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[00:01:04] <dam85> hello everybody
[00:02:02] <dam85> with a "basic" postfix config is possibile to send emails to hotmail account? i can sent/receive messages....but when i send to a hotmail account the email will go to SPAM directory...what could i do?
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[00:04:54] <dam85> ??
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[00:07:19] <xpoint> dam85, whitelist sender ip at hotmail
[00:08:15] <dam85> have i to send my ip to hotmail??
[00:12:18] <dam85> xpoint: ?
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[00:16:19] <seekwill> dam85: http://postmaster.hotmail.com
[00:18:16] <seekwill> Look at the time...
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[01:07:46] <kar> Hi all, I'm new to the channel. I'm looking for some finishing-touch help to get emails from localhost sent to a friendly email client via POP3. I'm stuck at configuring the POP3 account. What's the email name, localhost? That fails email format edits.
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[01:09:05] <growltiger> postfix is not a pop3 server
[01:09:16] <growltiger> you probably have cyrus or dovecot for that
[01:10:11] <kar> guess I'm in the wrong place ;-)     Any ideas? I'm trying to get MacOSX to send my localhost emails to Thunderbird. I've got it sending mails to my terminal mail program
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[01:19:32] <kar> are emails from localhost sent to something@localhost? localhost@something?
[01:26:00] <growltiger> user@host
[01:30:45] <kar> thanks. How do you get that into a client? I get "Please enter a valid email address"
[01:31:45] <growltiger> user@localhost is valid
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[01:34:14] <kar> Gmail doesn't know that, wants ".com"
[01:34:54] <growltiger> i though you wanted osx to send local emails to thunderbird
[01:35:04] <growltiger> what does gmail have to do with this?
[01:39:49] <xpoint> growltiger, see smtpd_generic_maps
[01:40:30] <xpoint> user@localhost is valid on localhost does not mean gmail should accept mail from localhost :)
[01:41:24] <xpoint> so map: user@localhost user at gmail dot com in smtpd_generic_maps, postmap it and done :)
[01:42:14] <xpoint> oh sorry if it was kar that asked
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[01:45:02] <kar> I'm using gmail to set up an external pop3 account. I got farther with thunderbird. Will try your next tips, thanks a lot
[01:50:17] <kar> xpoint, growltiger, thanks for your patience. I'm not really a sysadmin, I'm just trying :-).  I found this post excellent, I'm up to the point of configuring Thunderbird, and I don't know what the smtp settings should be. I don't really know what smpt_generic_maps is yet...
[01:50:29] <kar> http://traumwind.de/tindertraum/archives/local_mail_osx.html?js=yes   this is the post
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[01:56:02] <gbolte> hello all
[01:56:58] <gbolte> do any of you know how to setup postfix so that it uses ssl to authenticate users only and will not accept non ssl connections
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[02:04:09] <gbolte> :/
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[02:40:54] <gbolte> alright I figured out how to make postfix not allow non tls encrypted sessions, however now I need to make it so that it dose not allow non-encrypted sessions from all but localhost
[02:40:56] <gbolte> :/
[02:41:09] <gbolte> but for some reason I doubt that is possible
[02:42:36] <gbolte> anyone have any insight?
[02:48:25] <shasta> erm
[02:48:51] <gbolte> hi shasta
[02:48:52] <gbolte> :)
[02:49:28] <shasta> let me get this straight
[02:49:45] <shasta> you want to only accept tls-encrypted connections?
[02:49:57] <shasta> is this a public MX?
[02:50:25] <gbolte> well only accept auth for tls connections
[02:50:38] <gbolte> so clients need to use tls to send mail
[02:50:53] <gbolte> with the exception of localhost
[02:51:24] <gbolte> people sending mail to us dont need tls
[02:51:33] <shasta> !smtpd_tls_auth_only
[02:51:34] <knoba> shasta: "smtpd_tls_auth_only" : When TLS encryption is optional in the Postfix SMTP server, do not announce or accept SASL authentication over unencrypted connections.
