September 4, 2008 
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September 4, 2008 [00:04:42] *** martiancode has joined #postfix [00:06:24] *** martianixor has quit IRC [00:06:37] *** martiancode is now known as martianixor [00:09:30] *** adaptr has quit IRC [00:09:41] *** adaptr has joined #postfix [00:09:58] <cheetahw26> how can i do a catchall in the virtual table ? [00:10:23] *** adaptr has quit IRC [00:11:23] *** ramy has quit IRC [00:11:54] <cheetahw26> i wrote: @domain.com user [00:12:07] <cheetahw26> but it doesnt seem to be working... unless there is some other issue [00:12:43] <cheetahw26> no yeah.. that did work... something else.. [00:13:06] *** cheetahw26 has quit IRC [00:14:41] *** adaptr has joined #postfix [00:15:36] *** adaptr has quit IRC [00:16:43] *** Jax has quit IRC [00:19:00] *** seekwill has quit IRC [00:19:45] *** adaptr has joined #postfix [00:30:15] *** Sparkesinator has joined #postfix [00:32:47] <Sparkesinator> hi, i have a virtual domain setup with a virtual file as show here http://pastebin.com/m2a56422 but everytime a email is sent to xxx at replies dot abc.co.uk it trys to forward it to root at maindomain dot co.uk, and says that root at maindomain dot co.uk doesnt exist [00:32:56] <Sparkesinator> am i missing something obvious? [00:33:54] *** awmcclain has joined #postfix [00:34:36] *** Zblakany has quit IRC [00:36:24] *** cilly has quit IRC [00:37:03] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix [00:38:16] *** martianixor has quit IRC [00:39:14] <Sparkesinator> and relevant part of logs here is it helps [00:39:16] <Sparkesinator> http://pastebin.com/m4fd71824 [00:40:34] <rob0> !unknown_virtual [00:40:35] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .) [00:40:50] <rob0> !mung [00:40:50] <knoba> rob0: "mung" : Mash Until No Good : the art of obfuscating data which ultimately results in unintentional consequences such as making diagnostics impossible. [00:41:37] *** danbeck has quit IRC [00:41:47] *** adaptr has quit IRC [00:41:58] *** adaptr has joined #postfix [00:42:27] *** ^chadmaynard has quit IRC [00:42:40] <Sparkesinator> hmmmm [00:46:19] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix [00:46:23] <awmcclain> If I'm setting up DKIM, do I need a DNS TXT record for each host that I send email from, or just one for the main domain (which lists all the mailing in the SPF)? [00:47:08] *** Sparkesinator has left #postfix [01:00:07] *** war9407 has quit IRC [01:07:59] *** lysander has quit IRC [01:14:08] *** martiancode has joined #postfix [01:14:15] *** martiancode is now known as martianixor [01:17:20] *** lysander has joined #postfix [01:21:10] *** cilly has joined #postfix [01:23:39] *** hparker has quit IRC [01:24:34] *** F6F has quit IRC [01:29:52] *** seekwill has joined #postfix [01:33:08] *** Fallenou has quit IRC [01:36:11] *** shinao1 has quit IRC [01:37:02] *** Harfish has joined #postfix [01:38:49] <Harfish> Hi there, I currently have a postfix server which runs mail thru spamassassin, then forwards it onto the destination mail server. I want to install a commercial antivirus scanner on this server but it requires an MDA. Am I even using an MDA? [01:39:54] *** JC has quit IRC [01:43:59] *** madrescher has quit IRC [01:54:44] *** Klian has quit IRC [01:55:41] *** Tykling has left #postfix [01:57:39] *** Broken|work_ has quit IRC [01:57:41] *** Broken|work__ has joined #postfix [02:12:49] *** pitakill has joined #postfix [02:14:51] <ftp3> i am configuring policyd... anyone have any thoughts on how much legit email someone should send in an hr? 60 would be 1 per minute.. thats quite a workload... [02:19:34] <seekwill> I'd do x per day [02:20:13] <seekwill> That way when they want to forward chain letters, they are able to send to their whole address book [02:20:19] *** Gnuyen has joined #postfix [02:20:22] <seekwill> 60/hour isn't very much [02:20:40] <shasta> one of the absolute truths is: "everything depends" :) [02:20:46] <seekwill> :) [02:23:42] *** spy6 is now known as spion [02:24:31] *** mXr has joined #postfix [02:26:44] *** pirho has quit IRC [02:33:59] *** cilly has quit IRC [02:37:36] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix [02:47:11] *** Gnuyen has quit IRC [02:56:21] *** martianixor has quit IRC [03:09:15] *** ramy has joined #postfix [03:24:49] *** githogori has quit IRC [03:31:01] *** xp_prg3 has joined #postfix [03:37:32] *** xp_prg has quit IRC [03:44:56] *** magyar has joined #postfix [03:55:12] *** mavrick61 has quit IRC [03:56:20] *** mavrick61 has joined #postfix [04:05:47] *** the_5th_wheel has quit IRC [04:09:40] *** nitrus^ has joined #postfix [04:11:08] <nitrus^> how (non-)trivial is it to send out 75,000 emails using postfix as far as performance is concerned. is this a manageable feet with an out of the box install on a P4 with 2 gigs of ram? i have someone who wants to send out mails for a mailing list to 75,000 people and i was wondering if a single instance of postfix could handle that [04:15:47] *** tshine has left #postfix [04:16:56] <seekwill> nitrus^: Yes [04:17:23] <seekwill> Should take less than an hour, depending on how good your IP address is (reputation wise) [04:17:44] <seekwill> And bandwidth [04:20:31] <nitrus^> ok cool [04:20:40] <nitrus^> it's a pain in the arse to try and test to figure out [04:21:00] <seekwill> Well, you generally don't want to "test" on live email addresses. [04:21:05] <seekwill> Your largest bottleneck will be IO [04:23:56] *** xp_prg3 has quit IRC [04:27:17] *** xp_prg has joined #postfix [04:39:52] <Harfish> Hi there, I currently have a postfix server which runs mail thru spamassassin, then forwards it onto the destination mail server. I want to install a commercial antivirus scanner on this server but it requires an MDA. Am I even using an MDA? [04:40:51] *** Juspion has joined #postfix [04:40:53] <lunaphyte> not if final delivery isn't being done on that computer. [04:41:56] <Harfish> does postfix have some sort of