August 12, 2009 
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August 12, 2009 [00:00:44] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[00:03:41] <pickcoder> hm.. SA isn't adding the X-Spam headers now..[00:03:48] * pickcoder b0rked somethign[00:05:46] <seekwill> It's not spam[00:08:37] <pickcoder> all my mail R sPaM[00:09:01] <seekwill> Send it to KB1JWQ[00:09:30] <KB1JWQ> pickcoder: STOP SPAMMING ME![00:09:48] *** Kronuz has joined #postfix[00:09:52] <Kronuz> hello[00:10:09] <rafaelgp> pickcoder yeah, thats what is happening to me.. i got Amavis with SA enabled but there are no X-Spam headers[00:10:42] <pickcoder> and YahooMail is b0orked[00:10:47] <Kronuz> hey, I'm having a problem that I can't figure out... I tried sending an email to user at somedomain dot com and I see postfix is trying to sending it to user at www dot myowndomain.com instead[00:10:53] <Kronuz> what could be causing this?[00:11:53] <Kronuz> (the weird thing is this is only happening for some domains)[00:12:01] <Kronuz> ... it seems[00:13:32] <pickcoder> rafaelgp: I was seeing non-spam X-Spam headers until I tweaked something[00:13:41] <pickcoder> I think it was the trusted networks[00:13:53] *** seekwill has quit IRC[00:13:55] <pickcoder> SA on my internal mail server may be removing them[00:14:07] * pickcoder broke seekwill's IRC client too[00:17:30] <rafaelgp> pickcoder pastebin wont let me paste the headers because it thinks its spam, so i`ll put it somewhere.[00:18:19] <pickcoder> hm.. it's not that[00:18:27] <pickcoder> there are duplicate X-scanned headers[00:19:28] <rafaelgp> http://www.rafaelp.com.br/amavis_and_SA.txt[00:19:42] <rafaelgp> this is a regular non-spam message that arrives my mailbox[00:19:57] <rafaelgp> and there are no X-Spam headers[00:27:32] <pickcoder> well I got dkim verification to show in the headers[00:27:40] <pickcoder> unfortunately it's softfailing on valid keys[00:27:53] * pickcoder lose[00:27:59] <rafaelgp> but where are you tweaking your config? amavis, postfix or SA?[00:28:29] <pickcoder> I enabled verification in the edge server[00:28:31] <pickcoder> under amavis[00:29:28] <rafaelgp> i`ve got that enabled, like i showed you earlier today[00:29:58] <pickcoder> well when I figure out why it's breaking maybe I can help[00:29:59] <pickcoder> :)[00:30:01] <rafaelgp> and on mail.log I get a hit count, like Hits: 1.10 or something, but im not sure if thats from SA[00:30:49] <pickcoder> looks like bellsouth.net is using s1024 as the selector but when I do a TXT lookup there is no public key[00:30:58] <pickcoder> maybe it's my DNS?[00:31:13] <pickcoder> can someone do dig -t TXT s1024._domainkey.bellsouth.net[00:33:09] <rafaelgp> Aug 11 19:15:32 storm amavis[29866]: (29866-03) Passed CLEAN, [209.85.211.185] [209.85.211.185] <fuhsdfihui at gmail dot com> -> <rafael at rafaelp dot com.br>, Message- <c6d7e5a20908111515h315d9f5dv16104070e4c3a354 at mail dot gmail.com>, mail_id: G8EvOfSjVjFo, Hits: 1.81, size: 2158, queued_as: 00486E4085, 11209 ms[00:33:37] <rafaelgp> thats what goes to mail.log.. i guess `Hits` comes from SA[00:33:58] *** brancal has joined #postfix[00:35:47] *** madrescher has quit IRC[00:36:07] *** _infidel has joined #postfix[00:37:43] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[00:37:47] <pickcoder> heh.. looks like that selector is in their DNS[00:37:56] <pickcoder> what's the point of signing the mail if there's no pubkey[00:38:03] <AndrewKT_> can i place a restriction classes name at the end of smtpd_recipient_restrictions? I think I have some emails falling off the bottom and not getting kicked into the class i expect them in[00:38:57] <pickcoder> s/is/is not/[00:41:04] <rafaelgp> pickcoder any ideas on how to add that header? also, mail marked as spam comes from the postmaster and the original mail is attached instead of just delivering the mail with **** SPAM **** before subject[00:41:41] *** Kronuz has left #postfix[00:42:18] <pickcoder> look at report_safe[00:42:53] <pickcoder> as well as rewrite_header[00:42:58] <pickcoder> it should be in the local.cf[00:42:59] <pickcoder> under SA[00:45:34] <rafaelgp> rewrite_header Subject ***SPAM***[00:45:41] <rafaelgp> yeah, and i put report_safe as 0 now[00:46:10] *** SpyK01xx has joined #postfix[00:46:15] <SpyK01xx> hello people.[00:46:34] <rafaelgp> pickcoder but there are some spam reaching the mailboxes that SA didnt recognize.. how could i 'teach' it new rules or whatsoever?[00:47:01] <SpyK01xx> could somebody help help? I've inserted this line: smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender = yes in my main.cf[00:47:24] <SpyK01xx> but it is not rejecting the fake users.[00:47:49] <SpyK01xx> it's like that postfix daemon is jumping this line.[00:47:54] <pickcoder> rafaelgp: I think I found the issue[00:47:56] <pickcoder> hold on[00:48:10] <SpyK01xx> I've no idea what could be happing.[00:48:56] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[00:50:37] <SpyK01xx> [rafaelgp]: sa-learn makes spamassassin to learn.[00:57:33] <SpyK01xx> thankx[00:57:34] <SpyK01xx> bye[00:57:36] *** SpyK01xx has quit IRC[00:57:55] <pickcoder> rafaelgp: one of the issues is the fact that @local_domains_maps and/or local_domains_acl is missing[00:58:02] <pickcoder> but I still can't get the headers to show[00:58:09] <pickcoder> and I can't spend any more time on it tonight[00:58:55] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[01:09:50] *** _infidel has quit IRC[01:10:46] *** DonAlex has joined #postfix[01:14:04] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[01:14:58] *** fran^ has joined #postfix[01:19:30] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[01:20:48] *** hooch has joined #postfix[01:28:03] *** SARGuy has quit IRC[01:31:53] *** francisr has quit IRC[02:03:16] *** githogori has quit IRC[02:05:21] *** pingouin has quit IRC[02:05:50] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[02:13:27] <tessier__> Hmm...how is it possible that by specifying always_bcc = my email that I would suddenly be getting two copies of everything? I have used this before and not received two copies. If I comment out the always_bcc I get no copies.[02:13:55] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[02:14:05] <tessier__> ah[02:14:11] <tessier__> I am running a content filter. That's covered in the docs.[02:14:21] <tessier__> Always have to ask on the channel *just* before I figure it out myselves.