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[00:12:06] <higuita> voxter: try to compare that messages with others, check the logs and do a fsck
[00:12:18] <higuita> if needed, enable the postfix debug
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[00:21:27] <voxter> huh. in my logs, if i have delay=800 on some messages, does that mean there was a delay passing it between queues, or what?
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[02:18:32] <endeavormac> when setting relay_domains, do domains i intend to send mail to have to be in this list?
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[02:35:51] <rob0> !relay_domains
[02:35:52] <knoba> rob0: "relay_domains" : A configuration parameter in the main.cf: What destination domains (and subdomains thereof) this system will receive mail for and will relay mail to. Subdomain matching is controlled with the parent_domain_matches_subdomains parameter. See also !address_classes
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[03:10:43] <endeavormac> knoba: so if i want to be able to send email to all domains, can i use a wildcard?
[03:22:05] <snappy> I have postfix/amavisd/SA running. I want to install/evaluate dspam for only certain users. Is it possbile to have postfix conditionally use dspam as the content_filter based on a list of recipients that want dspam?
[03:22:33] <snappy> I want to avoid dspam/amavis/sa cooperation, and just have one set exclusively per recipient/account.
[03:27:53] <higuita> snappy: you can probably use the recipente check to call the filter transport:localhost:port
[03:28:25] <higuita> one entry calling filter for each user
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[03:29:01] <snappy> ah sorry, premature question, i actually got a solution (very similar to yours) in #dspam heh
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[04:17:53] <endeavormac> i'm having relay access denied issues..
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[04:30:06] <sj7trunks> endeavormac did you figure it out?
[04:30:29] <endeavormac> no, i think i'm getting closer
[04:30:53] <endeavormac> trying to set up mailman, don't want my mail server to be an open relay
[04:30:55] <sj7trunks> set the mynetworks variable and inet_interfaces
[04:33:18] <endeavormac> oh money i got it
[04:33:39] <sj7trunks> great
[04:34:46] <endeavormac> would you mind taking a look at my smtpd_recipient_restrictions to make sure that things are generall in order?
[04:35:33] <sj7trunks> i'm not a postfix guru but i can take a look
[04:35:43] <endeavormac> http://paste2.org/p/93236
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[04:41:16] <sj7trunks> #
[04:41:16] <sj7trunks> Lines 8, 9: always specify "check_policy_service" AFTER "reject_unauth_destination" or else your system could become an open relay.
[04:41:27] <endeavormac> ok, thanks
[04:41:28] <sj7trunks> http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html
[04:42:19] <endeavormac> and here i was thinking i was done and could go to sleep now :p
[04:42:52] <sj7trunks> hehe
[04:43:29] <sj7trunks> any errors when you start?
[04:44:26] <endeavormac> i'm reading before i throw something in there
[04:45:25] <endeavormac> wait i don't get it
[04:45:29] <endeavormac> why do i need a policy service
[04:46:05] <sj7trunks> i was just going down the list and checking them on the postfix site
[04:48:13] <endeavormac> i'll have to worry about it some more later
[04:48:16] <endeavormac> i have to get to sleep
[04:48:18] <sj7trunks> alright
[04:48:20] <sj7trunks> good luck
[04:48:21] <endeavormac> i'm up in 6 12/2 hours
[04:48:28] <endeavormac> *.5
[04:48:31] <endeavormac> yeah, thanks though
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[05:12:33] <amason__> hey guys, i know this is nothing to do with postfix, however if any of you are using maildrop in delivery mode with mysql or postgres and have some time to assist with populating $DEFAULT or $MAILDIR env variables then I would appreciate help in #courier
[05:13:00] <amason__> i imagine a few people would be using postfix with maildrop
[05:13:09] <amason__> other wise i wouldnt' ask
[05:13:46] * Motoko-chan uses Dovecot
[05:14:15] <amason__> Motoko-chan: yeh so do i for IMAP, this is in place of virtual as the MDA
[05:14:33] * Motoko-chan also unfortunately uses qmail still
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[06:23:37] <sj7trunks> so my relaying is working correctly but it's not changing mydomain
[06:23:38] <sj7trunks> grr
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[06:39:55] <sj7trunks> is there any documentation on what to do if myorigin does not work?
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[07:05:19] <elvis123> hi, is it possible for postfix to pull mail from another postfix machine?
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[07:07:36] <arooni-mobile> anyone here handy with kolab?
[07:07:51] <elvis123> the problem i have is one of my local mailservers receive mail from main mail server inside a vpn. but now management have decided that they dont want that anymore. thus i have to either reroute all mail to that server or pull it...
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[07:25:35] <snappy> I have postfix, amavis/SA, dspam setup. DSPAM works conditionally so that if you're in the transport-dspam transport maps it injects to DSPAM via LMTP socket. Upon reinjection I redefine transport_maps so that it excludes transport-dspam to avoid mail loops. Everything seems to be going well, except when dspam reinjects I get the following error with postfix and the message is deferred: during fwd-connect (Negative greeting:
[07:25:46] <snappy> (please let me know if there was cutoff)
[07:26:43] <snappy> I'm not sure what forward connect/negative greeting means
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[07:37:28] <snappy> When adding options in master.cf like -o foo=bar is it important to have no whitespace between the foo=bar?
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[07:46:18] <arooni-mobile> if i'm tryin to send emails from mydomain.com .... should i set up an A record of mail.mydomain.com or a cname record for mail.mydomain.com?  or do i need to do anything like this?  i want to send mail via postfix
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[08:15:30] <riz0n> i am trying to tweak my postfix configuration files to require SMTP auth and allow secure transmission
[08:16:50] <riz0n> according to the documentation i have been following, i should see two lines when i do a ehlo localhost from telnet: 250-STARTTLS and 250-AUTH. I see the STARTTLS line but i do not see 250-AUTH. I see 250-AUTH PLAIN TEXT and 250-AUTH=PLAIN TEXT ... what do i need to check or change to remote the 250-AUTH=PLAIN TEXT and replace it with 250-AUTH ?? thanks for any help you can provide...
[08:18:30] <snappy> I can't seem to figure out what is causing a mail loop. I'm trying to config PF/amavis+SA/dspam. My pf config is here: http://rafb.net/p/Lbf6cT33.html  . When I email nav at hidden dot net, it is injected into dspam via smtp:127.0.0.1:10030.
[08:19:37] <snappy> DSPAM then reinjects it back into the queue by delivering to 127.0.0.1:10025. For some reason though, it is delivered back to 127.0.0.1:10030. I've taken particular care of not allowing transport-dspam to be looked up upon reinjection. But for some reason it delivers straight back to 127.0.0.1:10030 rather than straight to cyrus.
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[08:45:17] <MrY> i'm using postfix smtp to send out email to other domains, how can I tell what EHLO message postfix is using?
[08:52:45] <snappy> check your logs, increase verbosity on the smtp process
[08:52:52] <snappy> that's an easy way.
