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[00:04:03] <vice-versa> m_dige: correct again. postfix generally has sane defaults for most parameters, you can check the default value with postconf -d <config_parameter> and without the -d to see the current value
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[00:05:31] <m_dige> vice-versa: okay. Thanks for the tip
[00:05:47] <vice-versa> np, you can do multiple values too, postconf mydomain myhostname myorigin
[00:06:04] <m_dige> vice-versa: :)
[00:06:32] <vice-versa> and much more, see the postconf man page for details
[00:08:10] <m_dige> vice-versa: I will do that
[00:10:07] <vice-versa> the only parameter I would suggest you check closely is mynetworks_style and it's correlation to mynetworks, the default is subnet which may open the host up for relaying from more hosts then you may want
[00:10:25] <vice-versa> !maincf mynetworks_style
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[00:11:47] * vice-versa hands m_dige a pole and points to where the fish are...
[00:11:51] <vice-versa> !fish
[00:11:51] <knoba> vice-versa: "fish" : Give an admin a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach an admin to fish and you feed them for life. -- All new anglers, please see the following channel factoids, !tutorial !docs !basic !standard !faq !manuals !logs !debug !lvsv !virtual !smtpd!=smtp : Use '/msg knoba whatis #postfix factoid' to get the factoid details from knoba in a private message to reduce channel noise
[00:13:33] <m_dige> thanks guys
[00:18:06] <m_dige> vice-versa: How do I feed you a fish ?
[00:19:47] <vice-versa> 1 12 lb Artic Char, stuff and baked ;)
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[00:30:32] <deface> nice
[00:31:42] <sahil> hilarity does not abound; shoo, anglers.
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[01:15:47] <bosnianboy> hi All
[01:15:51] <bosnianboy> need some quick info
[01:16:16] <bosnianboy> what are possible problems with disabling rset in postfix
[01:16:35] <bosnianboy> I have a problem, with dynamic ip blocking on postfix level
[01:17:29] <bosnianboy> if connection is opened, and during that that IP is blacklisted, it won't take effect if RSET is used for another mail
[01:18:20] <bosnianboy> I could do "postfix restart", that would kill current connections
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[01:18:37] <bosnianboy> but it's kind of spartan solution :)
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[01:19:31] <bosnianboy> any1 here ?
[01:20:08] <vice-versa> yes
[01:20:21] <bosnianboy> perhaps it was connection error...
[01:20:36] <bosnianboy> I was asking of possible problems with disabling rset in postfix
[01:20:54] <vice-versa> yup
[01:21:03] <bosnianboy> I created dynamic IP blocking script
[01:21:09] <vice-versa> I wouldn't do it myself
[01:21:32] <bosnianboy> that works fine, but if the rule is applied during the session
[01:21:48] <bosnianboy> after rset it still doesn't take effect
[01:22:22] <bosnianboy> I could do 'postfix restart' instead of reload after applying the blacklist rule
[01:22:30] <bosnianboy> but it's not such a good solution
[01:22:33] <vice-versa> no
[01:22:43] <bosnianboy> any ideas ?
[01:23:10] <vice-versa> how are these 'rules' being applied?
[01:23:31] <bosnianboy> I add the IP in /etc/postfix/spamlist
[01:23:36] <bosnianboy> postmap it
[01:23:39] <bosnianboy> and reload postfix
[01:23:58] <bosnianboy> smtpd_client_restrictions = hash:/etc/postfix/spamlist
[01:24:26] <bosnianboy> /etc/postfix/spamlist : IP REJECT 550 Message
[01:25:09] <bosnianboy> am I doing something wrong ? :)
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[01:26:02] <vice-versa> so how are you determining you should add an address?
[01:26:26] <bosnianboy> I get list of IP's from mailscanner database
[01:26:43] <bosnianboy> for every IP that has sent more than 200 mails/minute
[01:29:21] <vice-versa> if it were me, I would use a local dnsbl
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[01:29:58] <bosnianboy> you think to insert them into local dnsbl list ?
