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[00:10:53] <dragonbyte_> should I be putting Maildir in /home/user or /var/spool if I am going to be using dovecot-imapd to serve email?
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[00:38:35] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: a maildir lives in each users' homedir
[00:38:58] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: beware that you have to create these in a specific way; you cannot simply create a folder
[00:47:01] <sahil> if you deliver to maildir and it does not exist, postfix creates said maildir.
[00:47:12] <sahil> as least it does for all my virtual users. :-)
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[00:48:26] <newton> Hi, i'm wondering why i cannot login onto my server:(, i get this error trough telnet: -ERR Maildir invalid (no 'cur' directory)
[00:50:01] <jra> "login" ?
[00:50:20] <newton> Yes, after login, password.
[00:51:32] <jra> pop3 or imap? which server? in any case, doesn't sound like a postfix problem.
[00:51:41] <newton> Courier-imap .
[00:51:42] <adaptr> it's not
[00:51:51] <newton> I mean pop3 *
[00:52:00] <adaptr> still not
[00:52:44] <newton> Hmz,
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[00:57:30] <dragonbyte_> is maildir the prefered delivery these days?
[00:57:41] <dragonbyte_> and where should I have it deliver if I am going to be using dovecot-imapd?
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[00:58:47] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: maildir is one storage system, yes, and I do prefer it over mbox
[00:58:50] <adaptr> many people do
[00:59:01] <adaptr> there are two things to configure to use maildris
[00:59:01] <newton> I gtg.
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[00:59:19] <adaptr> !maildir
[00:59:19] <knoba> adaptr: "maildir" : a mailbox format introduced by qmail where emails are saved as individual files in a directory structure rather than into a single flat text file. Postfix settings like !home_mailbox and !virtual_mailbox_maps will allow delivery to maildir if the path value returned ends in /
[00:59:25] <adaptr> that's one
[00:59:40] <adaptr> the other is to configure dovecot with the same location
[01:00:29] <adaptr> restart both, and the maildir will be created the first time the user gets mail or accesses his mailbox
[01:06:02] <dragonbyte_> hmm
[01:07:20] <dragonbyte_> what is check_recipient_access for?
[01:08:52] <adaptr> !check_recipient_access
[01:08:53] <knoba> adaptr: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
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[01:09:08] <adaptr> try the manual sometime, it's pretty good!
[01:09:16] <dragonbyte_> well i knew that much
[01:09:26] <dragonbyte_> i don't follow what its purpose is though
[01:10:15] <adaptr> !access-readme
[01:10:16] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "access-readme" is not a valid command.
[01:10:18] <adaptr> !access_readme
[01:10:19] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "access_readme" is not a valid command.
[01:10:22] <adaptr> darnit!
[01:10:25] <adaptr> !access
[01:10:25] <knoba> adaptr: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.
[01:10:29] <adaptr> go
[01:10:29] <thumbs> adaptr fails
[01:10:39] <adaptr> thumbs gets bitten - agin!
[01:10:40] <rbd_> hi guys... I have two servers handling services corp.mydomain.com ...one is a postfix one (handles internal admin mail)....the other is a public zimbra-driven mail server (handles public facing mail)... I'd like to have it so that if I relay a message to a user at the internal mail server that doesn't exist, it will relay that out to the other mail server
[01:11:00] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_maps
[01:11:01] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).
[01:11:25] <adaptr> or just set
[01:11:28] <dragonbyte_> if i want a users email to be different than their system username i just add an alias for em correct?
[01:11:29] <adaptr> !luser_relay
[01:11:30] <knoba> adaptr: "luser_relay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional catch-all destination for unknown local(8) recipients. By default, mail for unknown recipients in domains that match $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces is returned as undeliverable.
[01:11:41] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: yes
[01:11:55] <rbd_> knoba, : great, thanks!
[01:15:06] * adaptr grumbles abotu ungrateful n00bs
[01:17:08] <dragonbyte_> adaptr: default postfix delivers mbox style to /var/spool/mail doesn't it?
[01:17:13] <rbd_> knoba, hmm. I put in luser_relay = $user at smtp dot corp.mydomain.com (the external server) ....this local mail server uses local user-based delivery...still having a problem deliverying to a user that is in /etc/passwd but doesn't have a maildir made (whcih is how I'd want it)...is there anyway to relay this out in the case that maildir delivery in any case fails?
