[00:00:34] <stainer> any ideas as to why "user"/Maildir/.Sent creates with a -rw- permision rather than the drwx permission that all the other directories create with?
[00:00:43] <vice-versa> or maybe macke that last one a cp instead of mv
[00:01:38] <vice-versa> stainer: sounds imapish
[00:02:21] <stainer> k, I think I am running courier :)... I was able to solve one problem by myself today
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[00:14:09] <locohost_lt> thank you gus so much for your help
[00:14:13] <locohost_lt> i got it working now
[00:14:26] <Trengo> amazing
[00:14:29] <Trengo> what did it?
[00:15:32] <locohost_lt> sudo yum remove qmail && sudo up2date -i sendmail
[00:16:08] <Trengo> RHEL?
[00:16:42] <vice-versa> locohost_lt: your change control ticket got approved rather quickly ;)
[00:17:17] <Trengo> i'd stick it on the "not working" ticket and close it "fixed"
[00:18:09] <locohost_lt> shh
[00:18:50] <Trengo> and blame it on who installed qmail
[00:18:57] <Trengo> when it wasnt required
[00:19:06] <locohost_lt> thats erics fault!
[00:19:30] <Trengo> thats all that matters, there's a guilty someone
[00:20:48] <vice-versa> s/someone/someone else/ ;)
[00:21:42] <locohost_lt> i said i was able to resolve it by modifying the mail configuration, hehe
[00:21:44] <locohost_lt> nice and generic
[00:22:26] <locohost_lt> if anyone asks me, ill tell em, heh
[00:23:12] <Trengo> vice-versa right! :)
[00:23:19] <vice-versa> "I was able to resolve it by running a few simple commands" :)
[00:24:11] <locohost_lt> well, thats about everyting.
[00:24:33] <locohost_lt> my last 16 months of work all come together tonight, between midnight at 6am
[00:24:40] <locohost_lt> moving a datacenter......
[00:25:16] <vice-versa> and real generic, by the time someone asks what you did when looking to point fingers, "Umm, I forget now. Why?
[00:25:21] <vice-versa> "
[00:25:39] <locohost_lt> doing the bgp cuttover at midnight, sans are snap mirroring over the web every 5m
[00:25:44] <Trengo> "i tried not to blame on management, i hid the details"
[00:26:01] <Trengo> what kinda sans?
[00:26:04] <locohost_lt> shutdown all services, do one last snapmirror......start on the other side
[00:26:06] <locohost_lt> netapp
[00:26:16] <locohost_lt> 2 n7700s on both ends
[00:27:07] <Trengo> we're on EMC
[00:27:19] <locohost_lt> also have to n5600s, a ds4800 and a ds300 for logs
[00:27:38] <locohost_lt> one of our netapp consultants used to work for emc
[00:28:06] <Trengo> heh :)
[00:28:26] <locohost_lt> the netapp software is called "ontap"
[00:28:38] <locohost_lt> and all their releases are named after different beers
[00:28:43] <locohost_lt> thats my fav part about netapp
[00:28:46] <Trengo> you mirror them across the internet?
[00:29:04] <locohost_lt> yes, over a gigabit qwest pipe
[00:29:16] <Trengo> shite
[00:29:29] <locohost_lt> we shipped the san down, for the first meer
[00:29:31] <locohost_lt> mirror
[00:29:33] <Trengo> how far off are the two sites?
[00:29:36] <locohost_lt> then, do incrementals over the internet
[00:29:48] <locohost_lt> NY ---> GA
[00:29:58] <Trengo> fsck
[00:30:09] <Trengo> we did that but was like 20km away :s
[00:30:21] <Trengo> just moved the machines
[00:30:32] <locohost_lt> file level copies were to slow, snapmirror is blocklevel
[00:30:56] <Trengo> they are too slow
[00:31:14] <Trengo> it takes me 4/5h to copy 100GB across
[00:32:09] <locohost_lt> the hard part will be copying over the "big mail customer" next month
[00:32:28] <locohost_lt> 40 maildrops with 2tb store each
[00:32:41] <locohost_lt> 1.6m users with unlimited quotas
[00:32:50] <Trengo> oh god
[00:33:02] <Trengo> im sweating and its not my servers :s
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[00:39:04] <locohost_lt> yeah, we use zimbra for that
[00:39:46] <locohost_lt> i wish we could delete the 40g uses who have 18m peices of clip art in their inbox
[00:40:05] <Trengo> i added that to terms
[00:40:34] <Trengo> we reserve the right to autocleanup spam and trash folders after a month
[00:40:53] <locohost_lt> those folders get drimmed ever 14 days
[00:41:02] <Trengo> no need so far though
[00:41:31] <Trengo> and i wanted to be able to remove old mail but they dont let me :(
[00:41:39] <locohost_lt> i want to trim inbox at 180 days, so you have to move it to a folder to save it 4ever
[00:44:28] <Trengo> hm
[00:46:07] <locohost_lt> ganna have to at some point
[00:46:45] <locohost_lt> what happens to the 40gig user in 4 years, when they keep getting thousands of clip art attatchments from every google and yahoo group taht exists
[00:47:13] <locohost_lt> well, their box will be up to 250g by then
[00:47:45] <locohost_lt> we need to say "virtually unlimited" rather then unlimited
[00:47:57] <locohost_lt> as in "holy crap, 5g is a lot, thats virtually unlimited"
[00:49:47] <vice-versa> force them to clean house by building in an artificial limitation that makes their mail slow as molasses once it exceeds a certain quota ;)
[00:51:19] <locohost_lt> yeah, with thousands of users that big, our bottle neck is for sure disk io
[00:51:57] <locohost_lt>  whomever invented "leave a copy of the message on the server" should be dragged into the street adn shot
[00:54:11] <locohost_lt> alrighty, thanks again, im ganna run out and get a nice dinner before tonight
[00:54:15] <locohost_lt> maybe swordfish
[00:58:24] <Trengo> swordfish??
[00:58:28] <Trengo> where are you?
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[01:21:32] <gnot> hello all. I try to resolve an issue with postfix, an smtp proxy and spamassassin. Here is the problem:
[01:22:39] <gnot> spamassassin has the bayes and auto learn capabilities turned on, so it some times takes a long time to complete the email processing. This is fine as the system is low traffic.
[01:23:28] <gnot> a timeout of 180sec has been configured for the SMTP proxy
[01:24:26] <gnot> but sometimes i see in the logs that the smtp proxy kills the connection to spamd before the 180 sec period. Maybe i need to set a proper timeout in postfix main.cf
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[01:25:45] <gnot> what i actually ask is: which postfix directive do i use?
