July 31, 2009 
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July 31, 2009 [00:01:55] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[00:05:42] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[00:07:56] *** hparker has quit IRC[00:11:42] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[00:12:26] *** madrescher has quit IRC[00:12:51] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[00:16:07] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[00:17:40] *** jmoncayo has quit IRC[00:26:07] *** doolittlework has joined #postfix[00:26:13] <doolittlework> hi all[00:26:20] <doolittlework> hope someone can helpme[00:26:30] <doolittlework> i am new to mail stuff[00:26:36] <doolittlework> anyone active?[00:30:57] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[00:31:39] *** AndrewKT_ has joined #postfix[00:33:24] <KB1JWQ> No seekwill. How peaceful.[00:33:41] <KB1JWQ> doolittlework: Don't ask to ask, just ask.[00:36:56] <rob0> !ask[00:36:57] <knoba> rob0: "ask" : If you have a question, just ask. Precise questions lead to precise answers. Vague descriptions of your problem will get you nowhere. See also: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc[00:37:10] <rob0> (That URL is in /topic too.)[00:37:29] *** hparker has joined #postfix[00:37:29] <rob0> Did you chase seekwill away?[00:37:47] <rob0> oh god ... there goes the neighborhood ...[00:42:02] *** AndrewKT has quit IRC[00:42:51] *** loddafnir has left #postfix[00:49:30] <lunaphyte> hey, good news everyone, i just lost my fing job![00:50:12] * rob0 has been unemployed awhile ... welcome to the f-old![00:51:32] <lunaphyte> were you laid off?[00:52:02] <rob0> well I was laid off a long time, rehired, and then just unceremoniously replaced.[00:52:16] <lunaphyte> i'm sorry man. that sucks.[00:52:17] <rob0> "sorry, we don't need your services"[00:52:30] <lunaphyte> back to the same place?[00:52:30] <cite> good evening[00:52:36] <rob0> I'm fine ... how 'bout you?[00:52:57] <rob0> cite! Sorry we missed that beer![00:53:15] <rob0> cite, it's past your bedtime! :)[00:53:18] <cite> rob0: Yeah, me too, really. But things went so badly back then...[00:53:58] <cite> Next time our boss hires an executive aide who can't yet shafe himself, I will intervene.[00:54:07] <cite> Or is it "shave"?[00:54:09] <cite> nvm[00:54:48] <rob0> um ... actually ... I have a bit of a problem with razors as well ;)[00:54:53] <cite> ;-)[00:55:07] <rob0> :-)>>>[00:55:15] <cite> Well, the good thing now they fired me is that I finally got a new job.[00:55:37] <cite> And tell you what: It has absolutely NOTHING to do with cars.[00:57:11] <rob0> I take it, that's good?[00:57:27] <cite> Oh yes, it is.[00:57:35] *** jtaji has joined #postfix[00:57:48] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[01:03:21] *** war9407 has quit IRC[01:10:04] *** terje has joined #postfix[01:10:22] <terje> hi, I'm having a problem directing root's e-mail to an external account.[01:10:37] <terje> I've updated /etc/aliases and run newaliases[01:10:59] <terje> the line in /etc/aliases is root: myemail at domain dot com[01:11:07] <terje> where myemail... is my real e-mail addy.[01:12:45] <terje> so doing 'echo "testing" | mail root'[01:12:55] <terje> should send me an e-mail to my address but[01:13:04] <terje> it tries to deliver it to root locally.[01:13:12] <terje> I've also tried sticking a .forward file in there.[01:13:18] <terje> or, in root's home dir[01:13:20] <terje> no workey.[01:13:21] <rob0> see /topic, "when asking"[01:13:37] <TomHome> hey guys[01:13:39] <terje> yes, I've been checking the logs[01:13:50] <terje> tries to deliver mail locally to root, as I just stated.[01:14:07] <cite> rob0: I will invent a device that stabs people who ask Postfix questions without providing postconf -n output in the eye. Through the internetzzzz![01:14:29] <rob0> cite, I'll buy you a beer if you do. :)[01:15:08] <terje> hrmm. okie.. I feel like i'm getting the message.[01:16:18] <terje> http://pastebin.com/m6227169d[01:17:45] <cite> Uh oh. 2.2.[01:18:14] <cite> What were the default values of append_at_myorigin and append_dot_mydomain in 2.2.?[01:18:49] <terje> http://pastebin.com/d4d5231ff[01:18:53] <terje> that includes the logs[01:18:54] <cite> terje: What's the output of postconf append_at_myorigin append_dot_mydomain?[01:19:12] <cite> terje: Forget what I said.[01:19:15] <terje> [root@vm1 ~]# postconf append_at_myorigin append_dot_mydomain[01:19:15] <terje> append_at_myorigin = yes[01:19:15] <terje> append_dot_mydomain = yes[01:19:25] <cite> terje: mydestination doesn't include $mydomain[01:19:28] <rob0> mydomain is not in mydestination ... simple as that[01:19:49] <terje> ok, great, thanks![01:19:51] <rob0> Thank you for playing. Next contestant?[01:20:07] <rob0> Nice rDNS name BTW.[01:20:15] <rob0> vampira.scare.org[01:20:29] <terje> >:)[01:21:23] <cite> Hell yeah. You can ratelimit outgoing mail with _destination_cuncurrency_limit and _destination_rate_delay.[01:21:30] <rob0> Is that honestly seriously Postfix 2.2.8? The 2.2 branch is EOL'ed.[01:21:44] *** Vince421 has joined #postfix[01:21:46] <cite> That's one mail every 60 seconds for you![01:22:00] <rob0> 2.2 will only get "serious" security fixes, IIUC.[01:23:01] <terje> and indeed that did it, thanks again.[01:23:30] <KB1JWQ> lunaphyte: Sorry to hear it.[01:26:03] *** terje has left #postfix[01:26:41] <rob0> I guess EOL wouldn't scara vampire.[01:27:09] <rob0> Vampires are by definition, past EOL![01:27:39] <cite> I almost laughed ;-)[01:28:18] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[01:28:41] <rob0> Yeah, sometimes I'm almost funny. It's scary![01:29:06] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[01:31:38] <doolittlework> here goes hope this makes sence,, i have a copy of linux that has postfix preinstalled, i need to forward mail from one of the applications that uses postfix to on the server to a microsoft exchange server, that will deliver the mail on my local network, i have currently setup a smtp mail account to get postfix to authenticate with my external mail server.[01:32:00] <doolittlework> i can send mail to other addresses but not to my local addresses[01:33:29] *** hparker has quit IRC[01:34:14] <cite> Nope. that didn't make much sense.[01:34:39] *** Vince42 has quit IRC[01:36:28] <doolittlework> lol[01:37:03] <doolittlework> i basicaly want to setup postfix to forward mail to exchange server[01:37:33] <doolittlework> do i ust need to add relayhost= exchange server address?[01:37:43] <doolittlework> can it be that simple?[01:37:50] <doolittlework> surely not[01:39:02] <doolittlework> if i understand the mailing thingy the problem must be on my exchange server for i can send mail from postfix to say*** at gmail dot com no problem[01:39:35] <doolittlework> but to my local mail addresses no luck[01:39:38] <cite> doolittlework: So your Postfix box is connected to the internet?[01:40:09] <cite> And Exchange is in your corporate intranet?