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[00:27:57] <stovenator> rob0: you still around?
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[00:38:09] <lunaphyte> i'm soaking rob0 in brine atm.
[00:46:52] <rob0> mmmm, I'm well-marinaded
[00:47:48] <stovenator> rob0 : I was going to ask how to use mailbox_command_maps on a per domain basis, but it looks as if I'll need to go with virtual
[00:49:50] <stovenator> rob0: can I set the mailbox_command within a virtual domain?
[00:49:51] <rob0> I think the mailbox_command_maps lookup is like any other email address lookup: user+extension@domain, user@domain, domain (in that order).
[00:49:56] <rob0> no
[00:50:06] <stovenator> hmmm
[00:50:24] <stovenator> ok
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[01:59:11] <ack_syn> hey... what you guys have to tell me about qpopper? is it a good mbox handler? I'm using it but my server's AVG is becoming very high (>150). proc is 100% iddle but avg high because of disk access. everytime appears lot of username.lock and username.pop. I know the best is use maildir, but I cannot change it now. What you guys have to tell me about this issue? Any sugestions are welcome. Ps.: Sorry my poor english.
[01:59:32] <livsom> what is the recommended what to have postfix start at system startup?
[02:01:27] <ack_syn> livsom, what? you mean what is the recommended way to start postfix at startup?
[02:02:16] <livsom> well, I am developing a rails app that sends mail - I've noticed on my mac, that postfix is not started when I reboot my machine...
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[02:02:54] <livsom> when I send this app to my customer, I want to give them instructions on how to make sure postfix starts when they reboot their RedHat server
[02:03:34] <livsom> so, yes that is my question
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[02:05:24] <ack_syn> IMO you'll have to make a simple script.. somthing like -> ps aux | grep $postfix_daemon_name ; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then; echo "POSTFIX UP!"; else; echo "POSTFIX DOWN!"; posfix start; fi
[02:05:57] <livsom> ack_syn: sweet, thanks - and where would that script go?
[02:06:44] <ack_syn> rc.local, search at google how make a script starts at start up using your linux distribution
[02:06:49] <livsom> ack_syn: other than having my app call that script, is there a RedHat location that should call that script?
[02:06:54] <livsom> i see
[02:06:56] <livsom> ok -
[02:07:09] <ack_syn> find /etc -name rc.local --print
[02:07:35] <ack_syn> can someone help me in my issue? please, its a little urgent :|
[02:09:37] <livsom> if I look at ps aux | grep postfix, I see 3 processes, which one is the one to monitor ?
[02:10:23] <livsom> " /usr/libexec/postfix/master "  ?
[02:10:31] <jra> yup
[02:10:56] <jra> no master, no postfix
[02:11:49] <ack_syn> anyone
[02:12:04] <ack_syn> just ps aux | grep postfix is fine
[02:12:47] <jra> 'postfix status' might be useful, too
[02:14:55] <ack_syn> yes, he should take a look in google
[02:24:21] <livsom> jra - I tried postfix status earlier, it didn't produce anything useful other than  " postfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration)  "
[02:24:35] <livsom> ack_syn: I did search google first... but didn't find anything useful
[02:28:41] <ack_syn> livsom ok
[02:28:48] <ack_syn> ps aux will work, you can rest in peace
[02:28:49] <ack_syn> lol
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[02:44:51] <_DeepBlue> How can I change queue_directory?
[02:45:05] <_DeepBlue> I thought that it should be on the main.cf
[02:45:37] <shasta> if any setting is missing from main.cf, postfix uses the default value
[02:45:53] <shasta> which you can know by issuing: postconf -d name_of_the_setting
[02:45:56] <_DeepBlue> how can I change it ?
[02:46:13] <jra> by editing main.cf or using postconf -e
[02:46:27] <_DeepBlue> I made this: postconf -ev queue_directory=/var/spool/postfix1
[02:46:33] <_DeepBlue> but it's not working
[02:46:50] <_DeepBlue> I still have the default queue
[02:47:33] <shasta> do you have queue_directory in main.cf now?
[02:47:46] <_DeepBlue> ah ok ok
[02:47:57] <_DeepBlue> if we change it in main.cf it works
[02:48:22] <_DeepBlue> I didn't think that it's such easier
[02:48:24] <_DeepBlue> :D
[02:48:29] <shasta> woot?
[02:48:36] <shasta> postconf -e edits main.cf
[02:49:03] <shasta> it doesn't tell the running postfix instance to change its settings on-the-fly
[02:49:34] <_DeepBlue> aha
[02:52:42] <_DeepBlue> okay 10x :)
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[02:59:40] <ack_syn> hey... what you guys have to tell me about qpopper? is it a good mbox handler? I'm using it but my server's AVG is becoming very high (>150). proc is 100% iddle but avg high because of disk access. everytime appears lot of username.lock and username.pop. I know the best is use maildir, but I cannot change it now. What you guys have to tell me about this issue? Any sugestions are welcome. Ps.: Sorry my poor english.
[03:00:33] <shasta> first of all, that's quite not a postfix issue
[03:01:09] <shasta> if you're experiencing high i/o load _and_ cannot migrate to maildirs, then migrate to some better (ie. dedicated) storage (:
[03:01:26] <ack_syn> oh really? ok ok, let me enter in the #qpopper channel ..
[03:02:09] <ack_syn> shasta, that's all for you? nothing else?
[03:02:32] <shasta> on the other hand, remote storage usually means nfs, and that sometimes means locking issues
[03:03:16] <jra> ...which wouldn't be an issue with maildir... :p
[03:03:21] <ack_syn> yes yes, I have already discard it
[03:03:23] <shasta> exactly my point
[03:03:35] <ack_syn> I cannot migrate it to maildir now
[03:04:00] <ack_syn> I'll but for now I have to stop this 'issue'
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[03:04:17] <shasta> you can always try other filesystems <:
[03:04:43] <shasta> or buy beefier hardware
[03:05:05] <jra> ramdisks!
[03:05:49] <shasta> locking on ramdisks would be good
[03:06:03] <UQlev> shasta: how many accounts do you handle?
[03:06:09] <shasta> storing mboxes, on the the other hand, wouldn't
[03:06:49] <shasta> me? one, of course, mine. do postmaster, root and abuse aliases count? (-;
[03:08:01] <UQlev> and it gives 150 proc avg?
[03:08:19] <ack_syn> shasta, that's in 'production'... may clients using
[03:08:26] <ack_syn> because of that I cannot migrate it
[03:08:34] <ack_syn> change fs neither
[03:08:49] <UQlev> shasta: sorry that q was to ack_syn
[03:08:57] <shasta> UQlev, i never said it did :)
[03:09:28] <ack_syn> UQlev, let me make a select counting
[03:09:35] <UQlev> ack_syn: how many pop3 accountd do you handle?
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[03:10:06] <ack_syn> UQlev, 2973
[03:10:22] <shasta> i wonder how did you let it happen in the first place
[03:10:37] <ack_syn> in a Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz + 1GB RAM + SATA-1 HardDisk
[03:10:46] <shasta> because it's not like the all 2973 accounts were added at the same time, along with their 200MB mailboxes
[03:10:55] <ack_syn> shasta, It have been working for years
[03:11:09] <ack_syn> this week it started to becoming high (load avg)
[03:11:13] <shasta> ... so noone paid attention? ;)
[03:11:30] <ack_syn> so I did, and I'm here now losing my night trying to solve it
[03:12:17] <shasta> what I mean is: it's very rare situation that such thing happens suddenly
[03:12:38] <shasta> there is a possibility that your disk is dying
[03:12:46] <ack_syn> yes, I believe in you.