mda wrapper that the antivirus could use? [04:43:47] <lunaphyte> you don't want to share the name of the actual software you want help with? [04:47:20] <Harfish> sure, it's eset's antivirus gateway [04:48:47] <ftp3> is anyone in here using policyd v2 for throttling only? [04:48:48] <Harfish> http://www.antivirusworks.com/ESET-NOD32-MailServers.asp#Mail_Security_ [04:49:13] <ftp3> there are no docs for policyd.. which makes it hard to setup [04:49:51] *** hwdyki has joined #postfix [04:50:13] <hwdyki> is berkeley db required to build postfix? [04:51:21] <lunaphyte> Harfish: it seems to indicate it works in conjunction with smtp and doesn't necessarily require an mda. i'm not sure what exactly they're getting at with this distinction between "incoming" and "outgoing" mail. all mail is incoming, and all mail is outgoing. [04:52:26] <lunaphyte> hwdyki: no [04:54:21] <Harfish> right, thanks for that [04:55:01] <seekwill> lunaphyte: hehe :) incoming/outgoing :) [05:00:50] *** tombar has joined #postfix [05:05:08] <hwdyki> lunaphyte: i get <db.h> not found when running make. [05:10:47] *** Stealthys has joined #postfix [05:11:07] <Stealthys> hey can anyone in here help me with a policyd v2 problem ? [05:11:22] <Stealthys> pretty sure its postfix related [05:21:29] *** Gnuyen has joined #postfix [05:21:42] *** ramy has quit IRC [05:22:33] *** goldfischli has joined #postfix [05:30:39] *** spion has quit IRC [05:30:42] *** spion has joined #postfix [05:30:51] *** spion has quit IRC [05:32:45] *** goldfisc1li has quit IRC [05:35:43] *** spy6 has joined #postfix [05:40:43] *** danbeck has joined #postfix [05:42:26] *** Fudge has joined #postfix [05:43:24] <Fudge> hi using spamassassin do i put the spamass-milter hook setting into the /etc/mail hostname .mc file still? [05:47:01] *** Juspion has quit IRC [05:52:20] *** seekwill has quit IRC [05:52:33] *** danbeck has quit IRC [05:52:49] *** hwdyki has quit IRC [05:56:28] <Fudge> Im on freebsd, does postfix still place files in /etc/mail like I have freebsd.mc, is that the correct file to add the hooks to? [05:57:50] *** Harfish has left #postfix [06:08:28] *** majikman has quit IRC [06:21:25] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [06:22:34] *** githogori has joined #postfix [06:37:28] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [06:37:47] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [06:40:29] *** tshine has joined #postfix [06:46:02] *** sep has quit IRC [06:50:40] *** Broken|work__ has quit IRC [06:50:52] *** Fudge has left #postfix [06:56:41] *** sep has joined #postfix [06:58:38] *** n3kl has joined #postfix [07:10:07] *** ksool has joined #postfix [07:12:32] <ksool> When using shared domains (many domains, all users have system accounts), is it possible to include a wildcard expression in the mydestination field? [07:15:37] <ksool> Or for that matter, is it possible to use wildcard subdomains in mdestination in general? [07:21:03] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix [07:30:19] *** pitakill has quit IRC [07:36:39] *** sega01 has quit IRC [07:38:15] *** lumpek has joined #postfix [07:40:45] *** DarklyCute has joined #postfix [07:41:16] *** bio___ has quit IRC [07:41:22] *** bio___ has joined #postfix [07:44:37] *** spreeuw has quit IRC [07:44:40] *** spreeuw has joined #postfix [07:50:58] *** hwdyki has joined #postfix [07:51:23] <hwdyki> is it necessary to use numeric ids in a uid/gid map? can i use account names? [08:00:58] *** optraz has joined #postfix [08:01:45] <optraz> hi, in /var/log/mail.log, i got this entry, status=bounced (unknown user: "oem") , how do i determine which app or person that send this message? [08:03:09] *** phnord has joined #postfix [08:04:16] <f3ew> hwdyki you can [08:04:37] <f3ew> optraz, look at the queueid, grep for the queueid in the logs [08:05:45] *** loompek has quit IRC [08:05:56] *** tombar_ has joined #postfix [08:08:34] <optraz> f3ew: no queueid in mail.* log [08:10:52] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC [08:11:50] <f3ew> optraz, show the full log line [08:12:59] <optraz> sure [08:13:04] <optraz> Sep 1 08:17:01 <hostname> postfix/local[2967]: 4E0EC564032: to=<oem at <hostname> dot <domainname>>, orig_to=<root>, relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "oem") [08:14:30] <f3ew> grep for 4E0EC564032 [08:19:35] <optraz> grep 4E0EC564032 at where? [08:22:30] *** tombar has quit IRC [08:23:04] <f3ew> in the logs [08:23:11] <f3ew> 4E0EC564032 is the queue id [08:24:49] <optraz> f3ew, okay, but which app actually send that? [08:26:51] <optraz> ok,i think i know, the queueid tied to postfix/qmgr[8288]: D91F8564051: removed [08:27:00] <optraz> so qmgr is the one that send the email to oem [08:27:13] <f3ew> qmgr is part of Postfix [08:27:55] <optraz> ok, but why does it keep on sending email to user oem ? [08:28:04] <optraz> i get that repeatative in my log. [08:28:22] <DarklyCute> check your aliases file [08:29:01] <optraz> mmmm, k [08:29:04] <optraz> strnage, the root map to oem [08:29:34] <sysmonk> another distro bytes the dust? [08:30:07] <f3ew> probably [08:30:12] <f3ew> optraz see alias_maps [08:31:02] <optraz> mmmm not so good [08:31:04] <optraz> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases [08:31:14] <optraz> strange, the nis entry is there [08:31:52] <sysmonk> optraz: what distro is it? just curious [08:32:31] <optraz> xubuntu [08:32:40] <optraz> what does nis:mail.aliases ? [08:32:44] <optraz> means [08:33:05] <sysmonk> nis [08:33:06] <f3ew> Are you using NIS? [08:33:30] *** sophokles1 has joined #postfix [08:33:36] *** awmcclain has quit IRC [08:34:03] <optraz> NIS = Network Information System ? [08:34:09] <f3ew> yes [08:34:46] <optraz> ok, maybe that is causing the trouble [08:34:55] <optraz> i think i just do the mapping to only alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases [08:35:49] <optraz> which app in linux implement nis [08:36:02] <optraz> cause i would like to know how does