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[00:18:39] <flinx> hi! have problem with log in to postfix. Use `#telnet localhost 25` for testing
[00:18:55] <flinx> use `auth plain login`
[00:19:36] <flinx> then base64 of string containing 'mylogin\0mylogin\0mypassword'
[00:20:05] <flinx> have error meggase: "535 5.7.0 Error: authentication failed:"
[00:21:41] <flinx> use "smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot"
[00:23:07] <flinx> in dovecot configs have this: "passdb passwd {}" "userdb passwd{}"
[00:23:33] <flinx> and have corresponding user in /etc/passwd
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[00:37:03] <Rockj> workaround.org's isp mail setup, Christoph made a ispmail.py script, anyone know if there's an update somewhere?
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[00:40:31] <rob0> flinx, it's a Dovecot question. Does IMAP work? And if not using PAM, you probably also need "passdb shadow".
[00:43:20] <flinx> rob0: I have problem with postfix not dovecot. I can successfully login to dovecot using same method (auth plain)
[00:46:16] <flinx> rob0: But, you know, you are right!
[00:46:44] <rob0> me, right? Always a first for everything, I suppose.
[00:47:22] <flinx> rob0: Thanks for advise! changing from passwd to shadow works!
[00:48:14] <flinx> rob0: Seems like i used wrong article about postfix configuration. They suggest to yse passwd as passdb.
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[01:01:03] <Signum> Rockj: You mean for the administration of accounts?
[01:01:51] <rob0> Ha, I figured you had gone to bed by now!
[01:02:29] <Signum> I wanted to. :)
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[01:05:01] <izzyb> How do I get my mail server to relay all mail, including local mail via a third party?
[01:05:20] <growltiger_> !relayhost
[01:05:20] <knoba> growltiger_: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid.
[01:05:49] <izzyb> Yeah, found that already but it only does non-local.  I need it to relay the local users also
[01:05:56] <growltiger_> !local_transport
[01:05:56] <knoba> growltiger_: "local_transport" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default mail delivery transport for local destinations. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces. This information can be overruled with the transport(5) table.
[01:06:07] <growltiger_> !transport_maps
[01:06:07] <knoba> growltiger_: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
[01:06:56] <izzyb> !transport
[01:06:57] <knoba> izzyb: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
[01:07:11] <timotiCK> Does anyone know of a tool that can be used to monitor incoming and outgoing emails???
[01:07:35] <timotiCK> something similiar to tail -f /var/log/mail/info/log
[01:10:25] <izzyb> You main a log analyzer?
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[01:12:24] <izzyb> timotiCK, have a look at lire
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[01:16:12] <timotiCK> izzyb: yes, that does realtime display...
[01:17:37] <izzyb> I'm not sure lire does real time display.  I have it sending me weekly reports but I just have a basic install.
[01:28:11] <keanne> good morning. im having lots of lost connection error with my relayhost while sending rcpt to, mail from, ehlo, data..etc. can anyone help me where i can possibly fix this problem? it's been a week, deferred queue are just piling up.
[01:28:56] <keanne> dns is not an issue, i have a single relayhost and i forward all my email directly to that host
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[02:28:13] <ArdRigh> can someone help me with a config for the transport file
[02:28:39] <ArdRigh> I have a postfix install on a box 10.10.1.4 that I want to be the main gateway for outgoing email. I want the other clients and servers to send email to this.
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[02:29:25] <ArdRigh> I configured the 10.10.1.4  main.cf $mydestination  with a $mydomain - but in the tranports file, do I enter a *    smtp:[10.10.1.4] entry?
[02:29:55] <lazarus477> Hallo. Is it possible to have the mail in one account moved to another account? I use postfix.
[02:30:09] <lazarus477> This is already exsisting mail which I want moved....
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[02:35:05] <lazarus477> Anyone?
[02:35:54] <rob0> cp ? chown ?
[02:36:06] <lazarus477> thats what I am thinking
[02:36:23] <lazarus477> nice to have a 2nd opinion on that thought :-)
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[02:40:10] <lazarus477> looks like that worked, cp and chown
[02:40:35] <lazarus477> did it in the /var/mail/ dir
[02:40:55] <lazarus477> wonder if an appended cat of the file would have been better....
[02:41:04] <lazarus477> in my situation it does not matter though
[02:41:36] <lazarus477> looks like there are about 1779 mails there, lol.
[02:41:37] <lazarus477> ty
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[02:45:20] <lazarus477> ok it worked
[02:45:25] <lazarus477> ty and ta ta
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[03:13:01] <ArdRigh> when doing a lookup for a hostname, does postfix look in /etc/hosts first before querying a DNS server?