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[02:28:02] <karmapolis> Hello all. I have a problem with sender-dependent relayhosts. I'm using the stock postfix-2.3.3-2.1.el5_2 RPM that comes with CentOS 5.2 . My postconf -n can be seen at http://pastebin.com/d45af96f3 . My maps can be seen at http://pastebin.com/d5d35e518 . This system is purely a relaying gateway whose purpose is scanning emails with Amavisd and ClamAV. It acts as a gateway for another internal mail server located on a different host. All non-internal m
[02:28:02] <karmapolis> yhost (USANET's smtp.postoffice.net), which requires the use of SASL. My configuration works fine when the sender explicitly appears in my sender-dependen relayhost map and in my SASL password map.
[02:28:14] <karmapolis> But my problem appears when the sender is not present there.
[02:28:15] <karmapolis> This can happen because sometimes my internal mail server hosts an alias that
[02:28:15] <karmapolis> expands into some non-local addresses. So when xxx at yyy dot zz sends mail to this
[02:28:15] <karmapolis> local alias a copy ends up trying to be relayed through my Postfix to those
[02:28:15] <karmapolis> non-local addresses.
[02:28:38] <karmapolis> Since those non-local addresses do not appear in my SASL password map, I cannot send mail to them through USANET. I want to send mail to them through a different SMTP relay I have at Verio, without having to list them explicitly.
[02:29:02] <karmapolis> I figured I should put a relayhost parameter pointing to my Verio relay (relayhost = [veriosmtp.net])since Postfix documentation says sender-dependent relayhost map takes precedence over that parameter. But it doesn't seem to be working that way, because if I putthat relayhost then ALL my non-local mail ends up going through Verio (the sender-dependent relayhost map that points to USANET for my local senders gets ignored!).
[02:30:17] <karmapolis> And since I've read the sender-dependent relayhost map does not accept wildcards, I'm stuck.
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[05:17:09] <WDC> Can anyone help me with a "Relay access denied" error?
[05:17:58] <WDC> Anyone out there at all?
[05:18:12] <vice-versa> yup, ask away
[05:18:22] <googlah> Just ask
[05:18:22] <WDC> Okay I get the error when sending from CLI and Outlook
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[05:19:47] <vice-versa> is that all you're offing up?
[05:20:03] <googlah> What does your mail.log file say?
[05:20:07] <vice-versa> s/offing/offering/
[05:20:10] <WDC> I have GOogled and tried countless things, but they always create new problems
[05:20:10] <WDC> Hello?
[05:20:39] <vice-versa> !relay_denied
[05:20:40] <knoba> vice-versa: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
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[05:21:27] <googlah> If.. you're trying from CLI, make sure you're "mynetworks" is listening for 127.0.0.0/8 at least
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[05:25:36] <WDC_> Sorry about that
[05:26:03] <WDC_> vice-versa: ?
[05:26:15] <vice-versa> yes?
[05:26:21] <WDC_> Okay sorry
[05:26:32] <WDC_> I found the log, but it doesn't say anything about what is wrong
[05:26:42] <WDC_> It just finds me trying to send a messgae and a relay error
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[05:27:52] <vice-versa> postconf mynetworks
[05:28:09] <WDC> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128
[05:30:01] <vice-versa> postconf smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[05:33:34] <vice-versa> WDC: I guess it wouldn't be much of a stretch to assume you're not actually using ipv6, correct?
[05:39:19] <googlah> Wouldn't think so either.. so for easiness, just leave 127/8 on there. hope u fixing it, gotta go
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[05:58:43] <WDC> I have spent 2 hours on ONE ERROR, "Relay ACcess Denied" And nothing works. Will someone please help me?
[05:59:49] <WDC> Hello anyone?
[06:00:33] <WDC> ugh
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[06:03:12] <vice-versa> pffft, wasn't for the lack of trying
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[08:54:54] <m0niker> hello all
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[13:38:18] <Ifot> hello friends
[13:38:29] <Ifot> got a little question for Postfix smtp auth
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[13:40:54] <Ifot> anybodyhere to help?
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[13:44:02] <lera_zed> hello, i am trying to setup postfix to use alias_maps from ldap, i am using this query_filter - query_filter = (cn=%s) - however in slapd logs i see that postfix is using  (cn=onwer-%s), what could be wrong ?
[13:47:26] <cite> I think your observations are flawed.
[13:47:45] <lera_zed> cite: what do you mean ?
[13:48:07] <cite> What was the slapd logline that led you to believe postfix was using the query_filter you cited?
[13:48:36] <lera_zed> cite: moment i'll pastebin piece of log somewhere
[13:49:23] <cite> While you are at it, post the output of "postconf -n | grep alias_maps", too
[13:49:40] <lera_zed> sure
[13:50:58] <lera_zed> cite: http://pastebin.ca/1219802
[13:52:42] <lera_zed> cite: http://pastebin.ca/1219803 - same + ldap-aliaces.cf
[13:54:13] <cite> So what was the actual mai ltransaction which led to the above query? I.e., how did you send/receive that mail to your local Postfix installation?
[13:54:44] <lera_zed> echo "hello" | mail v.masutin at xxxx dot xx
[13:56:24] <cite> Are there any virtual_alias_maps involved in your setup? Any transport_maps? Any generic maps?
[13:56:58] <lera_zed> cite: hold on, i'll update pastebin with relevant stuff from main.cf
[13:59:07] <lera_zed> http://pastebin.ca/1219807
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[14:01:16] <cite> Well, TBH, I'm out of ideas.
[14:02:56] <lera_zed> cite: the weird thing that it prepends searches with "owner-" only for cn attribute :\
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[14:12:00] <lera_zed> cite: damned, it works as it should if i am using postmap from commandline :\
[14:12:51] <cite> lera_zed: Then something else, vor examle in /etc/aliases, is interfering.
[14:13:03] <cite> lera_zed: Edit master.cf, add "-v" to the trivial-rewrite entry.
[14:13:20] <cite> lera_zed: This will activate debugging output.
[14:13:27] <lera_zed> cite: thanks
[14:17:07] <sysmonk> or, you could read !debug
[14:17:10] <sysmonk> !debug
[14:17:11] <knoba> sysmonk: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[14:17:50] <sysmonk> also, grepping for warn|crit in maillog is the first thing anyone should do
[14:19:06] <cite> Anyone here know how to reach devdas via mail? I remember he once had a problem with master(8) and qmgr(8) freezing, too, not unlike the problem I'm facing ATM.
