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[00:38:13] <diana> hello
[00:38:21] <diana> i have a small problem with postfix
[00:38:43] <diana> i'm using it with sasl and it doesn't read smtpd.conf file even if it in the right directory
[00:41:09] <growltiger> i never heard of a smtpd.conf file
[00:47:12] <diana> growltiger: it's suppose to be in /etc/sasl2
[00:48:22] <lunaphyte> diana: not always.
[00:48:49] <diana> lunaphyte: i've checked into libsasl
[00:48:58] <diana> the problem is that postfix doesn't bother to use it
[00:56:50] <lunaphyte> diana: i'd encourage you to use dovecot's sasl implementation, rather than cyrus'.
[00:57:19] <diana> lunaphyte: i use cyrus as a imap server and i will continue to do so
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[01:00:10] <lunaphyte> um...
[01:01:30] <jduggan> lolz
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[01:06:21] <lunaphyte> diana: regardless you may want to investigate smtpd_sasl_path
[01:06:54] <diana> smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd
[01:07:19] <diana> so i've read that it should force to read /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf
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[03:09:30] <harlan> How do I learn where t configure having email for several domains deliver as if they were sent to 1 domain?
[03:10:12] <harlan> ie, I have a machine that uses several domains but they are really all the same set of users.
[03:17:15] <roe_> !mydestination
[03:17:16] <knoba> roe_: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[03:18:11] <harlan> OK, thanks - I"ll looa t that in conjunction with the virtual stuff, as I think I might want to use the virtual host capability to handle some things.
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[03:38:02] <aarcane> hi, I'm getting a plethora of various errors when trying to send mail from my machine using postfix via comcast.net as a relay to myself at gmail.com.  does anyone have a working setup with comcast.net and can help me configure mine ?
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[03:43:41] <roe_> no but if you paste logs we can help
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[03:57:56] <randra> any here use maia on server? or knows better "control panel" to postfix and amavisd and others?
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[07:46:53] <harlan> How can I tell postfix I want it to deliver mail to the mail_spool_directory using Maildir format, not mbox?
[07:50:02] <growltiger> !home_mailbox
[07:50:03] <knoba> growltiger: "home_mailbox" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.
[07:50:14] <harlan> I don;'t want to deliver to a home mailbox.
[07:50:38] <harlan> I want to deliver to the system mail spool area.
[07:50:59] <harlan> I may need to "forward" email to a local virtual host, and I'd rather not do that.
[07:51:43] <growltiger> !mail_spool_directory
[07:51:44] <knoba> growltiger: "mail_spool_directory" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The directory where local(8) UNIX-style mailboxes are kept. The default setting depends on the system type. Specify a name ending in / for maildir-style delivery.
[07:51:58] <harlan> Thanks - that last bit wasn't in my docs.
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[08:15:35] <deface> get better docs
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[08:31:58] <growltiger> jesper!
[08:31:59] <growltiger> wb
[08:32:52] <Zelest> :o
[08:33:10] <Zelest> I want to say, smallfury.. but you never remembered my name correctly, so who are you?
[08:33:32] <growltiger> smallfurrythinginacavegrooving on dalnet
[08:33:40] <Zelest> and you didn't call me jasper?! :O
[08:33:45] <Zelest> oh mi lord :)
[08:33:52] <growltiger> that's the way we spell it here
[08:33:52] <Zelest> how's life and all that?
[08:34:05] <Zelest> here it's two different names ;)
[08:34:56] <growltiger> you still have the kitties, minux and bhami or whatever?
[08:36:15] <Zelest> minix and bhamini, yeah :)
[08:36:56] <deface> hey, you 2, get a room
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[10:13:51] <wonderwal> hello, does anyone use greylisting?
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[10:17:47] <avythe> i'm getting  relay=virtual, delay=0.01, delays=0/0/0/0, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user:
[10:17:54] <avythe> when sending mail to admin@mydomain
[10:18:03] <avythe> it's the local domain, not virtual
[10:18:07] <avythe> any ideas of what to look at?
[10:18:11] <avythe> i've been googling for hours.
[10:24:59] <avythe> heh
[10:25:02] <avythe> nevermind i think i just fixed it
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[12:23:56] <juice`> is there any way to set different queue time for specific error ?
