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[00:49:37] <n0sq> hi - i've been trying to follow the howto for setting up cyrus-sasl but i can't seem to create a sasl.db using saslpasswd2 - i get prompted for a password for the user i want to start with but the database never gets created
[00:53:14] <n0sq> su -c "/usr/sbin/sasldblistusers2"
[00:53:16] <n0sq> Password:
[00:53:17] <n0sq> listusers failed
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[01:11:27] <jla> I have switched my mailbox_command from 'procmail -a"$EXTENSION"' variations on '/usr/bin/dspam --debug' (current version). Before the switch, postfix/local says delivered to command: procmail -a"$EXTENSION", after the change it says delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail.
[01:13:04] <jla> I suspect the dspam command is wrong for some reason and it is falling back to a safe default. I have tried increasing verbosity on the local delivery agent but am still not able to determine what the holdup may be
[01:15:33] <jla> maybe it's even working, and I'm not realizing it. I am expectin to see "delivered to command: /usr/bin/dspam --debug"
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[01:50:24] <bobnik> newb here; are questions welcome? I will try to be concise.
[01:50:40] <xpoint> 42 :)
[01:50:46] <bobnik> ha
[01:51:09] <jla> OK I see that email to me gets /usr/bin/procmail and email to others gets whatever is in mailbox_command. The difference between accounts that use mailbox_command and those that dont? $HOME/.procmailrc
[01:51:30] <jla> if an account doesn't have it, it says delivered to: (configured mailbox_command)
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[01:54:17] <shirley99cr> doesn't any of this garbage work without spending hours figuring out how to make it work???
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[01:56:06] <jla> I am thinking the same thing
[01:56:22] <jla> haha wrong channel :)
[01:56:27] <jla> my thoughts are directed at dspam
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[01:58:30] <jla> postfix has worked 'out of the box' until I try to do funky things and do them in the wrong way :)
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[03:02:30] <jla> why would postfix/local "delivered to command" change if $HOME/.procmailrc exists?
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[03:04:16] <growltiger> because your mailbox_command is not procmail maybe
[03:05:37] <jla> mailbox_command has been 'procmail -a "$EXTENSION"' for the longest time. I did not notice the difference between emails 'delivered to command: procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
[03:05:55] <jla> and those 'delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail' because it was procmail
[03:06:28] <jla> Today I tried switching mailbox_command, and all the .procmail people kept using /usr/bin/procmail instead of the new value for mailbox_command
[03:08:35] <growltiger> !local_transport
[03:08:35] <knoba> growltiger: "local_transport" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default mail delivery transport for local destinations. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces. This information can be overruled with the transport(5) table.
[03:09:55] <jla> growltiger: are you suggesting that those with .procmailrc files are local and the others are not?
[03:10:08] <jla> local_transport = local:$myhostname
[03:10:13] <growltiger> no
[03:10:19] <growltiger> i just like typing that
[03:10:23] <jla> :)
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[03:34:40] <b0nghitter> i installed  postfix+dovecot+spamassasin+clamav from freebsd ports for use with web/user/virtualmin, and i keep getting this in /var/log/messages: postfix/trivial-rewrite[2960]: fatal: proxy:mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
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[03:35:13] <b0nghitter> ive tried it in google, but i dont see anything that helps
[03:35:32] <b0nghitter> i had to manually create the mysql database "postfix"
[03:35:39] <b0nghitter> do i need to create a table inside of it?
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[04:29:16] <growltiger> http://postini.com/stats/world-spam-2048.jpg
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[05:18:06] <jiffe88> that can't be true
[05:18:10] <jiffe88> we know africa spams
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[06:31:41] <b0nghitter> i installed  postfix+dovecot+spamassasin+clamav from freebsd ports for use with web/user/virtualmin, and i keep getting this in /var/log/messages: postfix/trivial-rewrite[2960]: fatal: proxy:mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
[06:34:34] <f3ew> what's the waring before that?
[06:34:46] <f3ew> warning
[06:58:33] <b0nghitter> postfix/qmgr[17224]: fatal: watchdog timeout
[06:58:52] <b0nghitter> those are the only things in /var/log/messages
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[07:15:16] <kaushal> hi
[07:15:40] <kaushal> is there a bulk emailer software available in Linux
[07:15:42] <kaushal> ?
