] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:46:25] *** wdp has joined #postfix[11:53:53] *** rolfkatt has joined #postfix[12:13:37] *** mactimes has quit IRC[12:25:39] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_maps[12:25:39] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_maps" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote addresses. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[12:29:55] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[12:30:46] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[12:30:58] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[12:31:05] *** digitalmortician has quit IRC[12:31:19] *** digitalmortician has joined #postfix[12:33:28] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:41:43] *** hugo has joined #postfix[12:43:19] *** s0ber_ has quit IRC[12:44:14] *** scylla has joined #postfix[12:52:40] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[12:55:10] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[13:03:20] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[13:05:46] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[13:12:01] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[13:12:54] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[13:16:28] *** z0ran has joined #postfix[13:17:42] *** F6F has joined #postfix[13:18:14] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[13:20:00] *** digitalmortician has quit IRC[13:21:18] *** digitalmortician has joined #postfix[13:23:59] *** wdp has quit IRC[13:24:25] <bluethundr> as far as I know postfix is talking to the db just fine[13:24:37] <bluethundr> I set this up months ago, but I see a bunch of mysql config files in my postfix directory and i can access the db from the mail server using that account and password[13:25:06] <bluethundr> and I can telnet into the mail server on 143 (testing IMAP)[13:25:22] <bluethundr> but I can't authenticate. how can I be sure that my postfix config is talking to the db?[13:25:43] *** wdp has joined #postfix[13:26:25] <cpm> could you authenticate once upon a time, and all of a sudden, no longer?[13:26:46] <bluethundr> never yet[13:27:00] <bluethundr> this server was a 'send only' server for java coders[13:27:09] <bluethundr> but now they want me to put a webmail interface on it[13:31:03] *** _marix has quit IRC[13:40:31] *** maloi_ has joined #postfix[13:40:32] *** maloi has quit IRC[13:40:52] *** stephan48 has joined #postfix[13:43:17] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[13:52:29] *** rno has joined #postfix[13:59:04] *** Muhis has joined #Postfix[14:07:02] *** Flomar has joined #postfix[14:07:29] <Flomar> Good morning/afternoon/evening![14:08:33] <Flomar> Guys is there a way to create classes for message_size_limit parameter, for example i want to have different attachment limits for my users... boss can attach 20mb and other users 10mb[14:10:49] <jduggan> policyd[14:11:24] <Flomar> jduggan, in the version 2?[14:11:26] <Flomar> i use version 1[14:11:34] <jduggan> version 1 can do it[14:11:35] <Flomar> and i can define the global parameter to limit the size...[14:11:38] <jduggan> although[14:11:42] <jduggan> it causes a bounce[14:11:44] <Flomar> per user?[14:11:49] <jduggan> yes[14:12:11] <Flomar> attachment? i use the throttling per day basis but i want to limit per message[14:12:39] <jduggan> ohhh, attachments, i missed that part, policyd is per message, it doesnt know about attachments[14:12:48] <jduggan> its the total size including the attachment[14:13:02] <kerneld> Okay, so I would would like to use a hash map for relay domains and mydestination. key being myhostname. eg: mx1.mydom.com foo.com \n mx1.mydom.com bar.com \n mx2.mydom.com baz.com[14:13:54] <kerneld> if mx1.mydom.com used that file for mydestinations, it would get foo.com, bar.com[14:13:59] <kerneld> possible?[14:14:47] <Flomar> jduggan, :D thanks... i looked to that table so many times[14:14:51] <kerneld> alternative is to setup something in ldap I guess[14:15:09] <Flomar> i was blind ! now i`ve seen the _mail_size parameter per user![14:15:15] <Flomar> you saved my day :D[14:15:26] <Flomar> jduggan, have you experienced policyd v2?[14:15:58] <jduggan> yes, i know the developer well and was one of the first to test in a fairly large environment ;][14:16:08] <Flomar> :) nice[14:16:19] <Flomar> i have also a large environment (100 million mails per month)[14:16:39] <Flomar> v2 is written in perl?[14:17:59] <jduggan> yep[14:18:03] <Flomar> i would like to modify the tables, add some cols ... and consolidate the data, and i don`t like to change the default C flags, and C related stuff, but if it is in perl i`m more confortable to edit the code[14:18:12] <jduggan> 100million is good size :)[14:18:24] <Flomar> yes... we`re a brazilian isp :)[14:18:35] <jduggan> is that delivered? or including rejections? :)[14:18:35] *** stephan481 has joined #postfix[14:19:52] <Flomar> including rejections[14:20:16] *** stephan48 has quit IRC[14:20:32] <Flomar> delivered it reduces to ... 20 million more or less ... bloddy spam traffic[14:21:06] <Flomar> jduggan, v2 has already all functions from v1?