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[11:14:03] <fluxdude> is it possible to have postfix listen for 2 domain names for receiving email, mydomain seems to show only one ...
[11:16:03] <sysmonk> postfix listens on ip addresses, not domains
[11:16:10] <sysmonk> as any other program...
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[11:48:42] <momo2k8> hello :)
[11:49:33] <momo2k8> i am searching for a way to make postfix use a secondary "smarthost" in case the first is not reachable.
[11:49:48] <momo2k8> has anyone a hint where to start?
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[11:53:09] <sysmonk> !fallback_relay
[11:53:10] <knoba> sysmonk: "fallback_relay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of relay hosts for destinations that can't be found or that are unreachable.
[11:53:11] <sysmonk> momo2k8: ^^
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[11:53:56] <momo2k8> sysmon: thank you, this sound like the thing i am ssearching for. so i define a smarthost and a fallback_relay and all is fine :)
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[11:56:32] <cpm> or even sysmonk
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[12:01:15] <Pinchiukas> ok I'm having some weirdness with postfix... I started the service, but I can't connect to it. Ant netstat says it IS listening on port 25, how can I figure out what's wrong? I can't seem to find any log files
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[12:07:04] <strummula> hello
[12:07:19] <momo2k8> sysmonk: works like a charm :) thank you very much.
[12:07:34] <momo2k8> bye folks, have a nice day
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[12:07:52] <strummula> i've copied working postfix and horde dbs on a second server. On this one i receive a "login failed" message. What can be wrong?
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[12:12:24] <cpm> postfix doesn't have anything to do with logging into horde/imp. Check your imap server.
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[12:15:20] <Pinchiukas> tell me why telnet can connect to port 25 of the postfix machine, but not get anything
[12:15:29] <Pinchiukas> that's just plain weird
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[12:56:13] <WoRsTeNBoY> hi, some authenticated user send a mail and recieved an "Successful Mail Delivery Report", it appears as a bounce, what is this ?
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[13:06:13] <cpm> http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2008/08/words-to-avoid.html
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[13:07:55] <WoRsTeNBoY> hmm, i see its something the client might have asked, can that be the case ?
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[13:16:39] <obrseamus> any one knows what causes postfix to reject an email with a "Server configuration error" ?
[13:16:45] <obrseamus> know*
[13:19:17] <adaptr> lemme see... at a guess, I think it could be.... a server configuration error ?
[13:19:28] <adaptr> bad map
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[13:24:32] <obrseamus> :)
[13:24:45] <obrseamus> I'll admit it, I'm a noob, and have no idea what that means
[13:25:01] <obrseamus> we only get the error on emails from one company
[13:25:29] <adaptr> better read your logs again
[13:27:43] <obrseamus> hmm, maybe adding them to our whitelist
[13:28:19] <obrseamus> does the whitelist need to be alphabetical?
[13:28:26] <adaptr> perhaps try to fix the obvious server error ?
[13:30:32] <obrseamus> It isn't obvious to me unfortunately.
[13:31:00] <adaptr> postfix tells you there is a server configuration error - that seems fairly obvious to me
[13:32:29] <obrseamus> ok, but what type of error that it be that is only occuring on these emails? All users from their company seem to affected
[13:33:02] <adaptr> as I said, that means it's a bad map, and moreover one that is not read in until it is *used*
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[13:33:54] <adaptr> so find out which map these addresses are in, or pass through, or whatever
[13:34:14] <adaptr> start with what the addresses actually look like
[13:34:24] <adaptr> they may simply be malformed
[13:34:35] <adaptr> and your configuration set up to allow them up to a certain point
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[13:36:26] <obrseamus> ok, I'll start there then
[13:36:28] <obrseamus> thanks
[13:37:03] <hnsz2002> hi! can i set up more destination to one mailbox in virtual mailbox maps file?
[13:37:34] <hnsz2002> ie. 'hnsz2002     hnsz2002 at domain dot com hnsz2003 at domain dot com'
[13:37:39] <adaptr> you can put as many recipients in one mailbox as you like
[13:37:43] <hnsz2002> and the mail stored both max
[13:37:44] <adaptr> no, separately
[13:37:50] <adaptr> and no, that's the reverse of what you asked
[13:38:02] <adaptr> that's TWO mailboxen for ONE addressee
[13:38:18] <adaptr> try to grok LHS and RHS
[13:38:29] <adaptr> "recipient - mailbox"
[13:38:41] <hnsz2002> in separated line works?
[13:38:52] <adaptr> what exactly are you trying to do ?
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[13:39:01] <adaptr> !virtual_mailbox_maps
[13:39:02] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_mailbox_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with all valid addresses in the domains that match $virtual_mailbox_domains.
[13:39:05] <Pinchiukas> [postfix/pipe] 13AE57805D: to=<vaidas at rikoma dot lt>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.17, delays=0.12/0.02/0/0.03, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/dovecot.log: Permission denied )
[13:39:21] <Pinchiukas> why is postfixes pipe trying to write to the dovecot log?
[13:39:26] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: who is dovecot running as ?
[13:39:29] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: it isn't
[13:39:41] <adaptr> that's dovecot
[13:39:51] <Pinchiukas> dovecot ir running as nobody
[13:40:11] <adaptr> that's not right
[13:40:28] <adaptr> if it were running as nobody then it could never deliver mail, nor retrieve it
[13:41:04] <hnsz2002> adaptr: i have more mailbox, and one colleague is on a freedom, asked his substitute to obtain his letters, but the own alley would like to see it
[13:41:08] <Pinchiukas> this one: "/usr/sbin/dovecot -c /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf" is running as root
[13:41:49] <adaptr> hnsz2002: for gods sake which translator are you mungling this through
[13:41:54] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: yes
[13:42:04] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: but the MDA is running as nobody ?
[13:42:05] <hnsz2002> adaptr: sorry
[13:42:38] <Pinchiukas> adaptr: no idea, lemme check
[13:43:55] <Pinchiukas> adaptr: postfixes master.cf has these two lines: "dovecot   unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe" and " flags=DRhu user=mail:mail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f ${sender} -d ${recipient}" so I suppose it's set to run as user mail in group mail
[13:44:45] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: okay, that's what should happen - and the IMAP server ? who does that run as ?
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[13:44:53] <adaptr> hint: it's not mail
[13:46:07] <Pinchiukas> adaptr: I'll honest I can't see an imap server process, just an imap-login running as nobody
[13:46:25] <adaptr> that's why you read dovecot.conf for that
[13:46:40] <adaptr> do you even KNOW why you're running dovecot ?
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[13:47:14] <Pinchiukas> adaptr: for pop3 and imap access :)
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[13:51:43] <Pinchiukas> goddamn this can be confusing
[13:52:28] <adaptr> what user does dovecot run under
[13:52:43] <Pinchiukas> the master process?
