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[00:43:29] <necroforest> Is it possible to have an encrypted maildir with postfix?
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[00:47:38] <shasta> encrypted maildir? wtf is that?
[00:48:55] <necroforest> postfix delivers mail to ~/Maildir/ ..
[00:49:00] <necroforest> can you have it encrypt the mail in there
[00:49:12] <rob0> Maildir on an encrypted FS volume? Sure, if the FS is mounted before Postfix delivers.
[00:49:15] <necroforest> i.e. so someone with root can't snoop around
[00:49:33] <cos> I've got a linux box running postfix 2.2 with mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail  - when procmail fails to deliver, I don't see an error.  anyone know how I can get procmail to log what it does?  (I don't see a procmail.log anywhere)
[00:49:51] <cos> necro: someone with root can get at postfix's config and arrange a way to see what's being delivered regardless
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[00:50:08] <rob0> There's no way other than GPG/PGP to protect your mail against your postmaster.
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[00:50:29] <cos> necro: you want the mail itself to be encrypted, before it even arrives
[00:50:46] <rob0> correct
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[00:51:54] <rob0> cos, read the various procmail man pages, I think it is LOGFILE that you want.
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[00:54:32] <cos> rob0: ahah, yes.  I didn't realize I needed to define something in the .procmailrc so I didn't know what I was looking for in the man pages.  thanks.
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[00:57:56] <necroforest> cons, rob0 thanks
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[02:02:17] <roe__> evening everyone
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[03:35:08] <c0rleone> night, anyone knows a good how to make a postfix tuning ?
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[03:51:24] <c0rleone> anyone ?
[03:52:19] <yesfreeBSD> !basic
[03:52:20] <knoba> yesfreeBSD: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[03:55:43] <hparker> !cheatsheet
[03:55:44] <knoba> hparker: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[03:55:52] <hparker> Another good one to read
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[04:04:01] <devdas> !tuning
[04:04:01] <knoba> devdas: Error: "tuning" is not a valid command.
[04:04:11] <devdas> TUNING_README.html
[04:05:14] <c0rleone> thanks
[04:05:16] <c0rleone> a lot
[04:10:58] <cite> Good morning.
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[07:34:45] <the_5th_1heel> Hi. I have a  postfix setup where i have multiple postfix servers, and where mail can come in to any postfix server, and it will direct it to the correct one with the relevant mailbox, is this called a cluster?
[07:35:42] <growltiger> you betcha
[07:36:31] <the_5th_1heel> mmm. Are there any howtos for setting up such a cluster? I have been looking around, but havent found anything... I need to clean up this mess of a mailserver I inherited
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[08:39:53] <Hawk|> morning
[08:40:06] <harlan> evening
[08:40:38] <Jense> morning :D
[08:42:27] <harlan> I've got a mailman list set up on a box, admin at site dot com.  I have a bunch of virtual domains, and for each of the virtual domains I create a virtual alias for
[08:42:41] <harlan> root at dom dot ain -> admin at site dot com
[08:43:10] <harlan> The problem is when I send email to root at dom dot ain postfix tries to deliver it to admin at dom dot ain instead of admin at site dot com.
[08:43:19] <harlan> Any ideas?
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[09:42:07] <sidh> hello everybody
[09:42:52] <sidh> i've installed postfix with sasl2 support and dovecot support
[09:43:05] <sidh> a postconf -a tells me
[09:43:22] <sidh> cyrus
[09:43:25] <sidh> dovecot
[09:44:05] <sidh> http://postfix.traduc.org/index.php/SASL_README.html <- here they say i have to edit a file called smtpd.conf
[09:44:13] <sidh> but i can not find it
[09:45:14] <sidh> do you think i can create it or is there a misconfiguration somewhere
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[10:05:14] <mfoniso> my log file (/var/log/mail.info on Suse 9.0) shows the following error: "451 Mail cannot be delivered, error in processing (in reply to end of DATA command)" Googlin' hasn't turned up much useful help. any ideas?