[02:52:04] <gbolte> right but the problem is there I need the exception of localhost
[02:52:47] <gbolte> because our webmail client dose not do tls to the smtp server which is no problem because its on the same box
[02:52:52] <shasta> it is quite common setup to put localhost into mynetworks (and permit_mynetworks in smtpd_recipient_restrictions)
[02:53:21] <gbolte> hmm I see
[02:53:40] <shasta> then, of course, you can send mail without authenticating from localhost
[02:54:08] <gbolte> hmm well we still want auth just not encryption
[02:54:11] <gbolte> :/
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[04:18:07] <jmazaredo> can i change the smtp to port 587 of postfix?
[04:18:46] <hparker> Look for submission in master.cf
[04:21:22] <jmazaredo> #submission inet n - - - - smtpd     this one?
[04:22:39] <jmazaredo> i just uncomment it?
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[04:23:24] <hparker> and reload postfix
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[04:24:19] <jmazaredo> it will send mail that is in queue?
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[04:25:56] <jmazaredo> or am i wrong. my isp is blocking port 25 can i use 587 to talk to other servers?
[04:26:06] <jmazaredo> instead of 25
[04:27:00] <hparker> not usually, submission allows people to submit mail to your server from their MUAs when they can't on 25
[04:27:43] <jmazaredo> so from my server then to yahoo/gmail/hotmail server it is still port 25
[04:27:52] <jmazaredo> nomore no less
[04:28:08] <jmazaredo> server to server = 25
[04:30:11] <hparker> anything other than 25 usually requires authentication so you can relay through it... If ISP blocks outbound 25 you can either relay through them or get a VPS or something
[04:31:31] <jmazaredo> thanks
[04:32:00] <hparker> Or a business class connection so it's not blocked
[04:32:15] <hparker> VPS might be a cheaper alternative
[04:32:26] <hparker> Depends on the ISP you have
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[07:59:27] <justdave> So I have a mail server that serves as the MX for a whole mess of domains.  I have one domain that is going to begin using one of those spam-checking external MX services.
[07:59:50] <justdave> is there a way I can block inbound mail for that domain that doesn't come from the external MX service without blocking mail for the other domains it serves?
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[08:15:53] <cite> Good morning.
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[11:07:24] <cedric33> hi all i have a question i use one server postfix on my compagny it work but it very long i see on postqueue i have 80 mails  i don't know if my configuration is very good
[11:08:21] <cedric33> i have on master.conf smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       200       smtpd
[11:08:53] <cedric33> thanks for your help
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[11:12:26] <dragonheart> cedric33: is the queue containing mainly incoming or outgoing email?
[11:13:49] <cedric33> i don't know hwo i can see that
[11:14:55] <cedric33> dragonheart : i use this  command : postqueue -p |grep "*" |wc -l  122
[11:15:01] <cedric33> i have  122 mails
[11:15:34] <dragonheart> look at a sample of the postqueue -p output
[11:16:16] <cedric33> dragonheart : i have this result 15861 Kbytes in 306 Requests.
[11:16:58] <dragonheart> are you going to answer the question I asked?
[11:17:03] <Roobarb> cedric33: can you pastebin a sample of "postqueue -p" output ?
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[11:19:28] <cite> Oh my.
[11:19:54] <cite> dragonheart, cedric33: Bottleneck anaylsis is described in: http://www.postfix.org/QSHAPE_README.html
[11:20:12] <cite> dragonheart, cedric33: The "right tool" is qshape, not some arbitrary shell code (well, at least to get a first impression)
[11:20:14] <cedric33> Roobarb : i have on master.Con  smtp-amavis     unix    -       -       n       -       10      lmtp and  smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       200       smtpd is it a good config ?
[11:20:52] <Roobarb> cedric33: please answer my question
[11:20:58] <dragonheart> I was assuming that it is possible that a lot of email in a queue could be in the outgoing queue and therefore any rectification isn't really needed
[11:21:32] <cedric33> Roobarb : sorry ok
[11:25:38] <cedric33> Roobarb: http://pastebin.ca/1246704 thanks for your help
[11:26:00] <cedric33> i want to modify  this line smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       200       smtpd
[11:26:14] <cedric33> i want to modify 200 to 400 no it's not a good idea?
