[00:04:10] <zamba> port 587 (submission) looks to be the preferred port for MUA-MTA traffic
[00:05:20] <simoo> I had a feeling that was the case
[00:05:34] <rob0> indeed, and a good idea to require TLS thereupon.
[00:05:47] <zamba> as long as you use authentication, i'd force my clients to use tls
[00:06:09] <zamba> and if they connect over the internet (not one of your local clients) you hopefully use authentication
[00:06:13] <zamba> so there
[00:06:24] <simoo> thanks, what config option do you use to force tls?
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[00:06:58] <simoo> I got a little confused becsue the man said something about internet servers shouldn't force tls
[00:07:00] <zamba> smtpd_tls_security_level
[00:07:06] <simoo> great
[00:07:13] <zamba> if you set that to encrypt, i think
[00:07:19] <simoo> encrypt rather than may
[00:07:38] <zamba> but i'm not sure how that works for the local clients not using authentication
[00:07:44] <zamba> is it a self-signed certificate?
[00:07:48] <simoo> yeah
[00:07:54] <zamba> that might be a problem
[00:08:06] <simoo> really, why?
[00:08:18] <zamba> well.. not security wise, but support wise
[00:08:32] <zamba> since your users will be prompted about the certificate
[00:08:47] <zamba> could cause some confusion, that's all
[00:08:59] <simoo> oh sure, yeah, if that's the only downside I can cope for now
[00:09:13] <simoo> thanks
[00:09:18] <zamba> how many users?
[00:09:42] <simoo> just two at the moment! but it will increase quickly
[00:09:46] <zamba> or rather, how many females aged 30+? ;)
[00:09:47] <zamba> hehe, ok
[00:09:53] <c0rleone> my 'postfix' is correctly installed, I've configured the 'main.cf'  but when I try:  telnet ip 25,  it dont returns the postfix informations... and so I can't send email for all MTAs
[00:09:56] <c0rleone> how can I fix that ?
[00:10:12] <simoo> why females aged 30+?
[00:10:21] <zamba> c0rleone: firewalled?
[00:10:32] <zamba> c0rleone: can you telnet to localhost on the machine running postfix?
[00:10:40] <c0rleone> zamba yes
[00:10:41] <c0rleone> Connected to 216.160.188.X.
[00:10:41] <c0rleone> Escape character is '^]'.
[00:10:46] <c0rleone> but stop there
[00:10:49] <c0rleone> wont show postfix infos
[00:10:52] <zamba> simoo: since they are the users most likely to get confused by stuff like that ;)
[00:10:57] <zamba> c0rleone: localhost, i said
[00:11:05] <zamba> c0rleone: telnet localhost 25
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[00:11:10] <c0rleone> in inet interfaces i set up only ip
[00:11:12] <simoo> zamba: I see :)
[00:11:33] <zamba> c0rleone: check your logs
[00:11:53] <c0rleone> Nov  8 16:13:00 cera postfix/smtpd[5066]: [ID 947731 mail.crit] fatal: open database /etc/mail/aliases.dir: No such file or directory
[00:11:53] <c0rleone> Nov  8 16:13:01 cera postfix/master[5026]: [ID 947731 mail.warning] warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 5066 exit status 1
[00:11:53] <c0rleone> Nov  8 16:13:01 cera postfix/master[5026]: [ID 947731 mail.warning] warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
[00:12:05] <zamba> you're welcome
[00:12:07] <simoo> zamba: doesn't startcom offer signing for free?
[00:12:12] <c0rleone> newaliases maybe?
[00:12:17] <rob0> If a MX requires TLS, it won't get mail from non-TLS sites.
[00:12:17] <zamba> simoo: no idea, actually
[00:12:50] <zamba> simoo: i'd only enable this for port 587, yeah
[00:12:54] <simoo> zamba: check it out, might be useful ... http://www.startcom.org/
[00:12:59] <zamba> simoo: as rob0 states
[00:13:08] <aphexer> Suppose I put smtpd_recipient_restrictions = proxy:mysql:$config_directory/mysql_smtpd_recipient_restrictions.cf in main.cf. For a particular domain I want reject_non_fqdn_recipient and greylisting. Should the mysql query return 2 rows, one for each action? Or should it return one row, containing both actions in one time?
