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[00:24:13] <_RiCo_> at the install from postfix coming the error, creating new user(s) and group(s) ... failed
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[00:24:35] <_RiCo_> how can i fix it
[00:25:33] <claudio> hello!
[00:26:24] <vice-versa> 250-claudio
[00:27:03] <claudio> im from Argentina, i dont speak a good english
[00:27:12] <claudio> i need help
[00:27:29] <vice-versa> with English or postfix?
[00:28:09] <brd> vice-versa: one or the other huh?
[00:28:14] <claudio> both
[00:28:19] <claudio> jajaja
[00:28:26] <claudio> postfix
[00:28:44] <vice-versa> brd: hehe, yup
[00:29:30] <claudio> look ,  im installing and configuration postfix with cyrus and mysql
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[00:29:49] * vice-versa looks
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[00:30:50] <claudio> everything was going well, but when i run cyradm --user cyrus --server localhost --auth plain
[00:31:06] <claudio> i cant connect and the log files
[00:31:14] <claudio> Sep 15 19:13:53 localhost imap[18080]: badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1] PLAIN [SASL(-13): authentication failure: Password verification failed]
[00:31:14] <claudio> Sep 15 19:14:35 localhost imap[18080]: badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1] plaintext cyrus SASL(-13): authentication failure: checkpass failed
[00:31:46] <claudio> the user cyrus I did
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[00:32:28] <pickcoder> that does not look like a postfix log
[00:32:50] <claudio> /var/log/maillog
[00:32:56] <pickcoder> claudio: it's IMAP
[00:33:00] <pickcoder> not postfix/SMTP
[00:33:01] <vice-versa> !pop
[00:33:02] <knoba> vice-versa: "pop" : postfix is not a pop or imap server
[00:33:34] <pickcoder> I dunno if there's a Cyrus channel
[00:33:35] <claudio> yez, maybe yours can help me
[00:33:44] <claudio> = ( buuuuuaaaaa
[00:33:47] * pickcoder doesn't use cyrus
[00:34:45] <claudio> i thing, how im install postfix with cyrus you can help me
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[00:36:56] <vice-versa> !sasl
[00:36:57] <knoba> vice-versa: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[00:37:02] <vice-versa> !cyrus
[00:37:03] <knoba> vice-versa: "cyrus" : Cyrus-SASL See http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/
[00:38:03] <claudio> thanks
[00:38:28] <claudio> bya bye
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[00:38:35] <vice-versa> cya
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[00:44:18] <Sailias> i am having problems authenticating users because apparently mysql port needs to be changed.
[00:44:43] <Sailias> root@mail:/var/log# netstat -tap | grep -i mysql
[00:44:43] <Sailias> tcp        0      0 localhost:mysql         *:*                     LISTEN      3601/mysqld
[00:46:32] <Sailias> mail pop3d: authentication error: Input/output error
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[01:13:36] <Sailias> mail authdaemond: failed to connect to mysql server (server=localhost , userid=mailadmin ): Unknown MySQ
[01:13:36] <Sailias> L server host 'localhost ' (1)
[01:13:52] <Sailias> any ideas?
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[01:15:37] <Sailias> in pastebin: http://rafb.net/p/z6y7we78.html
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[01:17:39] <impulze> localhost != 'localhost '
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[01:23:15] <Sailias> let me verify that
[01:23:20] <Sailias> thank you for the response
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[01:25:52] <impulze> yw
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[01:37:32] <Sailias> impulze, you were absolutely right.
[01:37:33] <Sailias> wow!
[01:37:45] <Sailias> but i'm getting another error, it's defaulting to user: admin
[01:38:04] <impulze> i'm sorry i'm not familar with database setup of postfix :)
[01:38:18] <impulze> need to wait for someone else :P
[01:38:40] <Sailias> lol, well that was great
[01:38:44] <Sailias> it helped alot
[01:38:46] <Sailias> thanks again
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[02:32:15] <invitado> hi, how i can see the postfix version on my server?
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[02:53:11] <lunaphyte> invitado: postconf mail_version
[02:58:45] <duli> I'd like to use an externel Mailhop relay service as that provided by DynDNS. Is there a way of configuring my postfix to accept mail only from their smtp client?
[03:00:26] <xpoint> add there ip to mynetworks will do
[03:01:07] <xpoint> or better use smtp auth, as its most secure
[03:01:25] <duli> xpoint: hum
[03:01:29] <xpoint> but if smtp auth works you need static ip
[03:01:55] <duli> xpoint: but how could I use smtp auth? I don't know how they would send mail
[03:02:24] <xpoint> none send mail to you when you use dyndns
[03:02:57] <xpoint> i do not know if dyndns uses etrn from postfix
[03:03:30] <duli> xpoint: no no... I would configure my MX records to mx1.mailhop.org. Then all mail will be delivered to dyndns server
[03:03:44] <duli> then they will relay it for me, until my server is up
[03:03:46] <xpoint> but since there ip is static, then its safe to add them to mynetworks in YOUR postfix
[03:04:02] <duli> xpoint: ok, it's a nice tip
[03:04:31] <xpoint> and firewall all other ips out !
[03:04:43] <duli> xpoint: any other concern I should have by opening my firewall?
[03:04:51] <xpoint> no
[03:05:01] <duli> xpoint: hum, how could I do that? I have a 3com router
[03:05:14] <xpoint> should be default drop policy, and port 25 open for there ip
[03:05:32] <duli> xpoint: hum, tks. I'll take a look
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[03:11:23] <ekontsevoy> exit
[03:11:24] <ekontsevoy> exit
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[04:42:20] <hacim> i've upgraded to 2.5.4 of postfix, and I'm getting tons of certificate verification errors
[04:42:26] <hacim> even for certificates that I own
[04:42:54] <hacim> lots of ... Untrusted TLS connection established
[04:44:00] <hacim> how can I fix that?
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[04:52:02] <Tapout> hacim, workaround.org has a howto and in it, it covers certificates
[04:52:07] <Tapout> i used it for dovecot+postfix
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[05:00:47] <hacim> Tapout: it does have certificates, but only talks about self-signed certificates, etc.