[11:26:39] <Roobarb> do you even know what that does?
[11:27:17] <cedric33> no it's the process to manage mail
[11:27:22] <cedric33> no ?
[11:27:38] <cedric33> and modify this smtp-amavis     unix    -       -       n       -       10      lmtp
[11:27:51] <Roobarb> ok, back to your mail queue, its full of MAILER-DAEMON messages, which means you're a backscatter source
[11:28:04] <cedric33> because i think i have cpu and memory i can increase the process no ?
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[11:28:38] <cedric33> i d(ont know wath is backscatter source i search on google :)
[11:28:38] <Roobarb> cedric33: read this and do what it says:  http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
[11:29:26] <cedric33> Roobarb : very thanks you think spammer use my serveur postfix
[11:29:35] <Roobarb> under most circumstances, you should have no requirement to change anything in master.cf
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[11:31:12] <cedric33> Roobarb : now i have when i type postqueue -p |wc -l i have 1561 mails
[11:31:42] <cedric33> it's very hard
[11:32:28] <Roobarb> and if you actually read the output of postqueue, you'll see they're all failing in some way or another for reasons you have no control over
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[11:34:29] <cedric33> Roobarb : if i use postqueue -p |grep "*" |wc -l  i make a grep "*" this only mail who have no problem no ?
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[11:34:58] <Roobarb> you cannot guaranteee that
[11:35:43] <cedric33> Roobarb : i read your url web site to see if my problem is BACKSCATTER but ithis my memory is not important
[11:36:26] <cedric33> MemFree:          7556 kB
[11:36:30] <cedric33> not very good :)
[11:36:42] <Roobarb> cedric33: people are sending messages to random addresses at your domain, with forged From addresses, knowing they'll bounce back to the forged From.
[11:36:57] <Roobarb> a message in the postfix queue doesn't consume any ram
[11:37:06] <Roobarb> unless its activly being processed
[11:37:38] <Roobarb> you can mitigate this by implementing recipient validation
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[11:39:38] <Roobarb> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:/path/to/list-of-valid-users
[11:42:16] <cedric33> Roobarb : on postfix config file i have http://pastebin.com/m69e39ea8
[11:43:03] <cedric33> on the file i have /^.*@.*.pros$/    550 : Host or domain name not found.
[11:44:10] <Roobarb> that doesn't describe a lise of VALID users.
[11:44:13] <Roobarb> *list
[11:44:35] <cedric33> yes
[11:44:39] <cedric33> ok  i understand
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[11:46:41] <cedric33> Roobarb : very thanks for your help
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[12:19:02] <IcyPolecat> hiya, anyone know if it is possible to dynamically control the transports used by postfix via lib milter (e.g. I want to be able to pass some mail through an Amavis instance with AV and SA and others through a seperate instance with just SA)? Thanks
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[12:27:12] <Roobarb> IcyPolecat: you mean you want to bypass certain checks for certain addresses?
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[12:32:18] <buc0vat> is there any command or so to clear queue?
[12:32:19] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: actually I want to do it per domain (multi domain relay - some have AV and SA others just have SA)
[12:33:01] <Roobarb> IcyPolecat: I can't think of a good reason to bypass Anti-Virus, but either way, look for the virus_lovers_maps setting in amavisd.conf
[12:33:55] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: ok - so it's can be done at the amavis level - brilliant. Oh and the main reason to bypass AV is that some of the domains end point MTAs run exactly the same AV as us - no point in wasting resources on the relay if not needed!
[12:34:20] <Roobarb> IcyPolecat: assuming they keep their signatures up to date
[12:34:46] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: true - but it's their call not ours. They decide not to use our AV so ...
