[00:00:08] <jssa> (I don't check my outgoing mail with spamassassin, because I don't want to have problems with my clients due to a false-positive)
[00:00:21] <sahil> hm...
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[00:00:54] <jssa> (anyway, as we agreed, tagging with spamassassin won't solve my problem of getting blacklisted...)
[00:01:04] <sahil> where is your postconf -n though?
[00:01:15] <sahil> and log excerpts?
[00:01:43] <sahil> sorry, gotta run.  but paste the requested info and someone should help!
[00:02:22] <jssa> I don't think my particular setup is relevant
[00:02:34] <jssa> ok, sahil thanks for your help!
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[00:18:18] <sahil> ok if you don't think it's relevant, then you're on your own.
[00:18:27] <sahil> you've already been given a good solution until you un-infect those PCs...
[00:18:41] <sahil> get the username (if your users are indeed relaying with SASL auth) and BLOCK those users from sending mail.
[00:18:57] <sahil> then they will get annoyed and ask, then uninfect pc.  refresh, repeat.
[00:19:01] <sahil> good luck. :P
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[01:32:10] <BenB> I have, in my main.cf: virtual_maps = regexp:/etc/postfix/virtual.regexp, hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[01:32:33] <BenB> that works on one server with debian etch, but not on my new installation based on ubuntu 8.04.1
[01:33:10] <BenB> the virtual.regexp file is identical. the old server doesn't even have/need a virtual.regexp.db file, and it works.
[01:33:45] <BenB> yet, on the new server, the mail is rejected with "user not found in virtual bla", so the regexp file is not used at all. I see no message in syslog (/var/log/mail.info).
[01:33:47] <BenB> any hints?
[01:34:00] <BenB> postconf -m includes regexp.
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[01:39:39] <BenB> nevermind. I noticed that I had another virtual_maps = line later in the main.cf file, which I didn't see and which of course overrode the earlier one.
[01:39:58] <BenB> (yes, I could have used postconf to check)
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[02:43:53] <m0niker> /nicki m0niker killyourself
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[03:43:04] <g0ldb3rg> hello
[03:43:12] <g0ldb3rg> i cant send mail out from postfix, can someone help plz
[03:43:56] <g0ldb3rg> i am using ubuntu hardy heron
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[03:47:44] <g0ldb3rg> anybody?
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[03:59:40] <g0ldb3rg> i cant send mail out from postfix, can someone help plz
[03:59:46] <lunaphyte> !tell g0ldb3rg logs
[03:59:48] <knoba> g0ldb3rg: -> "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[04:01:01] <g0ldb3rg> i am new to linux how do i do this?
[04:03:44] <g0ldb3rg> ok i got the logs
[04:03:50] <g0ldb3rg> i'm getting connection timed out
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[04:28:50] <sahil> g0ldb3rg: if there are < 2 lines, paste them here so we understand exactly what's going on.
[04:29:58] <g0ldb3rg> k
[04:30:27] <g0ldb3rg> Sep 21 22:26:38 ubuntu postfix/smtp[25228]: connect to mail.m-goldberg.com[65.182.102.90]:25: Connection timed out
[04:30:28] <g0ldb3rg> Sep 21 22:26:38 ubuntu postfix/smtp[25228]: 24585E4A8: to=<danielg at m-goldberg dot com>, relay=none, delay=1062, delays=1031/0.01/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mail.m-goldberg.com[65.182.102.90]:25: Connection timed out)
[04:32:30] <g0ldb3rg> i'm running postfix on ubuntu 8.04 hardy 64bit server edition on vmware server
[04:41:35] <sahil> so it seems pretty clear. :)
[04:41:42] <sahil> postfix cannot connect to mail.m-goldberg.com!
[04:42:01] * sahil can connect just fine.
[04:42:21] <sahil> is outgoing on port 25 blocked on the ubuntu server?
[04:50:41] <normal1> any way to disable postfix listening on 25 and to just act as a submit MTA?
[04:54:24] <normal1> anyone?
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[05:02:37] <sahil> normal1: yes.
[05:02:51] <normal1> ok, how?
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[05:03:45] <sahil> you could block port 25 at the firewall, too.
[05:03:53] <sahil> or just disable the regular smtpd in master.cf.
[05:05:32] <g0ldb3rg> oh
[05:05:46] <g0ldb3rg> so i need to set a diff port?
[05:05:50] <sahil> no.
[05:05:58] <sahil> do you see the submission entry in yout master.cf?
[05:06:17] <normal1> thanks
[05:07:12] <sahil> g0ldb3rg: i was talking to normal1, not you re: the master.cf.
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[05:07:46] <sahil> g0ldb3rg: you still need to answer whether outgoing port 25 is blocked on the postfix machine that is (above) trying to connect to mail.m-goldberg.com.  it appears it is.  can you connect to any other machine on port 25 from the same postfix machine?  (hint: try doing this via telnet).
[05:09:00] <g0ldb3rg> its not blocked. i checked ip tables i even disabled it
[05:09:20] <sahil> maybe *you* aren't blocking it, but your ISP is.