[14:21:26] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[14:22:04] <Flomar> i mostly need throttling for my mail submission servers and that control for attachments and to my MX servers blacklist, whitelist, helo blocking...[14:22:14] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[14:22:47] <jduggan> Flomar: most aspects are covered[14:23:12] <jduggan> check the website[14:23:13] <jduggan> :)[14:24:52] *** hever has quit IRC[14:25:59] *** hever has joined #postfix[14:27:27] *** tasdomas has joined #postfix[14:27:29] <tasdomas> hi[14:27:32] <TomHome> any thoughts about uceprotect.net[14:27:35] <TomHome> any thoughts about uceprotect.net ?[14:27:41] <tasdomas> how do I enable relay to all domains?[14:27:43] <TomHome> seems a bit agressive actually[14:30:55] <tasdomas> I have postfix on laptop[14:31:22] <tasdomas> and I would like to be able to send emails from localhost to any email[14:31:29] <tasdomas> address[14:31:35] <tasdomas> but I get relay access denied[14:32:25] <kerneld> tasdomas: localhost should be in mynetworks[14:33:02] <kerneld> which should be in smtpd_recipient_restrictions as permit_mynetworks[14:33:25] <kerneld> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8[14:33:43] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[14:34:02] <kerneld> are you perhaps being rejected by your relayhost?[14:35:15] <kerneld> if you don't use a relayhost, and your laptop soes not have a well defined IP and FQDN, you may have probs with other mailservers rejecting you too[14:38:24] *** farchanjo has joined #postfix[14:39:26] <Flomar> TomHome,[14:39:36] <Flomar> TomHome, uceprotece.net blocked your network?[14:39:49] <TomHome> nop[14:40:15] <TomHome> but I used them as a RBL and I see some MTA of main french ISP blocked[14:40:23] <Flomar> TomHome, don`t use them[14:40:29] <TomHome> done :)[14:41:08] <Flomar> TomHome, I`m a brazilian sysadmin this guys blocked ALL brazilian networks some time ago and they ask you to pay for delisting... that`s not fair.[14:41:30] <TomHome> yep I saw that[14:41:40] <kerneld> spamhaus does fine by me[14:41:49] <kerneld> !spamhaus[14:41:49] <knoba> kerneld: Error: "spamhaus" is not a valid command.[14:42:03] <kerneld> !spamhaus.org[14:42:04] <knoba> kerneld: Error: "spamhaus.org" is not a valid command.[14:42:11] *** _marix has joined #postfix[14:42:20] <kerneld> !sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org[14:42:20] <knoba> kerneld: Error: "sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org" is not a valid command.[14:42:33] <kerneld> well that swats a chunk of my spam[14:45:12] <Flomar> zen.spamhaus[14:45:21] <Flomar> zen consolidates the other lists from spamhaus[14:47:00] *** z0ran has quit IRC[14:49:21] *** sep has joined #postfix[14:50:09] *** _marix has quit IRC[14:55:42] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:56:43] *** _marix has joined #postfix[14:59:53] *** naoshige has quit IRC[15:02:29] *** eanxgeek_ has joined #postfix[15:14:05] *** hparker has joined #postfix[15:17:56] *** cbsd has joined #postfix[15:18:50] *** bluethundr_ has joined #postfix[15:18:54] <cbsd> hi if i got my users from mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailboxes.cf is there a way to validate the mail from: that is not a user listed on mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailboxes.cf will be rejected?[15:19:56] <cbsd> im using[15:19:59] <cbsd> smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_invalid_hostname[15:20:00] <cbsd> smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unknown_address, reject_unauth_destination[15:20:00] <cbsd> smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining[15:20:15] <cbsd> but there's still any mail from: user at address dot whatever[15:20:18] <cbsd> can send mail[15:24:33] *** TomHome has quit IRC[15:25:34] *** pingouin has quit IRC[15:26:59] <Flomar> cbsd, yes[15:27:51] <Flomar> cbsd, if i understand, you want to assure that the From address is an user that really exist in your system?[15:28:13] <Flomar> do you use sasl to auth?[15:30:11] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[15:31:36] <cbsd> yes[15:31:38] <cbsd> i do Flomar[15:31:58] <cbsd> yes Flomar i want to assure that[15:33:12] <cbsd> i got the smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unknown_address, reject_unauth_destination[15:33:15] <cbsd> but is not working[15:36:53] <Flomar> !reject_non_fqdn_sender[15:36:54] <knoba> Flomar: Error: "reject_non_fqdn_sender" is not a valid command.[15:37:08] <Flomar> !smtpd_sender_restrictions[15:37:08] <knoba> Flomar: "smtpd_sender_restrictions" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional restrictions that the Postfix SMTP server applies in the context of the SMTP MAIL FROM command. See access(5) for an overview of access restriction features.[15:40:48] *** tasdomas has quit IRC[15:46:53] *** brainsoft is now known as brsoft[15:47:20] *** warren has quit IRC[15:50:06] *** gpled has joined #postfix[15:51:09] <gpled> need a little help. my amavisd stopped working, so my mail is stuck. after amavisd get done, it sends it onto an exchange server. can someone help me bypass sending it to amavid, and just forward it?