[12:24:17] <juice`> i need to change it for this type of error '(Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=[...] type=MX: Host not found, try again)'
[12:24:57] <juice`> i get a lot of these errors, because i block some countries completly from being able to send mail , and it fails at the dns lookup stage
[12:25:08] <juice`> and my queue is full because of this...
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[12:36:44] <growltiger> you need to fix your dns
[12:36:52] <growltiger> get some good resolvers
[12:38:48] <juice`> i'm blocking some countries, that's why it shows up
[12:38:56] <juice`> on firewall level, and i'm doing it on purpose
[12:39:27] <growltiger> blocking countries should have nothing to do with you looking up names
[12:39:53] <juice`> i'm suing localhost as dns server
[12:39:56] <juice`> using
[12:40:24] <juice`> besides, even if i unblock specific countries, these messeges will end up with just anmother error messege
[12:40:31] <juice`> like cannot connect to mail server
[12:40:47] <juice`> i mean if i unblock specific countries for dns
[12:41:12] <growltiger> i block whole countries as well, but i dont have this happen
[12:41:18] <juice`> my question, maybe more generic is, how to remove some type of error from queue. of course i can run crontab script, but this seems unprofessional
[12:42:10] <juice`> but i use dns servers on the same server as postfix, so bind cannot connect to specific country dns servers, and it fails at this stage. i could change that, but it would just change error messege
[12:42:23] <juice`> the point is, i don't want these messeges in queue, at all
[12:43:24] <juice`> maybe there is a way to block countries on postfix level ?
[12:43:30] <juice`> i block it with iptables
[12:43:56] <juice`> this way, a try to send a mail to for example china, will just end up with error messege and will not end up in queue
[12:44:24] <growltiger> !smtp_sender_restrictions
[12:44:26] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "smtp_sender_restrictions" is not a valid command.
[12:45:04] <growltiger> !smtpd_client_restrictions
[12:45:05] <knoba> growltiger: "smtpd_client_restrictions" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional SMTP server access restrictions in the context of a client SMTP connection request.
[12:45:35] <growltiger> !smtpd_sender_restrictions
[12:45:36] <knoba> growltiger: "smtpd_sender_restrictions" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional restrictions that the Postfix SMTP server applies in the context of the SMTP MAIL FROM command. See access(5) for an overview of access restriction features.
[12:45:48] <juice`> i didn't know it's possible to set specific countries to be blocked on this level
[12:45:57] <growltiger> !check_sender_access
[12:45:58] <knoba> growltiger: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[12:46:12] <growltiger> send them to /dev/null
[12:46:44] <juice`> but how to catch them? filtering hostname for foe example '.cn' ?
[12:46:59] <growltiger> man 5 access
[12:46:59] <juice`> ok i will read this again
[12:47:05] <juice`> yes, you are right, thank you
[12:59:17] <juice`> no, it's not possible to see specific countries from postfix perspective
[12:59:31] <juice`> for example domain something.com can be in china
[12:59:39] <juice`> how can postfix see that? i cannot filter it
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[13:00:03] <juice`> i could give it list of IP addressess but it would be huge
[13:01:19] <juice`> unless i'm missing something
[13:04:17] <growltiger> !basic
[13:04:18] <knoba> growltiger: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[13:04:25] <growltiger> !spam
[13:04:26] <knoba> growltiger: "spam" : for you and SPAM for me, we'll all live together in SPAM harmony at SPAM.com
[13:04:31] <growltiger> !uce
[13:04:32] <knoba> growltiger: "uce" : "unsolicited commercial email" also known as "spam". Postfix can help you fight spam easily. See http://www.securitysage.com/guides/postfix_uce.html for an introduction.
[13:05:16] <juice`> i'm running free hosting, it's hard to block it if i cannot trust my own users
[13:05:26] <juice`> it's much harder to configure, than normal spam fighting
[13:06:04] <juice`> i want to block specific countries from destination, i cannot block source, because source is my own php mail() function
[13:06:41] <juice`> but i will read it anyways
[13:09:34] <juice`> spam.com is just some ad for some food, and securitysage.com site doesn't work.
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[13:13:05] <growltiger> !antispam
[13:13:06] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "antispam" is not a valid command.