[03:12:57] <rob0> It's 2974, they just hired a new guy
[03:12:57] <ack_syn> yes, in parallel I have configured a new server
[03:13:02] <ack_syn> using maildir, etc
[03:13:29] <ack_syn> but until the end of this week, I'd like to hold this 'old' one working
[03:13:46] <ack_syn> rob0, lol
[03:14:28] <shasta> hm, there was a pop3 daemon that could serve both mbox and maildir at the same time
[03:14:31] <ack_syn> the AVG isnt > 150 all the time. but many times it keeps > 20
[03:14:39] <shasta> (if i recall correctly)
[03:14:43] <ack_syn> yes, dovecot
[03:14:51] <ack_syn> I'm installing it
[03:15:17] <ack_syn> if I just killall -9 popper (qpopper) the AVG goes to .9
[03:15:42] <ack_syn> s/installing/configuring
[03:16:05] <ack_syn> but many bugs also.. ""missing UID (set mail_uid)""
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[03:17:15] <shasta> tpop3d can do both things at the same time
[03:18:03] <shasta> so you can't migrate, but you can kill the pop3 daemon? ;)
[03:19:54] <ack_syn> shasta, yes I can do it 00:00 quickly, before stopping at ipfw all SYN (setup) traffic DST PORT 110 :)
[03:22:19] <Haris_> Nov 26 03:20:27 mc2 postfix/master[81840]: fatal: /usr/local/etc/postfix/master.cf: line 25: bad transport type: smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
[03:23:08] <jra> Haris_: missing whitespace
[03:23:33] <Haris_> ?
[03:24:09] <Haris_> smtp-amavis  unix    -    -      y      -       2       smtp
[03:24:09] <Haris_> #-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
[03:24:15] <Haris_> I have commened it
[03:24:24] <Haris_> there's no problem of whitespace here
[03:25:14] <Haris_> done
[03:25:15] <Haris_> got it
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[03:26:42] <Haris_> why or how is whitespace siginificant here?
[03:29:00] <shasta> Haris_, sed -n '25p' /etc/postfix/master.cf
[03:29:08] <jra> "A logical line starts with non-whitespace text. A line that starts with whitespace continues a logical line."
[03:29:19] <jra> man 5 master
[03:30:04] <Haris_> # sed -n '25p' master.cf
[03:30:04] <Haris_>  -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
[03:30:33] <shasta> (i meant /usr/local/etc/postfix/master.cf of course)
[03:31:06] <shasta> well
[03:31:13] <shasta> i don't think you can do stuff like that:
[03:31:19] <shasta> smtp-amavis  unix    -    -      y      -       2       smtp
[03:31:21] <shasta> #-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
[03:31:25] <shasta>  -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
[03:31:49] <jra> should be no problem.
[03:31:58] <shasta> really?
[03:32:09] <shasta> (never tested it myself, i might be wrong)
[03:36:26] <Haris_> smtp-amavis  unix    -    -      y      -       2       smtp
[03:36:36] <Haris_> should that be smtp-amavis or just amavis
[03:37:16] <shasta> both are syntactically correct
[03:37:35] <Haris_> I'm not sure, why amavis is refusing connection to postfix, then
[03:37:49] <Haris_> amavis is running on its dedicated box
[03:38:07] <jra> it's just a name, whatever you feel like. but you usually define two services for amavisd, do the distinction between the receiving and re-injecting part makes sense
[03:38:21] <jra> s/do/so/
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[03:40:53] <Haris_> I have two
[03:41:06] <Haris_> one is -> 127.0.0.1:10025 inet    n    -    y    -    -    smtpd
[03:41:13] <Haris_> the other is -> smtp-amavis  unix    -    -      y      -       2       smtp
[03:41:35] <Haris_> also the number 2 needs to be increased to 15, iirc
[03:42:53] <Haris_> does -o mynetworks= matter in this case?
[03:43:07] <shasta> ehm
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[03:43:22] <shasta> amavisd-new has a nice documentation
[03:43:29] <Haris_> because I don't see in amavis's logs that postfix boxed pinged it with a connection
[03:43:31] <shasta> also the part regarding integrating it with postfix
[03:43:47] <Haris_> http://www.howtoforge.com/amavisd_postfix_debian_ubuntu
[03:43:57] <Haris_> there's no line for denying something
[03:44:07] <Haris_> http://www.freespamfilter.org/FC4.html#_Toc110999196
[03:44:19] <timotiCK> tail -f /var/log/mail/info.log
[03:44:25] <Haris_> I have this under 127.0.0.1:10025 inet    n    -    y    -    -    smtpd
[03:44:28] <shasta> !tutorial
[03:44:29] <knoba> shasta: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[03:44:32] <shasta> Haris_, ^^^^^^
[03:44:33] <Haris_> do I need to add my own IP there?
[03:44:40] <Haris_> shasta: I'v seen that one, thankyou
[03:45:13] <shasta> Haris_, postconf -h content_filter
[03:45:21] <Haris_> there is no info.log on postfix box. on amavis box its mail.info
[03:45:33] <Haris_> # postconf -h content_filter
[03:45:34] <Haris_> lmtp:[212.110.95.13]:10025
[03:45:54] <Haris_> ok, so it is expecting to hit port 10025 on the amavis box?
[03:46:04] <Haris_> or port 10024?
[03:46:19] <shasta> you asking me? *you* configured it that way <:
[03:47:15] <shasta> where did you get the content_filter line from, by the way? :>
[03:47:57] <Haris_> that's our own
[03:48:05] <Haris_> brb, gotta get the kid to school
[03:51:42] <jra> yup, that's the spirit. education first! don't let your kid fall to the dark side and grow an habit of sending uce. :p
[03:58:04] <timotiCK> does anyone out there have a main.cf file that works for postfix 2.5.1???...or know of a site where I can get one???.
[04:01:54] <growltiger_> mine wont work because i host different email domains than you
[04:02:36] <UQlev> timotiCK: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml
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[04:04:58] <cite> Good morning.
[04:05:57] <UQlev> timotiCK: http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4
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[04:10:37] <Rich_Morin> As http://pastie.org/324177 details, we need some help getting our content filter to run after Postfix rejects mail to non-existent addresses. Help?
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[04:17:37] <UQlev> flags=Rq user=spammonster argv=/usr/local/bin/spamchk -f ${sender}
[04:17:37] <UQlev> ent}
[04:17:43] <Rich_Morin> As background info, if email is addressed to a number of addresses, more than one of which is at a single domain, will only one copy of the message be delivered (via SMTP) to the domain?  That would make sense, but I dunno...
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[04:18:15] <UQlev> why there is line break?
[04:18:45] <Rich_Morin> Sorry about the line breaks - that text was emailed to me.
[04:18:59] <deface> Rich_Morin: your referring to a single message instance, and no
[04:19:12] <deface> like exchange
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[04:24:16] <Rich_Morin> So, ignoring the line breaks, how is the processing order controlled?
[04:25:20] <UQlev> !postqueue
[04:25:21] <knoba> UQlev: "postqueue" : The postqueue(1) command implements the Postfix user interface for queue management. It implements operations that are traditionally available via the sendmail(1) command. See the postsuper(1) command for queue operations that require super-user privileges such as deleting a message from the queue or changing the status of a message.
