[00:00:55] <wonderwal> excellent, sorry i missed that :-/ [00:01:45] <brd> :) [00:04:11] <cafuego> Hmm, whoever said he used fail2ban for postfix, thanks. That does wonders for sysload ;-) [00:04:58] *** carl- has quit IRC [00:06:02] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:07:10] <wonderwal> got dovecot,postfix working, now just need to figure out how to do virtual domains :) [00:09:02] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:10:44] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:10:59] *** Radiance has joined #postfix [00:11:37] *** Internat has quit IRC [00:13:37] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:16:58] *** hever has joined #postfix [00:21:02] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:21:20] *** gcleric has quit IRC [00:26:01] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:26:43] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:31:27] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:32:39] *** Muffin has joined #postfix [00:33:10] <Muffin> My favorite part of freenode is how, if I'm having trouble with a program, I can type "/join #program" and there are 600,000 people in the room. [00:33:27] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:33:37] <Muffin> Anyway, I think I'm an open relay, but have no idea of how to close the opening. [00:33:44] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:35:03] <Muffin> I have many lines in my mail.log such as this one: "Nov 21 15:35:23 blue postfix/pipe[32193]: D4FBADD115: to=<iown72 at yahoo dot com.tw>, relay=spamassassin, delay=18, delays=18/0/0/0.22, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (system resource problem)" ...which appears to indicate that the server is trying to send mail to iown72 at yahoo dot com.tw. It should not be, as none of my users are attempting to do so. [00:35:32] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:35:45] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:36:18] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:37:00] *** ki_ has joined #postfix [00:39:15] <Muffin> But then I also see lines like this: "Nov 21 15:35:07 blue postfix/smtpd[25188]: D4FBADD115: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] [00:39:26] <Muffin> ...which appears to indicate that the spam is coming from inside my server. Any ideas? [00:41:20] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:41:59] *** BuenGenio has joined #postfix [00:42:23] *** BuenGenio has quit IRC [00:43:46] <cafuego> Muffin: it's probably trying to bounce that message back to iown72 at yahoo dot com.tw [00:44:12] <cafuego> Muffin: And the client=localhost[127.0.0.1] is quite possibly spamassassin [00:46:41] <Muffin> cafuego: Yes, it is spamassassin. Checking uid's confirms this. [00:47:20] <Muffin> So you're suggesting that I'm not an open relay, rather, that this message indicates that I am not relaying mail but when I try to bounce failure-to-relay messages back to the "from:" field, the problem arises? [00:47:47] <cafuego> Muffin: That would be my initial guess [00:48:12] <cafuego> Muffin: if you want me to check if you're an open relay, PM me the IP or hostname. [00:49:09] <cafuego> Muffin: It usually would take a bit of work to make a postfix installed (if packaged via a distro) be an open relay :-) [00:49:39] <Muffin> Yeah, that's my understanding. [00:50:11] <Muffin> I may, then, have an entirely different problem: Logging and deferring and bouncing all of these messages is bloating the hell out of mail.log, syslog, and the /var/spool/postfix/defer folders, on the order of gigabytes per day. [00:50:35] <Muffin> So, I would love advice on configuring postfix to try such a bounce once, then drop it. [00:50:56] <cafuego> Hmm, I'm getting a sender address rejected as opposed to relay rejected [00:51:29] <cafuego> Muffin: Gigabytes!? How many bounce messages do you have in queue? [00:51:51] <Muffin> 2601 in the last 10 minutes. [00:51:54] <cafuego> eep [00:52:05] <Muffin> As in, I cleared out /defer and /deferred 10 minutes ago, and now 2601 are in there. [00:52:13] <cafuego> Do you do any RBL etc filtering? [00:52:17] <Muffin> Yes. [00:52:45] <Muffin> You're getting sender rejected because basically, the server shouldn't accept any mail from anyone but those listed in mydomains or virtual domains, and only from localhost. [00:54:08] <Muffin> (now up to 3615) [00:55:00] * cafuego ponders [00:55:24] <cafuego> is there *any* chance there's a webmail form on that box getting abused? [00:55:33] <Muffin> To be fair, I've been trolling google and trying random stuff looking for a solution for a couple weeks now. I've been running postfix on a few servers for years. [00:55:43] <Muffin> cafuego: When I `apache2ctl stop` the problem does not appear ot change. [00:56:00] <cafuego> Or are these messaages all coming in via normal SMTP - in which case you perhaps need some extra filtering [00:56:17] <Muffin> How can I tell the difference? [00:56:36] <cafuego> The mail log should tell you [00:56:52] <cafuego> it will show the hostname/IP that connects for each message [00:57:44] <Muffin> Nov 21 15:59:09 blue postfix/smtpd[32695]: C7C76DD940: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] [00:58:28] <Muffin> ...if that's what shoul dbe telling me, then I'm still not sure whether that's, say, using sendmail or smtp. [00:58:28] <cafuego> There's only localhost in there? [00:59:50] <cafuego> SOmething like "Nov 22 00:01:06 mail postfix/smtpd[8181]: connect from nt.phred.org[75.151.110.35]" [00:59:58] <Muffin> `grep client= /var/log/mail.log | grep -v localhost` reveals a few that are not localhost, but looking deeper they are ones that actually target users of my system. [01:00:54] <Muffin> Grepping for "connect from" turns up other options, but most are localhost. [01:01:11] <wonderwal> is it possible to map one adresses to many aliases? i want admin at example dot com to forward to 3 addresses [01:01:32] <cafuego> wonderwal: Yup, just add them in aliases,s eparated by commas. [01:01:43] <Muffin> wonderwal: in your alias, separate them by comma-- [01:01:49] <wonderwal> thanks guys :) [01:01:49] <Muffin> cafuego is quicker. [01:01:51] <cafuego> wonderwal: "admin: user1,user2,user3" [01:03:37] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC [01:08:35] <cafuego> Muffin: Hmmm... are these messages all to/from a specific domain - or a random hodgepodge? [01:08:59] <Muffin> A nonrandom hodgepodge. [01:09:06] <Muffin> yahoo.com.tw is very common, as is hinet.net [01:10:45] <cafuego> hrm [01:11:57] <wonderwal> lovely [01:12:03] <wonderwal> thanks for postfix [01:12:19] <wonderwal> at least it has structure.. unlike my experience with qmail *cough* *cough* [01:13:34] <cafuego> Muffin: I don' know what could be going on - but I can at least give you the queue cleaning script I use. [01:13:44] <Muffin> Heh. [01:13:57] <cafuego> backscatter processing :-) [01:14:10] <cafuego> http://pastebin.com/d273488a5 [01:14:17] <Muffin> i've been using rm `grep -l -R -v "user1\|user2" .` [01:14:27] *** hever has quit IRC [01:14:39] <cafuego> This uses postsuper, uses the postfix API [01:15:03] <cafuego> eats an email address OR a domain name [01:15:11] <Muffin> Hm. [01:15:28] <Muffin> Really, what I want is it to eat things that are not related to localuser@* [01:15:53] <cafuego> Muffin: Well, it really shouldn't accept those to begin with. [01:15:54] <Muffin> But I'll give it a shot. :) [01:16:07] <Muffin> Yeah, but it might not be. As you mentioned, it might be choking on the bounces. [01:16:33] *** dragonheart has quit IRC [01:16:39] <cafuego> it'll lcear out