[01:17:28] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: by default, it does
[01:17:40] <adaptr> rbd_: what is the $ for ?
[01:18:02] <rob0> knoba, you are one smart dude.
[01:18:16] <rob0> Surely smarter than mean old adaptr.
[01:18:46] <adaptr> it's time to separate the rob from his 0 once more, I see
[01:18:50] <sahil> rbd_: you are aware that knoba is a robotic entity, yes?
[01:19:04] <dragonbyte_> adaptr: should i bother changing that or just go with default dovecot-imapd and default postfix delivery?
[01:19:08] <rbd_> hah, I meant to send that to adaptr :)
[01:19:12] <rob0> ha, I reattached it with Super Glue!
[01:19:29] <adaptr> rob0: there go all your chances of ever becoming rob1
[01:19:29] <rbd_> adaptr, not sure, it's what I saw at http://www.postfix.org/rewrite.html
[01:19:35] <rbd_> is there another form I should be using?
[01:19:39] <rob0> robGLUE0
[01:19:39] <adaptr> rbd_: you misinterpreted
[01:20:13] <rob0> http://www.postfix.org/rewrite.html clearly states that it is outdated.
[01:21:16] <dragonbyte_> to make sure i didnt screw this up... /etc/alias format is emailname: localaccountname correct?
[01:22:17] <dragonbyte_> and does check local recipients happen before or after checking aliases?
[01:23:28] <jra> local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps
[01:23:48] <jra> first /etc/passwd, then alias_maps (which /etc/aliases should be part of)
[01:24:41] <jra> don't forget to run postmap /etc/aliases (or newaliases) after modifications
[01:24:57] <jra> </spoonfeeding>
[01:25:26] <adaptr> jra: indeed, why ?
[01:26:20] <jra> why what?
[01:26:48] <rob0> actually I'm not sure that a unix:passwd.byname hit overrides alias_maps. I'd look in "man local" if I were you.
[01:27:03] <rob0> And of course "man 5 aliases" for the syntax.
[01:27:10] <dragonbyte_> sorry I meant check_recipient_access
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[01:27:37] <Dex> http://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887
[01:27:38] <Dex> http://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887
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[01:28:04] <dragonbyte_> do I need to add the aliases into the recipients file that check_recipient_access uses or will /etc/aliases take effect first?
[01:30:19] <dragonbyte_> does that make sense?
[01:30:25] <adaptr> nope
[01:30:26] <rob0> not in the least, sorry
[01:30:51] <dragonbyte_> i have /etc/postfix/recipients that is foo at foo dot com   OK
[01:31:05] <dragonbyte_> and check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipients
[01:31:42] <dragonbyte_> if I create ebay-foo: foo in aliases do I only need the foo at foo dot com in the recipients file or do i need ebay-foo and foo
[01:32:03] <dragonbyte_> or am I totally misunderstanding what check_recipient_access is doing
[01:32:09] <rob0> probably
[01:32:21] <jra> we don't get why you're using that at all
[01:32:24] <rob0> (misunderstanding, I mean)
[01:33:18] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: we don't actually know what you're trying to achieve, so any advice will be a random guess
[01:35:20] <dragonbyte_> my understanding is that check_recipient_access ensures that only emails to valid addresses are accepted
[01:35:34] <adaptr> well, not necessarily
[01:36:22] <dragonbyte_> postfix.org suggests using smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_recipient_access
[01:36:27] <rob0> it's a restriction
[01:36:43] <rob0> where did you see that?
[01:37:01] <dragonbyte_> postfix.org/securityportal.200011/closet20001122.html
[01:37:28] <dragonbyte_> http://www.postfix.org/securityportal.200011/closet20001122.html
[01:37:41] <jra> postfix usually takes care of that by default, see smtpd_reject_unlisted_recipient
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[01:39:15] <rob0> You're totally confused. For one thing, that page is ancient. For another thing, it appears to be an archive of someone else's content. Third, you didn't read the whole line that the author was suggesting.