[01:30:06] <vice-versa> yes
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[01:30:37] <bosnianboy> but would postfix check those rules in my case
[01:30:40] <bosnianboy> rset ?
[01:31:16] <[shg]> Poison Ivy, the lamest of the asassin tools.
[01:31:45] <[shg]> assassin?
[01:31:50] <[shg]> That's way too many s's
[01:32:16] <vice-versa> just think, ass ass in ;)
[01:32:31] <[shg]> Yeah, I was just thinking that.
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[02:39:29] <vice-versa> !anatomy
[02:39:30] <knoba> vice-versa: "anatomy" : Anatomy of Postfix (Chapter 5, The Book of Postfix) http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9454
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[02:59:11] <[shg]> I guess it's time to work on postfix again
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[05:44:23] <ashash> i want to set postfix with auth +using mbox want help
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[06:04:45] <higuita> ashash: there are many howto for setting up postfix+sasl+tls
[06:05:09] <higuita> google for it and copy paste the few commands
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[06:14:56] <ashash> higuita: thanks
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[08:03:28] <Fr0zen_> is there a good app out that allows users to do all of their filtering server side?
[08:03:51] <Fr0zen_> by filtering i mean moving stuff with this subject into this imap folder etc
[08:04:08] <Fr0zen_> i know this doesn't pertain much to postfix, but i figured someone might know
[08:07:46] <growltiger> thunderbird
[08:12:27] <Fr0zen_> i said server side...
[08:12:31] <Fr0zen_> that's what i currently do and it's a pain in the ass
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[11:26:40] <kiliko> I'm having a problem with fetchmail, when i fetch mail to my postfix server it send back a copy to the senders some times? any one knows how i could solve this?
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[13:05:44] <higuita> Fr0zen_: procmail and maildrop do that... also, dovecot with sieve can also do filtering
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[13:08:03] <sysmonk> higuita: cyrus with sieve too
[13:08:15] <sysmonk> actually, sieve is cyrus stuff, which was ported to dovecot
[13:10:35] <higuita> i have little experience with cyrus, but i belive you, cyrus is alot older than dovecot, so more time to add needed features :)
[13:12:15] <sysmonk> higuita: cyrus invented sieve actually
[13:12:35] <sysmonk> and yeah, cyrus is a lot older than dovecot, and i <3 cyrus :P
[13:15:48] <cite> Some people like a good spanking - it doesn't necessarily mean that a good spanking is a good thing. Same for Cyrus, I guess ;-)
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[14:13:33] <Zoiah> Does postfix support a command to include the contents of another file in main.cf? I'm used to a command like 'include' but I've not been able to find something like it in http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html or http://postfix.wiki.xs4all.nl/
[14:14:04] <vice-versa> no
[14:14:29] <Zoiah> Is this a concious decision?
[14:14:56] <vice-versa> absolutely
[14:15:47] <Zoiah> What's the reasoning for this?
[14:16:00] <vice-versa> why do you need this capability?
[14:17:24] <Zoiah> Ease of management.
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[14:17:53] <Zoiah> I prefer to keep my custom configuration separate from distribution files.
[14:18:21] <Zoiah> And it's easier for me to keep different 'blocks' of configuration in separate files.
[14:18:38] <Zoiah> I'm just curious what the reasoning is behind the decision to not support includes.
[14:20:15] <vice-versa> there are already tools available to do what you want, man make
[14:21:17] <Zoiah> Yes, I can make a makefile that generates a main.cf from separate components.
[14:22:45] <Zoiah> But it seems like more distributions are going to a system where configuration goes into daemon.d directories and having the main configuration file include this (e.g. /etc/cron.d, /etc/php.d, /etc/httpd/conf.d, etc.). It'd be preferable to keep the various configuration methods similar.
[14:23:26] <Zoiah> Anyhow, if it doesn't support this, I'll have to make do. Thanks for your answer.
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[15:06:19] <PK> before I spend all day googling for the answer, do you know if it's possible to store incoming mails in a database rather than files in a directory? Or is there a reason why people still do that in the 21th century?