[15:53:24] *** cilly has joined #postfix[15:54:26] <Dominian> !content_filter[15:54:27] <knoba> Dominian: "content_filter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The name of a mail delivery transport that filters mail after it is queued.[15:54:40] <gpled> Dominian: that for me?[15:54:54] <Dominian> yes[15:55:00] <gpled> was just looking at that[15:55:07] <gpled> so just # out filter line?[15:56:13] <Dominian> yah and restart postfix[15:58:16] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[16:00:58] <gpled> can you take a look at http://linux-coders.pastebin.com/m32cff36b[16:01:18] <gpled> think the 127.0.0.1 line is still causing trouble[16:02:44] *** polaru has quit IRC[16:03:21] *** polaru has joined #postfix[16:04:37] <Flomar> gpled, requeue the messages after it to be resent to queue and bypass filters[16:04:57] <Flomar> postsuper -r ALL[16:06:03] <Flomar> gpled, comment in your main.cf file[16:06:45] <gpled> Flomar: you mean master?[16:07:15] <Flomar> main.cf, somewhere you may specify your filter::port setting[16:07:15] <gpled> o, i see: content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024[16:07:18] <Flomar> yes[16:07:51] <Flomar> simply comment that line[16:08:01] <Flomar> postfix reload and postsuper -r ALL to requeue messages[16:08:25] *** polaru has quit IRC[16:09:36] <gpled> Dominian: and Flomar: thank you[16:10:05] <Flomar> ;)[16:10:15] <Dominian> np[16:10:37] <cbsd> how can i just let smtps work and dont let smtp init on a machine running postfix?[16:11:56] <gpled> now that panic mode is over. would commenting the content_filter line in main.cf alone, worked?[16:13:00] *** al has quit IRC[16:13:08] *** al has joined #postfix[16:13:16] <gpled> hmm, looks like exchange did not like all that mail at once[16:13:18] <VaNNi> is there a way to disable the 2GB mailbox limitation?[16:13:28] <gpled> got a 421 code :)[16:15:08] *** hever has quit IRC[16:15:33] *** hever has joined #postfix[16:29:14] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[16:30:16] *** chasing`Sol has quit IRC[16:31:20] *** CMA has joined #postfix[16:34:53] *** cilly has quit IRC[16:37:33] *** hever has quit IRC[16:37:54] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[16:43:35] *** skymeyer has quit IRC[16:45:42] *** skymeyer has joined #postfix[16:47:14] *** miconof has quit IRC[16:54:51] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[16:55:09] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[16:59:25] *** aantix has joined #postfix[17:08:58] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[17:09:58] *** teddymills has quit IRC[17:10:52] *** digitalmortician has quit IRC[17:11:23] *** digitalmortician has joined #postfix[17:13:06] *** bluethundr___ has joined #postfix[17:13:37] *** sophokles1 has quit IRC[17:15:06] *** cilly has joined #postfix[17:17:26] *** gpled has left #postfix[17:23:54] *** paulez has quit IRC[17:27:07] *** paulez has joined #postfix[17:30:05] *** bluethundr_ has quit IRC[17:33:42] *** Soyo has joined #postfix[17:34:35] <Soyo> Anyone familiar with Cyrus for IMAP? I can't seem to find in the documentation where to extract it...[17:34:48] *** seekwill has quit IRC[17:35:12] *** teddymills has joined #postfix[17:35:26] <Zerberus> Soyo: extract what?[17:35:52] *** pingouin has quit IRC[17:36:00] <Soyo> cyrus-imapd-2.1.18t.ar.gz[17:36:30] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[17:36:34] <Soyo> *cyrus-imapd-2.1.18.tar.gz[17:36:55] <cpm> Soyo, there are no documents. I don't mean to be pissy or anything, really, but all cyrus admins are experts who don't need no stinking documentation. This is evidenced by the near complete lack of documentation.[17:37:16] <cpm> it works really well though.[17:37:27] *** t0mas has joined #postfix[17:37:40] <Soyo> That is not what I wanted to hear, but I'm glad it works well. Should I just put it in /etc?[17:38:37] *** Robbie_ has quit IRC[17:38:43] <Soyo> Or is there an easier way to install through the repository?[17:38:54] *** digitalmortician has quit IRC[17:39:25] <Zerberus> Soyo: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ || http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/WebHome || and yes the source comes with some docs[17:39:40] <Zerberus> Soyo: you intend to install cyrus-imapd?[17:39:49] <Zerberus> Soyo: then use what your OS ships with[17:39:49] <cpm> Soyo, sorry, I'm not signing up to be a cyrus installation helpdesk. Get the tar ball and extract it, and read what docs are there.[17:39:55] <cpm> tjat[17:40:05] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[17:40:12] <cpm> that's an even better idea. If using a distro based install, it might *just work*.[17:40:19] <Soyo> That's where I was looking before[17:40:42] <Zerberus> Soyo: and 2.1.18 is really outdated[17:40:56] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[17:40:58] <Zerberus> Soyo: which OS do you run?[17:41:11] <Soyo> Ubuntu 9.04[17:41:28] <Zerberus> Soyo: I bet it provides a package[17:41:34] <lunaphyte> what's with the cyrus/imap questions in here anyway?