[07:16:11] <kaushal> I want to send around 8.5 lakhs email
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[07:18:25] <snappy> that's a lot of rupees.
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[07:28:04] <f3ew> kaushal, how did you get those addresses?
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[08:46:09] <b0nghitter> postfix/proxymap[23504]: warning: mysql query failed: Table 'postfix.domain' doesn't exis
[08:48:33] <b0nghitter> do i just need to create this table in the postfix database?
[08:48:51] <b0nghitter> how many fields in the table?
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[09:18:58] <_ruben> b0nghitter: apparently your postfix config doesnt match your mysql config
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[09:51:55] <Ruckus> Does anyone know how to get postfix to send email only? http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client but it doesn't seem to have worked. I am using google apps to recieve email, I simply need to be able to send email from the server.
[09:53:02] <f3ew> Ruckus logs?
[09:55:15] <Ruckus> http://rafb.net/p/q7WhYl81.html
[09:55:23] <Ruckus> I have no experience with postfix before this.
[09:56:08] <Ruckus> Google's Email servers arn't set up as relay hosts is what i think the problem is, i'm not sure.
[09:56:15] <snappy> Is your name resolver configured?
[09:56:28] <snappy> as in /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:56:48] <Ruckus> yes.
[09:56:51] <Ruckus> dns works
[09:57:18] <Ruckus> PING google.com (74.125.45.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
[09:57:36] <Ruckus> unless i need to add more than the name servers there?
[09:59:31] <snappy> No, but the error messages indicate name service issues.
[09:59:50] <snappy> and also: warning: relayhost configuration problem
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[10:00:56] <Ruckus> I have: relayhost = $mydomain
[10:02:21] <snappy> is this postfix instance running on $mydomain?
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[10:03:00] <Ruckus> I'm not sure honestly
[10:03:18] <snappy> Or is $mydomain an SMTP relay? You should probably comment that out.
[10:03:19] <Ruckus> whats $mydomain, i pretty much copy and pasted the tutorial, i really am completely new to postfix and email servers in general.
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[10:03:56] <cite> rob0: ping
[10:04:06] <Ruckus> ah
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[10:04:13] <snappy> if you're behind an ISP and sending email, you should supply your ISP's SMTP server for relayhost.
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[10:04:42] <snappy> all non-local mail (e.g. mail destined to gmail) will be relayed to your ISP and your ISP will know what to do with it.
[10:05:53] <cite> Ruckus: The setting relayhost = $mydomain will attempt to relay mail to _any_ non local destination to the servers which are marked as MX for $mydomain.
[10:05:57] <Ruckus> It's a vps, http://rhost1.georgemh.com/3rdparty/phpsysinfo/ I want all non local mail to be mailed directly, when you send mail through googles smtp server they rewrite the from address to be the main address of the account, when I actually use my one google account to manage 6-7 differant emails.
[10:06:44] <cite> Ruckus: If you want mail to be relayd directly, simply uncomment the relayhost setting, do a "postfix reload" and requeue all mail already spooled (postsuper -r ALL)
[10:10:45] <Ruckus> wow thanks a lot
[10:10:52] <Ruckus> Worked :)
[10:11:05] <cite> May I suggest some further reading?
[10:11:16] <Ruckus> sure
[10:11:31] <Ruckus> really now i just need to make sure its not receive mail at all
[10:11:46] <cite> Not directly related to the problem you had, but you should _really_ read http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html at least once.
[10:12:09] <cite> Understanding Postfix's different address classes is crucial to running a server.
[10:13:12] <Ruckus> I'll take a look at it.
[10:13:48] <Ruckus> if i have inet_interfaces = 127.0.0.1, its bound to that single address right?
[10:17:00] <R1ck> yes
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[10:35:19] <Edheldil> grrr, some **%%%! spammers from China are spam flooding our mailserver, I have denied about 1million emails since monday and several hundreds of throusand deleted. Looks like a botnet, I have counted 90000 unique IPs
[10:39:58] <pingouin> nice :/
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[11:54:24] <war9407> Edheldil: ever heard of fail2ban?
