[00:00:03] <lunaphyte> !logs
[00:00:04] <knoba> lunaphyte: "logs" : postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going. also see !have2mung
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[00:03:58] <aka> hello i want to whitelist my postfix outgoing mail so emails sent from my server only can be sent to email addresses that match my whitelist
[00:04:08] <aka> does anyone know the best way to do this?
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[00:07:33] <aka> shit even a blacklist for outgoing would work for me
[00:08:54] <libervisco> Hi, I'm wondering why is thunderbird from my mail server (using postfix and courier) receiving mail from a while ago yet mail on my server is showing two newer ones which it isn't getting?
[00:09:53] <libervisco> basically, when I check my mail with thunderbird I get something else, not the mail that's sitting in /var/log/myemail
[00:12:21] <lunaphyte> !check_recipient_access
[00:12:21] <knoba> lunaphyte: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
[00:12:29] <lunaphyte> aka:  ^^
[00:12:52] <lunaphyte> libervisco: smtp isn't for checking mail.
[00:13:14] <libervisco> I'm using courier-pop3d
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[00:13:47] <libervisco> and log shows thunderbird connects fine
[00:15:02] <pickcoder> postfix isn't courier
[00:15:34] <libervisco> it seems to come with it, I thought it was a bundle..
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[00:15:42] <pickcoder> um.. no
[00:16:06] <pickcoder> maybe in your distribution for "mail server"
[00:16:11] <pickcoder> which is a general software group
[00:16:44] <libervisco> hm
[00:16:48] <pickcoder> #courier
[00:16:52] <libervisco> ok thanks
[00:16:58] <libervisco> that channel doesn't exist
[00:17:07] <libervisco> oh wait
[00:17:07] <pickcoder> ##courier maybe?
[00:17:09] <pickcoder> I don't run it
[00:17:12] <libervisco> must've mispelled
[00:17:15] <libervisco> it does
[00:17:20] <libervisco> thanks
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[00:22:50] <lunaphyte> what a great website: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/
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[00:26:37] <SARGuy> ok different question..  which parameter to reject all but the address' in the Virt Table?
[00:26:47] <scort> http://www.king-mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/itdept.jpg
[00:26:57] <scort> er, wrong paste
[00:27:03] <scort> Nov 20 17:25:09 mail postfix/smtpd[25622]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: dev
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[00:29:46] <lunaphyte> that's one hell of a freudian slip.
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[00:30:55] <scort> inorite?
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[00:31:51] <lunaphyte> i wonder what that dude is doing right this second.
[00:32:13] <lunaphyte> and why is there a jar of vasoline on the floor behind him?
[00:32:34] <lunaphyte> is that an old tattered jock strap next to it?
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[00:32:47] <lunaphyte> poor cat, that's all i can say.
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[00:35:56] <k-man> hello
[00:36:06] <k-man> for some reason postfix shut down during the night
[00:36:09] <k-man> how can i work out why?
[00:38:16] <roe_> anything in the log?
[00:38:26] <aka> thanks lunaphyte, looking into check_recipient_access now
[00:39:11] <k-man> roe_: the first thing that seems like a problem is this: fatal: www-data(33): unable to execute /usr/sbin/postdrop -r: Success
[00:39:25] <k-man> and then i get lots of errors like that
[00:40:05] <k-man> or maybe this error: Nov 21 01:57:04 debian postfix/sendmail[24844]: warning: command "/usr/sbin/postdrop -r" exited with status 9
[00:40:11] <aka> I am reading about check_recipient_access and it seems like it is for incoming mail :\
[00:41:40] <lunaphyte> there is no spoon
[00:42:10] <lunaphyte> or "incoming" or "outgoing".  mail is received, and mail is sent.
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[00:48:12] <aka> luna: so are you saying it works for emails in both directions?
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[00:54:40] <NoTerminal> question..  how does one specify that authenticated users may relay regardless of their source IP in postfix+cyrus SASL
[00:56:19] <growltiger_> !permist_sasl_authenticated
[00:56:20] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "permist_sasl_authenticated" is not a valid command.
[00:56:27] <growltiger_> !permit_sasl_authenticated
[00:56:28] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "permit_sasl_authenticated" is not a valid command.
[00:56:35] <growltiger_> whatever
[00:56:35] <NoTerminal> bot fail?
[00:56:50] <growltiger_> it's a very un user friendly one
[00:57:01] <NoTerminal> i have similar problems in my regular channel
[00:57:08] <NoTerminal> and i wrote the damned thing :-/
[00:57:37] <NoTerminal> so.. i take it i can look up permit_sasl_authenticated and i should find my answers :P
[00:57:56] <NoTerminal> ok.. yea
[00:58:01] <NoTerminal> i already have that in my main.cf
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[00:58:43] <NoTerminal> in the smtpd_recepient_restrictions list
[00:58:43] <NoTerminal> is that the appropriate location for that parameter ?
[00:59:37] <NoTerminal> or should it be in this mysterious section labeled "smtpd_client_restrictions"
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[01:30:18] <timotiCK> why would postfix delay the receiving of an email
[01:33:44] <NoTerminal> how do you know it's delayed?
[01:34:40] <timotiCK> some of my clients are getting their emails a day or two days after it was sent to them
[01:35:05] <shasta> logs will tell you everything
[01:35:15] <lunaphyte> look at the logs.
[01:35:49] <timotiCK> what would a good keyword to look for in the log
[01:35:58] <NoTerminal> a few quick ideas.. you might be running out of inbound available connections in a flood of inbound spam..