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[10:38:16] <Roobarb> mfoniso: thats a partial log message; please paste the fille like from your log
[10:39:04] <Roobarb> *full line
[10:43:05] <mfoniso> Roobarb: ok
[10:45:17] <mfoniso> Roobarb: Nov 25 11:45:34 hostname postfix/smtp[27818]: 4291D2311CD: to=<user@domain>, relay=localhost[127.0.0.1], delay=13, status=deferred (host localhost[127.0.0.1] said: 451 Mail cannot be delivered, error in processing (in reply to end of DATA command))
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[10:46:34] <Roobarb> are you using a content filter?
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[10:49:00] <mfoniso> Roobarb: I've turned those off
[10:49:37] <Roobarb> can you pastebin the output of "postconf -n" ?
[10:50:31] <xaka> any body can explain me how works "reject_unauth_destination" value in smtpd_recipient_restrictions paramter? Did I understand correctly if i try to send mail to local user i will be rejected?
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[10:53:20] <Roobarb> !reject_unauth_destination
[10:53:21] <knoba> Roobarb: Error: "reject_unauth_destination" is not a valid command.
[10:53:25] <Roobarb> pft
[10:53:42] <Roobarb> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#reject_unauth_destination
[10:56:02] <xaka> already read but have some problem with english and because not fully understand what means "unless one of the following is true" :)
[10:56:14] <mfoniso> here's the output of "postconf -n": http://www.pastie.org/323327
[10:56:32] <mfoniso> Roobarb: here's the output of "postconf -n": http://www.pastie.org/323327
[10:57:10] <Roobarb> mfoniso: line #5:  content_filter = smtp:[localhost]:10025
[10:57:34] <Roobarb> mfoniso: the delivery failure will be related to the content filter running on that port
[10:59:06] <Roobarb> xaka: Ok, it means that the RCPT TO: domain needs to be listed in $mydestination, $relay_domains, $virtual_alias_domains, or $virtual_mailbox_domains,
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[10:59:31] <stockhol1> hi
[10:59:42] <Roobarb> xaka: if someone sends a message to "fred at example dot com", then "example.com" needs to be listed in exactly one of those 4 settings.
[10:59:47] <stockhol1> is there a known workaround for the broken postifx install in debian etch (bad recipent delimiter debconf question looping, #232302)?
[11:00:10] <Roobarb> stockhol1: link?
[11:00:31] <xaka> Roobarb: wow! big thx :) i was embarrassed "unless one" words combination :)
[11:00:34] <stockhol1> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=232302
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[11:01:58] <Roobarb> stockholm: surely thats a Debian problem, not a Postfix one?
[11:03:20] <mfoniso> Roobarb: thanks, I'll look into that
[11:03:27] <stockholm> of course.
[11:03:41] <stockholm> i was asking if there was a workaround. someone here might know
[11:04:04] <stockholm> i talked to the maintainer, he knows about it (but back then i did not ask about a workaround)
[11:04:04] <Roobarb> I don't personally, but I don't use Debian on any of my servers (if I can help it)
[11:04:55] <Roobarb> stockholm: the errors described in that ticket appear to relate to a 3rd party configuration tool for Postfix, not Postfix itself
[11:10:14] <stockholm> Roobarb: didnt i just say that? its a debian bug. i was asking if you guys knew a workaround
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[11:22:06] <mfoniso> Roobarb: I still get that error if I comment out that line and restart postfix. how come?
[11:22:28] <mfoniso> i.e. if I comment out "content_filter = smtp:[localhost]:10025"
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[11:23:38] <Roobarb> mfoniso: does "postconf content_filter" still list it ?