[02:14:28] <tessier__> If it weren't for you guys I'd never solve anything! :)[02:21:30] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:26:01] *** p3rror has quit IRC[02:38:07] *** brancal has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** Muhis has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** eye69 has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** madduck has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** Xjs|moonshine has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** BlackNet has quit IRC[02:41:56] *** s0ber has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** _nalle has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** Zerberus has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** CaptObviousman has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** Hyperi has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** Tykling has quit IRC[02:41:57] *** AllenJB has quit IRC[02:42:33] *** madrescher has quit IRC[02:44:40] *** kfo has quit IRC[02:44:40] *** Captain has quit IRC[02:44:40] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[02:44:41] *** standon has quit IRC[02:44:41] *** Vog has quit IRC[02:44:41] *** Roconda_ 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*** Zygo has joined #postfix[03:03:17] *** dotplus has joined #postfix[03:04:47] *** UdontKnow has joined #postfix[03:06:55] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[03:35:34] *** Daviey has quit IRC[03:45:02] *** ramoni has quit IRC[03:49:54] *** udk has joined #postfix[03:50:02] *** UdontKnow has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** lennard has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** fran^ has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** jens_ has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** magyar_ has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** Guest10327 has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** Nockian has quit IRC[03:53:26] *** _UsUrPeR_ has quit IRC[03:54:17] *** timotiCK has joined #POSTFIX[03:55:09] <timotiCK> Where do I configure for secure IMAP in Postfix[03:55:27] <timotiCK> I'm using Postfix and Horde for webmail[03:56:17] *** fran^ has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** _UsUrPeR_ has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** jens_ has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** magyar_ has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** lennard has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** Guest10327 has joined #postfix[03:56:17] *** Nockian has joined #postfix[03:56:19] *** muh2000__ has joined #postfix[03:57:03] <rafaelgp> timotiCK postfix is just the MTA, you need to set up an imap server and enable imaps[04:03:53] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[04:04:29] *** GoGi has quit IRC[04:04:43] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[04:06:18] <timotiCK> rafaelgp: Package imap-2006k-1.1mdv2008.1.i586 is already installed[04:07:29] <thumbs> timotiCK: congratulations[04:08:19] <timotiCK> imaps is working but not for port 993[04:08:22] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[04:08:26] <thumbs> timotiCK: congratulations[04:08:35] *** DonAlex has quit IRC[04:08:43] <timotiCK> thumbs: thanks[04:17:23] <lunaphyte> !imap[04:17:24] *** hever has quit IRC[04:17:24] <knoba> lunaphyte: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[04:19:30] <timotiCK> !dovecot[04:19:30] <knoba> timotiCK: "dovecot" : http://www.dovecot.org/ : IMAP/POP3 server software with emphasis on security; recent versions can also provide SASL AUTH for Postfix 2.3+.[04:20:10] <lunaphyte> i think you'll find the consensus here is that dovecot would be a good choice[04:20:36] <thumbs> agreed[04:22:34] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[04:24:51] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[04:28:58] *** rafaelgp has quit IRC[04:29:32] *** jtaji has joined #postfix[04:30:35] *** mwalling has joined #postfix[04:31:44] *** mwalling has left #postfix[04:49:14] *** clockspider has joined #postfix[04:56:47] *** YaP has quit IRC[05:08:31] *** clockspider_ has joined #postfix[05:08:57] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[05:09:02] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[05:13:58] *** clockspider has quit IRC[05:21:53] *** clockspider_ has quit IRC[05:31:43] *** clockspider has joined #postfix[05:41:08] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[05:49:02] *** jens__ has joined #postfix[05:49:30] *** jens_ has quit IRC[05:58:00] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[06:01:02] *** Zerberus has quit IRC[06:01:16] *** Zerberus has joined #postfix[06:13:31] *** yajith has joined #postfix[06:20:35] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[06:21:27] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[06:22:12] <timotiCK> !postfix[06:22:13] <knoba> timotiCK: "postfix" : The Postfix MTA from http://www.postfix.org/. If you have no idea what Postfix is then you have probably chosen the wrong channel. :)[06:33:55] *** SpiceMan has left #postfix[06:54:53] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[06:59:52] *** yajith1 has joined #postfix[07:03:28] *** guy has joined #postfix[07:03:33] <guy> !transport_maps[07:03:33] <knoba> guy: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.[07:03:48] <guy> !transport(5)[07:03:50] <knoba> guy: Error: "transport(5)" is not a valid command.[07:04:00] <clockspider> man 5 transport[07:13:01] <guy> no idea.[07:13:09] <guy> what should I found there..[07:15:22] *** nb has joined #postfix[07:20:15] *** yajith has quit IRC[07:24:47] <guy> clockspider.../[07:26:02] *** yajith1 has quit IRC[07:26:57] <clockspider> you have to have postfix installed to have the transport man page[07:27:24] <clockspider> !bcc_maps[07:27:24] <knoba> clockspider: Error: "bcc_maps" is not a valid command.[07:29:01] *** yajith has joined #postfix[07:29:19] <guy> I have bbc_maps in my webmin panel.[07:29:27] <guy> though, I don't understand how to set mapping.[07:29:43] <clockspider> !recipient_bcc_maps[07:29:43] <knoba> clockspider: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[07:33:02] <guy> what the f does that have to do with what I asked?