[04:26:55] <UQlev> Rich_Morin: try to read this http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html
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[04:28:03] <ack_syn> shasta, have you already used dovecot?
[04:28:05] <ack_syn> pqp
[04:28:21] <ack_syn> have someone here already used dovecot?
[04:29:09] <UQlev> ack_syn: for pop3/imap or for auth?
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[04:35:00] <ack_syn> UQlev pop3 daemon
[04:35:14] <ack_syn> I want to know if it's really stable
[04:35:27] <ack_syn> much than qpopper (I'm using now)
[04:35:38] <ack_syn> s/much/more
[04:35:54] <UQlev> ack_syn: most people say it gives better performance than courier-imap
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[04:36:14] <UQlev> ack_syn: but I thing it refers to maildirs
[04:36:24] <ack_syn> hum
[04:36:30] <ack_syn> Using maildir I usually use courier
[04:36:40] <ack_syn> but in this case, I'm using mbox
[04:37:06] <UQlev> I guess you may convert mbox2mdir
[04:37:47] <ack_syn> ok, I must sleep
[04:37:51] <sahil> sleep
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[04:37:56] <ack_syn> good night, and thank for everyone
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[04:38:22] <Rich_Morin> We're already using an After-Queue Content Filter.  The problem is that we appear to be processing more than we should.  Specifically, if a message comes in with ten addresses, only one of which are for local recipients, it looks like ten items get stuffed in the queue.  Are we confused? Is there a way to verify what's going on?
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[04:42:21] <sahil> Rich_Morin: what is content of virtual?
[04:42:27] <sahil> specifically, /etc/postfix/virtual
[04:42:39] <sahil> do you have a silly catchall in there that effectively breaks recipient validation?
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[04:47:50] <Rich_Morin> sahil: The form of our file is shown in http://www.pastie.org/324205 (details elided for security).
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[05:15:03] <Rich_Morin> OK, we've done a bit more testing.  It appears, as detailed in http://www.pastie.org/324217, that messages with bad recipients in our main domain are getting rejected, but messages with bad recipients in our virtual domains are getting through to the queue for filtering, etc.
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[05:19:05] <Rich_Morin> Do we have a problem in our virtual file?
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[05:33:23] <rob0> !unknown_local
[05:33:23] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).
[05:34:17] <rob0> local_recipient_maps and virtual_alias_maps are a different lookup, your setting does not work.
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[05:45:26] <Rich_Morin> It appears that by sending @foo.com to bitbucket, we were causing PF to route this mail into the filtering queue.  By commenting out those entries, we have made the problem go away.  Thanks for the help!
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[05:49:25] <magyar> ! bounce_queue_lifetime
[05:49:25] <knoba> magyar: "bounce_queue_lifetime" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal time a bounce message is queued before it is considered undeliverable. By default, this is the same as the queue life time for regular mail.
[05:49:52] <magyar> ! maximal_queue_lifetime
[05:49:52] <knoba> magyar: "maximal_queue_lifetime" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal time a message is queued before it is sent back as undeliverable, the default value is 5 days.
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[06:11:42] <roe_> maximal?
[06:11:46] <roe_> that is an odd word
[06:12:52] <devdas> No
[06:13:06] <roe_> no it isn't?
[06:13:18] <devdas> No
[06:13:25] <roe_> it sounds like a cross between maximum and minimal
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[06:15:08] <rob0> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maximal they think it's a word
[06:15:30] <growltiger_> minimum/minimal
[06:15:34] <growltiger_> same principle
[06:15:42] <rob0> yup
[06:15:42] <roe_> I have no doubt it is a word, you just don't hear it often
[06:17:23] <andy_> hello, I've run into trouble setting up postfix on ubuntu hardy...it has to do with Cyrus Sasl / Postfix SMTP / MySQL not talking to one another, can anyone help?
[06:18:29] <devdas> andy_, logs?
[06:18:47] <andy_> yes, let me grab them
[06:18:53] <devdas> !debug
[06:18:54] <knoba> devdas: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[06:21:17] <andy_> I have not used debug before, but I'm looking at how it works.  Here's a link to a forum post I just made on the issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993662
[06:23:07] <andy_> my main issue is that I get this line in my /var/log/auth.log: Nov 25 21:55:55 larry-server postfix/smtpd[20568]: sql auxprop plugin using mysql engine
[06:23:17] <deface> andy_: thats your problem, your using ubuntu
[06:23:17] <andy_> but nothing shows up in /var/logs/mysql/mysql.log
[06:23:19] <deface> get a real os
[06:23:21] <deface> then come back
[06:24:50] <roe_> ubuntu server is better than more than a few of the other linux distros
[06:25:04] <andy_> we use ubuntu at my office, so I'm trying to become proficient in what I have to work with...I just want to know why Cyrus won't talk to mysql
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[06:25:43] <andy_> courier talks to it just fine, but when I try to connect with thunderbird to send a message, I just get sasl authentication denied
[06:27:10] <deface> authmysqlrc
[06:27:16] <deface> in /etc/courier/ ?
[06:27:46] <andy_> that part is working fine, authmysqlrc is doing it's job...it's the smtp side w/ postfix I can't get to use sasl properly
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[06:31:12] <deface> sure it is
[06:32:23] <andy_> well I can receive my mail ok w/ tls and authentication enabled...is authmysqlrc involved in the smtp side of things?
[06:33:20] <deface> sasl shouldnt be doing the mysql auth
[06:34:17] <devdas> Uh?
[06:34:27] <devdas> andy_, it may be
[06:34:29] <deface> meaning the way you have it setup
[06:34:37] <Dominian> !auth
[06:34:39] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "auth" is not a valid command.
[06:34:41] <Dominian> grrrr
[06:34:47] <Dominian> !smtp_auth
[06:34:47] <devdas> !sasl
[06:34:48] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "smtp_auth" is not a valid command.
[06:34:50] <knoba> devdas: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[06:34:52] <Dominian> devdas: that's the one
[06:35:03] <deface> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf .. is wrong
[06:35:14] <Dominian> man cyrus..argh
[06:35:16] <Dominian> dovecot ftw
[06:36:37] <deface> !guide
[06:36:38] <knoba> deface: Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
[06:36:39] <deface> !guides
[06:36:40] <knoba> deface: Error: "guides" is not a valid command.
[06:36:44] <deface> !howto
[06:36:45] <knoba> deface: Error: "howto" is not a valid command.
[06:36:46] <andy_> I originally had dovecot-sasl, but I wanted to try virtual users and most of the guides I found were for courier, so I went with courier instead
[06:36:48] <deface> blah
[06:37:34] <andy_> deface, what is the issue with smtpd.conf?
[06:37:45] <deface> ive never done it that route
[06:38:05] <deface> http://rafb.net/p/buNjAx39.html
[06:38:19] <Dominian> andy_: you switched to courier just because a guide for virtual users...