[05:01:01] <hacim> Tapout: the problem is that postfix is not validating my purchased certificate properly
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[05:03:53] <vice-versa> read the release notes
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[05:34:46] <hacim> vice-versa: yeah, i see it in there, but it doesn't tell me how to get the cert trusted
[05:34:49] <hacim>   - "Untrusted" means that the certificate trust chain is invalid,
[05:34:52] <hacim>     or that the root CA is not trusted.
[05:34:52] <hacim> ok...
[05:36:47] <hacim> but how do I get it trusted... its a valid CA
[05:37:02] <jeev> uh
[05:37:07] <jeev> maybe you should buy one
[05:37:09] <jeev> and not generate it
[05:39:12] <hacim> jeev: what makes you think I generated one?
[05:39:50] <hacim> its a purchased certificate...
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[05:41:08] <jeev> ah
[05:41:10] <jeev> good luck lol
[05:41:52] <hacim> all I need to know is where postfix pulls its trusted roots from
[05:43:41] <Sailias> hacim:  /etc/postfix/main.cf
[05:43:43] <Sailias> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/mailcert.key
[05:43:50] <Sailias> make sure it ends with .key not .cert
[05:43:55] <hacim> thats the key file...
[05:44:08] <hacim> i'm talking about what CA roots that postfix trusts
[05:44:15] <hacim> for clients that connect TO it
[05:44:21] <hacim> and present TLS certificates
[05:44:51] <hacim> smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[05:44:56] <hacim> thats what I want
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[05:50:41] <jmardonesk> hi all, i have a litle migration trouble, I have a centos 5 and a old gentoo server, when i migrate the configs i have an error in the web access of the clients. here are the error log and the postconf http://pastebin.com/d509fc0bf
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[05:52:38] <cmatheson> jmardonesk: looks like you don't have mysql support in your postfix installation--maybe you need to install a postfix-mysql package or something?
[06:00:08] <jmardonesk> the default postfix in Centos 5 dont have mysql support?
[06:00:36] <vice-versa> postconf -m
[06:00:46] <vice-versa> !tell hacim smtpd_tls_CApath
[06:00:47] <knoba> vice-versa: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[06:01:05] <hacim> vice-versa: found it already, thanks
[06:01:09] <vice-versa> !maincf smtpd_tls_CApath
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[06:17:09] <hacim> what are anonymous tls connections?
[06:17:24] <hacim> Sep 15 21:15:40 mx1 postfix/smtpd[26197]: Anonymous TLS connection established from slashdot.org[0.0.0.0]: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
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[06:37:46] <hacim> arg, I can't figure out why my TLS connections are untrusted
[06:38:58] <hacim> certificate verification failed ... not designated for use as a client certificate  ??
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[07:04:26] <Sailias> i'm getting the following error in my auth.log http://rafb.net/p/wc1SK663.html
[07:22:31] <hacim> Sailias: you dont have db set
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[09:11:03] <msshams> i get these errors in mail.log http://debian.pastebin.com/m26d31e2a i haven't any result after running "telnet localhost smtp". can you help me please?
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[09:14:00] <chadmaynard> should that be /etc/postfix/aliases.db? Did you run postmap?
[09:14:26] <sysmonk> chadmaynard: right, almost :)
[09:14:36] <sysmonk> chadmaynard: except it being /etc/aliases
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[09:16:21] <chadmaynard> /etc/aliases is correct?
[09:16:40] <sysmonk> yes
[09:17:06] <sysmonk> chadmaynard: postconf -d alias_maps alias_database
[09:17:42] <chadmaynard> alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases
[09:17:51] <sysmonk> debian?
[09:17:51] <sysmonk> ;)
[09:17:52] * chadmaynard shrugs
[09:18:47] <chadmaynard> well anyway... wherever it is postmap it
[09:18:58] <sysmonk> chadmaynard: what distro are you using?
[09:19:12] <chadmaynard> on the one i pasted from? gentoo
[09:19:18] <sysmonk> ah
[09:20:13] <msshams> can you please tell me about /etc/aliases content?
[09:21:34] <chadmaynard> more /etc/aliases
[09:22:10] <chadmaynard> it contains [SURPRISE!] aliases
[09:22:38] <sysmonk> oh my, what a nice surprise! :))
[09:28:08] <msshams> chadmaynard: please tell me how can i fix this error: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: No such file or directory
[09:28:27] <chadmaynard> postmap /etc/aliases
[09:31:54] <msshams> this command say:
[09:31:54] <msshams> postmap: warning: /etc/aliases, line 1: expected format: key whitespace value
[09:31:54] <msshams> postmap: warning: /etc/aliases, line 2: record is in "key: value" format; is this an alias file?
[09:32:48] <f3ew> postalias
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[09:33:55] <sysmonk> or newaliases
[09:34:13] * chadmaynard = postfix n00b =(
[09:35:13] <msshams> f3ew: i should type "postalias /etc/aliases" ?
[09:35:19] <sysmonk> chadmaynard: s/postfix//
[09:35:26] <sysmonk> ;PPP
[09:36:02] <chadmaynard> sysmonk: don't tell s-e-e-k-w-i-l-l
[09:37:00] <sysmonk> oh, that's not a problem, i can terrorize seekwill
[09:37:54] <chadmaynard> seek-will says you are his minion =0
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[09:45:53] <msshams> f3ew: i should type "postalias /etc/aliases" ?
[09:48:05] <f3ew> yes
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[09:54:45] <sysmonk> sooo, /mode #postfix +b cpm!*@* ....
[09:54:45] <sysmonk> :PP
[09:54:49] <jduggan_> lol @ minion
[09:55:01] <sysmonk> oh, and /kb chadmaynard minion!!!
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[09:56:12] <chadmaynard> hey it wasn't me! It was will. I promise.
[09:56:30] <sysmonk> sure it was.... sure...