[12:34:53] <Roobarb> cpu is cheap and the delys is only in the order of seconds, so it's a worty thign to do imho
[12:35:51] <IcyPolecat> CPU ceases to be cheap when you're running a couple of 100 thou mails an hour through it but I personally agree - belt and braces. However, the powers that be are not convinced
[12:36:27] <Roobarb> thinking about this, I think the virus_lovers_maps don't work the way you want
[12:36:49] <Roobarb> messages get scanned regardless, but that map says whether to forward infectd mail onwards
[12:37:36] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: I didn't think there was a way to do it. Hence wanted to run 2 instances of amavis and just switch the transports on and off as needed
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[12:39:01] <Roobarb> @bypass_virus_checks_maps
[12:39:05] <Roobarb> thats what you want
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[12:39:32] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: ah ok
[12:39:33] <Roobarb> @bypass_virus_checks_maps = ( ["example.com"] );
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[12:42:02] <IcyPolecat> Roobarb: thanks - that should do what we need.
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[13:26:29] <xmb_> canvirtual hashes do regex or shell lilke globbing ?
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[14:04:22] <vykarian> Hi guys! Is there a way to postfix+virtualdomain works with .forward on user "home"? (i.e. /home/vmail/domain.example/user at domain dot example/.forward)
[14:06:51] <sysmonk> in a very extreeme situation where you have nss set up to have system users with that kind of homedir and using postfix with local(8) delivery agent that can be achieved....
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[14:08:12] <arj> can anyone tell me a tutorial or website (i don't know the correct keywords)
[14:08:14] <arj> for
[14:08:33] <arj> content filtering for emails, such that emails are delivered into specific imap folders?
[14:08:45] <arj> i tried google: postfix content filter imap folders
[14:12:41] <arj> anyone? :)
[14:15:01] <rob0> vy, it works with virtual alias domains, with addresses going to Unix users.
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[14:16:18] <sysmonk> rob0: i was looking at the /home/vmail/domain/user@domain/ stuff
[14:16:24] <rob0> arj, no tutorial, but I have done it with amavisd-new, appending +spam to the username, and ~/.forward+spam files.
[14:16:33] <vykarian> should I create a local user for each vuser@vdomain that I pretend to run with .forward ?
[14:16:37] <sysmonk> that can be achieved with system users having that custom homedir
[14:16:46] <vykarian> hmm
[14:16:53] <vykarian> yeah, make sense..
[14:16:56] <arj> rob0: so how did you do that?
[14:17:02] <sysmonk> vykarian: why do you need to have the .forward at all?
[14:17:17] <vykarian> run ask (http://a-s-k.sourceforge.net)
[14:17:23] <arj> ah ok now I got that, that is npt what i want
[14:17:36] <vykarian> I ran qmail until last week..
[14:18:00] <rob0> arj, recipient_delimiter on the Postfix side, and I just read through the amavisd config file.
[14:18:02] <Roobarb> qmail = fail
[14:18:35] <vykarian> btw, if somebody can give me some suggestion about a similar program that do what ask does I would be glad..
[14:19:35] <rob0> Oh my, that's another C/R fiasco. Do not use that.
[14:19:57] <rob0> Google "challenge response spam" for information.
[14:20:13] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[14:20:14] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[14:20:32] <rob0> ^^ honest and safe way to block tons of spam
[14:20:36] <rob0> !zen
[14:20:37] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL
[14:22:11] * Roobarb uses zen, sorbs and few reject_mumble checks in smtpd_recipient_restrictions, and the mailgraphs speak for themselves
[14:22:56] <rob0> reject_non_fwdn_helo_hostname will take out ~25% of all connections easily.
[14:23:04] <Roobarb> last month, we recieved 48k messages, and rejected 900k
[14:23:09] <Roobarb> rob0: yup
[14:23:37] <rob0> *reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname
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[17:53:22] <mutex> what exactly does this mean: "Relay access denied; from=<>"
[17:53:27] <mutex> why is my from resolver empty
[17:53:43] <growltiger> !access_denied
[17:53:43] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "access_denied" is not a valid command.
[17:53:56] <growltiger> !relay_access_denied
[17:53:57] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "relay_access_denied" is not a valid command.
[17:54:02] <Dominian> !relay
[17:54:03] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "relay" is not a valid command.
[17:54:05] <Dominian> bah
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[17:54:09] <growltiger> !access denied
[17:54:10] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "access" is not a valid command.