[17:41:48] <Soyo> Didn't know where else to go sorry[17:42:06] <lunaphyte> #cyrus comes to mind.[17:42:12] *** digitalmortician has joined #postfix[17:42:41] <Soyo> oh last time it was empty, but maybe cause of the netsplit[17:43:19] <Soyo> Well I'm going to look for a package and then hound them for answers thanks guys![17:43:35] <lunaphyte> what do you mean "look for a package"?[17:43:37] <Zerberus> Soyo: are you sure you want to start with cyrus-imapd? or would any IMAP server suffice?[17:44:06] <Soyo> something for beginners would be nice[17:44:11] <Zerberus> Soyo: prepare that cyrus-imapd is a beast and you need mighty powers[17:44:17] <lunaphyte> debian's main draw is that basically everything you could ever want to install is available as precompiled binaries in their packaging system. don't you know how to use it?[17:44:25] *** Skaag has quit IRC[17:44:47] <Soyo> sudo apt-get install?[17:45:01] <Zerberus> Soyo: check out dovecot, it is easier and the docs seem to be a bit better[17:45:04] <lunaphyte> among other things, yes.[17:45:30] <Soyo> dovecot, I will try that[17:48:42] <lunaphyte> of course, sudo is an ancillary concept outside of the actual program, which is apt-get (or others).[17:49:30] <Soyo> sudo is because I am too dangerous[17:49:45] <lunaphyte> eh, not really.[17:50:39] <Soyo> not really as in that's not what it is for, or not really because I am not so dangerous?[17:53:00] <lunaphyte> not really as in it doesn't make a difference. sudo lets you f*ck up just as much as being root does.[17:53:28] <Soyo> makes sense[17:54:52] *** karel_ has joined #postfix[17:55:03] <karel_> hi there![17:55:57] <karel_> is there any way in the world to prioritize postfix queue for delivering emails ?[17:56:07] <karel_> according to sender or recipien[17:59:28] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[17:59:53] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[18:00:09] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[18:00:18] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[18:01:46] <karel_> no one ?[18:02:06] <twobithacker> not to the best of my knowledge[18:03:11] <twobithacker> I suppose you could define more transports and map the messages you want to them, then configure those transports with shorter retry times or whatever, that might achieve a higher "priority" sort of thing[18:03:47] *** bluethundr_ has joined #postfix[18:04:40] <rob0> And that would be very ugly, and not scale well. What is the real world problem you are seeing?[18:07:47] *** tdi has joined #postfix[18:08:29] <tdi> hi, does anybody use mailogconvert.pl from awstats with postfix logs?[18:08:39] <tdi> i do not get errors, just 1 or 999[18:09:01] *** cbsd has quit IRC[18:11:25] <karel_> i see what you mean twobithacker[18:11:59] <karel_> but that's not really what we would need ... i guess i'll have to play with sendmail :'([18:13:08] *** bluethundr___ has quit IRC[18:14:58] *** Jonny0stars has joined #postfix[18:15:26] <Jonny0stars> Hello, probably a mailwrapper question really but should i have a /usr/sbin/smtp ?[18:16:40] <Jonny0stars> mailer.conf all point to it :-s[18:18:41] <Dominian> what is mailer.conf?[18:18:45] <Dominian> postfix has no mailer.conf[18:18:52] <Dominian> now rodes it have /usr/sbin/smtp by default[18:19:18] <Jonny0stars> in /etc/mail/mailer.conf[18:19:26] <Dominian> What OS is this?[18:19:42] <Jonny0stars> Linux (gentoo)[18:19:52] <seekwill> haha[18:19:54] <Dominian> I have no idea what mailer.conf's use is...[18:20:01] <Dominian> sounds like you have something else tied to postfix[18:20:24] <thumbs> seekwill: thanks for nothing yesterday[18:21:19] <seekwill> thumbs: What didn't I do?[18:21:35] <thumbs> seekwill: help me with postfix and mysql integration[18:22:06] <Jonny0stars> Dominian: Mailwrapper perhaps?[18:22:26] <Dominian> possibly[18:22:32] <Dominian> no idea.. as I don't run gentoo :)[18:22:48] <seekwill> thumbs: I didn't get any IM's![18:22:53] <Jonny0stars> Dominian: Oh i see, like things that work do you ;-P[18:23:29] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[18:24:01] <Jonny0stars> Thanks anyway :-)[18:24:59] <seekwill> thumbs: Did you get it working?[18:25:04] <thumbs> seekwill: yes, actually.[18:25:07] <seekwill> Good![18:25:14] <seekwill> thumbs: I don't use MySQL with Postfix though[18:25:27] <Jonny0stars> Dominian: could you do an ls /usr/sbin/s* for me see if there is any sendmails or smtp.postfix or something?[18:25:29] <thumbs> seekwill: it was postfix + courier + imap + pop3 + mysql + clamAV + amavisd[18:25:36] <seekwill> I wouldn't use courier[18:25:37] <thumbs> seekwill: + mysql[18:25:45] <thumbs> seekwill: why not?[18:26:01] <seekwill> Because rob0 sais n0[18:26:19] <thumbs> rob0: did you say n0?[18:26:25] <Dominian> Jonny0stars: I have /usr/sbin/postfix and /usr/sbin/sendmail[18:26:27] <Jonny0stars> thumbs: Dovecot is pretty easy to configure with sql[18:26:32] <Dominian> everything else runs out of /usr/libexec[18:26:33] <thumbs> Jonny0stars: too late :)[18:27:03] <Jonny0stars> thumbs: Saying that i dont know if it works yet heh[18:27:14] <thumbs> Jonny0stars: my solution works now.