[11:55:27] <wdp> not sure how fail2ban will stop spammers
[11:55:40] <wdp> if the ip is changing all the time..
[11:57:31] <war9407> analyze the logs , save the ips , if $ip >= 2 hits for (num.num.num.x) then add num.num.num.0/24 to block or to a postfix blacklist
[11:57:36] <war9407> and they get caught very quickly
[11:59:29] <Edheldil> 90000 IPs to blacklist? it sounds terrible
[11:59:35] <war9407> no
[11:59:39] <war9407> you add subnet ranges
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[12:00:05] <war9407> and use stress (2.5+) to kick them off if they have >= 1 error
[12:01:22] <Edheldil> hehe, I will think about it - but since it's backup MX for customers, I can't be as strict as I would like
[12:01:37] <war9407> ah
[12:01:40] <war9407> here is an example
[12:02:07] <war9407> Dec 31 05:56:07 p34 postfix/smtpd[15032]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from sandyegg.com[72.46.29.147]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [72.46.29.147] blocked using b.barracudacentral.org; http://www.barracudanetworks.com/reputation/?pr=1&ip=72.46.29.147; from=<BBW at sandyegg dot com> to=<me at domain dot com> proto=SMTP helo=<sandyegg.com>
[12:02:07] <war9407> Dec 31 05:56:07 p34 postfix/smtpd[15032]: too many errors after RCPT from sandyegg.com[72.46.29.147]
[12:02:24] <war9407> and then fail2ban will ban that ip, and in another process you can have going is to scrape those ips from the log
[12:02:32] <war9407> and when there are say 2 or 3 from each subnet ya nail them
[12:02:39] <war9407>  72.46.29.0/24 REJECT spam
[12:02:57] <war9407> and fail2ban bans them right away as well
[12:02:59] <war9407> quite useful
[12:03:52] * war9407 is always looking for new ways for anti-spam/uce
[12:04:39] <Edheldil> I will look at fail2ban and stress
[12:04:46] <Edheldil> thank you
[12:05:01] <war9407> np.
[12:05:09] <war9407> wdp: any other anti-spam hints? ;)
[12:05:40] <Edheldil> do you have a pointer for stress?
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[12:06:14] <war9407> http://www.postfix.org/STRESS_README.html
[12:06:18] <wdp_> i use fail2ban mainly for security reasons.
[12:06:24] <wdp_> not for anti uce stuff.
[12:07:09] <Edheldil> ah, ok, I know that
[12:08:20] <war9407> wdp: ah, ok
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[13:30:26] <gspr> Is there a way to set up Postfix so that it can check whether a message to a Mailman-managed list is accepted by Mailman, and if it's not, then reject it during the initial SMTP session? Cf. Exim, http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/exim/mailman-smtp-reject.html .
[13:32:46] <xpoint> gspr, you must make ssure that postfix know ALL alias mailman uses, dont allow postfix to deliver catchall to the mailman domain
[13:33:05] <xpoint> gspr, problem solved
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[13:36:56] <gspr> xpoint: But say there's a list at foo dot bar, managed by Mailman, and Postfix knows that list at foo dot bar is to be handled by Mailman. Suppose the list only allows a small set of posters, set as members in Mailman. Mailman will then either bounce or discard the message (depending on settings) - what I'd like to do is for Postfix to realize a certain sender will be rejected, and disallow the message already at SMTP-time.
[13:37:09] <gspr> as the url I linked to shows for Exim
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[13:39:33] <xpoint> gspr, you like non subscribers in maillist to be rejected in mta ?
[13:40:11] <shasta> easily doable when you have an external script that does the actual checking
[13:40:31] <xpoint> then export all subscribers from mailman to a hash file, and then use this as sender check in postfix
[13:40:59] <gspr> xpoint: Yeah, ok, I was thinking of that as my last resort. Thanks :)
[13:41:04] <shasta> policy delegation ftw :)
[13:41:21] <xpoint> policyd v2 :)
[13:41:24] <gspr> shasta: Policy delegation, ey? That sounds interesting :)
[13:41:32] <jduggan> xpoint: winner
[13:41:34] <jduggan> =]
[13:41:41] <shasta> gspr, http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html
[13:41:59] <xpoint> jduggan, oh shurt up
[13:42:05] <gspr> Thanks to the both of you for putting me on track :)
[13:42:07] <gspr> appreciate it
[13:43:16] <xpoint> i will disable rbl dns check in spamassassin and do my own rbl with sa2dnsbl google it :)
[13:44:02] <xpoint> no need to unlist hehe
[13:45:15] <xpoint> gspr, the problem you describe i dont have in my postfix mailman even without policy delegation :)
[13:46:11] <gspr> xpoint: Oh? What do you do then?