[01:36:05] <lunaphyte> !debug
[01:36:06] <knoba> lunaphyte: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[01:36:07] <NoTerminal> the forign servers might be the source of the delay
[01:36:29] <NoTerminal> timotiCK: you want to try and find when the message was first received
[01:36:41] <NoTerminal> i bet it's not coming into your server until right when its delivered
[01:37:12] <shasta> keywords? recipient's and sender's email addresses <:
[01:37:32] <NoTerminal> thats actually a good idea
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[01:38:55] <timotiCK> NoTerminal: ". you might be running out of inbound available connections" Is it a good idea to increase the inbound connection number??
[01:39:10] <NoTerminal> timotiCK: not yet.. first find out if thats the problemm
[01:39:21] <shasta> first of all, it's a very wrong idea to run a mailserver without having a clue how it works
[01:39:23] <NoTerminal> you'll probably be getting errors about rejected connections
[01:39:35] <NoTerminal> everyone starts somewhere
[01:39:45] <lunaphyte> grrr.  why the f is amavis not adding spam headers to my messages?
[01:39:59] <shasta> does it check them at all, lunaphyte?
[01:40:21] <shasta> NoTerminal, but not at the point where you have "your clients"
[01:41:00] <NoTerminal> trial by fire is not a best-case-situation but often thats where you find your self in a new job.
[01:41:36] <lunaphyte> shasta: yeah, it's processing them - i can see that in the logs - but it's not adding X-Spam-Status and X-Spam-Level headers, even though i've set @local_domains_acl = (1); and $sa_tag_level_deflt = -9999;
[01:41:55] <timotiCK> The senders to my server are also getting timeout errors.
[01:41:58] <lunaphyte> i've done this a million times.  i know i'm missing something stupid.
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[01:52:47] <lunaphyte> hmm.  well, it's definitely reading the 50-user config file for amavis.  i can set $X_HEADER_LINE in there and see the change.
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[01:58:42] <dorfman> I have a postfix server that acts as a relay - it sits behind a spam appliance. I'd like to examine the spam headers and then, on a per recipient look up either quietly discard or relay the message.
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[01:59:03] <dorfman> can any one give me some tips on where to rtfm before i ask any more questions about it?
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[02:00:34] <lunaphyte> how about instead of a tip, we give you 3 guesses? :)
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[02:01:11] <dorfman> alright, let me phrase this in a clearer way. I've read a bunch of the stuff at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
[02:01:31] <dorfman> I still don't quite get how to do per recipient look up header checks
[02:01:46] <dorfman> I'm not actually sure if it's possible
[02:01:47] <lunaphyte> what have you tried?
[02:02:22] <dorfman> nothing!
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[02:02:41] <dorfman> it seems not reasonable to just randomly try things without understanding how it fits together
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[02:03:25] <dorfman> I was thinking that it might require an after queue content filter that just either silently discarded or reinjected
[02:03:58] <dorfman> but i'm not sure that's the best - or even a reasonable - way of doing it
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[02:07:46] <dorfman> also, near as I can tell - content filtering applies equally to all recipients of a message
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[02:09:39] <timotiCK> NoTerminal: Thanks for the advice mate
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[04:35:27] <mmcji> howdee
[04:35:47] <mmcji> I am setting up postfix on ubuntu
[04:36:46] <mmcji> i am now able to send and receive e-mail from postfix, BUT e-mail that I receive from the new mail server does not have the complete domain attached to the sender.
[04:37:03] <mmcji> example.  from: user@example
[04:37:18] <mmcji> it does not say user at example dot com
[04:37:48] <mmcji> Is this setup in /etc/postfix/main.cf ?
[04:38:16] <growltiger_> !myhostname
[04:38:16] <knoba> growltiger_: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.
[04:43:35] <mmcji> growltiger: I was not sure if you were responding to me or not.  I did get myhostname and it is my FQDN.
[04:43:55] <mmcji> i mean, i did check my hostname and it is my FQDN.
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[06:10:34] <mikealeonetti1> I need to configure postfix with transports
[06:10:37] <mikealeonetti1> any good guides?
[06:12:26] <chadmaynard> man transport?
[06:13:07] <mikealeonetti1> ok
[06:13:08] <mikealeonetti1> thanks
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[06:13:27] <roe_> !transport
[06:13:28] <knoba> roe_: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
[06:13:28] <chadmaynard> it isn't tough.
[06:13:31] <roe_> that website
[06:13:50] <mikealeonetti1> roe_: thanks
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[06:26:40] <roe_> here is an odd one... I am getting multiple connects/disconnects logged in mail.log by smtpd from a machine that is running thunderbird
[06:26:49] <roe_> per second
[06:28:05] <roe_> and also from a relaying mail server
[06:28:20] <roe_> the only negative impact is really large log files
[06:29:14] <roe_> but something isn't kosher
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[09:07:49] <mmcji> howdee
[09:08:20] <mmcji> when sending e-mail from postfix, what defines who the e-mail is from
[09:08:46] <mmcji> i am just getting user@example, when sending e-mail, instead of user at example dot com
[09:13:20] <growltiger> !myhostname
[09:13:20] <knoba> growltiger: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.
[09:16:03] <mmcji> growltiger: is your response to me?
[09:16:50] <mmcji> myhost name is a FQDN, not an incomplete one.
[09:18:21] <mmcji> where is gethostname defined?
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[09:33:51] <cite> Setting relyhost = foo seems to work as intended, doing MX lookups for foo and using results as smarthosts. Neat.
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[10:47:14] <shal3r> I have mailserver with spamassasin but one user is getting very many spam messages. Each message is sent from different host all messages are in russian, so spamassasin cannot recognize them. Any other ideas how to block this?
[10:49:05] <Tapnzout> don't use catch all and use that spamhaus setting
[10:49:06] <Tapnzout> sec
[10:49:23] <Tapnzout> smtpd_client_restrictions =
[10:49:23] <Tapnzout>    reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org
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[10:50:27] <shal3r> this will block known spammers, right?