[18:27:15] <seekwill> I think Dominian's dad says he doesn't like Courier either[18:27:41] <Dominian> I hate courier[18:27:42] <Dominian> with a passion[18:27:44] <Jonny0stars> Dominian: What the hell is looking for /usr/sbin/smtp then[18:27:46] <thumbs> Dominian: heh[18:27:50] <thumbs> Dominian: I do too now.[18:28:00] <Dominian> Jonny0stars: no idea.[18:28:16] <thumbs> Dominian: it's a PITA to setup.[18:28:17] <Jonny0stars> maybe if i put a symlink to postfix :-S[18:28:39] <Dominian> thumbs: yeah.. I've used dovecot for a long while..courier is just a bitch.. not worth the time/effort.[18:28:55] <thumbs> it took me 14 hours to set up.[18:29:03] <rob0> n0[18:29:45] *** Pazzo has quit IRC[18:31:56] <rob0> Jon, I think you have a #gentoo question about that.[18:32:18] <rob0> !seen hparker[18:32:18] <knoba> rob0: hparker was last seen in #postfix 2 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 30 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <hparker> yw[18:32:47] <rob0> A fortnight and a day ago! Should I wake him up?[18:32:57] <dan__t> Hi![18:33:37] <dan__t> So I'm seeing the last appended Received: header on raw messages being that of UTC, exactly 7 hours ahead of our current time. We don't use UTC anywhere. What might be responsible for this?[18:33:51] <rob0> hparker: fifteen days of silence is enough! We have a #gentoo person here who is confused about Gentoo's mailer.conf.[18:34:00] <dan__t> Procmail is involved but as far as I can tell, it is not adding anything to the message itself.[18:34:32] <dan__t> If I send locally, i.e. echo 'Test from Dan' | mail -s 'Test from Dan' mailbox at domain dot com, the last Received header has the correct date.[18:34:33] <rob0> Dan, chroot/dev/log in the chroot without chroot/etc/localtime .[18:34:39] <rob0> !chroot[18:34:39] <knoba> rob0: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf, if not n , means that the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot, see !debug , !queue_directory and files in the examples/chroot-setup subdirectory of the Postfix source archive which show examples of a Postfix chroot environment on a variety of systems[18:34:44] <dan__t> Man[18:34:46] <dan__t> I owe you beer.[18:34:53] <rob0> yes you do :)[18:35:11] <rob0> You're Pacific time, I guess?[18:35:19] <seekwill> PST rocks[18:35:19] <rob0> that would explain the 7 hours.[18:35:21] <dan__t> MST.[18:35:31] <dan__t> Better yet, "Arizona Time"[18:35:34] <rob0> MST=PDT[18:35:39] <rob0> yup[18:35:45] <dan__t> Where are you at?[18:36:06] <rob0> NW Alabama, a small corner of "flyover country".[18:36:17] <dan__t> haha[18:36:42] <dan__t> 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd[18:36:42] <rob0> I'll wave at your airplane the next time you go to Atlanta.[18:36:57] <dan__t> I was in Atlanta in Feb.... flew to Miami for a few weeks for a job.[18:37:40] * rob0 breaks into song: "Back in the USSR", The Beatles[18:38:21] <dan__t> bahaha[18:38:58] <dan__t> I'm confused; it appears that I'm using chroot, but I do not have a proper chroot environment. I have no /var/spool/postfix/dev/log[18:39:02] <dan__t> No /var/spool/postfix/dev, even[18:39:17] <rob0> hmmm[18:40:08] <rob0> I thought chroot/dev/log was necessary, maybe it's not. Can't hurt to mknod it, tho.[18:41:10] *** clockspider_ has quit IRC[18:44:11] *** diqpib has joined #postfix[18:58:39] *** karel_ has quit IRC[18:59:03] <Jonny0stars> Does anyone have any examples of postfix configured with posgresql ?[19:00:19] <rob0> !pgsql[19:00:19] <knoba> rob0: "pgsql" : http://www.postfix.org/PGSQL_README.html : PostgreSQL support in Postfix[19:00:38] <rob0> probably can find examples on the mailing list.[19:01:00] <Jonny0stars> thanks knoba[19:01:08] <Jonny0stars> i mean rob0[19:01:21] * Jonny0stars likes to thanks the bots aswell :-)[19:02:08] <rob0> This bot appreciates it, although he/she/it is not programmed to say so. :)[19:05:06] <adaptr> knob0 ?[19:14:14] *** z0ran has joined #postfix[19:16:28] * hparker has never seen /etc/mail/mailer.conf ... Never used mailwrapper either[19:16:42] <rob0> !seen hparker[19:16:42] <knoba> rob0: hparker was last seen in #postfix 13 seconds ago: * hparker has never seen /etc/mail/mailer.conf ... Never used mailwrapper either[19:17:00] * rob0 pulled a lurker out of his hat![19:17:04] <hparker> I was napping, got like 4 hours sleep last night :P[19:17:12] <rob0> For my next trick ...[19:17:26] <adaptr> pul a hat out of a lurker![19:18:00] *** seekwill has quit IRC[19:19:39] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:20:56] * cpm lurks sans hat[19:21:16] * rob0 puts hparker's hat on cpm![19:21:22] <rob0> voila![19:22:01] <hparker> @:^/[19:22:07] * cpm yanks hparker's underwear up from behind, and pulls it over his head down to his eyes![19:22:09] * hparker needs to brush his hair now[19:22:17] <hparker> yikes![19:27:38] *** blackflag has joined #postfix[19:28:01] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[19:29:54] *** davertron has joined #postfix[19:30:43] *** paddy_dev has joined #postfix[19:31:26] <davertron> hi guys, this is probably more of a general mail question then a specific postfix question, so if you can recommend a better place to ask this, I'm all ears. I'm very curious about the STARTTLS command; if i telnet to one of my mailservers, i need to authenticate and use tls; how can i do this with telnet on the command line?