[01:40:57] *** magyar has quit IRC[01:51:08] <doolittlework> yes, i have setup a smtp account with my isp, also tested it with google, i am bassicaly linking postfix mail server to isp, then send mail to local lan, but to no avail[01:54:37] *** madrescher has quit IRC[01:55:05] *** bronb has joined #postfix[01:55:28] <lunaphyte> KB1JWQ: thanks for the sympathy. hopefully things will work out. it was a pretty big shock.[01:55:38] <lunaphyte> i've got to run for the moment. bbl.[01:55:44] <cite> doolittlework: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#backup[01:57:18] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[01:58:22] <bronb> hey guys, I'm running some sort of a mailing list - its members are from the same origin, which means there are 2 local ISPs of these clients, who getting 'hit' ...I was wondering whats the correct way to approach that? make timers for the clients who come from the same ISP, that way there will be big intervals between each of the messages?[01:59:10] <bronb> or I shouldn't even bother, and ISPs should handle the 'load' of a mailing list activity?[02:00:29] <cite> Nuke them til they puke.[02:00:34] <cite> That's actually a serious advice.[02:00:48] <bronb> cite: was that directed to me? :)[02:00:52] <cite> Yes.[02:01:06] <bronb> I dunno about nukes ...[02:01:07] <rob0> Don't just do something! Sit there!![02:01:24] <cite> If they don't have rate limiting in place, as long as your mails reach your subscribers INBOXes, everything is fine.[02:02:15] <cite> In my experience nobody really cares about lare mail volumes.[02:02:40] *** ldp has joined #postfix[02:02:45] <bronb> well you'd have to forgive me, I really don't know about whats appropriate and whats not[02:03:08] <ldp> Whenever I try to send an email, postfix keeps re-prompting me for the password.[02:03:17] <bronb> so basically you're saying, if you ran a mailing-list - you wouldn't address this manner if everything seems to 'work' ?[02:03:19] <ldp> I've set it up with dovecot and sasl.[02:03:32] <cite> bronb: Exactly.[02:03:40] <ldp> I have no idea *why* this is happening.[02:04:13] <bronb> cite: for some reason I thought it will be considered abusive to send them at-once, but ok - I'd take your word for that :)[02:04:56] <cite> bronb: Those ISPs, ar those "big players"?[02:05:04] <cite> Like, Hotmail, Gmail?[02:05:26] <bronb> cite: no I meant actual local ISPs, there are hotmail/gmail too .. but very low amount of those[02:05:44] <bronb> why? their agenda is different?[02:05:56] <cite> bronb: Can you give us a number? 200 mails? 2000?[02:07:00] <bronb> cite: currently its very very low ... less than 200 members - but they want to join groups soon, into -1- topic ... so few mailing lists will be joint together .. will raise it upto ~2k or so[02:07:15] <cite> bronb: Those numbers should barely register.[02:07:44] <bronb> I'm not sure what 'barely register' means? 'low capacity' ?[02:07:54] <cite> They won't even notice them.[02:08:03] <bronb> oh, then great :)[02:08:36] *** Zblakany has quit IRC[02:09:06] <ldp> anyone\/[02:09:09] <ldp> ?[02:09:24] <bronb> ldp: I'm no expert, but logs could shed some light[02:09:41] <ldp> alright[02:10:56] *** ldp has quit IRC[02:11:25] *** ldp has joined #postfix[02:11:44] *** muh2000 has joined #postfix[02:12:04] <rob0> !yahoo[02:12:04] <knoba> rob0: "yahoo" : Yahoo and other providers throttle inbound connections in an attempt to reduce spam. If you're a big operator, talk to them about whitelisting. If not, just wait for the retry, your mail eventually goes through. For bulk mail issues this contact is helpful: <mail-abuse-bulk at cc dot yahoo-inc.com>[02:12:09] <rob0> bronb: ^^[02:13:04] <bronb> rob0: its relevant to my capacity?[02:13:05] <rob0> Note, a mailing list should typically be handled as *one* DATA with numerous RCPTs, in a single SMTP session.[02:13:25] <cite> rob0: With appropriate settings of smtp_mx_session_limit and yahoo:destination_concurrency_failed_cohort_limit, there throttling fails more often than it succeeds :-P[02:13:49] <cite> bronb: No way.[02:14:05] <cite> rob0: s/there/their/[02:14:09] <cite> 2am here, sorry.[02:14:18] <cite> and it's fscking hot.[02:14:32] <bronb> rob0: I think I'm using mailing list to describe something else ... its more like a global message when one of the operators have an announcement to the members, their replys are going strictly to that operator and not to the whole list[02:15:27] <cite> bronb: You really don't have to worry. I'm running a list with about 7500 subscribers, and I never ran into any issues, not even with Yahoo.[02:15:53] <bronb> cite: you know, better safe than sorry :)[02:16:17] <bronb> cite: I just used facebook to send 5 messages, got a warning that I'm abusive and next them I might get banned ...[02:16:33] <bronb> I guess you can never be too careful..[02:16:45] <cite> good night everyone. I'm going to take a nap in the fridge.[02:17:00] <bronb> cite: its that hot? :) .. goodnight, and thanks a lot.[02:17:27] *** hparker has joined #postfix[02:17:55] <ldp> Where is postfix's log located?[02:19:40] <rob0> !logs[02:19:40] <knoba> rob0: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going. also see !have2mung[02:20:49] <rob0> cite, good night, avoid the light.[02:21:16] <rob0> Great, I'm too late.[02:21:51] *** magyar has joined #postfix[02:23:35] *** Trill has joined #postfix[02:25:29] *** doolittlework has quit IRC[02:27:48] *** hever has quit IRC[02:29:37] *** memiux has joined #postfix[02:30:16] <memiux> I have smtpd_helo_required=yes and also force to use STARTTLS[02:30:55] <memiux> but i need to say ehlo twice (ehlo,starttls, and again ehlo)[02:39:36] *** chesty has quit IRC[02:40:53] *** chesty has joined #postfix[02:44:27] *** SARGuy has quit IRC[02:55:32] *** foxkid has joined #postfix[02:57:47] <bronb> rob0: welp, you mentioned: "as *one* DATA with numerous RCPTs, in a single SMTP session." , as I said I'm pretty much new ... I been trying to google further .. but I can't seem to google anything[02:58:01] <bronb> anyidea where/how I might read further about that method/approach?[02:59:01] <rob0> I'm not talking about methods. I'm talking about how SMTP works.[02:59:52] <bronb> so any generic bulk mailer should behave like that?[02:59:53] *** rpm has quit IRC[03:10:27] *** rpm has joined #postfix[03:12:26] *** Skaag has quit IRC[03:13:51] *** diqpib has quit IRC[03:17:37] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:18:35] *** feisar has quit IRC[03:25:52] *** ldp has quit IRC[03:44:56] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[03:53:58] *** madrescher has quit IRC[03:54:38] *** memiux has quit IRC[04:03:45] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[04:04:19] *** memiux has joined #postfix[04:05:38] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[04:06:07] *** orioni_ has joined #postfix[04:07:23] *** TheAvatar356 has joined #postfix[04:08:06] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[04:08:19] *** Hyperi_ has joined #postfix[04:13:40] *** Hyperi has quit IRC[04:17:35] *** ramoni has quit IRC[04:19:23] *** memiux has quit IRC[04:21:29] *** TheAvatar has quit IRC[04:22:39] *** orioni has quit IRC[04:44:24] *** memiux has joined #postfix[05:20:37] *** foexle has quit IRC[05:22:43] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[05:24:49] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[05:26:51] *** bronb_ has joined #postfix[05:26:52] *** bronb has quit IRC[05:27:11] *** foxkid has quit IRC[05:32:34] *** pinoyskull has joined #postfix[05:41:15] *** M1Garand has joined #postfix[05:45:26] <KB1JWQ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S3C4AC908w[05:51:29] *** BlackNet has quit IRC[05:51:32] *** M1Garand is now known as BlackNet[05:52:17] <TomHome> hehe[05:58:10] *** zz_nb is now known as nb[06:01:55] <rob0> Curses! Rickrolled again![06:19:09] *** clockspider has joined #postfix[06:41:51] *** arha has joined #postfix[06:45:06] *** r3r3 has quit IRC[06:45:40] *** r3r3 has joined #postfix[07:03:13] *** c0l2e has joined #postfix[07:03:26] <c0l2e> anyone here using maildir in postfix?