[13:13:15] <growltiger> !anti-spam
[13:13:16] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "anti-spam" is not a valid command.
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[13:16:13] <growltiger> !cheatsheet
[13:16:13] <knoba> growltiger: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
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[13:32:44] <wonderwal> hmm anyone using postgrey?
[13:35:14] <cite> Yes. A lot of people do ;-)
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[13:38:00] <whiteflag> one quick question: how long a mail will be kept in defered queue?
[13:39:52] <wonderwal> cite: hmm i just telnetted in to my server, sent many mails using copy/paste, didnt work
[13:42:28] <wonderwal> i have
[13:42:29] <wonderwal> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =  permit_sasl_authenticated,  permit_mynetworks, check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service inet:172.0.0.1:10023
[13:42:34] <cite> whiteflag: postconf maximal_queue_lifetime
[13:43:28] <whiteflag> cite: and when postfix retry these mails ? is there any settings for that ? thanks
[13:43:30] <growltiger> !maximal_backoff_time
[13:43:31] <cite> wonderwal: 172, not 127? Anyways, if it "didn't work" then any of the other restrictions before has already accepted the mail.
[13:43:31] <knoba> growltiger: "maximal_backoff_time" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal time between attempts to deliver a deferred message.
[13:43:38] <growltiger> !miniimal_backoff_time
[13:43:39] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "miniimal_backoff_time" is not a valid command.
[13:43:44] <growltiger> !minimal_backoff_time
[13:43:45] <knoba> growltiger: "minimal_backoff_time" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The minimal time between attempts to deliver a deferred message. This parameter also limits the time an unreachable destination is kept in the short-term, in-memory, destination status cache.
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[13:44:35] <growltiger> !qmgr_message_active_limit
[13:44:36] <knoba> growltiger: "qmgr_message_active_limit" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal number of messages in the active queue.
[13:44:44] <growltiger> play around with those
[13:44:47] <phyburn> I'm trying to send one of my servers mail and I get the following error: Relay access denied (state 14). any ideas?
[13:45:13] <cite> growltiger: No, don't do that. The defaults are there for a _reason_.
[13:45:29] <growltiger> !relay denied
[13:45:30] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "relay" is not a valid command.
[13:45:35] <growltiger> !relaydenied
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[13:45:36] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "relaydenied" is not a valid command.
[13:45:43] <growltiger> !denied
[13:45:44] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "denied" is not a valid command.
[13:45:48] <growltiger> bastard
[13:45:48] <phyburn> !fail
[13:45:49] <knoba> phyburn: Error: "fail" is not a valid command.
[13:45:54] <phyburn> ^_^
[13:47:34] <growltiger> !queue_run_delay
[13:47:35] <knoba> growltiger: "queue_run_delay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The time between deferred queue scans by the queue manager.
[13:48:01] <growltiger> !accessdenied
[13:48:02] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "accessdenied" is not a valid command.
[13:48:45] <cite> !tell phyburn relay_denied
[13:49:01] <growltiger> !relay_denied
[13:49:02] <knoba> growltiger: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[13:54:46] <wonderwal> cite: thanks im looking into it, thats the case
[14:05:34] <whiteflag> hey... is there any option to relay only NDR/bounces through a separate server ?
[14:06:27] <phyburn> how do I get my mail put in Maildir format not mbox format?
[14:09:16] <growltiger> !home_mailbox
[14:09:17] <knoba> growltiger: "home_mailbox" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.
[14:09:46] <growltiger> home_mailbox = Maildir/
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[14:13:24] <cite> whiteflag: You could probably abuse a check_sender_access table by issuing <> FILTER ...
[14:13:26] <phyburn> thanks
[14:17:32] <phyburn> growltiger, doesn't seem to be putting the mail in there =(
[14:17:34] <phyburn> idk where its going now lol
[14:21:51] <growltiger> i dont have it
[14:22:34] <growltiger> your logs should say where it went
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[14:25:28] <phyburn> found it
[14:25:49] <phyburn> idk why its going to /var/mail/ now =/ lol
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[15:36:25] <REyM> How do I "rewrite" the ipadress to the server's when I send an email trough it?
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[16:27:45] <wonderwal> how do i make postfix listen on a different port?