[17:54:21] <growltiger> this is not a very user friendly bot
[17:54:30] <growltiger> !denied
[17:54:30] <googlah> !relaying
[17:54:31] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "denied" is not a valid command.
[17:54:32] <knoba> googlah: "relaying" : happens when a mail server forwards emails to another mail server. It must only be allowed for authenticated users or trusted local users so you don't get abused by spammers (see: http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html)
[17:55:04] <growltiger> !null_sender
[17:55:05] <knoba> growltiger: Error: "null_sender" is not a valid command.
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[17:55:20] <mutex> I have postfix sending mail through a non-resolveable IP address
[17:55:36] <mutex> I think this has something to do with it, can't I tell postfix NOT to resolve certain addresses
[17:55:50] <mutex> say ones that are in a private network with unrouteable IP address on the public internet
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[17:57:44] <rob0> !relay_denied
[17:57:44] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[17:57:48] <rob0> :)
[17:58:10] <cpm> !rob0_denied
[17:58:10] <knoba> cpm: Error: "rob0_denied" is not a valid command.
[17:58:27] <rob0> !vice-versa
[17:58:27] <knoba> rob0: "vice-versa" : adv : with the order reversed; on the contrary; on opposite sides. eg: 'rob0 loathes cpm and vice-versa'
[17:59:52] <mutex> erm
[17:59:53] <mutex> ok
[18:02:36] <xDie> hi all
[18:02:38] <mutex> cept my ip's are all listed in relay_domains
[18:02:47] <xDie> how to disabled <> null sender address
[18:02:49] <mutex> its something to do with DNS not being able to reverse resolve
[18:02:55] <rob0> !relay_domains
[18:02:55] <knoba> rob0: "relay_domains" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: What destination domains (and subdomains thereof) this system will receive mail for and will relay mail to. Subdomain matching is controlled with the parent_domain_matches_subdomains parameter. See also !address_classes
[18:03:46] <rob0> Why to disable <> null sender address?
[18:03:49] <xDie> bots of spammers send to local accounts with null address <>
[18:04:11] <Dominian> uhh
[18:04:12] <rob0> !backscatter
[18:04:13] <knoba> rob0: "backscatter" : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
[18:04:21] <Dominian> some web services send with a null address
[18:04:33] <Dominian> some bounce messages send with null address
[18:04:34] <mutex> yeah except this is my internal setup
[18:04:41] <mutex> I have a public email gateway
[18:04:48] <xDie> yes but local
[18:04:49] <mutex> that sends email through my private network
[18:04:55] <rob0> mutex, see /topic
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[18:05:41] <growltiger> you violate a very important rfc if you dont accept from null sender
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[18:06:21] <xDie> rob0, tnx! i go
[18:06:24] <rob0> It might be reasonable, however, to subject <> to extra RBL checks.
[18:06:41] <mutex> I have not found much useful in the topic
[18:06:50] <rob0> !restriction_class
[18:06:51] <knoba> rob0: "restriction_class" : postfix per-client/user/etc. access control http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[18:08:36] <rob0> Hint: are you asking questions?
[18:08:56] <cpm> !chuck_norris
[18:08:57] <knoba> cpm: Error: "chuck_norris" is not a valid command.
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[18:11:09] <Dominian> !sweet
[18:11:10] <knoba> Dominian: "sweet" : http://sweet.nodns4.us/
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[18:14:33] <mutex> hm
[18:14:38] <mutex> well that created a mail loop
[18:16:32] <mutex> I don't think smtpd_recipient_restrictions helps me
[18:16:46] <mutex> I don't want the sending host to relay mail to me
[18:16:51] <mutex> I want it to deliver mail to me
[18:16:59] <mutex> and have it arrive locally
[18:17:21] <rob0> !basic
[18:17:22] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[18:17:32] <rob0> Sounds like mydestination is wrong.
[18:17:45] <rob0> But that's just a WAG, which is all you seem to want here.
[18:18:23] <xpoint> others using postfwd ?
[18:18:32] <mutex> I've been using postfix for years, and I'm not sure what a wag is
[18:18:39] <mutex> fancy new irc speak I can't keep up with
[18:18:39] <xpoint> want to share tips for postfwd ?