[06:38:25] * Dominian facepalms
[06:38:36] <Dominian> http://wiki.slackadelic.com
[06:38:42] <Dominian> mailserver tutorial on there.. uses postfix with dovecot
[06:38:45] <Dominian> should give you some ideas
[06:38:53] <Dominian> and virtual users all in mysql
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[06:52:17] <andy_22> thank you dominian....I don't have a lot of experience (obviously) setting up a mailserver, so I wanted something that was tailored specifically to the os I was using so I (hopefully) couldn't screw it up:)
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[06:53:13] <andy_22> i already did have an install working with everything but virtual users and tls, so I wanted to try something different
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[06:56:39] <andy_22> deface, I see that your smtpd.conf is quite different from my...does your setup utilize virtual users as well, and if so, where do you deal with the connection to mysql?
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[06:57:58] <andy_22> if there's a better or different way to handle the auth, I'd definitely give it a try
[06:58:29] <deface> andy_22: yes
[06:58:34] <deface> i do virtual through mysql
[06:58:42] <deface> and its handled through authmysqlrc
[06:58:44] <deface> like i said earlier
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[07:06:30] <andy_22> http://rafb.net/p/pGUOB841.html
[07:07:28] <andy_22> now I'm back to this issue with the auxpropfunc error no mechanism available
[07:14:15] <deface> google that error
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[07:30:33] <whiteflag> very simple question
[07:30:53] <whiteflag> how can I enable relay in postfix blindly to a particular ip ?
[07:31:29] <whiteflag> just like relaydomains in sendmail
[07:33:19] <growltiger_> !inet_interfaces
[07:33:20] <knoba> growltiger_: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.
[07:33:54] <whiteflag> knoba: any hint on my query ?
[07:36:35] <rob0> What does it mean?
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[07:36:59] <rob0> 06:32 < whiteflag> how can I enable relay in postfix blindly to a particular ip ?
[07:37:17] <rob0> That makes no sense to me.
[07:38:31] <whiteflag> rob0: ah, I would like to allow one ip to relay mails through my server..
[07:38:43] <rob0> !basic
[07:38:44] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[07:38:51] <rob0> !mynetworks
[07:38:52] <knoba> rob0: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[07:39:06] <whiteflag> rob0: blindly means.. no sender/recipient checks
[07:39:17] <whiteflag> just like open relay for that particular ip
[07:39:44] <growltiger_> put it in mynetworks
[07:39:47] <growltiger_> very simple
[07:39:53] <whiteflag> rob0: whos this knoba ? ;(
[07:40:02] <rob0> !knoba
[07:40:03] <knoba> rob0: "knoba" : an informational bot in this channel (see http://workaround.org/f=postfix)
[07:40:13] <whiteflag> yea, I know its simple.. that I mentioned in the quest
[07:40:36] <rob0> knoba keeps me from having to type the same answers over and over.
[07:40:37] <growltiger_> the quest was very hard
[07:40:46] <whiteflag> good
[07:40:48] <growltiger_> sense, it made none
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[07:41:19] <whiteflag> growltiger_: sorry for that
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[07:43:46] <whiteflag> !mynetworks_style
[07:43:48] <knoba> whiteflag: "mynetworks_style" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The method to generate the default value for the mynetworks parameter. This is the list of trusted networks for relay access control etc.
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[07:44:32] <rob0> and that is ignored if mynetworks is specified ... which is what you must do anyway.
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[07:57:40] <lkthomas> hey guys
[07:57:55] <lkthomas> does anyone actually using samba pdc account auth against postfix ?
[07:59:35] <rob0> sounds like a job for a PAM module
[08:00:22] <lkthomas> by logic, it should work, just wondering if anyone did that
[08:16:33] <whiteflag> rob0: suppose if I want to both mynetworks and relay_domains together , eg: relay mails from only one ip and only to domains listed in relay_domains   possible ?
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[08:19:49] <dan__t> Good morning.
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[08:20:27] <dan__t> Trying to troubleshoot an issue which I believe is related to virtual_mailbox_maps, in this case using MySQL as a backend.  I'm trying to specify a catch-all, which if I'm correct, should be @domain.com as the key, and abcd at efgh dot com as the value.
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[08:40:30] <growltiger_> !permit_inet_interfaces
[08:40:31] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "permit_inet_interfaces" is not a valid command.
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[08:42:54] <dan__t> eh?
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[08:58:08] <harlan> I hope I asked this long enough ago... I have postfix 2.6.20081012 on a machine with multiple virtual domains.  For some reason that I have not yet figured out, when I send email to vuser at vhost dot com, postfix tries to deliver ot to vuser at domain dot com, where domain.com is the "real" domain of the machine.  I am also treating the 'real' domain as a virtual domain so I can easily handle some virtual users on that box.
[08:58:23] <harlan> Any ideas on how I can figure out why this is going on and fix it?
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[09:09:08] <sysmonk> harlan: hey there
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[09:13:10] <harlan> hey sysmonk
[09:15:52] <sysmonk> harlan: pastebin the postconf -n and a sample delivery
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[09:19:25] <n-iCe> hello!!
[09:19:28] <n-iCe> :D
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[09:37:54] <growltiger_> I heard that weiners at a gay picnic taste like crap.
[09:45:37] <remoteCTR1> hi all!
[09:45:48] <remoteCTR1> how can i fix this please:
[09:45:58] <remoteCTR1> my mailserver stands behind a firewall
[09:46:19] <remoteCTR1> the firewall has several ip-address aliases
[09:46:44] <remoteCTR1> now if i send a mail it appears to be coming from a different ip adress then the mail servers ip
[09:47:26] <remoteCTR1> as a result i get error messages from some providers stating that my server isn't rfc compliant as the reverse lookup does not fit to the sender ip
[09:47:32] <remoteCTR1> how do i get this corrected?
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[10:05:14] <remoteCTR1> gawd this channel is so vain...
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[10:21:46] <Roobarb> remoteCTR1: sounds like your firewall is doing outbound source-nat
[10:22:01] <remoteCTR1> Roobarb: it does
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[10:22:23] <Roobarb> remoteCTR1: does your mail-server have a public ip address (ie: not rfc 1918) ?
[10:23:25] <remoteCTR1> Roobarb: yes and no one of the firewalls aliasses is a public adress and i forward all that comes to that ip on ports 25,110, and so on to the machine in the private net
[10:23:46] <Roobarb> ok, so both inbound and outbound connections will use the same public ip address?
[10:23:52] <remoteCTR1> Roobarb: that works like charms but the other direction seems to be the problem
[10:24:13] <remoteCTR1> Roobarb: that is the problem the outbound connections use a different ip
[10:24:38] <Roobarb> which they shouldn't
[10:24:38] <Haris1> remoteCTR1: NAT or SNAT that traffic out via the gateway's public IP
[10:24:38] <remoteCTR1> they use the standard ip of the firewall and not the appropriate alias...
[10:24:58] <Haris1> I can see google also its servers on LAN
[10:25:02] <Haris1> wit private IP addresses
[10:25:02] <Roobarb> Haris1: thats probably whats happening
[10:25:11] <Roobarb> which doesn't solve the problem
[10:25:11] <remoteCTR1> Haris1: as said the problem is the gateway has multiple public ips...
[10:25:25] <Haris1> remoteCTR1: so, configure it to NAT/SNAT is out with a specific IP
[10:25:33] <Roobarb> remoteCTR1: you ened to configure your firewall so it uses the same public address for both inbound and outbound connections
[10:25:40] <Haris1> if its configurable, that is :D
[10:25:55] <remoteCTR1> errrr oops
[10:25:57] <remoteCTR1> hehe
[10:26:05] <remoteCTR1> that is the question if i can do that
[10:26:20] <Roobarb> what kind of firewall is it?