[00:13:13] <simoo> zamba: ok cheers
[00:13:17] <zamba> simoo: interesting
[00:13:18] <aphexer> So will postfix itself traverse all rows mysql returns?
[00:13:40] <zamba> simoo: but i don't think startcom is included in the certificates included with the main distros
[00:14:20] <simoo> zamba: oh, so that would make it no different from self signing?
[00:14:32] <zamba> simoo: don't think so, no
[00:14:48] <simoo> zamba: ok
[00:14:56] <zamba> simoo: the operating system has to have included a certificate that trusts your certificate
[00:15:08] <zamba> simoo: that's the whole model of the pki
[00:15:50] <zamba> simoo: and if safecom pretty much is handing certificates out for free, i don't think it'd be included in the certificates usually shipped
[00:16:04] <simoo> zamba: thanks, I'm still trying to get my head around certs, think I'm almost there!
[00:17:11] <simoo> zamba: I had wanted to use kerberos authentication, as I have a kerberos realm, but that was not so simple either!
[00:17:33] <zamba> simoo: for clients that wants to relay email through you?
[00:17:39] <zamba> simoo: i'm using dovecot for stuff like that
[00:18:19] <simoo> zamba: I haven't installed dovecot yet, wanted to get postfix setup first
[00:19:23] <simoo> zamba: Postfix is what's used to send mail out, I didn't think dovecot could do that
[00:19:54] <zamba> you can use dovecot for authentication
[00:20:05] <simoo> pop before smtp?
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[00:20:33] <rob0> !sasl
[00:20:34] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[00:21:44] <simoo> yeah, cheers I did attempt to get that to work with my kerberos realm but didn't get anywhwere - I will take another look
[00:21:52] <zamba> simoo: you can plug in modules for whatever kind of authentication you want
[00:23:00] <zamba> simoo: like local passwd-files, sql or ldap
[00:23:13] <zamba> simoo: i'm currently using ldap for authentication against AD *shrug*
[00:23:56] <simoo> nice, I will def. be looking in to that in the future
[00:24:48] <zamba> one of my next projects is swapping dovecot-imap for courier, but i haven't gotten around to that yet
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[00:25:44] <simoo> the docs say that a 'publicly referenced server' should not use 'smtpd_tls_security_level = encrypt' what does it mean by a publicly-referenced SMTP server?
[00:27:09] <shasta> a server being pointed to by some MX record for some domain accessible from the internet
[00:27:10] <zamba> i guess that means that the rest of the internet is meant to be able to connect to it to send mail
[00:27:22] <zamba> yeah, shasta put that better than me :)
[00:29:35] <simoo> right but in that case my server is publicly referenced so is it ok to use 'encrypt'?
[00:29:50] <shasta> "is" or "isn't"?
[00:29:53] <zamba> isn't
[00:30:11] <zamba> the ideal would be to require it for external clients over port 587
[00:30:17] <zamba> but i'm not sure if that's possible
[00:30:38] <shasta> what are you trying to do, simoo?
[00:30:45] <shasta> (didn't follow the conversation, sorry)
[00:31:38] <simoo> mobile smtp server for a select number of clients using smtp-auth but not letting the password go in clear text (so using tls)
[00:32:01] <simoo> *so forcing tls
[00:32:04] <shasta> "mobile smtp server"?
[00:32:08] <shasta> it's going to move? ;)
[00:32:12] <simoo> haha
[00:32:26] <shasta> anyway
[00:32:41] <simoo> no I mean the clients can be mobile, no static ip address  stuff
[00:32:46] <shasta> !smtpd_tls_auth_only
[00:32:47] <knoba> shasta: "smtpd_tls_auth_only" : When TLS encryption is optional in the Postfix SMTP server, do not announce or accept SASL authentication over unencrypted connections.