[13:46:18] <xpoint> gspr, i have seen so much crap from exim users that i love postfix
[13:46:34] <gspr> (although this policy delegation stuff looks very much like what I want)
[13:47:05] <xpoint> gspr, you want to spam check maillist mails BEFORE posted to mailman
[13:47:48] <xpoint> i run lover KILL score in amavisd for maillist then other mail domain
[13:47:52] <gspr> xpoint: It's not about spam checking. It's about people unauthorized to send to a mailing list being rejected by the MTA during SMTP instead of receiving a bounce mail from Mailman
[13:48:26] <gspr> it's not neccessarily spam (although in practice, of course, it's almost all spam)
[13:48:42] <xpoint> gspr, then your postfix / mailman install is brokken if its not doing this by default
[13:49:30] <shasta> xpoint, you're wrong
[13:49:53] <xpoint> shasta, i dont have the problem
[13:50:09] <shasta> and you clearly don't understand what gspr wants to achieve ;)
[13:50:10] <xpoint> it might be wroung :)
[13:50:24] <xpoint> shasta, he want a beer
[13:50:48] <gspr> xpoint: Really? The impression I have from both Postfix and Mailman documentation (and Postfix+Mailman documentation) is that this is the standard behaviour. Say dude at person dot com is not a member of private at list dot com, and tries to post. The default (and documentation-described) behaviour is for Postfix to deliver the mail to Mailman, which then notices that dude at person dot com is a non-member and is not allowed to post. Mailman then sends a mail
[13:50:49] <gspr> to dude at person dot com telling him his message was rejected.
[13:51:15] <xpoint> no one should solve non existing mailman troubles 31 december 2008
[13:51:17] <shasta> on the other hand, you can just discard non-member postings and live with it :)
[13:51:46] <gspr> shasta: That's my current setup
[13:51:58] <gspr> xpoint: That is a very good point indeed, and I shall soon stop ;)
[13:52:32] <gspr> however, few things are as boring as noon-time of december 31
[13:52:53] <gspr> outdone of course by the hurting of noon-time of january 1
[13:53:11] <shasta> remember that this year is 1 second longer than usual ;)
[13:53:20] <xpoint> only bug i have found in mailman is that it does not check sender domain on subscribe from web ui :(
[13:53:35] <shasta> and don't shout "happy new year" too early :P
[13:54:00] <gspr> heh, yeah, that would be embarrassing
[13:54:19] <gspr> let's hope the party has NTP :p
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[13:57:04] <xpoint> gspr, can i have yout email addr on your exim ? i want to spam check your exim setup, if all goes well you do not recive any mail from me, but if your exim is brokken then you do
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[13:59:04] <gspr> xpoint: My exim? No exim around here... The stuff I talked about was just some random webpage I read...
[13:59:26] <xpoint> gspr, clever
[13:59:36] <gspr> incredibly
[13:59:43] <xpoint> you must NOT read mailman README
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[14:15:44] <xpoint> gspr, olso test bounce handling after you have done what you do
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[15:17:10] <_gm> hi
[15:17:15] <_gm> i m getting following message: (temporary failure. Command output: couldn't connect to lmtpd: Connection timed out_ 421 4.3.0 deliver: couldn't connect to lmtpd_)
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[16:02:44] <Kaushal> hi
[16:02:53] <Kaushal> what does deferred emails mean
[16:05:37] <roe_> it means that delivery failed and your mta will try again
[16:06:09] <Kaushal> roe_, Thanks
[16:07:55] <Kaushal> roe_, i have another questions
[16:08:12] <Kaushal> question*
[16:08:45] <Kaushal> are there any other conditions
[16:08:57] <Kaushal> similar to deferred emails
[16:09:08] <Kaushal> just for my knowledge
[16:09:16] <roe_> I dont' understand the question
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[16:10:41] <Kaushal> roe_, various conditions which the mta will report ?