[07:04:35] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[07:04:45] <clockspider> i do[07:05:03] <c0l2e> how can I relocate its path[07:05:59] <c0l2e> like in dovecot i config mail_location = /var/mailcenter/%u/Maildir[07:06:00] <clockspider> mail_location=maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs if you want real directories[07:06:06] <c0l2e> how can I setup it in postfix??[07:07:35] <clockspider> that was for dovecot[07:07:40] <clockspider> !home_mailbox[07:07:41] <knoba> clockspider: "home_mailbox" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.[07:08:37] <c0l2e> so do I need to add configuration in postfix or the home_mailbox = Maildir/ will do??[07:09:04] <clockspider> mail_location=maildir:/var/mailcenter/%u/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs might work for you[07:10:21] <c0l2e> hmm thanks[07:19:53] <c0l2e> clockspider: not working[07:20:10] <c0l2e> dovecot.conf => mail_location=maildir:/var/mailcenter/%u/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs[07:20:28] <c0l2e> postfix/main.cf => home_mailbox = Maildir/[07:20:41] <c0l2e> not working.. it still saving messages in ~/Maildir[07:20:43] <c0l2e> how can[07:20:47] <c0l2e> how can I fix this?[07:21:03] <clockspider> dont set home_mailbox in postfix[07:21:17] <c0l2e> hmm ok[07:21:35] <rob0> !maildir[07:21:35] <knoba> rob0: "maildir" : a mailbox format introduced by qmail where emails are saved as individual files in a directory structure rather than into a single flat text file. Postfix settings like !home_mailbox and !virtual_mailbox_maps will allow delivery to maildir if the path value returned ends in /[07:22:36] <rob0> Um, see /topic, "when asking ..."[07:23:29] <rob0> Looks like a confusion of local(8)/virtual(8).[07:26:34] *** nb is now known as zz_nb[07:29:21] *** memiux has quit IRC[07:29:31] <c0l2e> not working either[07:29:34] *** uqlev has joined #postfix[07:29:43] <c0l2e> dovecot.conf => mail_location=maildir:/var/mailcenter/%u/Maildir:LAYOUT=f[07:30:00] <c0l2e> postfix/main.cf => #home_mailbox=Maildir/[07:30:09] <c0l2e> still not working.. no messages received[07:32:31] <rob0> No logs posted. Can't help, I'm off to bed.[07:34:33] *** F6F has joined #postfix[07:37:16] *** uqlev has quit IRC[07:38:45] *** [mu]keiserr has joined #postfix[07:40:48] <[mu]keiserr> btw, after installing postgres, i have port 5432 openned, any idea what is listening there and the details of the protocol, and if it is normal that one can telnet through that without login? [there's a guy here who is freaking out because of this, and i don't know whether i do close this with the firewall or not[07:41:29] *** f3ew has quit IRC[07:44:01] *** r2r3 has joined #postfix[07:44:04] *** zz_nb is now known as nb[07:47:41] <clockspider> how is that even remotely related to postfix?[07:48:11] * Dominian shrugs[07:48:19] <Dominian> nothing?[07:49:18] <c0l2e> done it[07:49:29] <c0l2e> using mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver[07:51:12] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[07:52:14] <clockspider> congratulations![07:53:36] <c0l2e> haha got all confused.. doing a mail system with system users..[07:53:43] <c0l2e> they all think of virtual..[07:54:21] <c0l2e> reroll back to system user coz I got some problem fetching and forwarding mail using the virtual aliases[07:54:25] <c0l2e> anyway thank you all[07:58:43] <sed__> is there a way to stop spam where the From: address claims to be my e-mail address?[08:00:35] <c0l2e> hmm that's one of my problem in our old e-mail accounts[08:01:54] <clockspider> !content_filter[08:01:55] <knoba> clockspider: "content_filter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The name of a mail delivery transport that filters mail after it is queued.[08:02:15] <markl_> what is the easiest way to find out what authentication methods my postfix installation supports?[08:02:42] <clockspider> !header_checks[08:02:43] <knoba> clockspider: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.[08:02:45] <markl_> it is requiring starttls so it doesn't display the list from telnet[08:03:34] <clockspider> !check_sender_access[08:03:34] <knoba> clockspider: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.[08:04:12] <clockspider> you telnet to it on port 25[08:04:54] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[08:07:43] <c0l2e> where can I use this?[08:07:45] *** r2r3 has quit IRC[08:08:10] <c0l2e> smtpd_recipient_restrictions ??[08:09:11] <c0l2e> ah header_checks[08:17:14] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[08:19:06] *** [mu]keiserr has quit IRC[08:19:57] <markl_> also, can postfix support "basic" auth?[08:20:56] <clockspider> lolwut[08:21:45] <markl_> i need to support either ntlm or basic if possible :([08:22:03] <f3ew> SASL?[08:22:05] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[08:22:17] <f3ew> As long as your SASL library of choice supports it, yes[08:22:31] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[08:22:56] <clockspider> plain text?[08:24:32] *** sophokles has joined #postfix[08:26:15] <sysmonk> morn[08:29:28] *** kmq has joined #postfix[08:30:52] *** wdp has joined #postfix[08:32:55] <sysmonk> just when i said morning - everyone shut up :P[08:34:04] <f3ew> It's too early[08:34:22] <sysmonk> 9:38 here[08:34:31] *** diqpib has joined #postfix[08:35:34] *** nomad_fr1 has joined #postfix[08:39:03] <ewook> 08:43 here *_*[08:40:43] <markl_> is ntlm compatible with ldap lookups?[08:41:16] * sysmonk never ever used ntlm[08:41:39] *** xabbuh has joined #postfix[08:41:42] <doomas_work> oh, it's sysadminday today...[08:41:48] <sysmonk> yup yup[08:42:15] <sysmonk> i have already had my sysadmin day gift from my work! a maintainence window from 00:00 to 02:00[08:42:18] <sysmonk> :)))[08:42:35] *** bancale has quit IRC[08:42:57] <f3ew> ooooh, a maintainance window[08:44:47] <sysmonk> yeah, sorry for my grammmmah[08:46:01] <f3ew> Nah, I want one too[08:46:51] *** foexle has joined #postfix[08:49:40] <sysmonk> if you'll be a good sysadmin, maybe you'll get one too for the next sysadmin day![08:54:58] *** vys has joined #postfix[08:56:06] <f3ew> heh[08:57:29] *** arossouw has joined #postfix[08:57:55] <arossouw> hello, is it possible to have multiple smart hosts per domain?[08:58:20] <sysmonk> 'per domain' ?