[09:56:38] <sysmonk> and that ban was issued by somebody else, not me, i pomise!
[09:56:44] <sysmonk> promise, even
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[09:57:10] <chadmaynard> I have logs to prove it
[09:57:20] <sysmonk> i have logs to prove that too
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[09:57:35] * sysmonk runs sed -e "s/sysmonk/somebody_else/g"
[09:58:19] <chadmaynard> who is somebody_else
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[09:59:50] <msshams> f3ew: thank you my friend. problem solved
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[10:12:31] <babo> i've set my server to forward messages from my business account to my gmail account. will gmail be able to pick out which messages are spam and which are not, or will i set everything from that server as spam if i mark it down as so ...
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[10:15:17] <kexman> hi
[10:15:23] <kexman> anyone using dkim with postfix ?
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[11:13:26] <sysmonk> any suggestions on what X header i should use to define which app sent the mail?
[11:13:29] <sysmonk> XMailer maybe ?
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[11:28:31] <szaszka> Hi sysmonk, you have to set the X-Mailer: header
[11:29:02] <sysmonk> szaszka: s/have to/might/
[11:29:12] <sysmonk> it's not a requirement, X-headers aren't a standard afaik
[11:29:33] <sysmonk> and yeah, i've already set it to X-Mailer
[11:31:56] <shasta> sysmonk, User-Agent? :-)
[11:32:29] <shasta> at least that's what most MUA set
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[11:35:17] <szaszka> I need a little help too...
[11:35:45] <szaszka> Thus I read the postfix debugger howto, I can't get any debug message...
[11:35:54] <shasta> !debug
[11:35:56] <knoba> shasta: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
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[11:42:12] <sysmonk> shasta: nah, it's a web app, and i need that only so people could create filter rules based on that
[11:45:07] <shasta> SquirrelMail also sets UserAgent
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[12:00:38] <szaszka> So, guys, as I said previously, I read allready the postfix debug howto, and tried to resolve the problem myself, but cannot manage to resolve this problem, so please try to help me. Describing the problem follows:
[12:05:00] <szaszka> If I comment out the first line in the master.cf (smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd), then the postfix starts, otherwise it gives the postfix/master[5154]: fatal: 127.0.0.1:smtp: Servname not supported for ai_socktype error message.
[12:05:33] <szaszka> I tried to enable debugging as described in the postfix debug howto, but can't get out more verbose error message
[12:06:08] <shasta> szaszka, grep smtp /etc/services
[12:07:07] <szaszka> I checked that already, seems ok for me (smtp            25/tcp          mail            # Simple Mail Transfer)
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[12:09:08] <szaszka> I tried even to start the smtpd manually with the /usr/lib64/postfix/smtpd -D command, but it informed me to not to do that :-) ()postfix/smtpd[4435]: fatal: do not run this command by hand
[12:09:36] <shasta> can postfix ue read /etc/services?
[12:09:41] <shasta> s/ue/user/
[12:10:40] <szaszka> Yes, it's world readable, both the /etc directory and the services file.
[12:12:09] <shasta> hm, pastebin your postconf -n
[12:12:21] <szaszka> I convinced, that the problem is with my system, not with the postfix itself, because amavisd and spamd is not starting too... But my only chance to figure out what's the problem is debugging postfix (I don't know perl enough to figure out what's the problem with spamassassin and amavis)
[12:13:32] <shasta> host 127.0.0.1
[12:13:39] <shasta> grep 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts
[12:14:37] <szaszka> I have no (yet) the host command installed
[12:14:48] <szaszka> The result of the grep
[12:14:57] <szaszka> 127.0.0.1       localhost
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[12:17:02] <szaszka> Here's the output of the postconf -n command: http://pastebin.ca/1204153
[12:18:21] <shasta> anything changes if you change inet_interfaces to "all" ?
[12:18:33] <szaszka> will check...
[12:19:44] <szaszka> no, the same error:  postfix/master[4551]: fatal: 0.0.0.0:smtp: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[12:21:29] <shasta> some b0rken system :(
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[12:22:54] <szaszka> Ok, Thank You anyway!
[12:23:59] <shasta> maybe it's a ipv6-only stack? :)
[12:24:54] <szaszka> I thinked too, that may be that it's related to ipv6, and recompiled postfix without the ipv6, but did not helped...
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[12:25:39] <szaszka> I installed the host command, and the output of host 127.0.0.1 seams ok too: 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer localhost.
[12:26:15] <szaszka> It would be nice if I could trace somehow the smtpd prgram, to see, what's exactly the problem...
[12:27:34] <shasta> probably socket(2) call returns EAFNOSUPPORT
[12:36:52] <sysmonk> oh my, /me full
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[13:14:56] <szaszka> shasta, I found the problem: the /etc/nsswitch.conf file was wrong. I changed the following line in the /etc/nsswitch.conf from services: ldap [NOTFOUND=return] files to services: files and now it starts...
[13:15:16] <szaszka> Thank You for Your help!
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[13:15:19] <sysmonk> must be bubuntu?
[13:15:28] <sysmonk> or some suse stuff, right?
[13:15:49] <szaszka> No, it's gento, and I copied the nsswith.ldap over the /etc/nsswitch.conf
[13:16:04] <sysmonk> ah
[13:16:16] <szaszka> but I don't use ldap to store the services, I use it just for storing the user accounts
[13:16:46] <szaszka> Thank You guys again!
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[14:09:28] <IDCLIP> hello
[14:09:45] <IDCLIP> is postfix able to send mail only to a specific tld and bounce the rest?
[14:09:57] <IDCLIP> or even, to a specific domain only?
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[14:12:18] <Henry-Nicolas> Hello everybody,
[14:12:37] <Henry-Nicolas> I'v setup postfix patched with VDA on lenny
[14:13:28] <Henry-Nicolas> and quota works but when a user is over quota, the bounce email is sent with no from address, thus it is ignored by the smtp destination server, any idea on howto fix that ?