[15:08:23] <sysmonk> there are solutions like that
[15:08:27] <sysmonk> i.e. dbmail
[15:08:30] <sysmonk> !dbmail
[15:08:31] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "dbmail" is not a valid command.
[15:08:38] <sysmonk> doh, anyway, google for dbmail
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[15:09:07] <PK> ok, thanks. Is that a fork of postfix or a different development?
[15:10:00] <sysmonk> postfix is an MDA, not an lda  ( but it does have 2 little lda's called local and virtual)
[15:10:05] <sysmonk> s/MDA/MTA/
[15:10:32] <sysmonk> PK: dbmail is lda/imap/pop server, postfix is MTA
[15:11:14] <PK> ah, ok. So like currier-imap and postfix on non-db stored systems would work.
[15:13:42] <sysmonk> um, dunno what you mean
[15:13:54] <sysmonk> but anyway, postfix+{currier,cyrus,dovecot,dbmail,whatever} works
[15:13:54] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:19:12] <PK> ok, thanks.
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[17:11:14] <bebe> hello
[17:11:17] <bebe> anyone ?
[17:11:28] <adaptr> bueller ?
[17:11:32] <bebe> :]
[17:11:44] <bebe> i have installed on my ubuntu os postfix
[17:12:03] <bebe> i have ip 89.37.110.210
[17:12:12] <bebe> how to configure the postfix to work ?
[17:12:32] <bebe> also i own domain name bebelushul.info
[17:13:02] <adaptr> !basic
[17:13:02] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[17:13:07] <adaptr> start there
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[18:13:54] <joelsolanki> Hi all
[18:14:27] <sahil> hello.
[18:14:41] <joelsolanki> i have a postfix running in lan for sending out emails but for few email ids like joel at example dot com i want to have it locally routed the mail.
[18:15:01] <joelsolanki> means mail sended from local lan to joel at example dot com should deliver the mail on that server itself.
[18:15:13] <joelsolanki> i dont want to route complete domain just few email accounts.
[18:15:29] <joelsolanki> and other email accounts which are not listed in config that should be sent out to internet.
[18:15:37] <joelsolanki> possible ?
[18:15:55] <joelsolanki> i was thinking to make changes in aliases joel at example dot com --> joel
[18:16:01] <joelsolanki> i dont know if that works
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[18:19:29] <adaptr> joelsolanki: if that domain exists on you rserver then it will deliver those addresses locally
[18:19:59] <joelsolanki> no the main mail server is at different location.
[18:20:35] <joelsolanki> example.com is hosted at usa and our client is in australia. but they have postfix for sending mail.
[18:20:56] * sysmonk tries to read joelsolanki nick
[18:20:59] <joelsolanki> they dont want to waste bandwidth so they are asking for few email ids where mails should be routed locally if sent thru that postfix box
[18:21:35] <joelsolanki> so that they dont want to fetch the mail from usa server again
[18:22:02] <sahil> transport_maps
[18:22:13] <sahil> or virtual_alias_maps
[18:22:18] <sahil> you need some_sort_of_maps
[18:22:18] <sahil> :P
[18:22:43] <joelsolanki> hmm.
[18:23:13] <sahil> anyway, gotta run; if you're still having problems in a few hrs, i'll take a look.  otherwise, SYSMONK can help!
[18:23:22] <joelsolanki> ok.
[18:23:37] <sysmonk> sahil: ...
[18:23:47] <sysmonk> sure i can, for an extra fee!
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[18:24:42] <joelsolanki> just googling for exact options to have it changed.
[18:24:45] <joelsolanki> any idea sysmonk ?
[18:24:58] <sysmonk> joelsolanki: how much ya paying? :P
[18:25:20] <joelsolanki> :)
[18:25:37] <sysmonk> what? nothing? then i have exactly that much ideas! :)
[18:26:08] <joelsolanki> if my company would pay then i would be happy to forward you.