[16:28:09] <devdas> See master.cf
[16:33:27] <wonderwal> which argument should i pass to smtpd?
[16:34:08] <devdas> first column
[16:34:19] <devdas> See the commented out submission line for example
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[16:35:46] <wonderwal> 18089     inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd -v
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[16:48:32] <wonderwal> what should be used to make virtual.db for the first time?
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[16:50:07] <devdas> postmap
[16:50:25] <REyM> How do I "rewrite" the ipadress to the server's when I send an email trough it?
[16:51:11] <devdas> REyM: uh?
[16:52:05] <REyM> Use postfix to send emails. But the mails get send with the clients ip
[16:52:13] <REyM> Goes wrong with greylists
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[16:53:03] <REyM> Does that make sense?
[16:53:04] <devdas> Um, no
[16:53:07] <devdas> Logs?
[16:55:43] <REyM> Got a message back from the receiving server with a fail log in which the clients IP is stated.
[16:55:55] <REyM> and not the server's
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[16:56:22] <devdas> If it went through the Postfix server, you should see the Postfix server's IP
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[16:56:50] <REyM> Yeah, that was what I tought.
[16:57:17] <REyM> Strange, so you guess the client sends it itself?
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[17:00:44] <devdas> yes
[17:04:34] <REyM> postfix/smtpd receives en postfix/smtp sends (in logfiles)?
[17:06:42] <devdas> yes
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[17:08:00] <REyM> Lol, I am stupid, it IS the server's IP >_<
[17:11:58] <wonderwal> its recommended the alias and virtual file are kept in the same dir as other postfix files, like where main.cf, master.cf are?
[17:12:30] <devdas> wonderwal: if you like
[17:12:39] <wonderwal> whats the done thing?
[17:13:57] <devdas> wonderwal: people tend to put the file in /etc/postfix
[17:14:10] <wonderwal> which is where main.cf is right?
[17:14:14] <wonderwal> well, usually is
[17:15:11] <devdas> yes
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[18:57:18] <lunaphyte> join #backuppc
[18:57:21] <lunaphyte> meh
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[19:32:33] <Emmett> does anyone know how to add an importance header to a mail?
[19:33:12] <devdas> Emmett: it's done by the mail user agent
[19:33:38] <Emmett> what if the mail user agent is just the command-line 'mail' utility?
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[19:34:33] <devdas> Put it in the message body
[19:34:39] <devdas> Wnhy would you care anyway?
[19:35:43] <Emmett> What do you mean?
[19:35:46] <hyper__ch> huhu
[19:37:25] <devdas> That header is ignored by everything
[19:38:11] <Emmett> not by Outlook
[19:38:41] <devdas> Who cares about mail user agents
[19:38:49] <devdas> They don't do anything useful
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[19:40:22] <lunaphyte> oh, don't say that!  the good ones render html beautifully, and assist in executing arbitrary code :)
[19:40:57] <devdas> lunaphyte: those people are already one webmail
[19:40:58] <devdas> on*
[19:42:08] <Emmett> haha
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[19:44:08] <lunaphyte> i can't stand when people try to dictate to me the level of importance of email from them.  i might actually loathe that more than return receipts.  it's like the contemporary version of the "911" page.
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[19:45:39] <Emmett> agreed
[19:47:11] <roe_> but you don't understand, what I have to say really *is* important
[19:47:12] <lunaphyte> back during the brief period where i had a pager, i used to love getting 911 pages.  i'd wait extra long to call someone back when they paged me with that crap.
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[20:15:38] <hyper__ch> where can I define in postfix what are all the "local" domains?
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[20:20:12] <devdas> !mydestination
[20:20:13] <knoba> devdas: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
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[20:26:32] <hyper__ch> devdas: I was looking for the "virtual" file :)
[20:27:24] <devdas> ah
[20:27:27] <devdas> !virtual
[20:27:28] <knoba> devdas: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
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[21:10:43] <roe_> I am trying to postmap a header check file, the file contains /^TO: .*.domain.com/ HOLD
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[21:11:08] <adaptr> ah, mailscanner
[21:11:26] <roe_> mailscanner?