[11:25:27] <mfoniso> Roobarb: "postconf content_filter" outputs  "content_filter ="
[11:27:40] <rob0> man postsuper, see -r
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[11:34:42] <mfoniso> rob0:thanks.. looks like I had to re-queue the messages
[11:34:50] <samix> salaam
[11:34:54] <mfoniso> Roobarb: thanks a lot for your help
[11:35:30] <samix> can I write my own check in postfix like there is a header_check etc, can I introduce my own custom check, can someone please guide me to such a document
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[11:46:16] <vnunohp> viva
[11:46:18] <Hawk|> which permissions do i need? "cannot create file exclusively: No such file or directory)"
[11:46:28] <Hawk|> the files exists
[11:46:34] <Hawk|> but the permissions seems to be wrong
[11:46:52] <Hawk|> and i dont want to set it to 777
[11:48:07] <Hawk|> is this correct?
[11:52:33] <devdas> 700
[11:52:45] <devdas> 600
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[11:58:26] <Hawk|> nope 600 is not the solution
[11:58:51] <devdas> 1777 on the directory
[12:00:39] <Hawk|> drwxrwxrwt  2 root    postfix 4096 Nov 25 12:36 mail
[12:00:52] <Hawk|> nope
[12:00:55] <Hawk|> still not
[12:02:14] <Hawk|> bah with 700 consolidate its not working either
[12:03:48] <Hawk|> and 777 consolidate doesn't work as well
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[13:44:50] <samix> guys I even googled for this can someone please tell me if I can implement a custom check for my postfix
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[14:59:46] <Hawk|> (cannot update mailbox /var/spool/mail/consolidate for user consolidate. cannot create file exclusively: No such file or directory)
[15:00:05] <Hawk|> someone got an idea? i can't find the problem
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[15:03:52] <Roobarb> Hawk|: on what platform ?
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[15:48:23] <Hawk|> Roobarb on centos 5.2
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[16:00:23] <cedric33> hi are there person who use razor to help me pelase
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[16:01:43] <cedric33> i have an server with razor installed and work but i want to see how it work because on the file config razor i have only logic_method = 4
[16:01:50] <cedric33> thanks
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[16:35:08] <roler> which postfix option will reject a sender when the client_name does not match the domain the user is sending email from?
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[16:48:40] <QuickGold> Why is it when I run the command for Postfix to start (/usr/sbin/postfix start) it says it's starting but if I try to do any other command, it reports Postfix is not running?
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[17:08:16] <brd> QuickGold: look at the logs
[17:08:32] <QuickGold> brd: i solved it, sendmail was running on port 25
[17:08:58] <brd> ah
[17:09:12] <brd> uninstall/disable it?
[17:09:31] <QuickGold> i turned sendmail off
[17:12:29] <Hawk|> status=bounced (cannot update mailbox /var/spool/mail/consolidate for user consolidate. cannot create file exclusively: No such file or directory)
[17:12:35] <Hawk|> still the same problems...
[17:12:54] <Hawk|> and i tried several chmod settings..
[17:12:56] <Hawk|> nothing
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[19:12:02] <roler> how do I check client_name against the claimed domain the user is sending from? I want to try to stop this spam from hacked servers
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[19:14:37] <growltiger> !reject_invalid_hostname
[19:14:38] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "reject_invalid_hostname" is not a valid command.
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[19:18:22] <growltiger_> !reject_invalid_hostname
[19:18:23] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "reject_invalid_hostname" is not a valid command.
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[19:19:58] <scandal>  i'm trying to figure out how to get postfix to check if the HELO/EHLO name resolves to the ip address that the client is connecting from, but i only see the option to check that the helo name *has* a record, not that it matches.
[19:20:10] <growltiger_> !reject_invalid_hostname
[19:20:11] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "reject_invalid_hostname" is not a valid command.
[19:20:32] <roler> lol
[19:21:03] <scandal> the docs say that reject_invalid_helo_hostname just checks for bad syntax
[19:21:35] <scandal> and reject_unknown_helo_hostname just checks for the presence of an A record
[19:21:49] <scandal> i dont see a check to make sure that it matches the client's IP
[19:21:51] <growltiger_> !