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[14:27:29] <IDCLIP> ive got a client that uses a smarthost which is running postfix, now is the smarthost thats running postfix able to only send email coming from the client to a specific domain? so the client is only able to mail to test.com instead of the entire internet?
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[14:32:52] <f3ew> yes
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[14:36:36] <mandragor> I'm having trouble using a legitimate SSL-certificate on our Postfix-server, if I replace the self-signed crt- and key-files with the real ones my clients get a "TLS not available due to local problem"-error
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[14:36:52] <Internat> mail.log doesnt have anything helpful?
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[14:39:03] <Internat> weedar: ^^
[14:39:40] <weedar> Internat: I can't see anything, no. I've tried greping for the name of the crt and key-file but nothing
[14:39:57] <Internat> how about examining the entire file
[14:40:01] <weedar> I've used the crt and key file on another server for SSL and Apache with success
[14:40:14] <weedar> Internat: I'm working on it, it's huge... :o)
[14:41:09] <Internat> it might be permissions related..
[14:41:17] <Internat> u could try mail.err if you have that file.. might be easier
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[14:51:12] <juro> hi, I have a question regarding "fully qualified domain name"
[14:52:33] <juro> if I own mydomain.com and mydomain.de and both reside at my hoster but I want to run a local postfix server (with spamassassin, courier-imap, etc), where fetchmail fetches the emails from my hoster, what would I use as a fqdn?
[14:53:14] <weedar> Internat: no such luck, I'll just have to parse it manually I guess :)
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[15:00:56] <IDCLIP> ive got a client that uses a smarthost which is running postfix, now is the smarthost thats running postfix able to only send email coming from the client to a specific domain? so the client is only able to mail to test.com instead of the entire internet?
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[15:04:08] <lunaphyte_> IDCLIP: sure.
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[15:07:01] <IDCLIP> lunaphyte: any idea how?
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[15:12:04] <lunaphyte_> oh sure, i've got all sort of ideas.
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[15:12:06] <lunaphyte_> :)
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[15:13:14] <ShishKabab> Hello. I've installed Postfix for the first time on my server. All e-mail I send to root@<The server> is correctly forwarded to my e-mail Yahoo address. Now I've made a virtual domain tweedekans.org with a virtual mailbox vincent. However, the mail that I send to vincent at tweedekans dot org doesn't arrive. About an hour later the server send me a mail saying the mail has been delayed and that it's still retrying. I'm probably making a stupid mistake. Could a
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[15:16:09] <shasta> the email probably also says WHY it was delayed.
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[15:17:23] <ShishKabab> It says mail transport unavailable.
[15:17:29] <weedar> Internat: want to know what the problem was? Mistyped the filename of the .crt file....*dies of embarassment*
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[15:21:52] <IDCLIP> luna can you try to point me in the right direction?
[15:22:22] <rob0> !access
[15:22:24] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.
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[15:23:41] <cpm> !rob0
[15:23:42] <knoba> cpm: "rob0" : a pathetic bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)
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[15:24:52] <roe_> I have a mail gateway accepting email for multiple domains, I have all the domains in the "mydomains", I have an entry in transport for what do do with all the different domains, and I have a recipient_address table that lists all valid email addresses
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[15:26:37] <roe_> for some reason, on the domain I just set up, I get "Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address:"
[15:26:41] <roe_> errors
[15:26:57] <roe_> when an outside mailserver tries to send mail to the new domain
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[15:31:55] <dft> will postfix work on a system with multiple IP addresses aliased on one interface each with it's own dns A and MX record?
[15:32:07] <dft> make that one postfix instance as well
[15:33:24] <roe_> are you sure aliased is the right word? if so I do not know what you mean.
[15:33:50] <roe_> you have multiple ips assigned to one physical interface?
[15:33:53] <sysmonk> roe_: ifconfig blah0 alias xx.xx.xx.xx
[15:34:04] <sysmonk> or in lunix world ifconfig eth0:1
[15:34:11] <dft> sorry dont' confuse my use of aliase with email address aliasing
[15:34:22] <sysmonk> dft: and yes, it should work
[15:34:26] * roe_ lives squarely in the linux world
[15:34:44] <dft> ty sysmonk
[15:35:25] <dft> sysmonk: you live in the unix/bsd world?
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[15:36:32] <dft> my concern would be that their might be some issues raised with myhostname
[15:36:39] <dft> mydomain stays the same
[15:37:17] <dft> Other than that, the rest is unchanged
[15:42:25] <vice-versa> vanity issues?
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[16:05:34] <rob0> Inbound will use as many IP addresses as you can throw at it. By default all are bound on port 25. But outbound will only use the primary IP address on the interface of the default route.
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[16:05:58] <rob0> seems like a waste of IP addresses to me
[16:06:24] <vice-versa> indeed
[16:06:27] <rob0> just point all your MX and A records at the same IP
[16:06:57] <roe_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1204322
[16:06:59] <roe_> I am stuck
[16:07:34] <roe_> this is a log from the mail gateway, which should be able to relay that mail to the destination mail server
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[16:08:30] <rob0> which one is you, 207.158.37.44 ?
[16:08:43] <roe_> that is the destination
[16:08:48] <roe_> both are me
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[16:09:54] <rob0> 207.158.37.44 seems to have a check_recipient_access reject rule.
[16:10:14] <roe_> but it doesn't
[16:10:22] <rob0> or, reject in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[16:11:22] <rob0> you ought to fix the rDNS to match the hostname, btw
[16:12:28] <roe_> it is sending all mail through another server which has the proper rDNS
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[16:21:02] <roe_> I have  permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks,reject in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
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[16:21:14] <roe_> and the relaying server is listed in "mynetworks
[16:21:15] <roe_> "
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[16:27:30] <gpled> two table lookup?  is there a way to say:  reject email for (this email address) if the email is from (this cidr).