[01:39:20] <adaptr> dragonbyte_: and it did not dawn on you that an 8 year old howto is... well, 8 years old
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[01:39:34] <adaptr> which is like 5 computer generations
[01:39:55] <rob0> Postfix 1.0 days
[01:40:02] <dragonbyte_> adaptr: I found that setting originally in a howto a few months old, I found that description of it today
[01:40:20] <adaptr> yes, of course, the setting is still there, but please, start with
[01:40:21] <adaptr> !basic
[01:40:22] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[01:40:26] <rob0> Try starting here ^^ yes
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[01:44:59] <dragonbyte_> adaptr: i am well beyond getting incoming/outoing mail with postfix.  I am just curious about the guts of the restrictions and delivery stuff
[01:45:21] <dragonbyte_> i have set this stupid thing up a dozen times for simple delivery, figured it might be a good idea to look a little deeper into best practices
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[01:45:46] <dragonbyte_> didn't really expect a recent guide to include settings for a feature that is now automatically handled and defaults to on :(
[01:48:42] <adaptr> we still don't know what you want to do
[01:49:57] <dragonbyte_> nothing specifically, I can make postfix deliver mail as is, just going through settings, looking up what some of the settings from various guides actually do, etc
[01:51:28] <rob0> Try this: describe in simple, non-Postfix terms, what is the problem, and what is the desired goal?
[01:52:17] <dragonbyte_> thats the thing, there is no problem, i was just curious about how it does things...in this case the confusion was coming from looking at an old method to do something that postfix automagically handles now
[01:52:41] <rob0> oh
[01:53:10] <dragonbyte_> postfix is working peachy for me, i have set it up quite a few times using largely default settings beyond plugging in amavisd-new
[01:53:58] <dragonbyte_> I just rarely screw with much other than the defaults...i tried out scalix mailserver and got fed up pretty quick so wound up rebuilding the mailserver and setting up postfix from scratch
[01:54:10] <dragonbyte_> figure while its down I should research other tinkerings and tweakings :)
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[01:55:00] <adaptr> so.. you haven't ever actually implemented decent UCE controls ?
[01:55:08] <adaptr> because those are not default
[01:55:21] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[01:55:22] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[01:55:39] <dragonbyte_> adaptr: some of them
[01:55:44] <rob0> You should have something to block the obvious junk before content filtering.
[01:56:13] <dragonbyte_> permit_mynetworks, pop before smtp
[01:56:16] <dragonbyte_> few others I have used
[01:56:24] <dragonbyte_> but I have never gone through a comprehensive list of capabilities
[01:56:55] <adaptr> then you haven't done anything at all
[01:57:15] <adaptr> at least you haven't removed permit_mynetworks
[01:57:42] <adaptr> but I do hope you have reject_unauth_destination in there SOMEWHERE
[01:57:48] <adaptr> else you're running open relays
[01:57:52] <adaptr> yay you!
[01:57:53] <dragonbyte_> i know
[01:57:58] <adaptr> I have my doubts
[01:58:03] <dragonbyte_> reject_unauth_dest and reject_non_fqdn_recip
[01:58:18] <rob0> You can't be an open relay that easily.
[01:58:27] <adaptr> my BASIC setup has around 20 recipient restrictions set
[01:59:08] * adaptr attempts to separate the rob from his 0 once more... nnngghh nnnngghh damn superglue
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[02:51:59] <tanto> i'm not a postfix guy and someone changed this mail server config, now whenever mail originates from this server, it gets hit with relay access denied
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[02:52:12] <tanto> the server itself denies it
[02:52:21] <rob0> !relay_denied
[02:52:23] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[02:52:34] <rob0> What happened to your Postfix guy?
[02:52:40] <tanto> see that's the thing
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[02:52:51] <tanto> he fucked up the setup so i don't trust him basically :)
[02:53:03] <tanto> we typically don't use postfix anyways, let alone postfix for _mailing lists_
[02:53:07] <rob0> so trash it and start over
[02:53:17] <tanto> i can't do that either, hard to explain
[02:53:40] <tanto> this should work, right: mynetworks = hash:/etc/postfix/network_table
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[02:54:00] <tanto> or should it reference the network_table.db hash file?
[02:54:34] <rob0> hash: means exactly that
[02:54:58] <tanto> i don't follow, it means the line i pasted is correct, or it means it needs to reference the actual hashed db file?