[03:15:38] <shasta> it's up to your system resolver
[03:15:55] <shasta> man nsswitch.conf
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[03:44:36] <Rockj> Signum, yes.
[03:46:20] <Rockj> Signum, ispadmin.py it was. Weird it is not mention in the tutorial anylonger. Those web administrations are for mysql - while I have converted database schemas for postgres and is using that.
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[03:48:00] <Rockj> but I've updated to Debian Lenny, where sqlalchemy has different API. Maybe ill just try to sit down and fix that instead.
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[03:58:41] <cite> Good morning.
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[04:36:07] <rob0> ArdRigh, re: hosts / DNS, it depends. For mail routing, DNS is used. For resolving the name of a client which connects to smtpd(8), system resolver functions are used (which usually means /etc/hosts).
[04:36:49] <ArdRigh> rob0, ahh ok thanks
[04:37:13] <ArdRigh> The problem I am having is getting postfix on one server, to send mail to postfix on another server - both servers inside my work LAN
[04:37:27] <ArdRigh> if I set the IP, the mail seems to disappear
[04:37:48] <ArdRigh> the maillog says the mail being sent ... but it never gets to my mail box
[04:39:17] <ArdRigh> I can set $relayhost to external smtp hostname, and set relayhost to $mydomain which does an MX lookup and sends directly out to another external smtp host
[04:39:30] <ArdRigh> those methods both get my mail to my inbox (sitting on googlemail)
[04:40:14] <ArdRigh> but because these are VMs, I was hoping I could get Postfix to send all the mail through the physical server, rather than each VM individually sending out to external host
[04:46:15] <magyar> anyone using postgrey?
[04:46:22] <Dominian> yep
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[04:46:42] <magyar> Dominian: how is it working out for you?
[04:47:25] <Dominian> works fine
[04:47:30] <Dominian> although I like sqlgrey better
[04:47:39] <Dominian> I have one server that uses postgrey and one that does sqlgrey
[04:48:05] <cylix> Question for all you postfixers.  if you do a reject_rbl_client X in smtpd_client_restrictions it is redundant to do it in smtpd_recipient_restrictions correct?
[04:48:15] <magyar> i dont get it how it works, I see a server connects around 12:00 PM  gets greylisted, it tries resending the email in 3 hours stil greylisted
[04:48:19] <magyar> why is that?
[04:48:22] <cylix> Basicly its duplication and not needed thats what I'm asking.
[04:49:17] <magyar> i tought you answerd it also
[04:49:21] <rob0> cylix: One reject, in ANY stage, rejects the mail.
[04:49:24] <magyar> thought
[04:50:34] <cylix> rob0, right but the real question is if I put it in both and its ok in the client will it would it still waste time checking it again in recipient?
[04:50:54] <Dominian> magyar: you have something misconfigured then
[04:52:14] <magyar> Dominian: I did a default debian install
[04:52:22] <Dominian> heh
[04:52:25] <Dominian> that explains alot
[04:52:36] <Dominian> postgrey came with ubuntu server.. and it sucked.. I had to tweak the config to get it working properly
[04:53:47] <rob0> cylix, I don't think it would, but you could prove it to yourself with verbose logs.
[04:54:05] <cylix> rob0, thanks I will give it a go.
[04:55:15] <rob0> (I would just use it in smtpd_recipient_restrictions and be done with it.)
[04:56:18] <cylix> rob0, Thats true I seem to have read somewhere you because recipient is the last one checked you can put them all in there without worries and ignore the others.
[04:58:14] <sahil> Dominian: postgrey works just fine here and for many others, so something is wrong on your end.
[04:59:27] <Dominian> sahil: excuse me?
[04:59:50] <Dominian> sahil: may want to pay attention to your tab completion
[05:00:03] <sahil> Dominian: no.
[05:00:03] <sahil> 22:54 < Dominian> postgrey came with ubuntu server.. and it sucked.. I had to tweak the config to get it  working properly
[05:00:24] <sahil> postgrey works out of the box here; that is to say, you're wrong.
[05:00:33] <Dominian> uh huh
[05:00:35] <Dominian> Sure
[05:00:47] <Dominian> it was a clean install jackass
[05:00:57] <sahil> dickface, it works here.
[05:01:06] <Dominian> It does work for me you idiot.
[05:01:10] <sahil> perhaps now that i'm talking your language, you will comprehend?