some crufty crap anyway - which will help regardless :-) [01:16:46] <Muffin> Heh, true. [01:16:53] <Muffin> I should just do this hourly in cron. [01:17:04] <Muffin> Is there some item in postfix that can say, "only try to bounce a message once?" [01:18:03] <cafuego> Undoubtedly, but i don't know what that item would be <heh> [01:19:40] * cafuego needs a spot of breakfast - bbiab [01:23:17] *** mypenquinisl33t has joined #postfix [01:24:54] *** mypenquinisl33t has quit IRC [01:27:07] *** war9407 has quit IRC [01:30:22] *** githogori has quit IRC [01:34:31] *** eanxgeek|laptop has quit IRC [01:37:42] *** roe_ has quit IRC [01:39:30] *** internat1 has quit IRC [01:40:00] *** deadpigeon has quit IRC [02:04:49] *** deuterium has quit IRC [02:05:19] *** jense has quit IRC [02:10:33] *** mwalling has joined #postfix [02:10:35] <mwalling> !basic [02:10:36] <knoba> mwalling: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here. [02:10:39] *** mwalling has left #postfix [02:37:41] *** Nord has joined #postfix [02:37:51] <Nord> Is there anyway to use wildcards in /etc/aliases? [02:38:04] <Nord> Like every address with nord in it should go to nord? [02:39:00] <sysmonk> Nord: in the 'standard' /etc/aliases - no [02:39:16] <Nord> Alright. Does it exist a extension? [02:39:17] <sysmonk> but you can always add an additional regexp/pcre map which would support that [02:39:29] <Nord> a map? [02:39:44] <sysmonk> i.e. alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, pcre:/etc/aliases.pcre [02:39:52] <Nord> ah cool [02:39:57] <sysmonk> Nord: postfix is all about maps and tables mostly :) [02:40:04] <Nord> :D [02:40:11] <Nord> Im googling it [02:40:15] <Nord> thx so long [02:40:18] <sysmonk> !pcre_table [02:40:19] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "pcre_table" is not a valid command. [02:40:26] <sysmonk> !regexp_table [02:40:27] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "regexp_table" is not a valid command. [02:40:33] <sysmonk> no factoids for those in knoba :( [02:40:40] <sysmonk> and i'm kinda lazy right now [02:40:49] <sysmonk> 03:42 am here [02:41:07] <Nord> postmap -q "string" regexp:/etc/postfix/filename [02:41:08] <Nord> Hmm [02:41:33] <sysmonk> yeah, postmap -q will help ya check the stuff [02:41:35] <Nord> Is postmap a reloader or what? [02:41:35] <sysmonk> !postmapq [02:41:36] <knoba> sysmonk: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works. [02:41:38] <Nord> okay [02:41:46] <Nord> But how do i load them? [02:41:47] <sysmonk> Nord: postmap -q 'checks' the stuff [02:41:52] <sysmonk> postmap itself can regenerate the database [02:41:53] <Nord> Like newaliases [02:42:02] <sysmonk> pcre/regexp maps/tables don't need regeneration [02:42:05] <sysmonk> hash'es do need it [02:42:07] <sysmonk> !postmap [02:42:08] <knoba> sysmonk: "postmap" : a command to 'compile' text files to hash databases. Example: a file transport will be converted to transport.db by running 'postmap transport'. Your main.cf will contain something like transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport (without the '.db') [02:42:10] <Nord> The postmap(1) command creates or queries one or more Postfix lookup tables, or updates an existing one. [02:42:13] <sysmonk> Nord: read the man page :) [02:42:18] <sysmonk> right [02:42:22] <Nord> I'm doing rightnow =) [02:42:37] <sysmonk> Nord: as i said before, pcre/regexp don't need database generation [02:42:47] <sysmonk> so you don't have to 'newalias' or 'postmap' them [02:42:58] <Nord> I dont know why this "never give examples in man pages" consensus exists [02:43:04] <Nord> ah [02:43:04] <Nord> ok [02:43:05] <Nord> cool [02:43:07] <sysmonk> but you do need to put them in your config near the default alias_maps [02:43:17] *** wonderwal has quit IRC [02:44:08] *** chrisq has quit IRC [02:44:11] <sysmonk> Nord: use teh right OS :P freebsd man pages (the ones which come with freebsd world) almost always have examples [02:44:20] <sysmonk> which is really great :) [02:44:24] <Nord> yeah [02:44:48] <Nord> Must be the GNU people who invented this example-less manpages [02:45:10] <sysmonk> maybe [02:45:17] * sysmonk can't comment on this one [02:46:21] <Nord> :D [02:47:40] <Nord> TABLE FORMAT [02:47:40] <Nord> The general form of a PCRE table is: [02:47:40] <Nord> /pattern/flags result [02:47:40] <Nord> When pattern matches the input string, use the cor- [02:47:40] <Nord> responding result value. [02:47:45] <Nord> lol [02:47:57] <sysmonk> don't paste to the channel [02:48:02] <Nord> Its totally impossible to understand how to write the aliases.pre file from that instruction [02:48:06] <sysmonk> use a pastebin for that [02:48:10] <Nord> 5 lines? :( [02:48:14] <Nord> Well sorry [02:48:17] <sysmonk> !pcre [02:48:18] <knoba> sysmonk: "pcre" : Perl-compatible regular expressions (pcre:) support in Postfix: http://www.postfix.org/PCRE_README.html [02:48:21] <sysmonk> Nord: ^^ [02:48:33] <Nord> i know perl regexes inside and out [02:48:51] <sysmonk> good, then you shouldn't have problems with it :P [02:49:23] <sysmonk> it's up to user to learn pcre, postfix just adds the compatibility for it [02:49:37] <sysmonk> and gives syntax how to use it [02:50:22] <Nord> http://www.postfix.com/pcre_table.5.html [02:50:31] <Nord> http://www.postfix.com/postmap.1.html [02:50:39] <Nord> I have read them [02:51:15] <Nord> I still dont understand how i route all *nord*@whatever to user nord [02:52:02] <Nord> Guess i need to read an O Reilly about postfix to get it [02:52:13] <growltiger> it does this by default [02:52:25] <Nord> no [02:52:34] <Nord> i have a user called rut at my system [02:52:48] <growltiger> if you have a system user of nord, it will deliver mail to nord@ all the domains in $mydestination [02:52:49] <Nord> mail sent to rut99@ is returned [02:53:01] <Nord> yes, but not nord99 etc [02:53:04] <Nord> or mrnord [02:53:19] <growltiger> you must want a lot of spam [02:54:21] <Nord> # Bounce friend@whatever, except when whatever is our domain [02:54:26] <Nord> /^(friend at (?!my\ dot domain$).*)$/ 550 Stick this in your pipe $1 [02:54:41] <Nord> So 550 is a code for bounce or what? [02:54:46] <growltiger> yes [02:54:59] <Nord> Stick this in your pipe $1 is? [02:55:03] <Nord> $1 is the backref [02:55:04] <Nord> i know that [02:55:53] *** ikaro^ has joined #postfix [02:56:21] <Nord> so /^.*nord@.*$/ 666 Plz send this shit to nord at telerymd dot org [02:56:22] <Nord> will work? [02:56:33] <growltiger> !tias [02:56:34] <knoba> growltiger: "tias" : Try It And See [02:56:58] <Nord> Its ofcourse not possible [03:03:15] <Nord> Nope, the documentation isnt explaining how to forward mail in the result field. [03:08:44] <Nord> @domain.name spamgoeshere@localhost [03:08:48] *** ikaro^ has quit IRC [03:08:52] <Nord> Ill give up and use that [03:08:52] *** ikaro has quit IRC [03:08:54] *** Nord has left #postfix [03:13:12] *** xpoint has quit IRC [03:13:23] *** ikaro has joined #postfix [03:23:26] *** keffer has joined #postfix [03:29:33] *** hparker has quit IRC [03:30:24] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC [03:31:37] *** mario has joined #postfix [03:40:51] *** githogori has joined #postfix [03:45:40] *** euphidime has quit IRC [03:47:37] *** mario has left #postfix [03:51:08] *** hparker has joined #postfix [03:54:09] *** keffer has quit IRC [03:57:20] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|afk [04:23:35] *** mavrick61 has joined #postfix [04:27:30] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix [04:32:15] *** CrazyFoam has quit IRC [04:37:58] *** euphidime has joined #postfix [04:50:44] *** zer0mdq has quit IRC [04:51:28] *** Conker has joined #postfix [04:51:59] *** zer0mdq has joined #postfix [04:52:22] *** pulsar has quit IRC [04:54:00] <Conker> Hey, Ive got a issue which unfortunatly renders me unable to connect to my nail server and outbound mail. Although it works if im connected from localhost i believe because me web gui works to send mail. Ive checked the logs and i always get Error 554 NOQUEUE reject from: *** relay access denied. Anyone know whats up? [04:54:26] <cafuego> Your server isn't configured to relay email from the IP you're using. [04:54:51] <cafuego> If that's a local IP, add it to mynetworks [04:54:51] <Conker> So this is a small/easy fix? [04:55:10] <Conker> Its not a local [04:55:38] <cafuego> Then you'll need to set up some sort of authentication I suppose, or you'll end up with a possible open relay [04:56:18] <Conker> i see and by that u mean anyone can just connect and send mail [04:56:27] <Conker> ? [04:57:30] <Conker> or is that perception wrong? [04:59:15] <Conker> ah so in the network i was trusted and could send mail. now not so much [05:00:26] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC [05:01:26] <Conker> so just to confirm with you guys i should be able to just add smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes and smtp_sasl_password_maps with the .db and it "should" [05:01:33] <Conker> *work [05:03:59] <Conker> ? [05:29:34] *** alliebean has joined #postfix [05:30:48] <alliebean> hi all ;) I have a question ... I have aliases set up using virtual_alias_maps ... but if somebody using my SMTP server attempts to e-mail one of those aliases on said server, it says the user is unknown ... but it works from outside the server [05:30:53] <alliebean> any idea how I might fix that? [05:36:15] *** goldfischli has joined #postfix [05:37:45] *** goldfisc1li has quit IRC [05:40:43] *** ikaro has quit IRC [05:44:41] *** ikaro has joined #postfix [05:46:01] <Conker> cafuego: thanks, got it going man! 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[15:41:15] *** rouri has joined #postfix [15:42:18] <devdas> add it to /etc/hosts [16:31:23] *** kurt_ has joined #postfix [16:46:15] *** xpoint has joined #postfix [16:54:35] *** pulsar has joined #postfix [17:02:17] *** rouri has quit IRC [17:05:27] *** mltlnx has joined #postfix [17:06:05] <mltlnx> besides REJECT what other actions are available in access_sender hash? [17:11:04] *** mltlnx has quit IRC [17:12:12] *** sophokles has quit IRC [17:17:37] *** rouri has joined #postfix [17:23:11] *** nekker has joined #postfix [17:23:17] *** nekker has left #postfix [17:42:11] <lunaphyte> my freakin' toes are FREEZING! [17:42:40] <lunaphyte> !access [17:42:41] <knoba> lunaphyte: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server. [17:42:49] <lunaphyte> oh, he left. [17:43:50] *** F6F has joined #postfix [17:44:30] * devdas gives lunaphyte an AMd CPU without a fan [17:44:40] <lunaphyte> oohh, good idea. 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I'd have to do it for each and every user/network that needed to send e-mail through my server. They don't need to relay, it just needs to deliver mail to virtual users. [21:28:57] *** higuita has quit IRC [21:39:00] <alliebean> so is anyone else around here who might be able to help me out? pretty please? :) [21:39:14] *** muecke77 has left #postfix [21:39:58] *** troison has joined #postfix [21:42:35] *** blackflag has quit IRC [21:45:30] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC [21:50:26] <alliebean> just to reiterate, the problem is that mail from outside -> aliases -> virtual mailboxen == fine ... mail sent through my server (using it as my SMTP server) -> aliases -> virtual mailboxen returns an error saying the user doesn't exist ... 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