[14:19:27] <sysmonk> he had that problem maybe a month ago
[14:19:32] <sysmonk> if iirc
[14:19:44] <sysmonk> wietse offered a patch afair
[14:19:56] <cite> Ah, so I will find it on postfix-users.
[14:19:58] <cite> Thanks.
[14:20:03] <sysmonk> yup
[14:20:19] <sysmonk> but he had the freeze under some heavy loads afair
[14:20:39] <cite> The really weird thin is that my concurrenzy levels are not neraly as high as he told me here in #postfix.
[14:21:10] * sysmonk didn't read your problem description so i don't know what you're talking about
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[14:22:00] <cite> Lot's of errors like 'problem talking to private/anvil", "problem talking to private/scache", and then "qmgr/master: watchdog timeout".
[14:22:54] <sysmonk> and anything more in debuging mode?
[14:23:16] <cite> No, qmgr and master simply freeze.
[14:23:43] <cite> I even went through te trouble of looking into the postfix source, and that cannot happen.
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[14:24:09] <cite> Communication with those subsystems mentioned in the first two error messages I cited is done using non-blocking writes to the I/O buffer.
[14:24:19] <cite> It's impossible anything freezes there.
[14:24:28] <cite> It just can't happen.
[14:25:05] <cite> Ah, I found the thread on postfix-users.
[14:26:08] <sysmonk> afair it's something familiar to your problem
[14:27:09] <cite> Yes, even the timescale is the same.
[14:27:23] <cite> But I don't run any service with a concurrency_limit of 1000
[14:27:44] <cite> I have a maxproc of 250 for smtpd, that's all.
[14:29:03] <cite> I barely get mor than 150 connects per second, and seldom more than 10 million connects per day.
[14:29:16] <cite> The box is idling all day.
[14:33:00] <cite> I'm THAT dumb.
[14:33:17] <cite> Setting somaxconn is something I _always_ forget.
[14:33:18] <cite> Nvm the noise.
[14:33:27] <sysmonk> :)))
[14:34:25] <sysmonk> happens
[14:35:11] <cite> But - *nag* *nag* - the way those errors manifest themselves in the log is bloocks :-P
[14:35:19] <cite> bollocks*
[14:35:36] <sysmonk> i wonder ir kern.* had some messages related
[14:35:47] <sysmonk> + if there would be any if debuging would be turned on
[14:37:10] <cite> Good question. Will set up a virtual machine and test that out.
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[14:42:11] <WDC> Hello
[14:42:21] <WDC> I have a "Relay Access denied" error
[14:42:43] <WDC> Can anyone help?
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[14:58:04] <WDC> Anyone out there?
[14:58:11] <sysmonk> !relay_denied
[14:58:12] <knoba> sysmonk: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[14:58:16] <sysmonk> WDC: ^^
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[15:04:13] <WDC> sysmonk: Thanks for the response, but I have tried all that
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[15:08:46] <sysmonk> i'm 99.99% sure you didn't
[15:09:47] <lera_zed> cite:  ugh, oh silly me :\ i found what was the problem
[15:10:22] <vice-versa> WDC: geebus, this is going on three days now
[15:10:51] <sysmonk> vice-versa: :))
[15:10:56] <vice-versa> hey sysmonk
[15:10:58] <lera_zed> cite: i did not set up neither virtual delivery, nor local account for user whom delivery was ment
[15:11:07] <sysmonk> vice-versa: morning/evening/whatever to you too
[15:11:32] <vice-versa> morning here, same to you
[15:11:55] <lera_zed> cite: and postfix tried his own tricks to save situation :)
[15:12:05] <WDC> vice-versa: Sorry, but it;s frustrating
[15:12:07] <WDC> Can you help?
[15:12:28] <WDC> I Can send to myself (ender at ender dot ath.cx) but when I send to any other domain, relay error
[15:12:39] <WDC> BUT, I can send to anything from telnet
[15:12:47] <sysmonk> so, you don't have your ip in mynetworks OR sasl set up
[15:12:57] <vice-versa> WDC: possibly, that is if you can stay connected long enough
[15:12:57] <WDC> I think it's sasl
[15:13:08] <WDC> How do I do sasl?
[15:13:10] <WDC> Here's my config
[15:13:27] * sysmonk waits for a 500+lines paste in the channel
[15:13:28] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:13:28] <vice-versa> don't paste it in the channel!
[15:13:41] <sysmonk> yeah, that's what vice-versa query window is for
[15:13:42] <sysmonk> :P
[15:14:05] <vice-versa> oh speaking of which sysmonk
[15:14:12] <vice-versa> !sanitize
[15:14:13] <knoba> vice-versa: "sanitize" : to see sanitized output of your non-default main.cf parameters use the following: comm -13 <(postconf -d) <(postconf)
[15:14:18] <WDC> no lol
[15:14:24] <WDC> I'm pastbining
[15:14:35] <WDC> http://pastebin.ca/1219838
[15:14:51] <WDC> vice-versa: Don't hate on my internet lol
[15:15:08] <sysmonk> vice-versa: nice, except that it doesn't work in tcsh
[15:16:32] <WDC> Hello?
[15:16:36] <WDC> Did I cut out/
[15:16:43] <vice-versa> no
[15:16:49] <sysmonk> WDC: postconf -n
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[15:17:38] <WDC> http://pastebin.ca/1219839
[15:18:05] <sysmonk> WDC: neither you have sasl set up, neither you have your ip in mynetworks
[15:18:24] <WDC> sysmonk: ender.ath.cx redirects to my IP, I can put that there?
[15:18:34] <WDC> and how Do I set up Sasl
[15:18:59] <sysmonk> WDC: your ip as in your IP from which you connect to your postfix
[15:19:13] <WDC> ender.ath.cx okay
[15:20:05] <vice-versa> sysmonk: bash -c 'comm -13 <(postconf -d) <(postconf)'
[15:20:17] <sysmonk> vice-versa: bash? what's that?
[15:20:18] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:20:46] <vice-versa> it's what everyone else uses ;)
[15:20:50] <WDC> So what do I do?
[15:21:02] <WDC> I set ender.ath.cx in mynetworks, restarted, and same deal
[15:21:21] <sysmonk> vice-versa: if everybody else jumps out from a windows - it doesn't mean i should do that too :P
[15:22:18] <WDC> Hola/
[15:23:32] <WDC> vice-versa: How do I set up sasl?
[15:24:08] <vice-versa> sysmonk: if everyone else was jumping, I would at least want to know why ;)
[15:24:29] <vice-versa> !sasl
[15:24:30] <knoba> vice-versa: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[15:24:38] <sysmonk> vice-versa: cause theyre from lunix world
[15:24:43] <sysmonk> they eat to much drugs and jump out :)
[15:24:56] <vice-versa> O.o
[15:25:16] <sysmonk> :P
[15:25:25] <WDC> I have Dovecot
[15:26:41] <WDC> rRRRR.