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[05:09:51] <sahil> again, can you telnet to port 25 on any *other* machine besides mail.m-goldberg.com?  if not, then port 25 is definitely blocked and it has nothing to do with m-goldberg.com.
[05:10:14] <g0ldb3rg> its not blocked. i checked ip tables i even disabled it
[05:10:18] <g0ldb3rg> oops
[05:10:21] <g0ldb3rg> auto paste
[05:10:35] <g0ldb3rg> can u give me a mail server address to telnet to so i can check?
[05:10:46] <sahil> dude, choose any one!
[05:11:09] <sahil> % host -t mx gmail.com
[05:11:33] <sahil> % telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25
[05:11:50] <sahil> does the above telnet work for you from the *same* machine that postfix is running on above?
[05:11:56] <k-man_> should an email to a non existant local user get processed by greylist before it is rejected as user unknown?
[05:12:25] <sahil> k-man_: no.
[05:12:37] <k-man_> sahil: hmmm.. that's what my greylist settings are doing
[05:13:40] <sahil> k-man_: sounds like your smtpd_*_restrictions are off.  you're greylisting way too early, though it's hard to say without seeing your postconf -n output.
[05:14:27] <k-man_> ok, ill paste it
[05:14:30] <k-man_> 2 secs
[05:14:47] <sahil> actually, no...
[05:15:00] <sahil> that is really odd because postfix will by default reject mail to unknown users without even getting to those other restrictions.
[05:15:04] <sahil> so that is really odd indeed!
[05:15:24] <k-man_> well - as i'm new to hosting my own mx record
[05:15:30] <k-man_> i may well have stuffed something up
[05:15:50] <k-man_> http://pastebin.com/f53e3a56c
[05:15:52] <sahil> right, well, let's have a look at your postconf -n; perhaps you messed something up with your local recipient maps.
[05:15:57] <sahil> k, moment.
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[05:19:28] <sahil> was the mail in question addressed to someone at organictrader dot com.au?
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[05:19:51] <k-man_> sahil: yeah - a test email to a nonexistant-user at org dot ..
[05:20:08] <g0ldb3rg> u are right
[05:20:11] <g0ldb3rg> i cannot telnet it
[05:20:21] <g0ldb3rg> how could it be blocked?
[05:20:27] <g0ldb3rg> if my firewall is down
[05:20:45] <sahil> k-man_: it is not a good idea to put the same domain in mydestination _and_ relay_domains ... why do you have that?  if your users are local just have it in mydestination and forget about the relay_domains.
[05:21:01] <k-man_> sahil: ok, ill change that
[05:21:26] <k-man_> sahil: i have no idea why i have that - i set postfix up using dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[05:21:29] <k-man_> and went from there
[05:21:30] <sahil> k-man_: i think the problem is that you have the domain as a relay_domain and never defined relay_recipient_maps, so there is no check regarding unknown users.
[05:21:36] <sahil> k-man_: because debian is evil. :P
[05:21:48] <k-man_> sahil: yes - that must be it ;)
[05:22:00] <g0ldb3rg> so how do i check if 25 is blocked? iptables is down
[05:22:21] <sahil> g0ldb3rg: because it is out of your control!  your ISP is blocking connecting outgoing from its network (on which you are) on port 25... EXCEPT to its own mail server.  you *must* relay through them, or use an alternative port (i.e. 587 submission port) to connect to a different MTA.
[05:22:38] <sahil> that's the second time i've said this in the last 10 mins!
[05:22:40] <g0ldb3rg> oh damn it. i blocked in my router! stupid me
[05:22:41] <g0ldb3rg> i forgot
[05:22:49] <sahil> *sigh*
[05:23:09] <g0ldb3rg> unbelieveable
[05:23:16] <g0ldb3rg> i must be brain damaged
[05:23:39] <g0ldb3rg> anyway i'm sure it will work now. i'm trying to set up squirrelmail
[05:23:54] <g0ldb3rg> i couldn't figure out how to set courier up. is it possible to set up pop3 instead?
[05:23:59] <sahil> relay_domains should by default be set to $mydestination, so you don't need to specify different domains..
[05:24:12] <sahil> g0ldb3rg: just #postfix help here; try #courier or something.
[05:25:02] <g0ldb3rg> k
[05:25:07] <g0ldb3rg> thanx
[05:25:31] <g0ldb3rg> by the way when i telnet localhost on 25
[05:25:35] <g0ldb3rg> it queues mail
[05:25:38] <g0ldb3rg> doesnt process it
[05:25:42] <g0ldb3rg> is there a way to fix that
[05:25:43] <g0ldb3rg> ?
[05:26:01] <sahil> yes, you figure out *why* it's queuing mail (hint: see the log for that mail), and then fix it.
[05:26:42] <g0ldb3rg> nevermind i fixed it
[05:26:46] <g0ldb3rg> thanks for all the assistance
[05:27:03] <sahil> k-man_: your situation is peculiar, i don't understand why it's not checking for user unknown before handing mail off to the policy service...