[07:36:23] <clockspider> everything[07:38:38] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[07:40:16] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[07:42:19] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[07:47:55] *** yajith has quit IRC[07:48:01] *** yajith has joined #postfix[07:48:18] *** yajith has left #postfix[07:52:04] *** tjikkun has quit IRC[07:52:04] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[07:52:04] *** Rockj has quit IRC[07:52:04] *** higuita has quit IRC[07:52:04] *** schmilblick has quit IRC[07:53:07] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[07:53:07] *** schmilblick has joined #postfix[07:53:07] *** Rockj has joined #postfix[07:53:07] *** tomocha6 has joined #postfix[07:53:07] *** higuita has joined #postfix[07:54:58] *** F6F has joined #postfix[07:56:23] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[08:03:37] *** burnersk has joined #postfix[08:05:32] *** burnersk has quit IRC[08:08:36] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[08:08:47] *** gerhard7 has joined #postfix[08:11:46] *** F6F has quit IRC[08:13:27] *** timotiCK has left #POSTFIX[08:29:59] *** sophokles has joined #postfix[08:30:31] *** eye69 has quit IRC[08:48:07] *** ralfgro_ has joined #postfix[08:51:21] *** klem has quit IRC[08:51:24] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:53:30] *** LinuxCode has joined #postfix[08:54:43] *** mohshami has joined #postfix[08:58:28] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[08:58:53] *** ralfgro has quit IRC[08:59:55] <mohshami> hey guys, I'm facing a "lost connection with mail.ITA.GOV.OM[62.231.235.3] while sending message body" errors, tried every workaround available, disabled mtu discovery, set mtu to 1000, disabled window scaling, disabled PIPELINING, and even set the timeout to 10 minutes. Any idea what I'm missing?[09:03:48] *** sjrussel has quit IRC[09:05:12] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:06:35] *** deadpigeon has quit IRC[09:07:12] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[09:12:58] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[09:14:05] *** Skaag has quit IRC[09:21:03] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[09:24:05] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:24:15] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:31:21] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[09:31:24] *** klem has joined #postfix[09:33:22] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:34:05] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:34:22] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:36:36] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:40:04] <lkthomas> does anyone using clustered file system on email servers ?[09:45:41] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[09:51:00] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[09:52:31] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[09:54:52] *** wdp_ has joined #postfix[09:55:33] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:57:22] *** Robbie__ has joined #postfix[09:57:47] *** wdp has quit IRC[10:01:57] *** js__ is now known as js_[10:02:49] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:02:56] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:10:20] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:11:01] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:11:47] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:11:57] *** LinuxCode has quit IRC[10:12:05] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:13:02] *** thunderstrike has joined #postfix[10:16:03] *** sophokles has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** eye69 has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** Rockj has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** higuita has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** tjikkun has quit IRC[10:16:59] *** schmilblick has quit IRC[10:17:42] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[10:17:42] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[10:17:42] *** schmilblick has joined #postfix[10:17:42] *** Rockj has joined #postfix[10:17:42] *** tomocha6 has joined #postfix[10:17:42] *** higuita has joined #postfix[10:17:43] *** madrescher has quit IRC[10:19:28] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[10:21:32] *** LinuxCode has joined #postfix[10:24:14] *** tjikkun has quit IRC[10:27:25] *** LinuxCode has quit IRC[10:28:23] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[10:32:02] *** flighttr has joined #postfix[10:32:16] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[10:32:39] <flighttr> hi[10:33:05] *** Pinchiukas has joined #postfix[10:33:09] <Pinchiukas> Where can I find the mail queue?[10:33:17] <flighttr> mailq[10:33:42] *** flighttr is now known as dinopsys[10:34:01] *** LinuxCode has joined #postfix[10:34:38] <dinopsys> anyone known expert info for header_checks[10:34:50] <Pinchiukas> Why does all mail from my machine have "root at all-in-one dot localdomain" as the FROM address?[10:36:39] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:38:12] <sysmonk> because you send from root, and because your $myorigin is is all-in-one.localdomain[10:43:01] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[10:43:02] *** Signum_ is now known as Signum[10:46:03] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[10:46:51] <Zerberus> dinopsys: no expert info in your manpage?[10:48:39] <Pinchiukas> sysmonk: what should I set $myorigin to? mydomain.com?[10:48:46] <dinopsys> i have using header_chekcs and i am good this point but i need more info[10:49:06] <Zerberus> dinopsys: which specific info?[10:49:32] <dinopsys> i am thinking; maybe i run header_checks with mysql[10:51:30] <Pinchiukas> Can I somehow empty the mailq? I'm afraid my relay will ban me for misbehaving.[10:52:42] <dinopsys> postsuper -d ALL[10:53:01] <dinopsys> Pinchiukas what is your system?[10:53:53] <Pinchiukas> My system?[10:54:56] <dinopsys> postfix version and dist[10:55:39] <Pinchiukas> Oh. Gentoo linux, postfix-2.5.7.[10:56:40] <dinopsys> i am using debian but maybe i can help you[10:56:50] <dinopsys> now, what is your first problem?[10:57:16] <Pinchiukas> My first problem is myself. :) I have a mail server on a wireless wimax link that has a dynamic IP. :)[10:57:42] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:57:46] <dinopsys> : )[10:57:47] <Pinchiukas> The range got blacklisted so now I relay the mail via the ISP.[10:58:17] <dinopsys> have you sasl?[10:58:43] <Pinchiukas> I have the dovecot-sasl USE flag enabled for the package.[10:59:33] <Pinchiukas> Why do you ask?[10:59:51] <Pinchiukas> I think I'm not relaying spam if that's what you're asking. :)[11:00:19] <dinopsys> ok :)[11:01:41] <Pinchiukas> It's a range of dynamic IPs so shit happens.