[15:26:43] <WDC> This is hard
[15:26:49] <Hyperi> Then don't do it :)
[15:26:52] <WDC> NO! I want to
[15:26:53] <WDC> lol
[15:26:57] <Hyperi> Deciede :P
[15:26:59] <WDC> Why can I send form the CLI and not Outlook?
[15:27:05] <Hyperi> Decide*
[15:27:05] <WDC> Which sent a test message, somehow
[15:27:20] <Hyperi> Say what? oO
[15:27:21] <WDC> I can send to myself but I cannot send to other domains
[15:27:25] <WDC> In outlook
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[15:27:31] <WDC> in CLI I can send ANYTHING
[15:27:38] <Hyperi> If your mails are like that, I wouldn't want to receive any mails from you :<
[15:27:46] <WDC> lol
[15:27:59] <WDC> SHould I try POP3?
[15:28:05] <Hyperi> :'(
[15:28:30] <WDC> Nevermind
[15:28:39] <WDC> Wrong direction of email
[15:28:50] <WDC> So WHY can I not send from Outlook, but I can send from CLI?
[15:28:50] <Hyperi> Still not following you :<
[15:29:05] <WDC> So WHY can I not send from Outlook, but I can send from CLI?
[15:29:26] <Hyperi> What does your 0ut100k say?
[15:29:31] <WDC> It doesn'tr
[15:29:44] <WDC> I get a Undeliverable "Realy Access denied"
[15:30:02] <Hyperi> Exactly
[15:30:14] <WDC> ?
[15:30:20] <Hyperi> Now go to google.com and write "Relay Access Denied" +postfix
[15:30:33] <WDC> I have done this, for 3 hours now
[15:30:36] <sysmonk> Hyperi: he already got an answer for that.
[15:30:47] <Hyperi> oh
[15:30:50] <Hyperi> sysmonk: ...but? :P
[15:31:01] <sysmonk> but? he's still re-asking the question
[15:31:02] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:31:05] <Hyperi> Ah
[15:31:07] <WDC> BUT IT DOESN"T WORK!
[15:31:09] <Hyperi> ty :)
[15:31:15] <Hyperi> WDC: Don't yell if you don't work :/
[15:31:20] <WDC> sorry
[15:31:23] <WDC> Can YOU help?
[15:31:33] <Hyperi> Now you sounded like Uncle Sam XD
[15:31:37] <sysmonk> WDC: did you give us log which shows that?
[15:31:39] <sysmonk> you didn't
[15:31:42] <WDC> Hold on
[15:31:42] <sysmonk> so what can we asnwer?
[15:31:45] <Hyperi> Actually made me laugh pretty hard, ty :P
[15:31:54] <sysmonk> my guess would be you're connecting from localhost, and not from your pc.
[15:31:57] <vice-versa> Hyperi: yeah, this has been going on for like three days now
[15:32:02] <sysmonk> but hey, my cristal ball is off today
[15:32:06] <Hyperi> vice-versa: haha :)
[15:32:08] <WDC> Oct  5 05:25:07 ubuntu postfix/smtpd[29528]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from nmd.sbx08207.roswega.wayport.net[98.98.95.198]: 554 5.7.1 <lemcoe9 at bellsouth dot net>: Relay access denied; $
[15:32:19] <sysmonk> WDC: USE a pastebin
[15:32:23] <WDC> It's one line
[15:32:28] <sysmonk> and, again, i started to hate bubuntu users :P
[15:32:38] <sysmonk> WDC: sure, and where's the one you used from telnet?
[15:32:45] <WDC> Telnet works
[15:32:49] <sysmonk> SO SHOW IT
[15:32:52] <WDC> ugh
[15:32:57] <sysmonk> pastebin the logs
[15:32:59] <WDC> I've attempted so many times lol
[15:33:10] <sysmonk> attempt again and pastebin it
[15:33:37] <WDC> Now it chooses not to work
[15:33:39] <WDC> gah
[15:33:45] <WDC> 554 5.7.1 <lemcoe9 at bellsouth dot net>: Relay access denied
[15:33:47] <WDC> Hold for logs
[15:33:50] <sysmonk> oh my, so it doesn't work
[15:33:55] <sysmonk> vualla
[15:34:00] <Hyperi> But I've another problem you can help _me_ to solve :P
[15:34:02] <Hyperi> On postfix ofc
[15:34:03] <sysmonk> back to !relay_denied factoid
[15:34:08] <WDC> Same thing
[15:34:16] <WDC> sysmonk: I have tried all that
[15:34:23] <sysmonk> WDC: postconf mynetworks
[15:34:26] <sysmonk> what does it return?
[15:34:45] <WDC> mynetworks = ender.ath.cx
[15:35:00] <sysmonk> so, you are connecting from 9898.95.198
[15:35:09] <WDC> Public wifi right now
[15:35:13] <sysmonk> and you're allowed ender.ath.cx, which is 76.240.25.136
[15:35:17] <WDC> Yes
[15:35:22] <WDC> I can telnet it remotely and it works just fine
[15:35:24] <sysmonk> do you see anything wrong here?
[15:35:34] <WDC> Enlighten me
[15:35:43] <Hyperi> WDC: A != B
[15:35:45] <sysmonk> YOU allowed from 98.98.95.198, but you're connecting from 76.240.25.136
[15:35:54] <vice-versa> !tell WDC mynetworks
[15:35:54] <Hyperi> sysmonk said the same in long way :)
[15:35:55] <knoba> WDC: -> "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[15:36:10] <vice-versa> !maincf mynetworks
[15:36:12] <WDC> no the server is ender.ath.cx
[15:36:20] <sysmonk> Hyperi: you'll have to define what's A and B are for him
[15:36:26] <sysmonk> oh my
[15:36:35] <sysmonk> Hyperi: and also the difference between server and a client
[15:36:41] <sysmonk> WDC: you're a client to the server, not a server.
[15:36:46] <WDC> sysmonk: hmm
[15:36:48] <sysmonk> you have to allow your CLIENT ip to send email
[15:36:58] <WDC> I have to allow every device I want to use?
[15:37:01] <Hyperi> sysmonk: :P
[15:37:01] <WDC> Is there a catch all I can use?