[16:28:26] <rob0> hs-out-0708.google.com[64.233.178.247] is not in mynetworks
[16:28:29] <rob0> 14:10 < rob0> or, reject in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[16:28:52] <rob0> If you tell it to reject, expect it to happen. :)
[16:29:11] <rob0> !restriction_class
[16:29:12] <knoba> rob0: "restriction_class" : postfix per-client/user/etc. access control http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[16:29:23] <rob0> ^^ gpled
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[16:30:03] <roe_> google is sending to gateway, the gateway, the gateway then turns around and delivers it to the proper server, the smtpd_recipient_restrictions I pasted are for the destination server not the gateway (the one receiving mail from google).
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[16:31:29] <roe_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1204339
[16:31:48] <roe_> that is the smtpd_recipient_restrictions of the gateway
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[16:34:53] <vice-versa> roe_: not related to your issue, but using cbl.abuseat.org is redundant as it's included in zen.spamhaus.org
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[16:35:12] <roe_> ok, I'll clean that up
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[16:38:24] <hacim> does postfix 2.3 have trouble verifying chained certificates?
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[16:38:54] <rob0> hacim, only on third Tuesdays
[16:39:10] <hacim> rob0: it seems like thats today!!
[16:39:20] <rob0> ouch!
[16:39:47] <hacim> i can verify the STARTTLS certificate chain with openssl s_client (or gnutls-bin)
[16:40:13] <hacim> but when postfix connects, it complains, "num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain'
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[16:42:43] <gpled> thanks, will check that out
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[16:56:38] <ufk> hi
[16:57:44] <ufk> postfix works properly on a specific domain that i bought. how do i configure it to support several domains? which means that i want to send email once from one domain, and once from another, how can it be done ?
[17:00:31] <vice-versa> !virtual
[17:00:32] <knoba> vice-versa: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[17:14:04] <ufk> i read it
[17:14:20] <ufk> but i  still don't know how to configure that when i send mails i'll be able to choose from which domain it is
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[17:15:02] <rob0> ufk, read the documentation for whatever mail client you're using, set the sender addresses as you wish.
[17:15:30] <ufk> oh i didn't know that that's all i need. that's awesome
[17:15:33] <ufk> i'll check thanks
[17:21:57] <brd> it is kind of sad, actually
[17:22:15] <ufk> ahmm.. what's sad ?
[17:22:30] <brd> forging email is childs play
[17:22:39] <ufk> oh no...
[17:22:48] <ufk> i host several domains at my linux server
[17:22:57] <brd> so?
[17:23:08] <ufk> my domain is tux-in.com and i'm about to open a site for it
[17:23:17] <ufk> and my brother's domain is wikifeet.com and he already opened a site for it
[17:23:27] <ufk> and he wants that mails that are sent from his website will show the domain wikifeet.com
[17:23:29] <brd> I can send an email to you from president at whitehouse dot gov telling you to jump up and down like a kangaroo
[17:23:39] <vice-versa> what he meant was you should know about that loooong before you every admin a mail server
[17:24:21] <ufk> i'm not into forging stuff sorry :)
[17:24:43] <vice-versa> not that specifically, how to use a mail client
[17:24:56] <brd> unfortunately it is very easy, is what I'm trying to get at
[17:25:20] <ufk> ok ... so are very smart brd! happy now ?
[17:25:26] <ufk> so you are..
[17:25:46] <ufk> i wanted to make sure that i'll configure things probably without it look like i'm forging something.
[17:26:03] <ufk> and i use mailx or gmail to send mails and it doesn't have a default from value
[17:26:21] <ufk> welp anyhow.. thanks for your help
[17:26:30] <brd> lol
[17:26:31] <brd> no
[17:26:33] <brd> :P
[17:26:37] <brd> good luck :)
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[17:27:32] <vice-versa> email is going to hell I tell ya :(
[17:27:45] <roe_> http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php
[17:27:51] <brd> exactly
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[17:28:15] <vice-versa> roe_: index.php ?
[17:28:22] <roe_> ha
[17:28:25] <roe_> I'm an idot
[17:28:26] <roe_> idiot
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[17:28:31] <vice-versa> hehe
[17:28:31] <roe_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1204391
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[17:30:05] <jeev> any law people here
[17:30:37] * roe_ hasn't seen judge dredd in a while
[17:30:45] <brd> roe_: looks like you need relay_domains/relay_recipient_maps/
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[17:31:04] <jeev> :<
[17:31:04] <vice-versa> I here there's a new sheriff in town
[17:31:16] <brd> oh, and transport maps
[17:31:23] <jeev> corporate question :/
[17:31:39] <roe_> brd, that is defined on server A already
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[17:31:57] <brd> roe_: on server a
[17:32:13] <roe_> right, already there
[17:32:37] <brd> er, sorry
[17:33:11] <brd> so server a doesn't have a jobs@village email address?
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[17:33:51] <roe_> correct, jobs@village is on server b
[17:34:36] <BeerSerc> hi there. Is there a way to obtain statistics from the mail.log with postgrey running? I imagine something like "2k mails received, 1.8k mails greylisted, 1.7k mails rejected" or similar.
[17:36:51] <brd> roe_: you have to accept it on a..  it seems gmail is doing sender verification :(
[17:37:10] <roe_> gmail is the sender
[17:37:20] <roe_> so it might be that gmail is doing recipient verification
[17:37:27] <robtone_> BeerSerc, you can use grep(1), wc(1), less(1) or pflogsumm
[17:38:08] <roe_> and I have relay_recipient_maps configured on server A with jobs@ in the list
[17:38:26] <brd> roe_: wow.. I should wake up.. sorry.. so server b is rejecting mail from server a
[17:38:31] <roe_> right
[17:38:37] <roe_> but I'm not sure why
[17:38:42] <brd> roe_: add server a's ip to my networks
[17:38:44] <brd> on server b
[17:38:46] <roe_> it is there
[17:38:59] <roe_> the dns name at least
[17:39:09] <brd> reload postfix?
[17:39:14] <roe_> done
[17:39:19] <roe_> no change
[17:39:31] <roe_> the only oddity is that jobs is an alias on server b
[17:39:35] <brd> where is the jobs@ listed? postmap that file
[17:39:37] <vice-versa> BeerSerc: not that I know of, I recently had to whip something together in perl for this, sample output of a simple summary http://pastebin.ca/1204403
[17:39:40] <brd> or newaliases?
