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[02:37:51] <Janos> hi there, is there any way to tell postfix not to return bounce messages for relay_domains, for example I'ld like to silently discard the mails that can't be delivered because the user doesn't exists on the primary server
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[08:37:07] <adnc> !mail_name
[08:37:08] <knoba> adnc: "mail_name" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The mail system name that is displayed in Received: headers, in the SMTP greeting banner, and in bounced mail.
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[08:38:47] <adnc> !smtpd_banner
[08:38:47] <knoba> adnc: "smtpd_banner" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The text that follows the 220 status code in the SMTP greeting banner. Some people like to see the mail version advertised. By default, Postfix shows no version.
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[14:17:27] <rawtaz> hi
[14:21:35] <rawtaz> i have a couple of working servers here, one os x 10.4 and one freebsd. i am a bit confused about a specific configuration variable i have on one of the servers, but not on the other. both servers provide submission on port 587, but only the freebsd server has this on its master.cf (with the submission entry): -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
[14:22:02] <rawtaz> looking at the documentation, this setting is off by default.
[14:22:12] <rawtaz> both servers require authenticated submission though.
[14:22:45] <rawtaz> so does anyone know why i have that setting enabled on the freebsd server, since it isnt on the os x server but still both require auth? it seems unneccesary on the freebsd one.
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[14:26:00] <rawtaz> the os x runs 2.1.5 and the freebsd 2.5.1
[14:28:47] <rob0> postconf smtpd_sasl_auth_enable # on OS X
[14:29:04] <rob0> 2.1.5? That's ancient.
[14:29:14] <rawtaz> yeah
[14:29:25] <rawtaz> the wonders of having an os x server
[14:31:32] <rawtaz> rob0: not sure what you meant by that line. the funny thing is that its the freebsd server that has smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
[14:32:05] <rawtaz> i dont see why that setting is used, considering that the server that doesnt have it still requires authentication
[14:32:30] <rob0> I meant you should TYPE IT (paste it) at a shell.
[14:32:35] <rawtaz> oooh :)
[14:32:54] <rawtaz> it is enabled :O
[14:33:01] <rawtaz> i must check the main conf then
[14:33:01] <rob0> imagine that
[14:33:08] <rawtaz> *blushes*
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[14:33:46] <rawtaz> soo, is it correct that if that setting isnt enabled, it is not possible to authenticate over the submission port? if the client tries, its ignored by the server?
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[14:36:16] <rob0> AUTH would not be offered in response to EHLO. Only a really stupid client would try. And that attempt would be 501'ed.
[14:36:57] <rawtaz> is ee
[14:37:00] <rawtaz> i see*
[14:39:37] <rawtaz> hm, i dont have any smtpd_client_restrictions enabled on the freebsd one
[14:40:45] <rawtaz> heh. os x leopard uses 2.4.3.
[14:40:47] <rob0> There are about 1.2 gazillion ways to do restrictions.
[14:40:52] <rawtaz> yeah  guess :)
[14:40:55] <rob0> !access
[14:40:55] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.
[14:41:08] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[14:41:09] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[14:41:31] <rob0> ^^ spam specific, but it helps you understand how to do restrictions.
[14:41:45] <rawtaz> cool, thanks!
[14:44:32] <rawtaz> i need to get to that on the old server anyway
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[14:48:53] <deftunix> if possible define multiple istance for postfix message_size_limit? or is possible define multiple value of this parameter in postfix?
[14:48:55] <deftunix> thanks,
[14:49:49] <deftunix> when i define maildirsize file with new mailquota, system, recalculate quota occupation of older message?
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[14:52:08] <cite> deftunix: You should be ablte to clone the virtual(8) transport in master.cf and append different virtual mailbox size limits, then route using a transport_maps entry.
[14:52:56] <cite> But honestly, the virtual(8) doesn't have that many features, so perhaps a better solution would be to replace it by some other mail delivery agent (Cyurs and Dovecot have their own MDAs, for example).
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[15:05:45] <rawtaz> damnit..
[15:05:49] <rawtaz> something broke :(
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[15:18:43] <rawtaz> guys
[15:18:52] <rawtaz> do you have any idea why this might be? --> http://pastie.org/305464
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[15:23:05] <rawtaz> the only amavis i can find in the process list is clamd running as _amavisd
[15:23:13] <rawtaz> im not sure how amavis is started:O
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[15:28:15] <shasta> rawtaz, you're supposed to start amavis yourself. postfix won't do it for you.