[08:58:44] <arossouw> abc.co.za i want to receive emails and send it to 2 mta's[08:58:53] <arossouw> just an example[08:58:59] *** Filbert- has quit IRC[08:59:03] <clockspider> !transport_maps[08:59:03] <knoba> clockspider: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.[08:59:28] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[08:59:30] <arossouw> you can only add a domain once in transport map, i want to send it to 2 mta's[08:59:52] <sysmonk> arossouw: at the same time?[08:59:55] <sysmonk> or load balance it?[08:59:58] <arossouw> ie. abc.co.za smtp:[10.0.x.2][09:00:11] <arossouw> i cant add another occurance of abc.co.za[09:00:14] <arossouw> sysmonk: yes[09:00:23] <sysmonk> arossouw: yes[09:00:47] <arossouw> can you point me to documentation that i can read on it?[09:00:54] <clockspider> !bcc_maps[09:00:55] <knoba> clockspider: Error: "bcc_maps" is not a valid command.[09:00:57] <sysmonk> can you answer my question?[09:01:59] <arossouw> sysmonk: i am installing a new mta , the current mta has depreciated software, i want to run the second mta in parallel, for testing purposes[09:02:16] <sysmonk> ah, so that was a "yes, at the same time" ?[09:02:22] <sysmonk> and nto a "yes, load balance it"[09:02:36] <arossouw> sysmonk: do not need to load balance[09:03:05] <arossouw> sysmonk: i want to receive email for a domain on the primary mta and at the same time to the secondary mta[09:03:14] <sysmonk> you can't send a identical copy, but you can send to additional recipient[09:03:34] <sysmonk> !recipient_bcc_maps[09:03:34] <knoba> sysmonk: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.[09:04:14] <arossouw> sysmonk: thanks[09:09:28] *** cilly has joined #postfix[09:09:34] *** Filbert- has joined #postfix[09:10:30] <arossouw> could be difficult to setup when you have 768 mailboxes[09:12:07] *** hparker has quit IRC[09:13:13] <arossouw> will always_bcc overwrite sender_bcc_maps,recipient_bcc_maps ?[09:16:11] <TomHome> what's the purpose of always_bcc[09:16:26] <TomHome> I mean for what this option is useful except read people' emails[09:17:58] *** vys has quit IRC[09:19:59] <clockspider> i like using it for that[09:20:00] <arossouw> we,use it for archiving of email[09:20:17] <clockspider> you can learn some juicy stuff about people[09:22:52] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[09:23:16] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[09:24:59] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[09:26:16] *** doomas_work has joined #postfix[09:31:35] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:41:53] *** cilly has quit IRC[09:47:34] *** denis_ has joined #postfix[09:49:34] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[09:53:15] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[09:53:55] *** doomas_work has quit IRC[09:55:18] *** madrescher has quit IRC[09:55:19] *** wdp has quit IRC[09:55:25] *** wdp has joined #postfix[09:57:24] <mcarter> I setup a postfix machine to pipe all emails to mydomain.com to a seperate process. Now my problem is that if anyone attempts to send my machine an email @mydomain.com, it sends back relay denied. How can I accept all emails to mydomain.com, no matter who the sending mta is?[09:58:30] *** klem has quit IRC[10:00:35] <xabbuh> mcarter: can you paste postconf -n, please?[10:00:40] *** githogori has joined #postfix[10:02:12] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:03:33] <mcarter> xabbuh, http://pastebin.com/d8372447[10:04:11] *** vys has joined #postfix[10:05:11] <mcarter> nevermind, I fixed it by adding a virtualmap[10:06:47] *** Internat has quit IRC[10:10:54] *** emcepe has joined #postfix[10:11:19] *** githogori has quit IRC[10:11:19] *** nomad_fr1 has quit IRC[10:11:20] *** dotplus has quit IRC[10:11:20] *** CaptObviousman has quit IRC[10:11:20] *** mcp has quit IRC[10:11:21] *** Edgan has quit IRC[10:11:30] *** emcepe is now known as mcp[10:12:35] *** Guest77689 has joined #postfix[10:13:10] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[10:13:28] *** CaptObviousman has joined #postfix[10:14:04] *** hark_ has joined #postfix[10:17:47] *** githogori has joined #postfix[10:17:47] *** nomad_fr1 has joined #postfix[10:17:47] *** Edgan has joined #postfix[10:19:05] *** mac`u has joined #postfix[10:19:08] <mac`u> hello[10:19:27] <mac`u> there is any way to configure Postfix to handle clients authorizations when one of them sends login as login@domain and others sends only login ?[10:19:52] <mac`u> I have postif+courier_imap+postgresql[10:21:04] *** dotplus has joined #postfix[10:23:27] *** hark has quit IRC[10:34:28] *** c0l2e has left #postfix[10:44:16] *** feisar has joined #postfix[10:44:46] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[10:55:45] <dan__t> What would I research if I wanted to add some headers to outgoing mail?[10:56:13] <dan__t> I need to add some X-Whatever headers.[10:58:38] *** Skaag has quit IRC[11:04:28] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:06:19] <xabbuh> dan__t: maybe header_checks with the PREPEND action?[11:07:05] *** githogori has quit IRC[11:07:05] <dan__t> Ok, that's cool.[11:08:26] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:09:11] *** praxis has quit IRC[11:10:28] <dan__t> Very cool.[11:10:32] <dan__t> I lost my Book of Postfix :([11:10:39] <dan__t> That was one of my favorite tech books ever.[11:13:12] <dan__t> Ah well. Bedtime for me. Thanks for the tip.[11:17:42] <mcarter> what can cause qshape to run slowly? Its taking 10+ minutes to run for me, but its only using 1% cpu and 2.2%memory, and nothing else is using substantial cpu or memory on the system[11:18:42] *** beawesomeinstead has quit IRC[11:19:38] <f3ew> disk io?[11:20:25] <mcarter> f3ew, any idea how I could double check that?[11:21:45] <f3ew> iostat[11:22:33] *** praxis has joined #postfix[11:27:52] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:32:27] <mcarter> f3ew, thanks[11:33:39] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[11:33:40] <milligan_> I'm trying to send an e-mail to a specific host, and I get this, lost connection with mail.obfuscated.no[xxx.196.xx.xx9] while performing the HELO handshake. That would indicate a problem with the receiving end, wouldn't it ?[11:35:20] *** bronb_ has quit IRC[11:35:51] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:40:43] *** hever has joined #postfix[11:41:52] <mcarter> f3ew, iostat only shows 21% iowait[11:42:07] <mcarter> strangely, if i run ls on /var/spool/postfix/incoming, it just sits there not listing anything at all[11:43:19] <mcarter> /var/spool/postfix/incoming is only 11.5 mb though[11:44:23] *** lennard has quit IRC[11:44:27] *** lennard has joined #postfix[11:46:18] *** lennard has quit IRC[11:46:20] *** lennard has joined #postfix[11:47:42] <_ruben> 11.5MB can be *tons* of small files[11:48:39] <cite> mcarter: What kind of filesystem do you use for your queue?[11:48:50] <mcarter> I'm using ext3[11:48:58] <mcarter> I think there are *tons* there[11:49:27] <ewook> yep.[11:49:36] <mcarter> I tried to move some, and mv incoming/* gave me an error (argument list too long), and then i tried mv incoming/6*, and that didn't work, but mv incoming/6E* does[11:49:52] <mcarter> what can I do at this point? the system is running incredibly slowly. is there some way I can clean them out and figure out whats up?