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[17:40:10] <roe_> well I have postmapped the recipient_maps on server A and I have newaliased on server B
[17:42:04] <roe_> while on server B I can successfully deliver to jobs@ while telnetting to localhost
[17:42:40] <BeerSerc> vice-versa: thx, I'll have a look
[17:42:48] <roe_> and trying a real mail box, I get the same log message
[17:42:54] <roe_> so it isn't an aliasing thing
[17:43:17] <my_haz> whats the thing i am lookfor if i want to get mail from foo at domain dot com if `foo` is not a user, i want to send foo's mail to `bar` who is a user?
[17:47:43] <roe_> http://pastebin.ca/1204410 could this be part of the issue?
[17:47:46] <roe_> or unrelated?
[17:49:02] <vice-versa> no, they are just warnings, but you should correct the issue nonetheless
[17:49:10] <BeerSerc> vice-versa: ah It's just the output. would you nopaste the perl script for me?
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[17:49:27] <vice-versa> BeerSerc: can't
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[17:50:31] <vice-versa> BeerSerc: two issues, it's metalog specific atm, and we have strict policies here about source code unfortunately
[17:51:30] <BeerSerc> vice-versa: OK, no problem. If I find or write something myself I will tell here.
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[17:54:36] <dft> BeerSerc: why not use pfloggsum?
[17:55:33] <BeerSerc> dft: I dont know it, I'll have a look
[17:55:50] <dft> BeerSerc: what platform are you on?
[17:56:06] <BeerSerc> debian
[17:56:20] <dft> check apt-get, it may be in the repositories
[17:56:27] <BeerSerc> it is, just installed it
[17:57:03] <dft> also check this
[17:57:06] <dft> http://www.howtoforge.com/mailgraph_pflogsumm_debian_etch
[17:57:16] <roe_> I don't need myhostname to match mydomain right?
[17:57:48] <BeerSerc> dft: nice, thanks
[17:57:50] <roe_> because I am at a complete loss here
[17:58:05] <roe_> I figured it would be a stupid typo, but I have been over this config a dozen times
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[18:04:51] <opt1k> hi, what should i put in FQDN field when configuring postfix?
[18:04:56] <opt1k> the name of my isp?
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[18:05:56] <vice-versa> roe_: I didn't look over your pastes thoroughly, but from what I took from the first pastebin it looked to me as if the google mta was connecting directly to the final destination and from what I've gotten out of this it should have been delivered to the gateway, then the gateway to the final destination
[18:06:28] <vice-versa> opt1k: postfix doesn't have such a parameter
[18:07:00] <opt1k> vice-versa: sry, my bad, didn't read carefully, the parameter is "System Mail Name"
[18:07:20] <vice-versa> ditto
[18:07:41] <opt1k> ditto?
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[18:09:05] <vice-versa> yes, means same thing, are you using a OS specific install/config script by any chance?
[18:09:29] <opt1k> vice-versa: yes, i am installing it from ubuntu repos.
[18:11:05] <vice-versa> do you have a mx record defined for the domain?
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[18:11:48] <opt1k> uhh.. i don't know actually, how can i check this?
[18:12:02] <vice-versa> !mxrecord
[18:12:03] <knoba> vice-versa: "mxrecord" : a DNS resource record specifying a host name that Internet mail for a recipients' domain is to be routed to. The host name assigned to the MX record must have a corresponding A record, not a CNAME, and the A record must not resolve to an IP address. A domain can have multiple exchangers with multiple MX records having varying levels of priority
[18:12:36] <opt1k> no, i don't think i have mxrecord
[18:14:14] <lunaphyte_> in wonder if guinness would allow an entry in the guinness book of world records for most number of world records in the guinness book of world records?
[18:17:19] <vice-versa> opt1k: just your hostname and domain name for now then, host.example.com, it's not engraved in stone and can be changed as needed after the install
[18:17:29] <soren> How about a world record of "most world records held" in most books of world records?
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[18:18:37] <opt1k> vice-versa: kk, thanks..
[18:19:55] <opt1k> vice-versa: btw, what client is better to use with postfix? mailx or mutt?
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[18:26:47] <gpled> permit means, you passed this test, but if something else triggers, you might not pass ?
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[18:28:40] <ek> opt1k: That's just personal preference really.
[18:30:22] <opt1k> ek: kk, i'll try out both of them .. =)
[18:30:39] <brd> they are pretty different programs
[18:31:00] <ek> Yes they are.
[18:31:27] <ek> Generally the question is 'pine or mutt'. Rarely do I even hear about 'mailx'.
[18:31:43] <growltiger_> elm
[18:31:51] <ek> \o/
[18:32:17] <opt1k> ek: i'll try out pine too
[18:32:33] <growltiger_> alpine is the newest incarnation i think
[18:32:37] <ek> opt1k: What exactly do you plan to do with them?
[18:32:43] <ek> growltiger_: Yeah. I believe you're correct.
[18:33:30] <opt1k> ek: well it'd  be nice if one of those clients has the possibillity to send anonymous mail
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[18:33:42] <growltiger_> has nothing to do with the client
[18:33:50] <growltiger_> has everything to do with the server
[18:34:02] <growltiger_> check out anon.penet.fi
[18:34:08] <opt1k> ty growltiger_
[18:35:02] <growltiger_> oh wait, that was shutdown like 12 years ago
[18:35:29] <opt1k> hehe i noticed just now :D
[18:35:34] <growltiger_> you wont find too many anon remailers any more because spammers will use them
[18:36:42] <opt1k> growltiger_: heh, when i was on winxp i coded myself one in vb.net, but since i'm new to linux, haven't been able to do that yet :D
[18:38:11] <growltiger_> the only way you could anon email is to maybe use tor, but then good luck finding an smtp server you can connect to from tor
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[18:38:42] <opt1k> growltiger_: yep, i've noticed.. gave up on that option some time ago :D
[18:38:56] * shasta smells a spammer
[18:39:10] <opt1k> shasta smell again :D
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[18:56:10] <xnixmt> anyone in here know of a page or anything that documetns the formatting/fields of the address verify cache btree file produced by the verify process
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[18:59:13] <no0tic> hi, I'm trying to use SASL for smtp authentication over mysql but it doesn't work; logs and probably other useful information here: http://pastebin.ca/1204482
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[19:07:07] <xnixmt> anyone know much about the verify cache db file?