[05:27:06] <sahil> super.
[05:28:39] <sahil> k-man_: also hope you don't have some wildcard aliases. :P
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[06:08:50] <k-man_> sahil: no, no wild card aliases
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[06:11:28] <k-man_> sahil: fyi, that seems to have fixed it. thanks :)
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[06:55:31] <MrNaz`> for some reason my mail seems to be not received... how do i check that it is actually leaving postfix? i'm using archiveopteryx as my MSA and it is using SMTP submission to provide authenticated smtp services, so what i want to check is if my outbound mail is being passed from archiveopteryx to postfix and if so, if postfix is relaying it
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[08:17:04] <Monike1> I belive you can check your logs
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[10:09:01] <loompek> morning
[10:09:50] <loompek> in what file can i rewrite recipient domain
[10:10:22] <loompek> let's say i want all the mail, sent to @a.domain.com sent to @a.domain.org
[10:12:25] <loompek> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#generic
[10:12:47] <loompek> i've tried this... so smtp_generic_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/generic
[10:13:01] <loompek> and then adding @a.domain.com @a.domain.org in the generic file..
[10:13:18] <loompek> and running postmap and postfix reload afterwards...
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[10:46:16] <smellynoser> Hey
[10:46:49] <smellynoser> Postfix isn't working correctly - Yesterday I updated postfix by using 'yum update' and now it's complaining: "fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql"
[10:46:53] <smellynoser> This used to work, but now doesn't
[10:48:23] <smellynoser> Users, domains and forwardings are in a MySQL database
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[10:52:37] <loompek> anyone here?
[10:52:41] <loompek> like i said...
[10:53:12] <f3ew> no
[10:53:28] <f3ew> smellynoser rebuild the Postfix source RPM with MySQL support
[10:53:31] <loompek> all the mail from a host to a specific recipient domain ( at a dot domain.com) should be rewritten ( at a dot domain.org) and sent to a specific relay
[10:53:36] <loompek> how to do that...
[10:53:51] <loompek> editing transport and generic doesn't seem to work
[10:54:11] <f3ew> loompek, for mail coming to your server, virtual_alias_maps, smtp_generic_maps for mail going out of your server via smtp
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[11:57:42] <adnc> hello, with some hosts i do get such ssl errors: Sep 22 11:50:29 mail dkim-filter[7707]: 68C1234BB4 SSL error:04067069:rsa routines:RSA_EAY_PUBLIC_DECRYPT:pkcs1 padding too
[11:58:04] <adnc> has someone got an idea how this can be interpreted?
[11:58:16] <adnc> btw, the error above is from googlemail
[12:02:51] <loompek> umm.. is it possible to have conditional address rewriting and relaying in postfix...
[12:03:12] <loompek> i'd like to mask the sender domain also, in case the recipient is @some.domain.com
[12:03:37] <f3ew> loompek yes
[12:03:37] <loompek> in case some host sends my postfix the mail with the following
[12:03:47] * f3ew recommends a custom policy daemon
[12:03:55] <loompek> i'd have to write it manually
[12:04:20] <sysmonk> i think that's what 'custom' stands for :)
[12:05:19] <loompek> bummer
[12:05:32] <loompek> do you think anything like that is already written?
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[12:09:41] <f3ew> no
[12:10:15] <f3ew> You can do stuff in Postfix directly, but it's not all that trivial to do conditionals
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[12:12:30] <Legality> hi, man postqueue didn't help me too much on this case, I need to emphty my postqueue, it seems that some spammer has used our email address in their fake headers
[12:14:04] <sysmonk> !postsuper
[12:14:05] <knoba> sysmonk: "postsuper" : the queue supervision tool for postfix. Use it with the option "-d" to remove mails from the queue. See 'man postsuper' for more information.
[12:14:08] <sysmonk> Legality: not postqueue, but postsuper ^^
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[12:21:40] <ndonegan> Hi, trying to setup multiple instances of postfix on one machine, and getting the following error "fatal: unknown service: smtp/tcp" on the second instance. I have setup a seperate config directory and queue directorys
[12:22:52] <sysmonk> hm, smtp/tcp, something wrong with your /etc/services
[12:23:05] <sysmonk> or you have a chrooted setup without no /etc/services inside
[12:23:23] <ndonegan> grep smtp /etc/services
[12:23:23] <ndonegan> smtp		25/tcp		mail
[12:23:23] <ndonegan> ssmtp		465/tcp		smtps		# SMTP over SSL
[12:23:32] <sysmonk> don't pastebin into the channel
[12:23:39] <Legality> sysmonk: are you one of the developers of postfix?
[12:23:44] <ndonegan> sorry
[12:23:51] <sysmonk> Legality: no, i'm not
[12:23:53] * f3ew waves to ndonegan
[12:24:02] <Legality> sysmonk: you were german right?
[12:24:07] <f3ew> ndonegan see permissions on /etc/services
[12:24:08] <sysmonk> Legality: no... :)
[12:24:20] <ndonegan> no, the chroot thing makes sense.