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[10:52:27] <shal3r> thanks, i hope this will help
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[10:54:40] <remoteCTRL> hi everybody!
[10:54:51] <remoteCTRL> i have the following question:
[10:55:46] <remoteCTRL> i have yesterday implemented three "mailinglists" by adding some entries into the "virtual" file; students@mydomain, supervisors@mydomain and all@mydomain
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[10:56:23] <remoteCTRL> obviously all of the adresses that are contained in all@mydomain also are contained in students and in supervisors
[10:56:36] <remoteCTRL> after that i sent a test email to all three mailing lists
[10:56:55] <remoteCTRL> the i suspected that everybody ought to receive the mail TWICE
[10:57:01] <remoteCTRL> but it came only once
[10:57:16] <remoteCTRL> this leads me to the following conclusion and i wonder if it is correct:
[10:58:00] <remoteCTRL> postfix recognizes, that the mail was going to be sent to duplicate adresses and therefore is clever enuff to only send it once?
[10:58:06] <remoteCTRL> is that correct?
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[11:01:33] <remoteCTRL> anybody, please?
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[11:05:09] <shal3r> Tapnzout, works like a charm - 20 messages was blocked in about 10 minutes :)
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[11:08:21] <Tapnzout> shal3r, gimme money
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[11:32:08] <deface> shal3r: do you have any other smtpd_client_restrictions ?
[11:33:53] <IcyPolecat_> hiya, I assume this is possible but not sure which combination of config directives I need to be looking at. I'd like to configure postfix as a mail relay that is permitted to send to all domains but only from within my subnet. This is a local system so I son't really want to use saslauthd but Postfix is telling me I must have a reject directive. Would permit_my_networks be suffcient to achive this even if followed by reject_unauth_
[11:33:53] <IcyPolecat_> destination?
[11:34:04] <shal3r> deface, smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org
[11:34:08] <deface> shal3r: reject_non_fqdn_sender reject_non_fqdn_recipient reject_unknown_sender_domain reject_unknown_recipient_domain reject_unauth_destination reject_invalid_hostname reject_non_fqdn_hostname
[11:34:41] <shal3r> ohh, thanks
[11:34:52] <deface> http://svn.fluxlabs.net/postfix/trunk/main.cf
[11:35:03] <deface> if u wanna peep my file
[11:35:11] <cite> IcyPolecat_: The default setting for smtpd_recipient_restrictions is just fine for that.
[11:35:27] <wonderwal> hello im thinking of using postfix. i would like to know which would be the easiest pop3 server to use with it
[11:35:45] <deface> wonderwal: dovecot or courier .. both pretty easy
[11:36:12] <cite> deface: svn.fluxlabs.net yields an NXDOMAIN here.
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[11:36:42] <shal3r> deface, thanks, you are awesome ;)
[11:36:47] <deface> cite: get a better dns server
[11:36:54] <deface> jeremy@octane ~ $ host svn.fluxlabs.net
[11:36:54] <deface> svn.fluxlabs.net has address 69.73.89.182
[11:37:05] <cite> deface: No, check ns3.fluxlabs.net
[11:37:17] <shal3r> #  host svn.fluxlabs.net
[11:37:17] <shal3r> Host svn.fluxlabs.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[11:37:18] <shal3r> ;)
[11:37:24] <IcyPolecat_> cite: thanks - but I'm getting 554 5.7.1 <email at domin dot com>: Relay access denied when attempting to send out
[11:37:35] <cite> IcyPolecat_: Is the seeting of mynetworks correct?
[11:37:54] <IcyPolecat_> cite: I assume so ... give me a sec
[11:37:59] <wonderwal> deface: am i correct that greylisting is also easy to implement?
[11:38:25] <deface> hmm
[11:38:31] <deface> wonderwal: yes
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[11:40:50] <IcyPolecat_> cite: sorry - my mistake, I had reset it to localhost only :-) works as expected now.
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[11:45:16] <IcyPolecat_> more general question. Is it bad practice to restrict emails to 1 address per envelope or should I be handling the envelope split later on (milter code with profiles per recipient makes this a bit of a nightmare)
[11:49:17] <cite> I don't understand your question. There is only one MAIL FROM per mail, but there can be up to smtpd_recipient_limit RCPT TO commands per transaction.
[11:50:24] <deface> cite: better ?
[11:52:11] <cite> deface: Much better.
[11:52:23] <deface> ty
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[11:52:32] <deface> wasnt aware it was borked
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[11:54:02] <cedric33> ihi i try to see the size of the mail  on the queue of postfix i try with postqueue but i have not this option thanks for your help
[11:54:04] <IcyPolecat_> cite: sorry yes, I mean to limit messages to one rcpt to per message is this practice and what's the support like for splitting and re-sending mail on other servers?
[11:54:38] <cite> IcyPolecat_: Usually, you don't limit the number of recipients to 1 at smtp time.
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[11:54:49] <deface> cedric33: the size of the email, or the number of emails in queue ?
[11:55:26] 
[11:55:49] <cedric33> deface, : the size of the mail on the queue
[11:56:15] <cedric33> because i see a mail of the personn is very long to go out the queue i want to see the size of this mail
[11:57:10] <deface> cedric33: du -hs
[11:57:11] <deface> :)
[11:57:57] <cedric33> the mail is not on the user mail directory :)
[11:58:04] <cedric33> it 's not possible ?
[11:58:24] <cedric33> i see on mail.log  size=8324 :)
[11:58:52] <cedric33> thanks
[11:58:53] <deface> /var/spool/postfix ?