[13:52:43] <adaptr> i.e. who is the owner of the dovecot log
[13:52:55] <adaptr> bullshit, we're not talking about postfix
[13:53:02] <adaptr> you may think you are, but you're not
[13:53:22] <Pinchiukas> I meant "the master dovecot process?"
[13:53:48] <Pinchiukas> dovecot.log owner is root
[13:54:22] <adaptr> and do the permissions allow the dovecot user to write to it ?
[13:54:29] <Pinchiukas> no
[13:54:39] <adaptr> let me quell your anxiety: no
[13:54:44] <adaptr> fix that
[13:55:05] <adaptr> chown :mail and chmod g+w
[13:55:16] <Pinchiukas> how? do I run the dovecot login process as root or another user or do I change the permissions of the file?
[13:55:18] <adaptr> dovecot's group is mail, as you know
[13:55:21] <shasta> chown :mail... funny :)
[13:55:27] <adaptr> why ?
[13:55:36] <shasta> ever heard of chgrp, adaptr? :-P
[13:55:42] <adaptr> shasta: why bother ?
[13:55:57] <adaptr> chown is more flexible
[13:56:24] <shasta> you save one precious char (=
[13:56:38] <adaptr> hardly, as it is FLEXIBLE
[13:56:51] <adaptr> I can do a chown + chgrp with 4 characters LESS
[13:56:55] <Pinchiukas> I don't think my dovecot is in the mail group
[13:56:57] <adaptr> chown mail:
[13:57:09] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: the one postfix starts is, and that is all that matters
[13:57:28] <hnsz2002> adaptr: ok, i try resolv problem with recipient_bcc_maps, now works, but to the bcc address twice delivery the mail. why?
[13:57:28] <adaptr> obviously the dovecot server can write to its own log, or you would have had issues before now
[13:57:43] <shasta> for scenarios, when you actually want to change the owner, yes
[13:57:43] <adaptr> hnsz2002: because you TELL it to, that's why
[13:57:49] <Pinchiukas> maybe I could just "chown dovecot dovecot.log"?
[13:57:55] <shasta> (but i'm just being picky :>)
[13:57:58] <adaptr> shasta: I have broad and sweeping scenarios, my freind
[13:58:18] <adaptr> Pinchiukas: if you want to guarantee ALL dovecot process stop working, yes, do that
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[14:00:52] <hnsz2002> adaptr: i restore the original virtual_mailbox_maps, contain "hnsz2002 at domain dot com hnsz2002 at domain dot com", add 'recipient_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/bcc_maps' to main.cf, bcc_maps contain 'hnsz2002 at domain dot com hnsz2003 at domain dot com'. and if i send a mail to hnsz2002, on hnsz2003 stored twice
[14:02:04] <adaptr> well, duh
[14:02:13] <adaptr> you're also getting the original mail twice
[14:03:21] <hnsz2002> no
[14:04:39] <Pinchiukas> why so angry adaptr? didn't get any yesterday? :)
[14:05:18] <adaptr> yes, I got one mail from UPS that my new dualcore Atom is underway
[14:05:35] <Pinchiukas> are they selling those already?
[14:05:36] <adaptr> perhaps the fact that I haven;t got it yet is pissing me off
[14:05:41] <adaptr> for months
[14:05:54] <Pinchiukas> just the cpu? :) or a machine along with it?
[14:07:01] <Pinchiukas> by the way, if I didn't lock users to their mail directories with dovecot, they could write to the dovecot logfile, as it's owner is the group "mail"?
[14:08:31] <adaptr> mini-itx box, 1GB ram, 120GB 2.5", slimline burner
[14:08:43] <adaptr> smy newest server, runs at 35W idle
[14:09:45] <Pinchiukas> whoa, nice
[14:09:57] <adaptr> hopefully it is silent
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[14:10:04] <Pinchiukas> should be
[14:11:44] <Pinchiukas> did you order the parts or the whole computer?
[14:12:27] <adaptr> it's a complete box
[14:12:34] <adaptr> ebay ftw ;)
[14:12:39] <Pinchiukas> my 1.4GHz p4 with 3 sticks of ram and 2x40GB + 300GB hard drivers runs at 70-100W :)
[14:12:44] <Pinchiukas> what make?
[14:13:25] <adaptr> make ? I think it's sorta always Intel
[14:13:42] <Pinchiukas> intel made everything?
[14:13:48] <adaptr> a P4 < 100W ? that's unlikely
[14:13:59] <adaptr> the P4 itself is insanely powerhungry
[14:14:10] <adaptr> one of the owrst designs ever
[14:14:11] <Pinchiukas> well my measuring gizmo sometimes likes to lie :/
[14:14:23] <adaptr> look up its exact TDP, start with that
[14:14:33] <adaptr> the box is..wait
[14:14:47] <adaptr> http://www.jcp-tech.de/en/produkte/mini-itx/jcp-mi-102-bs.html
[14:15:40] <Pinchiukas> the TDP of my p4 should be around 55W :)
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[14:16:18] <adaptr> leaving only 15W for 3 DIMMs,a mobo and 3 hard drives ? forget it!
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[14:16:46] <adaptr> hard drives are 9~10W each, DIMMs can be a few W each, the mobo will typically be 10~20 W
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[14:17:25] <Pinchiukas> I don't think a TDP of 55W means it always consumes exactly that
[14:17:28] <adaptr> more significantly for such an old system, the PSU will be horribly inefficient, wasting another 50W on the AC side easily
[14:17:50] <adaptr> no, it means it produces at most that as HEAT, which is 99% of all power
[14:18:06] <adaptr> so at full load, expect 55~60W for the P4
[14:18:12] <Pinchiukas> yep
[14:18:14] <adaptr> but it's not on full load all the time
[14:18:24] <Pinchiukas> it also has two nics and a usb wifi device
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[14:18:46] <adaptr> nics use nothing, wifi slightly more than nothing :)
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[15:39:14] <NET||abuse> hey guys. trying to resolve what happened to an email which was sent from a printer to our mail server. i'm grep'ing through the mail log, and i found the message ID, but i have not idea what happened to it after the message was handed over to the mail server
[15:40:12] <Roobarb> NET||abuse: jsut grep for that message id in the logs
[15:40:21] <Roobarb> it shoudl say what it did with it
[15:41:03] <NET||abuse> ok, so in /var/log/ i do "grep D3D0B1794003 mail.*"
[15:42:19] <NET||abuse> ahah! just saw what went wrong. user missed letter in domain name of email address. .
[15:42:21] <NET||abuse> awsome, thanks.
[15:49:06] <NET||abuse> hmm, not so good.
[15:49:49] <NET||abuse> went to a domain which is a holding domain, found nullmx.xyz.com for the domian. so does that mean it's likely just ditched the message?
[15:51:21] <rob0> Use the logs, Luke!
[15:51:54] <NET||abuse> starwars references always scare me. as my name is Luke
[15:51:55] <rob0> It's either logged or in mailq.