[11:50:06] <cite> mcarter: Do you know the device name of the partition? Something like /dev/sda5 or /dev/vg/spool?[11:50:33] <cite> mcarter: And even more important, is your queue living in a dedicated device?[11:50:37] <ewook> stop postfix, and move incoming to something incoming.bleh and create it again[11:50:43] <ewook> 'n start it again[11:51:15] <mcarter> cite its not a dedicated device, its /dev/xvda[11:51:21] <mcarter> ewook, ok, i'll give it a try[11:51:39] <_ruben> find incoming -type f | xargs mv --target-directory=/some/where/else/[11:51:58] <cite> mcarter: What:s the output of tune2fs -l /dev/xvda | grep "^File.*feature"?[11:52:22] <mcarter> cite, Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file[11:52:37] <mcarter> _ruben, what does that do?[11:52:44] <cite> Well, your box is simply to slow, then. "dir_index" means you already use btree indices.[11:52:54] <_ruben> mcarter: move all files under incoming/ to /some/where/else/[11:53:02] <cite> Next step would be to find out why your incoming queue is full.[11:53:12] <mcarter> cite, when you say too slow, what does that mean? it was using very little cpu[11:53:43] <ewook> i'd say his incomming queue is busted with to many mails.[11:53:59] <cite> Well ofc it is. And he needs to find out why.[11:54:11] <mcarter> _ruben, thanks[11:59:14] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[11:59:48] *** hever has quit IRC[12:01:36] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[12:01:58] *** diqpi1 has joined #postfix[12:06:09] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[12:08:44] *** tuxick has joined #postfix[12:08:46] <tuxick> lo[12:09:35] *** nomad_fr1 has quit IRC[12:09:38] <tuxick> got a multiple virtual domain server, now how to map a subdomain to main?[12:11:36] *** nuonguy has quit IRC[12:11:55] *** diqpib has quit IRC[12:16:10] *** cilly has quit IRC[12:16:39] *** z0ran has joined #postfix[12:21:16] *** jseb has joined #postfix[12:47:29] *** loddafnir has joined #postfix[12:56:43] *** UQlev has quit IRC[12:57:42] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[12:59:11] *** cilly has joined #postfix[13:01:18] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[13:04:10] <milligan_> tuxick, you want to relay mail from *.domain.tld to user at domain dot tld ?[13:04:48] <tuxick> no[13:05:07] <tuxick> i want it mapped/rewritten, and passed to user at domain dot com[13:09:05] <cite> foo at sub dot domain.com > foo at domain dot com?[13:09:06] <tuxick> i'm using dovecot LDA, so it has to be done before passed to dovecot :)[13:09:07] <milligan_> yeah, a relay[13:09:21] <tuxick> k i couldn't imagine that's called relaying[13:09:42] <tuxick> ah cite didn't spot you here :)[13:09:56] <cite> omg. bluez?[13:10:00] <tuxick> anyway, now trying to solve this with ldap/virtual_alias_maps[13:10:02] <tuxick> cite :)[13:10:11] <tuxick> cite: some idiot stole my nick here!![13:10:44] <cite> tuxick: The rewriting method I gave you is a perfectly valid solution.[13:11:15] <tuxick> yes, and first test failed[13:12:00][13:12:10] <tuxick> it ended up in mailbox of local user :)[13:12:15] <tuxick> instead of virtual[13:12:54] <tuxick> query_filter = (|(mail=%u@%2)(mailAlternateAddress=%u@%2))[13:12:54] <cite> tuxick: If I were you, I'd write that file, and then execute a "postmap -q foo at sub dot domain.com /etc/postfix/alias.cf"[13:12:59] <tuxick> esult_format = %u@%2[13:13:11] <tuxick> ye[13:13:25] <milligan_> tuxick, maybe this is of help: http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0309/2056.html[13:13:39] <milligan_> tuxick, / at [^@]*\ dot mydomain_1\.com$/ catchalluser at localhost[13:13:56] <milligan_> and a virtual_alias_maps = regexp:/etc/postfix/subdomain-catchall in main.cf[13:14:07] <cite> milligan_: This is not what he wants.[13:14:24] <tuxick> yeah i saw that regex thing[13:14:39] <tuxick> but that looks awfully clumsy[13:15:24] <cite> And it's outdated nowadays :-P[13:15:42] <tuxick> postmap -q returns nothing[13:16:05] <tuxick> ok that should be easily fixed[13:16:37] <cite> tuxick: it's %u at %2 dot %1[13:16:48] <cite> tuxick: my fault, should have read ldap_table(5) more carefully.[13:17:03] <tuxick> bah, i was going to look that syntax up when phone rang[13:17:04] <tuxick> twice![13:17:08] <cite> Haha![13:17:43] <tuxick> people think i sit here all day doing nothing[13:17:52] <tuxick> so why send a mail when you can disturb me[13:17:52] <cite> I certailny thought that, yeah.[13:17:59] * tuxick slaps cite[13:20:47] <tuxick> query_filter = (|(mail=%u at %2 dot %1)(mailAlternateAddress=%u@%2.%1))[13:20:51] <tuxick> this looks correct to me[13:21:16] <cite> I don't do LDAP, I don't know.[13:23:12] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[13:28:19] *** cilly has quit IRC[13:28:49] *** lkumar has joined #postfix[13:37:26] <tuxick> distracted again[13:38:46] <tuxick> odd, it sure looks correct to me[13:39:30] *** jtaji has quit IRC[13:39:35] *** Fallenou_ has joined #postfix[13:39:43] <cite> tuxick: Can you please show me what your query file looks like? Obfuscate passwords/domains, if you have to.[13:41:18] <tuxick> i simply copied ldap-users.cf, which works[13:41:37] <tuxick> and replaced query_filter = (|(mail=%s)(mailAlternateAddress=%s)) with query_filter = (|(mail=%u at %2 dot %1)(mailAlternateAddress=%u@%2.%1))[13:42:11] <cite> what's your result_attribute?[13:42:26] <tuxick> result_attribute = mail[13:42:47] <cite> *sigh*[13:43:00] <tuxick> but that was just a try[13:43:05] <cite> Remove result_format, query again, capture query with tcpdump.[13:46:30] *** cpm_ has joined #postfix[13:46:40] <cite> Does ldap-users.cf perhaps contain a "domain = ..." statement?[13:47:17] *** hever has joined #postfix[13:47:23] <tuxick> no that'd be silly :)[13:47:39] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[13:47:53] <tuxick> it's just basic search_base and query_filter[13:47:59] <tuxick> it must be the filter[13:48:20] <tuxick> i'll verbose++ slapd[13:48:48] *** scylla has joined #postfix[13:50:32] *** cilly has joined #postfix[13:54:07] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[13:55:49] *** Skaag has quit IRC[13:56:36] *** F6F has quit IRC[13:56:38] *** nomad_fr1 has joined #postfix[13:56:41] <tuxick> ok, slapd -d showed filter is working and returning entry[13:56:50] <tuxick> back to man ldap_table ;)[13:57:11] *** kmq has quit IRC[13:57:58] <cite> tuxick: You had removed result_format, right?[14:00:04] <tuxick> no :)[14:00:26] <tuxick> investigating now[14:02:33] <tuxick> started with fresh copy of working file[14:02:41] <tuxick> and by miracle it works now[14:02:52] <tuxick> i'll just pretend this never happened[14:03:40] <tuxick> it does seem to require result_attribute = mail[14:03:44] <tuxick> at least for postmap -q[14:04:00] <cite> tuxick: Next step: add "domain = sub.domain.com" to new file. Test again. Add to virtual_alias_maps before other ldap maps. Issue postfix reload. Get lunch.