it get into that spot alias_maps [08:36:26] <f3ew> Edit main.cf [08:36:35] <f3ew> Also, edit /etc/aliases to fix the root alias [08:38:41] *** nitrus^ has left #postfix [08:39:22] <optraz> which app in linux implement nis ? i would like to know how does it get into that spot alias_maps [08:41:35] *** lumpek has quit IRC [08:41:47] *** loompek has joined #postfix [08:42:14] *** deface has quit IRC [08:43:36] *** Knoedel2 has joined #postfix [08:47:58] *** denis has joined #postfix [08:54:50] *** denis has quit IRC [08:55:10] *** denis_ has joined #postfix [08:56:02] *** sbathe_ has joined #postfix [08:56:40] <dragonheart> optraz: distro dependent http://www.linux-nis.org/ - nis-utils of some form i;d guess [08:58:40] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC [09:00:41] *** pitakill has joined #postfix [09:05:00] <optraz> k thanks dragonheart [09:06:35] *** gypsymauro has joined #postfix [09:06:37] <gypsymauro> hi [09:07:32] <gypsymauro> I've a lot o fdeferred mails, if I run postqueue -p I c that all get this error (temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Unable to create a dot-lock.) [09:08:08] <gypsymauro> but maildrop seems to be runned rightly as user and user has the right permissions on the ~/Maildir folder [09:09:22] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [09:09:46] <gypsymauro> any hint? [09:14:11] *** sbathe_ has quit IRC [09:14:22] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [09:16:25] *** _Driver_ has joined #postfix [09:19:59] <milligan_> If the directory does not exist, or if maildrop doesn't have permission to create files in the directory, you will see the Unable to create a dot-lock error message. [09:20:38] <milligan_> Find out for what user it's complaining .. and make sure the directory exists, and that it's writable by the user that maildrop runs as. [09:21:12] <gypsymauro> yes it is [09:21:51] <gypsymauro> for example now I run a ps and I found this userfoo 12681 0.0 0.1 2840 1276 ? Ds 09:19 0:00 /usr/bin/maildrop [09:22:13] <gypsymauro> so maildrop is running by userfoo [09:22:30] <gypsymauro> then I look in passwd [09:23:20] <gypsymauro> userfoo:x:1024:1024:,,,:/home/userfoo:/bin/true [09:23:31] <gypsymauro> then I go on his home [09:24:12] <gypsymauro> drwx------ 10 userfoo userfoo 4096 2006-08-02 09:02 Maildir [09:24:40] <gypsymauro> and in maildroprc I've [09:24:41] <gypsymauro> DEFAULT = "$HOME/Maildir" [09:26:41] <gypsymauro> I dunno where to look.. [09:28:57] *** spy6 is now known as spion [09:31:27] <Knoedel2> !anvil_rate_time_unit [09:31:28] <knoba> Knoedel2: Error: "anvil_rate_time_unit" is not a valid command. [09:31:37] *** sepski has joined #postfix [09:33:23] <Knoedel2> !smtpd_client_message_rate_limit [09:33:24] <knoba> Knoedel2: Error: "smtpd_client_message_rate_limit" is not a valid command. [09:33:25] <milligan_> gypsymauro, and you are 100% sure that that is the actual folder it's checking ? [09:34:02] <gypsymauro> milligan_: I'm not sure at 100% but maildrop doesn't tell me the exact path .. [09:34:39] <gypsymauro> and I dunno how to make him be more precise I set higher verbose mode [09:34:49] <gypsymauro> but in delivery mode it doesn't works [09:35:19] <milligan_> That's the problem with maildrop.. it's logging is quite hopeless. What does $HOME point to? Are you sure that that setting is correct? [09:35:37] <milligan_> I haven't used maildrop myself .. but can you make it execute some sort of script upon execution, so you could write your own logging ? [09:37:03] <gypsymauro> maybe I can call maildrop with some params to tell the right home? [09:37:29] <gypsymauro> I'm using mailbox_command = /usr/bin/maildrop [09:37:51] *** Klian has joined #postfix [09:44:27] *** ftp3 has left #postfix [09:46:12] *** madrescher has joined #postfix [09:46:48] *** pitakill has quit IRC [09:46:49] <milligan_> I'm not sure mate. I haven't used maildrop before. Sorry. [09:47:17] *** [newbie] has joined #postfix [09:47:46] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC [09:50:21] *** Tex-Twil has joined #postfix [09:50:37] *** Tex-Twil has left #postfix [09:51:41] *** spion has left #postfix [09:55:24] <sepski> when i disable content_filter i experience that virtual aliases cease to work postfix+mysql [09:56:42] <sepski> they bounce with unknown user [09:58:27] <sysmonk> !receive_override_options [09:58:28] <knoba> sysmonk: "receive_override_options" : (default: empty) - Enable or disable recipient validation, built-in content filtering, or address mapping. Typically, these are specified in master.cf as arguments for the smtpd(8), qmqpd(8) or pickup(8) daemons. See: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#receive_override_options [09:58:29] <sysmonk> sepski: ^^ [09:58:34] *** war9407 has joined #postfix [09:59:05] *** dragonheart has quit IRC [10:03:41] *** JC has joined #postfix [10:03:44] <sepski> so remove no_address_mappings when disabeling content_filter ? [10:04:47] <sepski> have a unforseen sudden growth in users and struggle to handle the load [10:05:45] <razym> hello, postfix [10:05:52] <razym> is there a way to force emails to come from a specific prefix? [10:07:03] <sepski> sysmonk, do i need to do anything about cleanup_service_name= aswell ? [10:08:08] *** dzosh has left #postfix [10:12:05] *** tombar_ has quit IRC [10:13:24] *** F6F has joined #postfix [10:14:56] <sepski> i removed "receive_override_options" but it seem to still not do virtual aliases [10:19:02] <razym> anyone? [10:23:51] *** mark-use has joined #postfix [10:37:39] *** DarklyCute has quit IRC [10:49:58] *** skor has quit IRC [10:55:11] *** madrescher has quit IRC [10:56:41] *** martiancode has joined #postfix [10:57:38] *** porpoti has joined #postfix [10:58:06] <porpoti> !rules [10:58:06] <knoba> porpoti: Error: "rules" is not a valid command. [11:01:51] *** lumpek has joined #postfix [11:03:22] *** lumpek has quit IRC [11:03:33] *** lumpek has joined #postfix [11:10:55] <JC> vice-versa u