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[18:19:21] <xpoint> mutex, wag = wagon, or WW folkswagen
[18:19:51] <mutex> alright
[18:19:55] <mutex> I am unclear how that relates to email
[18:20:14] <xpoint> thay both works
[18:20:21] <rob0> damn
[18:20:33] <rob0> Wild Ass Guess
[18:20:40] <mutex> heh
[18:20:43] <rob0> I told you to read the /topic
[18:20:50] <mutex> and I read it
[18:20:52] <rob0> you seem to be unable to do that\
[18:20:56] <mutex> twice
[18:21:06] <rob0> 17:09 < rob0> Hint: are you asking questions?
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[18:22:34] <mutex> somehow my mydestination became slightly off
[18:22:36] <mutex> how odd
[18:23:14] <SARGuy> i have an interesting problem...  i have a barracuda, sending to a postfix server which checks for address' against a mysql database...  if the address isn't in there, you'll get a "user unknow in virtual address table..." msg..  i have 1 specific address that for some reason is being sent back to the barracuda, then back to the postfix server, and in a loop..  any idea where this address would be hiding that it's doing that?  every other add
[18:23:25] <growltiger> wild-ass guess
[18:28:18] <SARGuy> no guesses eh?
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[18:36:04] <xpoint> no one needs barracude with postfix :)
[18:36:47] <SARGuy> 2 million messages a day...  i think we do....
[18:36:53] <xpoint> no
[18:38:45] <growltiger> the last place i worked we had a barracuda behind postfix
[18:41:15] <stockholm> what is a barracuda?
[18:41:32] <growltiger> overprice spam appliance
[18:41:36] <stockholm> ah
[18:41:37] <stockholm> :-)
[18:41:43] <growltiger> run mandrkae 9.1
[18:41:47] <SARGuy> so bascially no one has a potential solution?
[18:41:49] <xpoint> just like exchange server is
[18:41:54] <growltiger> and postfix mysql and spamassassin
[18:42:49] <xpoint> growltiger, you forget one part, amavisd-new
[18:47:21] <cpm> sounds like a question for barracuda technical support
[18:47:39] <SARGuy> the problem is on the postfix server, not the barracuda
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[18:48:25] <xpoint> no one showed the problem on postconf -n in pastebin.com
[18:49:00] <cpm> SARGuy, you're positive of this?
[18:49:10] <cpm> if postfix is bouncing, it has cause.
[18:49:18] <cpm> the logs will show why.
[18:49:41] <cpm> but properly configured postfix won't often bounce, because it won't accept mail it can't deliver.
[18:50:16] <rob0> !unknown_virtual
[18:50:16] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)
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[18:51:43] <cpm> !unknown_rob0
[18:51:44] <knoba> cpm: Error: "unknown_rob0" is not a valid command.
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[18:58:07] <SARGuy> cpm: the message is only bounced after it gets stuck in the loop...  yes i'm positive it's postfix...
[19:00:01] <cpm> "that for some reason is being sent back to the barracuda"
[19:00:07] <cpm> that 'for some reason' will be in your logs
[19:00:12] <cpm> what is the reason?
[19:01:25] <SARGuy> i don't see anything in the logs that says why it is sending to the barracuda for that specific address.
[19:02:53] <xpoint> see barracuda logs then why its sent to postfix
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[19:04:09] <xpoint> and show postfix logs, and postconf -n else we need crystall balls, or i start say 42
[19:04:13] <rob0> I don't see anything either.
[19:04:19] <SARGuy> so let's try this a differente way...  i telnet into port 25 directly to postfix server...  i try to send message to a specific address...  message is then sent to the barracuda, which is the incorrect behavior...  i send message to another address on the same domain...  works fine...
[19:04:24] <rob0> This is why we have a /topic here.
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[19:05:43] <rob0> Oh in that case, you have a bug. Send in for your refund. It takes pi * 365 weeks to process your claim.