[15:52:04] <NET||abuse> no, not in mailq
[15:52:11] <rob0> 14:39 -!- NET||abuse [n=luke at 87-198-213-218 dot ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #postfix
[15:52:24] <NET||abuse> ah :)
[15:52:47] <NET||abuse> grrr, pidgin shouldn't show my logon name should it :(
[15:53:20] <rob0> Here's a better Luke reference ... "What we have here ... is a failure to communicate."
[15:54:15] <NET||abuse> hehe, cool hand is a goooood film
[15:54:44] <NET||abuse> so sad at end
[15:55:28] <rob0> Oh, arguably not so sad, since in fact it's a retelling of the Christ story. :)
[15:56:02] <NET||abuse> ah, i suppose if you look at it that way, i'm the second coming :)
[15:56:19] <NET||abuse> awsome, i jesus...
[15:57:25] <rob0> Did you find the final disposition of the message? There's one line saying qmgr removed D3D0B1794003, the final disposition is somewhere above that (not too far usually).
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[16:00:15] <NET||abuse> it says  relay=nullmx.xxxyyyzzz.com[x.y.z.a], delay=1670, status=sent (250 Message accepted)
[16:00:48] <NET||abuse> just worried about this email beng picked up by the wrong people.
[16:01:45] <NET||abuse> it's a scan of an application form, maybe something personal information wise that a nafarious person could use... not so good
[16:02:04] <NET||abuse> not a company record, this guys own personal one, he goofed up.
[16:05:20] <NET||abuse> anyway, hopefully nothing useful on the scan,, his own problem really. idio
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[16:06:38] <tuxick> lo
[16:06:44] <rob0> relay=nullmx.xxxyyyzzz.com[x.y.z.a]
[16:07:02] <tuxick> i noticed newsyslog on freebsd seems to fail to rotate beyond maillog.0.gz
[16:07:34] <tuxick> why?
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[16:17:34] <stack_> When a connection is made to my postfix server, there seems to be about a 10s delay before it will accept any commands (HELO, EHLO, etc).  Any ideas on how to debug this?  OpenBSD 4.1 + Postfix 2.3.7
[16:21:09] <cpm> step up the logging on your smtp daemon, using the -v switch in master.cf
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[16:22:57] <robtone_> stack_, slow DNS?
[16:24:07] <vice-versa> or possibly a dead name server
[16:25:19] <stack_> robtone_, I though that might the case, but I'm using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3 and they seem to be returning quickly
[16:25:39] <rob0> I use 127.0.0.1
[16:25:59] * robtone_ uses 127.0.0.1, too
[16:26:53] <stack_> you run a local DNS server on your mail server?
[16:27:15] <robtone_> No server, just a caching recursor.
[16:27:35] * cpm recurses rob0
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[16:27:47] <rob0> always! Postfix does a metric buttload of DNS lookups. I'd never run a Postfix without its own local caching resolver.
[16:28:38] <stack_> gotcha... I'll give that a try.  It used to use a local DNS server, but I moved the server to the DMZ, so I just pointed it to internet DNS servers.  We don't have too much traffic.
[16:30:29] <robtone_> well, I wasn't too much concerned about traffic, but about the importance of DNS
[16:32:15] <rob0> Recent ISC BIND will return NXDOMAIN for RFC 1918 reverse lookups, if there is no zone specifically configured, so those will show up as "unknown" quickly.
[16:32:58] <cpm> but there should be zones for that, if you are handling them
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[16:56:58] <markl__> is it possible to make the aliases file parsing happen before transport?
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[17:00:55] <jelly> does Postfix add a Message-Id header to an incoming message if it didn't exist?
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[17:02:44] <jelly> if it does, is there a way to disable that behavior?
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[17:05:57] <stack_> robtone_: okay, I set up pdnsd on my server and it loads from OpenDNS.  I still have a delay in postfix.
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[17:09:37] <markl__> i guess i should just use a virtual alias map instead, but the same file format?
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[17:14:47] <robtone_> stack_, postconf -n?
[17:14:54] <robtone_> (to a pastebin)
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[17:16:05] <stack_> robtone_: http://pastebin.ca/1238733
[17:16:33] <stack_> I just turned on -v for smtp.  When I connect, nothing seems to happen in the logs until the really long time out happens
[17:18:17] <stack_> robtone_: http://pastebin.ca/1238735 for the log
[17:19:37] <rob0> connect from unknown[::1]
[17:19:37] <robtone_> you should turn it on for smtpd
[17:19:48] <stack_> robtone_: oh... oops
[17:20:05] <snappy> Hi guys, I've been battling with postfix, amavisd/sa, dspam all morning. I'm using amavis/sa by default, but I have setup a separate transport-dspam file that is meant for people that want to use dspam instead (it's either one or the other). My config can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/Lbf6cT33.html
[17:21:25] <snappy> The problem is when I inject mail back into the system through postfix on port 10025, regardless of redefining transport_maps to not use transport-dspam, it seems to do a lookup and gets the results from transport-dspam and sends it back to dspam (dspam sends it back to port 10025). Therefore I get a mailing loop.
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[17:22:31] <robtone_> stack_, wallclocktime looks okay (1 second)
[17:23:04] <robtone_> (but as rob0 said, connect from unknown[::1] - this suggests, that postfix had to waid for DNS)
[17:23:20] <robtone_> wait, too
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[17:25:18] <robtone_> stack_, try to echo "::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback" >> /etc/hosts (probably)
[17:26:22] <stack_> robtone_: /etc/hosts already has a line for ::1, '::1 imogen.edpaymentsystems.com imogen'
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[17:26:46] <robtone_> hm.
[17:27:40] <stack_> robtone_: looking at the log, it looks like nothing is resolving, but pinging domain names resolves quickly
[17:28:07] <stack_> does postfix resolve differently somehow
[17:29:12] <stack_> or does postfix use some other method for detection? The dmz is locked down so only certain traffic can get out
[17:30:29] <robtone_> does openbsd use chroots?
[17:30:36] <robtone_> (resp. do you use chroots?)
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[17:32:45] <rob0> hosts(5) in chroot
[17:32:49] <rob0> ah
[17:32:55] <stack_> robtone_: ah, yes it does
[17:33:16] <Dominian> rob0: You ever done conditional or know someone that has done conditional greylisting based on spam scores with postfix?
[17:33:20] <stack_> look at that, resolv.conf in /var/spool/postfix/etc
[17:33:29] <rob0> "spam scores"?
[17:33:43] <rob0> you mean like suspicious looking rDNS?
[17:34:12] <stack_> connections now work immediately.
[17:34:18] <Dominian> rob0: Well, I'm thinking of changing my greylisting around from greylisting everything to doing conditional greylisting based on spam score
[17:34:31] <Dominian> rob0: although.. not sure if that's a good idea
[17:34:48] <stack_> robtone_, rob0, thanks for your help
[17:34:51] <rob0> Greylisting after DATA? No, I wouldn't do that.