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[19:10:43] <gpled> xnixan: what are you trying to do?
[19:11:51] <no0tic> I'm using this guide http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[19:12:01] <gpled> sounds like you talking about address verification
[19:12:04] <gpled> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html
[19:17:00] <xnixmt> right
[19:17:03] <xnixmt> i have what i want all set up
[19:17:11] <opt1k> should i use procmail?
[19:17:18] <opt1k> (for local delivery)?
[19:17:21] <xnixmt> and it is using the address verify cache db
[19:17:32] <xnixmt> and i have records in it, but i want to know what all the fields in that database mean
[19:18:00] <xnixmt> i think the field format and stuff is intentionally undocumented :/
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[19:20:22] <opt1k> i get this error
[19:20:23] <opt1k>                    |+gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114] said:
[19:20:23] <opt1k>                    |    550-5.7.1 [78.1.113.180] The IP you're using to send
[19:20:23] <opt1k>                    |+gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.221.114] said:
[19:20:23] <opt1k>                    |    550-5.7.1 [78.1.113.180] The IP you're using to send
[19:20:27] <opt1k> cc sry
[19:20:41] <growltiger_> !pastebin
[19:20:42] <knoba> growltiger_: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.
[19:21:11] <jduggan_> gtfo
[19:21:12] <jduggan_> =]
[19:21:32] <opt1k> , sry, i cp'd wrong.. the error is: The IP you're using to send mail is not authorized
[19:21:44] <growltiger_> they might mean spf
[19:21:53] <growltiger_> you do have spf records, right?
[19:21:54] <opt1k> spf?
[19:22:23] <opt1k> what's spf? :D
[19:22:24] <growltiger_> oh wait, you are trying to use their smtp to send mail
[19:22:49] <growltiger_> you will need to click on help in your gmail account and search for smtp
[19:22:56] <opt1k> oh
[19:23:26] <opt1k> but i think the problem is in System mail host tho
[19:23:50] <opt1k> i'm using my isp's mail server... (mail.t-com.hr)
[19:24:22] <growltiger_> as a smarthost?
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[19:24:32] <opt1k> no no
[19:24:34] <opt1k> not smarthost
[19:24:37] <opt1k> Internet Site
[19:24:50] <Jailbait_> Damn it. Postfix trace service is not working - causing resending of messages... but I can't find anything other than "run a config-upgrade" - which does nothing for me. I've got a service in my master.cfg, and have 'trace_service_name = trace' (matching the master.cfg entry) in my main.cfg. Anyone have any ideas?
[19:27:51] <Jailbait_> This is a mostly-old config moved to a new machine (CentOS5), but again, (sorry) upgrade-configuration did nothing for me.
[19:29:55] <opt1k> growltiger_: any help?
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[19:47:36] <warnk> besides postfixadmin and webmin module, anyone know of any web gui for postfix that are decent?
[19:47:52] <cpm> who says those are decent?
[19:48:31] <warnk> well, not me
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[19:49:38] <Jailbait_> No one? trace problems?
[19:50:21] <warnk> s/decent/don't suck/
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[19:51:29] <cpm> well, I think web guis basically suck. So, I'm not a very good reference.
[19:58:30] <warnk> ditto. this is for client access though. i am trying to avoid postfixadmin - other projects look long abandoned though.
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[20:14:44] <dft> warnk: what do your clients need access to?
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[20:20:54] <warnk> dft: update pw, aliases. we have a couple users acting as domain admins (admin mailboxes/user/etc)
[20:21:45] <warnk> we already use postfixadmin, but to scale it down so our clients could cope with it would take too much. last i checked, PFA was a slopfest of php.
[20:28:01] <sysmonk> slopfest?
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[20:45:11] <warnk> sysmonk: sure is. maybe my install is severely out of date, but it was a pita coding a custom patch for it.
[20:45:38] <sysmonk> warnk: sorry, i'm not a native english speaker and i don't understand what slopfest is
[20:45:55] <warnk> oh, haha, sorry. i may have made that word up :)
[20:46:33] * warnk warns of patent pending
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[20:47:28] <sysmonk> so, what does that word mean? :)
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[20:48:11] <sysmonk> and, too late, microsoft logs this channel, the word was patented when you first used it
[20:48:52] <chadmaynard> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slopfest
[20:50:00] <sysmonk> heh
[20:50:38] <guilherme-jorge> hello all, I've a server running postfix and I've some doubts about fallback_relay config... Is it possible to send messages to fallback_relay after 2 or 3 attempts and not after the first fail??
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[21:06:36] <pepem_sk> hi, can someone please help with: dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connect failed to 127.0.0.1 (hosting): Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1' (4) - waiting for 1 seconds before retry ?
[21:07:05] <pepem_sk> i think i followed the how-to step by step
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[21:07:49] <pepem_sk> and i am stuck trying to start dovecot
[21:08:21] <shasta> !tell pepem_sk tutorial
[21:08:22] <knoba> pepem_sk: -> "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper (1 more message)
[21:08:48] <shasta> also, this is #postfix, unofficial support channel for Postfix MTA -- and not #dovecot
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[21:09:20] <roe_> vice-versa, I had a meeting, the logs were from the gateway mail server, so it google was connecting directly to the destination server nothing would be logged in the gateway
[21:10:25] <pepem_sk> shasta, knoba, - this channel was recommended in the how-to. also i think i understand what i was doing, problem is that it is not doing what was expected.