[19:06:20] <xpoint> hehe
[19:08:22] * cpm sends rob0 in for a refund
[19:08:53] <xpoint> its takes 2 * pi / 4 to get rob0 refunded
[19:08:55] <rob0> um, but, do you want what I'm worth, or what you paid for me?
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[19:13:28] <cpm> speaking of worth (sorry) how goes the life of leisure? Have you re-enslaved yourself yet?
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[19:17:43] <rob0> Right now, my main priority is to get out of this rental housing, which was being subsidized.
[19:18:18] <voidwarranty> I have an interface with multiple public IPs. Is it possible to set up forwarding email off one IP while having normal reset mail sent from another?
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[19:19:16] <rob0> what's the problem, trying to avoid blacklisting?
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[19:20:14] <voidwarranty> no. just for organizing purposes
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[19:23:42] <voidwarranty> possible or am i being too demanding?
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[19:25:42] <rob0> What is "forwarding email"? What is "normal reset mail"? Anyway, the answer is "probably".
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[19:26:43] <voidwarranty> mail received to foo at example dot com and forwarded to say foo at domain dot tld would be forwarded mail
[19:27:02] <voidwarranty> everything else is normal mail
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[19:30:24] <voidwarranty> here's my problem
[19:30:37] <voidwarranty> i have hosting cients forwarding all their domain mail to yahoo accounts
[19:31:02] <voidwarranty> yahoo ends up black listing the mail server and now other clients can't send order confirmations to customers on yahoo
[19:31:21] <voidwarranty> the goal is so the people having all their email forwarded end up black listing just themselves
[19:32:21] <growltiger> yahoo dont work that way
[19:32:32] <growltiger> nor do most other mail hosts
[19:33:16] <voidwarranty> well apparently they do
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[19:33:45] <rob0> Yup, if you forward spam to Y!, they will consider you a spammer. Nothing new there.
[19:34:13] <voidwarranty> and my users are having me forward spam apparently. i want just the forwarding accounts to get blocked
[19:34:57] <voidwarranty> they get spammed. they have me forward it to their yahoo account. IP got black listed. no problem as long as i can have nonforwarded mail sent off another IP
[19:35:23] <Dominian> I wouldn't forward freakin' spam
[19:35:26] <Dominian> Tell them to piss off :)
[19:35:54] <voidwarranty> heh they're paying clients who're getting spammed and i'm not in the business of filtering their email
[19:36:12] <voidwarranty> last thing i need is to filter the wrong message and have a client calling bitchig
[19:36:33] <rob0> Maybe they're not paying enough.
[19:36:51] <Dominian> ahh
[19:36:56] <voidwarranty> so no ideas on postfix configuratin though?
[19:36:59] <Dominian> voidwarranty: move it to google apps and let google handle it :P
[19:38:13] <voidwarranty> right. i run a large operation with many domains. i dont control their DNS in all cases. not happening
[19:38:39] <seekwill> How large?
[19:39:12] <voidwarranty> *sigh* apparently no one has a clue on how to confgure postfix for this
[19:39:25] <seekwill> Maybe you're going about it wrong
[19:39:56] <seekwill> The problem with forwarding spam off just one IP is when the ISP starts blocking your entier subnet
[19:40:09] <seekwill> Oh. 1.2.3.4 is spamming me. Let's block 1.2.3.0/24
[19:40:10] <voidwarranty> hmm
[19:40:17] <seekwill> THAT happens
[19:40:27] <voidwarranty> fair enough
[19:40:51] <voidwarranty> i'm gonna still try to see if postfix can be configured that way
[19:41:16] <seekwill> Postfix doesn't play well like that.
[19:41:23] <voidwarranty> hmm
[19:41:23] <seekwill> You might want to run a postfix instance for each IP
[19:41:28] <rob0> Sure it can, just set up transports
[19:41:41] <rob0> but as pointed out, it will not solve the problem
[19:41:56] <rob0> your warranty is void :)
[19:42:50] <voidwarranty> hm i'll look into transports, thanks
[19:43:12] <voidwarranty> just so i can say i did something productive for the day
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[19:44:44] <rob0> sigh
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[22:36:28] <SARGuy> hey folks: anyone have any idea why some address' would be rejected if not in the virtual address table but some would give a "Too MAny Hops" message...  both to the same domain
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[22:37:50] <rob0> !too_many_hops
[22:37:51] <knoba> rob0: "too_many_hops" : In brewing, it means you should add more barley. In Postfix it means you have a mail routing loop. No machine in the loop considers itself the final destination for the looping mail.