[17:35:03] <robtone_> welcome.
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[17:35:26] <Dominian> rob0: the only way I can think of doing it would be uxing exim haha
[17:35:44] <rob0> But, greylisting suspicious-looking rDNS is a good idea.
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[17:37:21] <rob0> like, only hosts with numeric name parts, hosts without rDNS, hosts with names containing strings like "pool", "dsl", et c.
[17:37:48] <Dominian> it does that already
[17:37:52] <Dominian> but.. greylists everyone
[17:37:53] <Dominian> hehe
[17:37:54] * xpoint uses postfwd with succes
[17:37:59] <Dominian> so it greylists everything
[17:38:35] <Dominian> xpoint: interesting
[17:38:40] <Dominian> so you don't necessarily use greylisting
[17:39:55] <xpoint> Dominian, as rob0 say greylist when client name is not whitelisted or unknown (no reverse hostname)
[17:40:07] * Dominian nods
[17:40:27] <Dominian> I may look into that.. it looks complicated lol
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[17:41:06] <xpoint> postfwd cant do greylist on its own, but supports postfix restrictions classes
[17:42:57] <xpoint> Dominian, i find life even more complicated then mailservers :)
[17:43:19] <Dominian> heh
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[17:46:06] <xpoint> Dominian, id=RBL_002  ;  HIT_dnsbls>=2             ;  action=554 5.7.1 blocked using $$DSBL_count dnsbls, INFO: [$$DSBL_text] < bug in this line, changes to id=RBL_002  ;  HIT_dnsbls>=2             ;  action=554 5.7.1 blocked using $$HIT_dnsbls dnsbls, INFO: [$$DSBL_text] fixes it :)
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[17:48:16] <Dominian> ahhh
[17:49:15] <rob0> Dominian, it IS a bit complicated, yes. You use restriction_classes to define various restrictions you might want to use, then branch from a check_client_access lookup.
[17:49:31] <rob0> restriction_classes are a lot like a programming language
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[17:50:29] <Dominian> I'll just keep greylisting
[17:50:32] <rob0> The main benefit is to reduce the greylisting delays for most legitimate hosts.
[17:50:35] <Dominian> less complicated
[17:50:35] <rob0> yeah
[17:50:57] <Dominian> and if your email server is broken and doesn't handle temp fail reject codes properly.. fix your shit
[17:51:03] <rob0> legitimate hosts get through eventually
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[17:52:04] <Dominian> aye
[17:52:12] <Dominian> and after greylisting is running for a while.. things go quite smoothly
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[18:04:12] <vice-versa> I was recently brought in on an interesting greylisting/firewall issue where a mail server was getting pounded by a poorly designed mobile text to email system from a cellular provider
[18:04:57] <vice-versa> mail server greylisted text to mail relay, text to mail relay system goes ballistic trying to deliver, trips firewall rate limiting rules, text to mail relay system goes even more ballistic trying to deliver via addition fallback relays....
[18:05:12] <vice-versa> wasn't very pretty
[18:06:31] <vice-versa> this went on for over two weeks before I got involved
[18:07:26] <vice-versa> horrid smtp delivery retry logic
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[18:39:15] <snappy> Is there an alternative to using transport_maps, I want to check if the address is a specific recipient send it to localhost:10030 via smtp. I am reading that transport_maps are global and cannot be overridden. Is there another mechanism i can use?
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[18:40:02] <rob0> DNS, but that can't change the port by itself.
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[18:42:04] <snappy> Is transport the only way to change the next-hop?
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[18:44:20] <mib_ej9dhg> hey guys, im having problems getting postfix runnning properly
[18:44:42] <mib_ej9dhg> i installed postfix and cyrus and got postfix techincally running
[18:44:49] <mib_ej9dhg> but cant seems to use it
[18:45:06] <mib_ej9dhg> i touched /usr/sbin/sendmail since it didnt exist
[18:45:53] <mib_ej9dhg> is this wrong, do i need the sendmail binary to send mail with postfix?
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[18:47:34] <rob0> Perhaps snappy should spend some time in transport.5.html ... 17:41 < rob0> DNS, but that can't change the port by itself.
[18:47:49] <rob0> mib, maybe.
[18:48:21] <mib_ej9dhg> i might need sendmail?
[18:48:36] <mib_ej9dhg> is there another way to send mail locally with postfix
[18:48:45] <rob0> smtp?
[18:49:37] <vice-versa> mib_ej9dhg: the sendmail emulation binary is for compatibility for programs that my depend on it
[18:50:05] <vice-versa> the one on your system may be named sendmail.postfix
[18:50:37] <mib_ej9dhg> there is something called sendmail.sendmail on the computer
[18:51:32] <rob0> Probably you used a Postfix package from your OS. You should learn how your OS selects among multiple installed MTA's.
[18:52:02] <mib_ej9dhg> no, i got the postfix rpm off the install cd
[18:52:14] <rob0> no?
[18:52:16] <mib_ej9dhg> i installed that and cyrus since it was a dependency
[18:52:26] <rob0> Sounds like "yes" to me.
[18:52:38] <snappy> rob0: right, i'll give it a looksi
[18:53:15] <mib_ej9dhg> i mean i didnt use the OS installer to install it
[18:53:31] <rob0> perhaps you should have?
[18:53:33] <mib_ej9dhg> i copied the rpm to the desktop and installed it through the command line
[18:53:39] <mib_ej9dhg> i found snedmail.postfix btw
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[18:54:10] <mib_ej9dhg> when i run it it just does a carriage return on the command line and stays at the next line blinking
[18:54:27] <vice-versa> yup
[18:54:34] <rob0> as is typical of many Unix programs which expect to get stdin
[18:55:09] <vice-versa> mib_ej9dhg: create a symbolic link to it
[18:55:19] <mib_ej9dhg> to what
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[18:56:37] <mib_ej9dhg> im not sure what i should be linking
[18:56:53] <vice-versa> sendmail.postfix to sendmail
[18:57:14] <vice-versa> there may actually be a utility on your system to mange it
[18:57:22] <rob0> (this is probably what the OS installer would do, yes)
[18:57:37] <vice-versa> !maybe
[18:57:39] <knoba> vice-versa: "maybe" : possible/probable, but not sure
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[18:59:01] <mib_ej9dhg> ln -s /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix /usr/sbin/sendmail returns "ln: ` /usr/sbin/sendmail': File exists"
[18:59:27] <Dominian> If your install is "normal" that symlink is created by default
[18:59:51] <Dominian> ls -al `which sendmail`
[19:00:03] <vice-versa> mib_ej9dhg: because you created one with touch did you not?