[12:24:22] <sysmonk> Legality: i'm lithuanian, if that matters :)
[12:24:30] <Legality> oh
[12:24:30] <f3ew> yeah, that's another problem :)
[12:24:37] <Legality> I remembered incorrectly then
[12:24:42] <Legality> but you did sysadmin for some company
[12:24:44] <Legality> I remember that
[12:25:09] * sysmonk does grep -i legality ~/.irssi/logs/FreeNode/*/*/*/#postfix.log
[12:25:16] <Legality> heh
[12:25:22] <Legality> long time ago
[12:25:36] <ndonegan> The postfix -c /etc/postfix.new check created most of the spool stuff, but not etc/ lib/ and usr/ withing the new spool directory
[12:26:08] <sysmonk> oh, you're the edullin* guy
[12:26:11] <Legality> yea
[12:26:47] <sysmonk> ndonegan: why should postfix create etc lib/ and usr/ ?
[12:27:30] <sysmonk> postfix doesn't create a full chroot envoirnment, that's up to you
[12:27:53] <ndonegan> sysmonk: It shouldn't, but the default debian config that I was using has the chrooted environment in the spool directory, and I hadn't realised :)
[12:27:57] <f3ew> postfix -c <=== use a different config directory, Postfix creates it's own file structure on the first run
[12:28:02] <f3ew> heh
[12:28:08] <ndonegan> sysmonk: ie, a case of PEBCAK on my part :)
[12:28:19] <f3ew> There's a chroot-postfix (or postfix-chroot) script
[12:28:51] <Legality> ok, but I got my prob fixed. Thanks again sysmonk, nice to see ya again
[12:28:51] <Legality> bye
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[12:29:11] <sysmonk> that's the 3rd or 4th time i helped him o_o
[12:29:42] <ndonegan> sysmonk: nice, added in the chroot stuff, reloaded and the two test messages went flying through :)
[12:45:03] <loompek> f3ew any links i could read how to do conditional rewriting in postfix without any custom daemons?
[12:45:24] <f3ew> loompek, restriction classes
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[12:46:54] <loompek> url? :$
[12:47:06] <f3ew> Google?
[12:47:32] <loompek> http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[12:47:36] <loompek> this seems okay ;)
[12:48:06] <ndonegan> postix, mynetworks in mysql and working with CIDR notation makes for a sore head :)
[12:48:19] <loompek> hmm
[12:48:21] <loompek> access control...
[12:48:33] <loompek> i don't want access control but rather address rewriting and relaying
[12:59:56] <f3ew> ndonegan, PostgreSQL supports CIDR
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[13:00:43] <ndonegan> f3ew: unfortunately it's replication support seems to be dire
[13:01:25] <f3ew> ndonegan, it works reliably
[13:01:30] <f3ew> Slony is trivial :)
[13:01:44] <f3ew> Londiste is lightweight
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[13:57:30] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I got a installation for outgoing mail: Internet<-Postfix<-clamav<-amavisd-new<-postfix<-Lotus Domino.....Works lovely....I sned an email, its being sent to postfix, scanned for spam/viruses and passed to postfix again for sending it to my i-net providers smarthos, which sends it to the receiver...
[13:57:31] <Danskmand> Now I want to integrate the incoming mails, which are several POP3-accounts - this means: Fetchmail->Postfix->clam-av->amavisd-new->Postfix->Lotus Domino....
[13:57:31] <Danskmand> Fetchmail works fine, I get a code 250 when its forwarded from fetchmail to postfix. But I never see it in my Lotus Notes Client...So "somewhere" its getting lost. I *think* I can see it being scanned by clamav and amavisd-new too...And I *think* the poblem is that when its ready to get forwarded to my Domino-server, the smarthost-entry kicks in and postix is sending it out to the I-net providers smarthost again....
[13:57:33] <Danskmand> What can I do so mails sent from Domino to Internet is sent to the smarthost and emails coming from the I-net (fetchmail) is getting forwarded to the Domino-server ?
[13:57:54] <Danskmand> I hope I wont get kicked for THAT large a post ;-)
[14:04:33] <lunaphyte_> !logs
[14:04:34] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[14:04:42] <lunaphyte_> !tell Danskmand examples
[14:04:45] <knoba> Danskmand: -> "examples" : http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[14:05:49] <Danskmand> Ok...I'll look at it (and propably come back for questions).....
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[14:27:10] <adnc> !smtp_tls_security_level
[14:27:12] <knoba> adnc: "smtp_tls_security_level" : The default SMTP TLS security level for the Postfix SMTP client; when a non-empty value is specified, this overrides the obsolete parameters smtp_use_tls, smtp_enforce_tls, and smtp_tls_enforce_peername. Specify one of the following security levels: none, may, encrypt, fingerprint, verify, secure. Available in Postfix 2.3 and later.
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[15:06:19] <fEnIo> hello
[15:11:01] <fEnIo> I'm looking for some way to limit number of headers in mail... is there some way to do that in Postfix? I found header_size_limit, but it seems to limit only how long can be particular line of header part.