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[12:10:25] <spitfirekdv> Hi all! I have local_recipient_maps =$alias_maps unix:passwd.byname in main.cf. Then I added system user, but received User unknown in local recipient table
[12:10:30] <mmcji> when sending e-mail from postfix, what defines who the e-mail is from
[12:10:30] <mmcji> when i receive mail I send from the mail server to my gmail account, the mail shows form user@example, instead of user at example dot com
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[12:11:29] <trukosh> Hi, we want to migrate out internal mailserver. I search an option to tell postfix to buffer mails for 3 days, before it will be sent back to sender.
[12:12:33] <mmcji> i am open to suggestions and can post config files in postbin if needed
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[12:14:15] <mmcji> i mean pastebin
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[12:24:52] <deface> mmcji: append_at_myorigin = yes
[12:25:14] <mmcji> deface: thank you I will try that.
[12:25:20] <deface> spitfirekdv: postconf -n to a pastebin
[12:25:53] <deface> trukosh: maximal_queue_lifetime = 3d
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[12:26:17] <trukosh> Thanks deface!!
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[12:27:13] <deface> atleast i think thats the option .. ha
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[12:31:37] <mmcji> deface: I just happened to check /etc/hostname and found that it was NOT my fqdn.  Doh!  I changed that and now when I send e-mail it has the fqdn of my mail server.
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[12:32:14] <deface> mmcji: true
[12:32:48] <mmcji> i did check my origin as well and this is what I have myorigin = /etc/mailname
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[12:33:04] <mmcji> where mailname does contain my fqdn
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[12:33:22] <mmcji> so i guess my hostname was the cause
[12:33:42] <deface> usually myorigin = $mydomain
[12:33:46] <deface> and $mydomain = fqdn
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[12:34:10] <mmcji> does $mydomain point to /etc/hostname?
[12:34:17] <deface> no
[12:34:31] <deface> $mydomain refers to the variable in main.cf
[12:34:39] <deface> myorigin = $mydomain
[12:34:46] <deface> $mydomain = zeus.fluxlabs.net
[12:34:56] <deface> hence my fqdn
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[12:35:12] <mmcji> o ok, gotcha, so that is how you define the sender of the mail, when you want it to be different from the hostname of the mail server its self?
[12:35:36] <deface> could, or you could use some address rewrites
[12:36:02] <mmcji> which is the best practices way of doing it?
[12:36:17] <deface> are you virtual?
[12:36:33] <deface> it doesnt rewrite by default, so shouldn't be a need to modify anything
[12:36:37] <deface> sender in > sender out
[12:36:38] <deface> same
[12:36:38] <mmcji> that is my plan.  I have 5 different domains
[12:36:56] <mmcji> but i am just trying to get my head around postfix at this point
[12:37:56] <deface> ah
[12:37:59] <deface> !basic
[12:38:00] <knoba> deface: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[12:39:02] <mmcji> knoba: i have been reading that page too.  not realizing my hostname was not correct through me for a loop. :-)
[12:39:34] <deface> hes a bot
[12:39:35] <mmcji> thanks folks, no off to see what i can break next..
[12:39:41] <mmcji> o, lol
[12:39:49] <spitfirekdv> deface: http://pastebin.com/m7f4b53fa
[12:44:39] <deface> spitfirekdv: what does your aliases file look like ?
[12:46:08] <spitfirekdv> etc/aliases?
[12:46:14] <deface> yup
[12:46:24] <spitfirekdv> mailer-daemon: postmaster
[12:46:27] <spitfirekdv> postmaster: user
[12:46:28] <spitfirekdv> etc
[12:46:37] <deface> k
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[12:47:26] <deface> did u postmap the aliases file after editing ?
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[12:49:12] <spitfirekdv> I didn't edit this file, because for example user2 doesn't exists in this file, but he receives mail
[12:49:31] <deface> ?
[12:50:44] <spitfirekdv> there is a system user - user2, he receives mail fine, but he doesn't exist in aliases file
[12:50:53] <deface> correct
[12:51:14] <deface> but the new user, gets unknown
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[12:53:19] <deface> hmm
[12:55:07] <deface> do you have the domain listed in virtual ?
[12:55:59] <spitfirekdv> local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps unix:passwd.byname when I changed this string to local_recipient_maps =   I receive mail well, but this in not secure
[12:56:26] <deface> whats in your virtuals ?
[12:56:36] <deface> do you have the local listed in it?
[12:56:48] <deface> local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps
[12:56:52] <deface> if so, remove it
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[12:57:47] <spitfirekdv> etc/postfix/virtual    user@virtualdomain1 user1
[12:57:59] <spitfirekdv> stuff like this
[12:58:12] <deface> is the domain listed ther ?
[12:58:43] <spitfirekdv> where?
[12:58:56] <deface> virtual_alias_domains = mydomain
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[13:00:57] <spitfirekdv> virtual_alias_domains = another_domain
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[13:09:20] <spitfirekdv> I moment - when I add user, using useradd - how does postfix know, that /etc/passwd changed?
[13:09:40] <f3ew> It doesn't
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[13:09:48] <deface> nor does it care
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[13:19:07] <IcyPolecat> cite: sorry - lost our net connection for a bit then. Does my last message sound about right?
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[13:55:29] <nicku> does someone know any good postfix+pam+winbind howto
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[13:57:52] <wonderwal> uhh
[13:58:59] <wonderwal> im trying to run postfix for the first time. when i telnet in to my server, it says nothing ( i configured it to announce the server version)
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[13:59:32] <deface> smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP
[14:04:42] <spitfirekdv> I have 1 more problem. I need mail for user@virtualdomain to be forwarded to 2 users. I added to /etc/postfix/virtual user@virtualdomain   user1 - works fine. But when I try to add  ser@virtualdomain   user2,  I receive postmap: warning: /etc/postfix/virtual: duplicate entry:
[14:05:13] <spitfirekdv> or this is just a warning?