[00:32:59] <shasta> voila
[00:33:01] <shasta> ;-)
[00:33:22] <shasta> this should help you, test it
[00:33:37] <simoo> thanks a lot
[00:34:59] <simoo> I just got the impression from the docs that I shouldn't use that on a pubicly referenced server. But they mean a server that is going to be used publicly I suppose
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[00:35:42] <shasta> well, if your clients will use it to send mail to the internet... this might be true
[00:36:00] <shasta> (unless you've got separate out/in servers)
[00:36:07] <simoo> they will, why will that cause a problem?
[00:36:46] <shasta> then you must not use smtpd_tls_security_level = encrypt
[00:37:12] <shasta> because you can't force every smtp server on the internet to talk TLS to you
[00:37:17] <shasta> that's pretty obvious
[00:37:27] <sahil> like, totally.
[00:38:03] <simoo> but I just want to force the clients connecting with thier email clients to talk to my server with tls
[00:38:13] <shasta> sheesh :)
[00:38:30] <simoo> sorry am I being dumb
[00:40:05] <shasta> use smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes and don't allow to relay without authenticating
[00:40:53] <simoo> right ok, thanks :) - I'll do a bit more reading too!
[00:41:23] <shasta> you'd better!
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[00:42:46] <sahil> yeah, and do a bit of general IQ enhancement.
[00:43:07] <simoo> hey! it's late...
[00:43:13] <sahil> evidently.
[00:43:57] <simoo> ... must remember to do my nintendo brain training tomorrow...
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[01:25:28] <vivia> Sorry for the OT: I am logged in on a machine's KDE but I forgot to log off when leaving. Does anyone know how I can log off remotely while keeping the X server up?
[01:25:56] <thumbs> vivia: kill your session from ssh
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[01:27:37] <mmcji> howdee
[01:28:26] <mmcji> do i need both port 25 and port 110 open for inbound traffic through my router to my mail server?
[01:28:30] <vivia> thumbs: thx - just didn't know what exactly to kill from all that mess. Tried a few pid's by chance and one of them did the trick :)
[01:28:49] <vivia> mmcji: port 110 is only useful for pop3 - users downloading their mail onto their mailbox
[01:29:21] <thumbs> vivia: your shell is usually a good start
[01:29:51] <vivia> thumbs: I could only see the shell I was logged on from, and another one belonging to the xterm I remember I was running :(
[01:31:00] <mmcji> I primarily want to be able to send users a login and password and have them send a message to me.  I have postfix and dovecot installed and am just being to learn about this stuff.
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[01:32:41] <vivia> mmcji: I can't understand exactly what you want, sorry. Is this a mail server for local use only, that will not exchange emails with the rest of the internet?
[01:35:03] <vivia> mmcji: in a few words, your users will need port 25 to send email and port 110 to read email. Postfix deals with the sending part - 25 only.
[01:37:35] <mmcji> my objective is to have a family member come to my site, register and have my mail server send them their passwords after registering.  then i want to give them an e-mail account that they can use to send and receive mail with.  I am in Texas and my Dad is in Indiana.
[01:37:48] <mmcji> so the mail server is in texas
[01:38:37] <mmcji> I am not blocking any outbound traffic from my internal lan
[01:39:04] <mmcji> but I only have port 80 443 and 8080 open for inbound traffic on my router at this time
[01:39:25] <mmcji> inbound traffic being a wan request to access my lan
[01:40:49] <vivia> You need port 25 open, unless 1) you use webmail 2) you only use that address to send messages to each other and not to anyone else
[01:41:05] <vivia> You also need port 110 open, unless you use webmail
[01:42:41] <mmcji> is that what squirlmail is, a webmail client remote users can access to retrieve their mail?
[01:43:59] <mmcji> I have been in it support for years, but i have never done anything with mail before.  our company has that controlled in a different support group, so odd as it is, the first time i am learning about this stuff is when I try to set it up at home
[01:44:05] <mmcji> it's cool
[01:44:32] <mmcji> i was reading about open relays and the problems they cause yesterday
[01:45:14] <vivia> Yes, you can use squirrelmail for webmail. :)
[01:45:32] <mmcji> vivia:  Thank you
[01:46:35] <vivia> np.:)
[01:51:17] <mmcji> ooo, do i need udp, tcp or both for ports 25 and 110?