[19:00:39] <mib_ej9dhg> aww, yes, forgot
[19:00:43] <mib_ej9dhg> i need to get rid of that
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[19:02:13] <mib_ej9dhg> ok, it still only returns a carriage return
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[19:04:04] <mib_ej9dhg> in #rhel they had me run ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail /etc/alternatives/sendmail*
[19:04:16] <rob0> "man sendmail" (make sure it's the Postfix version of the man page)
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[19:06:07] <mib_ej9dhg> no manual entry for sendmail
[19:06:22] <mib_ej9dhg> remember i touched /usr/sbin/sendmail
[19:06:45] <mib_ej9dhg> unless we're talking about something different
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[19:09:54] <vice-versa> mib_ej9dhg: try man sendmail.postfix
[19:10:18] <mib_ej9dhg> thats there
[19:10:36] <mib_ej9dhg> sendmail - postfix to sendmail compartibility interface
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[19:10:58] <mib_ej9dhg> compatibility*
[19:11:45] <dirkson> Hey guys. Do me a favor and help me settle an argument with my boss. We send out emails from Marvin, our webserver, using Drupal, which uses PHP's mail-sendy-thing, near as I know. Our mail server is separate from Marvin, so that when we send out email for example.com, mail.example.com will actually be on a separate server from where the email is coming out. Should this scheme present any issues to any postfix-based server we send our
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[19:14:34] <vice-versa> dirkson: truncated
[19:14:46] <dirkson>  Hey guys. Do me a favor and help me settle an argument with my boss. We send out emails from Marvin, our webserver, using Drupal, which uses PHP's mail-sendy-thing, near as I know. Our mail server is separate from Marvin, so that when we send out email for example.com, mail.example.com will actually be on a separate server from where the email is coming out. Should this scheme present any issues to any postfix-based server we send ou
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[19:14:49] <rob0> Probably, the RHEL installer would set up the symlinks for the sendmail binary AND the man page. If you're using an OS with these features, you ought to take the time to learn how to use them.
[19:14:50] <dirkson> Any better?
[19:15:20] <vice-versa> dirkson: no
[19:15:45] <dirkson> Hey guys. Do me a favor and help me settle an argument with my boss. We send out emails from Marvin, our webserver, using Drupal, which uses PHP's mail-sendy-thing, near as I know.
[19:15:46] <dirkson> Our mail server is separate from Marvin, so that when we send out email for example.com, mail.example.com will actually be on a separate server from where the email is coming out. Should this scheme present any issues to any postfix-based server we send our mail to? (Or any other email server, if anyone has that knowledge as well.)
[19:15:51] <dirkson> How about those two?
[19:16:29] <mib_ej9dhg> im not using the RHEL installer disc
[19:16:58] <mib_ej9dhg> if i use the installer disc it puts a bunch of toehr junk on the computer
[19:18:31] <rob0> dirkson, I read it all, but I can't parse a coherent question out of it.
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[19:21:36] <dirkson> rob0: Well, example.com is 208.53.151.114 . mail.example.com 67.159.26.230 . We're sending mail from 208.53.151.114. Will any receiving postfix server (Or any others, if you happen you know.) reject mail from 208.53.151.114 for some reason?
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[19:23:03] <suprsonic> can someone give me an example that would use header_checks that holds an email that wasn't sent from a specified server?
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[19:29:51] <vice-versa> suprsonic: why would you want to use header_checks over a client check?
[19:30:35] <suprsonic> cause I'm using MailScanner
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[19:36:47] <dirkson> rob0: Still incomprehensible? I'm not sure how to be much clearer...
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[19:42:46] <vice-versa> dirkson: for this to escalate to an argument with your boss you obviously have some specific concerns you're eluding
[19:43:34] <dirkson> vice-versa: Er... Such as? (It should be mentioned we're a two-man team. Any argument is an argument with the boss :) )
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[19:44:21] <vice-versa> ok, well why do *you* think this is going to be a problem?
[19:46:20] <dirkson> vice-versa: Ah! I don't. He does. He appears to think that mail sent out like this (With example.com and mail.example.com pointing to different IPs, and mail coming from example.com's IP) will fail some sort of check on the receiving end, and be rejected. Some of our mail /isn't/ going through, but I don't think it's for the same reason he does. (I'm, as yet, unsure of the reason)
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[19:50:52] <vice-versa> there could be lots of reasons why you're having delivery issues, but I doubt this would be one of them unless you're using a spf record that stipulates it shouldn't be sending mail on behalf of the domain
[19:51:11] <MrY> i use postfix to send out email, how can I modify postfix to send out a custom "ehlo" message when it attempts to send out email to other servers?
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[19:51:32] <dirkson> vice-versa: Awesome. Thank you
[19:52:09] <vice-versa> dirkson: that being said, why would you not use your mail server to relay for the web server?
[19:52:24] <sysmonk> woot? you can do that?!
[19:52:28] * sysmonk hides
[19:52:51] <sysmonk> i probably haven't helped anyone here for quite a long time, /me shoulf fix it some day
[19:53:08] <sysmonk> the real help, that is, and not !factoid kind of help :P
[19:53:20] <vice-versa> !factoid
[19:53:21] <knoba> vice-versa: "factoid" : something resembling a fact; unverified and often invented information that is given credibility because it contains words that appear to be something you think you ought to know
[19:53:26] <dirkson> vice-versa: The web server will eventually have its own mailserver. May as well test it out now, while it's under light load.
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[19:57:27] <gibson> Hi there, I am trying to implement relay recipient maps as my server is being killed by lots of spam... I have 2 questions:
[19:58:01] <gibson> 1. Is there a way to set this map only on a specific domain (the one that is being relayed to another server) as I'd like local relays to work regardless.
[19:58:26] <gibson> 2. What is the format of the map, is it username@domain or just username?
[19:58:28] <gibson> thanks!
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[19:59:01] <dirkson> vice-versa: Thanks for your help. Now to figure out why some mail, from some domains, sometimes, drops without an error.
[20:00:01] <sysmonk> gibson: user@domain
[20:04:37] <vice-versa> dirkson: np, but if you're planning on having a dedicated mta for the web server, why not implement one from the get go?
[20:05:15] <dirkson> vice-versa: Sorry, MTA? (I'm still a bit of a noob when it comes to mail, likely why we're having issues.)
[20:05:22] <gibson> sysmonk: thanks
[20:05:22] <vice-versa> !mta
[20:05:23] <knoba> vice-versa: "mta" : Mail Transfer Agent: software that facilitates the transfer of mail messages between hosts
[20:06:37] <dirkson> vice-versa: Ah! The "noob" thing is the answer to your question, I think. I've got postfix set up with debian defaults, because the thing, frankly, scares me. Lots of very arcane config.
[20:06:51] <gibson> What about my first question guys? is there a way to have the map only on a specific relayed domain?
[20:07:57] <vice-versa> dirkson: on the web server?
[20:08:41] <dirkson> vice-versa: Correct.
[20:09:22] <Niemi_> hmm, very strange logs. why my postfix log all events twice?