[15:11:10] <fEnIo> Any other way without external filters?
[15:12:13] <shasta> I don't think so
[15:12:32] <sysmonk> limit the number of headers?!
[15:12:34] <sysmonk> what for?
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[15:14:56] <fEnIo> I received some spam where there was over 8MB of doubled/tripled headers From, To, Subject, and my Webmail can't read it so I would like to limit/reject it. It was spam so I suppose it was generated by some broken bot, and I expect more mails like that.
[15:15:28] <fEnIo> I would like to reject mails if they have more than let's say 5000 headers
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[15:16:06] <shasta> yay
[15:16:32] <shasta> isn't header_size_limit enough then?
[15:17:02] <shasta> set it to 5000*average-size-of-a-header-in-bytes
[15:17:51] <fEnIo> AFAIK hedaer_size_limit tests particular line, not whole header part. It's default is 102400, but mail with 8MB of headers pass it
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[15:18:57] <fEnIo> so I would like to limit number of headers and not their sizes
[15:19:09] <shasta> oh, indeed
[15:19:25] <shasta> so, content filter is the way to go
[15:20:10] <sysmonk> fEnIo: could you pastebin the headers ?
[15:20:15] <sysmonk> atleast part of them
[15:20:18] <sysmonk> just curious :)
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[15:35:10] <raz> i'm using smtpd_sender_restrictions with check_sender_access .. is there a way to remove the "Sender address rejected: " string from the error messages that postfix sends to rejected clients?
[15:35:23] <raz> in some cases i don't want clients to know why they were rejected
[15:37:29] <lunaphyte_> people still use check_sender_access?
[15:37:38] <raz> why not?
[15:39:02] <lunaphyte_> i guess is shouldn't make assumptions.  what purpose does it serve, in your case?
[15:39:06] <lunaphyte_> *i
[15:39:45] <raz> just getting rid of the mail from a few former companies that can't be arsed to take me off their mailing lists
[15:40:21] <raz> ideally i would blacklist the ip of their mailserver but i didn't find an option for that
[15:40:41] <lunaphyte_> !tell raz check_client_access
[15:40:42] <knoba> raz: -> "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise
[15:41:14] <raz> oh!
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[15:48:40] <ndonegan> Is it possible to get postfix to log extra info? Have multiple instances running, and I'd like something in the logs to distinguish which instance is logging which line
[15:49:42] <lunaphyte_> !tell ndonegan logs
[15:49:44] <knoba> ndonegan: -> "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[15:49:59] <f3ew> ndonegan, syslog_name is your friend
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[15:51:14] <ndonegan> f3ew: perfect. Thanks.
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[15:55:06] <lunaphyte_> what, my clue wasn't good enough? ;)
[15:55:43] <ndonegan> lunaphyte_: clue good, cluebat straight to the back of the head better :)
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[15:56:13] <lunaphyte_> i must've left mine at home.
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[16:05:43] <gstaniak> hi
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[16:07:44] <brd> lunaphyte_: Never Leave Home Without It(tm)
[16:08:03] <gstaniak> i need to setup a few local adresss that should receive a bcc of all mail that comes from a specific domain: i'm trying to use sender_bcc_maps, but it doesn't work - what do i need to do apart from the "sender_bcc_maps" directive in main.cf and " at domain dot tld" records in the map file?
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[16:14:42] <lunaphyte_> gstaniak: what does postconf sender_bcc_maps say?
[16:15:23] <Dominian> !always_bcc
[16:15:24] <gstaniak> lunaphyte, sender_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_bcc
[16:15:24] <knoba> Dominian: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[16:15:40] <Dominian> maybe some variation on that?
[16:15:56] <lunaphyte_> gstaniak: is there a etc/postfix/sender_bcc.db file?
[16:17:26] <gstaniak> Dominian, knoba: it's a fairly busy corporate server, i don't want to flood an account, i just need to separate some important senders for other procesiing
[16:17:57] <gstaniak> lunaphyte, yes, i called "postmap sender_bcc" on the map file
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[16:19:50] <fEnIo> sysmonk: http://paste.debian.net/17758/ - these exist thousand of times, rest of email looks ok
[16:20:40] <lunaphyte_> gstaniak: them my guess would be that your table isn't right.
[16:22:17] <sysmonk> fEnIo: i wanted to see the 'exists thousands of times', i know how headers look like.
[16:23:58] <sysmonk> oh, anyway, $studies
[16:26:02] <seekwill> sysmonk: What are you studying?
[16:26:38] <gstaniak> lunaphyte, hm, that's what i would think too, but it seems it follows the examples: just simple " at domain dot tld local_name" records
[16:27:14] <fEnIo> sysmonk: just write it to /tmp/test and do for i in `seq 200000`; do cat /tmp/test >> /tmp/thousands; done
[16:27:21] <fEnIo> this is how it looks like then ;)
[16:27:49] <sysmonk> i don't have seq :P
[16:28:05] <sysmonk> seekwill: theoretically it's called "information systems"
[16:28:07] <fEnIo> but you can imagine what am I talking about ;)
[16:28:11] <lunaphyte_> didn't we just have this discussion?