[15:28:21] <rawtaz> shasta: true, true
[15:28:41] <rawtaz> im looking at it now, it seems that launchd in os x havent got amavis loaded any more
[15:28:55] <rawtaz> and theres something about stray process in the logs
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[15:31:36] <rawtaz> got it
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[15:33:11] <leonidas__> hi
[15:33:48] <leonidas__> sorry I speak english like a dog
[15:34:29] <leonidas__> im try to setup postfix for use with dyndns's domain
[15:35:00] <leonidas__> i test postfix on localhost
[15:35:05] <leonidas__> i works
[15:35:10] <leonidas__> it works
[15:36:37] <leonidas__> but i dont understand howto setup postfix to work with virtual domains
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[15:44:01] <rawtaz> question: is there a better alternative to smtpd_tls_received_header to help indicate that the source of the transmission authenticated and is kind of "ok"?
[15:44:13] <rawtaz> the docs say "This is disabled by default, as the information may be modified in transit through other mail servers. Only information that was recorded by the final destination can be trusted. "
[15:45:01] <sysmonk> rawtaz: permit_sasl_authenticated
[15:45:15] <sysmonk> depends on where and what do you want to do with it
[15:45:32] <sysmonk> but depending on headers always sucks as they always can be forged
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[15:49:04] <rawtaz> sysmonk: yeah. i was just thinking that adding a header indicating that the sender has been authenticated should be a nice thing to do:)
[15:49:20] <rawtaz> but perhaps i should just disable smtpd_tls_received_header
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[20:13:48] <cdavis> Is anyone aware of a way to send a daily digest of the spam in the quarantine folder to each user daily?
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[20:49:30] <deftunix_> ?
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[22:20:36] <ocZio> hi all I am having problems to receive mails. My setup is postfix latest version + mysql + postfixadmin + dovecot
[22:20:47] <ocZio> when I send mail from other mailbox to mine I got this :
[22:20:50] <ocZio>  postfix/virtual[10706]: fatal: open /etc/postfix/mysql/virtual_mailbox_maps.cf: Permission denied
[22:21:05] <ocZio> the permissions are set to root for the whole /etc/postfix
[22:21:18] <ocZio> am I missing something or did something wrong?
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[22:23:15] <cdavis> I cannot figure out why quota isn't working and cannot figure out how to increase the logging? I don't want to increase peer logging, just all logging so I can see if anthing is going on with quotas?
[22:23:43] <cdavis> what does virtual_create_maildirsize = yes do? If I migrate vpopmail users over does that mean quota won't work because it didn't have a chance to create the maildirsize?
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[22:27:15] <sekhmet> ocZio: If your postfix is running as a user other than root (which it should be), you'll need to make sure that user has access to that file
[22:28:43] <jair> guys, I already installed debian etch, also installed and configure postfix to use smtp and tls.  certificates etc.. are configured, the hostname is configured, the MX record and A record are configured in the dns and domain.  now if I want to test that root, or the user "jair" can received emails => jair at persistentit dot com, what should I do, also if I want to start adding more users or make emails for root redirected to "postmaster"
[22:29:30] <ocZio> sekhmet: well I run it as postfix but when I give access to /etc/postfix/mysql access to "postfix" user
[22:29:34] <jair> I haven't install corier-imap or curier-pop3, that will be something I need to send emails correct? or to store the emails as well.
[22:29:54] <ocZio> then it brings with warning messages when I start postfix, telling me that the owner is not root
[22:30:04] <ocZio> or other group is readable/writable
[22:30:34] <stockholm> can i rewrite the message-id on a mail i pass on? i want to rewrite the domain part to be of the sending mailserver
[22:33:00] <sekhmet> ocZio: It'd probably help if you had the actual error message
[22:41:57] <ocZio> sekhmet sec
[22:42:14] <jair> so here is what i have on my entry: "/etc/aliases" http://paste.debian.net/20472/
[22:42:32] <jair> does this mean that mails sent to postmaster will be redirected to root?
[22:43:03] <jair> and since I have "jair" as one of the users I should received emails on my home directory?