[02:56:02] <tanto> nm postfix.org says "mynetworks = hash:/etc/postfix/network_table"
[02:56:38] <rob0> postmap(1) the file to generate the hash
[02:56:40] <tanto> the network_table file does contain "127.0.0.0/8     allow" and 127.0.0.1 is the IP getting denied
[02:56:46] <tanto> it's already been generated
[02:57:24] <rob0> so just list the IP addresses in main.cf until you figure out the syntax
[02:58:03] <tanto> so you don't need allow?
[02:58:20] <rob0> postconf.5.html#mynetworks
[02:58:27] <tanto> it looks like it should be a.b.c.d/xx to allow and !a.b.c.d/xx to deny
[02:58:41] <tanto> oh wait nm
[03:03:39] <tanto> i have to omany blocks to put in main.cf
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[03:06:08] <rob0> !cidr
[03:06:09] <knoba> rob0: "cidr" : cidr_table(5) - format of Postfix CIDR table. Lookup table in Classless Inter-Domain Routing form. In this case, each input is compared against a list of patterns. When a match is found, the corresponding result is returned and the search is terminated.
[03:07:39] <tanto> i just need to let any ip relay
[03:07:51] <tanto> and screw trying to do that in postfix, i'll just do it with the firewall
[03:08:24] <tanto> i need to make this work fast, rather than trial and error a solution..
[03:26:04] <tanto> for whatever reason, the network_table file wasn't correct
[03:26:48] <tanto> i don't know how to fix it so i just added mynetworks = 0.0.0.0/0 to main.cf and commented out the mynetworks line referencing the hash file
[03:35:36] <rob0> 0.0.0.0/0
[03:36:27] <rob0> I hope you blocked most of that in the firewall
[03:39:38] <tanto> it was already blocked in firefox
[03:39:39] <tanto> err firewall
[03:39:44] <tanto> i found the problem with the postfix config too
[03:39:53] <tanto> mynetworks = cidr:/etc/postfix/network_table
[03:39:57] <tanto> that's how it should have looked
[03:40:09] <tanto> i hate email and i hate troubleshooting mail problems. :(
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[06:13:04] <jangell> does it cache them or something?
[06:14:46] <jangell> actually...it seems like there is a cache.. If I stop / start postfix and then add the domain it'll pick it up...but if i stop / start postfix,  try to e-mail the domain,  and then add the domain and try it again it doesnt
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[06:19:10] <FredZ> I have just installe postfix, and all inbound mail is being bounced (Relay access denied) and all outbound mail is being rejected (refused to talk to me). I have no idea what to look for or how to fix this. Any comments would be most helpful.
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[07:07:24] <elventails> Signum: thanks for the postfix isp style tutorial for debian
[07:07:46] <elventails> Signum: any suggestions on how I can have the users update their passwords? how've you handled that?
[07:08:21] <elventails> also - for anyone who's followed/setup that tutorial - any good setup to adding failover to it?
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[07:35:26] <jangell> elventails: you still around?
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[10:39:33] <Signum> elventails: Hi... great you like the tutorial. There are a few more or less usable (mainly PHP-based) web frontends that I link to from my page.
[10:40:18] <Signum> elventails: Failover shouldn't be that hard. Set up a second machine with a lower MX priority. Have the file system point to the same storage (a redundant NAS or whatever).
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[13:28:00] <pgega> hi
[13:28:43] <pgega> what option sets mailbox to /var/spool/mail/user instead of /home/user/.maildir
[13:29:09] <pgega> i need that postifx only for local delivery (no virual mailboxes)
[13:31:54] <pgega> queue_directory = /var/spool/mail ?
[13:32:24] <pgega> nope.
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[13:38:02] <newton> Helllo, i get this error:(, http://pastebin.com/m276fc84 someone know how to fix it?
[13:49:22] <newton> Someone ?
[13:55:40] <newton> Ok, that problem is gone.. i still cannot access my mail.
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[14:09:57] <newton> If anyone is alive?, http://pastebin.com/m5b8115e9 :(
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[14:11:52] <Aleons> How can i change the encryption of the postfix mysql server (I haven't postfixadmin) ?
[14:12:18] <wdp> sigh
[14:13:26] <Aleons> why ?
[14:21:10] <adaptr> because
[14:27:59] <wdp> Aleons, lets start at the beginning. a) postfix has nothing to do with mysql. b) what distribution are you using? c) what howto did u used to set up postfix with mysql? d) where are the configuration files stored for the postfix <-> mysql connection? e) did u checked these config files?