[01:52:03] <mmcji> for example for port 53 on am only allowing udp packets through my network to my dns server
[01:52:15] <mmcji> setting up DNS was last weeks project :-)
[01:54:53] <adaptr> mmcji: I suggest you start by reading the appropriate RFCs to acquaint yourself with the subject matter
[01:55:27] <mmcji> :-) yeah i am reading now....thanks
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[04:10:37] <outofrange1> I want Postfix smtp (client) to use a relayhost that has a self-signed cert.  Is "smtp_tls_security_level = fingerprint" the only approach?  If so, how do I create the fingerprint of the relayhost's cert?
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[05:36:48] <jordancason> hey guys if i force postfix to run smtp through a different port say 8888 should every ting still work correctly?
[05:37:26] <xpoint> 42
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[06:30:58] <xpeed> sombody knows the policy to reject mail messages from MTAs on IP's that do not match with the original domain IP ?
[06:31:11] <xpeed> on postfix of course
[06:34:18] <growltiger_> !reject_invalid_hostname
[06:34:19] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "reject_invalid_hostname" is not a valid command.
[06:40:28] <xpeed> thx
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[08:19:04] <unomystEz> hi all
[08:19:32] <unomystEz> I'm using virtual mailboxes and the cur, tmp directories are going under /home/vmail/<domain>/<user>/ directly
[08:19:42] <unomystEz> however, I prefer to use /home/vmail/<domain>/<user>/Maildir
[08:19:48] <unomystEz> not quite sure where I can configure that
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[08:21:14] <xpeed> just change the user mailbox dir
[08:21:18] <xpeed> in bd
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[08:36:38] <unomystEz> bd?
[08:36:49] <unomystEz> I switched the LDA to dovecot
[08:36:57] <unomystEz> but it seems that dovecot is having trouble creating the user
[08:37:01] <unomystEz> (it's a new mailbox)
[08:37:51] <unomystEz> what is bd?
[08:38:08] <unomystEz> i thought I had to run a special command to concatenate Maildir to the mailbox directly from the database
[08:43:34] <unomystEz> ah got it working =)
[08:43:38] <unomystEz> im using dovecot as the LDA
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[12:46:04] <toxygen> hello
[12:46:46] <plee_> good day
[12:46:55] <toxygen> i would like to ask how to make postfix to add reply-to item with address to every mail, which comes to certain address? e.g. we have a small "mailing list", so all messages which come to certain address are forwarded to all members
[12:49:55] <plee_> I'm not much help at that matter, but here are people how most likely knows, and they will most likely answer when they see the question. :)
[12:50:28] <xmb> aye
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[13:02:28] <cite> toxygen: Add a check_recipient_access in smtpd_recipient_restrictions. As result value in the table, use "PREPEND Reply-To: some@dress
[13:02:52] <cite> toxygen: Read the docs on smtpd_recipient_restrictions, check_recipient_access, man 5 access and so on if you don't know exactly how to do that.
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[13:13:29] <toxygen> cite: thanks
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[15:16:05] <aichains> mornin guys, is there a way to relay incoming mail for a certain domain to a specific other server ?
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[15:39:34] <mod_cure> I setup postifx on my linux box. how can i send email ? what should i set the myhostname & mydomain name to? i do not have a domain name, i just want to see emails to my email account i have at my local isp
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[15:53:57] <kippix> <kippix> Hello tous le monde
[15:53:57] <kippix> <kippix> du monde pour m'aider sur un probleme d'aliases avec postfix
[15:53:57] <kippix> <kippix> ?
[15:55:56] <plee_> english please
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[15:58:24] <kippix> ok i'll try to speak english
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[15:58:57] <rob0> what is the problem? Local aliases(5) or virtual(5) aliases?
[15:59:38] <rob0> aichains, transport(5)
[15:59:43] <kippix> so i have make a new postfix server, and my aliases root : mymail at tot dot fr doesn(t work
[16:00:59] <rob0> I think "root :" should be "root:", for one thing.