there? [11:15:24] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix [11:19:49] *** loompek has quit IRC [11:25:11] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix [11:26:09] *** drindt has joined #postfix [11:41:26] *** [newbie] has quit IRC [11:45:30] <hwdyki> how can i build postfix w/o berkeley db? [11:45:48] *** pirho has joined #postfix [11:50:13] <gypsymauro> no more php4 in lenny? [11:54:11] *** pie` has joined #postfix [11:55:03] *** proppen has joined #postfix [11:58:53] *** cpm has joined #postfix [12:00:28] *** pie` is now known as razym` [12:01:03] *** razym has quit IRC [12:01:03] *** razym` is now known as razym [12:03:38] *** martianc1de has joined #postfix [12:03:41] *** martianc1de is now known as martianixor [12:05:22] *** martianixor has quit IRC [12:10:55] *** madrescher has joined #postfix [12:11:27] *** randra has joined #postfix [12:12:18] <gypsymauro> why I can't find php4 on lenny? [12:14:00] <sysmonk> because you're on #postfix [12:14:09] <sysmonk> go find a real os [12:14:15] * cpm looks for php4 on sysmonk [12:16:30] *** martiancode has quit IRC [12:18:29] <gypsymauro> damn [12:18:34] <gypsymauro> sorry wrong channel:) [12:18:43] <proppen> I'm trying to catch all emails sent to my postfix smtp server to one single user for a staging environment. Anyone know where I should start looking? (tried to google it already) [12:18:44] *** gypsymauro has left #postfix [12:20:53] <f3ew> !catchall [12:20:54] <knoba> f3ew: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them. [12:21:50] <proppen> the server is in a firewalled staging environment, so spammers shouldn't be able to abuse it :) [12:22:16] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix [12:31:37] <proppen> knoba: so do I add "virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual" to main.cf and "@domain :mailuser" to /etc/postfix/virtual and it should work? There seem to be something I'm doing wrong in that case :S [12:35:49] *** imgrey has joined #postfix [12:35:52] <imgrey> hi #postfix [12:36:37] <imgrey> could someone remind me how to make postfix to send all incoming emails to certaing user ? [12:37:50] <f3ew> !catchall [12:37:51] <knoba> f3ew: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them. [12:38:04] <f3ew> proppen s/:// [12:38:24] <f3ew> @example.com luser@domain [12:38:35] <imgrey> nevermind [12:38:38] <imgrey> and thanks [12:39:32] <proppen> thanx [12:40:04] *** mosez has quit IRC [12:40:49] *** mosez has joined #postfix [12:41:28] *** rootsvr has quit IRC [12:49:25] *** dusty_ is now known as reginoldrr [12:50:02] *** reginoldrr has quit IRC [12:54:51] *** cilly has joined #postfix [13:00:41] *** wolram has joined #postfix [13:03:26] *** sepski has quit IRC [13:04:42] <wolram> hello, i'm using postfix virtual mailbox maps and alias maps, I try to have a mailbox with two copy recipients, so i have one entry in the mailbox map and one in the alias map. when sending a message the mailbox receives one but the two aliases receives duplicate emails [13:06:04] <wolram> i have all three email addresses as destination in the virtual map, when removing the email address of the mailbox from destination i dont get duplicates but i want a copy in the mailbox [13:07:54] *** jstrom has quit IRC [13:16:27] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix [13:19:55] *** js_ has quit IRC [13:22:49] *** cilly has quit IRC [13:25:35] *** ming_zym has quit IRC [13:25:39] *** porpoti has left #postfix [13:30:35] *** kjs has joined #postfix [13:31:25] <kjs> What do I need to look up in the docs, if I want to set my postfix server to forward all mail @blah.com to redirect to another server (a MS Exchange server). [13:31:43] <shasta> first, it shouldn't [13:31:51] <sysmonk> hah :) [13:31:59] <cpm> shasta, note, this guy comes here and asks this about every day. [13:32:15] <shasta> it should forward only those address at blah dot com, which the exchange WILL handle [13:32:24] <shasta> otherwise you end up as a backscatter source [13:32:27] <shasta> (BAD!) [13:32:54] <kjs> cpm ? [13:33:22] <shasta> once you know that, you go to postfix.org, click on Documentation, click on Standard configuration examples, and read. 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[14:22:39] <sysmonk> rdns is preferred [14:23:03] <sysmonk> some ( or most?) servers kick your ass if you don't have rdns (or matching one) [14:23:32] <mosez> so i have to set a seperate ip for the mailserver and add an rdns entry for this domain [14:24:45] <hwdyki> which header do they use to match the rdns name against? [14:26:36] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix [14:29:02] *** madrescher has quit IRC [14:30:14] *** madrescher has joined #postfix [14:30:57] *** EasilyOdd has joined #postfix [14:32:42] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC [14:43:52] *** EasilyOdd has quit IRC [14:43:54] <lunaphyte_> hwdyki: whatever value you use as your helo should be the value that is returned for that ip's ptr record. [14:44:19] *** EasilyOdd has joined #postfix [14:46:27] *** sysmonk has quit IRC [14:48:10] *** EasilyOdd has quit IRC [14:48:37] *** Pazzo has joined #postfix [14:51:55] *** sysmonk has joined #postfix [15:00:12] *** denis_ has quit IRC [15:03:06] *** UC has joined #postfix [15:07:24] <UC> Hi! Question: I've just installed postfix on my Fedora 9 server. On the server i got the monitoring software Nagios running. Nagios sends out email notifications in case of an error. This server is in a secured network and must use a mailrelay server to send it;s mail. Here's the thing. How do i set this up in postfix? [15:07:40] <sysmonk> !relayhost [15:07:41] <knoba> sysmonk: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid. [15:07:47] <sysmonk> UC: ^^ [15:08:24] <UC> sysmonk, thnx <3 [15:08:47] <sysmonk> 99.99$ [15:08:51] <UC> hehe [15:09:49] <shasta> i'll offer you the same factoid for $49.99! [15:09:51] <sysmonk> heeeey, what's so funny about that!? [15:09:57] <sysmonk> shasta: don't be a sucker [15:10:47] <thumbs> I'll do it for 3$ [15:10:55] * sysmonk kick thumbs in the ass [15:11:05] <_ruben> that sounds nasty [15:11:13] * shasta puts thumbs up some ass [15:11:16] <shasta> ;) [15:11:25] * sysmonk installs qmail on thumbs servers [15:11:30] <sysmonk> beat that! [15:11:31] <sysmonk> ;) [15:11:34] <shasta> oh [15:11:38] <thumbs> :( [15:11:41] * f3ew sighs, takes all of UCs money and walks off [15:11:44] * shasta reinstalls that to a fully-loaded exchange server [15:12:28] <UC> rofl [15:13:02] <lunaphyte_> if the point of that computer is to run nagios, not be a mailserver, then dpn [15:13:05] <lunaphyte_> bah [15:13:16] <lunaphyte_> don't install mailserver software on it. [15:13:22] <f3ew> heh [15:13:45] <shasta> yeah, ' shouldn't be that close to the enter key [15:14:10] <UC> lunaphyte, why's that? Nagios needs something like sendmail/postfix to send it's mail right? [15:14:18] <f3ew> Or ssmtp [15:14:27] <lunaphyte_> UC: of course not. [15:14:47] *** mirrorcolor has joined #postfix [15:14:53] <lunaphyte_> all nagios needs to do is submit messages to an mta for delivery. [15:15:05] <UC> lunaphyte, how come? i've followed the instructions according to the usermanual from nagios and it's not sending any mail :( [15:15:11] <lunaphyte_> postfix or sendmail can fill that role, sure, but both are way overkill. [15:15:15] *** Bagualas has joined #postfix [15:15:20] <UC> hmm ok [15:15:32] <f3ew> UC logs? [15:15:34] <f3ew> !debug [15:15:35] <knoba> f3ew: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ . [15:16:07] <UC> f3ew, hmm i guess i'll have to look into those yes [15:16:09] <lunaphyte_> like f3ew said, use ssmtp, or any of the other handful of equivalents. depending on how nagios works, you might not even need sendmail binary compatibility. [15:17:02] <UC> okay, good to know. I am a bit new to all this so that's why i might ask the silly questions, but it's more clear to me now. (just started using fedora, nagios etc 3-4weeks ago) [15:17:12] <UC> thank you [15:17:16] <lunaphyte_> good luck with nagios. :) [15:17:39] <UC> well nagios is running great :D got lots of services running already only thing missing is the notification email :) [15:18:11] <lunaphyte_> my nagios is the users of the system :p [15:18:50] <UC> your nagios is the users of the system? :x didnt quite get that oe [15:18:52] <UC> *one [15:19:48] <milligan_> His users whine when the system crashes [15:19:56] <lunaphyte_> bingo. [15:20:20] <milligan_> Maybe I should set up a public nagios, and let people register their services for monitoring. [15:21:19] <UC> lol okay now i get it :D [15:22:13] <UC> milligan_, that's gonna be very complicated since everyone has a different situation, good luck with that one :) [15:22:34] <UC> you could set it up as a ASP (Application Service Provider) tho :) might be some real money in it [15:23:33] <milligan_> Shouldn't be too hard. Might be a bit difficult to set it up automatically .. but letting users send me an email with their ip and what they want monitored.. should be fairly easy to create. [15:25:46] *** proppen has quit IRC [15:27:14] *** imgrey has quit IRC [15:30:39] <Bagualas> i'm using gld for greylist... when the message comes from gmail for example it come from differents servers, is there anything I can do to greylist all servers, or take less time to the message enter? [15:31:31] <lunaphyte_> exclude google's servers from greylisting. [15:32:31] <Bagualas> lunaphyte, but should I list all servers? [15:32:38] <lunaphyte_> gld's documentation covers doing this. [15:32:43] <sep> say you have a shared maildir storage.. will it be a problem if for a significant periode of time one machine uses postfix/virtual to deliver and other machine uses dovecot-lda ? [15:32:58] <lunaphyte_> Bagualas: you should list whichever servers you'd like to be excluded from greylisting. [15:33:25] <Bagualas> Lukemob, since I dont know all servers, no way? [15:33:56] <Bagualas> lunaphyte, [15:34:02] <lunaphyte_> Bagualas: yes, it's tough. [15:34:26] <Bagualas> where do I put the servers? [15:35:01] <Bagualas> lunaphyte, [15:35:07] <lunaphyte_> Bagualas: have you even read the documentation the author of gld provides? [15:35:32] <Bagualas> lunaphyte, no yet hehehehe [15:35:39] <Bagualas> i saw some whitelist, but it bug my greylist [15:35:49] *** martiancode has joined #postfix [15:35:50] <lunaphyte_> it bug? [15:36:38] <Bagualas> yeah, refused all e-mails [15:37:56] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [15:41:19] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [15:42:00] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [15:42:29] <shasta> so you come here asking for help BEFORE reading the documentation? [15:43:13] <Bagualas> shasta, yeah yeah [15:43:30] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [15:43:57] <MaD^MaRe`> hi, this is a spamassassin question, but can i add some user prefs to SQL from the spamassassin command line? [15:44:15] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [15:44:34] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix [15:44:48] <MaD^MaRe`> and if yes, where's the doc for that? [15:45:20] <f3ew> #spamassassin [15:45:27] *** saurabhb has quit IRC [15:47:11] <e_> !ldap [15:47:12] <knoba> e_: "ldap" : a lookup method that can be used by Postfix. An introduction can be found in the LDAP_README also found at http://www.postfix.org/LDAP_README.html. A worthy project dealing with LDAP and Postfix can be found at: http://jamm.sourceforge.net/howto/html/ [15:47:22] <e_> hehe.. faster than a google search [15:49:01] <MaD^MaRe`> f3ew oh yea, thanks:) my bad. cuz i tried to join #spamassasin (one s) [15:51:10] <e_> heh.. [15:51:23] <e_> that typo is easy to prohibit, just think of "ass ass" [15:53:04] <MaD^MaRe`> e_ haha i'll keep that in mind;) [15:53:39] <e_> not hard to ;) [15:58:14] *** keffff has quit IRC [15:58:22] *** growltiger has joined #postfix [15:58:23] *** keffer has joined #postfix [16:00:35] *** madrescher has quit IRC [16:05:26] *** rootsvr has quit IRC [16:18:11] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix [16:26:00] *** kreg_work has quit IRC [16:26:20] *** madrescher has joined #postfix [16:33:23] *** hwdyki has left #postfix [16:33:32] *** dead has joined #postfix [16:33:48] <dead> hello.....is there something special I need to do to redirect the output from the postsuper command? [16:34:06] <dead> postsuper -d ID > /dev/null 2>&1 is not working [16:34:14] <dead> nor postsuper -d ID &> /dev/null [16:34:43] <Dominian> eh [16:34:45] <Dominian> why would you do that? [16:36:12] <dead> cause its being used within a script [16:38:32] <Dominian> eh [16:38:36] <Dominian> I still ask.. 