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[14:29:06] <wdp> newton
[14:29:07] <wdp> arg.
[14:29:08] <wdp> k
[14:29:15] <wdp> i was about to help.
[14:29:17] <wdp> :p
[14:32:05] <adaptr> wouldn't matter, he was equally clueless last night
[14:32:20] <adaptr> "here's my errorz, some1 fix it!"
[14:32:37] <Aleons> wdp i use this howto : https://www.starbridge.org/spip/spip.php?article12&artsuite=1 , i use debian V4, the configuration file is stocked in the postfix directory (/etc/postfix/)
[14:32:50] <Aleons> I have search "crypt" in the file without success
[14:33:36] <adaptr> Aleons: we have no idea what that is, or why you would use it
[14:33:51] <adaptr> you're going to have to learn how stuff works
[14:34:36] <wdp> adaptr, it's xmas time. we need to be nice to get presents
[14:34:39] <wdp> adaptr, u know?
[14:35:02] <wdp> thats why i suggest windows for most users atm
[14:35:03] <adaptr> wdp: perhaps you need to do that
[14:35:15] <adaptr> windows ? for...what ? mail servers ?
[14:35:18] <adaptr> are you retarded ?
[14:35:20] <wdp> ofcourse
[14:35:22] <wdp> very stable system
[14:35:26] <wdp> easy to set up
[14:35:33] <wdp> graphical configuration
[14:35:34] <shasta> micro$oft sexchange!
[14:35:42] <wdp> blue screens!
[14:35:47] <wdp> anything else u need?
[14:35:48] <wdp> :)
[14:37:00] <wdp> Aleons, too bad that i dont understand that language
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[14:37:40] <AldoReset> hi, i would like use ssl postgresql connection, how configure postfix ?
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[14:38:07] <adaptr> AldoReset: that makes zero sense
[14:38:11] <adaptr> elaborate
[14:38:47] <wdp> adaptr, that makes sense. come on.
[14:38:57] <wdp> adaptr, his postgresql is in japan and his postfix is in america.
[14:39:00] <wdp> ofc he needs ssl.
[14:39:02] <AldoReset> adaptr: postgresql server require ssl for connection. and i want postfix connect to this serveur and use ssl.
[14:39:04] <wdp> *hides*
[14:39:25] <adaptr> wdp: quite th enonsense or you're on ignore
[14:39:32] <wdp> .)
[14:39:33] <adaptr> damnit, you're making me type funny
[14:39:37] <wdp> :p
[14:39:46] <adaptr> !database
[14:39:47] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "database" is not a valid command.
[14:39:51] <adaptr> silly bot
[14:39:56] <adaptr> !database_readme
[14:39:56] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "database_readme" is not a valid command.
[14:39:59] <adaptr> pfft
[14:40:53] <AldoReset> virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:pgsql:  but connection is not in ssl. i would like force ssl connection to my postgresql database.
[14:41:21] <AldoReset> what must i check ?
[14:42:00] <adaptr> that is not a valid setting in any case
[14:43:20] <wdp> !sql
[14:43:21] <knoba> wdp: Error: "sql" is not a valid command.
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[15:56:40] <my007ms> hi all
[15:57:14] <my007ms> can i make my mail box store mails in database ?
[15:58:15] <sysmonk> yes, take a look at dbmail
[15:58:36] <sysmonk> there's also some other software archivex or something like that, but i don't remember how it's called
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[16:02:49] <my007ms> sysmonk i was think i can do this with postfix
[16:04:34] <sysmonk> no, postfix can't emails directly to database
[16:04:41] <sysmonk> postfix is MTA, not a LDA
[16:04:54] <sysmonk> although postfix has 2 lda included - local and virtual
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[16:11:42] <my007ms> thanks sysmonk
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[16:34:38] <AldoReset> hi, is it possible to connect to pgsql with ssl for postfix ?
[16:37:03] <rimad> you guys think its good idea to send out utf-8 encoded emails? or shall i stick to ISO-8859-2
[16:37:25] <adaptr> rimad: email is 7-bit ascii.