[19:21:51] <growltiger_> reject_unknown_sender_domain
[19:21:56] <growltiger_> !reject_unknown_sender_domain
[19:21:56] <knoba> growltiger_: "reject_unknown_sender_domain" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Checks the domain name in the MAIL FROM: address, to make sure it exists.
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[19:22:41] <growltiger_> !
[19:22:41] <growltiger_> reject_unknown_hostname
[19:22:46] <growltiger_> !reject_unknown_hostname
[19:22:47] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "reject_unknown_hostname" is not a valid command.
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[19:35:27] <roler> hmm
[19:36:12] <roler> I think I got it with those. thanks ;)
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[20:05:09] <stockholm> hi
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[20:06:04] <stockholm> how can i tie in spamassassin into postfix, so that incoming mails get scanned automatically? or should i use something like amavis and let it do the job?
[20:06:24] <Dominian> !cheatseat
[20:06:25] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "cheatseat" is not a valid command.
[20:06:36] <Dominian> grrr
[20:06:42] <Dominian> !cheatsheet
[20:06:43] <knoba> Dominian: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
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[20:09:31] <stovenator> I'm having an issue with using procmail as a transport agent
[20:09:48] <stovenator> should a mail to multiple recipients send a message to procmail for each recip?
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[20:10:40] <stovenator> using postfix 2.3.3
[20:11:34] <QuickGold> I tried to login into squirrelmail using a user and got the message "ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.
[20:11:34] <QuickGold> ".  I checked /var/log/maillog and found this: Nov 25 19:09:27 alpha imapd: chdir pokershark.com/matt/: No such file or directory
[20:11:47] <QuickGold> anyone know what I need to do to fix this?
[20:15:58] <Haris_> how good is http://www.maiamailguard.com/ for adding to postfix's setup?
[20:16:11] <stovenator> quickgold: likely an issue with your IMAP server and nothing to do with postfix
[20:16:24] <rob0> I've never tried Maia, but it does look interesting to me.
[20:16:29] <QuickGold> stovenator: isn't the imap server part of postfix?
[20:16:38] <rob0> So Haris_, check it out and let us know.
[20:16:43] <stovenator> nope, either Cyrus, or dovecot, or ...
[20:16:47] <rob0> !imap
[20:16:47] <knoba> rob0: "imap" : IMAP is an application layer Internet protocol that allows a client (MUA) to access mailboxes on a remote server (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP). Postfix does not provide IMAP (or POP3) service; see !courier or !dovecot for common IMAP/POP3 choices.
[20:17:27] <Haris_> I'm going to make a point of it
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[20:22:22] <rob0> stovenator: the typical use of procmail is as a per-user LDA with local(8) users.
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[20:22:51] <stovenator> rob0: I'm using a transport map, with certain domain having their transport agent set to procmail
[20:23:04] <rob0> I found that local, on its own, does most of what I would use procmail for.
[20:23:21] <stovenator> I see in the logfile that procmail is being initiated multiple times, (one for each recipient)
[20:23:46] <stovenator> but procmail is only being run once per email (not once per recipient)
[20:25:03] <rob0> I guess my point is that you're trying to force a round peg into a square hole. Whilst I am sure it can be done, I don't recommend it.
[20:25:44] <stovenator> using procmail delivery is a square hole?
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[20:32:16] <rob0> "The typical use of procmail is as a per-user LDA with local(8) users." That's how it was designed to be used. Invocation by local(8) as the recipient user, not via pipe(8) as default_privs or other designated user.
[20:33:08] <stovenator> is that in man 8 local ?