[05:01:14] * rob0 feels the love in #postfix
[05:01:24] <Dominian> I've comprehended just fine
[05:01:34] <sahil> sigh.  wrong again.
[05:01:42] <rob0> Come on guys, we have n00bs we can pick on!
[05:02:45] <sahil> rob0: always the diplomat. :)
[05:03:00] <growltiger_> penisbutt
[05:03:05] <sahil> growltiger_: nice!
[05:03:05] <rob0> unless it's me doing the flaming ;)
[05:04:44] <rob0> One thing I know (think I know) about Postgrey: it needs BDB v.4, so if your default system db.h points to db3, that could be a problem.
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[07:00:25] <leplatdujour> HI there,
[07:01:05] <leplatdujour> I'm temporarily using my mac@home as a webserver, but I see the following troubling things in mail.log: http://drupalbin.com/4223
[07:02:55] <leplatdujour> especially things that say to=<ankawasaki at gmail dot com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
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[07:08:15] <leplatdujour> anyone?
[07:09:39] <UQlev> leplatdujour: I didn't get your matter of trouble
[07:09:58] <UQlev> message to ankawasaki at gmail dot com is delivered
[07:10:23] <UQlev> other address ankawasaki at gmail dot com is rejected
[07:10:26] <leplatdujour> Ok, but that shouldn't happen.
[07:10:48] <UQlev> I mean info at platbert dot nl
[07:11:31] <leplatdujour> I'm using a contact form on my website, and that should be mailed to info at platbert dot nl
[07:11:42] <leplatdujour> No other mail should be possible
[07:12:06] <leplatdujour> I don't know where those other mails come from.
[07:12:44] <UQlev> is platbert.nl your domain?
[07:12:53] <leplatdujour> yup
[07:13:05] <leplatdujour> in reverse, though
[07:13:17] <leplatdujour> plat <-> bert
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[07:13:27] <z\a> whats the latest TLS patch?
[07:14:25] <UQlev> leplatdujour: and is this address info at platbert dot nl existing one?
[07:14:28] <leplatdujour> how do I find that out? It's on Mac OSX...
[07:15:33] <UQlev> leplatdujour: try to access pop3 account unless it is alias
[07:15:53] <leplatdujour> UQlev: yep. But my mail hoster -- fastmail -- probably doesn't like accepting mails from dynamic ip ranges. But I'm more worried about the relayed mails to gmail and so on: I've no idea where they come from
[07:17:02] <UQlev> leplatdujour: if you don't know where they come from I don know either
[07:17:47] <leplatdujour> but can I limit postfix to only mail to info at platbert dot nl ?
[07:19:25] <UQlev> leplatdujour: and reject all others?
[07:19:59] <leplatdujour> UQlev: yes. Outgoing, that is; there shouldn't be any incoming
[07:20:08] <rob0> z\a: there hasn't been a TLS patch in maybe 5+years
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[07:21:09] <rob0> Ask Debian, they're the only ones left using pre-Postfix 2.2. (And the TLS patch in Debian is broken, unsupported.)
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[07:21:58] <UQlev> leplatdujour: if those messages are generated in your system and you restrict on outlet then your queue will be flooded soon
[07:23:07] <leplatdujour> UQlev: hmm... how about only accepting them from _www at margritte dot local?
[07:25:14] <UQlev> leplatdujour: regret, no clue
[07:29:54] <leplatdujour> UQlev: thx anyway
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[07:32:18] <z\a> how can i check if sasl and tls is working?
[07:33:03] <z\a> how can i check if my mail server accepts tls connection with sasl auth?
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[07:33:52] <n-iCe> hello, any tutorial to install posfix as email server in debian??
[07:34:13] <growltiger_> noone likes debian
[07:34:19] <growltiger_> !debian
[07:34:20] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "debian" is not a valid command.
[07:34:29] <growltiger_> !basic
[07:34:31] <knoba> growltiger_: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[07:34:43] <n-iCe> why not?
[07:34:55] <growltiger_> they mangle stuff
[07:35:05] <n-iCe> oh
[07:35:49] <growltiger_> you should probably do what you did with apache and remove the debian version and compile from source
[07:36:15] <z\a> telnet localhost 25 - EHLO domain.ltd doesnt do anything. does that mean tls and sasl is misconfigured?
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[07:46:22] <z\a> anyone?