[19:31:54] <adaptr> you... can't ?[19:32:01] <davertron> :)[19:32:02] <davertron> ok[19:32:03] <adaptr> not unless you can comfortably write in SSL[19:32:07] <paddy_dev> can I use postfix for only retrieving my mail so it is saved to a central location?[19:32:21] <adaptr> paddy_dev: you don't need postfix for that - use fetchmail or something[19:32:36] <davertron> so after you issue STARTTLS, it expects everything thereafter to be encrypted?[19:32:50] <paddy_dev> adaptr: what kind of software is fetchmail?[19:32:52] <rob0> davertron: man s_client[19:32:55] <davertron> i guess what i'm wondering what effect exactly the STARTTLS command has[19:32:59] <rob0> !s_client[19:32:59] <knoba> rob0: Error: "s_client" is not a valid command.[19:33:04] <davertron> is the secure channel established at that point?[19:33:32] <paddy_dev> never mind, i'l look it up. silly me[19:33:34] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[19:33:39] <adaptr> davertron: what effect ? if postfix accepts (i.e. supports) STARTTLS, then the cleint may start a TLS session in-band, i.e. on port 25[19:33:43] <adaptr> that's the effect[19:33:53] <davertron> ok[19:34:11] <rob0> !openssl[19:34:12] <knoba> rob0: Error: "openssl" is not a valid command.[19:34:20] <davertron> i guess i didn't know if there was supposed to be additionaly communication after the STARTTLS command, but before the secure channel was established[19:34:25] <adaptr> I really don't know why you would want to examine this any further, unless you need to debug it[19:34:46] <adaptr> in which case, rob0 has been trying to give you a link for 5 minutes now :)[19:35:01] <davertron> adaptr: yes, and i'm looking at that link[19:35:11] <adaptr> !starttls[19:35:12] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "starttls" is not a valid command.[19:35:14] <adaptr> bah[19:35:21] <adaptr> I, too, fail miserably[19:35:31] <davertron> adaptr: i'm trying to work with some existing php code that doesn't implement SSL/TLS[19:35:44] <davertron> adaptr: so i was trying to see how much work it would be for me to implement it[19:35:45] <adaptr> so.. don't require it[19:35:49] <davertron> adaptr: sounds like A LOT[19:36:01] <adaptr> that would depend on the code[19:36:11] <davertron> adaptr: not requiring it isn't an option[19:36:25] <davertron> i'd love to not require it[19:36:44] <rob0> I don't really think we need openssl and s_client factoids in the bot. I generally would recommend that people use a MUA like thunderbird for debugging, since it already knows how to speak ESMTP.[19:36:56] <adaptr> implementing STARTTLS in code that lacks it would be more trouble than just recoding it to use TLS[19:37:02] <rob0> (That's not relevant for Dave, I guess, anyway.)[19:37:21] <adaptr> davertron: why not add code that allows yuo to use it or not ?[19:37:29] <adaptr> easier to debug[19:37:31] <davertron> yeah, i'm not debugging our mail server unfortunately, i already know that's working fine :)[19:37:44] <davertron> adaptr: that's exactly what i want to do[19:37:57] *** F6F_ has joined #postfix[19:38:00] <rob0> I would first ask, is the encryption necessary? Size up the threat model and proceed accordingly.[19:38:03] <davertron> adaptr: but i obviously don't know enough about SSL/TLS[19:38:44] <rob0> If it can be done securely (enough) without TLS, why complicate things?[19:39:03] <davertron> rob0: not my decision to make[19:39:11] <davertron> rob0: i have the mail server, and i have to deal with it[19:40:15] <rob0> Looks like you have a lot of research ahead.[19:40:24] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[19:42:33] *** paddy_dev has left #postfix[19:44:26] <davertron> certainly seems that way[19:45:43] <davertron> s_client is very cool, btw[19:46:23] <davertron> i might be able to use it to do what i want[19:53:38] *** F6F has quit IRC[19:54:55] *** farchanjo has quit IRC[20:05:57] *** rpm has joined #postfix[20:13:07] <rpm> How do I run a filter for all outbound mail delivery for all domains, except for my local domains?[20:13:21] *** diqpib has quit IRC[20:14:50] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[20:14:52] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[20:15:35] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[20:16:34] *** bmeynell has joined #postfix[20:16:56] <rob0> First, understand that it's difficult for a MTA to tell the difference you see between "outbound" mail and other mail. All mail is first inbound, and then outbound, one way or another.[20:17:37] *** cilly has quit IRC[20:18:16] <rob0> Second, this is a FAQ, and most people asking it are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. If your users are generating enough mail to DoS your content filter, chances are, you have a big problem.