[20:33:45] <rob0> I guess my REAL point is that I'm not answering your question, I am just commenting that I don't like the design of what you're trying to do. :)
[20:33:51] <stovenator> oh
[20:33:52] <stovenator> :-)
[20:34:04] <stovenator> I am perfectly willing to switch to local
[20:34:18] <rob0> that would make it much easier
[20:34:26] <Dominian> local or dovecot
[20:34:37] <Dominian> if you're using dovecot that is
[20:34:45] <stovenator> my concern is having mail to local unix accounts separate ... and wanting that local delivery that isn't using procmail
[20:36:12] <rob0> I don't use mailbox_command any more (I did, years ago.) Any user who wants/needs procmail can use a .forward file. And if your mail users don't have shell access, YOU can manage their .forward files.
[20:36:19] <w1ll> I currently have 3 ips bound to 1 nic (eth0 1.1.1.1, eth0:1 1.1.1.2, eth0:2 1.1.1.3). I'd like to know if there's a way to make postfix use each of these ips when sending. I've looked around, but I'm not sure if I just don't know what to ask google or if it can't be done.
[20:37:51] <stovenator> rob0 : sounds good.
[20:38:53] <rob0> (just be sure that each user owns and can read it, of course)
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[21:50:38] <QuickGold> does postfix use sendmail?
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[21:51:23] <TGM> hy
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[21:53:24] <TGM> Where do i change the "Return-Path:   	 	 <apache@..." ? to something like mail@ ?
[21:54:46] <plee> QuickGold, postfix is an mta, as sendmail is
[21:54:53] <QuickGold> ll
[21:54:54] <QuickGold> kk
[21:55:15] <plee> :)
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[21:56:50] <QuickGold> im having a problem where when I try to send an email to a virtual domain account, I get this message back: mail for mail.pokershark.com loops back to myself
[21:56:54] <QuickGold> any ideas how to fix it?
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[21:58:09] <rob0> Postfix has its own version of the sendmail(1) binary.
[21:58:14] <rob0> !loopback
[21:58:15] <knoba> rob0: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains
[21:58:36] <rob0> TGM: man sendmail
[21:59:00] <TGM> rob0: again with the manuals?
[21:59:11] <TGM> I just need a quick solution
[22:00:10] <rob0> ?
[22:00:14] <rob0> I want a pony.
[22:00:25] <TGM> Good luck with that. :))
[22:00:47] <rob0> I don't help rude idiots who think RTFM is too much work.
[22:01:25] <TGM> RTFM it's too mutch work.
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[22:05:48] <jeev> rob0, i got a pony, it died when jack bauer fucked it up
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[22:06:36] <rob0> http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg
[22:07:21] <QuickGold> rob0: i have a virtual domain setup and my virtual_mailbox_domains is set correctly (using mysql)....any oither ideas as to why I'm recieving the " mail for mail.pokershark.com loops back to myself" error?
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[22:08:55] <rob0> Q, apparently mail.pokershark.com is you, but it's not listed in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains.
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[22:17:17] <rhalff> hi any tips on how to keep postfix configuration files synchronized across mailservers on many different locations ?
[22:18:12] <rhalff> can a main.cf include a script or something like that ?
[22:18:34] <rhalff> which generates the parameters
[22:19:11] <roe_> you can store most of the params in a db
[22:19:51] <QuickGold> Isn't there somewhere on a linux box to set the default MTA to postfix, as opposed to sendmail?
[22:20:12] <roe_> you have sendmail and postfix installed?
[22:20:26] <roe_> or are you confusing the sendmail cli command
[22:20:28] <QuickGold> postfix installed, sendmail disabled
[22:20:44] <QuickGold> roe_: in /var/log/maillog, im seeing entries for sendmail
[22:20:51] <QuickGold> so im thinking some apps are trying to use sendmail still
[22:21:41] <roe_> some apps call /usr/bin/sendmail or wherever that command is on your system.The Postfix sendmail(1) command implements the Postfix to Sendmail com?
[22:21:41] <roe_>        patibility interface.
[22:22:12] <QuickGold> so basically there is no "switch" to toggle?