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[07:57:04] <Haris1> Hello people
[07:59:12] <Haris1> This ( http://pastebin.ca/1268339 ) is from master.cf. amavis is listening on port public-IP:10024 and postfix is listening on 127.0.0.1:10025 and public-IP:25
[07:59:19] <Haris1> postfix says;
[08:00:01] <Haris1> I think I found the solution
[08:00:05] <Haris1> bad port in content_filter
[08:01:56] <Haris1> I have this in master.cf
[08:01:56] <Haris1> # grep content_filter main.cf
[08:01:56] <Haris1> content_filter = lmtp:[212.110.95.13]:10024
[08:02:04] <Haris1> correction: in main.cf
[08:02:16] <Haris1> and amavis IS listening on this IP and port
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[08:03:34] <Haris1> How do I make postfix re-try the mail queue?
[08:03:38] <Haris1> postqueue -?
[08:04:12] <rob0> "postfix flush" is what I do
[08:04:14] <Haris1> Nov 27 08:02:39 mc2 postfix/error[91780]: F1608478517: to=<root at mc2 dot mol.com.mk>, orig_to=<root>, relay=none, delay=363693, delays=363693/0.02/0/0.02, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 212.110.95.13[212.110.95.13]:10025: Connection refused)
[08:04:25] <Haris1> the content filter is set for port 10024
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[08:04:47] <Haris1> why is postfix still trying on port 10025 to amavis's box?
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[08:05:12] <Haris1> I have restarted postfix 3 times
[08:06:05] <rob0> man postsuper, see -r
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[08:07:29] <Haris1> Nov 27 08:05:53 mc2 postfix/postsuper[91809]: Requeued: 121 messages
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[08:11:23] <Haris1> now it worked, I think
[08:12:33] <Haris1> now amavis says: Nov 27 08:53:10 msc3 amavis[3346]: (!)DENIED ACCESS from IP 212.110.95.8, policy bank ''
[08:12:38] <Haris1> hmm
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[09:29:13] <Signum> Rockj: Hi... the admin tool was a bit buggy and I somehow lacked to motivation to fix it. Although I would something like that. The MySQL/PHP tools are nice but don't really help me.
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[09:55:23] <incd> How to make postfix forward/send backup copies of incoming email to gmail account? I have virtual transport to /home/vmail/domain/user.
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[09:58:31] <reisi> can i use postfix w/ ldap to do many to one mail forwarding (root at mydomain dot com -> all admins)?
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[10:10:58] <incd> Is it possible to set multiple destinations for one email address?
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[10:13:23] <bigtone> I am setting up a postfix as a prefiltering smtp gateway to my Zimbra mailserver (runs postfix too).  But I also want it to work as a store+forward, so that if the zimbra instance is off the air, or the network is down, then the prefilter will still receive emails for the right users
[10:14:03] <bigtone> so my thought was something like "relay_domains = ldap:/ldap/config/to/connect/to/zimbra hash:/a/local/dump/of/the/domains"
[10:14:38] <sysmonk> bigtone: depends on how you wanna store it
[10:14:44] <sysmonk> you can store it using always_bcc
[10:14:55] <bigtone> and same for relay_recipients_map.  My thought was that if the zimbra instance was working, postfix would work with an LDAP query.  If not, it would fall back to the hash
[10:14:57] <sysmonk> or you can store it using dont_remove
[10:15:00] <sysmonk> !dont_remove
[10:15:00] <knoba> sysmonk: "dont_remove" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Don't remove queue files and save them to the "saved" mail queue. This is a debugging aid. To inspect the envelope information and content of a Postfix queue file, use the postcat(1) command.
[10:15:02] <sysmonk> !always_bcc
[10:15:02] <knoba> sysmonk: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[10:15:04] <sysmonk> bigtone: ^^
[10:15:36] <bigtone> but if the LDAP doesn't work, it doesn't fall through to the hash
[10:15:52] <sysmonk> bigtone: it should 'fall back' to the hash
[10:16:38] <bigtone> sysmonk: good.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong.  To simulate breaking the LDAP, I changed the hostname to something that had no DNS entry
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[10:18:48] <sysmonk> it would be better to change it to something what has dns entries but doesn't have ldap runing, or the ip isn't up at all, so you'd see what kind of delays you would get
[10:20:17] <bigtone> yup, but now I suspect it's broken elsewhere - am tinkering now
[10:20:17] <bigtone> oh no, that's right, I let the config use TLS when the LDAP server doesn't offer it
[10:20:17] <bigtone> so deliberately broken
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[10:25:02] <bigtone> sysmonk: tried redirectinng to a new host.  I still get my SMTP session that tries to send the email timing out
[10:25:14] <bigtone> (swaks FTW!)