[15:37:07] <Hyperi> sysmonk: aka. A != B
[15:37:13] <sysmonk> WDC: yes, if using mynetworks
[15:37:16] <sysmonk> or you can use cidr maps
[15:37:19] <sysmonk> OR you can use SASL
[15:37:24] <sysmonk> which requires authorization
[15:37:26] <vice-versa> sasl++
[15:37:30] <sysmonk> yup
[15:37:32] <WDC> No SASL, right now.
[15:37:36] <sysmonk> but i'll leave the sasl-setup-guide to vice-versa
[15:37:37] <WDC> Waht should I put in mynetworks?
[15:37:43] <WDC> what*
[15:37:44] <sysmonk> vice-versa will help you with sasl, right?
[15:37:55] <WDC> vice-versa: lol You don't have to help
[15:37:56] <Hyperi> Evil evil hare_krishna :D
[15:38:00] <sysmonk> hehe
[15:38:01] <vice-versa> sure...
[15:38:03] <vice-versa> !sasl
[15:38:04] <knoba> vice-versa: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[15:38:07] <sysmonk> haha
[15:38:09] <sysmonk> :))
[15:38:19] <sysmonk> vice-versa: you'll guide him through sasl setup, right?
[15:38:21] <WDC> Anyway, what should I put in mynetworks?
[15:38:25] <sysmonk> for the rest 4 days of your life
[15:38:28] <sysmonk> before you'll shoot yourself
[15:38:29] <sysmonk> ;P
[15:38:32] <WDC> lol
[15:38:55] <sysmonk> WDC: your clients ip which you want to allow to send emails through your server
[15:39:07] <WDC> sysmonk: But I will be in more than one place sending e-mail
[15:39:18] <WDC> sysmonk: What do I put if I want to allow everyone to send e-mail?
[15:39:22] <sysmonk> so put there all the ip's
[15:39:25] <sysmonk> OR use sasl
[15:39:34] <sysmonk> WDC: you don't want to.
[15:39:36] <WDC> There is no mynetwork, catch all I can use?
[15:39:43] <vice-versa> NO!
[15:39:46] <WDC> oh
[15:39:47] <sysmonk> you don't want to, believe me
[15:39:48] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:39:49] <WDC> okay then
[15:39:56] <WDC> vice-versa: How about that SASL lol
[15:40:02] <sysmonk> ;)))
[15:40:05] * sysmonk gets out of the chan
[15:40:06] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:40:07] <WDC> rofl
[15:40:12] <sysmonk> before vice-versa kills me :P
[15:40:40] <WDC> http://pastebin.ca/1219848
[15:40:47] <WDC> I have that in my main.cf for config
[15:41:17] * sysmonk doesn't even look at the pastebin
[15:41:50] <WDC> what
[15:42:11] <vice-versa> WDC: read the sasl documentation, pay specific attention to the dovecot bits
[15:42:38] <WDC> vice-versa: hmm
[15:43:02] <sysmonk> or sing the hare_krishna song
[15:43:02] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:43:43] <Hyperi> sysmonk: Bored? (o:
[15:44:13] <sysmonk> dunno yet
[15:44:19] <sysmonk> i'm thinking of what should i do
[15:44:22] <Hyperi> That's always dangerous question ;)
[15:44:25] <WDC> Can you all please help?>
[15:44:29] <WDC> I don't know what I should do
[15:45:09] <Hyperi> imo learn more about basic usage of *nix systems before trying a bit more advanced parts :/
[15:45:23] <WDC> Hyperi: What should I do to get this erver to work?
[15:45:33] <Hyperi> Pay someone
[15:45:36] <Hyperi> (o:
[15:45:37] <WDC> No
[15:45:41] <sysmonk> why not? ;/
[15:45:44] <vice-versa> WDC: and just to pour salt into the wounds, if you're roaming or supporting roaming users you most absolutely want to be using submission service
[15:45:45] <Hyperi> Then read lots of manuals :)
[15:45:48] <sysmonk> you don't want to read the documentation
[15:45:57] <sysmonk> so the other choice is paying someone
[15:46:08] <WDC> hmm
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[15:47:45] <WDC> Turns out
[15:47:52] <WDC> I didn't restart the server, to get the mynetworks to work
[15:47:52] <WDC> sigh
[15:47:58] <WDC> Now it works
[15:48:18] <WDC> BUT I don't want to have to change that address everytime
[15:48:20] <WDC> But, thatnks
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[15:48:54] <vice-versa> fuck, finally
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[15:49:13] <Hyperi> lol
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[15:49:32] <Hyperi> I should award him "Made Hyperi laugh twice"
[15:50:07] <Hyperi> But back to my old question, if someone is atleast some bored... could check where did I manage to misconfigure my virtual domain settings :/
[15:50:54] * vice-versa missed it during all that WDC noise
[15:51:12] <Hyperi> I'll put postconf -n on pastebin
[15:51:28] <vice-versa> good start
[15:51:39] <Hyperi> http://pastebin.com/d279d9d8b
[15:52:05] <sysmonk> and also the error you get
[15:52:15] <sysmonk> that is, the part which shows what doesn't work :)
[15:52:20] <Hyperi> Can't find virtual user
[15:52:41] <sysmonk> you don't have virtual users
[15:52:45] <sysmonk> you only have virtual aliases
[15:52:50] <sysmonk> check out virtual_mailbox_* stuff
[15:52:51] <Hyperi> urgh
[15:53:44] <Hyperi> hmm postfix example didn't have anything about that :/
[15:53:52] <Hyperi> I've accounts that are supposed to receive the mails
[15:54:23] <Hyperi> Like foo at bar dot tld hyperi
[15:54:35] <sysmonk> then thats not virtual users
[15:54:38] <sysmonk> that's virtual aliases
[15:54:51] <sysmonk> the delivery will be local
[15:55:03] <Hyperi> And I want it to take the mailbox with "home_mailbox = Maildir/" setting
[15:55:14] <Hyperi> sysmonk: mhm
[15:55:23] <Hyperi> sysmonk: Question is why it doesn't work :P
[15:56:04] <sysmonk> question is - you didn't pastebin the logs with errors + the files defined in virtual_alias_*
[15:56:36] <Hyperi> local-host-names is just each domain and subdomain on separate line
[15:56:50] <sysmonk> ok, but i need to see a real example
[15:56:53] <sysmonk> a real situation
[15:57:08] <Hyperi> Well it's like 'quick.fi' next line is 'www.quick.fi'
[15:57:11] <sysmonk> and logs, ofcourse
[15:57:15] <sysmonk> Hyperi: pastebin.
[15:57:27] <Hyperi> And virtusertable is just foo at bar dot tld account
[15:57:32] <sysmonk> Hyperi: PASTEBIN
[15:57:39] <sysmonk> don't be WDC.