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[14:15:13] <wonderwal> deface: yes, but it says nothing. my server responds to absolutely nothing
[14:15:31] <wonderwal> it says nothing too
[14:17:47] <deface> then it may not be running ;)
[14:17:58] <deface> netstat | grep 25
[14:18:23] <deface> spitfirekdv: user at virtualdomain dot com: user1
[14:18:31] <deface> user2 at virtualdomain dot com: user2
[14:18:34] <deface> need the :
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[14:22:08] <wonderwal> but it is running
[14:22:20] <wonderwal> when i stop postfix, i cant telnet in anymore
[14:22:23] <wonderwal> when i start it, i can
[14:24:32] <wonderwal> ouch
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[14:27:27] <wonderwal> i even see
[14:27:27] <wonderwal> Nov 21 20:27:42 saturn postfix/master[30378]: daemon started -- version 2.5.4, configuration /usr/local/etc/postfix
[14:39:44] <deface> what does it say when you telnet in?
[14:39:47] <deface> any errors in logs?
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[14:48:36] <spitfirekdv> deface: no I have 1 adress and need all mail for this adress to be forwarded to both users
[14:49:29] <deface> * at virtualdomain dot com: user
[14:51:00] <spitfirekdv> no )) I have user@domain and need receive all mail for user@domain also to user1@domain and user2@domain
[14:52:39] <deface> so you want an alias
[14:53:47] <f3ew> !virtual_alias_maps
[14:53:48] <knoba> f3ew: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).
[14:56:05] <spitfirekdv> yes, but I can't add user@domain user1 and user@domain user2 to /etc/postfix/virtual
[14:58:20] <deface> why ?
[14:58:26] <deface> user@domain: user1
[14:58:27] <deface> user@domain: user2
[14:58:39] <deface> i told you to use the :
[14:58:44] <deface> which your examples dont hae
[14:58:47] <deface> have *
[14:59:07] <IcyPolecat> does anyone know if it is possible to hook milters to seperate transports or do they have to go on smtp
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[15:00:09] <spitfirekdv> user@domain: user1    user@domain: user2
[15:00:11] <spitfirekdv> postmap -N /etc/postfix/virtual
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[15:00:31] <spitfirekdv>  warning: /etc/postfix/virtual: duplicate entry: "user@domain"
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[15:01:27] <deface> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#virtual
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[15:15:23] <cedric33> hi when i see size=633318  is it a octet or  kilo octet thanks
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[16:00:16] <xpoint> cedric33, its bytes
[16:03:22] <xpoint> 618,474609 kb
[16:04:18] <xpoint> 0,603979111 mb
[16:05:09] <spitfirekdv> what is a format of recipient_bcc_maps file?
[16:05:38] <xpoint> recipient recipient_bcc
[16:06:23] <spitfirekdv> yes, thank you
[16:06:24] <xpoint> recipient recipient_bcc,recipient_bcc#
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[16:20:43] <Bucciarati> g'day
[16:22:02] <Bucciarati> how would i go about --> status=bounced (unknown user: "myuser")
[16:22:48] <Bucciarati> (the user is an alias and i can resolve it with postmap)
[16:23:04] <Bucciarati> # postconf alias_maps
[16:23:05] <Bucciarati> alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-aliases
[16:23:28] <Bucciarati> # postmap -q myuser@the_domain mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-aliases
[16:23:39] <Bucciarati> address@first,address@second
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[16:24:50] <cedric33> xpoint : thanks
[16:25:00] <Bucciarati> (the domain is in the mydestination ones)
[16:26:17] <cedric33> i have a more virtual domain on my postfix . I have one who is more spammed  i don't know if it possible when the mail is taged by spamassasin "spam" is not send to the user but send on the special mailbox spam
[16:26:20] <cedric33> thanks
[16:27:02] <Bucciarati> oh my fault
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[16:28:35] <cedric33> nobody have any idea ? :)
[16:29:26] <lunaphyte_> cedric33: sure it's possible.
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[16:30:11] <cedric33> lunaphyte : i search a documentation to do that but i have not find
[16:30:32] <cedric33> this day the domain have receiv 15000 spam mail
[16:30:46] <cedric33> it full the queue
[16:31:25] <lunaphyte_> you'll have to use an lda that can rad the headers set by sa.
[16:31:31] <lunaphyte_> *read the headers
[16:32:05] <cedric33> if it found the domain name and the spam taged it send to an other mailbox
[16:32:18] <cedric33> is it correct ?
[16:33:10] <cedric33> have you an documentation postfix to do that?
[16:33:14] <cedric33> thanks for your help
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[16:53:57] <IcyPolecat> Sorry to ask again does anyone know if it is possible to hook milters to seperate transports or do they have to be attached to smtpd
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[17:10:49] <wonderwal> hi, im being told Nov 21 23:10:52 saturn postfix/smtpd[31818]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Inappropriate file type or format
[17:12:04] <wonderwal> mmm
[17:12:48] <cpm> run newaliases
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[17:17:37] <wonderwal> yeah ok
[17:21:30] <wonderwal> nice thanks
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[17:53:45] <wonderwal> let's say you want your mailserver to serve domain domain.com, but the domain of the box postfix is running on is someotherdomain.com. should you set domain/host in the config file to domain.com ?
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[18:05:04] <roe> do you want local or virtual users?
[18:05:17] <roe> !my_destination
[18:05:17] <knoba> roe: Error: "my_destination" is not a valid command.
[18:05:19] <roe> !my_destinations
[18:05:19] <knoba> roe: Error: "my_destinations" is not a valid command.
[18:05:23] <roe> !mydestinations
[18:05:23] <knoba> roe: Error: "mydestinations" is not a valid command.