[11:02:09] *** AcTiVaTe has joined #postfix[11:02:50] *** GoGi has quit IRC[11:02:50] *** Rockj has quit IRC[11:02:50] *** higuita has quit IRC[11:02:50] *** eye69 has quit IRC[11:02:50] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[11:02:50] *** schmilblick 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<cite> !yepony[11:51:53] <knoba> cite: Error: "yepony" is not a valid command.[11:51:55] <cite> !yespony[11:51:55] <knoba> cite: "yespony" : http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/Uncle_Tractor/pony.jpg[11:55:27] *** yajith has joined #postfix[11:56:29] *** SARGuy has left #postfix[12:06:02] *** kmq has quit IRC[12:06:11] *** cichlid has joined #postfix[12:06:53] *** cichlid02 has joined #postfix[12:07:00] *** cichlid has quit IRC[12:07:48] *** cichlid02 has quit IRC[12:12:04] *** damcgett has joined #postfix[12:14:57] *** sed__ has quit IRC[12:16:18] *** sed_ has joined #PostFix[12:22:23] *** F6F has joined #postfix[12:29:50] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[12:30:23] <cpm> buxw'[12:30:28] <cpm> nice even[12:50:10] *** LinuxCode has quit IRC[12:52:26] *** Kako has joined #postfix[12:56:41] *** GoGi has quit IRC[12:58:37] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:10:07] *** opzoli has joined #postfix[13:10:13] *** opzoli has left #postfix[13:10:55] *** yajith has quit IRC[13:13:47] *** yajith has joined 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What is the error saying? Google doesn't trust me? I don't trust Google or even I don't trust myself?[14:41:58] <sysmonk> webtango: if you want it to be as a real setup, you can create a subdomain, i.e. postfix.yourdomain.com[14:42:04] <sysmonk> or you can just use localhost or whatever[14:42:28] *** gerhard7 has quit IRC[14:42:37] <sysmonk> VoiDeT: you haven't published the whole line, so my answer is just a guess: you don't trust google[14:43:00] <sysmonk> i believe you have 'smtp.gmail.com' set somewhere in your config (relayhost?)[14:43:19] *** fran^ has quit IRC[14:43:42] <VoiDeT> sysmonk: http://pastie.org/581245 is the log[14:44:00] <VoiDeT> sure, sysmonk this was previously working for a few weeks now, with no problems at all[14:44:11] <VoiDeT> it was only until a few hours ago i saw this error coming up[14:44:26] <sysmonk> yup, it's just as i said, you don't trust gmail[14:44:39] <sysmonk> VoiDeT: maybe they changed the cert[14:44:48] <webtango> sysmonk: so if my server is called new server i would set up the hostname to be newserver.postfix.domain.com and set up a subdomain for postfix.domain.com to point to my machine?[14:45:30] * cpm adds the sysmonk CA[14:46:25] <VoiDeT> sysmonk: any ideas on how to look out for their new one?[14:48:55] *** uqlev has quit IRC[14:49:36] <rob0> Better question, is why are you checking certificates anyway?[14:49:41] <rob0> !tls[14:49:43] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : Short for Transport Layer Security (RFC2246). It adds an additional layer of encryption to protocols such as SMTP, POP3 or IMAP to improve security during transmission over the Internet. TLS features in Postfix are documented here: http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html[14:51:52] <VoiDeT> rob0: I'm trying to use gmail as my relay host[14:53:15] *** burnersk has joined #postfix[14:55:08] <rob0> Did some HOWTO somewhere tell you that you should verify their certificate? If so, what are you doing (planning to do) with this bit of information?[14:57:35] <VoiDeT> rob0: sure, i'm running through this tutorial: http://www.marksanborn.net/linux/send-mail-postfix-through-gmails-smtp-on-a-ubuntu-lts-server/[14:57:59] <VoiDeT> I just wanted to send mail from my server through gmail smtp[15:02:48] * cpm chooses the rob0 certificate[15:04:55] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has joined #postfix[15:05:01] <JiMMyJaKAzz> lo all?[15:08:08] *** cilly has quit IRC[15:08:57] *** cilly has joined #postfix[15:08:59] <rob0> VoiDeT, see TLS_README.html#client_cert_key[15:10:04] *** AndrewKT_ has quit IRC[15:10:08] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:16:38] <VoiDeT> reading now thanks rob0[15:17:54] *** wdp has quit IRC[15:23:19] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:28:02] *** spq` has quit IRC[15:28:40] *** spq` has joined #postfix[15:29:57] *** VoiDeT has quit IRC[15:30:45] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[15:37:43] *** thunderstrike has quit IRC[15:38:42] *** dinopsys has quit IRC[15:51:01] *** diqpib has joined #postfix[15:57:26] *** AndrewKT has joined #postfix[15:58:36] *** wdp has joined #postfix[16:02:00] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:03:58] <webtango> how can i best start to figure out why i cant connect remotely to my postfix from other machines on my network. my remote mail client just tells me connection refused to mail server[16:04:58] <Section1> telnet + tcpdump[16:05:07] <rob0> first, a WAG for you:[16:05:13] <rob0> !inet_interfaces[16:05:13] <knoba> rob0: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.[16:05:31] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has quit IRC[16:05:32] <rob0> If that doesn't fix it, see /topic, "when asking ..."[16:05:38] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has joined #postfix[16:06:40] <webtango> i got it set up for interfaces = all[16:06:47] *** cilly has quit IRC[16:07:01] *** cilly has joined #postfix[16:09:48] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[16:10:43] <webtango> and i turned off my firewall to rule out that being an issue[16:12:40] <js_> spamassassin or dspam, which one do you prefer?[16:16:36] <rob0> Neither, TBH, I don't really need content filtering after HELO checks and Zen.[16:17:02] <rob0> If I did do content filtering (I have set it up before) I would use amavisd-new and SA.[16:19:41] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[16:20:46] <webtango> when i go to set up my email client after i think postfix is installed is the mail server is the default setting of it a pop or imap server?[16:21:43] <webtango> im getting a 800ccc0e error when tryin to connect to it through imap[16:21:53] *** Banshee1 has joined #postfix[16:22:55] <samix> webtango: you trying to connect to postfix via imap ?[16:23:17] <rob0> !imap[16:23:18] <knoba> rob0: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.[16:23:37] <rob0> Try all you want, it won't happen.[16:23:51] <webtango> yes[16:24:21] <webtango> sso im missing a peice between postfix and the mail client then[16:24:39] <webtango> ?