[16:01:38] <kippix> postfix work with local aliases
[16:01:51] <kippix> yes root: ok
[16:01:56] <kippix> so
[16:02:39] <kippix> i have make that
[16:02:45] <kippix> echo "root : mon at mail dot com" >> /etc/aliases
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[16:03:07] <rob0> um, there's that space again
[16:03:36] <kippix> nono espace is ok i miss when i copie this ligne here
[16:03:50] <kippix> after
[16:03:52] <kippix> postaliases /etc/aliases
[16:03:57] <kippix> /etc/init.d/postfix reload
[16:03:59] <rob0> and you run newaliases(1), and you looked in your LOGS
[16:04:04] <kippix> yes
[16:04:11] <rob0> (after sending to the alias)
[16:04:16] <kippix> when i execute
[16:04:23] <kippix> echo test | mail -s coucou root
[16:04:29] <kippix> postfix/smtp[26987]: 8F1DE84D57: to=<root at mondomaine dot fr>, orig_to=<root>, relay=mx3.ipnergie.net[129.35.160.141]:25, delay=5.3, delays=5/0.0 1/0.23/0.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as C49D55741CB
[16:04:51] <rob0> relay=mx3.ipnergie.net[129.35.160.141] accepted that
[16:04:56] <kippix> but i don't have the "mondomain.fr" at this time
[16:05:06] <rob0> mx3.ipnergie.net does
[16:05:38] <kippix> yes because  this domain is host by ipergie
[16:05:46] <kippix> for the moment
[16:06:15] <kippix> so i want redirect root  to mail personnal adresse
[16:06:39] <kippix> in my main.cf i have :
[16:06:45] <kippix> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
[16:06:49] <kippix> mydomain = mondommaine.fr
[16:06:50] <rob0> !basic
[16:06:51] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[16:06:55] <kippix> myhostname = debian.mondomaine.fr
[16:06:57] <rob0> !standard
[16:06:58] <knoba> rob0: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[16:07:00] <kippix> yorigin = $mydomain
[16:07:12] <rob0> I'm not sure if there are French translations of those.
[16:07:49] <rob0> Mouss, on the postfix-users mailing list, is French, and often very helpful.
[16:08:22] <rob0> (just don't top-post list replies :) )
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[16:48:03] <unomystEz> hey all
[16:48:48] <unomystEz> I need to move mailservers, I have the mail directories under /home/vmail using the Maildir format   so it's   /home/vmail/%d/%u/Maildir  with cur, tmp, etc.. inside
[16:48:56] <unomystEz> I hope to use rsync to accomplish this
[16:49:34] <unomystEz> anyone have experience with this?
[16:49:37] <unomystEz> is rsync a good solution for it?
[16:50:36] <Signum> unomystEz: does rsync remove files? in case the user removed a mail? otherwise consider using "unison"
[16:50:59] <unomystEz> Signum: I'm checking the man page now, that's what I was worried about
[16:51:09] <unomystEz> I'm never done a mail server cut-over before
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[16:51:36] <Signum> unomystEz: would of course be easiest to shut down the service during the move
[16:51:53] <unomystEz> sorry, shut down the service?
[16:52:15] <unomystEz> I'm thinking that changing the MX records would be the easiest way
[16:52:24] <unomystEz> but rsync is dangerous
[16:52:43] <unomystEz> and of course, there is 4.5GB of mails to move and the bandwidth is only 30K/sec
[16:57:01] <outofrange1> I'm trying to use relayhost with security level fingerprint because the relayhost has a self-signed cert.  I created a md5 fingerprint with openssl x509 -noout -fingerprint < exim.crt on the relayhost and then set main.cf per http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#client_tls_fprint.  But still get cert verification failure.
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[17:02:00] <rob0> rysnc(1) can remove files if you want
[17:02:41] <outofrange1> I also have stmp_tls_loglevel = 4, but not not seeing any additional logging (and I am issuing a reload after config changes).
[17:02:53] <rob0> stmp?
[17:03:28] <outofrange1> Oh.
[17:03:57] * outofrange1 has more coffee
[17:06:06] <outofrange1> Ok, so finger prints match.  So it's something else.  Oh "No worthy mechs found"
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[17:16:39] <rob0> That's a SASL problem.