[15:57:45] <Hyperi> That was just mean :<
[15:57:56] <sysmonk> Hyperi: i've asked you to pastebin those a few times already
[15:58:08] <sysmonk> logs + 2 files ( or parts of thsoe files)
[15:58:34] <Hyperi> sysmonk: virtusertable: http://pastebin.com/d32a46d5f
[15:59:22] <sysmonk> and logs?
[15:59:26] <Hyperi> sysmonk: local-host-names: http://pastebin.com/m577a52f1
[15:59:58] <sysmonk> Hyperi: i don't like the second line in virtusertable ( hyperi smo ) - no comma between those two entries.
[16:00:44] <Hyperi> sysmonk: http://pastebin.com/dfc2e3a3
[16:00:48] <Hyperi> mail.info there
[16:01:18] <Hyperi> Worked without commas :P
[16:01:21] <Hyperi> Added now tho
[16:01:40] <sysmonk> and postmap'ed the file?
[16:01:59] <Hyperi> y
[16:02:47] <sysmonk> still doesn't work?
[16:03:11] <Hyperi> noeps
[16:03:32] <sysmonk> btw
[16:03:41] <sysmonk> could you move the catchall to the end of teh file?
[16:03:53] <Hyperi> sysmonk: http://pastebin.com/d7dd7e566
[16:04:07] <Hyperi> There should be several catchalls for different domains tbh :/
[16:04:15] <Hyperi> Some domains for me, and others to my friend :/
[16:04:58] <sysmonk> and? i don't see any problem
[16:05:12] <sysmonk> that is, i don't get why are you worrying about that
[16:05:24] <vice-versa> catchalls are nothing but trouble imo
[16:05:40] <sysmonk> vice-versa: yup
[16:06:02] <sysmonk> i've got one client with catchalls enabled, and he has antispam enabled BUT only with marking
[16:06:07] <sysmonk> tagging
[16:06:13] <sysmonk> and that reaaaaly sucks ;/
[16:06:41] <Hyperi> sysmonk: Well the error is "User unknown in virtual alias table" :S
[16:06:45] <sysmonk> spam is always accepted. and catchall+ spam is urgh
[16:06:49] <sysmonk> Hyperi: SO ?
[16:06:54] <sysmonk> Hyperi: can you move the catchall entry to the end?
[16:06:59] <Hyperi> sysmonk: Sure :/
[16:07:34] <sysmonk> Hyperi: oh, and by the way, to be sure, you don't have a modified master.cf file, do you?
[16:07:58] <Hyperi> I gave you the pastebin? :)
[16:08:07] <Hyperi> From psotconf.n
[16:08:09] <Hyperi> postconf -n *
[16:08:20] <sysmonk> Hyperi: postconf analyses main.cf, not master.cf
[16:08:37] <Hyperi> Ah misread :P
[16:08:43] <Hyperi> No, I haven't touched the master.cf :)
[16:08:48] <sysmonk> k
[16:08:56] <sysmonk> so, did you move the catchall to the end of the file?
[16:08:59] <Hyperi> y
[16:09:04] <sysmonk> doesn't work?
[16:09:30] <Hyperi> Same error.
[16:09:44] <Hyperi> (And yes did postmap it :P)
[16:11:54] <sysmonk> hm
[16:11:58] <sysmonk> what's the name of the server?
[16:12:06] <sysmonk> as in `hostname`
[16:12:20] <sysmonk> ah wait i see in the logs
[16:12:21] <sysmonk> quick
[16:12:21] <sysmonk> ;)
[16:13:39] <Hyperi> :)
[16:13:58] <sysmonk> Hyperi: what's in /etc/mailname?
[16:15:19] <Hyperi> same
[16:15:22] <Hyperi> 'quick.fi'
[16:17:14] <sysmonk> ghm
[16:18:08] <sysmonk> Hyperi: just a test.
[16:18:16] <sysmonk> add a @localhost in virtualusers
[16:18:24] <sysmonk> i.e. hyperi at quick dot fi hyperi@localhost
[16:19:13] <Hyperi> hmm
[16:19:24] <Hyperi> hyperi at quick dot fi is there already? :S
[16:19:34] <sysmonk> Hyperi: replace it :)
[16:20:24] <sysmonk> comment it out and add a new line, or edit the current line, or make a copy of the file and edit the line, or ... anyway, you get the point :)
[16:20:30] <Hyperi> :P
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[16:24:08] <Hyperi> Oct  5 14:24:40 quick postfix/local[13100]: 223D39EA60: to=<hyperi@localhost>, orig_to=<hyperi at quick dot fi>, relay=local, delay=0.67, delays=0.57/0.03/0/0.08, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir)
[16:24:15] <Hyperi> wtf :D
[16:25:14] <Hyperi> Do I really need to put user@localhost for each entry? oO
[16:25:21] <sysmonk> you have your myorigin set to quick.fi, which is a virtual_alias_domain
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[16:25:58] <sysmonk> or was it myhostname.... don't remember
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[16:26:08] <sysmonk> anyway, it just alias to the same alias, a loop
[16:26:17] <sysmonk> although i thought postfix would spit an error about it ...
[16:27:16] <Hyperi> myorigin = /etc/mailname
[16:27:20] <Hyperi> aka. quick.fi
[16:27:57] <sysmonk> which is a virtual alias domain
[16:28:03] <Hyperi> hmm
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[16:29:14] <sysmonk> that's why having a DOMAIN for a servers hostname is wrong
[16:29:26] <Hyperi> Ah :S
[16:29:27] <sysmonk> you should have  a fqdn for it
[16:29:30] <sysmonk> i.e. server.quick.fi
[16:29:33] <Hyperi> mhm
[16:29:51] <Hyperi> I'll change it to foo.quick.fi now
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[16:30:49] <vice-versa> quick.quick.fi ;)
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[16:31:33] <Hyperi> good one :P
[16:31:48] <Hyperi> So now that's set
[16:32:01] <Hyperi> Which things I need to change to make it accept username without user@localhost ? :/
[16:32:17] <vice-versa> well that's actually what it is, hostname -f
[16:32:50] <Hyperi> root@quick:/etc/postfix# hostname -f
[16:32:50] <Hyperi> quick.fi
[16:34:43] <vice-versa> what is it without -f
[16:35:02] <Hyperi> quick.quick.fi
[16:35:19] <Hyperi> Still doesn't work without user@localhost :<
[16:35:35] <sysmonk> Hyperi: check the /etc/mailsomething file
[16:35:40] <sysmonk> did the domain change there
[16:35:43] <sysmonk> if it did, restart postfix
[16:36:16] <Hyperi> Just 'quick.fi' there
[16:36:22] <Hyperi> If you mean /etc/mailname
[16:36:22] <sysmonk> also, don't forget to add quick.quick.fi to your mydestination
[16:36:38] <sysmonk> Hyperi: yeah, that one. that's kinda lunix specific so i don't know the name :)
[16:37:26] <vice-versa> s/linux/debian/
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[16:37:32] <sysmonk> might be
[16:37:50] <Hyperi> :)
[16:38:03] <sysmonk> vice-versa: your replace doesn't work! :)
[16:38:23] <Hyperi> Like this: mydestination = localhost, quick.quick.fi
[16:38:25] <Hyperi> ?