[10:26:36] <remoteCTR1> its an ipcop
[10:26:43] <remoteCTR1> linux distribution
[10:26:48] <Roobarb> it should allow that behaviour
[10:26:52] <Haris1> probably uses iptables
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[10:26:59] <Haris1> it should be configurable =)
[10:27:01] <remoteCTR1> humm let me look into this...
[10:27:05] <remoteCTR1> yes it does
[10:27:12] <remoteCTR1> iptables i mean
[10:28:59] <devdas> remoteCTR1, you can do that
[10:29:23] <remoteCTR1> i am  not sure yet, still trying to :D
[10:30:20] <Haris1> You need a rule in NAT/POSTROUTING
[10:30:26] <Haris1> nat/POSTROUTING
[10:30:34] <Haris1> nat table, POSTROUTING chain
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[10:31:16] <devdas> iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -s <IP> --sport 25 -d 0/0 -j SNAT <PUBLIC_IP>
[10:33:05] <remoteCTR1> humm mkaes sense
[10:33:18] <remoteCTR1> via the web interface it does not work...
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[10:38:16] <michazoet> hi to all
[10:40:57] <remoteCTR1> devdas: somehow i dont get this iptables command to work, tells me that the public ip that i enter is an ivalid argument...?
[10:41:50] <devdas> did you miss an option
[10:42:17] <remoteCTR1> actially i copy pasted it and exchanged <IP> and <PUBLI_IP>
[10:43:57] <sysmonk> i'm not a linux type of guy
[10:43:58] <sysmonk> but afair
[10:44:06] <sysmonk> it has to be -j SNAT --to <PUBLIC_IP>
[10:45:15] <remoteCTR1> sysmonk: i was just going to ask if there is something missing after SNAT, thanks:)
[10:45:51] <sysmonk> it's not about 'after SNAT' it's about'before PUBLIC_IP' :)
[10:45:55] <remoteCTR1> err ok now it says unknown error :D
[10:46:01] <sysmonk> haha :)
[10:46:13] <remoteCTR1> iptables: Unknown error 4294967295
[10:46:18] <remoteCTR1> omg
[10:46:56] <sysmonk> seems like somebody is overloading an integer :P
[10:47:10] <remoteCTR1> ah it is -d not --to
[10:47:56] <remoteCTR1> or not...
[10:48:06] <remoteCTR1> yepp i just relized that
[10:48:30] <remoteCTR1> devdas: help!*g*
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[10:49:12] <sysmonk> remoteCTR1: pastebin the full command you're entering, and the error you get
[10:49:22] <sysmonk> + it's not a postfix issue
[10:49:37] <remoteCTR1> sysmonk: not directla, true...
[10:49:54] <sysmonk> remoteCTR1: the iptables not working isn't a postfix issue :P
[10:49:55] <sysmonk> anyway, afk
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[10:50:42] <devdas> remoteCTR1, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/x4679.html
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[10:51:01] <remoteCTR1> devdas: very nice, thanks!
[10:52:14] <Haris1> iptables is being discussed
[10:52:16] <Haris1> nice
[10:52:25] <Haris1> :p
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[11:25:48] <ribasushi> hi
[11:26:02] <ribasushi> what is the idea behind two (apparently different) deferred and defer queues?
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[11:38:25] <jonkristian> when running maildirmake, should it create .INBOX.* folders? There's an error on one e-mail account which is missing for example, .INBOX.Junk
[11:39:13] <jonkristian> Unable to create a dot-lock at /home/vmail/domain.com/user//.INBOX.Junk/
[11:39:24] <jonkristian> Don't understand why the // either
[11:46:03] <Hawk|> postfix default is maildir or mbox?
[11:47:09] <jonkristian> I'd think so
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[12:33:07] <peanu1> hi, if i send a mail and i add a bcc will it show in the logs?
[12:33:16] <peanu1> the bcc?
[12:34:06] <sysmonk> yes
[12:34:15] <sysmonk> bcc is just a usual recipient for postfix
[12:34:32] <peanu1> ohh ok thanks sysmonk
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[13:20:08] <sysmonk> snowing again... :)
[13:23:34] * cpm is pretty happy with the snow so far.
[13:24:00] <sysmonk> yeah
[13:24:01] <cpm> going to make it home, first time in almost a month this weekend. Kick off the ski season about a month early this year.
[13:24:08] <sysmonk> i just don't like when it starts to melt :(
[13:24:18] <cpm> yeah, that's messy.
[13:24:48] <cpm> Over here in the US, they love to salt the roads, so it keeps the roads nice and crappy, and kills your vehicle quickly.
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[13:40:03] <dante_cms> hey guys
[13:40:34] <dante_cms> i have a postfix setup but am having problems connection to it with Outlook 2002
[13:41:05] <dante_cms> I had outgoing issues with outlook but resolved them by creating a helo_access file and adding domain to it
[13:41:17] <dante_cms> now however outlook reports connecting problems
[13:42:06] <dante_cms> in my logs im getting "Unexpected SSL connection shutdown."
[13:42:13] <dante_cms> any ideas why this might be happening?
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[13:43:31] <sysmonk> cpm: same here
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[14:32:58] <vnunohp> p
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[15:29:07] <samix> salaam
[15:29:15] <samix> >	can I write a custom check for postfix ?
[15:29:23] <samix> can someone please guide me to the relevent docs
[15:29:54] <samix> I basically want postfix to look yp a database to figure out if the user is overquota and then reject the mail if so
[15:30:45] <sysmonk> !check_recipient_access
[15:30:45] <knoba> sysmonk: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[15:30:48] <sysmonk> samix: ^^
[15:31:17] <samix> sysmonk:, knoba checking
[15:36:26] <Haris________> knoba
[15:36:28] <Haris________> is a bot
[15:36:31] <Haris________> :P
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[15:36:54] <Haris_> ok, I have a problem with postfix -> amavis
[15:36:55] <sysmonk> REALLY?!
[15:37:03] * sysmonk didn't know knoba is a bot
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[15:43:53] <samix> if the user is over quota then can I send the message 'over quota' in the bounce back too ? and can I fetch this message from the database too a RDBMS database ?
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[15:51:43] <C_Kode> Hi, postfix doesn't require the /etc/postfix/tls_per_site on postfix 2.3 or later?
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[15:53:38] <Dominian> C_Kode: I've never seen that file
[15:53:53] <sysmonk> samix: bounces are evil, i don't offer you to bounce
[15:54:02] <sysmonk> but you can always reject with 'overquota' kind of message
[15:54:11] <sysmonk> and yes, you can get the info from RDBMS
[15:54:12] <sysmonk> i.e.
[15:54:13] <sysmonk> !mysql
[15:54:13] <knoba> sysmonk: "mysql" : http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html is helpful in configuring postfix to talk to a mysql server.
[15:54:15] <sysmonk> samix: ^^
[15:54:31] <samix> sysmonk:  thanks reading that up!