[22:22:17] <roe_> correct
[22:22:21] <QuickGold> thank you
[22:23:12] <rhalff> parameter values can come from a db I think, not the parameter itself like 'smtpd_send_restrictions'
[22:23:44] <roe_> not that I know of, but nor are the list of parameters dynamic
[22:25:32] <rhalff> but things like smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, many other rbl's, ....
[22:25:51] <rhalff> could I translate those settings to be read from a database table ?
[22:25:53] <roe_> yea... you aren't adding "smtpd_sender_restrictions, only the values
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[22:30:23] <QuickGold> after setting up postfix, do i need to create a MX record in my DNS?
[22:30:30] <QuickGold> for mail to route, that is
[22:30:43] <roe_> how else will people know where to deliver mail to?
[22:30:49] <QuickGold> magic?
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[22:34:52] <roe_> yup, you got it, you need to be a level 4 conjurer in order to send email
[22:35:03] <QuickGold> haha
[22:35:28] <seekwill> If there is no MX record, it will fallback to the A record
[22:37:33] * rhalff didn't know that
[22:39:24] <QuickGold> im having loop back issues and im trying to figure out a solution
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[22:40:03] <seekwill> rhalff: Section 5. Address Resolution and Mail Handling rfc2821
[22:40:08] <jeward> Hi, I'm having trouble getting postfix to authenticate from MySQL.
[22:40:21] <jeward> I've got dovecot working, but not postfix.
[22:41:06] <roe_> jeward, you mean sasl?
[22:41:21] <roe_> user auth? or auth to pull conf settings?
[22:42:01] <jeward> User auth.
[22:42:11] <jeward> Everything else seems to be good.
[22:42:25] <jeward> But when I try to send something out, authentication fails.
[22:42:41] <jeward> Yes, sasl.
[22:43:10] <roe_> cyrus sasl or dovecot sasl?
[22:43:21] <jeward> Dovecot.
[22:43:38] <jeward> Dovecot is working.  I can see the imap mailbox.
[22:43:51] <jeward> But I can't send out via postfix.
[22:43:59] <Dominian> what's the error?
[22:44:02] <roe_> ok, now you have a fully formed queestion, I use cyrus, don't know too much about dovecot, pastbinning some logs will probably help
[22:44:20] <jeward> The SMTP server ?smtp.vazio.com? rejected the password for user ?jeward at vazio dot com?
[22:44:39] <Dominian> you configured dovecot to work with postfix?
[22:44:44] <jeward>  SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure
[22:44:53] <jeward> Yes, I think so.
[22:45:33] <jeward> I followed this: http://rimuhosting.com/knowledgebase/linux/mail/postfixadmin
[22:46:48] <rhalff> hm, I'm comparing config values, is a typo of 1000 instead of 1000s bad, or are both understood as seconds.
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[22:48:17] <jeward> Dominian: Is there any way to get postfix to log what it's trying to use as a username?
[22:48:45] <jeward> I have a feeling it's missing the domain part or adding an extra... let me try something.
[22:49:31] <QuickGold> I checked /var/log/maillog and see this now: Nov 25 21:48:16 alpha postfix/proxymap[28558]: warning: mysql query failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 1
[22:49:32] <Dominian> I configure dovecot to log to /var/log/imapd and /var/log/imapd.info
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[23:37:39] <kingsley> Does anyone here happen to know whether most email systems are configured to still deliver emails that were delayed for one reason or another by three weeks?
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[23:44:56] <timotiCK> how do you turn the /var/log/mail/info.log on......something happen,,,,nothing is being logged to it.
[23:45:02] <timotiCK> can anyone help
[23:45:30] <timotiCK> ??
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[23:52:01] <harlan> timotiCK: look at your syslog.conf file, and test it with the 'logger' command.
[23:52:20] <harlan> kingsley: an email system will attempt to deliver email whenever it arrives.
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