[20:18:44] <bmeynell> my server crashed overnight and it seems now that I can't receive mail... I send messages but they just seem to get lost in the ether... how can I debug this? I restarted both dovecot and postfix[20:18:50] *** brsoft has quit IRC[20:19:06] *** loddafnir has joined #postfix[20:19:15] <bmeynell> i send from other accounts to my server accounts and they never arrive nor are any error messages returned to the originating accounts[20:20:15] <rob0> The best answer might be to set different handling in your content filter per network of origin, but you probably should be scanning user-submitted mail for viruses, if you have Windows users.[20:20:43] <rob0> Another answer is to use a policy service to check the authentication status of submitted mail.[20:21:24] <rpm> rob0, my content filter is actually only for stripping tiff attachments out and replacing them with pdf's.[20:21:40] *** klamanet has joined #postfix[20:22:09] <rob0> A lousy and complex answer is to use restriction classes and check_client_access / check_sender_access with FILTER results.[20:22:15] *** klamanet has quit IRC[20:28:20] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[20:34:02] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[20:34:10] *** second-nickname has joined #postfix[20:34:14] *** Zordrak has joined #postfix[20:34:21] *** second-nickname is now known as rolf-katt[20:35:43] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[20:36:26] *** Zordrak_ has quit IRC[20:36:55] *** rolfkatt has quit IRC[20:42:01] <dan__t> rob0, I ended up un-chrooting an smtpd process.[20:42:11] <dan__t> It wasn't provided to be useful in that state anyway.[20:44:40] *** jmedina has joined #postfix[20:56:31] *** jmedina has quit IRC[21:02:27] *** stephan48 has joined #postfix[21:02:51] *** denis has quit IRC[21:04:28] *** stephan481 has quit IRC[21:07:55] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[21:08:02] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[21:09:56] *** klamanet has joined #postfix[21:10:10] *** klamanet has quit IRC[21:10:35] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[21:15:12] *** fronix_ has joined #postfix[21:15:46] <fronix_> Ok i have setup my postfix server by following this guide here: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#step-9-authenticated-smtp[21:16:27] <fronix_> But he think is i can't send mail to and i can't send mail out to anyone and i can't access the smtp from Outlook either[21:16:45] <fronix_> iv doubel checked everyhing and i just can't figure out what the problem is[21:20:09] *** Guest39788 has quit IRC[21:22:00] *** cilly has joined #postfix[21:22:33] *** MasterOne has quit IRC[21:22:47] *** topic has quit IRC[21:23:06] *** Guest39788 has joined #postfix[21:23:19] *** hever has joined #postfix[21:23:58] *** karrotx has joined #postfix[21:24:08] <karrotx> those bastardos at spamhaus are forcing you to pay now[21:24:22] *** scylla has quit IRC[21:24:36] <seekwill> ?[21:25:10] <karrotx> well, "organizations" have to pay now[21:25:17] <twobithacker> that's nothing new[21:25:25] <karrotx> news to me[21:25:39] <karrotx> when did they say zen can *only* be used for private use?[21:25:43] <karrotx> the entire world is using that rbl[21:25:48] <seekwill> Link?[21:26:11] <karrotx> i received an email from kevino at mxtools dot com - no link[21:26:17] <twobithacker> We've been paying them for data feed access for years[21:26:37] <fronix_> did anyone of you guys se what i wrote?[21:26:38] <twobithacker> any large organization is requested to run their own local copy to take strain off their nameservers[21:26:47] <karrotx> ridiculous[21:26:57] <seekwill> Why?[21:27:01] <karrotx> we are no longer using zen, it doesn't do a good enough job to warrant money[21:27:08] <seekwill> lol[21:28:16] <seekwill> oh my[21:28:36] <seekwill> http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/answers.lasso?section=Glossary#233 -> ISPs, you are in a position to detect those back-end spam cannons by checking where traffic flows are coming from.[21:28:40] <seekwill> I can't believe they said that![21:28:45] <twobithacker> well, if you're not using spamhaus, then yeah, it makes very little sense to pay for the data feed access[21:29:33] <karrotx> i've been using spamhaus - i'm sure there's a better rbl out there if you're paying[21:29:55] <seekwill> Let us know if you find one[21:37:11] *** jra has joined #postfix[21:38:06] <twobithacker> sadly, running an DNSBL costs money. The bandwidth for all those tiny little DNS packets adds up, and you can't really sell advertising space on them. They have to make money somehow.[21:38:55] <seekwill> lol[21:39:30] <seekwill> In each RBL block "Sorry, you've been blocked by Spamhaus. This block brought to you by: Viagra"[21:40:31] <jduggan> lul[21:44:03] *** Muhis has quit IRC[21:45:13] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:48:37] <karrotx> seekwill: not a bad idea - pitch it to spamhaus[21:48:44] <karrotx> it would be a win win for spammers[21:51:14] <seekwill> What email did you get from mxtools?