[15:54:48] <sysmonk> C_Kode: it might be a file you defined in the configuration yourself
[15:55:08] <C_Kode> I've setup Postfix to relay through gmail using sasl and the guide I followed said to set it up, but I just found something that said tls_per_site is no longer used after 2.3    I have no idea what it actually does
[15:55:58] <sysmonk> it all depends on the place where it is used
[15:56:17] <sysmonk> postfix doesn't require any files except main.cf, master.cf, and the queue directory structure ;)
[15:56:28] <sysmonk> every other file is specified through configuration
[15:56:31] <C_Kode> It says stuff like "smtp.gmail.com   MUST" and "my.server.com    MAY"
[15:56:33] <sysmonk> so you can call it any way you want
[15:56:53] <sysmonk> it MIGHT be smtp_tls_per_site, but it REALLY depends on WHERE THE **** in the configuration you use it
[15:57:01] <C_Kode> Not even for sasl?  I have to have the sasl_passwd.db file
[15:57:03] <sysmonk> Dominian: take over :)
[15:57:21] <sysmonk> Dominian: not in mood to help people who don't listen to me, or atleast don't understand what i'm saying
[15:57:46] <C_Kode> sysmonk, it's about understanding what it's doing.
[15:57:47] <samix> sysmonk: basically what I understood from the access man page was that I can also specify an action to take after doing a lookup
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[15:58:28] <sysmonk> samix: yes, like "REJECT User over quota"
[15:58:42] <sysmonk> reject != bounce
[15:58:44] <sysmonk> reject = good
[15:58:45] <sysmonk> bounce = evil
[15:58:48] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:59:16] <samix> sysmonk: so if this is my access database file http://pastebin.com/m72751dcf ,where do i specify the action ?
[15:59:35] <samix> sure sysmonk I will reject not bounce !
[15:59:42] <samix> :  )
[15:59:56] <sysmonk> wtf? hosts = /tmp
[16:00:55] <sysmonk> samix: anyway, that depends on your query
[16:01:03] <sysmonk> you can i.e. select "REJECT Over quota"
[16:01:16] <sysmonk> or, select, and use result_format to create the over quota message
[16:02:10] <sysmonk> i.e. select 'REJECT Over Quota' from users where user='%s' and cur_quota >= max_quota;
[16:02:48] <Dominian> sysmonk: I'm "busy"
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[16:02:49] <Dominian> sysmonk: :P
[16:02:54] <sysmonk> Dominian: riiiiight
[16:02:57] <Dominian> hehe
[16:03:03] <samix> hmm thanks sysmonk now its making sence to me, and that hosts /tmp was just any val that I filled in to make that file :  )
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[16:03:06] <Dominian> back to VoIP troubleshooting!
[16:03:38] <sysmonk> Dominian: i don't like the troble, but i sure do like the shooting...
[16:03:38] <sysmonk> ;)
[16:03:48] <sysmonk> trouble*
[16:04:06] <samix> sysmonk: many thanks to you again !
[16:04:32] <sysmonk> np
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[17:22:45] <seekwill> Oh look, newsletter arrived!
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[17:37:08] <turtle> I don't know if this is possible but I figured i'd pop in and ask. Lets say you have a natted network of retards who all legitimately hit your smtp server all day, one of these retards is just constantly sending big stupid attachments. is there any way to list in progress messages? i'd like to peak at the header and take a look at from and narrow down the retards..
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[17:38:08] <shabbs> hello. I'm having an issue where a gateway mail server defers some incoming mail after trying to connect to the internal mail server, with the following error: deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 10.10.10.3[10.10.10.3] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be sent more than once)
[17:38:55] <fleximus> Hello, can I do a client whitelist with ldap using the client's reverse looked up ip?
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[17:40:17] <shabbs> we do have a pix between the two, but the OS is 8.1, which should not be affected by the fixup error. However, it does seem that when postfix enables the pix workaround, the item goes through. I have smtp_pix_workaround_threshold_time = 0, yet it doesn't always enable the workaround
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[17:42:25] <pickcoder> shabbs: still having pix problems eh
[17:42:30] <shabbs> yeah :(
[17:43:34] <pickcoder> can you not tunnel the connection and avoid pix?
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[17:44:09] <roe_> every once in a while I start to like cisco, then I remember these stupid things
[17:44:18] <pickcoder> or put the gateway after the pix
[17:44:25] <pickcoder> let the public deal with the pix issue
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[17:44:53] <shabbs> I'm not sure they'd like it if I went around the pix. it's for packet inspection between... well everything
[17:45:27] <shabbs> and the gateway is technically after the pix
[17:45:33] <shabbs> the pix is between the gateway and internal
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[17:46:15] <pickcoder> well I don't own a cisco router so I can't help much
[17:46:52] <pickcoder> your logs last time demonstrated that postfix noticed the .crlf lag problem and turn on the workaround
[17:46:52] <roe_> I think it is only pixes not routers
[17:47:03] <Dominian> shabbs: what version of pix?
[17:47:10] <shabbs> what I don't understand though is if it's a pix problem, why is it only on the inbound side? internal forwards everything to gateway on the way out and it never gets stuck
[17:47:24] <Dominian> is it a 501?
[17:47:24] <shabbs> Dominian: 8.x
[17:47:29] <shabbs> oh the hardware
[17:47:35] <Dominian> then thats not a 501 hehe
[17:47:42] <Dominian> that's probably what.. a 515 or something?
[17:47:47] <shabbs> sounds right
[17:48:06] <Dominian> Basically the pix has a built in thing called a "fixup" on the 501s and on the 515s.. its uhhhh... crap... let me find it
[17:48:27] <shabbs> 515E
[17:48:31] <Dominian> Do you see something like "Fixup protocol smtp" in the config?
[17:48:36] <Dominian> er.. fixup
[17:48:46] <shabbs> nope, we've checked the config
[17:49:04] <Dominian> Let me guess.. when someone from the outside connects they get something like this "*****************************************************"
[17:49:35] <shabbs> 220 *****************************
[17:50:09] * pickcoder scratches his head
[17:50:15] <pickcoder> what does this mean:
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[17:50:29] <pickcoder> <user name> would like to recall the message, "title of my newsletter"
[17:50:41] <Dominian> shabbs: ok do you see something like "inspect esmtp" in the config?
[17:50:45] <pickcoder> I got a bounce back with the e-mail attached in previous bounce
[17:50:52] <Dominian> pickcoder: that's a microsoft exchange thing
[17:50:59] <Dominian> nothing you can do about it
[17:50:59] <seekwill> Outlook
[17:51:04] <pickcoder> ok.. but what does it mean
[17:51:17] <Dominian> When outlook is tied to exchange.. the user can "recall" a message that was sent
[17:51:24] <shabbs> Dominian: I'm not technically the network admin and I have no access to the config atm, but I think that's there iirc
[17:51:27] <shabbs> seekwill!
[17:51:29] <Dominian> meaning it wil send that notification and remove the message that ws originally sent from the server.
[17:51:31] <seekwill> Dominian: Not only with exchange.
[17:51:34] * seekwill shabbs
[17:51:36] <Dominian> shabbs: that needs to go a way
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[17:51:47] <Dominian> seekwill: Just saying.. I've never seen it anywhere other than exchange
[17:51:55] <Dominian> shabbs: no inspect esmtp
[17:51:56] <shabbs> Dominian: inspect esmtp = fixup? roughly?
[17:51:57] <pickcoder> so should I consider this a "remove me" request?
[17:51:57] <seekwill> Dominian: My dad recalls messages. He's not on Exchange
[17:51:59] <Dominian> shabbs: aye
[17:52:09] <shabbs> groovy
[17:52:09] <seekwill> pickcoder: No, it's when they send a message, but want to take it back
[17:52:10] <Dominian> seekwill: Yeah, does the recalled message actually get removed?