[16:28:17] <sysmonk> practically it's ... um... i don't know
[16:29:13] <sysmonk> lunaphyte_: the jot > seq one ? :)
[16:29:27] <lunaphyte_> yeah, that's the one.
[16:30:52] <sysmonk> you get the point :P
[16:31:54] <sysmonk> k, afk
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[16:40:31] <Bruno_Kante_> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3573230/
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[16:43:34] <brd> hmm
[16:44:24] <lunaphyte_> everyone's got a freakin web site.  fantastic.
[16:44:34] <brd> gotta love it
[16:45:37] <lunaphyte_> sometimes i think i should brand myself as the "techno-cynic".
[16:46:03] <xpoint> lunaphyte, see http://localhost/ for more info :)
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[16:51:40] <lunaphyte_> xpoint: i get more usable information by doing that than i do from 98% of the garbage that's out there :)
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[16:56:32] <jeremy-wrk> hey guys simple question. how do i change postfix to listen on a different port?
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[16:58:15] <f3ew> jeremy-wrk master.cf
[17:02:28] <jeremy-wrk> what do i put in there? there is no initial port=25 and the only places i see the word port is in the comments about filters
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[17:15:31] <jeremy-wrk> i am looking at smtpd syntax to change it, but it seems a bit sparce
[17:17:12] <seekwill> jeremy-wrk: You're interested in the 'service' column
[17:17:24] <seekwill> Change 'smtp' to the port you want
[17:20:49] <jeremy-wrk> k. thanks!
[17:23:14] <xpoint> jeremy-wrk, 127.0.0.2:1024 in service field on the master.cf
[17:23:25] <xpoint> change as you like
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[17:32:01] <nonsequitir_> Howdy, when using "postmap -q "test.com" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql/virtual_mailbox_domains.cf ", I get a postmap: fatal: load_library_symbols: dlopen failure loading /usr/lib/postfix/dict_mysql.so: /usr/lib/postfix/dict_mysql.so: undefined symbol: db_common_parse_domain.  (SUSE Linux Enterprise 10SP2 with postfix 2.4.5).  Any ideas?
[17:32:23] <nonsequitir_> postconf -m does list mysql and the database is up and running
[17:33:01] <nonsequitir_> And FWIW, postfix24-mysql-2.4.5-1.1 is the version I'm trying to use
[17:33:19] <nonsequitir_> And lastly, I can only find references to this issue in Spanish :-(
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[19:55:20] <ChoHag> Is it possible to munge an input key when looking it up in a database?
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[19:55:46] <ChoHag> eg. to look up mailman@domain for any of mailman-*@domain
[19:57:06] <ChoHag> Could the address be rewritten (with pcre maybe) and yet final delivery is still to the original address?
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[19:58:25] <ChoHag> ie. When postfix rewrites mailman-*@domain to mailman@domain and  then performs the db lookup on mailman@domain, does it deliver to the mailman transport to mailman@domain or mailman-*@domain?
[19:59:54] <ChoHag> This may be IRC but I expect instant answers or I will have to demand my money back.
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[20:01:04] * seekwill sends ChoHag an invoice for the bytes he has transmitted to my network
[20:01:22] <ChoHag> You can do that?
[20:01:34] <seekwill> I just did!
[20:01:35] <ChoHag> Now if only I could get the postal addresses of spammers...
[20:01:45] <seekwill> RBL!
[20:02:13] * seekwill just implemented his RBL policies over the weekend. 60 second tarpit for each SMTP stage for rbl hits
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[20:10:15] <brd> seekwill: intersting, how did you do that?
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[20:10:41] <seekwill> Oh, it wasn't with postfix :)
[20:10:55] <xpoint> seekwill, blacklist ip in rbl 86400 secs if listed, and check local client ip from mysql in client test in postfix
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[20:11:48] <seekwill> Oh, I just reject the connection... They are free to reconnect
[20:12:28] <xpoint> point is thay are not unlisted in 86400 secs
[20:12:52] <seekwill> Hm... Maybe I'm not understanding what you're doing
[20:13:52] <xpoint> :-)
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[20:24:22] <seekwill> I just do a simple lookup. If you're in zen, I tarpit you until the rcptto, and then say, "hey, you're in zen, connect to me from another ip, kthxbye"
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[20:30:59] <xpoint> seekwill, weird
[20:32:10] <xpoint> seekwill, if a sender wants to delist, it can be done in 60 secs ? :)
[20:33:18] <xpoint> thats olso why is cache rbl here the next 86400 secs
[20:35:04] <seekwill> xpoint: I use zen.spamhous.org
[20:35:12] <seekwill> haus...
[20:35:25] <seekwill> I think they have their own delisting procedures
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[20:52:40] <iloatherancid> anyone here have any experience of postfix with aliases ?
[20:56:33] <vice-versa> !anyone
[20:56:34] <knoba> vice-versa: "anyone" : Please do not ask if anyone uses some program or postfix feature. Instead ask your real question.