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[10:25:53] <bigtone> logs are full of postfix/trivial-rewrite[26365]: warning: dict_ldap_connect: Unable to bind to server ldap://web.home:389 as uid=zmpostfix,cn=appaccts,cn=zimbra: -1 (Can't contact LDAP server)
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[10:26:47] <bigtone> LDAP config files have a timeout, which I've set to 5 seconds, but that doesn't seem to help much
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[10:27:33] <bigtone> I can live with working off hash, I guess - I'll just automate sshing in and pulling a list of users and domains with zmprov
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[10:28:00] <bigtone> my other option is to set up an LDAP replica, but I think the learning curve is too steep to justify
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[10:57:37] <fleximus> I have smtpd_client_restrictions and smtpd_sender_restrictions in use. Now I want to whitelist a specific client and skip all sender restrictions. Is that possible?
[10:58:53] <sysmonk> yes, use the check_client_access in sender_restrictions
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[11:02:31] <fleximus> ah, sounds reasonable, I tried it in client_restrictions
[11:04:44] <zamba> what's the setting for how often postfix tries to deliver mail?
[11:04:50] <zamba> or requeue it
[11:05:37] <fleximus> zamba: the limit is the time, not how often
[11:06:29] <zamba> queue_run_delay - is that it?
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[11:08:45] <fleximus> zamba: what do you want to achieve?
[11:09:59] <zamba> first of all i want to verify what this interval is set to
[11:10:07] <zamba> and then make decisions based on that
[11:10:18] <Roobarb> zamba: its not one fixed value
[11:11:10] <zamba> Roobarb: it uses different strategies?
[11:11:26] <zamba> leaky bucket, fairness, slow start and so on?
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[11:11:42] <zamba> well, problem is that i had one email that sat in my queue for three days
[11:11:48] <Roobarb> indeed. the first retry will be reasonably quick, with a larget interval for each subsequent retry
[11:12:08] <Roobarb> zamba: what error code are you getting ?
[11:12:18] <fleximus> bounce_queue_lifetime and maximal_queue_lifetime are default 5 days
[11:12:32] <zamba> Roobarb: it was probably greylisting in the other end
[11:12:42] <zamba> tatus=deferred (host mx.online.no[193.213.115.10] said: 451 4.3.2 Please try again later (in reply to RCPT TO command))
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[11:12:59] <zamba> that was Nov 23 13:44:15
[11:13:06] <zamba> next time i see the same id in the log is:
[11:13:13] <zamba> Nov 24 12:40:53
[11:13:16] <zamba> nearly a day later
[11:13:23] <fleximus> looks like a longstanding, temporary problem
[11:13:55] <zamba> fleximus: with the mx at the other end? or mine?
[11:14:07] <Roobarb> the remote end
[11:14:20] <zamba> huh?
[11:14:23] <zamba> that's greylisting
[11:14:33] <Roobarb> are you sure?
[11:14:35] <zamba> status=deferred (host mr1.start.no[195.159.73.41] said: 450 4.2.0 <bjorsl
[11:14:36] <zamba> in at start dot no>: Recipient address rejected: Message temporarily rejected (Greylisted). Please send again in 300 seconds, an
[11:14:39] <zamba> d you will succeed. (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[11:14:39] <zamba> i also have that
[11:14:40] <fleximus> zamba: the other end. Or you could look if it relates to the recipient address. Try to write at postmaster at online dot no
[11:14:56] <zamba> and that was at Nov 23 13:44:12
[11:15:04] <fleximus> greylisting is normally for 5 minutes
[11:15:23] <zamba> the next time MY smtp tried delivering the very same email was Nov 24 12:40:55
[11:15:35] <zamba> and then it went through with no problems
[11:16:21] <zamba> so my retry limit is set way off
[11:16:33] <zamba> http://pastebin.com/m661fc30b
[11:16:34] <zamba> see that
[11:18:05] <Roobarb> you're talking about two different IP addresses
[11:18:24] <Roobarb> one is doing greylisting, the other is broken
[11:18:47] <zamba> the problem is related
[11:18:53] <Roobarb> how?
[11:18:55] <zamba> and that how often my smtp tries to send the email
[11:18:58] <zamba> that's
[11:19:28] <zamba> the delivery was greylisted with 300 seconds, but my smtp didn't try before nearly a day had passed
[11:19:38] <Roobarb> status=deferred (host mx.online.no[193.213.115.10] said: 451 4.3.2 Please try again later (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[11:19:43] <Roobarb> that is NOT a greylisting message.