[17:52:15] <seekwill> Dominian: Nope
[17:52:17] <Dominian> on Exchange.. it does
[17:52:24] <pickcoder> ugh
[17:52:29] <pickcoder> I'm ignoring it
[17:52:30] <seekwill> Dominian: :)
[17:52:45] <Dominian> Its basically if someone sends a dumbass message to someone.. they are on exchange..t hey recall it.. it removes the dumbass message and leaves that note.
[17:52:48] <seekwill> If only everyone used Exchange, world would be a better place!
[17:52:51] * pickcoder hates sending mail out during holidays
[17:52:54] <Dominian> seekwill: ha!
[17:52:58] <seekwill> :)
[17:52:58] <pickcoder> >50% auto-responses
[17:53:06] <seekwill> pickcoder: hehe
[17:53:11] <samix> sysmonk: me at domain dot xxx    REJECT  OVERQUOTA
[17:53:17] <shabbs> Dominian: you wouldn't happen to know the security implications, if any, of removing inspect esmtp?
[17:53:24] <Dominian> thre are none that I know of
[17:53:36] <Dominian> on 501s and 515s I shut that off for clients that host email boxes internally
[17:53:45] <samix> but it is not sending OVERQUOTA it still sends access deinied
[17:53:45] <Dominian> its basically the firewall trying to "proxy" for smtp
[17:53:47] <Dominian> and that just does not work
[17:53:56] <shabbs> alright
[17:54:06] <Dominian> as there are timese that it strips out commands that need to be sent.... or it b0rks them
[17:54:12] <shabbs> friday I'll make sure that line is in there and then we'll remove it
[17:54:20] <Dominian> so shutting of inspect or fixup for that porotocol should fix it
[17:54:29] <shabbs> thanks
[17:54:33] <Dominian> np
[17:55:03] <samix> sysmonk: oops! I did not postmap!
[17:55:24] <pickcoder> postmap ftw
[17:55:35] <shabbs> seekwill: why is #mysql banning mibbit users? :(
[17:55:40] * jeev wishes if something were greylisted, the mail server would 'bounce' a message saying that the mail has been greylisted or warned, that it will try again
[17:55:59] <Dominian> jeev: that creates unnecessary backscatter if they did that
[17:56:06] <seekwill> shabbs: haha
[17:57:06] <jeev> really
[17:57:09] <jeev> my friend has been sending emails
[17:57:16] <jeev> sometimes some very secure companies
[17:57:18] <jeev> information scurity
[17:57:19] <jeev> i mean
[17:57:30] <jeev> will greylist him, it's very important emails, i often have to watch it greylist for two hours.
[17:58:17] <seekwill> jeev: That's what a graylist is...
[17:58:23] <jeev> yea
[17:58:26] <jeev> i'd like to notify the sender
[17:58:30] <jeev> what has happened
[17:58:31] <seekwill> jeev: oh
[17:58:38] <Dominian> eh
[17:58:46] <Dominian> not sure, but policy servers might dot hat
[17:58:51] <Dominian> I don't know if that's a good idea though.
[17:58:55] <Dominian> unnecessary backscatter
[17:58:57] <roe_> the sending mail server should be able to notify the sender that the message was delayed
[17:58:59] <seekwill> Yeah...
[17:59:09] <seekwill> The sending mailserver _could_ do that...
[17:59:20] <jeev> that's what i want..
[17:59:28] <Dominian> and what if the email messages are spoofed?
[17:59:29] <roe_> !delay_warning_time
[17:59:30] <knoba> roe_: "delay_warning_time" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The time after which the sender receives the message headers of mail that is still queued.
[17:59:38] <jeev> only if it's back in the queue
[17:59:40] <Dominian> and suddenly your friend gets 1000 emails to greylists he didn't send? :)
[17:59:41] <jeev> not spoofage
[17:59:42] <roe_> if you require smtp_auth no issue
[18:00:13] <Dominian> smtp_auth or not.. if you whitelist and entire subnet block to send through your mail server.. its a moot point
[18:00:31] <roe_> that is true, but why whitelist a subnet to begin with?
[18:02:41] <jeev> hmm
[18:03:53] <jeev> so i've got to use delay warning time
[18:04:34] <jeev> which is pretty much is the mail is delayed for the set number of minutes/seconds/hours.. then to notify the sender
[18:04:34] <jeev> ?
[18:04:43] <roe_> yup
[18:04:48] <jeev> cool
[18:04:58] <roe_> one of the more straight forward main.cf parameters
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[18:08:34] <jeev> hm
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[18:15:01] <jeev> i just bought a godaddy cert
[18:15:08] <jeev> thunderbird doesn't recognize it
[18:15:09] <jeev> great
[18:16:31] <roe_> did you use the godaddy ca file?
[18:16:37] <roe_> you need a "hint" certificate
[18:16:44] <roe_> I use godaddy certs as well
[18:16:50] <roe_> they work fine
[18:17:03] <jeev> maybe cause i requested other ?
[18:17:05] <jeev> should i say it's apache ?
[18:17:13] <roe_> nope
[18:17:18] <roe_> doesn't matter
[18:17:25] <jeev> they didn't send me their ca
[18:17:27] <jeev> no hint, nothing
[18:17:30] <jeev> just crt
[18:17:34] <roe_> nope, it is on their site
[18:17:38] <roe_> for download
[18:17:53] <jeev> https://certs.godaddy.com/Repository.go#root_der
[18:18:30] <jeev> https://certs.godaddy.com/repository/gd_intermediate.crt
[18:18:34] <jeev> what what i need?
[18:19:37] <roe_> looks right to me
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[18:19:56] <jeev> do i put that in my server.pem ?
[18:20:03] <jeev> i mean i dont have the option for intermediate in postfix
[18:20:25] <jeev> yea, worked
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[18:21:26] <jeev> roe_, know any mx's where i can test the email
[18:21:36] <roe_> what do you mean?
[18:21:46] <roe_> the cert is used for mua to mta communication
[18:21:46] <jeev> to see if the certificate passes
[18:21:52] <jeev> how about mta to mta ?
[18:22:01] <jeev> choicepoint is greylisting
[18:22:08] <jeev> cause it was a bullshit cert
[18:22:19] <roe_> I do not know
[18:22:53] <jeev> certificate verification failed for edge2.choicepoint.net[66.241.42.242]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority
[18:23:49] <jeev> send an email over to admin at choicepointprg dot net
[18:25:19] <roe_> are you asking me to?
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[19:26:41] <timotiCK> any particular reason why postfix will not write to /var/log/mail/info.log, but happi;y does to /var/log/mail/errors.log and /var/log/mail/warnings.log????.....
[19:27:14] <pickcoder> syslog config
[19:27:19] <timotiCK> the file seems to be empty
[19:27:25] <pickcoder> postfix uses syslog
[19:27:44] <pickcoder> refer to the syslog config manpage if you want to change logfile contents and locations
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[19:28:23] <pickcoder> IIRC there's three mail levels
[19:28:24] <timotiCK> etc/syslog.conf
[19:28:26] <pickcoder> .warn
[19:28:27] <pickcoder> .info
[19:28:28] <timotiCK> # Mail logging
[19:28:28] <timotiCK> mail.=debug;mail.=info;mail.=notice;mail.none	-/var/log/mail/info.log
[19:28:28] <timotiCK> mail.=warn					-/var/log/mail/warnings.log
[19:28:29] <timotiCK> mail.err					-/var/log/mail/errors.log
[19:28:29] <pickcoder> and .err
[19:29:23] * seekwill waits in line for pickcoder's black friday specials
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[19:29:39] <pickcoder> no friday specials here
[19:29:43] <seekwill> aww
[19:29:44] <pickcoder> just Cyber Monday
[19:29:59] <pickcoder> you should've gotten an e-mail already
[19:30:02] <seekwill> I did!