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[21:00:50] <ChoHag> pcre or regexp. Is there a speed difference?
[21:01:49] <iloatherancid> apologies, I am installing a tool on a debian system called rancid for monitoring routers.  Rancid requires a system mailer to mail through the aliases file.  It seems if change /etc/aliases or /etc/postfix/aliases (and don't newaliaes of course), posftfix never recognizes them.  Sending a mail by telnetting into the localhost, port 25 to send a mail through postfix to our Exchange smtp, it takes the recipient name.. and it appe
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[21:04:12] <sysmonk> iloatherancid: message was trimmed
[21:04:20] <sysmonk> can you pastebin the message if it's THAT long :)
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[21:05:06] <iloatherancid> Sure, there you go: http://pastebin.com/m598cab68
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[21:06:34] <sysmonk> now, re-do the whole thing and pastebin the REAL stuff
[21:06:37] <sysmonk> now it's inconsistent
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[21:07:05] <sysmonk> 'mail from:<test at test dot com>' whereas in logs postfix shows mail from tst at tst dot com
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[21:07:44] <sysmonk> rcpt to: <fullemail@address> whereas in logs it shows orig_to=<rancid-Test>
[21:07:46] <sysmonk> that's lies too
[21:07:47] <sysmonk> :)
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[21:13:10] <gstaniak> hi
[21:13:44] <gstaniak>  i need to setup a few local adresss that should receive a bcc of all mail that comes from a specific domain: i'm trying to use sender_bcc_maps, but it doesn't work - what do i need to do apart from the "sender_bcc_maps" directive in main.cf and " at domain dot tld" records in the map file?
[21:17:05] <sysmonk> except postmaping the file? nothing
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[21:21:57] <gstaniak> sysmonk, it looks like everything is ok, the main.cf directives, the postmap file (postmap -q shows valid records inside), but still no bcc is sent to the other account
[21:22:57] <sysmonk> gstaniak: pastebin postconf -n + the bcc map + log entries when somebody from that domain sends you an email
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[21:34:45] <gstaniak> sysmonk, ok, it's here: http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/7608
[21:36:05] <gstaniak> sysmonk, "sysadm2" is a local account to which i sent mail from a " at cpu dot lublin.pl" address, but it was not delivered to the "webadm2" address specified in the map file
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[21:39:53] <sysmonk> oh boy
[21:40:01] <sysmonk> please, i DON'T need amavis logs
[21:40:10] * cpm logs sysmonk
[21:40:21] <sysmonk> now i need to dig through all the crap just to find one line
[21:41:44] <sysmonk> gstaniak: now, cut out all the crap, and pastebin only _postfix_ logs
[21:42:05] <sysmonk> start with the place you connect to the server, end with the lines where postfix removes it from the queue
[21:42:13] <sysmonk> and cut out all the amavisd and postgrey crap, thanks :)
[21:42:16] * sysmonk logs cpm too
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[21:42:41] <kesar> hello / hallo
[21:42:51] <gstaniak> sysmonk, ok, sorry, here's a version without amavis lines: http://paste.turbogears.org/paste/7610
[21:43:27] <sysmonk> gstaniak: Sep 22 21:30:07 cerber postfix/qmgr[5727]: 008E71DF00A9: from=<gstaniak at apollo dot cpu.lublin.pl>, size=1303, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[21:43:37] <kesar> can somebody help me to check my postfix configuration, so I don't be listened on spamhaus.org?
[21:43:37] <sysmonk> see antyhing wrong here?
[21:44:02] <gstaniak> sysmonk, hmmm, so obvious
[21:44:05] <gstaniak> sysmonk, thanks
[21:44:24] <sysmonk> gstaniak: np, you owe me a beer :P
[21:44:34] <gstaniak> sysmonk, just say whem
[21:44:37] <gstaniak> when
[21:44:39] <sysmonk> heeh
[21:44:50] <sysmonk> gstaniak: maybe you're a bsd user?
[21:45:43] <ThersiT> can anyone recomend a popular pop or imap server?
[21:45:46] <gstaniak> sysmonk, no, mainly linux
[21:45:54] <sysmonk> ThersiT: exchange?! :)
[21:46:17] <sysmonk> ThersiT: simple: courier, medium: dovecot advanced: cyrus, but there are others too
[21:46:26] <sysmonk> gstaniak: ah, darn, bad then :P
[21:46:38] <sysmonk> anyway, i don't think i'll be ever in lublin
[21:47:22] <ThersiT> has qpopper been left behind these days?
[21:47:29] <sysmonk> i was in 'meetbsd' conference last year, this year it's not in poland, but maybe next year it'll be help in poland again
[21:47:32] <kesar> I've a virtualdomain configuration but no idea how i can set the senders hostname for every hosted virtual domain
[21:47:39] <sysmonk> qpoop*what?