[18:05:25] <roe> !mydestination
[18:05:25] <knoba> roe: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[18:05:28] <roe> there we go
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[18:08:45] <wonderwal> ok
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[18:09:05] <wonderwal> which config parameter would set that i want auth to come from /etc/passwd?
[18:09:15] <roe> so local users
[18:09:52] <roe> what os?
[18:09:56] <wonderwal> freebsd
[18:10:40] <roe> I do not know much about freebsd, however, postfix on linux uses pam, which auths to /etc/passwd
[18:10:47] <wonderwal> im first trying local.. maybe i'll switch to virtual later
[18:10:49] <wonderwal> mm
[18:10:51] <roe> you can change this default behaviour
[18:10:54] <wonderwal> but where would that be in main.cf
[18:11:18] <roe> well, to auth you are looking at:
[18:11:20] <roe> !SASL
[18:11:21] <knoba> roe: "SASL" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[18:11:34] <wonderwal> yep
[18:11:41] <roe> usually paired with:
[18:11:43] <roe> !TLS
[18:11:44] <knoba> roe: "TLS" : short for "Transport Layer Security" (RFC2246). It adds an additional layer of encryption to protocols like SMTP, POP3 or IMAP to improve security during transmission over the internet. You can find HOWTOs on that topic on http://www.postfix.org/docs.html
[18:11:51] <roe> but not necessarily
[18:11:52] <wonderwal> im just saying, how does postfix know to use /etc/passwd or virtual users
[18:11:59] <roe> you tell sasl to
[18:12:14] <roe> you configure postfix to use sasl, and sasl to use whatever backend you want
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[18:12:43] <wonderwal> ah
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[18:13:52] <newton> Okay, i've got an issue here, can someone help me out? i just 'pasted' a few details.. I can read out the fault but dont know how to fix this. http://pastie.org/320721
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[18:16:14] <roe> newton, ls -l
[18:16:19] <roe> permission issue?
[18:16:29] <newton> in which directory?
[18:16:39] <newton> postfix or ssl ?
[18:16:41] <roe> for the two files you are having issues with
[18:16:45] <newton> ok
[18:16:52] <growltiger> chmod 600
[18:17:08] <wonderwal> roe: im trying to test smtp auth just with plain auth, if my username is test and password is password, should perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print encode_base64("username\0username\0password");' print out the base64 string i need to AUTH PLAIN with?
[18:17:19] <wonderwal> username is username sorry
[18:17:42] <newton> done, restarting postfix, generating new logwatch
[18:17:59] <roe> what do you mean done? what are the permissions
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[18:18:34] <roe> wonderwal, not sure, not familiar with that perl lib, but looks about right
[18:18:36] <growltiger> that's 644
[18:18:43] <roe> the crt needs to be
[18:18:46] <roe> they key shouldn't be
[18:18:48] <newton> i just chmodded to 600 like you sayd
[18:18:51] <wonderwal> roe: ouch it wont auth me
[18:18:52] <roe> er the key shouldn't be
[18:19:35] <roe> wonderwal, I always setup a mail client for auth testing
[18:19:42] <roe> and ssh tunnel if necessary
[18:19:46] <wonderwal> ok i will try
[18:20:11] <newton> roe: so the crt needs to be 600 ? and the key needs to be 644 ?
[18:20:19] <wonderwal> is it necessary to specify a domain name in the username? i have
[18:20:21] <roe> reverse that
[18:20:32] <roe> newton^
[18:20:43] <roe> the crt needs to be world readable - the key is secret
[18:20:59] <roe> wonderwal, depends how you set up postfix
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[18:21:23] <wonderwal> well i have smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname , but right now im just testing plain auth
[18:22:39] <newton> roe: i did that still same output on logwatch, wait i'll pastie the whole postfix block in it
[18:24:01] <newton> http://pastie.org/320731
[18:24:15] <wonderwal> but that looks sasl specific, not for plain
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[18:26:01] <roe> newton, do you have postfix with tls support?
[18:26:17] <newton> roe: i'm not sure, how can i check that?
[18:26:18] * cpm read that as a newton with tls support
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[18:26:43] <newton> i guess so, as i see the log,
[18:26:54] <newton> cpm: yes i guess.
[18:27:14] <growltiger> i dont think you do
[18:27:57] <growltiger> i dont think the default centos postfix has it
[18:28:06] <roe> what os, what version of postfix, where did you get the build
[18:28:15] <newton> centos, yum :P
[18:28:28] <roe> some distros have a separate package postfix-tls
[18:29:05] <newton> its not availible
[18:29:24] <newton> postfix-2.1.5
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[18:33:57] <newton> postconf -e 'smtpd_use_tls = no'
[18:33:58] <newton> i guess??
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[18:37:57] <newton> i'll just build postfix from source;)
[18:40:44] <roe> two points for debian
[18:41:53] <newton> lol roe, debian wouldn't boot (the install cd, netinstall.) But then again, Why not CentOS i like debian, but i also want to use centos its different but then again why not learn it?
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[18:44:47] <growltiger> centos is actually used in businesses
[18:44:59] <roe> and debian isn't?
[18:45:06] * roe takes it back
[18:45:12] <roe> doesn't want to start a distro flame war
[18:45:34] <newton> it doesn't matter, come on. They are both linux;)
[18:45:52] <roe> at least it isn't frreebsd ;)
[18:46:13] <newton> i prefer to say blowbox (A.K.A windows.)
[18:47:47] <lunaphyte_> windows is also used in businesses, so that doesn't say much ;)
[18:48:20] <newton> So is debian.
[18:48:21] <roe> touche
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[19:44:44] <ki_> Hello. what does theA0690181B8E9 refer to? mail ID? message ID?