[11:20:11] <zamba> forget that for now.. i'll provide some info about that as well
[11:20:23] <zamba> http://pastebin.com/m6a611b95
[11:20:25] <zamba> see that
[11:20:34] <zamba> that's the same queue id
[11:20:52] <zamba> what's wrong in the other end is irrelevant, what's interesting is how often MY smtp tries to deliver
[11:21:15] <zamba> it evidently interprets "please try again later" as nearly 24 hours later
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[11:22:37] <zamba> so the problem with those two are related, since they both provide a 451 status code, but my smtp doesn't retry for a very long time..
[11:22:43] <fleximus> sysmonk: in sender_restrictions my table is queried with the sender domain which is not the same as the client domain. I must whitelist the client domain...
[11:22:44] <zamba> wheather it be greylisting or something else
[11:23:11] <Roobarb> re-read yout logs. they are different codes
[11:23:15] <zamba> 450/451
[11:23:17] <zamba> get the point!
[11:23:30] <zamba> MY smtp doesn't retry for a very, very long time
[11:23:39] <Roobarb> 450 	Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[11:23:39] <Roobarb> 451 	Requested action aborted: local error in processing
[11:23:44] <zamba> *sigh*
[11:24:18] <zamba> ok, let's play your game then
[11:24:25] <zamba> 450 is greylisting, we agree on that?
[11:24:41] <fleximus> zamba: Why should your smtp retry every five minutes when the other side has a temporary problem that lasts longer like 15 minutes, half a day, one week....
[11:24:55] <zamba> .... forget the 451!
[11:25:05] <zamba> just look at the 450 and see the same, related error
[11:25:08] <zamba> that was my point
[11:25:16] <zamba> http://pastebin.com/m6a611b95
[11:25:30] <zamba> i meant this: http://pastebin.com/m661fc30b
[11:25:44] <zamba> greylisted and then didn't retry for nearly 24 hours
[11:26:25] <Roobarb> pastebin postconf -n output
[11:26:32] <fleximus> have you grepped for the queue id 7639511C081: ?
[11:26:37] <zamba> fleximus: yeah
[11:27:16] <zamba> fleximus: and that email address, since there was multiple recipients
[11:27:26] <fleximus> ok
[11:27:34] <zamba> # grep 7639511C081 mail.info | grep start.no | wc -l
[11:27:35] <zamba> 4
[11:27:55] <Roobarb> have you simply grepped for that ip address?
[11:28:22] <zamba> # grep 7639511C081 mail.info | grep start.no | cut -c 0-15
[11:28:23] <zamba> Nov 23 13:44:11
[11:28:23] <zamba> Nov 23 13:44:12
[11:28:23] <zamba> Nov 24 12:40:53
[11:28:23] <zamba> Nov 24 12:40:55
[11:28:23] <Roobarb> if you're getting more failures to that address, postfix probably won't retry for a different mail address either
[11:28:48] <zamba> ok, checking
[11:28:58] <zamba> # grep 195.159.73.41 mail.info | wc -l
[11:28:59] <zamba> 4
[11:29:13] <zamba> so only for that queue id
[11:29:20] <Roobarb> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#queue_run_delay
[11:29:51] <zamba> ah, so it was that setting :)
[11:30:18] <zamba> i'll set it to 300s
[11:30:42] <Roobarb> however, the default maximal_backoff_time is 4000s, which is just over 1 hour
[11:30:52] <Roobarb> 300s is the default for queue_run_delay
[11:31:05] <zamba> it was 1000s here
[11:31:25] <zamba> 4000s is just over one hour
[11:31:28] <fleximus> zamba: can you pastebin the postconf -n output?
[11:31:38] <zamba> so why in the * didn't it retry for nearly a day?
[11:31:55] <zamba> yup, one sec
[11:32:12] <Roobarb> you may want to ask on postfix-users
[11:32:34] <zamba> oh.. i think i found the problem here
[11:32:45] <zamba> maximal_backoff_time = 25h
[11:32:45] <zamba> minimal_backoff_time = 1d
[11:32:55] <zamba> why in the hell was this set?
[11:33:18] <zamba> they are explictly set in my configuration file
[11:33:38] <zamba> stupid debian configuration, probably
[11:33:40] <Roobarb> well there you go. if you remove those settings, postfix will revert to sane defaults
[11:33:52] <zamba> maximal_queue_lifetime = 1w
[11:33:54] <zamba> that's ok?