[19:30:18] <SchneiderWeisse> Hi, I'm testing postif and I want to set up a internet mail server
[19:30:27] <pickcoder> I think I need to be involved more with the "freebie" and gift deals
[19:30:39] <SchneiderWeisse> but I dont exactly understand what I should user for the mynetworks setting
[19:30:40] <pickcoder> who's gonna pay $48 for the toolmug
[19:30:52] * pickcoder goes back to the e-mail
[19:30:54] <SchneiderWeisse> 0/0 ?
[19:31:08] <pickcoder> !mynetworks
[19:31:08] <knoba> pickcoder: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[19:31:14] <pickcoder> meh
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[19:31:31] <pickcoder> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
[19:31:36] <pickcoder> er
[19:31:38] <pickcoder> or is it 16
[19:31:47] <zooko> Hm.  Does anyone use nmh any more?  There is no nmh channel on freenode.
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[19:31:57] <SchneiderWeisse> and everybody can send emails via smtp then?
[19:32:05] <pickcoder> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
[19:32:11] <zooko> Let me put it this way -- what mail client do you folks recommend?
[19:32:23] <timotiCK> pickcoder: my /etc/syslog.conf seems to be Ok...still no logging in info.log
[19:32:24] <roe_> nmh?
[19:32:31] <pickcoder> timotiCK: no clue
[19:32:49] * pickcoder uses roundcube when away from the office and outcast in the office
[19:33:04] * roe_ likes roundcube for webmail as well
[19:33:11] <seekwill> pickcoder: Need to sell Surefire
[19:34:09] <pickcoder> I'll tell prod dev
[19:34:29] <pickcoder> we're adding some new battery soldering irons from Wahl soon
[19:34:33] <pickcoder> they actually work..
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[19:35:20] <pickcoder> horrible tip design but they have enough mass to solder 16ga stranded wire
[19:36:40] <seekwill> hehe
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[19:39:25] <TGM> how can i send mails from something at mydomain dot com insetead of apache at mydomain dot com? pls point me to the config option thats related to this. ty
[19:39:51] <pickcoder> ~myorigin
[19:39:54] <pickcoder> ~myorigin
[19:39:56] <pickcoder> meh
[19:39:59] <pickcoder> !myorigin
[19:40:00] <knoba> pickcoder: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.
[19:41:01] <TGM> btw i use webmin
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[19:45:11] <TGM> and how can i get rid of the user id aka 80 that appears in the mail headers?
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[20:06:22] <rob0> pickcoder, I told him to RTFM sendmail(1) last night, he still hasn't done so.
[20:12:31] <rob0> !no_logs
[20:12:32] <knoba> rob0: "no_logs" : Nothing in your Postfix logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question.
[20:12:40] <rob0> timotiCK: ^^
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[20:26:46] <mgs``> Hey, would anyone mind helping me troubleshoot an issue between postfix and mysql? mail is all working properly except when I try to receive over imap/pop3 which then return something about the MySql db rejecting the username and pass. However, from the CLI i can enter mysql with the user and pass and all the grants are proper
[20:28:10] <lennard> thats not a postfix-issue
[20:28:20] <lennard> its a insert-your-imapd-here issue
[20:28:21] <mgs``> :(
[20:28:29] <mgs``> courier
[20:28:35] <mgs``> hehe, sorry
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[20:28:57] <mgs``> this is my first mail server and it's been several sleepless nights
[20:29:14] <lennard> you should consider working during the day :P
[20:29:22] <seekwill> lol
[20:29:35] <mgs``> day and nights :(
[20:30:10] <mgs``> postfix was great, it's everything else that has been driving me nuts.
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[20:31:08] <mgs``> Would anyone reccomend a better alternative to courier-imap for a ubuntu server?
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[20:34:30] <jra> I'll say Dovecot before somebody else does.
[20:34:59] <mgs``> :)
[20:35:20] <mgs``> i'm gonna give one last look over the conf files and before blowing this away
[20:35:40] <mgs``> but at this point, i can't stomach putting any more time into courier :(
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[20:43:11] <seekwill> Does courier have an IRC channel?
[20:44:46] <jra> who would've guessed..
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[21:01:02] <jonkristian> jra would've;)
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[21:15:10] <ecrist> hey folks, I'm getting a ton of errors: warning: problem talking to service rewrite: Unknown error: 0
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[21:15:19] <ecrist> any ideas?
[21:17:35] <ecrist> any ideas?
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[21:17:39] <ecrist> oops
[21:18:48] <rob0> oops?
[21:18:55] <seekwill> oops
[21:19:01] <jonkristian> hm
[21:19:02] <rob0> obviously
[21:19:21] <rob0> My idea is that you did something horribly wrong.
[21:19:38] <ecrist> what is service rewrite?
[21:20:49] <rob0> The answer to that question won't lead to a fix for the problem.
[21:21:52] <rob0> The answer to this question might: What horrible thing did you do?
[21:22:31] <ecrist> you have no clue, do you.
[21:23:06] <rob0> Well, look at it this way. My Postfix is running, and I am not asking questions in IRC.
[21:23:09] <Dominian> service rewrite.. you been playing in master.cf?
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[21:23:39] <seekwill> ecrist: What changed?
[21:23:49] <ecrist> I changed hostname
[21:24:14] <seekwill> You could be a little more specific...
[21:24:45] <ecrist> I changed master.cf, myhostname = snipe.secure-computing.net to myhostname = juno.secure-computing.net
[21:25:03] <rob0> myhostname set in master.cf ?
[21:25:19] <ecrist> main.cf, sorry
[21:30:04] <rob0> snipe.secure-computing.net. 3600 IN     A       209.240.66.149
[21:30:13] <rob0> juno.secure-computing.net. 3600 IN      A       173.8.113.98
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[21:33:56] <rob0> this is the same machine with two networks?
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[21:34:58] <ecrist> rob0: yes
[21:35:00] <kapipi_> Hello, I have a mail alias which points to a php script and a file for archiving. I moved the mail server and now postifx local has trouble to deliver to the archive file, it cant create a lock file. So im wondering, what user would postfix run as on a debian system?
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[21:35:18] <ecrist> restarting postfix and dovecot seems to have fixed the problem.
[21:35:22] <kapipi_> (its the local delivery part of postfix)
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[21:38:08] <rob0> kapipi_'s answer is probably found in "man local". Look for default_privs, my guess. Ask your distro maintainers about their nonstandard settings.
[21:44:25] <kapipi_> thank you rob0
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[21:54:57] <jeev> roe_, there?
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[22:19:33] <TGM> I got this spf flags from my domain host "v=spf1 a mx ptr -all" where should i put them?
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[22:28:59] <karrotx> TGM: in your master.cf file
[22:29:10] <karrotx> that way all the root dns servers can see it
[22:37:54] <magyar_> hi, how does postgrey works. I see in the logs an email server sending email a 12:00   that again at 14:00 and both times my server sends a greylist notification. Why is it?
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