[16:38:31] <sysmonk> Hyperi: yes
[16:38:34] <Hyperi> k
[16:43:05] <vice-versa> Hyperi: umm, hostname outputs quick.quick.fi?
[16:43:22] <Hyperi> y
[16:44:19] <vice-versa> you need to sort out your hostname/fqdn
[16:45:17] <Hyperi> mm
[16:45:33] <Hyperi> urgh
[16:45:47] <Hyperi> Almost crashed the server :/
[16:45:55] <vice-versa> hostname should be quick, domain quick.fi, fqdn quick.quick.fi
[16:46:29] <Hyperi> For some reasons someone has "Mail forwarded to "|/usr/bin/procmail -f-""
[16:46:34] <Hyperi> Which made endless loop somehow :S
[16:46:49] <vice-versa> nice
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[16:47:30] <sysmonk> procmail ftw :)
[16:47:36] <sysmonk> or even ftl :P
[16:47:36] <TMM> hi all! I've got a small question: I just upgraded my debian install from etch to lenny, and now my dovecot sasl in combination wtih postfix doesn't work anymore
[16:47:48] <TMM> Oct  5 16:47:44 mail postfix/smtpd[5964]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[16:47:49] <TMM> Oct  5 16:47:45 mail postfix/master[5942]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 5964 exit status 1
[16:47:49] <TMM> Oct  5 16:47:45 mail postfix/master[5942]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
[16:47:57] <sysmonk> weee more pasting in the channel ;)
[16:48:05] <TMM> that's what I see in the syslog... I didn't change anything :-/
[16:48:18] <TMM> ow... I'm sorry... what's the rule here? it's usually no more than 5 lines :)
[16:48:22] <sysmonk> you updated your install. blame debian
[16:48:34] <TMM> well, this also updated my postfix
[16:48:38] <TMM> and dovecot :)
[16:48:50] <sysmonk> i understand that, that's why i said blame debian
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[16:48:59] <sysmonk> because it's debian who made the packages ;)
[16:49:04] <TMM> I figured that maybe something changed in newer versions of postfix
[16:49:06] <sysmonk> TMM: anyway, there should be more info in the logs
[16:49:12] <vice-versa> but but, nothing changed ;)
[16:49:30] <sysmonk> postfix always tries to be backward compatible
[16:49:35] <TMM> sysmonk: there really isn't anything more ... I even set the dovecot to debug...
[16:49:43] <sysmonk> and i couldn't tell that about the lesbian thingie
[16:49:45] <sysmonk> debian that is ;)
[16:50:02] <sysmonk> TMM: nah, i'm talking about postfix logs
[16:50:07] <TMM> well, dovecot says it's opening a new auth connection for the new smtpd log
[16:50:24] <TMM> in mail.log?
[16:50:30] <sysmonk> in mail.*
[16:50:46] <sysmonk> look for fatal|warn|crit stuff
[16:51:02] <vice-versa> !obvious
[16:51:03] <knoba> vice-versa: "obvious" : look for obvious signs of trouble, egrep '(warning|error|fatal|panic):' /some/log/file See: !logs factoid if you're unsure of where your mail logs are located
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[16:51:33] <sysmonk> going to the shop
[16:51:59] <TMM> sysmonk: honestly! :) nothing more is here :-/
[16:52:28] <TMM> smtpd opens the dovecot auth socket, then immediately complains about no SASL auth types
[16:52:29] <TMM> then dies
[16:53:31] <Hyperi> wth does procmail -f- do anyways :S
[16:53:48] <Hyperi> as -f is 'fromwho' :S
[16:54:26] <TMM> I have postfix 2.5.5 installed... if that helps at all
[16:54:36] <stainer> if I get a bounce back that says (reason: 553 From <>, message blocked, you are not authorized to send mail,
[16:54:36] <stainer> authentication is required.)
[16:55:00] <vice-versa> TMM: hint, I bet you're not alone on this debian upgrade outcome
[16:55:04] <stainer> after it goes through  relay
[16:55:30] <TMM> vice-versa: well, post people appear to be using saslauthd from cyrus... I'm using dovecot sasl
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[16:56:33] <cmdln> good morning
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[16:57:29] <TMM> vice-versa: ow... according to the readme postfix now runs chrooted by default... maybe that's the problem
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[16:58:41] <spikyjt> Hi all, I'm setting up Postfix on ubuntu (first go with a mail server - please be gentle!). Using a relay which works fine. Expected local mail (for domains in mydestination) to be delivered locally, but they go to relay. Any idea what I've missed, or is this correct behaviour?
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[16:58:58] <spikyjt> my main.cf is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/54280/
[16:59:20] <kevc> is there a simple reason why procmail as mailbox_command would be delivering as root?
[16:59:35] <cmdln> I have postfix setup with mysql to store usernames passwords etc ... I seem to have a small issue with forwards. if I have @domain1 @domain2 in my alias map and I have joe@domain2 when I send an email to joe@domain1 it gets delivered to joe@domain2 as expected. But if I send an email to asdfg@domain1 it is happily deliverd to asdfg@domain2 (dovecot does the actual delivery) but it passes the checks. Can someone help get my alias checks to not pass for that?
[17:01:29] <vice-versa> TMM: possibly, but to my knowledge debian supplied postfix packages default to a chrooted postfix config
[17:03:30] <TMM> vice-versa: hmm :-/ yeah I suppose so
[17:04:30] <kevc> sorry, stupid question, it seems procmail was suid root
[17:04:44] <kevc> you always work it out as soon as you ask!
[17:05:39] <TMM> vice-versa: hmm... I reinstalled both to get the default configs, still no go :-/
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[17:10:41] <stainer> TMM - I used the howto on installing the "Perfect Server", other than some issues with relayhost, it was a snap.
[17:14:49] <TMM> vice-versa: is there a way to start smtpd with more debugging? maybe an option in master.cf?