[20:09:48] <sysmonk> it doesn't. maybe you have your syslog misconfigured
[20:10:21] 
[20:10:24] <Niemi_> ops
[20:10:30] <dirkson> vice-versa: I need to get around to learning postfix and setting it up better... but then, I need to get around to a ton of things
[20:10:41] <vice-versa> dirkson: is this mta claiming to be a host it's not?
[20:11:04] <dirkson> vice-versa: How would I check? What does that mean?
[20:11:39] <Niemi_> yeah, mail.log and mail.debug. thx!
[20:13:32] <snappy> Is there a way to specify envelope sender/recipient in header_checks? I know headers from cleanup stage are removed. Is From: and To: sufficient to get the env sender/receiver?
[20:13:35] <vice-versa> dirkson: you stated you have another mta, mail.example.com, is the myhostname parameter for the mta on the web server set to this?
[20:13:46] <gibson> Okay, I'll rephrase - do I need to add recipients that exist on my virtual map to the relay recipient map?
[20:13:51] <dirkson> vice-versa: (PHP's send function, as I understand it, drops mail down to the mail server on the box it's located on. Therefore, postfix should be what's actually sending this mail, I think.)
[20:14:02] <gibson> or will it affect only relayed domains?
[20:14:45] <vice-versa> dirkson: probably should be something you're more sure of ;)
[20:14:57] <vice-versa> check the mail logs
[20:15:28] <dirkson> vice-versa: All the mail logs give cheery reports of how well the mail server is functioning. I'm unable to find an error, or even a useful warning
[20:16:38] <vice-versa> anything held up in the mail queues? mailq
[20:17:12] <dirkson> vice-versa: Nothing pertaining to this. I've been checking those religiously : )
[20:17:56] <dirkson> vice-versa: There are a couple of mails to AOL servers sitting around, but that's currently a Known Issue on our server. (Another thing I have yet to get around to fixing)
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[21:10:17] <cite> Finally an interesting thread on postfix-users.
[21:10:42] * seekwill searches
[21:10:58] <cite> seekwill: Oct 28 Francis SOUYRI  ( 124) Big incoming queue, slow qmgr, idle system.
[21:11:26] <cite> seekwill: Though it seems he busted the system himself by trying to perform premature optimization in the face of a queue larger than 1k.
[21:11:27] <seekwill> I must not be on the same thread...
[21:12:02] <cite> It's more interesting than "Mail client can't login to send/receive mails"
[21:12:26] <cite> Or "blacklisted, configuration problem ?"
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[22:04:45] <blindcry> so can anyone point me to the best place to ask development questions?
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[22:05:55] <blindcry> i have some questions about queue file format and pipe
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[22:18:46] <ZenithDK> hello, can someone help me debug why a remote desktop cannot send mail via my postfix server? it seems as if it cannot connect to it,so I need some help debugging where the problem is
[22:19:38] <ZenithDK> I have forwarded port 25, 465 and 995 to the server, it runs postfix with dovecot-sasl and works fine when accessed inside the network
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[22:22:09] <ZenithDK> sorry, 993, not 995
[22:24:10] <Signum> ZenithDK: does "telnet server 25" work? could be some crazy virus scanner that blocks port 25 if you are using a playstation... errr... windows
[22:25:35] <seekwill> Playstation has a virus scanner?
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[22:27:00] <Signum> seekwill: only if it's based on windows
[22:27:13] <seekwill> Playstation 3 runs Windows CE?
[22:27:27] * seekwill wonders how rumors start :/
[22:27:51] <lenscape> which control file should I be looking at to direct anything@a-mydestination-domain -> a single local mailbox?
[22:28:11] <shasta> you enjoy spam, lenscape? :)
[22:28:33] <seekwill> lenscape: You really don't want to do that
[22:28:55] <lenscape> you're assuming that this is publicly accessible
[22:29:06] <Signum> lenscape: if you really want that (good bye disk space) then it will only work for virtual domains and you should be using virtual_alias_maps
[22:29:13] <Signum> lenscape: the more spam you catch the less do I :)
[22:29:30] <seekwill> lennard: For shits and giggles, what is your use case?
[22:29:48] <lenscape> actually, my spam traps work really well.
[22:29:50] <Signum> !seen lennard
[22:29:50] <knoba> Signum: lennard was last seen in #postfix 1 day, 21 hours, 25 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <lennard> nooooo
[22:30:09] <ZenithDK> I am running Linux all over
[22:30:17] * Signum runs a nice catchall spam trap catching 64,000 spam mails per month
[22:30:21] <ZenithDK> sorry, was just preoccupied for 2 min
[22:30:36] <seekwill> Signum: That's it? :)
[22:30:37] <lenscape> Signum: thanks
[22:30:40] <Signum> ZenithDK: try the low level version with telnet
[22:31:15] <Signum> seekwill: the domain I use wasn't even intended to run as a spam trap. but it became unsuable for real-world purps.
[22:31:39] <ZenithDK> Signum: will do, 2 secs
[22:32:03] <ZenithDK> it says: "Connected to <hostname>"
[22:32:11] <seekwill> The domains I host aren't spamtraps either, but we get close to 1000 spam messages an hour :/
[22:32:15] <ZenithDK> and the escape char is mentioned
[22:32:16] <seekwill> yet still usable! :)
[22:32:49] <Signum> ZenithDK: great. so far so good. next check your logs if you see an incoming smtp session from the client
[22:33:45] <ZenithDK> but I can't type anything in
[22:33:55] <ZenithDK> it seems to just hang
[22:34:08] <ZenithDK> whereas if I type in port 80, and type EHLO e.g.
[22:34:11] <Signum> ZenithDK: uhm... could be a DNS problem on the server perhaps
[22:34:21] <ZenithDK> it prints out some apache stuff and closes the connection
[22:34:24] <Signum> ZenithDK: no warnings in your mail.log?
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[22:35:50] <ZenithDK> Signum: no, not that I can see
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[22:36:26] <Signum> ZenithDK: "postfix check" on the postfix server returns nothing?
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[22:36:57] <Signum> ZenithDK: Usually this is a sign of database backend failure, dns problems or something like that.
[22:37:07] <ZenithDK> nothing, no
[22:37:38] <ZenithDK> Signum: when I can type in "netcat hostname.org 80" and that works, but port 25 does not, it should not be a DNS problem?
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[22:38:50] <Signum> ZenithDK: If you don't get warnings/error in your mail logs then I'm puzzled
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[22:52:16] <datruth> How can I have it where I can send a email to user at mydomain dot com and it goes to user2 at mydomain dot com and usertest at msn dot com?
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[22:52:47] <suprsonic> whats an example of a FILTER transport:destination?
[22:53:11] <phantomcircuit> I specified mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/8 and am sending mail from 192.168.1.1 but the mail is being rejected, i have permit_mynetworks under smtpd_recipient_restrictions
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[22:53:52] <Signum> datruth: just use an alias pointing to two destinations
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[22:54:14] <Signum> phantomcircuit: 192.168.1.0/8 isn't really a valid network description or is it?