[16:11:03] <roe_> there are many many reasons why mail will not get delivered properly
[16:11:07] <roe_> best to read your logs
[16:14:07] <_gm> i m getting following message: (temporary failure. Command output: couldn't connect to lmtpd: Connection timed out_ 421 4.3.0 deliver: couldn't connect to lmtpd_)
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[16:34:45] <rob0> cite, pong?
[16:41:16] <xpoint> ping
[16:43:17] <rob0> You're trying to be annoying. Don't. That's sysmonk's job.
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[16:46:19] * cpm annoys rob0
[16:46:37] <sysmonk> yup
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[16:46:40] <rob0> !vice-versa
[16:46:41] <knoba> rob0: "vice-versa" : adv : with the order reversed; on the contrary; on opposite sides. eg: 'rob0 loathes cpm and vice-versa'
[16:47:35] <sysmonk> what time is it now at your place rob0 ?
[16:48:20] <rob0> um, that's complicated :)
[16:48:45] <sysmonk> hmm, why ? :)
[16:49:10] <rob0> I use IRC from a server in UTC-5, but TZ is UTC. I live and breathe in UTC-6. So, 09:49.
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[16:49:57] <sysmonk> ah, i see
[16:50:00] <sysmonk> 17:50 here
[16:51:02] <f3ew> Wed Dec 31 21:21:20 IST 2008
[16:51:38] * f3ew pokes rob0 on the linkedin stuff
[16:51:43] <rob0> And I have to go stand in a long line of extorsion^Wproperty-tax payers at the courthouse, so I can keep the guys with guns away from my home another year.
[16:52:14] <rob0> f3ew, I'm traveling, that is, away from my usual computer, so that won't happen this year :)
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[16:52:33] <rob0> it will happen in January however
[16:53:44] <sysmonk> f3ew: let me poke you
[16:56:48] <sysmonk> now, how can i find f3ew on linkedin?
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[17:46:01] <rob0> cite, I'll be afk the rest of your year and most of the rest of mine. "/whois rob0" is a usable email address, as is the one I use to post to the list (see the sig, however.)
[17:53:41] <sysmonk> i see you like to play ping pong with cite
[17:53:42] <sysmonk> :)
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[18:11:12] <googlah> happy new year folks. :)
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[18:13:32] <AldoReset> hello, i would use postfix and pgsql but my postgresql server accetp only ssl connection ? where i must configure postfix to connect in sslmode ?
[18:19:48] <googlah> what are you trying to do
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[18:22:56] <InphraRed> hi guys, I'm looking into configuring postfix so that it only accepts emails defined in my aliase map (regardless of usernames).  but currently, if someone sends an email with a valid username it delivers, along with if someone sends an email that corresponds to an alias map.
[18:23:24] <AldoReset> i lookup pgsql table but i want use ssl to connect to pgsql
[18:23:39] <AldoReset> my pgsql is ssl on and ok, hostssl is actif.
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[18:25:55] <AldoReset> for example my postfix has: relay_domains = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/relay-domains.cf
[18:25:55] <AldoReset>  and relay domains has:
[18:25:55] <AldoReset>  sslmode         = require
[18:25:55] <AldoReset>  query = SELECT domain FROM domain WHERE domain = '%s' AND backupmx = true
[18:26:17] <AldoReset> but i have trivial-rewrite warning and fatal error
[18:30:45] <InphraRed> oh, I set local_recipient_maps
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[21:29:40] <BuenGenio> Wishing everyone a (upcoming) Happy New Year! Let 2009, 4707, 5770, 1430 for everyone be filled with joy, true happiness, peace and friendship. I'm sure we'll pull through the crises, recessions, deceptions, politics that try to distract us from our real nature - our unity with the nature and creatures that surround us, our strife for alliance and friendship, and a progress, whether personal, industrial or technological, that confirms our human capacity
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[22:31:00] * devdas finds an invitation from sysmonk and none from rob0
[22:31:51] * devdas accepts
[22:31:58] * devdas sends around new years greetings
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[22:57:51] <BuenGenio>  Happy New Year everyone!
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