[16:24:46] <samix> webtango: you are missing the entire postfix and imap and pop thing[16:25:23] <samix> postfix is an smtp server and imap is a server used to acess mails on the mail server they are not related as you probably think[16:25:47] <rob0> Does the factoid not answer the question? We can change it if necessary.[16:26:22] <thumbs> webtango: you're missing a piece of your brain, I think[16:27:58] *** jtrm has joined #postfix[16:29:24] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[16:29:26] * rob0 sticks thumbs in webtango's brain[16:29:51] <thumbs> rob0: :([16:29:55] * thumbs smashes rob0[16:30:49] * rob0 imitates Sir Mick, singing, "Under my thumbs ..."[16:30:59] <thumbs> rob0: oh, that's funny.[16:31:25] <rob0> Funnier than being in webtango's brain?[16:31:31] <thumbs> much.[16:31:39] <rob0> I disagree![16:31:47] <thumbs> see, you ruined my day[16:31:54] *** deadpigeon has joined #postfix[16:35:38] *** _infidel_ has joined #postfix[16:40:57] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[16:41:24] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has quit IRC[16:43:37] <thumbs> rob0--[16:47:26] *** _infidel has quit IRC[16:48:06] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[16:48:33] * rob0 is now known as rob-1[16:48:40] <thumbs> hahaha[16:48:46] <thumbs> you have an answer for everything[16:49:12] <rob0> Only because I'm annoying.[16:49:32] <thumbs> there, you said it.[16:49:38] <thumbs> I was thinking it all those years.[16:50:14] <rob0> Some things go without saying.[16:52:58] * jeev feels like a doofus[16:53:05] <jeev> data with 600k orders lost.[16:53:18] <lennard> you probably should then[16:53:38] <jeev> imagine how many servers there are in the world, imagine seeing a website and wanting to do the same.. imagine asking someone who owns a datacenter giving 20 servers and 4 of them are the web/database servers to the website yous aw years back that you wanted to do[16:53:47] <jeev> imagine losing that data after fniding it on dsomeone's drive[16:53:47] <jeev> ;/[16:55:27] <jeev> hate my life[16:55:32] * robtone_ plays John Lennon - Imagine[16:55:39] <jeev> seriously[16:57:00] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[16:57:02] <wdp> die in a depression[16:57:04] <wdp> i'd say[16:57:05] <wdp> however[16:57:06] <wdp> hi :>[16:57:20] <jeev> nope[17:03:17] <jeev> i think i have the data elsewhere[17:03:56] *** polaru has quit IRC[17:10:10] *** U-2069 has joined #postfix[17:10:29] *** U-2069 has left #postfix[17:19:21] *** ananke has joined #postfix[17:24:33] *** UQlev has quit IRC[17:30:13] *** ananke has left #postfix[17:33:49] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[17:35:10] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[17:35:31] *** Robbie__ has quit IRC[17:37:13] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[17:39:53] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[18:00:56] *** kale has joined #postfix[18:03:21] *** wdp has quit IRC[18:03:44] *** jtrm has quit IRC[18:03:59] *** _infidel_ has quit IRC[18:07:23] *** kale has left #postfix[18:07:55] *** clockspider has quit IRC[18:18:22] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[18:23:36] *** hparker has joined #postfix[18:23:45] *** cwright_ is now known as cwright[18:24:04] *** jmedina has joined #postfix[18:29:15] *** Skaag has quit IRC[18:29:57] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[18:30:23] *** neuro_damage has joined #postfix[18:30:45] *** sjrussel has joined #postfix[18:31:04] *** Skaag has quit IRC[18:34:40] *** neuro_da1age has quit IRC[18:36:16] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[18:36:20] *** mefiX has joined #postfix[18:36:27] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[18:36:38] <mefiX> anyone here with experiences using Sophos AV with Amavis?[18:36:42] *** KnightWhoSaysNI is now known as UdontKnow[18:37:35] <mefiX> i am trying to use Sophos with amavis, there are already config-lines for Sophos in /etc/amavis/conf.d but they don't seem to fit my needs, i don't have a program called "sweep", what i have is savscan[18:39:36] *** UdontKnow is now known as e[18:42:11] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[18:47:34] *** e is now known as \0[18:49:54] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[18:50:39] *** ek has quit IRC[18:56:33] *** GoGi has quit IRC[18:57:31] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[19:00:16] *** _UsUrPeR_ has left #postfix[19:03:26] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[19:08:04] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[19:08:43] *** _infidel has joined #postfix[19:11:14] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[19:17:47] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[19:19:35] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[19:22:57] *** webchaos has joined #postfix[19:30:17] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|WRK[19:33:28] *** webtango has quit IRC[19:49:14] *** Pinchiukas has joined #postfix[19:49:54] <Pinchiukas> I installed a version of postfixadmin with domain alias support, but I think I forgot to add the .cf file in /etc/postfix. What should the file be named?[19:51:29] <KB1JWQ> Pinchiukas: Completely arbitrary. Just make sure you call it the same thing in the config.[19:51:40] <KB1JWQ> Pinchiukas: That was a gift, by the way; postfixadmin isn't supported in here. :)[19:51:47] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[19:51:50] <Pinchiukas> Oh. :)[19:55:30] *** Fallenou_ has joined #postfix[19:57:24] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[19:57:47] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[19:57:53] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[20:03:04] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[20:03:40] *** burnersk has quit IRC[20:08:21] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[20:14:40] *** spectre has joined #postfix[20:21:34] *** samix has quit IRC[20:21:42] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[20:24:52] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[20:26:30] *** xpeed has joined #postfix[20:27:58] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[20:28:10] *** gebi_ has joined #postfix[20:29:27] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[20:32:02] *** uqlev has quit IRC[20:37:24] <Flomar> hello[20:37:27] *** AbsoluteBeginner has joined #postfix[20:38:34] *** teddymills has quit IRC[20:38:46] *** gebi has quit IRC[20:39:34] *** xpeed has quit IRC[20:39:42] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[20:43:30] *** webchaos has quit IRC[20:43:34] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has joined #postfix[20:43:44] *** webtango has joined #postfix[20:43:44] <JiMMyJaKAzz> lo all[20:44:03] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[20:45:06] <JiMMyJaKAzz> postfix locally is fine... but when trying to remote test to port 25, 'open connection to host on port 25 connect failed'.