'why' [16:40:08] <dead> thats nice, can you tell me how to do it or not? [16:40:38] <Dominian> What you were doing should work if it allows you to do std output redirection [16:40:40] <dead> is there some other way I should be doing it, if using it within a script? [16:40:47] <dead> yeah..hmm [16:40:53] <Dominian> Well first we need to know what it is you're trying to do with the script.. [16:41:02] <Dominian> I mean it doesn't make sense to run postsuper inside a script for any reason... [16:41:12] *** skyegg has joined #postfix [16:41:16] <Dominian> its meant to be a command line tool for administration.. not scripting use afaik [16:41:45] <dead> i see [16:41:58] <dead> well is it ok to simply remove the files? [16:42:14] <dead> or will postfix get jumpy if i do that? [16:42:37] <Dominian> if they are queue files.. you can still run postsuper -d ALL or what not on your own.. it won't hurt postfix's feelings [16:42:58] *** farspace has quit IRC [16:44:50] *** Swat2 has joined #postfix [16:44:54] <Swat2> can anyone tell me how i can integrate spamassassin w/ postfix with Exchange 2003? [16:46:49] <shasta> http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html [16:54:37] *** coxande has joined #postfix [16:57:53] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC [17:02:53] *** UC has quit IRC [17:04:39] *** Fallenou has quit IRC [17:10:44] *** martianc1de has joined #postfix [17:12:07] *** martianc1de is now known as martianixor [17:14:20] *** jshanks has joined #postfix [17:20:42] *** cilly has quit IRC [17:23:47] <Swat2> how do i make Postfix+Spamassassin+clamav forward its emails to my excahnge server after its filtered them [17:24:38] <lunaphyte_> !examples [17:24:39] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "examples" : http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html [17:24:50] <lunaphyte_> Swat2: have you read this document? 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[18:11:05] <f3ew> don't do anything [18:11:21] <gypsymauro> it will adjust automatically? [18:11:29] <f3ew> ye [18:11:30] <f3ew> s [18:11:54] * cpm hasn't touched postqueue in a very long time, and rarely does so at all. [18:12:11] *** JC has quit IRC [18:12:28] *** UC has quit IRC [18:12:56] <gypsymauro> tan [18:12:57] <gypsymauro> tanx [18:18:02] *** j_s has joined #postfix [18:19:41] *** seekwill has joined #postfix [18:21:01] <gypsymauro> it's normal to have a postqueue with 1569 requests? I've at least 150 users [18:21:49] <f3ew> where are they going to? [18:21:52] <f3ew> and are they bounceS? [18:29:22] *** cilly has joined #postfix [18:29:36] <gypsymauro> to my users [18:29:56] <gypsymauro> maybe spamassassin clamav pyzor and so on takes too much to deliver? [18:34:27] *** diegows has joined #postfix [18:35:07] <diegows> is there an easy way to pass message From: header to a commend executed by pipe? [18:37:42] *** VaNNi has quit IRC [18:40:52] *** xp_prg has joined #postfix [18:43:13] *** VietWOW has joined #postfix [18:46:52] *** VaNNi has joined #postfix [18:47:06] *** netcrash has quit IRC [18:56:12] *** phnord has quit IRC [18:58:33] *** carl- has joined #postfix [19:00:49] <randra> anyone here use postfixadmin? [19:01:04] <Dominian> yep [19:01:33] <randra> Dominian, i looking to use but my mysql conf it`s wrong, i can`t use postfix admin with default conf [19:01:34] <spreeuw> randra: the frontend for endusers? [19:01:44] <spreeuw> Isaw it with a client of ours [19:01:47] <spreeuw> works very nice [19:01:59] <spreeuw> there only one unintuitive thing in it [19:01:59] <randra> spreeuw yes, frontend for endusers [19:02:06] <spreeuw> it has results on multiple pages [19:02:18] <Dominian> nothing wrong with that [19:02:21] <Dominian> it uses pagination [19:02:25] <spreeuw> not if you know no ;p [19:02:33] * Dominian shrugs [19:02:36] <Dominian> then pay more attention? [19:02:51] <spreeuw> no the gui is broken if it's not obvious [19:02:54] <randra> where i can find a mysql structure to use postfixadmin with default configs? [19:02:58] <spreeuw> but maybe it was just a bad theme [19:03:02] <Dominian> randra: If you want to do virtual users inside mysql.. you'll need to read up on how to do that first.. get it working.. then work on getting postfixadmin [19:03:46] <spreeuw> but thats the only criticism , just reporting back experience ;p [19:03:51] <randra> yes, i have a mx with postfix running [19:04:04] <spreeuw> it works great and it's better than the custom hack frontend we use with our company [19:04:06] <randra> but i want use postfixadmin to control that [19:06:38] <randra> any can help, with postfixadmin ? [19:10:13] *** brancaleone has quit IRC [19:11:15] *** Fallenou has quit IRC [19:11:56] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix [19:18:22] *** Gnuyen has quit IRC [19:20:26] *** Gnuyen has joined #postfix [19:23:17] *** gypsymauro has quit IRC [19:25:36] *** sophokles1 has quit IRC [19:34:55] * cpm recommends the postfixadmin forums [19:36:05] <Dominian> cpm: those exist? [19:36:17] * pickcoder uses vim [19:36:28] <cpm> Dominian, yup. [19:36:38] <Dominian> heh [19:36:51] <spreeuw> pickcoder: tell your customers to use vim in your system files [19:37:04] <spreeuw> I'm sure they will be understanding [19:37:04] <cpm> http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=676076 [19:37:46] <pickcoder> spreeuw: or they can e-mail support and request changes [19:38:26] <spreeuw> pickcoder: what could you have done in the meantime? [19:38:35] <spreeuw> do you admin any mailservers? [19:38:44] <pickcoder> nope.. I just hang out here for no reason [19:38:46] <spreeuw> if you did you wouldnt talk like that [19:38:55] <spreeuw> you know how endusers are [19:39:05] <pickcoder> yup.. and that's why I control the servers [19:39:10] <pickcoder> I don't run an ISP [19:41:11] <seekwill> :) [19:41:31] <pickcoder> seekwill on the other hand... shouldn't be left alone with postfix [19:41:34] <pickcoder> heh [19:42:11] <pickcoder> btw, did you manage to mangle that mail2file script into something useful? [19:42:47] *** tombar has joined #postfix [20:01:22] *** manlymatt83 has quit IRC [20:01:57] *** manlymatt83 has joined #postfix [20:05:26] *** tombar has quit IRC [20:06:17] *** tombar has joined #postfix [20:10:54] *** devdas has joined #postfix [20:12:51] *** Daemoen has joined #postfix [20:13:12] <Daemoen> hey guys, whats the parameter to tell postfix to use the localhost smtp server to send outgoing mail through? [20:13:21] <Daemoen> i thought it was smtp unde rthe master.cf list [20:14:15] <pickcoder> Daemoen: huh? [20:14:18] <devdas> !relayhost [20:14:19] <knoba> devdas: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid. [20:18:39] <seekwill> pickcoder: lol! :P [20:19:01] <seekwill> pickcoder: Nope, not yet. Haven't had a chance to work on that project. Everything keeps getting prioritized :( [20:19:28] <sysmonk> seekwill: woot project? [20:19:35] <sysmonk> KickBanChadmayard? [20:19:39] <seekwill> hah [20:19:59] <Daemoen> knoba: i mean... [20:20:18] <Daemoen> if im sending mail.... it should utilize postfix to send out, not an external smtp provider [20:20:33] <seekwill> Why do you think it doesn't? [20:25:44] <Daemoen> http://fpaste.org/paste/5726 [20:25:52] <Daemoen> it does the same exact thing no matter who the recipient is [20:27:04] *** Internat has joined #postfix [20:27:08] *** internat1 has quit IRC [20:32:02] <Daemoen> we need to be sending *every* email through our internal smtp server after all i guess [20:32:03] <Daemoen> :-D [20:32:20] <Daemoen> so how do i tell postfix i want to route through an external smtp server instead of using postfix... [20:32:29] <Daemoen> that would be using relayhost, right? [20:32:35] <seekwill> yes [20:33:16] <Daemoen> nods [20:33:50] <Daemoen> can you specify more than one? 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[21:27:22] <sysmonk> it says devdasert() [21:27:44] * sysmonk runs far far away [21:27:45] <sysmonk> ;)) [21:30:37] *** radius has joined #postfix [21:31:07] *** radius is now known as Guest63384 [21:41:39] *** dragonbyte has joined #postfix [21:41:58] <dragonbyte> is there a way to stop my mailserver from being used to send backscatter? [21:42:04] <dragonbyte> or to test if it is able to be used for that? [21:42:42] *** cpm has quit IRC [21:44:27] *** Daemoen has quit IRC [21:46:14] <spreeuw> dragonbyte: what does it mean? [21:46:16] <higuita> dragonbyte: reject in the smtp connection instead of rejecting after queueing the email [21:46:40] <spreeuw> ah like reflecting [21:46:46] <spreeuw> I noticed spams like that [21:46:56] *** Guest63384 has quit IRC [21:47:17] <dragonbyte> actually I'm a bit confused now [21:47:28] <dragonbyte> apparently my ip wound up on one of att's block lists [21:47:38] <dragonbyte> i have done the relay testing at abuse.net and nothing is getting relayed [21:47:51] <dragonbyte> so I'm trying to figure out what I may have missed to earn that blacklisting [21:48:06] <higuita> example: instead of accepting all email and then check if there is a valid mailbox, generate a valid mailbox list and use the check_recipient_access to reject the invalid ones [21:48:08] <devdas> ask ATT [21:49:09] *** jonez has quit IRC [21:49:11] <higuita> http://openrbl.org/ [21:49:23] <higuita> use it to test your IP AND domain [21:50:56] <dragonbyte> higuita: is it a problem that my ip and domain don't match? [21:51:04] <higuita> yes [21:51:22] <dragonbyte> higuita: so because the ISP doesn't let me reverse my IP they have me by the balls? [21:51:45] <higuita> the rDNS for your IP should resolve to the DNS you use, and that DNS should point to that same IP [21:52:26] <higuita> many ISP check the DNS/rdns pair, as home computers dont have matching pairs, but valid mail servers do [21:52:48] *** cilly has joined #postfix [21:52:50] <dragonbyte> my mailserver doesn't because I can't configure the rDNS for my IP since it belongs to the ISP [21:53:09] *** Klian has quit IRC [21:53:15] <higuita> you can try to relay emails to your ISP, for those domains that block you because of this DNS problem [21:53:25] *** Klian has joined #postfix [21:54:24] <higuita> rDNS always belong to the ISP, at best, they redirect to your dns server, but most will change when a client send a email to update their static IPs rdns [21:54:41] <higuita> of course, dynamic ip cant ask for rdns ;) [21:54:42] <dragonbyte> ARG [21:54:55] <dragonbyte> well I pay for a static [21:55:02] <dragonbyte> maybe I can ask them to just point the reverse at me [21:55:42] <Dominian> dragonbyte: who's the ISP/ [21:55:48] <dragonbyte> terraworld [21:55:54] <Dominian> who the fsck is that [21:55:54] <Dominian> lol [21:55:55] <higuita> some point to your dns, most are keep on the ISP level and they change it for you [21:55:55] <dragonbyte> little place that offers cheap static ip dns :) [21:56:04] <Dominian> heh [21:56:07] <dragonbyte> i don't generally use major ISPs becaues they dick you around so much [21:56:13] <Dominian> well whoever owns the IP block is who will control the rDNS for it [21:56:26] <Dominian> or they can even delegate the rDNS to you [21:56:27] * Dominian shrugs [21:57:52] <dragonbyte> i generally don't bother asking the question since it