[16:37:25] <rimad> also i am using base64 Transfer-Encoding
[16:37:48] <rimad> yes but i base64 it :D
[16:37:58] <adaptr> no you don't
[16:38:04] <adaptr> no MTA will accept it
[16:38:19] <rimad> what are you talking about?
[16:38:27] <adaptr> define "email", then
[16:38:38] <rimad> i just sent utf-8 email with base64 Transfer-Encoding to hotmail, gmail and yahoo....all seem to work fine.
[16:39:04] <rimad> i am just worried a bit about those less common email services...if they support all this.
[16:39:07] <adaptr> no, you really don't
[16:39:18] <rimad> i really don't what?
[16:39:19] <adaptr> read my lips: email is 7-bit ASCII
[16:39:28] <rimad> thats what base64 is
[16:39:36] <thumbs> sigh
[16:39:39] <thumbs> adaptr: have fun
[16:39:45] <adaptr> thanks :)
[16:40:01] <adaptr> rimad: what do you think you mean when you say "email"
[16:40:07] <devdas> AldoReset: yes
[16:40:13] <thumbs> adaptr: surely, he knows better than you. Watch for it
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[16:40:56] <devdas> Ummm, you can encode the subject as UTF8, a base64 encode body will always be handled by any MUA
[16:41:04] <rimad> adaptr, lets not start from very begining :)
[16:41:09] <rimad> devdas, exactly...
[16:41:42] <adaptr> rimad: you had zero clue, you're just grasping onto anything that sounds like what you wanted to hear
[16:41:47] <devdas> So what is being missed here?
[16:41:56] <rimad> devdas, i wonder that too....
[16:42:09] <devdas> You cannot send recipient addresses in UTF8
[16:42:11] <adaptr> rimad: envelope, headers, body
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[16:42:25] <rimad> adatpr, what about it?
[16:42:27] <adaptr> NO MTA in existence cares what you put in th ebody of your email
[16:43:21] <adaptr> the envelope is ascii, the headers are mostly ascii; neither is amenable to encoding
[16:44:09] <rimad> you can Q encode all this
[16:44:11] <adaptr> and even though the RFCs forbid a body without any plain text parts, that doesn't stop microsoft from doing it
[16:44:32] <adaptr> no, you can't encode any of that
[16:44:40] <rimad> you can't Q encode subject?
[16:44:47] <thumbs> no
[16:44:50] <devdas> Other than that, nothing else
[16:44:53] <adaptr> the subject is "al this" ?
[16:44:54] <rimad> I just did...gmail does it too.
[16:45:00] <devdas> and you have to base64 encode subject
[16:45:44] <rimad> i base64 encode body only, subject is Q encoded...all other headers are ASCII as i don't really need any utf-8 stuff there.
[16:45:52] <adaptr> smartass
[16:45:55] <adaptr> you CAN'T
[16:46:23] <thumbs> adaptr: that's what I said last time too, exactly
[16:46:29] <adaptr> ah
[16:46:37] <rimad> adaptr, why is gmail doing it?
[16:46:49] <adaptr> rimad: am I google ?
[16:46:52] <adaptr> ask them
[16:47:09] <devdas> Or read RFC 5822?
[16:47:13] <rimad> subject i got from gmail on one of my "live" email accounts: Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Sve=BEe:_vo=F0a_pohvalio_ira=E8kog_novinara?=
[16:47:28] <rimad> and body: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2
[16:47:33] <rimad> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
[16:49:04] <adaptr> devdas: i know you meant 2822
[16:49:11] <AldoReset> devdas: yes what is the parametre to force ssl in postfix pgdql conf file ?
[16:49:15] <adaptr> we haven't got up to 5822 yet
[16:49:39] <devdas> I meant 5322
[16:49:46] <devdas> Or 5222
[16:50:31] <AldoReset> devdas: i add sslmode = require in cf file but it seems to not force ssl lookup pgsql
[16:50:58] <devdas> man pgsql_table?
[16:51:15] <AldoReset> nothing about that
[16:52:29] <rimad> so standard email protocol would suck for people in...greece for example
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[16:54:55] <adaptr> rimad: SMTP was created by English-speaking people mostly; this shows
[16:54:57] <AldoReset> well it seems not possible to connect in ssl
[16:55:29] <AldoReset> ls
[16:55:49] <jvm_> hi. i am using a courier setup with authmysql, and installed the latest etch security updates. now my old user names (usr12p34) do not work anymore, only the newer ones (abc at example dot com). mysql log shows courier is using WHERE user="usr12p34@hostname", while in the past it used only WHERE user="usr12p34". what changed? how to make it work again, without changing the old user names?