[17:15:08] <vice-versa> !debug
[17:15:10] <knoba> vice-versa: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[17:16:24] <vice-versa> TMM: let me get this straight, you're now using default configs and you're expecting sasl to just work?
[17:17:02] <TMM> vice-versa: no, I checked to see what the differences between the default debian configs versus mine were
[17:17:12] <TMM> vice-versa: one path did change, so I changed that in my config too
[17:17:23] <TMM> vice-versa: I'm not an idiot :)
[17:17:33] <vice-versa> :)
[17:18:29] <TMM> ow! the plot thickens
[17:18:40] <TMM> http://www.paste2.org/p/82562
[17:20:15] <TMM> ah, it works now :)
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[17:20:38] <TMM> I needed to remove 'noplaintext' from my config. it's not a problem because my smtp server only authenticates through TLS anyway
[17:22:20] <vice-versa> which you had previously and it worked correct?
[17:22:27] <TMM> yes
[17:22:30] <vice-versa> ...so what changed?
[17:22:40] <TMM> apparently dovecot sasl
[17:23:52] <vice-versa> obviously, but what changed with the package so that noplaintext became an issue
[17:24:25] <TMM> I don't know yet, I'm going to compare the debian/ directories of the old and the new source packages
[17:24:35] <TMM> this is a bug in the new debian package I think
[17:25:10] <vice-versa> saslfinger may shed some light on things too
[17:25:16] <vice-versa> !saslfinger
[17:25:16] <knoba> vice-versa: "saslfinger" : SASL authentication debugging tool for Postfix: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/
[17:25:49] <TMM> vice-versa: I don't use cysrus sasl though
[17:27:26] <vice-versa> ahh sorry, forgot it was cyrus specific
[17:28:16] <TMM> vice-versa: I use dovecot sasl because it is so incredibly easy to setup ;) and I only use a pam userdatabase anyway.
[17:28:25] <TMM> vice-versa: no fancy virtualhosts and all that
[17:28:31] <TMM> vice-versa: errr, virtual users
[17:31:33] <vice-versa> don't use dovecot myself, no client-side auth support so it's a show stopper for me, but yeah I've seen others here claim it's easier to work with
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[18:35:14] <stainer> !pastebin
[18:35:15] <knoba> stainer: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.
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[18:37:39] <stainer> should I be worried about this log entry? http://rafb.net/p/J0Psjv96.html
[18:38:16] <innerself> I am thinking of setting up a linux mail server for a windows business network, but how can I archive all emails send and recieved? Should I be using IMAP?
[18:39:08] <innerself> IMAP will show all mail int he inbox vs. POP downloading only new mail correct?
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[18:41:11] <ChrisW> hey all, for one of my servers, root mail is coming from @domain.co.uk rather than @server.domain.co.uk... any ideas why that might be?
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[18:55:57] <higuita> ChrisW: check your myorigin
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[19:02:24] <wvdschel> hi
[19:02:56] <wvdschel> I've just set up my mail server, and all is well if I connect from localhost, but external connections don't get picked up
[19:03:21] <wvdschel> nothing shows in the logs, but the connection is not refused either
[19:04:30] <higuita> stainer: if is keeping happening, you can try to disable the TLS for a few hours and see if you get any email from them... if yes, try to contact then, to see why it disconnects after the TLS (its probably some bad config on their side)
[19:05:25] <wvdschel> looking at netstat gives me "tcp        0      0 *:smtp                  *:*                     LISTEN"
[19:05:50] <wvdschel> so I assume postfix is listening on and picking up the connection, it's just not answering
[19:06:06] <higuita> innerself: always_bcc can help you archive all emails, but be careful about the legality of archiving of email that dont belong to you
[19:06:20] <wvdschel> is this some kind of security thing, or does anyone know why this is happening?
[19:06:50] <higuita> it you are talking about your email, use a procmail (or similar) rule to copy the messages
[19:08:33] <higuita> wvdschel: check your inet_interfaces and it ok, try to use the tcpdump -i eth? port 25
[19:09:06] <wvdschel> higuita: I tried setting inet_interfaces = all, but it didn't change anything
[19:10:06] <wvdschel> what should tcpdump give me?
[19:10:36] <wvdschel> i'm running tcpdump -i venet0:0 port 25, and it gives me:
[19:10:45] <wvdschel> tcpdump: WARNING: arptype 65535 not supported by libpcap - falling back to cooked socket
[19:10:48] <wvdschel> should that worry me?
[19:10:54] <higuita> no
[19:11:06] <wvdschel> I've tried connecting, while running tcpdump, but it doesn't show anything
[19:11:51] <wvdschel> so I'm guessing nothing is coming through?
[19:12:10] <higuita> how are your testing the connection? sending a email or telnet to that ip/port?
[19:12:16] <wvdschel> telnet
[19:12:17] <wvdschel> yes
[19:13:29] <higuita> can you ping the server? firewall settings?
[19:13:51] <wvdschel> i can ping and visit the website so the server is very much reachable
[19:14:53] <wvdschel> I've not set up a firewall, and iptables has no rules and all policies are set to accept
[19:16:16] <higuita> routr firewall?
[19:16:35] <wvdschel> it's in a datacenter
[19:16:40] <wvdschel> so it would surprise me
[19:16:50] <wvdschel> its a VPS, and shouldn't be firewalled
[19:16:59] <wvdschel> but if it is, it's out of my hands
[19:17:08] <wvdschel> i've had this problem before
[19:17:11] <wvdschel> exactly the same
[19:17:18] <wvdschel> never resolved it
[19:17:30] <wvdschel> I followed the instructions on http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/
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[19:28:11] <wvdschel> strange
[19:28:21] <wvdschel> when I send a mail from gmail, it works
[19:28:43] <wvdschel> correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that supposed to work the same way (connecting to port 25)
[19:30:03] <higuita> humm... where and how are you telneting?
[19:31:36] <higuita> have you some kind of load balancer or some special DNS config?
[19:32:20] <wvdschel> I'm testing from my home connection
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[19:32:37] <wvdschel> which is just your ordinary laptop behind a wifi router
[19:32:51] <wvdschel> I'll try and see if evolution can get through
[19:36:02] <wvdschel> it just keeps waiting
[19:38:27] <wvdschel> strangely, if I connect from another VPS (in another datacenter and even another country), it works just fine
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[19:53:50] <sirio> blacklisting dial-up ips and the border router?
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[20:06:40] <roe_> WIll the postfix LDA create the  Maildir if one doesn't exist?
[20:07:15] <Trengo> creates everything i think
[20:07:38] <roe_> excellent, I wish maildrop did that as well
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