[19:44:50] <ki_> Nov 21 00:55:16 cider postfix/smtp[2123]: A0690181B8E9: to=<email at domain dot com>, relay=mail.domain.com[IP_ADDRESS], delay=107, status=sent (250 Message queued)
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[19:45:34] <devdas> queueid
[19:45:50] <ki_> thank you
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[19:47:40] <xorl> Any of you familiar with postfix admin?
[19:47:48] <Dominian> yep
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[19:48:01] <xorl> Well, i am using it, a couple of days ago it worked fine (creating maildirs) now, mysteriously it's not creating the physical maildir.
[19:48:16] <xorl> I have been looking through the code but I do not see where it does the physical creation of the maildir.
[19:48:44] <xorl> Creates it in the database just fine says it creates everything but the maildir does not exist.
[19:49:18] <Dominian> check your maillog or your web server logs
[19:49:22] <Dominian> sounds to me like a permissions issue
[19:49:45] <ki_> perms would be first place i would look too
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[19:50:59] <xorl> I have been looking at the permissions, but it's baffling me, checked the rdiff from 2 weeks ago and they look similar, but can't confirm it all 100% (all the files that is)
[19:51:15] <xorl> I am damn sure it is perms. maillog didn't say anything when i created the Mailbox in postfix admin
[19:51:26] <Dominian> look in your web server logs
[19:51:34] <Dominian> error.log specifically for apache
[19:51:44] <Dominian> 99% of the time its perms with postfix admin
[19:52:14] <xorl> nothing about that in there, just see the standard error about 'favicon.ico' missing
[19:52:31] <Dominian> weird
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[19:52:42] <xorl> That is why I am baffled
[19:52:56] <Dominian> Yeah.. not sure what to tell you really
[19:53:02] <Dominian> each setup is diff and some distros do it differently.
[19:53:20] <xorl> FreeBSD, postfix with latest postfix admin all mailboxes in /var/mail/virtual
[19:53:28] <Dominian> hrm
[19:53:32] <Dominian> wiki.slackadelic.com
[19:53:40] <Dominian> the mailserver tutorial MAY help.. but I dunno
[19:53:44] <Dominian> check the postfixadmin section
[19:53:52] <xorl> yeah I was just sorta handed this project lol
[19:55:07] <Dominian> hehe
[19:55:09] <Dominian> I know how that goes
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[19:58:09] <Dominian> xorl: what are your perms on /var/mail/virtual?
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[20:11:36] <ki_> Hello. I took the room intro text to heart.
[20:11:40] <ki_> 1) Some customers intermittently receiving duplicate emails. Not all customers receive duplicate emails. The customers vary; one customer may get duplicate emails one mailing, and not the next. Please see settings and logs:
[20:11:47] <ki_> http://pastebin.com/m25b9e565
[20:12:12] <ki_> 2) Notice the time sent is the exact same time, yet has a different Queue ID. Each message sent has a unique ID included within the message header for tracking the message. The message is recorded by the database as being queued once. The unique ID applied at time of queue by software is found in both messages that were sent.
[20:12:32] <Dominian> if the queue id is changing then I'd say the customer is submitting it twice
[20:12:38] <Dominian> or the sende ris submitting twice
[20:13:07] <ki_> So i have the application/database layer saying it queued once, and at time of queue it applies a unique tracking code to the header
[20:13:13] <ki_> and the postfix log showing two queues
[20:13:28] <ki_> what about disk errors?
[20:13:38] <ki_> during the writing
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[20:14:28] <ki_> the email is only in the list once. the application is coded to only queue it once. the database confirms it was queued once. postfix logs have two different queue ID's.
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[20:15:05] <ki_> so would you guys look into the disk-writing / queue'ing too?
[20:17:36] <xorl> Dominian: a+rwx
[20:17:54] <Dominian> xorl: that fix it?
[20:17:59] <xorl> nope
[20:18:02] <Dominian> damn
[20:20:09] <hparker> Any ideas what my wore out brain missed? http://rafb.net/p/X2AWrD44.html
[20:21:21] <devdas> hparker: see my comment in the other channel
[20:21:39] <xorl> Where's the command where it creates the maildir?
[20:23:03] <hparker> devdas: How far up? http://rafb.net/p/tPDwP857.html
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[20:24:24] <devdas> top
[20:24:37] <devdas> before all the reject statements
[20:24:46] <hparker> k
[20:24:55] <xorl> I went through the code I don't see anywhere where postfix admin actually runs the maildirmake
[20:25:00] <devdas> Also, s/DUNNO/OK/
[20:25:09] <hparker> And looking at it, I may not of got the rule that it was tripping on
[20:25:25] <hparker> Oh? Thought OK bypassed everything?
[20:26:43] <devdas> only the checks in that set of restrictions
[20:26:56] <hparker> ahh
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[20:28:39] <xorl> Is postfix supposed to automatically create the maildirs?
[20:28:51] <devdas> yes
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[20:30:52] <xorl> that's the issue then
[20:31:04] <xorl> Postfix is not creating the maildirs after I create them in postfix admin
[20:31:05] <xorl> hmmm
[20:31:31] <hparker> devdas: cool, that worked.. Thanks!
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[20:37:37] <xorl> ugh, so it's not even creating the user dir.
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[20:37:44] <xorl> so /var/mail/virtual/user@domain dir.
[20:37:54] <xorl> Is postfix admin supposed to create that directory?
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[20:39:04] <hparker> devdas: Will it cause any problems to put all of the helo checks in check_helo?
[20:40:08] <devdas> no
[20:40:26] <hparker> k, thanks
[20:40:52] <hparker> I can see where it may be handy to have them all grouped
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[20:42:16] <penrod> greetings: Is there a troubleshooting guide for the auto responder "vacation" program ?