[22:43:10] <ocZio> sekhmet: I did chown postfix -R /etc/postfix/mysql
[22:43:14] <ocZio> and with postfix check
[22:43:15] <ocZio> I have
[22:43:16] <ocZio> postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/mysql
[22:43:16] <ocZio> postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/mysql/virtual_alias_maps.cf
[22:43:27] <ocZio> + 2 more lines for two other .cf files
[22:43:47] <ocZio> so I am bit confused :)
[22:46:15] <sekhmet> ocZio: well, two things.  One: that *does* just look like a warning, not an error, so it should be otherwise working fine, despite you seeing that on your screen
[22:46:56] <sekhmet> ocZio: Two, if Postfix ideally wants things to be owned by root, then make them owned by root, but give the user access to read the files via groups, for instance
[22:47:08] <sekhmet> ocZio: You don't need to actually be the owner of a file to have permission to read it.
[22:47:42] <ocZio> I know
[22:47:44] <ocZio> but still
[22:47:46] <ocZio> sec
[22:48:23] <ocZio> I am checking your way
[22:52:01] <ocZio> now when I do postfix check its allright and when I run I got
[22:52:01] <ocZio>  postfix/virtual[10978]: fatal: open /etc/postfix/mysql/virtual_mailbox_maps.cf: Permission denied
[22:52:51] <sekhmet> ocZio: So, give the postfix user permission to read that file.  Presuably it runs under the "mail" group or somesuch.
[22:54:35] <stockholm> what happens if i just remove the message-id on outgoing message?
[22:58:50] <ocZio>  sekhmet: allright seems to be solvec now imap problems for /home/vmail permissions
[22:58:53] <ocZio> damn :p
[22:58:59] <ocZio> anyway will try some stuff ty
[22:59:24] <sekhmet> np
[23:02:59] <jair> I am pretty new to postfix, can anyone answer, if I have the smtp ready I can test send messages but not to received right?  to receive emails I need to install a pop or imap software that will use a directory or user's home directories to place the messages correct?
[23:03:28] <snappy> jair: no, postfix can deliver locally.
[23:05:39] <jair> snappy: ok, I have a domain www.persistentit.com and I already set up postfix with tls, how can I test if you can received or send me messages?
[23:06:01] <jair> I will need to install imap or pop right to get messages from other MTAs?
[23:06:25] <snappy> jair: Setup local recipients (see ``man 5 local'') and send emails to it. DNS must be correctly configured aswell.
[23:06:46] <snappy> jair: the local recipients will most likely be users on the machines itself.
[23:07:10] <jair> I think I have at least one recipient configured check this: http://paste.debian.net/20472/
[23:07:58] <jair> I want the messages sent to postmaster ---> go to root.  or the user jair
[23:08:12] <jair> so all I have to do is change it on the "/etc/aliases"?
[23:08:27] <moggie2> other MTAs will send emails to postfix, then it's up to you what you tell postfix to do with them.
[23:08:35] <jair> in this machine I have only two main users root and jair
[23:09:26] <war9407> anyone here use mimedefang / mailscanner / or dspam w/postfix?
[23:09:34] <war9407> any of them particularly useful?
[23:10:08] <jair> moggie2: so the way I tell postfix to do that is using the "/etc/aliases"?
[23:10:25] <jair> so where pop or imap is needed?
[23:11:27] <moggie2> sounds like you need to do some googleing and reading
[23:11:42] <moggie2> to understand more about common mail systems
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[23:12:33] <moggie2> pop3 and imap are generally used to provide interfaces for clients to access mail stored for them
[23:15:29] <moggie2> mailscanner is quite nice and integrates rather nicely with postfix IMHO
[23:16:08] <jair> moggie2: that is correct
[23:16:33] <jair> but you are not answering the questions I asked,  It also looks like I have some understanding.
[23:16:42] <jair> I did install debian and the postfix with tls.
[23:16:51] <jair> that is done and I think I understand it
[23:16:59] <jair> I guess I will go read more
[23:18:44] <cdavis> postgrey is rejecting valid users that I inserted into the database, anyone tell me why that might happen?
[23:20:22] <moggie2> incorrectly insert into the db?
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[23:57:50] <jair> if I did the test and send the emails using telnet, the email was received and they replied where should I look for the message?
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