[16:56:03] <rimad> yea well, don't be surprised then if people break RFC here and there ;) i for once send non-english emails, if you have any "correct" way of doing this, please...enlighten me.
[16:56:24] <rimad> anyways off to gym, creatine is kicking in ;) laters
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[17:50:59] <Akiyuki> Is there a version of postfix for windows?
[17:51:11] <devdas> no
[17:51:56] <thumbs> windows is not a viable server platform
[17:52:08] <Akiyuki> i know
[17:52:14] <Akiyuki> but i need to send some mail in a hurry
[17:52:23] <Akiyuki> and my linux machine is having problems
[17:54:00] <devdas> Mercury
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[17:55:30] <thumbs> yeah, that'll work.
[17:56:23] <Akiyuki> what is mercury? besides a planet
[17:56:27] <Akiyuki> and an element
[17:56:37] <stockholm> a revision control system
[17:56:45] <Akiyuki> like svn?
[17:57:21] <rob0> poison?
[17:57:23] <devdas> Mercury is a MTA for Windows
[17:57:45] <rob0> And if it hits your bloodstream, watch out.
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[18:50:32] <sektor1952> afternoon
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[18:52:06] <sektor1952> I was following a couple of howtos for configuring postfix I got the service up and running with out errors and I am able to telnet to the port, but I get no reply back I verified that it is up and running and the port is listening
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[18:53:22] <sektor1952> meaning I get no ehlo
[18:53:55] <sektor1952> I am a little stumped
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[18:54:09] <sektor1952> I checked and rechecked the config
[18:56:14] <sektor1952> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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[19:09:07] <Stavros> hello
[19:09:30] <Stavros> i would like my system to be able to send emails, but i don't want it to receive anything or run a daemon, what do i have to configure postfix as?
[19:09:43] <wdp> Oo
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[19:13:10] <Stavros> anyone have any idea?
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[19:22:06] <rob0> !tell Stavros standard
[19:22:07] <knoba> Stavros: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[19:22:36] <Stavros> i am reading that but i'm not clear on whether i need to stop the daemon myself
[19:23:17] <Stavros> actually i'm not sure my usecase is on there
[19:23:44] <rob0> #null_client
[19:23:52] <Stavros> i want it to send local mail
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[19:27:08] <Stavros> any idea how i can do that?
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[19:27:51] <freq9> hi guys. cant send mails throught my mailserver because of auth problems. saslfinger -c says: http://nopaste.php-quake.net/123315 (saslfinger -s is in reply to -c paste)
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[19:31:19] <Stavros> actually i just want the daemon not to be running, what would that affect?
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[19:40:09] <rob0> freq9, if you need to do AUTH against a relayhost, you have to set it up first.
[19:40:12] <rob0> !sasl
[19:40:13] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[19:40:20] <rob0> !clientsasl
[19:40:21] <knoba> rob0: "clientsasl" : a way to have your Postfix authenticate at your relayhost. See: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[19:41:10] <freq9> rob0: found my mistake :) edited /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf instead of /usr/lib64/sasl2/smptd.conf :) i changed the server today and copied my configuration from 32bit to 64bit
[19:41:51] <Stavros> can someone help me with my configuration?
[19:42:25] <rob0> smtpd.conf is for SERVER auth, not CLIENT auth.
[19:42:41] <rob0> oh maybe that's what you said
[19:42:51] <rob0> "cant send mails throught my mailserver"
[19:42:58] <rob0> ambiguous
[19:43:21] <freq9> woooohoooo :) its working
[19:43:51] <freq9> my_client -> my_server -> friends_client
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[19:45:49] <freq9> i know all components of my server incl. their installation and configuration but mailservers are evil :) i don't know very much about them but a friend helped me with configuration and i am always copying the files :D
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[19:47:50] <freq9> okay seems to work now as expected :) thanks and bye.
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[19:49:08] <Stavros> i would like my system to be able to send emails locally and to other systems, but i don't want it to receive anything or run the daemon, what do i have to configure postfix as?