is usually a default no [21:57:57] <dragonbyte> might have some luck with these guys [21:58:21] <dragonbyte> last time I called tech support (over a year ago) I got into an idle discussion of linux distro choices while we waited for the circuit to come back up :) [21:58:29] *** internat1 has joined #postfix [21:58:31] <Dominian> heh [21:58:53] <dragonbyte> last time I dealt with a major ISP (SBC) I was told "you need to call Linux for support, not us" [21:59:05] <higuita> if you send a email asking then for the rdns, sending already the rdns list you want and explaining that you need to send emails and that rdns is required [21:59:11] *** Internat has quit IRC [21:59:15] <higuita> they will probably listen [21:59:37] *** j_s has quit IRC [22:00:01] <dragonbyte> higuita: oh they always listen. They don't always (care|understand|say yes) :) [22:00:33] <higuita> lol [22:00:34] <higuita> true [22:01:07] <dragonbyte> does the hostname need to match? [22:01:27] *** Nockian has joined #postfix [22:01:33] <higuita> the helo name must match [22:01:55] <higuita> the real hostname, doesnt really matter [22:02:09] *** randra has quit IRC [22:02:10] <higuita> but almost always , the helo name and the hostname is the same [22:03:11] <Bagualas> queue file size limit exceeded, cant find what is the parameter on conf, help? 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[22:21:56] <higuita> of course :) [22:22:39] *** tomocha6 has joined #postfix [22:26:35] <dragonbyte> higuita: 2795 is a good one too [22:26:39] *** Fallenou has quit IRC [22:28:18] <higuita> ok, that one i didnt knew.. lets read it!! :D [22:30:48] *** loompek has joined #postfix [22:32:20] <higuita> transcripts are considered Neoclassical because (a) they are [22:32:21] <higuita> transferred in electronic media instead of the original paper medium, [22:32:23] <higuita> and (b) the word "classical" does not begin with the letter N. [22:32:25] <higuita> LOL [22:32:30] <higuita> at leas they are honest!! [22:34:04] <higuita> The rest of [22:34:05] <higuita> this document assumes that senior management has already stopped [22:34:07] <higuita> reading. [22:34:09] <higuita> ROTFL!! [22:34:16] <devdas> hehe [22:34:43] <devdas> dragonbyte: avian carrier does not imply a carbon based life form [22:34:59] <devdas> Never understimate the bandwidth of a Boeing 747 full of magnetic tape [22:35:38] *** daemoen has joined #postfix [22:35:45] <daemoen> hey guys back now [22:36:08] <daemoen> any way of setting a domain wide masquerade for all outgoing email to go through donotreply at domain dot com [22:37:03] <devdas> smtp_generic_maps [22:37:37] <higuita> devdas: yep, the world record of for data transfer was for sometime to a train in australia loaded with backup tapes... 30 min travel, many TB transfered :) [22:37:49] <dragonbyte> devdas: avian means carbon based life form type bird [22:38:04] <higuita> A SIMIAN must respond to a WAKEUP request with ACCEPT, REFUSE, [22:38:06] <higuita> GONE, NORESPONSE, or DEAD. [22:38:19] <higuita> i like the dead response!! [22:38:38] *** radius has joined #postfix [22:38:42] <devdas> dragonbyte: Extended Avian :P [22:38:47] <dragonbyte> devdas: I also imagine you will have a hard time wrapping a small scroll of paper around a leg of a 747 [22:39:00] <higuita> SanDiego> WAKEUP [22:39:02] <higuita> BoBoSIM> NORESPONSE [22:39:04] <higuita> SanDiego> HEARTBEAT [22:39:06] *** radius is now known as Guest88306 [22:39:06] <higuita> BoBoSIM> DEAD [22:39:07] <devdas> dragonbyte: that's why it's digital paper :P [22:39:08] <higuita> lol [22:39:13] <higuita> sorry the spam, but i'm having fun :D [22:39:17] <dragonbyte> RFC 2549 deals with IP over Avian Carrier with Quality of Service [22:40:02] <dragonbyte> the Apr 1 RFCs are the best [22:40:10] <dragonbyte> wikipedia has a whole list of all of them [22:40:28] <dragonbyte> HTCPCP/1.0 is a good one [22:40:33] <dragonbyte> Hyper Text Coffee Pot control Protocol [22:41:30] <dragonbyte> 418 I'm a teapot: The HTCPCP server is a teapot. The responding entity MAY be short and stout. [22:42:15] <devdas> TCP over HTTP [22:45:56] *** GoGi has joined #postfix [22:48:07] *** eye69 has quit IRC [22:48:42] *** wedge has joined #postfix [22:49:05] *** eye69 has joined #postfix [22:49:36] <daemoen> when using generic map, should i see the masquerade in the mail log? [22:51:35] *** devdas has left #postfix [23:00:44] *** carl- has quit IRC [23:05:27] *** GoGi has quit IRC [23:06:13] *** skyegg has quit IRC [23:06:41] *** Haris_ has joined #postfix [23:12:29] *** havvg has quit IRC [23:19:39] *** ramy has joined #postfix [23:21:31] *** wedge has quit IRC [23:25:18] *** Haris has quit IRC [23:29:37] *** dragonbyte has quit IRC [23:39:47] *** jimi_ has joined #postfix [23:40:07] <jimi_> All of a sudden, my IP # is blacklisted and I am getting messages in /var/log/maillog about it. Why would I get blacklisted all of a sudden? [23:41:09] <shasta> ask those who blacklisted you [23:41:17] <jimi_> http://postmaster.yahoo.com/550-bl23.html is one of the urls, some of them are from spamhaus.org [23:49:21] *** Bagualas has quit IRC [23:53:14] *** DanGer has joined #postfix [23:53:19] <seekwill> Looks like you know who to ask :) [23:53:28] <DanGer> hello, could you please explain me what causes: "Sep 4 23:49:32 services postfix/smtpd[13478]: warning: 213.215.96.171: hostname fedex.sk verification failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known [23:53:45] *** pickcoder has quit IRC [23:54:14] <seekwill> DanGer: What does "dig fedex.sk" and "dig fedex.sk mx" say? [23:56:02] <DanGer> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: [23:56:03] <DanGer> fedex.sk. 3210 IN SOA aladin.micronet.sk. fedex.aladin.micronet.sk. 2007090302 3600 900 3600000 3600 [23:56:14] <DanGer> ;; ANSWER SECTION: [23:56:15] <DanGer> fedex.sk. 37097 IN MX 10 mail.fedex.sk. [23:56:15] <DanGer> fedex.sk. 37097 IN MX 20 mail.micronet.sk. 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