[11:33:57] <Roobarb> yes
[11:34:11] <fleximus> zamba: postconf -n gives you all settings that are different to the default postfix configuration
[11:34:20] <zamba> fleximus: yeah
[11:34:59] <zamba> hopefully this will fix this :)
[11:35:21] <fleximus> I still have a problem with client and sender restrictions
[11:37:19] <zamba> what's your problem?
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[11:38:39] <fleximus> I have set client_restrictions and sender_restrictions. I want to whitelist clients via a lookup table. That works, but the sender_restrictions still block it. I try to find out if the sender_restrictions can be skipped for that case
[11:43:20] <Roobarb> fleximus: smtpd_recipient_restrictions ?
[11:44:22] <fleximus> smtpd_recipient_restrictions extracts the domain of the sender which is different to the client domain
[11:45:11] <fleximus> Roobarb: and I want to whitelist the reverse lookup domain name
[11:46:24] <Roobarb> you can use the same restrictions in smtpd_recipient_restrictions as you do in smtpd_sender_restrictions
[11:47:36] <Roobarb> its generally simpler to put all your restrictions in smtpd_recipient_restrictions, and set smtpd_delay_reject = yes
[11:47:46] <Roobarb> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_delay_reject
[11:50:30] <fleximus> Roobarb: I have tried to put it in smtpd_recipient_restrictions. Looks like the wrong domain is queried by postfix then
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[12:55:09] <kaushal> hi
[12:55:39] <kaushal> when i do sudo mailq | grep "Excessive unknown recipients" | wc -l
[12:55:39] <kaushal> 4765
[12:56:02] <kaushal> how can i delete it in postfix
[12:56:13] <kaushal> I mean 4765
[12:56:44] <kaushal> if i do sudo postsuper -d ALL
[12:57:48] <kaushal> it will delete all
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[13:05:25] <kaushal> anybody awake here
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[14:49:32] <sysmonk> fleximus: why are you talking to me? :)
[14:50:04] <fleximus> sysmonk: you talked to me before trying to help with my problem :)
[14:50:37] * sysmonk doesn't remember
[14:59:34] <Haris_> are you guys here to fight?
[14:59:41] <Haris_> take! it! out!
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[15:26:04] <bahadunn> looking for info on sending to all users but only by approved users on a postfix system
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[15:26:19] <bahadunn> not sure if it is possible within postfix or what
[15:31:44] <pickcoder> how are they sending the mail
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[15:41:11] <bahadunn> pickcoder: no idea really
[15:41:27] <bahadunn> pickcoder: the boss wants to send email to all employees but only him and no one else
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[15:42:28] <pickcoder> if he's using SMTP to send the mail then either check_client_access or check_sender_access
[15:42:34] <pickcoder> !check_client_access
[15:42:35] <knoba> pickcoder: "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise
[15:42:40] <pickcoder> !check_sender_access
[15:42:41] <knoba> pickcoder: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[15:42:57] <bahadunn> okay thanks
[15:43:04] <pickcoder> it can be specified under smtpd_recipient_restrictions before your permits
[15:43:09] <pickcoder> or your denies
[15:43:32] <bahadunn> okay
[15:43:39] <bahadunn> will check it out
[15:46:44] <fleximus> to the recently arrived guys: How can I permit all smtpd_recipient_restrictions with a whitelisting in smtpd_client_restriction?
[15:47:32] <fleximus> I want to whitelist a clients hostname (reverse looked up)
[15:47:59] <sysmonk> as i mentioned before- put the check_client_access in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[15:48:41] <fleximus> sysmonk, again... the hosts domainname differs from the sending domain. The mails are getting received from a pass-through system
[15:48:54] <sysmonk> again
[15:48:59] <sysmonk> check_CLIENT_access
[15:49:14] <sysmonk> not check_SENDER_access
[15:49:25] <sysmonk> or do i have to spell it char by char? :)
[15:49:28] <fleximus> oO let me check it again
[15:49:29] <fleximus> :)
[15:49:39] <sysmonk> !check_client_access
[15:49:40] <knoba> sysmonk: "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise
[15:54:03] <fleximus> oh it works, thank you sysmonk!
[15:54:21] <fleximus> I'm using this with ldap lookups and had also change %d to %s back again
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[16:53:52] <dvl> What directive should I investigate if I'm tired of getting mail from servers with incorrect DNS?  such as Received: from nzfrjj.brasiltelecom.net.br (unknown [189.30.216.1])
[16:56:12] <jra> reject_unknown_client
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[16:56:49] <cedric33> hi i have a problem i have on my my virtuals domain is more spammed  i search to do when the mail is taged spam for this domain virtual  i rewrite the email adress to another  because i want to save all the spam mail on the special email (because perhapse it's a good mail not a spam )  thanks for your help
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[17:01:29] <dvl> jra: thanks.