[20:45:12] *** kale has joined #postfix[20:45:45] <kale> hi, i'm about to install postgrey, i'd like to know how long my emails will be delayed?[20:46:04] <spectre> i just did it today[20:46:13] <spectre> at first the delay is around an hour, maybe less[20:46:16] <spectre> with default settings[20:46:48] <spectre> from watching logs it seems pass-through time gets faster after that[20:47:09] <kale> how much spam do you "loose"[20:47:21] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[20:47:23] <spectre> i believe it discovers a triplet, saves it in memory, and auto passes subsequent matches[20:47:36] <seekwill> Just skip greylisting. Just makes people angry[20:47:42] <spectre> not sure, i haven't seen any rejections/deferred mails yet since we have a few pretty effective RBL's before it[20:47:45] <seekwill> Ask Dominian![20:48:02] *** xpeed has joined #postfix[20:48:16] <spectre> so the RBL's have been catching everything so far[20:48:18] *** SARGuy has quit IRC[20:48:29] <kale> spectre: what is RBL?[20:48:39] <spectre> basically a blacklist administered by a third party[20:48:43] <spectre> zen.spamhaus is one[20:48:46] <spectre> spamcop is another[20:48:46] <Flomar> aff greylist i almost lost my job when i tried to use[20:48:47] <Flomar> rsrs[20:48:56] <spectre> what happened with greylisting?[20:49:00] <spectre> i've just implemented today[20:49:03] <spectre> seems alright[20:49:42] <Flomar> zen.spamhaus.org[20:49:46] <kale> i just think waiting an hour for an email is too long[20:49:52] <Flomar> kale, agree[20:50:11] <Flomar> users get angry, mainly if you have corporate users doing business[20:50:55] <kale> so what other options do i have to sort out spam?[20:51:03] <spectre> RBL's, HELO checks[20:51:14] <spectre> and others (i'm a bit of a newb)[20:51:33] <spectre> not sure what tarpits are but i've heard a bit about them[20:51:39] <kale> what is HELO check? checking server has its FQDN name?[20:51:46] <spectre> yeah, that's one[20:52:00] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[20:52:05] <spectre> i had a problem with HELO FQDN checks here because ...[20:52:06] <spectre> well[20:52:08] <spectre> i work in uganda[20:52:10] <kale> spectre: a tarpit does not prevent spam, it just gives spammers extra work[20:52:18] <spectre> and people here SUCK at configuring servers[20:52:30] <spectre> and DNS[20:52:48] <kale> here in my country large companies also is unable to configure a proper FQDN for their servers[20:52:50] <spectre> ended up having to whitelist the government agencies and other businesses[20:52:50] *** scylla has quit IRC[20:54:01] <spectre> zen.spamhaus.org is a great RBL[20:54:03] <spectre> start with that[20:54:12] *** gebi_ is now known as gebi[20:54:25] <kale> spectre: how do i add an RBL ?[20:55:20] <JiMMyJaKAzz> bee back... :)[20:55:21] *** JiMMyJaKAzz has left #postfix[20:55:32] <spectre> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =[20:55:33] <spectre> permit_mynetworks,[20:55:33] <spectre> reject_unauth_destination,[20:55:33] <spectre> reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,[20:55:33] <spectre> check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:60000[20:55:33] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[20:55:39] <spectre> main.cf[20:55:45] *** kushalsejwal has joined #postfix[20:55:52] <spectre> the reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org is the line you're interested in[20:56:03] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[20:56:52] *** eanxgeek_ has joined #postfix[20:57:43] <kushalsejwal> Hello everybody, I am a complete beginner, learning to setup a mail server. Installed Postfix in my ubuntu system, during the installation it asked for server name which I named it as "ubuntu", is that fine?[20:57:54] * kale tries RBL[20:58:05] <spectre> yeah do a reload on your mail server and watch the logs[20:58:12] <spectre> if you're high volume you should see blocks right away[20:58:24] <spectre> cat /var/log/mail.log|grep zen.spam|wc -l[20:58:31] <kale> i'll just watch my cpuload, i have clamscan running 24/7 ...[20:58:48] <spectre> nah it shouldn't affect that much[20:59:15] <spectre> kushalsejwal: depends on what 'server name' meant[20:59:34] <spectre> did you configure it as a smart-host or internet facing system?[20:59:35] *** cpm has quit IRC[20:59:39] <kale> should do, i have a problem that amavis will not use clamd's socket, so it uses clamscan instead, takes like 25 secs to check an email. means that clamscan runs all the time[21:00:00] <spectre> yeah i've got an issue where i did an upgrade to some packages and i think perl broke my clamav scan[21:00:03] <kushalsejwal> spectre: I selected internet site[21:00:04] <spectre> on my postfix server[21:00:07] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[21:00:57] <seekwill> heh[21:01:13] <spectre> kushalsejwal: ubuntu is fine so long as your DNS record matches ubuntu.whatever[21:01:15] <Dominian> ask me what?[21:01:17] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[21:01:23] <kale> spectre: i believe it is the same issue here, but rebuilding perl did not solve it. right now i just need a "quick fix"[21:01:31] <spectre> ahh[21:01:34] <spectre> i get errors like this[21:01:35] <kale> so my server is able to do other stuff too[21:01:48] <kushalsejwal> spectre: I am following this link http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ but I don't know much about DNS, domains :([21:01:59] *** markl_ has quit IRC[21:02:10] <spectre> Wed Aug 12 22:05:38 2009 [20926] warn: rules: failed to run CLAMAV test, skipping:[21:02:11] <spectre> Wed Aug 12 22:05:38 2009 [20926] warn: (Can't locate object method "check_clamav" via package "Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus" at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 2647.[21:02:11] <spectre> Wed Aug 12 22:05:38 2009 [20926] warn: )[21:02:11] <spectre> Wed Aug 12 22:05:38 2009 [20926] warn: (?:(?<=[\s,]))* matches null string many times in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/\G(?:(?<=[\s,]))* <-- HERE \Z/ at /usr/share/perl/5.10/Text/Wrap.pm line 47.