[14:04:02] *** pinoyskull has quit IRC[14:04:21] <tuxick> yeah, looks like i'm almost there now[14:05:07] *** Section1 has joined #postfix[14:06:45] <tuxick> i don't really understand the addition of "domain ="[14:06:48] <tuxick> after the coffee[14:08:22] *** Confusid has quit IRC[14:08:55] *** al_ has joined #postfix[14:09:40] <tuxick> it gets delivered to localuser, %u[14:11:14] *** Fallenou_ has quit IRC[14:11:22] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[14:15:25] *** lkumar has quit IRC[14:16:10] *** cilly has quit IRC[14:16:18] *** loddafnir has left #postfix[14:18:17] <cite> tuxick: Did you add domain = ...?[14:18:21] *** cilly has joined #postfix[14:19:08] <cite> tuxick: And more important: Did you add sub.domain.com to virtual_alias_domains?[14:20:30] *** memiux has joined #postfix[14:20:33] *** memiux has quit IRC[14:20:50] *** al has quit IRC[14:22:34] <tuxick> sorry, 3 phonecalls and painful user[14:22:52] *** scylla has quit IRC[14:25:37] *** quizme has joined #postfix[14:25:42] <quizme> hi[14:25:50] <quizme> i'm trying to check my mail[14:25:58] <quizme> on postfix/courier[14:26:03] <tuxick> that's not a postfix issue then :)[14:26:04] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[14:26:11] <quizme> come on bro help me out[14:26:19] <quizme> nobody is on #courier[14:26:41] <quizme> how do i connect to the imap server via telnet ?[14:26:44] <cite> tuxick: Perhaps you get bitten by parent_domain_matches_subdomains. Try executing postconf -e 'parent_domain_matches_subdomains=' && postfix reload[14:27:15] <quizme> and what do i type in for a sanity check[14:28:07] <tuxick> quizme: http://wiki.dhits.nl/index.php/IMAP#IMAP_session[14:28:18] <tuxick> you could of course have googled for "telnet imap session"[14:30:14] <tuxick> cite: i noticed adding this ldap-subdomains.cf to virtual_alias_maps broke all deliveries :)[14:30:24] <tuxick> even though it was last in line[14:31:23] <cite> tuxick: you don't answer half of my debugging related questions.[14:31:32] <tuxick> i'm trying to keep up!!![14:31:35] <cite> tuxick: you don't provide sample output.[14:31:43] <tuxick> i don't understand the domain = bit[14:31:47] <tuxick> that's where i am now[14:32:06] <cite> It will skip queries for this map if @foo.com doesn't match it's setting.[14:32:16] <tuxick> aha[14:32:25] *** f3ew has quit IRC[14:32:44] <cite> Because the way your query_filter is structured, it would also rewrite foo at domain dot com to foo at domain dot com...[14:33:31] <tuxick> uhm, that means i must explicitly set domain = sub.domain.com then[14:33:42] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[14:33:51] <cite> Yes.[14:33:59] <tuxick> makes sense[14:34:10] <tuxick> ah you said that before[14:34:17] <tuxick> damn users keep messing with my mind!![14:34:18] <quizme> login NO Error in IMAP command received by server. <--- what does this mean ?[14:34:26] <tuxick> colleague is onvacation[14:34:33] <tuxick> quizme: that you do it wrong![14:35:09] <quizme> :~([14:35:16] *** Skaag has quit IRC[14:35:28] <tuxick> probably forgetting leading .[14:35:41] <quizme> http://pastie.org/566609[14:36:11] <tuxick> cite: but i thought virtual_alias_maps handles search in order?[14:37:06] <cite> tuxick: This is some kind of a special case. We are "cheating" in our query_filter. So we don't want that map called for, say, foo at domain dot com. Besides, you save a lot of queries that way.[14:37:40] <tuxick> how? virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual, ldap:/usr/local/etc/postfix/ldap-aliases.cf, ldap:/usr/local/etc/postfix/ldap-subdomains.cf[14:37:53] <cite> tuxick: So, postmap -q foo at sub dot domain.com file.cf does return foo at domain dot com, right?[14:37:54] <tuxick> doesn't that mean it'd stop at ldap-aliases.cf if found?[14:38:00] <tuxick> yes, that works[14:38:18] <cite> tuxick: No, aliases are rewritten until the maximum alias expansion depth is reached, as long as matches are found.[14:38:23] <tuxick> aha[14:39:07] <cite> what's the result of postmap -q sub.domain.com hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual?[14:39:38] <tuxick> nothing, thank bob[14:39:57] <cite> Where do you store your virtual_alias_domains?[14:40:25] <cite> Oh wait. You don't have virtual_alias_domains yet?[14:40:37] <tuxick> i don't, indeed[14:40:45] <tuxick> didn't seem to need it[14:41:29] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[14:41:30] <cite> I think it's time you provide postconf -n output.[14:41:52] <tuxick> virtual_alias_domains (default: $virtual_alias_maps)[14:42:16] <cite> Well, Postfix needs to know that sub.domain.com need rewriting.[14:42:30] <tuxick> ok[14:42:40] <cite> Add something like sub.domain.com foo to /usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual and do postmap /usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual.[14:43:25] <theblackbox> hello all, having a bit of trouble recieving email on my postconf setup (http://pastebin.ca/1513701)[14:44:28] <cite> theblackbox: Your policy service on port 2501 doesn't work.[14:45:38] <theblackbox> cite, could you break that down - this is a first for me s a little slow on the uptake[14:45:45] <theblackbox> *so[14:45:59] <cite> tuxick: This "domain.com" - where is that defined? In virtual_mailbox_domains? In relay_domains?[14:46:32] <cite> theblackbox: Your smtpd_recipient_restricitons contain "check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:2501". Whatever provides this one isn't running.[14:46:46] <tuxick> mydestination, virtual_mailbox_domains[14:47:12] <cite> Ah, see?[14:47:13] <tuxick> still reading up :)[14:47:16] <cite> That's why it is delivered locally.[14:47:19] <theblackbox> cite, so would that be dovecot? need to sync dovecot.conf with what postfix is expecting[14:47:36] <cite> theblackbox: No, that has nothing to do with dovecot.[14:47:57] <theblackbox> cite, I'll have a mooch arount the docs/FAQ, thanks for the pointer[14:48:00] <cite> theblackbox: Simply delete that part, issue "postfix reload" and you should be fine.[14:48:00] <tuxick> i'm slightly confused by the fact virtual_alias_maps is used anyway[14:48:11] <tuxick> since the query also finds real users[14:48:16] <theblackbox> ah, I'll give that a shot first then ;)[14:48:31] *** clyons has joined #postfix[14:49:29] <cite> tuxick: Your problem with local delivery is that domain.com is in mydestination. Never ever list a domain in more than one of the four domain classes (local, virtual mailbox, virtual alias, relay).[14:50:00] *** bhagat has quit IRC[14:50:13] <cite> tuxick: You need virtual_alias_maps for the rewriting part, limited to sub.domain.com (that's what domain = sub.domain.com is good for).[14:50:36] *** al_ is now known as al[14:50:51] <cite> tuxick: If you just modified query_filter in your existing virtual_mailbox_maps, dovecot's LDA would still be told to deliver mails to foo at sub dot domain.com.[14:51:01] *** cilly has quit IRC[14:51:06] <tuxick> i see[14:51:28] <cite> Doesn#t your postfix complain about the fact that domain.com is listed in several places?