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[17:04:08] <dvl> jra: seems it has been renamed to reject_unknown_client_hostname
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[18:56:19] <dupondje> is it possible to turn off postfix for people sending mail from the server ?
[18:56:39] <dupondje> so for the people that use the mailserver to send mail, and not receive
[18:59:19] <shasta> what?
[19:02:27] <dupondje> spamassassin i meant :p
[19:02:29] <dupondje> sorry :D
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[20:03:34] <clyphox> o/
[20:05:37] <hever> I'm using dovecot as MDA and I'm not sure what virtual_mailbox_domains lookup table must return. Actually I'm returning the path to that the mail should be delivered, but is that needed? (It's working but I'm going to understand it)
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[20:09:45] <hever> Sry I meant virtual_mailbox_maps.
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[20:11:08] <hever> I'm not sure about this because I can imagine dovecot looks itself for the mailbox location and doesn't use Postfixs informations. Further I can't see how the information is submitted from postfix to dovecot.
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[20:45:23] <zambaboo> hi all
[20:46:51] <zambaboo> im looking at various web based admin front ends for postfix+imap, commercial products are not excluded. can someone please recommend a package?
[20:47:12] <zambaboo> looking at atmail, postconf, ravencore (somewhat dead) and some free solutions
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[21:02:20] <clyphox> folks i've just setup my 1st mx
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[21:02:58] <clyphox> i was wondering if there were any recommended tests i could perform to ensure its 100% not a relay host just waiting for some script kiddie?
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[21:08:53] <higuita> !openrelay
[21:08:53] <knoba> higuita: "openrelay" : An open relay is a mail server that is set up incorrectly and accepts and forwards mails for strangers. This server will quickly be abused by spammers and blacklisted. Also ask me about smtpd_access
[21:09:09] <higuita> !openrelay_test
[21:09:09] <knoba> higuita: Error: "openrelay_test" is not a valid command.
[21:09:28] <higuita> clyphox: there are openrelay testers, search for it in google...
[21:12:47] <clyphox> higuita: rgr ta
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[21:47:11] <clyphox> higuita: its all checked out, i'm still paranoid tho lol
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[21:51:07] <higuita> :)
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[22:00:14] <rob0> higuita: did you write that !openrelay factoid?
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[22:02:15] <higuita> rob0: no, i was searching for the open relay tester, but no good
[22:03:19] <rob0> I want to amend it a bit, because it doesn't mention that Postfix is not likely to be an open relay.
[22:05:43] <rob0> learn openrelay as An open relay is a mail server that is set up incorrectly and accepts and forwards mails for strangers. It will quickly be identified and abused by spammers, then blacklisted. Postfix has numerous protections against becoming an open relay, so it is not likely to have this problem.
[22:06:37] <rob0> !forget openrelay
[22:06:43] <rob0> !learn openrelay as An open relay is a mail server that is set up incorrectly and accepts and forwards mails for strangers. It will quickly be identified and abused by spammers, then blacklisted. Postfix has numerous protections against becoming an open relay, so it is not likely to have this problem.
[22:06:53] <rob0> !openrelay
[22:06:53] <knoba> rob0: "openrelay" : An open relay is a mail server that is set up incorrectly and accepts and forwards mails for strangers. It will quickly be identified and abused by spammers, then blacklisted. Postfix has numerous protections against becoming an open relay, so it is not likely to have this problem.
[22:08:16] <xpoint> higuita, see logs if you relay mails to domains that are not local
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[22:18:54] <rob0> !seen f3ew_
[22:18:55] <knoba> rob0: f3ew_ was last seen in #postfix 19 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, 30 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <f3ew_> but this is spool, not queue
[22:19:01] <rob0> !seen f3ew
[22:19:01] <knoba> rob0: f3ew was last seen in #postfix 6 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <f3ew> !virtual_alias_maps
[22:19:44] <rob0> !seen devdas
[22:19:44] <knoba> rob0: devdas was last seen in #postfix 1 day, 11 hours, 29 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <devdas> remoteCTR1, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/x4679.html
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[22:28:53] <higuita> xpoint:  i know, i was helping other guy :D
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[23:12:10] <jduggan> bleh, off topic but i cant find an answer anywhere else, is there anyway to parse a body with sieve? like you can do if header :contains "subject" "string" is there an equivalent for body?
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