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[21:02:03] <bpgoldsb> I have a postfix 2.3.8 server using Dovecot's LDA.  This server has user foo and alias bar.  foo is a member of the alias bar.  When I send an email with recipient 'foo' and 'bar', foo's mailbox gets two copies.  Both copies in the mailbox are identical (verified with diff -u file1 file2).  This wasn't the behavior on my older Postfix 2.1.x setup (which used Maildrop).  Anyone know why it might be different?
[21:03:03] <xpoint> see postfix logs
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[21:24:32] <newton> Hi, this is my (working) config, lol its small :p, http://pastie.org/320936 but when i send an email it sends from "username at localhost dot wayhost.eu" how to change that?
[21:28:06] <newton> brb
[21:36:22] <growltiger> !myhostname
[21:36:23] <knoba> growltiger: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.
[21:37:13] <wonderwal> anyone ever had a problem with thunderbird where if you try use tls it bitches that the server doesnt support TLS because its not in the EHLO response, yet it is?
[21:38:04] <wonderwal> i see 250-STARTTLS
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[21:42:35] <wonderwal> Nov 22 03:41:15 saturn postfix/smtpd[42322]: match_list_match: 41.243.118.184: no match
[21:42:40] <wonderwal> what could cause that?
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[21:49:33] <newton> growltiger: that myhostname is for me? but it says: localhost.wayhost.eu while i setted that to "mail.wayhost.eu"
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[21:58:41] <newton> fixed: masquerade_domains = $mydomain
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[22:06:40] <wonderwal> TLS not available due to local problem
[22:06:43] <wonderwal> :(
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[22:11:39] <wonderwal> :)
[22:11:45] <wonderwal> thanks for the help gents
[22:11:57] <newton> no problem?
[22:12:59] <wonderwal> :)
[22:13:15] <wonderwal> so i have smtp working, now i need a pop3 server
[22:13:22] <newton> lol that was pure sarcasm :p
[22:13:48] <wonderwal> sometimes not being helped is inspirational
[22:13:50] <newton> wonderwal: maybe postfix & dovecot :$ thats what i use :p
[22:14:05] <wonderwal> hmm ok
[22:14:25] <newton> i guess u could try it;)
[22:14:34] <wonderwal> thanks im going to
[22:14:37] <wonderwal> can it also do ssl?
[22:14:54] <newton> if i'm right it can, i'll give you a hint
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[22:15:29] <newton> you need this protocols in dovecot.conf (/etc/dovecot.conf) if your on centos: protocols = imap imaps pop3 pop3s
[22:15:47] <newton> i tought it standart only use imap & imaps
[22:15:52] <newton> so yes it uses ssl if you wish to
[22:18:22] <wonderwal> ok thanks
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[22:18:36] <newton> np
[22:19:09] <wonderwal> could i make it read out of the sasldb like ive made postfix?
[22:19:13] <wonderwal> is it possible?
[22:20:05] <newton> (Mysql): u mean with a database behind it?, yes, i dont know alot of sasl(exacly nothing except the name.) so maybe it will, brb i'll google it;)
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[22:21:45] <newton> wonderwal: http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2006-April/012304.html guess thats what your looking for?
[22:21:51] <newton> old post :o
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[22:26:22] <wonderwal> uhh
[22:26:38] <wonderwal> and if i want to use /etc/passwd?
[22:26:59] <newton> normal user accounts on unix? its working here;)
[22:27:20] <newton> but postfix is also configurated for that
[22:27:25] <newton> @ me
[22:29:16] <wonderwal> ah ok
[22:29:19] <wonderwal> guess i must do that
[22:29:24] <wonderwal> and i guess thats where you really need ss
[22:29:25] <wonderwal> l
[22:29:31] <newton> i'm a mailserver noob :P
[22:29:44] <wonderwal> same :P
[22:29:48] <newton> ;)
[22:30:04] <wonderwal> actually i was using qmail.. but doing greylisting seemed really hard
[22:30:23] <newton> just reading the docs and wiki's on centos ;)
[22:30:42] <wonderwal> but it seems quite easy wiht postfix
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[22:31:57] <newton> still i think postfix is hard :p
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[22:33:44] <wonderwal> hmm
[22:33:50] <wonderwal> a little
[22:34:14] <wonderwal> i got it working in 5 hours :P
[22:34:17] <newton> if it runs, its fine with me
[22:34:41] <newton> Lol i had it working in 3 hours.. and then squirrelmail was working against me (another 3 hours.)
[22:34:54] <wonderwal> nice
[22:35:15] <newton> with ubuntu it was apt-get install postfix dovecot squirrelmail roundcube
[22:35:37] <wonderwal> yep and then when something breaks you have no idea what to do
[22:35:39] <newton> and it was setup in less then 5 minutes (well i had to do some config, but that was ready in a minute)
[22:35:46] <newton> indeed
[22:35:48] <wonderwal> because you dont config anything yourself
[22:36:00] <newton> lol thats why i switched :D
[22:36:06] <wonderwal> a.k.a. the whole problem with ubuntu
[22:36:26] <newton> well i'm an ubuntu desktop user, ubuntu is not bad its just "too" easy
[22:39:27] <wonderwal> i only do freebsd+gentoo
[22:39:31] <wonderwal> nothing else makes sense t ome
[22:39:58] <newton> lol:)
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[22:41:41] <wonderwal> you got virtual domains working?
[22:41:52] <newton> nope
[22:41:56] <newton> only got 1 domain:)
[22:42:04] <newton> simplicity :D
[22:42:22] <wonderwal> i need more
[22:42:27] <wonderwal> but that comes last
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[22:55:39] <newton> i'm out, Good luck wonderwal
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[23:56:33] <wonderwal> how could i turn off SMTP auth for non-ssl connections/
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[23:59:36] <brd> wonderwal: http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#server_tls_auth





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