[19:54:20] <sahil> Stavros: how do you expect postfix to receive email from clients (local one's) if it's not *LISTENING* for them?
[19:54:32] <Stavros> sahil: a command-line program?
[19:54:50] <sahil> postfix is a command line program.
[19:55:09] <Stavros> so why does it need to listen to a port?
[19:55:50] <sahil> you can configure it to listen to ONLY local connections.
[19:56:16] <Stavros> sahil: can i configure it not to listen to anything, and instead only send mail when launched through other programs?
[20:00:43] <rob0> Stavros, what, in all this time, have you tried, other than asking?
[20:00:52] <rob0> 18:31 < Stavros> actually i just want the daemon not to be running, what would that affect?
[20:00:56] <rob0> !tias
[20:00:57] <knoba> rob0: "tias" : Try It And See
[20:01:20] <Stavros> rob0: isn't it quicker if someone here just tells me, instead of having me try a million things and run into trouble later on?
[20:01:32] <rob0> sigh
[20:01:34] <Stavros> hell, you could have told me in the time it took you to type that out
[20:01:45] <rob0> ignored
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[20:02:58] <wdp> rob0, operation succesful. patient dead.
[20:03:04] <wdp> .)
[20:03:59] <rob0> A one-eyed smiley? What be that, matey, an eye patch, arrrrrr?
[20:04:33] <wdp> =>
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[20:13:30] <sahil> ah
[20:13:34] <sahil> the greek douchebag stavros.
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[20:59:52] <ckoehler> hm i set up a virtual domain and aliases for a simple forward per http://rackerhacker.com/2006/12/26/postfix-virtual-mailboxes-forwarding-externally/
[20:59:58] <ckoehler> and my logs show it's sent
[21:00:02] <ckoehler> but i never get it
[21:00:31] <ckoehler> any idea what i can check?
[21:00:36] <adaptr> the logs
[21:00:43] <adaptr> how do you know it has been sent ?
[21:01:16] <ckoehler> my logs tell me
[21:01:23] <ckoehler> looks like it worked this time
[21:01:23] <ckoehler> odd
[21:01:48] <ckoehler> stuff always works once i ask for help... thanks :)
[21:02:01] <adaptr> we know, we're omniscient like that
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[21:10:35] <Aleons> I understand !
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[22:39:29] <TGM> Hy, is there a way to get my postfix config info over php?
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[23:12:13] <adaptr> anybody want to take a guess at how smart that would be ?
[23:12:15] <adaptr> anybody ?
[23:17:50] <rob0> any ideas?
[23:18:03] <rob0> !any ideas
[23:18:04] <knoba> rob0: I have not seen ideas.
[23:18:12] <rob0> cute
[23:18:30] <rob0> !anybody
[23:18:31] <knoba> rob0: Error: "anybody" is not a valid command.
[23:18:39] <rob0> !seen anybody
[23:18:40] <knoba> rob0: I have not seen anybody.
[23:18:54] <adaptr> !seen robglue
[23:18:55] <knoba> adaptr: I have not seen robglue.
[23:18:59] <adaptr> I have!
[23:19:00] <rob0> !stupid ideas
[23:19:01] <knoba> rob0: Error: "stupid" is not a valid command.
[23:19:04] <adaptr> just this morning
[23:19:38] <rob0> !learn stupid as Stupid is as stupid does, my mama always told me.
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[23:37:03] <thumbs> !adaptr
[23:37:04] <knoba> thumbs: "adaptr" : a small shell script that floods the channel with factoids
[23:37:48] <thumbs> !learn adaptr is a small shell scrict that floods the channel with factoids or not to be trusted
[23:37:49] <knoba> thumbs: Invalid arguments for learn.
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[23:40:10] <thumbs> bah.
[23:40:13] <thumbs> how do I do this?
[23:42:23] <rob0> "as"
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[23:46:09] <thumbs> !learn adaptr as a small shell scrict that floods the channel with factoids or not to be trusted
[23:46:13] <thumbs> thanks
[23:46:15] <thumbs> !adaptr
[23:46:15] <knoba> thumbs: "adaptr" : (#1) a small shell script that floods the channel with factoids, or (#2) a small shell scrict that floods the channel with factoids or not to be trusted





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