[21:02:16] <spectre> and another similar line[21:02:25] <spectre> over and over[21:02:35] <spectre> those perl packages exist[21:02:38] <spectre> i can read the manfiles, etc[21:02:40] <kushalsejwal> spectre: now when I am configuring it, the tutorials says to put my server name in " sudo vi /etc/mailname " what shall i put ?[21:03:09] <spectre> try pico, it's easier for a newbie[21:03:30] <spectre> sudo pico /etc/mailname[21:03:34] <spectre> and make it whatever[21:03:35] <spectre> like[21:03:38] <spectre> ubuntu.yoursite.com[21:04:03] <kushalsejwal> okay[21:04:07] <kale> got it! Client host [66.158.186.92] blocked using zen.spamhaus.org[21:04:36] <spectre> see? easy :O[21:04:42] <spectre> try this[21:04:56] <spectre> cat /var/log/mail.log|grep zen.spam|wc -l[21:05:05] <spectre> will tell you how many spam messages that RBL blocked[21:05:07] * kale tails it[21:05:08] <kushalsejwal> spectre: then my myhostname= mail.example.com would be mail.ubuntu.yoursite.com?[21:05:23] <spectre> ubuntu.yoursite.com[21:05:35] <spectre> it'd only be mail.ubuntu.yoursite.com if you wanted it to be that[21:05:46] <spectre> it can be fuckyou.yoursite.com if you want it to :P[21:05:55] <spectre> it's your call but the DNS entries have to match[21:06:02] <spectre> otherwise other systems will block you[21:06:22] <seekwill> Some people shouldn't be setting up mail servers :D[21:06:35] <spectre> haha[21:06:41] <kushalsejwal> spectre: okay so should I stick to to one name and follow the rest tutorial?[21:06:47] <spectre> yep[21:06:50] *** tjz has quit IRC[21:07:02] <kale> spectre: that will give me dns queries as well ;-) but 48 messages blocked by now[21:07:07] <kushalsejwal> seekwill: I know I am bad at it but I am just learning and trying all these new terms :)[21:07:16] <spectre> ah, gotcha kale[21:07:18] <spectre> yeah[21:07:20] <spectre> nice[21:07:36] <kale> spectre: any other suggestions?[21:07:45] <seekwill> kushalsejwal: Hosting email services is a lot harder than people think. It's not like other types of services[21:08:13] <spectre> kale, i only get one line per block[21:08:15] <spectre> in the log[21:08:29] <spectre> don't discourage him seekwill ;D[21:08:43] <kale> spectre: i might have turned the log level up, due to some debugging i did.[21:08:43] <spectre> nah, kale, besides SA and clam/amavisd[21:08:49] <seekwill> spectre: I only speak the truth[21:08:58] <spectre> i'm running postgrey[21:09:01] <spectre> installed today[21:09:05] <seekwill> :([21:09:09] <spectre> so i can't comment on that yet[21:09:15] <kale> so now i use spf, amavis, razor, rbl, clamav and SA[21:09:16] <kushalsejwal> seekwill: I know but nobody learns without trying, and I am doing the same[21:09:18] <spectre> seems ok but we'll see how the delay goes over[21:09:27] <seekwill> kushalsejwal: ok![21:09:44] <seekwill> I didn't point anyone out in particular[21:09:55] <spectre> right-on kushalsejwal ;D[21:10:01] <kushalsejwal> seekwill: okay :)[21:10:13] <seekwill> Just that most people don't understand that hosting email services is not a one time "yum/apt-get" install[21:10:29] <seekwill> It is a much harder service to administer than say httpd[21:10:39] <kushalsejwal> seekwill: I understood it today, you are right[21:10:56] <seekwill> kushalsejwal: Host your email with gmail!!!!!!![21:11:53] *** makerc has joined #postfix[21:11:53] *** uqlev has quit IRC[21:11:54] <kale> can i make postfix take a look at the header and reject if the to field does not belong to its domain?[21:12:06] <seekwill> You really don't want to do that[21:12:36] <kale> seekwill: because of multiple receivers?[21:12:47] <seekwill> kale: For a lot of reasons, but yes, that is one[21:13:05] <seekwill> Postfix already "checks" your envelope recipients[21:13:39] <kale> seekwill: yes, but i still get mail, which has a different domain in the TO field[21:13:45] <seekwill> So?[21:14:08] <seekwill> I can guarantee you'll loose legit mail if you implement that[21:14:17] *** kushalsejwal has left #postfix[21:14:35] <seekwill> Run with your RBLs for a little while. Then come back and see what's the most pressing issue[21:14:59] <seekwill> Oh yeah, learning environment, read RFC 5321 and RFC 5322[21:15:05] <kale> seekwill: ok, i'll take your word for it[21:15:07] <seekwill> Since people want to learn, THATs how you learn[21:15:18] <seekwill> kale: No, don't take my word for it. Understand WHY it doesn't work[21:15:26] <seekwill> Read those RFCs. You want to learn ,right??[21:15:43] *** eanxgeek_ has quit IRC[21:15:53] <kale> seekwill: time is an issue, but yes i want to learn. right now my focus is getting the load off the server[21:16:04] <seekwill> Bad time to learn![21:16:07] <seekwill> RBLs help with that[21:16:09] *** eanxgeek_ has joined #postfix[21:16:14] <seekwill> Read RFCs next[21:16:19] *** \0 is now known as UdontKnow[21:16:28] <kale> seekwill: true, you can only learn when you're at rest.[21:16:28] <seekwill> If you don't understand how mail works, you won't know how to reduce your load[21:20:37] <kale> trouble with linux is that when you set up something, it just works, and does for years, then when you need to make a change, you've completely forgotten what you did in the first place[21:20:52] <seekwill> That's not Linux's fault[21:21:17] <kale> i just have to relearn[21:21:24] <seekwill> And actually, you'll be playing around with postfix's configuration "a lot"[21:21:33] <seekwill> So you won't have to worry about "fire and forget"[21:23:02] <kale> have been running with postfix since 2003, this install/setup is 2 years old, and i suddenly got some amavis<->clamd socket problem. thats where i'll start i guess[21:23:14] <seekwill> heh[21:25:09] *** Fallenou_ has quit IRC[21:26:11] *** eanxgeek_ has quit IRC[21:28:01] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[21:28:12] <kale> does postfix use /etc/hosts.deny?[21:31:48] <spectre> not sure[21:31:54] <spectre> i assume so[21:31:58] <spectre> as it's a system-wide thing[21:37:25] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[21:38:22] *** eanxgeek has joined #postfix[21:41:08] *** Muhis has quit IRC[21:51:04] *** kfo_ has joined #postfix[21:52:23] *** sepski has joined #postfix[21:56:11] *** pingouin has quit IRC[22:05:16] *** webtango has quit IRC[22:08:09] *** kfo has quit IRC[22:08:09] *** kfo_ is now known as kfo[22:08:45] <jluedke> given a vanila conf, how many smtpd procs do you think a modern dual core, dual proc machine should be able to handle?[22:11:41] <seekwill> You will probably run into RAM or disk IO issues first[22:12:27] <sysmonk> jluedke: 100[22:15:58] <twobithacker> Anyone using postscreen in production?