[21:12:36] <roe_> ah, I think I figured it out, stupidity on my part.  I am calling it as a pcre:/ not a hash:/ therefore no reason to postmap it
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[21:49:53] <wonderwal> it's possible to have something like techs at example dot com tech1,tech2
[21:49:55] <wonderwal> in virtual right?
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[21:53:18] <jeev> is it possible i could notify the sender of the destination greylisting? automated..
[21:53:21] <roe_> I am getting 5 to 6 "connect from" "disconnect from" entries in my log from a single IP
[21:53:27] <roe_> per second
[21:53:56] <wonderwal> jeev: what do you mean exactly?
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[22:28:34] <jeev> wonderwal :D sorry
[22:28:44] <wonderwal> lol
[22:28:47] <wonderwal> chill
[22:28:49] <jeev> when other servers greylist me
[22:28:54] <jeev> lets say for exampl
[22:29:00] <jeev> the other day my friend emailed someone
[22:29:02] <jeev> it was greylisted
[22:29:08] <jeev> as soon as the server is greylisted, soft error..
[22:29:15] <jeev> i want it to bounce a message saying that it will try it again
[22:29:25] <jeev> so they dont try to call the guy 100 times and say, "i sent it, i sent it, did you get it?"
[22:29:26] <jeev> you know
[22:29:48] <wonderwal> hmm usually it just sends some error with a message, you want an actual mail to be sent?
[22:34:07] <Bearcat> when someone has the time i'm in a bit of a fix (a postfix. ha!).  All mail aside from that which is sent from local host is rejected with Client host rejected: access denied.  This was fine yesterday, but i updated my system and something changed.
[22:34:34] <Bearcat> i'm using postfix 2.5.5 and a sourcemage system.  My config has been posted to http://pastebin.ca/1265351
[22:34:40] <Bearcat> any help is appreciated.
[22:35:43] <Bearcat> i'm running postfix + dovecot delivery with TLS so it *could* be a dovecot error, but it seems too be happening before it hits dovecot
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[22:36:07] <devdas> Bearcat: you probably need to add the remaining IPs you send from into mynetworks
[22:36:23] <devdas> !mynetworks
[22:36:23] <knoba> devdas: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
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[22:37:08] <wonderwal> you can to both smtp and smtp ssl all one port 25 right?
[22:37:53] <wonderwal> *on
[22:38:01] <Bearcat> devdas: well it's not that i'm sending from these domains it's *incoming* mail. I.e if i try to recieve somethiing from gmail it fails.
[22:38:53] <Bearcat> devdas, knoba: i just updated http://pastebin.ca/1265358  with the log lines for an email attempt.
[22:39:47] <Bearcat> Out: 554 5.7.1 <fg-out-1718.google.com[72.14.220.153]>: Client host rejected:
[22:39:48] <Bearcat>      Access denied
[22:39:48] <Bearcat>  In:  QUIT
[22:40:02] <devdas> wonderwal: yes
[22:40:11] <wonderwal> cool
[22:40:29] <devdas> Bearcat: then you need to add the domain to mydestination, virtual_mailbox_domains, virtual_alias_domains, or relay_domains
[22:40:29] <Bearcat> postfix sends that error email to my system admin account
[22:40:47] <devdas> If the user is in /etc/passwd, it's mydestination
[22:40:54] <devdas> !mydestination
[22:40:55] <knoba> devdas: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[22:41:01] <devdas> knoba's the channel bot
[22:41:33] <Bearcat> devdas: ahh. I apolgise for seeming argumentative. I'm trying to understand and figure this out.
[22:41:51] <Bearcat> devdas: it's almost as if suddenly everything except for local host was blacklisted
[22:42:24] <Bearcat> my postfix configuration has not changed since yesterday, but pam, and dovecot did get recompiled due to a pam upgrade
[22:42:45] <devdas> np
[22:42:52] <devdas> Hmmmm
[22:43:18] <Bearcat> bind did not get updated.
[22:43:20] <devdas> !basic
[22:43:20] <knoba> devdas: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[22:43:27] <devdas> !debug
[22:43:28] <knoba> devdas: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[22:43:35] <devdas> It's also 3 am here
[22:43:43] <Bearcat> ha, there is that.