[14:51:53] <tuxick> nope[14:52:08] <cite> Hard to blieve, TBH[14:52:19] <tuxick> ok time to read some more :)[14:52:38] <cite> tuxick: Start with http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html[14:52:57] <tuxick> cheer[14:53:19] <tuxick> cite: btw, mydestination contained sub.domain.com, not domain.com ;p[14:53:31] <tuxick> prolly from last time i was working on it, and got distracted again[14:53:45] <cite> Ah, ok.[14:53:45] <tuxick> $myhostname[14:53:45] *** shasta has quit IRC[14:53:51] <cite> Then you should be done.[14:54:05] <cite> Remove sub.domain.com from mydstination, add it to virtual_alias_domains.[14:54:20] <cite> postfix reload, all should work.[14:54:34] <tuxick> yeah, sounds reasonable[14:54:39] <tuxick> but i'm not gonna try now[14:54:52] <cite> Hrhr.[14:55:02] <tuxick> there's a big fat mailing going out, and that will be sending quite some mails to this particular server[14:55:02] <cite> Have fun explaining to your users where there mails vanished.[14:55:07] <tuxick> yeah[14:55:15] <cite> s/tehre/their/[14:55:48] <tuxick> but i think i understand it now[14:56:09] *** cpm_ is now known as cpm[14:56:15] <cite> tuxick: Start with http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html[14:56:27] <tuxick> yes, you said that already :)[14:56:28] <tuxick> reading[14:57:31] <theblackbox> cite++ sorted thanks[14:57:50] *** clyons has quit IRC[14:58:46] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix[15:04:20] *** shasta has joined #postfix[15:05:55] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[15:06:10] <quizme> if my server doesn't use TLS[15:06:23] <quizme> then i shouldn't encrypt the password in the MySQL database right ?[15:06:49] <tuxick> ????[15:07:24] <tuxick> that's pretty much as unrelated as it can get[15:08:50] <quizme> hehe[15:08:57] <quizme> i'm trying to login[15:09:03] <quizme> but i can't figure out why not[15:09:13] <quizme> my user in the mysql database...[15:10:06] *** TomHome has quit IRC[15:12:05] *** jseb has left #postfix[15:12:26] *** sophokles has quit IRC[15:12:54] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[15:23:39] *** kujed has joined #postfix[15:23:42] <quizme> can somebody help me debug this plz[15:25:06] <Rado> sysmonk, thanks, disabling smtp_fallback_relay solved my "lost at fallback" bounces.[15:25:59] <Rado> sorry for the bad report at the start.[15:26:00] <kujed> Hi, I'm using Postfix in Debian and I want use it only like a SMTP server. Locally is work fine -I tried it with telnet localhost 25- but I introduce command like MAIL FROM or RCTP TO from a remote pc. It's about the range setted in mynetworks?[15:28:52] <tuxick> quizme: debug isn't the right word, and you're still talking courier, no?[15:29:19] <quizme> tuxick yeah ....[15:29:27] <tuxick> cite: btw, it's working already, the domain = bit was what i was missing i suppose[15:29:32] <tuxick> rest of config was ok[15:29:41] <tuxick> but i agree i should clean that up a bit[15:32:14] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:36:46] *** nomad_fr1 has quit IRC[15:39:52] *** loddafnir1 has joined #postfix[15:41:24] *** vys has quit IRC[15:46:35] *** madrescher has quit IRC[15:48:59] *** denis_ has quit IRC[15:56:35] *** Skaag has quit IRC[15:56:52] *** sejo is now known as __repr__[16:09:09] *** gencha has quit IRC[16:14:17] *** gencha has joined #postfix[16:16:33] *** ek has quit IRC[16:20:26] *** ek has joined #Postfix[16:21:36] *** hparker has joined #postfix[16:23:28] *** __repr__ is now known as sejo[16:28:43] *** gencha has quit IRC[16:29:35] *** cilly has joined #postfix[16:34:13] *** gencha has joined #postfix[16:36:29] *** tjikkun has quit IRC[16:40:09] *** arossouw has quit IRC[16:45:10] *** memiux has joined #postfix[16:50:12] *** wild_oscar has joined #postfix[16:50:42] <wild_oscar> greetings. does anyone have experience with procmail and can help me change a local ~/.procmailrc into a global rule?[16:50:46] <wild_oscar> namely, this one: http://pastebin.com/d6c64eca4[16:51:15] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[16:57:04] *** tjikkun has joined #postfix[16:57:32] <Bushmills> wild_oscar, /j #procmail[16:58:13] <wild_oscar> Bushmills: /whois wild_oscar ;)[16:58:23] *** sep has quit IRC[16:58:25] <wild_oscar> dead channel[16:58:46] <Bushmills> granted, postfix starts with letter "p" too, and contains an "o"[16:59:45] *** UQlev has quit IRC[16:59:48] <wild_oscar> and sometimes postfix users are proefficient mailserver administrators and have used procmail before[17:00:42] <Bushmills> but they're likely to send you to #procmail[17:02:04] <wild_oscar> thank you for the information, Bushmills[17:03:10] *** lkumar has joined #postfix[17:05:46] *** xabbuh has quit IRC[17:07:59] *** applejack has joined #postfix[17:08:10] *** Southron has joined #Postfix[17:09:58] <applejack> hi,... how can I rewrite the subject line based on the presence or absence of a header line? is that possible?[17:12:53] *** foexle has quit IRC[17:14:50] *** JNX has quit IRC[17:14:59] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[17:15:48] *** feisar has quit IRC[17:17:19] *** hever has quit IRC[17:17:36] *** m9x has joined #postfix[17:20:55] *** memiux has quit IRC[17:21:45] *** memiux has joined #postfix[17:24:30] *** terje has joined #postfix[17:24:34] *** kujed has left #postfix[17:30:30] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[17:38:26] *** TeckniX has joined #postfix[17:41:15] <memiux> Hi, I have smtpd_helo_required=yes and also force to use STARTTLS[17:41:17] <memiux> but i need to say ehlo twice (ehlo,starttls, and again ehlo)[17:41:45] *** foexle has joined #postfix[17:44:55] *** bigbor has quit IRC[17:46:50] *** wild_oscar has quit IRC[17:50:02] *** hever has joined #postfix[17:55:15] *** diqpi1 has quit IRC[18:02:54] *** hark_ is now known as hark[18:05:48] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[18:07:17] *** nb is now known as zz_nb[18:11:29] *** AndrewKT has joined #postfix[18:11:45] *** Skaag_ has joined #postfix[18:14:19] *** zz_nb is now known as nb[18:14:43] *** TeckniX has left #postfix[18:17:03] *** hever has quit IRC[18:20:34] *** TeraHertz has joined #postfix[18:22:26] *** bturnbull has joined #postfix[18:23:58] *** lkumar has quit IRC[18:27:13] *** nuonguy has joined #postfix[18:28:50] *** AndrewKT_ has quit IRC[18:29:49] *** Skaag has quit IRC[18:32:17] *** F6F has joined #postfix[18:33:45] *** bturnbull_ has joined #postfix[18:36:02] *** quizme has quit IRC[18:36:28] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[18:41:06] *** clockspider has quit IRC[18:41:39] *** nuonguy has quit IRC[18:45:30] <applejack> hmm,.. when setting up a filter for use with header_checks '/anyheader/ FILTER foo:bar' am I right in that the header must be removed by the filter?[18:50:01] *** bturnbull has quit IRC[18:50:10] *** bturnbull_ is now known as bturnbull[18:52:27] *** m9x has quit IRC[18:53:17] *** damir has joined #postfix[18:53:22] <damir> hello[18:54:05] <damir> I'd need a bit of help...[18:54:12] <damir> my situation:[18:54:50] <damir> pfx1 (store and forward to pfx2)[18:55:04] <damir> for the same domain[18:55:23] *** TeraHertz has quit IRC[18:55:47] *** jmedina has joined #postfix[18:55:49] *** bturnbull is now known as bturnbull_afk[18:56:02] <damir> is this doable?