[17:16:42] <rob0> !sasl
[17:16:42] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[17:16:54] <rob0> !client_auth
[17:16:55] <knoba> rob0: Error: "client_auth" is not a valid command.
[17:17:00] <rob0> !client_sasl
[17:17:01] <knoba> rob0: Error: "client_sasl" is not a valid command.
[17:17:13] <rob0> !relayhost
[17:17:14] <knoba> rob0: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid.
[17:17:26] <rob0> !saslclient
[17:17:26] <knoba> rob0: "saslclient" : See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl when you need client-side SASL authentication to deliver mail to another server
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[17:21:13] <outofrange1> Right, had "smtp_sasl_security_options =" which was disabling plain text auth, I guess.  I set it to "smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous" and now is working.
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[18:20:51] <mikedub> soo.. I'm setting up a new server and I've encountered this. I imagine it's something silly..
[18:20:54] <mikedub> http://pastie.org/310826
[18:20:55] <mikedub> any ideas?
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[18:28:58] <rob0> Host mail.cdslash.net[69.90.0.18] didn't like the way your Postfix said HELO/EHLO.
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[18:37:09] <unomystEz> is there anything I can use to forward mails only rather than setting up postfix and configuring it to do so?
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[18:40:20] <mrglinux> hi my postfix service stoped sometimes on my server but I don't know why here is my some log means mail.log http://phpfi.com/375907
[18:40:40] <mrglinux> how can I found what is my server problem ?
[18:42:26] <rob0> uno, this channel is about Postfix, but sure, there are alternatives.
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[18:42:45] <rob0> !tls
[18:42:45] <knoba> rob0: "tls" : short for "Transport Layer Security" (RFC2246). It adds an additional layer of encryption to protocols like SMTP, POP3 or IMAP to improve security during transmission over the internet. You can find HOWTOs on that topic on http://www.postfix.org/docs.html
[18:42:55] <rob0> !tls_readme
[18:42:55] <knoba> rob0: "tls_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html : Transport Layer Security (TLS/SSL) features in Postfix
[18:42:59] <mikedub> rob0: what is a likely cause?
[18:43:04] <mrglinux> but I don't think so my problem refer to tls
[18:43:21] <mrglinux> because I don't use it
[18:43:43] <mikedub> or is there a simple way to capture what i am sending for a helo
[18:44:01] <rob0> mrg, apparently your configuration disagrees with you.
[18:44:21] <rob0> !basic
[18:44:21] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[18:44:24] <rob0> mike ^^
[18:44:29] <rob0> !myhostname
[18:44:29] <knoba> rob0: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.
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[18:45:06] <mrglinux> if my postfix be run I could see in process list ? ps -e ?
[18:45:14] <rob0> Just READ THE REJECTION to see what HELO you sent.
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[20:09:07] <scheffe> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/index.shtml.de :-)
[20:09:14] <scheffe> thanks Signum
[20:09:16] <scheffe> :-)
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[20:22:28] <Signum> scheffe: you're welcome :)
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[20:23:14] <Signum> scheffe: although Debian is currently on Etch. And soon on Lenny. So the Sarge tutorial is a tad outdated.
[20:24:18] <scheffe> well i tr it with gentoo :-) is nice for understanding things
[20:24:23] <scheffe> +y
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[20:28:19] <xmb> go stble+ testing+ unstable+ experimental
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[20:56:36] <Criggie> Hi all - can I make postfix use a different DNS resolver to the system's DNS servers in   /etc/resolv.conf  ?
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[20:58:55] <Signum> Criggie: if you run in a chroot environment then you can use the etc/resolv.conf in that directory. but I wouldn't recommend it.
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[21:10:42] <Criggie> Signum: right - thanks.  I'm using OpenDNS on the box, and non-existant domains are resolving to the opendns server, mail is queueing for 5 days then being returned
[21:10:52] <Criggie> the end user missed a tender close date because of that.
[21:11:29] <Signum> non-existing domains resolve? who was having a fever dream there? :)
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[21:13:14] <jra> it's like verisign with good pr, or so
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[21:28:59] <jpalmer> anyone here familiar with ecartis?
[21:29:20] <growltiger_> what is ecartis?