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[22:41:22] <SARGuy> Actually, in brewing too many hops would only change the flavor of the beer, either to the benefit or detriment, depending on the recipe.....  sorry, family owns a brewery...  In postfix, however, it's a little more tricky...  I've accepted that this is the case, however, i'm not able to isolate the problem.  especially considering the same domain (different user) is able to get mail.
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[22:47:03] <rob0> A loop means A thinks the mail should go to B, and B thinks the mail should go to A. Postfix stops the loop when there are too many Received: headers detected.
[22:48:40] <SARGuy> i understand all that...  but why would it only do it for a single (or just a few) address' in a domain?  FYI, http://pastebin.com/m637c82ad for specific info...
[22:49:02] <rob0> You probably messed around with transport_maps.
[22:49:36] <SARGuy> unfortunately, this problem pre-dates me, I'm just trying to clean up the mess
[22:49:59] <rob0> Oh, that's looping between Postfix and amavisd on the same machine.
[22:50:11] <rob0> !filter
[22:50:12] <knoba> rob0: Error: "filter" is not a valid command.
[22:50:17] <rob0> !filter_readme
[22:50:18] <knoba> rob0: "filter_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html :: After-queue content filtering
[22:50:38] <rob0> !content_filter
[22:50:39] <knoba> rob0: "content_filter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The name of a mail delivery transport that filters mail after it is queued.
[22:50:51] <rob0> !receive_override_options
[22:50:51] <knoba> rob0: "receive_override_options" : (default: empty) - Enable or disable recipient validation, built-in content filtering, or address mapping. Typically, these are specified in master.cf as arguments for the smtpd(8), qmqpd(8) or pickup(8) daemons. See: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#receive_override_options
[22:51:08] <SARGuy> wouldn't that affect all mail delivery?
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[22:59:21] <rob0> I think the amavisd-new documentation has an example of receive_override_options on prefilter and reinjection smtpd's.
[23:00:01] <SARGuy> i'm looking at that now...  but it still doesn't make sense that most mail is delivered, through Amavis, just fine...
[23:04:19] <SARGuy> Let me just make sure I know what's going on here so I can figure it out...  Message delivered to Postfix -> Postfix deliveres msg to Amavis -> Amavis delivers message back to postfix -> Postfix looks at headers and says 5.4.0 Too Many Hops -> Message fails...  That seem about right?
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[23:20:21] <rob0> Probably means that Postfix sends it back through Amavis, until there are too many Received: headers detected.
[23:21:04] <SARGuy> hmmm
[23:21:14] <SARGuy> very strange indeed
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[23:29:37] <ehird> Is there an easy way just to tell postfix "Run this command if new mail comes in to this address"? Still making it go to the mbox.
[23:31:54] <rob0> .forward file (offer void where taxed or prohibited, or if you're using virtual(8) delivery)
[23:32:27] <rob0> also, aliases(5) (same disclaimer)
[23:34:45] <ehird> Not sure if I'm using virtual(8)...
[23:34:51] <ehird> Also, any docs on those? Been trying to find some.
[23:37:19] <rob0> um, those which? I referenced 2 man pages already. Dot-forwards are somewhat covered in local(8).
[23:38:08] <rob0> Every Postfix source tarball comes with a complete copy of the HTML documentation, too.
[23:38:39] <ehird> OK, thanks
[23:39:21] <ehird> ah
[23:39:22] <ehird> so
[23:39:34] <ehird> echo "/home/foo/my_command" >/home/foo/.forward
[23:39:41] <ehird> will execute my_command when a mail is recieved. OK, thanks
[23:39:47] <ehird> does it get the message as stdin or something?
[23:42:11] <rob0> stdin is right, your syntax probably not.
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[23:45:41] <ehird> rob0: the manpage doesn't really say
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