[21:11:41] <shasta> I tell you, your problem is _not_ related to postfix. your *dovecot* can't connect to your *mysql* server.
[21:11:50] <pepem_sk> ok, thanks
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[21:25:18] <Jailbait_> Last try today on this one:
[21:25:28] <Jailbait_> Postfix trace service is not working - causing resending of messages... but I can't find anything other than "run a config-upgrade" - which does nothing for me. I've got a service in my master.cfg, and have 'trace_service_name = trace' (matching the master.cfg entry) in my main.cfg. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:25:37] <Jailbait_> This is a mostly-old config moved to a new machine (CentOS5), but again, (sorry) upgrade-configuration did nothing for me.
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[22:06:54] <mcp> good evening. How do I make this with postfix: every email from @sender.com should be redirected to specific-user at recipient-domain dot com
[22:07:01] <mcp> ?
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[22:28:05] <echelon> what does "554 Relay access denied" mean?
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[22:30:44] <echelon> alester: you know what "554 Relay access denied" means?
[22:30:53] <alester> Sure.
[22:31:16] <echelon> what's it mean?
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[22:32:19] <alester> It means that it's denying relay access.
[22:32:25] <alester> But what that relaly mean
[22:32:42] <alester> is that you're not authorized to send mail through that server.
[22:33:46] <echelon> oh, so i have to use AUTH LOGIN/PLAIN?
[22:34:06] <alester> Not necessaryily.
[22:34:12] <alester> Do you own the mail server?
[22:34:16] <alester> what are you trying to send?
[22:34:29] <echelon> just trying to send a test message
[22:35:00] <echelon> my host disabled php mail(), so i'm trying to create a socket connection to it
[22:35:42] <echelon> oh yeah, after the relay access denied i get..
[22:35:48] <echelon> 554 Error: no valid recipients
[22:37:32] <alester> So, you're trying to send mail through a mail server you control.
[22:37:36] <alester> can you send it from the command line?
[22:37:56] <alester> It sounds like you're not accepting relay from the machine.
[22:38:01] <alester> Do you understand why it's "relay"?
[22:38:26] <echelon> sending email to a gmail address
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[22:40:42] <rob0> !relay_denied
[22:40:44] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[22:41:01] <rob0> !basic
[22:41:01] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[22:41:06] <rob0> !mynetworks
[22:41:07] <knoba> rob0: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[22:41:14] <echelon> thanks :)
[22:43:43] <echelon> the connection is being made from localhost though :\
[22:44:00] <alester> but it's still relay
[22:44:07] <alester> because you're asking postfix to pass it on to someone else.
[22:44:25] <alester> If the target of the email is a domain other than one postfix is in charge of, it's a relay.
[22:44:40] <echelon> from what i read, it tries to check if the recepient exists
[22:44:48] <alester> at gmail?
[22:44:50] <alester> it can't.
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[22:44:53] <echelon> yeah
[22:45:01] <alester> Can someone point me to documentation of the logfile?
[22:45:18] <alester> I don't know what these mean:
[22:45:18] <alester> delay=6.6, delays=1.6/0.01/0/4.9, dsn=2.0.0,
[22:45:38] <brd> echelon: why aren't you talking to the company you are paying to host this?
[22:47:40] <mcp> good evening. How do I make this with postfix: every email from @sender.com should be redirected to specific-user at recipient-domain dot com?
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[22:48:21] <alester> That sounds like a FAQ to me.
[22:48:32] <echelon> brd: it's a free host
[22:48:39] <xpoint> mcp, dont make catch all email addresses
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[22:48:55] <brd> echelon: ok, so why aren't you talking to them?
[22:49:04] <echelon> they only have email enabled for paid members
[22:49:09] <brd> echelon: we shouldn't be guessing about their setup and how they want to handle it
[22:49:12] <brd> LOL
[22:49:22] <brd> so you'd like us to help you bypass that restriction?
[22:49:23] <ek> Haha.
[22:49:37] <echelon> well, that would be nice
[22:49:43] <ek> echelon: Why don't you authenticate to an external mail server that you have an account on?
[22:50:04] <echelon> because fsockopen is disabled as well
[22:50:10] <echelon> i'm actually using cURL
[22:50:18] <brd> LOL
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[22:50:53] <echelon> http://opendevnet.org/projects/curl_mail/README.txt
[22:51:12] <mcp> xpoint: well, then from at sender dot com
[22:52:12] <xpoint> mcp, from at sender dot com REDIRECT foo at example dot net
[22:52:30] <echelon> i'm wondering why it would have relay disabled from localhost
[22:52:31] <mcp> xpoint: check_sender_access regexp?
[22:52:39] <xpoint> yes
[22:52:57] <mcp> xpoint: did that. does not work
[22:53:22] <xpoint> first sender check ?
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[22:54:08] <xpoint> remember postfix restrictions is top down ordered
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[22:54:23] <mcp> xpoint: doesn't matter.
[22:54:33] <xpoint> logs matter then
[22:55:03] <mcp> xpoint: even if I put in there: /./ REDIRECT root@localhost I see things like: blabla ... dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via uucp service)
[22:55:32] <mcp> to the original user, not the redirected one
[22:57:12] <xpoint> remove other restrictions then
[22:57:31] <xpoint> first match wins
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[22:59:47] <mcp> xpoint: ok. the only restriction now, still not working
[23:00:05] <xpoint> try header_check then
[23:01:12] <xpoint> still wird to use such forwards, with can create more problems then it solves
[23:02:11] <mcp> args. silly me. too braindead to user proper regex
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[23:05:01] <mcp> works now
[23:05:01] <mcp> ;(
[23:05:01] <mcp> thanks xpoint
[23:05:01] <xpoint> super
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[23:06:58] <mcp> :-)
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[23:20:22] <goldfisc1li> n8
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[23:38:50] <k-man__> what are some tools I can use to prevent spam from being delivered to my mail host?
[23:39:24] <k-man__> i'm using spamassassin but afaict, that marks email as spam after it arrives - i'd like to find a way of limiting spam from even arriving
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