[21:51:42] <seekwill> Looks like they are a reseller for them, and just sending you spam![21:53:37] <karrotx> seekwill: ya, just spam? interesting[21:53:56] *** bpgoldsb has joined #postfix[21:54:56] <bpgoldsb> Has anyone ever seen any articles for setting up postfix as, essentially, a transparent mail proxy which will be able to archive any messages sent across it, but still deliver to the destination address/server?[21:55:41] <seekwill> It wouldn't be completely transparent because of the received headers. From an end user point of view it could be[21:55:58] <bpgoldsb> I can sacrifice that.[21:55:58] <seekwill> You'd set up your always_bcc option, and then use a relayhost[21:56:23] <bpgoldsb> I thought about always BCC, but it would be nice if it could still go through the delivery system.[21:56:32] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[21:56:41] <seekwill> What do you mean?[21:57:06] <bpgoldsb> Well, always bcc, iirc, will always deliver to, say, foo at example dot com[21:57:23] *** Scurz has joined #postfix[21:57:24] <Scurz> hi[21:57:31] <bpgoldsb> It would be great if I could make it go into virtual, where it will deliver to seperate boxes.[21:57:35] <seekwill> ah[21:57:50] <bpgoldsb> I suppose, thinking about it now, I could use some kind of post-delivery filtering like procmail/etc[21:57:54] <seekwill> I do not know how[21:58:30] <Scurz> I'm installing postfix (the conf comes from another server) with courier and I get that error during auth : "LOGIN FAILED", and I don't find from where the errors comes, would you have any ideas ?[21:58:31] <bpgoldsb> Or writing my own content filter to deliver it locally[21:58:48] <Scurz> (password and login are ok)[21:59:24] <Scurz> "Authentication FAILED: Operation not permitted" with "authtest user@domain password"[22:01:14] *** cilly has quit IRC[22:01:16] <Scurz> nobody ? :)[22:05:25] *** cilly has joined #postfix[22:09:12] <Scurz> going to ask on #debian[22:09:23] *** cilly has quit IRC[22:11:59] <BlackNet> hmmm[22:12:09] <BlackNet> i seem to be getting spam via pdf attachments[22:15:35] *** bluethundr_ has quit IRC[22:19:28] *** stephan48 has quit IRC[22:20:09] *** bluethundr_ has joined #postfix[22:20:52] *** eanxgeek_ has quit IRC[22:26:21] <fronix_> wtf why am i getting this error: Error: There is no database support in your PHP setup[22:26:37] <fronix_> i do have mysql support...[22:26:53] <seekwill> What does PHP have to do with Postfix?[22:27:05] <Scurz> no idea for my problem ?[22:28:35] <fronix_> oh sry im installing postfixadmin[22:29:07] <thumbs> fronix_: you need to ask ##php[22:29:21] <fronix_> nvm i know why[22:29:27] <seekwill> thumbs: Not really[22:29:35] <seekwill> thumbs: #postfixadmin might be a better place[22:29:35] <thumbs> seekwill: yes really.[22:29:39] <thumbs> OK.[22:30:03] <thumbs> seekwill: I like to send all the clueless to ##php, however.[22:30:09] <seekwill> I do too![22:30:23] <thumbs> seekwill: it makes me happy to annoy the helpers in that channel, however, clueless they are too.[22:30:29] <seekwill> haha[22:30:35] <seekwill> Not all the helpers are[22:32:03] <karrotx> help for pelp[22:33:20] <seekwill> We hate pelp![22:34:47] <fronix_> ok, i can get help here about postfixadmin[22:34:57] <thumbs> no.[22:35:06] <thumbs> we don't support postfixadmin[22:35:15] <jra> admin postfix we do, postfixadmin we do not.[22:35:19] <fronix_> im still in this channel[22:35:32] <thumbs> fronix_: and?[22:35:41] <fronix_> nvm i must of wrote wrong[22:35:53] <fronix_> wrote /j postfix instead of postfixadmin[22:36:51] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[22:37:07] *** hever has quit IRC[22:37:34] <Scurz> pff my problem is hard to fix :/[22:37:42] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[22:40:51] <karrotx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvFh95Yg6M[22:40:52] <karrotx> yikes[22:41:01] <karrotx> also, wrong channel, my apologies[22:41:23] * thumbs kicks karrotx[22:41:33] <karrotx> ouch?[22:41:50] <thumbs> oh, I don't have ops here.[22:42:07] <karrotx> good thing too, yous a jerk![22:43:17] *** bluethundr__ has joined #postfix[22:44:10] *** F6F_ has quit IRC[22:46:25] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[22:48:56] *** Scurz has left #postfix[22:58:59] *** bluethundr_ has quit IRC[22:59:54] *** bluethundr__ has quit IRC[23:02:12] *** Robbie_ has joined #postfix[23:02:43] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[23:07:52] *** davertron has quit IRC[23:11:10] *** hugo has quit IRC[23:30:46] *** seekwill has quit IRC[23:35:33] *** Robbie_ has quit IRC[23:35:52] *** jra has left #postfix[23:36:17] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[23:41:01] *** Soyo has quit IRC[23:42:05] *** Roconda has quit IRC[23:42:37] *** Robbie_ has joined #postfix[23:47:41] *** Flomar has quit IRC[23:50:37] *** Robbie_ has quit IRC[23:52:06] *** eanxgeek_ has joined #postfix[23:52:32] *** rpm has quit IRC[23:52:43] *** rpm has joined #postfix[23:55:49] *** DrPepper has quit IRC[23:56:12] *** fronix_ has quit IRC[23:57:26] *** fronix has joined #postfix