[18:26:16] <joelsolanki> unfortunately. they wont. hehe
[18:26:46] <sysmonk> then quit! :)
[18:28:32] <joelsolanki> :)
[18:28:53] <joelsolanki> hehe this irc has gone commercial :)
[18:29:01] <sysmonk> no it's not
[18:29:16] <sysmonk> i'm just not in the mood, but everyone else should be in mood
[18:29:29] <joelsolanki> i know just kidding.
[18:29:37] <joelsolanki> just googling on fixing this stuff.
[18:29:49] <joelsolanki> where are you  from ?
[18:30:28] <sysmonk> lithuania
[18:31:43] <joelsolanki> oh ok
[18:31:45] <joelsolanki> india
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[18:43:53] <image_q> hello, I am trying to send emails with php, I am easily able to send emails to gmail, hotmail and yahoo, but cannot send to my college email address, I set my filter to very low, but it doesn't even go to spam, it just never arrives, any help? I can show my mail.log file if needed (it does send it though)
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[18:47:35] <higuita> image_q: if the maillog says status=sent, then your system have done everything right... its the other end that must check what happend
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[18:48:34] <higuita> if there is no bounce and no message arrive to the remove email, then there is a problem somehere (that or they believe your email is spam and choose to drop it quietly)
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[18:56:27] <WilcoJR> hi guys
[18:56:53] <WilcoJR> guys how can i tell postfix *NOT* to deliver mail to certain domains i.e i wanna block people from sending mail to @gmail.com
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[19:03:51] <sahil> WilcoJR: access maps.
[19:05:13] <sahil> WilcoJR: see check_recipient_access in particular.
[19:05:28] <WilcoJR> sahil
[19:05:36] <WilcoJR> can i also do it via relay_domains ?
[19:05:44] <WilcoJR> i.e list only the domains i allow there?
[19:05:55] <higuita> WilcoJR: no!
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[19:06:19] <WilcoJR> higuita, may i ask why?
[19:06:23] <higuita> that would enable anyone to relay email via your server to those domains!!
[19:06:42] <WilcoJR> no
[19:08:16] <WilcoJR> higuita, what i want to do is that the postfix server will ALLOW all hosts on mynetworks to send only to the relay_domain
[19:08:27] <WilcoJR> if i limit relay_domains to @gmail.com
[19:08:34] <WilcoJR> this will allow them to send only to gmail.com?
[19:10:13] <higuita> relay_domains is a options that tell that "this server will relay emails for (domain list) for everyone"
[19:10:44] <higuita> what you want is check_recipient_access before the permit_mynetworks
[19:11:23] <WilcoJR> ok
[19:11:27] <WilcoJR> i'll check that
[19:12:09] <WilcoJR> higuita, why do you say that relay_domain will realy for domain list for everyone if i limit who can relay via mynetworks?
[19:13:06] <higuita> because the mynetworks says: "this (ips) can relay to everywhere"
[19:13:07] <WilcoJR> hmm
[19:13:20] <WilcoJR> but these IPs are my internal network IPs
[19:13:26] <WilcoJR> only a specific subnet that i want can relay anywhere
[19:13:29] <WilcoJR> via this server
[19:13:36] <WilcoJR> but only to a domain list i will specifiy
[19:13:45] <higuita> and relay_domains says "this server will relay from everyone, when the recipent is one of the domains"
[19:14:09] <WilcoJR> hmmm
[19:14:10] <WilcoJR> i see
[19:14:35] <higuita> ie: the relay_domain have nothing to to with mynetworks, its a special option usually use by secundary MX server
[19:15:15] <higuita> those server will not be the final destination for those domains, but will queue email for then if needed
[19:18:25] <WilcoJR> ic thanks
[19:18:37] <WilcoJR> higuita, if i understand the docs correctly
[19:18:42] <WilcoJR> i need to define an access table
[19:19:09] <higuita> yes
[19:19:35] <WilcoJR> then do smtpd_recipient_restrictions  = check_recipient_access ??
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[19:25:29] <Zitter> is there a way to test my postfix sending email from bash?