[22:44:18] <tobias-> KLF - 3 am eternal
[22:44:52] <devdas> smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject
[22:44:55] <devdas> BAH
[22:45:09] <devdas> I should have seen that
[22:45:16] <devdas> comment that line out
[22:45:50] <devdas> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination
[22:45:54] <devdas> that should be enough
[22:47:22] <tobias-> But the problem is for incoming mail?
[22:47:26] * devdas pokes Bearcat
[22:47:28] <Bearcat> yes
[22:47:36] <Bearcat> eep!
[22:47:43] <tobias-> google is trying to send mail to bearcat at feline-soul dot com
[22:47:44] <Bearcat> thank you devdas i'm testing it now.
[22:47:45] <devdas> the reject in cmtpd_client_restrictions is the problem
[22:47:52] <devdas> smtpd
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[22:50:07] <tobias-> !smtpd_client_restrictions
[22:50:08] <knoba> tobias-: "smtpd_client_restrictions" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional SMTP server access restrictions in the context of a client SMTP connection request.
[22:50:14] <Bearcat> ahh, i don't actually have that in my config. That must be a default
[22:50:39] <tobias-> Bearcat: seems like local delivery only for that config
[22:51:54] <Bearcat> ahh so what should smtpd_client_restrictions be set to?
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[22:52:21] <Bearcat> i want to stop relays, but other then that my spam filter will take care of the rest.
[22:52:38] <Bearcat> oh the "reject'
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[22:55:17] * Bearcat takes the 'reject" out and restarts postfix
[22:55:28] <devdas> the default is good
[22:55:49] <jeev> wonderwal
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[22:59:09] <tobias-> Bearcat: It should work just uncommenting that line , smtpd_receipient_restriction should do so that you can't relay if you're not authed or in mynetworks
[22:59:43] <jeev> 421 Service not available, closing transmission channel Grey listed. (in reply to end of DATA command)
[22:59:46] <jeev> and then requeued
[22:59:47] <tobias-> Bearcat: oh you should add permit_mynetworks in smtpd_recipient_restriction (anyone, correct me if i'm wrong)
[22:59:50] <jeev> i want that to notify the SENDER
[23:00:26] <tobias-> jeev: If you notify the sender that it is greylisted then they think the mail isn't on it's way to the receiver?
[23:01:07] <jeev> tobias-, right now, the sender wants to know if it's greylisted
[23:01:09] <jeev> so i want to make that happen
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[23:03:29] <Bearcat> tobias-: thank you, i *think* it's mostly working now. if devdas comes back in please thank them for me.
[23:03:38] <Bearcat> hmm
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[23:09:07] <Bearcat> yup, i think it's working now. Thanks all!
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[23:11:12] * Bearcat sends a thank you to devdas via memoserv
[23:12:03] <roe_> !delay_warn
[23:12:04] <knoba> roe_: Error: "delay_warn" is not a valid command.
[23:12:10] <roe_> !delaywarn
[23:12:11] <knoba> roe_: Error: "delaywarn" is not a valid command.
[23:12:34] <roe_> !delay_warning_time
[23:12:35] <knoba> roe_: "delay_warning_time" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The time after which the sender receives the message headers of mail that is still queued.
[23:12:56] <roe_> jeev ^
[23:13:37] <roe_> if you want to *only* report greylisted email, you may have to get more fancy, ie. header checks
[23:16:08] <Bearcat> tobias-: since you were so helpful with postfix you wanna help me compile kdenetwork4? (just kidding)
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[23:18:51] <wonderwal> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
[23:18:52] <wonderwal>    permit_sasl_authenticated,
[23:18:52] <wonderwal>    permit_mynetworks,
[23:18:52] <wonderwal>    reject_unauth_destination,
[23:18:52] <wonderwal>    check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10023
[23:19:13] <wonderwal> with that in place, if i auth over sasl, then it shouldnt do any greylist checking for the recipient?
[23:19:29] <roe_> correct
[23:20:46] <tobias-> Bearcat: hehe no thanks ;)
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[23:44:34] <wonderwal> anyone ever had issues with thunderbird+tls+postfix?
[23:45:35] <wonderwal> its bitching that STaRTTLS isnt listed in EHLO
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[23:45:37] <wonderwal> yet it is
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