[22:17:07] <seekwill> sysmonk: Ever redo your performance test running real-world tests?? :P[22:18:02] <sysmonk> seekwill: nope, i completely forgot about it[22:18:07] <sysmonk> too much other stuff to do[22:18:12] <seekwill> Better things to do![22:25:45] *** F6F has quit IRC[22:26:34] <jluedke> so 200 procs with 10k+ pcre rules prob. pushing the limit ehh.[22:28:19] <Dyson> pcre isn't as processor hungry as one might think[22:28:49] <Dyson> depending on the use-case you'll run into a memory i/o bottleneck with pcre much earlier than you've got a cpu loaded :)[22:29:20] <Dyson> but if you run a bayesian filter and/or virus scanner that might actually get your cpu loaded...[22:32:55] <sysmonk> vanilla conf doesn't have pcre rules included, and has 100 procs limit on smtpd[22:32:58] <sysmonk> :P[22:33:17] <jluedke> Yeah.[22:33:26] <jluedke> i know[22:33:46] <jluedke> just figured I would give best case :)[22:34:03] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[22:34:13] <Banshee1> hey guys.. one more question from something i asked about yesterday...[22:34:34] <Banshee1> we have a postifx installation running for outbound only (one way)...[22:34:41] <Banshee1> and doing some tests via telnet...[22:34:47] <Banshee1> i am able to do this[22:34:51] <Banshee1> telnet localhost 25[22:35:05] <Banshee1> and make the MAIL FROM: a non local address[22:35:13] <Banshee1> and send to another non-local address[22:35:22] <Banshee1> and we are not an open relay[22:35:31] <Banshee1> postfix is very clear on how to test for that[22:35:42] <cite> Banshee1: 127.0.0.1 is in $mynetworks, and you have permit_mynetworks somewhere in smtpd_mumble_restrictions[22:35:48] <Banshee1> i can post segments of my main.cf if you like[22:35:50] <seekwill> Banshee1: What is the question?[22:36:06] <cite> seekwill: Why didn't I read the BASIC_README before coming to #postfix?[22:36:07] <Banshee1> cite just answered it[22:36:14] <seekwill> cite: lol[22:36:18] <seekwill> Yes he did[22:36:32] <cite> o'rly?[22:36:48] <Banshee1> wow.. thats cool... i just setup postfix with ldap and virtual_maps too[22:37:00] <Banshee1> nice you guys make fun of simple questions that escape some people[22:37:03] <Banshee1> cheers[22:37:11] <cite> Yeah. I feel so good now.[22:45:38] *** SARGuy has joined #postfix[22:46:40] *** SARGuy has quit IRC[22:46:53] *** AbsoluteBeginner has quit IRC[22:48:47] *** spectre has quit IRC[22:48:54] *** makerc has quit IRC[22:49:06] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[22:52:23] *** keizer2 has joined #postfix[22:57:58] *** Flomar has quit IRC[23:03:21] *** stephan48 has quit IRC[23:04:16] <Banshee1> so if homeboy and homegirl could curb their ego's for a moment... i have an additonal question[23:05:38] <Banshee1> when removing removing the entry where i had permit_mynetworks the ability to forge a MAIl FROM to a non-local domainis no longer possible[23:06:34] <Banshee1> but now... i am unable to send email with a valid MAIL FROM to any address[23:06:41] <Banshee1> i get the "relay access denied"[23:06:53] <Banshee1> i am using LDAP to authenticate[23:06:54] <Dyson> that's expected behavior :p[23:07:34] <Banshee1> and i read in the docs that check_sender_access is able to verify MAIL FROM as valid via my LDAP[23:07:55] <Dyson> that's correct. But that doesn't give you relay access[23:08:01] <Banshee1> and i have a functioning ldap-transport map[23:08:44] <Banshee1> that works for other users.. excample: when i want to route internal to internal users directly to their respective maildrops without having to go outside to public and then back in via our inbounds[23:08:46] <Banshee1> you dig?[23:09:11] <Banshee1> according to very lovely cite and seekwill[23:09:17] <Banshee1> removing permit_mynetworks[23:09:21] <Banshee1> would alleviate my issue[23:09:36] <Banshee1> perhaps i am missing something that they neglected to mention/[23:09:50] <Dyson> yes, you do...[23:10:02] <Dyson> 1st do not test with connections that originate from localhost[23:10:06] *** keizer2 has quit IRC[23:10:08] <Banshee1> ok[23:10:11] <Banshee1> can do[23:10:13] *** keizer2 has joined #postfix[23:10:43] <Dyson> 2nd go read about smtpd_*_restrictions[23:11:10] <Dyson> default is to allow mail from $mynetworks and mail that's targeted at a local user[23:11:17] <sysmonk> 0th - read the topic, pastebin the stuff.[23:14:04] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[23:15:34] *** keizer2 has quit IRC[23:16:29] * pickcoder still waiting for someone to fix the power[23:17:49] <seekwill> I fucking hate Barracuda[23:18:24] <KB1JWQ> seekwill: LANGUAGE! THERE ARE KIDS HERE![23:18:37] <thumbs> seekwill: watch your language.[23:18:46] * pickcoder hates electrical storms and "estimated" times for power issue resolution[23:19:01] <sysmonk> KB1JWQ: there are a few adults here too, but only a few[23:19:02] <sysmonk> ;)[23:19:03] <seekwill> Kids should be in school learning maths[23:19:06] <KB1JWQ> /kickban seekwill You're a pottymouth![23:19:11] <sysmonk> oh, and you're not one of them! :)[23:19:37] <sysmonk> pickcoder: isn't that what's generators are for? :P[23:20:01] <sysmonk> seekwill: oh, and why do you hate your employer?[23:21:19] <seekwill> "we've had at least one report of Barracuda filtering out our mail as spam (apparently because the domain fails rDNS?)." <-- Because they are checking _ALL_ of the received headers[23:21:24] <pickcoder> sysmonk: that ship sailed a long time ago... with a decent fight[23:22:03] <pickcoder> we don't lose power often enough to justify it, was basically the end decision[23:22:50] <pickcoder> people are sent home and we just shut everything down.. like right now[23:23:01] * pickcoder waits in a hot office for someone to replace a transformer[23:23:25] <pickcoder> what's most annoying is that we've got 1/2 phase so some things will work some won't[23:26:45] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[23:26:46] <sysmonk> we have a few diesel generators out here, we can't be out-of-power[23:26:53] <sysmonk> oh, there goes pickcoder[23:26:53] <sysmonk> ;P[23:27:21] * seekwill steals sysmonk's diesel fuel![23:28:45] <sysmonk> ;([23:29:03] <sysmonk> k, i'm out, have a nice day-without-electricity[23:34:46] <seekwill> I have electricity...[23:34:52] <seekwill> I've got all the fuel![23:38:10] *** uqlev has quit IRC[23:42:17] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[23:46:27] *** kfo_ has joined #postfix[23:53:55] *** Section1 has quit IRC[23:54:14] *** madrescher has quit IRC[23:54:39] *** madrescher has joined #postfix