[19:27:59] <vice-versa> echo "testing my postfix server" | sendmail -f sender at domain dot com recipient at domain dot com
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[19:30:07] <vice-versa> if you want to test with a file attachment
[19:30:10] <vice-versa> !attachment
[19:30:11] <knoba> vice-versa: "attachment" : A bash script that encodes a file as a MIME email message attachment that can be piped into postfix's sendmail emulation binary from the command line or within scripts. http://linuxnet.ca/postfix/attachment
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[19:34:25] <Zitter> no, it doesn't work :(
[19:37:07] <higuita> WilcoJR: yes, that is the more usual way
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[19:37:47] <higuita> mutt -a file -s subject to@domain will test
[19:38:00] <higuita> nail will also work witn the same line
[19:38:19] <higuita> mail is the same, except the -a part, as it doesnt allow attachs
[19:38:47] <higuita> but all of then will put the email in the pickup queue, will not test the local smtp delivery
[19:38:52] <WilcoJR> higuita, thanks for the tips -it works
[19:39:01] <WilcoJR> but how do i make it stick for a SINGLE domain
[19:39:02] <higuita> for that, test your self with the telnet ip 25
[19:39:13] <Zitter> I would like to send email (only send... because my website) from my homemade-server (named using dyndns.org service) but it seems impossible to me. Any simple tutorial to do that?
[19:39:16] <WilcoJR> what happens is that domains that are not in the ACCESS database are given access
[19:39:33] <higuita> smtpd_recipient_restrictions  = check_recipient_access, reject
[19:39:47] <WilcoJR> whats the last reject for ?
[19:40:05] <higuita> this way, the default will be reject all that isnt allowed in that access map
[19:40:06] <WilcoJR> to reject everything which is not in access table ?
[19:40:12] <WilcoJR> awesome
[19:40:14] <WilcoJR> let me try
[19:40:18] <higuita> the last is just the word reject
[19:40:53] <higuita> !basic
[19:40:54] <knoba> higuita: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[19:41:02] <higuita> Zitter: start here
[19:45:35] <Zitter> higuita, is it better to start from there or trying to configure postfix as a "smarthost" for a gmail (for example) account?
[19:45:52] <googlah> Zitter: with mail()? (php)
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[19:46:02] <Zitter> googlah, yes
[19:46:39] <Zitter> I need postfix only for this, at this moment :|
[19:48:22] <googlah> you almost need no configuration to have postfix to send.. set "relayhost" and you're almost set
[19:49:00] <Zitter> also if my provider doesn't permit to send emails without auth?
[19:49:47] <googlah> normally you need to auth with a user and pass? :p
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[19:51:16] <googlah> then I'm not sure. but should be some relay_user parameter. perhaps.
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[19:57:00] <WilcoJR> higuita, thanks alot for your help! works wonderfully!
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[20:19:06] <sahil> I hope WilcoJR is not an admin for any legitimate site. :P
[20:21:05] <[shg]> That's a pretty bad insult.
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[20:55:03] <sahil> [shg]: aw
[20:55:35] <thumbs> sahil: there are tons of idiots like that that admin real sites, unfortunately.
[20:56:23] <sahil> thumbs: unfortunate indeed. :(
[20:56:33] <sahil> i was being tongue-in-cheek but [shg] appears to have taken offense.
[20:57:07] <[shg]> lol
[20:57:09] <[shg]> I was joking
[20:57:16] <[shg]> I wasn't even here for the conversatoin
[20:57:18] <[shg]> sation
[20:57:39] <[shg]> * Set by f3ew on Thu Aug 14 08:58:41
[20:57:39] <[shg]> <sahil> I hope WilcoJR is not an admin for any legitimate site. :P
[20:57:39] <[shg]> <[shg]> That's a pretty bad insult.
[20:57:41] <[shg]> :P
[20:58:00] <sahil> :-)
[21:06:17] <Haris> Hello poeple
[21:06:28] <Haris> is raid1 slow for keeping OS + mail server queue, for say 1000 email accounts?
[21:06:37] <Haris> or does it slow down the box?