[22:54:30] <Signum> phantomcircuit: besides... what does the log say why the email is rejected?
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[23:03:06] <datruth> Signum: how can i do this? i used postfixadmin but its not working
[23:03:57] <Signum> datruth: sorry, I don't use postfixadmin myself. usually it's just a matter of specifying two rows in the database. "user at mydomain dot com -> user2 at mydomain dot com" and "user at mydomain dot com -> usertest at msn dot com"
[23:04:43] <ZenithDK> Signum: when I type "netcat -vvvvv hostnam.org 25" I get: hostname.org [72.125.11.73] 25 (smtp) open
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[23:05:05] <ZenithDK> but it still seems to hang, and my input does no difference
[23:05:08] <Signum> ZenithDK: Yes, I'm sure the TCP connection is open. But for some (good) reason Postfix doesn't send you a HELO header
[23:05:25] <Signum> ZenithDK: As I said. It's a problem on the postfix server. And I'm surprised that you don't get a warning message.
[23:05:52] <datruth> hrm,
[23:06:19] <ZenithDK> I get these in the mail log with some intervals, can't seem to make a connection between my netcat probing and these though: Oct 28 22:38:23 [dovecot] imap-login: Login: user=<username>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, TLS
[23:06:52] <Signum> ZenithDK: that's not directly related to postfix. no matter.
[23:07:02] <BBishop> Signum, telneting to my 25 port ddoesn't ehlo me either
[23:07:13] <BBishop> it just says 220 mail.d3xt3r01.tk ESMTP Postfix
[23:07:27] <ZenithDK> BBishop: I do not get that, which is what I want
[23:07:42] <Signum> BBishop: okay, 220 then :)
[23:07:48] <ZenithDK> BBishop: I would like a sequence like this: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_test
[23:07:57] <datruth> Signum: does that mean edit the /etc/aliases file?
[23:07:58] <BBishop> weird then
[23:08:00] <ZenithDK> so you get the 220, you EHLO back, and so on
[23:08:20] <BBishop> ZenithDK, works for me :) I don't have a problem with it
[23:08:34] <BBishop> but I was wondering about the HELO thingy ..
[23:08:37] <Signum> datruth: if it's a local domain, then yes. but I doubt it would be related to postfixadmin then. I believe postfix admin is just a frontend for a mysql-backed virtual domain thingy.
[23:09:01] <datruth> Signum: it is
[23:09:31] <ZenithDK> is there some logging I can enable? I can see my smtpd_tls_loglevel is 3, is there something like it I can enable/increase?
[23:09:33] <Signum> datruth: is mydomain.com a local or virtual domain?
[23:10:32] <datruth>  its a local domain
[23:10:34] <phantomcircuit> Signum, it says relay access denied
[23:10:58] <datruth> But i'm doing the dovcot/mysql/postfix setup
[23:11:06] <datruth> or thats the setup i have
[23:11:15] <phantomcircuit> lol nvm im an idiot
[23:11:19] <Signum> phantomcircuit: try to get your network definition right and try again.
[23:11:32] <phantomcircuit> 192.168.1.0/8 shoudl be 192.168.1.0/16
[23:11:35] <phantomcircuit> i think
[23:11:36] <phantomcircuit> lol
[23:11:40] <Signum> phantomcircuit: even that's wrong
[23:11:58] <BBishop> a /24 maybe ?
[23:12:02] <phantomcircuit> 24
[23:12:02] <Signum> phantomcircuit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIDR#CIDR_and_masks
[23:12:05] <phantomcircuit> lol
[23:12:23] <Signum> phantomcircuit: you may want to ask your network administrator for the right network.
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[23:14:12] <datruth> hrmm
[23:14:48] <ZenithDK> when I "telnet hostname.org 25" *from* the actual machine, it works
[23:15:27] <ZenithDK> and so does typing in the IP
[23:15:42] <BBishop> what's the hostname .. let us try
[23:16:11] <ZenithDK> zenith.dk
[23:16:38] <BBishop> Connected to zenith.dk.
[23:16:38] <BBishop> Escape character is '^]'.
[23:16:38] <BBishop> 220 meridian.zenith.dk ESMTP Postfix
[23:17:07] <BBishop> EHLO mail.d3xt3r01.tk
[23:17:07] <BBishop> 250-meridian.zenith.dk
[23:17:07] <BBishop> 250-PIPELINING
[23:17:10] <ZenithDK> it works for you? ARH!
[23:17:12] <BBishop> bal bla bla .. so it works :)
[23:17:28] <ZenithDK> hmm, so it must be *this* machine that is blocking it somehow
[23:17:42] <BBishop> well .. works from my remote server
[23:17:49] <BBishop> I can't connect to anything on port 25 from my computer
[23:17:50] <BBishop> :)
[23:17:51] <ZenithDK> would have taken me ages to figure out then
[23:17:59] <BBishop> are you sure you don't have a firewall or something ?
[23:18:07] <ZenithDK> this is Ubuntu
[23:18:18] <BBishop> well .. maybe your ISP is filtering
[23:18:20] <BBishop> try this out
[23:18:21] <ZenithDK> it has that upf something?
[23:18:24] <BBishop> telnet mail.d3xt3r01.tk 25
[23:18:27] <phantomcircuit> Signum, that would be me
[23:18:28] <phantomcircuit> :P
[23:18:39] <ZenithDK> this is 3.dk, a danish 3G provider
[23:18:53] <Signum> phantomcircuit: I figured. I still love to suggest that. :)
[23:18:56] <ZenithDK> they have 3 tiers of connections, let me check what tier I chose
[23:19:03] <phantomcircuit> it's /24
[23:19:04] <BBishop> dunno about them .. try telneting' to my mail server .. if it ddoesn't work .. you have filters ..
[23:20:03] <ZenithDK> it resolves the IP, but I do not get the 22
[23:20:05] <ZenithDK> 220
[23:20:07] <BBishop> I'm in Romania .. using RDS .. which filters port 25 .. my remote machine is located in another city at a ISP I work at as a tech admin
[23:20:19] <phantomcircuit> win it works now
[23:20:19] <BBishop> so .. you have filters .. congrats !
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[23:21:08] <ZenithDK> BBishop: thanks a bunch
[23:21:15] <BBishop> you welcome
[23:22:57] <ZenithDK> strange, the tier I selected is actually the one without a firewall
[23:23:07] <ZenithDK> so it would have to be on the machine then
[23:24:28] <ZenithDK> I have that ufw firewall that comes with Ubuntu, but it is not enabled
[23:24:40] <ZenithDK> so I am almost blank as to why it does not work
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[23:28:02] <ZenithDK> anyways, thanks
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[23:34:14] <BBishop> :)
[23:34:25] <BBishop> I'm out to sleep
[23:34:26] <BBishop> seeyah
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