[21:47:52] <sysmonk> ThersiT: i don't use it, maybe other people do
[21:48:19] <sysmonk> i choose courier in small setups, and cyrus in more advanced ones
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[21:48:50] <gstaniak> sysmonk, who knows. it's a nice place to visit when you have no other nice place to visit ;)
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[21:49:27] <sysmonk> gstaniak: nah, not when i don't have a car and when i go to poland only when somebody is willing to give me a ride :)
[21:49:49] <sysmonk> mostly warsaw || krakow
[21:50:16] <gstaniak> sysmonk, warsaw = ugly, krakow = almost like prague ;)
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[21:58:26] <adj> hi. i'm rebuilding a mail server. i personally prefer postfix, and am curious if it will work in this situation
[21:58:38] <adj> i have an ldap server with people and group trees
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[21:59:45] <adj> the mail server will host serveral domains. i have seen several setups that allow virtual domains and users, but instead of having a different user/passwd for each account a user has, i'd like to use their posixAccount entry
[21:59:58] <adj> however, some accounts will be completely virtual
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[22:00:20] <cVsup> somebody can help me with postfix and mailman?
[22:00:34] <cVsup> when i send mail to list, it return me an error
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[22:00:38] <cVsup> unknown user
[22:01:01] <sysmonk> adj: that's upto sasl implementation
[22:01:16] <sysmonk> adj: postfix doesn't care about user/password, it just passes it to SASL, and waits for response from it
[22:01:36] <adj> hmm
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[22:01:55] <adj> right, i have a few single domain installs using dovecot's sasl provider to handle this
[22:02:12] <adj> i suppose i should ask dovecot, or cyrus
[22:03:17] <adj> MTA's are such a bitch ;)
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[22:04:16] <cVsup> ?
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[22:07:37] <ChoHag> Is it possible, or rather how is it done, to create an email address which can only be sent to from certain sources?
[22:08:00] <ChoHag> eg. an everyone@domain address to which only authenticated or $mynetworks users can post.
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[22:12:10] <vice-versa> ChoHag: yes it's possible using a check_recipient_access map after permit_mynetworks in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
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[22:14:37] <vice-versa> in the map file you would have something like this,  everyone at example dot com            550 User unknown
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[22:17:13] <ChoHag> Cheers
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[22:21:37] <workdammit> is there a definitive guide to setting up domainkeys?  on solaris?
[22:22:05] <ChoHag> There's a Deffinitive Guide To Just About Everything On Solaris:
[22:22:08] <ChoHag> rm -rf /
[22:22:32] <workdammit> yeah it's not my choice to use solaris, i can't stand it
[22:23:45] <workdammit> i see dkfilter and dk_milter, anybody have a preference?
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[22:44:57] <HenZo> hey all - I'm looking at my transport file and I'm trying to determine if there's a way to specify a relay host for * at my dot domain, but deliver mail directly to individual hosts as in the example * at myhost dot my.domain
[22:45:38] <HenZo> Is that possible on a global level or would I have to enter a transport line for each individual host that I wish to deliver mail to? (which would suck)
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[23:18:04] <adj> with virtual domain hosting in postfix, if i send from a virtual host won't the mail server send a HELO with the non-virtual domain?
[23:18:18] <adj> wouldnt that break the fqdn requirement for most sending mail servers?
[23:18:39] <adj> i suppose the answer is to set spf record for the virtual domains, but i'm not 100% sure about this
[23:20:05] <seekwill> Sending servers generally don't care what the banner says
[23:20:22] <adj> seekwill: but the receiving server does
[23:20:37] <seekwill> oh, I see what you mean
[23:20:51] <adj> if my server sends mail for domain1.org, but the server sends a HELO domain0.org, i have a problem. it will likely get tagged as spam
[23:20:59] <seekwill> Yeah
[23:21:14] <seekwill> Sorry, read that wrong. That is definitely an issue!
[23:21:28] <adj> i'm certain there is a way to do this..
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[23:26:11] <omry> I have a a postfix server currently used only to send emails. I am trying to forward root emails to myself, and the emails to root bounce with "loops back to myself". the domain I am trying to send to is not hosted on the same machine. any idea?
[23:26:43] <omry> (I forwarded using .forward file in ~root)
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[23:47:00] <googlah> omry: You can try to edit /etc/aliases for that purpose.
[23:47:23] <googlah> e.g root: omry  (If it is a user on the system)
[23:48:28] <omry> googlah, ah, I somehow have this already, and I think it explains the loop because omry is aliased to an address which is on this machine (but forwards again, this time using .forward)
[23:48:31] <omry> thanks.
[23:49:18] <omry> ah, was looking a the wrong bog
[23:49:19] <omry> box
[23:49:50] <HenZo> I'm looking at my transport file and I'm trying to determine if there's a way to specify a relay host for * at my dot domain, but deliver mail directly to individual hosts as in the example * at myhost dot my.domain
[23:50:00] <HenZo> Is that possible on a global level or would I have to enter a transport line for each individual host that I wish to deliver mail to? (which would suck)
[23:50:36] <omry> googlah, nope, didn't help/
[23:50:53] <omry> same error.
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[23:58:26] <HenZo> Does anyone even know what I'm talking about? Maybe I'm wording it wrong. :(
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