[21:29:29] <jpalmer> I have it installed,  but it's sending emails as ecartis at localhost dot mydomain.com  rather than ecartis at lists dot mydomain.com
[21:29:42] <jpalmer> growltiger_: your answer would be "no" :)
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[21:51:35] <manlymat_83> Anyone have a good tutorial on getting SMTP auth working with postfix?  I had it working with postfix and saslpasswd where eveyone would just use a single username/password (shared) that I would create with the saslpasswd command, but for some reason freebsd stopped offering sasl in the ports and now they just offer sasl2, which isn't working as a direct substitute.
[21:51:45] <manlymat_83> What's the easiest way to get SMTP auth working with a single shared username/password?
[21:51:47] <growltiger_> !sasl
[21:51:47] <knoba> growltiger_: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
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[21:52:46] <growltiger_> you will probably need to recompile postfix
[21:52:58] <rob0> Single shared password, that's new to me.
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[21:53:28] <manlymat_83> rob0: onlt about 10 users
[21:53:34] <manlymat_83> and its deprecated practice from the previous owner
[21:53:47] <manlymat_83> not ideal I know, but I need to get it working first then work on changing it
[21:53:56] <growltiger_> when you type make in /usr/ports/postfix-latest, it should give you a menu to choose sasl2
[21:54:24] <rob0> Ironically, it will be easier to get it working the right way.
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[21:56:08] <growltiger_> sona, did you upgrade cyrus sasl and not postfix or what?
[21:56:17] <growltiger_> so,, rather
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[22:27:54] <edman007|work> hi, has anyone used dkimproxy? is it possible to make it select a keyfile based on the domain? basically i need it to sign for domains=a,b,c with the key /path/key/${SELECTOR}.${DOMAIN}.priv where selector is the selector set in the config and domain is one of the domains in the domain list
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[23:02:00] <cafuego> edman007|work: that's what dkim-filter does by default; you can give it a list of domains and associated keys.
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[23:07:47] <edman007|work> cafuego, how?
[23:09:22] <edman007|work> cafuego, from what i see i can specify multiple domains, but only one key
[23:09:45] <edman007|work> i want one key per domain, each key is different
[23:10:18] <cafuego> adaptr_: Yes, you can indeed specify one key per domain
[23:10:56] <cafuego> adaptr_: You use the KeyList directive to point it at a file that lists them
[23:11:15] <edman007|work> alright, thanks, i'll look that up
[23:11:39] <cafuego> adaptr_: The fomat in the list is address glob:domain:file
[23:11:55] <cafuego> ie: * at domain dot com:domain.com:/path/to/domain.com/selector
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[23:12:32] <cafuego> at least, that's how mine it set up and gmail seems to think it works ;-)
[23:12:37] <edman007|work> what was that format? i got disconnected...
[23:12:42] <cafuego> adaptr_: The fomat in the list is address glob:domain:file
[23:12:44] <cafuego> ie: * at domain dot com:domain.com:/path/to/domain.com/selector
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[23:13:11] <cafuego> adaptr_: sorry, not enough coffee, missed the bad tab completion.
[23:13:47] <edman007|work> ohhh, i see, thats a different dkim thing, does dkim-milter work with postfix?
[23:13:53] <cafuego> yup
[23:14:03] <cafuego> that's how i use it
[23:14:29] <edman007|work> alright, thanks, i'll try using that
[23:14:36] <cafuego> it runs on a different VM actually and postfix speaks to it via network
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[23:27:07] <manlymat_83> OK, this is weird.  I keep getting an error in my maillog "warning: SASL authentication failure: no user in db" even though via smtp I'm getting "authentication successful" and "authentication failed" if I give good/bad passwords.
[23:27:14] <manlymat_83> But the problem is the smtp auth isn't working.  Any ideas?
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[23:30:11] <adaptr> I dunno who said what to me earlier, but I got bounced off freenode about 5 times and then irssi decided to fuck up
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[23:55:41] <c0rleone> is possible install postfix on sunos by package?
[23:56:34] <growltiger_> maybe
[23:57:33] <c0rleone> how?





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