[21:15:24] <Trengo> imho, a good FS is more important
[21:16:32] <sahil> Haris: 1000 email accounts is not a lot.
[21:16:52] <sahil> and without more information about volume and/or anything else that might utilize system resources, i think raid1 is sufficient.
[21:17:10] * sahil nods to Trengo
[21:17:48] <Haris> what fs is a good fs?
[21:17:48] <Trengo> and well, raid5 is good for large files that get stripped across several disks
[21:17:54] <Haris> I'm using freebsd's own fs
[21:18:05] <Trengo> fbsd is horribly slow
[21:18:22] <Trengo> again, imho
[21:19:06] <Haris> what is faster?
[21:19:17] <Trengo> xfs
[21:19:23] <Trengo> never tried it though
[21:22:26] * sahil disagrees
[21:22:29] <sahil> fbsd is not horribly slow.
[21:23:14] <Trengo> yes it is, i had to manage a couple mysql servers and copying datafiles across disks is like a nightmare
[21:23:59] <sahil> i haven't had problems.
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[21:24:05] <sahil> UFS is just fine for all our boxes here.
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[21:26:41] <Trengo> copying like 20GB took 90m
[21:27:16] <Trengo> then i thought it didnt have softupdates on
[21:27:18] <Trengo> it did :s
[21:27:50] <Haris> was it an IDE disk?
[21:27:56] <Trengo> scsi
[21:43:28] <[shg]> Of course it wasn't ide
[21:43:46] <[shg]> Noone uses ide anymore :P
[21:44:08] <[shg]> Die ide, DIE!
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[21:51:16] <Trengo> i still have machines around with ide disks
[21:51:31] <Trengo> and ide is better than sata
[21:51:40] <Trengo> at least they die less
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[21:58:07] <[shg]> Let us all us SSIDE :D
[21:59:22] <Zitter> i'm following this tutorial: http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html to configure postfix with my gmail account. now, i've  modified sasl_passwd in /etc/postfix and  convert it with postmap /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd. but when I run a simple hash test with "postmap -q [smtp.gmail.com] sasl_passwd" the response is nothing
[21:59:24] <Zitter> any hint?
[21:59:34] <Zitter> i'm on debian
[22:02:29] <sahil> heh
[22:03:50] <sahil> Zitter: hint, it has to do with the brackets.
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[22:05:23] <Zitter> sahil, i've removed... but the result doesn't change
[22:05:41] <Zitter> and, anyway thanks for the hint :P
[22:05:47] <sahil> what do you mean?
[22:06:01] <sahil> postmap -q \[smtp.gmail.com\] sasl_passwd *does* work.
[22:06:07] <sahil> i just tested it.
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[22:07:13] <sahil> and you don't need the brackets even though you specify them in relayhost in your main.cf; in the sasl_passwd, you can just list smtp.gmail.com or whatever IP you choose, sans brackets.
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[22:08:59] <Zitter> i've done but it doesn't work, sorry
[22:09:34] <Zitter> i mean: the output of postmap -q smtp.gmail.com sasl_passwd is nothing
[22:09:50] <Zitter> and i've removed brackets too, in sasl_passwd
[22:10:14] <sahil> then you're doing something else wrong.
[22:10:22] <sahil> without more information, i cannot help; good luck.
[22:10:57] <sahil> but i do hope you postmap'd again after removing the brackets *before* doing the postmap -q test.
[22:12:42] <Zitter> yes
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[22:39:44] <[shg]> I'm still getting a warning: valid_hostname from postfix/virtual
[22:39:51] <[shg]> Anyone new have any ideas?
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[22:42:15] <[shg]> http://co.mmunity.us/maillog
[22:42:20] <[shg]> http://co.mmunity.us/postconf-n
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[23:42:48] <mmitch> i'm piping incoming mail to a python script on ubuntu (hardy) through /etc/aliases.  I'm getting permission errors in the scirpt when postfix executes it. I added the user the script (and python) is running as to the postfix group but still no luck. any suggestions?
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