[19:00:02] *** daguz has joined #postfix[19:05:19] *** applejack has left #postfix[19:08:28] *** Skaag_ has quit IRC[19:13:33] *** foexle has quit IRC[19:17:56] *** Luke-Jr has quit IRC[19:24:06] *** AndrewKT has quit IRC[19:27:37] *** cilly has quit IRC[19:39:16] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[19:41:59] *** bluethundr has joined #postfix[19:46:13] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[19:49:48] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[19:55:41] *** ek has quit IRC[19:56:49] <pickcoder> friday++[19:57:54] *** orioni_ has quit IRC[19:58:06] *** orioni has joined #postfix[19:59:27] *** M1Garand has joined #postfix[20:01:53] *** Gerdesas has quit IRC[20:02:36] *** Knoedel2 has joined #postfix[20:02:43] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC[20:03:07] *** r3r3 has quit IRC[20:04:47] <karrotx> done;[20:05:05] *** BlackNet has quit IRC[20:05:08] *** M1Garand is now known as BlackNet[20:06:58] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[20:08:00] *** r3r3 has joined #postfix[20:12:01] *** orioni has quit IRC[20:12:06] *** orioni has joined #postfix[20:12:32] *** ek has joined #Postfix[20:13:02] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[20:22:53] *** jmoncayo has joined #postfix[20:23:33] *** loddafnir1 has quit IRC[20:34:15] *** muh2000 has quit IRC[20:34:45] *** sebastien has joined #postfix[20:42:05] *** orioni has quit IRC[20:42:10] *** orioni has joined #postfix[20:47:05] *** beawesomeinstead has joined #postfix[20:48:21] *** daguz has left #postfix[20:48:29] *** Skaag_ has joined #postfix[20:58:12] *** F6F has quit IRC[21:00:41] *** nuonguy has joined #postfix[21:04:43] *** Skaag has quit IRC[21:04:45] <jmoncayo> hey guys if i want my server to recieve email for 2 virtual domains should i add the second virtual domain finanzaspopulares.gov.ec in here? mydestination = mail.mcds.gov.ec, localhost, localhost.localdomain[21:09:17] *** scylla has joined #postfix[21:12:32] <rob0> !virtual[21:12:32] <knoba> rob0: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[21:12:45] * rob0 afk[21:13:51] <mac`u> there is any way to configure Postfix/SASL to handle clients authorizations when one of them sends login as login@domain and others sends only login ?[21:13:58] <jmoncayo> thanks[21:14:00] *** bturnbull_afk has quit IRC[21:14:24] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[21:14:41] *** sebastien has quit IRC[21:16:40] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:20:39] <lunaphyte> mac`u: sure. they're just strings.[21:21:07] <mac`u> great, but how ?[21:21:49] *** smultron has joined #postfix[21:22:27] <smultron> is there anyway to have email forwarded to another user, but still have it show up in the original recipients inbox as well?[21:24:38] <jmoncayo> in the forwarding add the original recipient as well[21:25:41] *** eanxgeek has quit IRC[21:33:03] *** Gerdesas has joined #postfix[21:33:56] <smultron> jmoncayo: that sounds almost too simple…[21:34:11] <smultron> jmoncayo: I'll give it a try. thanks ;)[21:34:42] <smultron> jmoncayo: wouldn't that cause an infinite loop?[21:35:26] <jmoncayo> no it doesnt[21:35:35] <jmoncayo> i thought the same, but it worked just fine for me[21:36:27] <smultron> and you're talking about using aliases, right?[21:36:41] *** kukac has joined #postfix[21:37:09] <jmoncayo> no but i suppose it should work the same with aliases[21:38:18] <kukac> hello, i have a big big problem: i get my mails by getmail and I configured virtual maps too in postfix, but sendmail tries to resend the mail list messages with multiple recipient. What did I missed?[21:40:55] <jmoncayo> maybe shutting down sendmail[21:42:31] <kukac> jmoncay: thanks[21:43:05] *** damir has left #postfix[21:52:56] *** jmoncayo has quit IRC[21:58:10] <kukac> ok, I ask in an other way: if the mail list message's final recipient is something like that: list at list dot somehting.com, my postfix resends the messages to the list. How to change this behaviour? Should I put all subscribed maillist to my /etc/postfix/virtual file?[22:03:12] *** jmedina has quit IRC[22:08:47] *** madrescher has quit IRC[22:17:43] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[22:21:56] *** defaultro has joined #postfix[22:22:23] <defaultro> good afternoon folks. I lost the link that someone gave to me. It's about spam filtering in postfix[22:23:42] <defaultro> is this a good one, http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_spam_filter_mail_gateway[22:24:19] <defaultro> or this one, http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/spamfilter20061118.html[22:29:51] *** Luke-Jr has joined #Postfix[22:31:48] *** madrescher1 has joined #postfix[22:31:51] *** madrescher has quit IRC[22:33:02] *** madrescher1 has quit IRC[22:34:42] *** mactimes has quit IRC[22:37:55] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[22:39:19] *** feisar has joined #postfix[22:44:57] *** karrotx has quit IRC[22:55:27] *** pingouin has quit IRC[22:57:19] <mac`u> do you know from where Cyrus-SASL getting defuat domain when client send only login without domain ?[22:57:59] <mac`u> when client send only login I see in auth.log that Cyrus add by himself domain[22:58:00] *** Skaag_ has quit IRC[22:58:15] *** Skaag has joined #postfix[23:03:01] *** jzaboo has joined #postfix[23:03:24] *** Southron has quit IRC[23:03:57] <kukac> is it possible to restrict postfix sendmail to local delivery only?[23:04:06] <jzaboo> Hi, short question: How can I configure postfix NOT to send mails to postmaster.[23:04:22] <jzaboo> postfix sends mails for every unkown reciepient[23:04:31] <jzaboo> which are caused by spammers[23:06:29] *** foexle has joined #postfix[23:07:58] *** LinuxCode has joined #postfix[23:10:27] <cite> jzaboo: What's the output of: postconf notify_classes[23:15:00] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[23:19:33] *** Manish has joined #postfix[23:20:57] *** alastor has joined #postfix[23:22:00] *** bluethundr has quit IRC[23:26:54] *** scylla has quit IRC[23:26:58] *** Section1 has quit IRC[23:30:49] <jzaboo> cite: notify_classes = resource, software[23:33:08] *** pingouin has joined #postfix[23:34:13] <cite> jzaboo: Please paste one of those mails.[23:34:19] <cite> !nopaste[23:34:19] <knoba> cite: Error: "nopaste" is not a valid command.[23:34:23] <cite> !pastebin[23:34:24] <knoba> cite: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.[23:36:21] *** nuonguy has quit IRC[23:36:55] *** nuonguy has joined #postfix[23:37:58] <jzaboo> cite: seems to have stopped now... tried sending a mail to a non-existant user but didn#t recieve any mail. perhaps it's from any pre-configuration of postfix.[23:38:24] <jzaboo> cite: deleted those mails so i can't give ya an example.[23:38:35] <jzaboo> cite: thx anyway[23:38:37] *** jzaboo has quit IRC[23:39:56] *** steinmb has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** TomHome has joined #postfix[23:44:31] *** mactimes has quit IRC[23:48:17] *** mactimes has joined #postfix[23:57:22] *** war9407 has quit IRC[23:58:21] *** steinmb has quit IRC